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rangi |
melia: about? |
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melia |
yes |
| 00:08 |
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melia |
hi rangi |
| 00:08 |
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rangi |
for 4530 did you do git bz? |
| 00:08 |
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melia |
yes |
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melia |
bg did it with me |
| 00:08 |
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rangi |
and then you tried a git am -iu3 eh? |
| 00:08 |
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melia |
no |
| 00:09 |
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rangi |
ahh git bz will not try to do a merge |
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| 00:09 |
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rangi |
it will just bail out |
| 00:09 |
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rangi |
lemme try it and see if a merge works |
| 00:09 |
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rangi |
if so ill get you to try again :) |
| 00:09 |
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melia |
ok |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
git bz is nice so it does this |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
Patch left in /tmp/patch-wm2dFB.patch |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
and then I can go |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
rorohiko:[git/4530|am-]:~/git/catalyst-koha% git am --abort |
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rangi |
rorohiko:[git/4530-]:~/git/catalyst-koha% git am -iu3 /tmp/patch-wm2dFB.patch |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
which tries a merge and tells me |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in C4/Members.pm |
| 00:11 |
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melia |
so still doesn't work? |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
but now we know why |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
ill update the bug |
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melia |
thank you :) |
| 00:12 |
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rangi |
often that will work though, so its worth trying |
| 00:12 |
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melia |
ok. I'll add it to my instructions. if git bz apply doesn't work, then try git am -iu3 |
| 00:12 |
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rangi |
sweet :) |
| 00:12 |
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rangi |
yeah even if it doesnt, it gives nicer info about why not |
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melia |
ok. thanks! |
| 00:13 |
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rangi |
no worries |
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bag |
rangi++ #thanks for the extra help :) |
| 00:26 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7326] longoverdue.pl hardcoded to 1 year max <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7326> |
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| 00:38 |
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smita |
Hello from Fiji where I am setting up koha in the first public library. I am stuck , can\t change the quantity in aquistion, it is coming up with error. Please help |
| 00:39 |
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eythian |
smita: what's the error? |
| 00:39 |
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smita |
It is stuck on 1 and will not allow me to change the quantity |
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rangi |
click on the plus sign up a bit, under the item info |
| 00:39 |
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rangi |
it will make you another item and increase the quantity |
| 00:39 |
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smita |
I will try |
| 00:40 |
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rangi |
you cant ever change the quantity ordered by entering in that box |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #14: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/14/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtj: Bug 6908 - increase DEBUG level for *NOISY* Dates.pm init() messages |
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jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 6893 : Updates suggestions list when adding orders |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Adding Adrien Saurat as 161th committer. |
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jenkins_koha |
* chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 06 Dec 2011 23:44:14 Z |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6908 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , increase DEBUG level for *NOISY* Dates.pm init() messages |
| 00:41 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list |
| 00:43 |
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smita |
I am creating a order for a new item, can't see + sign anywhere |
| 00:45 |
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rangi |
above the quantity |
| 00:48 |
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rangi |
it will be a + or the word Add |
| 00:52 |
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smita |
found the + sign- it does needs to clearer please like everything else in koha, but still it does not allow me to save the order in the empty basket, it says done with error- no error message and the order is not saved |
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Cul |
hello #koha |
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Phlunk3 |
is Smita's issue a bug or simply a problem with user error? Sorry smita I don't have a system to test with at the moment. |
| 01:10 |
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Cul |
everyone's so busy talking about technical stuff, I feel like i'm intruding if I pop in to ask a noob question... |
| 01:11 |
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smita |
well, i am a newbie - it does not come up with an error message just does not save the order into the basket- ans yes, i am totally a noob |
| 01:12 |
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Phlunk3 |
Cul just ask :) people will help if they can |
| 01:13 |
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Cul |
ok, on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu... there's a code line that reads.. sudo dpkg --set-selections<install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 01:13 |
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Cul |
that doesn't seem like a complete command to me.. am I wrong? |
| 01:14 |
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smita |
I have followed through and created the order only as a staff user not as a koha admin, it works correctly from test system |
| 01:14 |
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Cul |
when I run it it brings up dpkg help topics |
| 01:15 |
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Cul |
dpkg: unknown option --set-slections,install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 01:15 |
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eythian |
Cul: it is a correct command, but you're not copy-pasting and so doing it wrong |
| 01:15 |
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eythian |
for example, there's no ',' in the command |
| 01:16 |
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Cul |
doh! der... I didn't shift when I hit the < |
| 01:16 |
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eythian |
:) |
| 01:16 |
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eythian |
it's always worth copy-pasting those commands, it's really easy to make a mistake |
| 01:17 |
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Cul |
so i see |
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| 01:24 |
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Cul |
so running install_misc/ubuntu-pkg-check.sh | grep none |
| 01:24 |
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Cul |
I see libidzebra-d.0-0 = (none) is that a problem? |
| 01:26 |
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| 01:29 |
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eythian |
Hmm. Not sure. |
| 01:29 |
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eythian |
it might be |
| 01:29 |
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eythian |
try installing it to be sure |
| 01:30 |
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eythian |
(I'm not sure if it exists in Ubuntu though) |
| 01:30 |
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Cul |
something like apt-get install libidzebra-d.0-0 ? |
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| 01:33 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 01:34 |
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eythian |
apt-cache search libidzebra may be useful to if that doesn't work |
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| 01:37 |
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smita |
Still struggling to save an order in a basket with no error message except that it will not save. Help please |
| 01:38 |
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Cul |
man, that opened a can of worms.. now instead of one package missing.. i've got 9 |
| 01:39 |
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smita |
I am in Nadi Public Library for this week implementing Koha at the first public library in the country |
| 01:40 |
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Cul |
sounds awesome smita |
| 01:43 |
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smita |
yes it is , at cost of being here in the middle of summer, just terrible sweltering heat. Now about my aquisition qs pls. Has halted my acq training pls. |
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| 01:45 |
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eythian |
smita: what version, what happens, what unusal things appear, what else can you tell us? |
| 01:45 |
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smita |
3.06 |
| 01:47 |
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indradg |
rangi, ping |
| 01:47 |
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smita |
just create a new vendor, added a new basket, try adding a order , add all details press the save button, it will not save the order in the basket, does not give any error msg |
| 01:48 |
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smita |
says done with errors and does not save the order to the basket. I am logging as staff with all privileges and not as koha admin |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
indradg: rangi isn't here |
| 01:53 |
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indradg |
eythian, ok... i'm stuck with a zebra error |
| 01:53 |
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eythian |
smita: not really sure I'm afraid. Hopefully someone with acq knowledge will be along soon. |
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| 01:59 |
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Cul |
mysqladmin -uroot -p create kohadata |
| 01:59 |
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Cul |
when this prompts for password is it the password in the koha-conf.xml file? |
| 02:00 |
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eythian |
no, it's the root password of your mysql |
| 02:04 |
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Cul |
GRANT ALL ON kohadata.* TO 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 02:04 |
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Cul |
item inside single quotes are what I decide them to be? or does it have to match something as well |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
that's weird. |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
I don't think it should be root |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
it should be the name of the user in your koha-conf.xml, and the password should match that too |
| 02:06 |
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Cul |
hey, maybe that's why it didn't work the first four times I tried to install :D :D |
| 02:06 |
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Cul |
maybe we're on to something |
| 02:07 |
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* Cul |
so exciting!! |
| 02:07 |
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eythian |
:) |
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Cul |
I thought I had completely bungled my sql and everything |
| 02:08 |
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Cul |
so info from koha-conf.xml in there... is that your final answer eythian? |
| 02:09 |
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eythian |
yeah. you can set them to what you need, so long as they username and password match |
| 02:10 |
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Cul |
crap.. where is that file... /etc/koha.... somethingorother... |
| 02:11 |
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eythian |
depends how you installed |
| 02:11 |
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eythian |
and where you installed to |
| 02:12 |
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Cul |
hehe, I got it.. |
| 02:12 |
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Cul |
i'm starting to feel like less of a dummy than the last 4 times... it's empowering... |
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| 02:13 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:14 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 15 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 02:16 |
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Cul |
GRANT ALL ON kohadata.* TO 'koha'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 02:16 |
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Cul |
so then this one is koha from mysql db and db passwd? |
| 02:16 |
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Cul |
from the install instructions that is.. |
| 02:17 |
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eythian |
yeah, should be right |
| 02:17 |
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Cul |
hmmm, I think I remember the password |
| 02:17 |
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eythian |
it'll be in the file |
| 02:18 |
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Cul |
the same xml file? |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:19 |
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Cul |
I see zebra and biblioserver... or was it the same I just entered for the other? |
| 02:19 |
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eythian |
the database |
| 02:19 |
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wahanui |
i guess the database is gone now :( |
| 02:20 |
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eythian |
it's right down near the bottom |
| 02:20 |
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Cul |
yeah, in the <config> section.. right? |
| 02:21 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:22 |
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Cul |
so if I understand this... the walkthrough here wants me to grant privvys to sql user and root then... otherwise the next command would be identical to the first |
| 02:23 |
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Cul |
if what you said about shouldn't be root.. should be mysql user is the case |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
there's no point granting privs to root |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
it already has them |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
but you do need to grant them to the db user that koha will be using |
| 02:24 |
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Cul |
or should the root localhost be my normal login and computer name |
| 02:25 |
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Cul |
that's what I thought |
| 02:25 |
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eythian |
no |
| 02:25 |
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eythian |
mysql users have nothing to do with computer users |
| 02:26 |
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Cul |
so these two commands are redundant then? |
| 02:26 |
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Cul |
> GRANT ALL ON kohadata.* TO 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 02:26 |
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Cul |
> GRANT ALL ON kohadata.* TO 'koha'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
you need the second one, but the last one is pointless I think |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
err |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
the first one is pointless |
| 02:27 |
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Cul |
because i'm subbing the same data from the <config> section of the xml file |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
so you do it once, with that information in there |
| 02:28 |
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Cul |
ok, just making sure.. I'm really excited about this working this time.... |
| 02:28 |
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* Cul |
5th times a charm |
| 02:29 |
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eythian |
I would have just used the packages ;) |
| 02:32 |
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Cul |
I tried this method first and apparently the 'this password' here part got me.. then I went with the packages and got the same results.. now I'm so close I can smell it ... i think... |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
the packages do the passwords for you |
| 02:34 |
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Cul |
then i might have had remnants of the previous failed install lingering |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
that can happen |
| 02:37 |
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Cul |
oooh, single or standard... I'm at home and don't have a static ip and I'm doing this for work so I won't be able to reliably host without leaving home with my ip every morning. this system isn't portable at all is it? |
| 02:38 |
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eythian |
not really, it's a server application and they tend to like servers. |
| 02:39 |
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eythian |
I'd set up a dyndns service |
| 02:40 |
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Cul |
that aside.. if i'm just testing the app for board approval should I select single and plan on reinstalling to the final hosting server...? |
| 02:41 |
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Cul |
I can transfer the db's right? |
| 02:41 |
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Cul |
and import them on a new install |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
what do you mean by 'single'? |
| 02:42 |
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Cul |
I'm at the install koha portion of the instructions.. it offers std, single and dev for install options |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
Oh. I dunno, probably standard. It won't matter a whole lot. |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
(/me hasn't done an install like that for a very long time) |
| 02:47 |
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Cul |
what's the approx size of this app with empty databases? |
| 02:48 |
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eythian |
I dunno. 50-100MB or so maybe, much of which is translations. |
| 02:48 |
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Cul |
that's suprisingly small |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
it's a Linux application, they don't tend to be huge. |
| 02:50 |
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Cul |
that's what I'm learning.. I spent about a month trying to get NewGenLib working on a windows machine and finally made the leap to linux.. I'm very happy so far |
| 02:51 |
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eythian |
awesome :) |
| 02:51 |
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Cul |
ok, it said make sure you run make install as root.. sudo is appropriate, yes? |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #15: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/15/ |
| 02:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Fix for Bug 5974 - Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role |
| 02:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5974 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role |
| 02:56 |
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Cul |
so really, how many of the names on here are bot? |
| 02:58 |
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Cul |
hmmm... everything was going so well: |
| 02:58 |
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Cul |
waiting ..apache2: Syntax error on line 236 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 5 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mylibrary: Could not open configuration file /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf: No such file or directory |
| 02:58 |
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Cul |
[fail] |
| 02:59 |
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Cul |
is that a bad apache install? |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
well, it's a bad apache configuration |
| 03:00 |
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eythian |
hmm |
| 03:00 |
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eythian |
that's a leftover from the packages |
| 03:00 |
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eythian |
if you've removed the packages, you should remove /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mylibrary |
| 03:03 |
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Cul |
so since I didn't, I probably can't just take it out now and have everything be fine can I? |
| 03:03 |
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eythian |
you didn't which? |
| 03:04 |
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Cul |
remove sites-enabled/mylibrary when i remove previous pkgs |
| 03:04 |
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eythian |
it won't happen automatically. Do it now and restart apache, and it'll be happier with it. |
| 03:04 |
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Cul |
<--- didn't |
| 03:04 |
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Cul |
ok |
| 03:06 |
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Cul |
can you help me out with the proper command? |
| 03:06 |
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eythian |
which proper command? |
| 03:06 |
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Cul |
to delet mylibrary |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
sudo rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mylibrary |
| 03:08 |
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Cul |
very nice, thank you |
| 03:09 |
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Cul |
remember.. I come from window.. you don't need to know the command line to press the delete key :) |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
yeah, you can do that in Linux too, but you can't copy and paste a gui command. |
| 03:12 |
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* Cul |
drumroll |
| 03:12 |
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Cul |
the moment of truth |
| 03:12 |
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Cul |
dang |
| 03:13 |
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Cul |
something's still up with the passwords I think... |
| 03:13 |
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Cul |
Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 693. |
| 03:16 |
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Cul |
well, thank you so much for all your help.. I'm gonna call it a night and try and figure this out tomorrow. I'm sure that it's all somewhere between mysql and koha because the install went without a hitch this time.. |
| 03:17 |
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Cul |
take care of yourself and we'll see you later. |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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AmitG |
heya bag |
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bag |
heya AmitG :D |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
:) |
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bag |
heya Brooke |
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bag |
heya cait |
| 04:35 |
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Brooke |
yo |
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Brooke |
what's up on the West Siiiiide? |
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bag |
so cait it's early morning for you right? |
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bag |
hmmm… just thinking about life Brooke |
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bag |
and I've got the big bang theory on in the back ground |
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cait |
hi bg |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
went to bed early, woke up a bit earlier than usual |
| 04:36 |
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cait |
and big bang theory is great :) |
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bag |
like 5:30am early? |
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Brooke |
big_bang_theory++ |
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bag |
what's up on the east side? |
| 04:38 |
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Brooke |
they mostly roll up the streets here after 10pm |
| 04:38 |
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Brooke |
that is prolly the only thing cool about Mumbai |
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bag |
they are always awake |
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Brooke |
yep |
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Brooke |
http://www.thenation.com/artic[…]library?page=full |
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cait |
hm 5:45 now yes |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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Brooke |
I see we get mild mannered Clark Kent in the stead of Super Snail. |
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Brooke |
OÃche mhaith |
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Oak |
Good Morning miss cait :-) |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha :) |
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cait |
morning mr Oak :) |
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Oak |
TenÄ Koe rangi- |
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:) spent two days at my sister's place |
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Oak |
:) no Internet there |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
hard! |
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heya cait, Oak :D |
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Namaskaar #koha |
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alex_a |
morning all |
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Oak |
Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
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Oak |
belle journ�e |
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alex_a |
Oak: bonjour :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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hi alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
niihau, reiveune |
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hi cait :) |
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julian_m |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, julian_m |
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hi wahanui |
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hello, julian_m |
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AmitG |
heya julian_m, wahanui |
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wahanui |
Good luck getting ten words out of this one... |
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asaurat |
hi! |
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hello AmitG |
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hello #koha |
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kf |
hi again #koha |
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Oak |
welcome back kf :) |
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:) |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7328] Expanded options in advanced search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7328> |
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kf |
@later tell paul_p I am worried about the version numbers in updatedatabase - can you check? I think we should be using 3.07... but last update was 3.6.2! |
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huginn` |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
kmkale: Quote #168: "gmcharlt: #koha is ALL the time" (added by chris_n at 09:01 PM, December 01, 2011) |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
kmkale: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 08:50 PM, January 28, 2010) |
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kf |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
kf: Quote #162: "oleonard: I think DRM is inherently incompatible with any lending system which will be friendly to patrons." (added by wizzyrea at 04:03 PM, October 28, 2011) |
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kmkale |
:( even the quotes are not funny today |
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* kf |
nods |
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kf |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
kf: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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kmkale |
:) |
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Oak |
class time |
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Oak |
later |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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kmkale: Quote #157: "wizzyrea: bbiaf -> I know that means be back in a few but my brain told me that meant be back in a fire oleonard: similar to the common ctaof, for Can't talk, am on fire" (added by wizzyrea at 04:38 PM, September 23, 2011) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7329] The "undo import into catalog" command deletes items onloan without checking <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7329> |
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kf |
paul_p: hi paul |
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chris_n |
kf: kohaversion is 3.06.02.001 rather than 3.6.2 |
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kf |
hm? |
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chris_n |
see the comments in kohaversion.pl for the reasoning behind that |
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kf |
oh |
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chris_n |
there is disparity between what we do and what we say in the comments |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
that was not my question |
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chris_n |
or have been doing at least |
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kf |
there is a 3.06.02 in master |
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chris_n |
? |
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chris_n |
where |
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kf |
and I thought it shoudl be 3.7 |
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kf |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0dfc5f8f;hb=HEAD |
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kf |
and that made me worry |
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kf |
because the will collide? |
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kf |
I think |
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chris_n |
well, no need for 3.7 if you use the nominclature 3.6.2.x |
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kf |
now I am very confused |
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kf |
I know my master system is pretending to be 3.6.2 - and that worries me |
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kf |
and I think we used the uneven numbers for database updates on master before |
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kf |
so I was asking about it |
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chris_n |
either way, there will be no collisions since the "development" segment of the ver number is being incremented :) |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
we only have to avoid the same number doing different things then |
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What's up, Squash Squad? |
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@wunder 76101 |
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huginn` |
talljoy: The current temperature in HADS WEST FORK TRINITY RIVER AT FORT TX US, Fort Worth, Texas is -3.9�C (7:15 AM CST on December 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa. |
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oleonard |
Wow, cold! |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 5.0�C (9:00 AM EST on December 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Rising). |
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Texas shouldn't be this cold. it's not right. |
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@wunder 06614 |
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JesseM: The current temperature in Brewer Stratford Marina, Stratford, Connecticut is 13.2�C (9:09 AM EST on December 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). |
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talljoy |
watch out JesseM, this TX weather is headed your way. |
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JesseM |
supposed to snow in CT tomorrow!! |
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JesseM |
can't wait |
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JesseM |
:) |
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oleonard |
I wonder if those who cannot set permissions in the staff client should be able to *view* permissions instead. |
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YesMan |
Wow oleonard that's a great idea! |
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talljoy |
heh |
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BoredDev |
Hey, I think I'll code that for you! |
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oleonard |
Thanks guys, you're great! |
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oleonard |
As a sanity check, can anyone else confirm Bug 7330? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7330 minor, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search |
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jwagner |
oleonard, I see the same thing |
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talljoy |
I don't see it. |
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oleonard |
Hm, so perhaps a quirk of a long-updated database? |
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jwagner |
One search in sysprefs generates 8 similar entries |
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oleonard |
Thanks for checking |
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jwagner |
Use of uninitialized value $text in pattern match (m//) at /home/k32/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 252., referer: http://k32-staff.jw.ptfsinc.co[…]in/preferences.pl |
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oleonard |
Hi sekjal, I have a question about your comments on Bug 7259 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages |
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sekjal |
hey, oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
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oleonard |
Is there a preferred way of setting a default value for a subroutine? |
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* oleonard |
knows the PHP way but not the Perl way |
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sekjal |
lots of different ways to do it, not sure if any is better than another |
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* oleonard |
didn't know if there was a shortcut, or if it just means checking for an empty value |
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sekjal |
you may be able to do ($status) = @_ || (1); |
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oleonard |
That seems to set 1 no matter what |
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sekjal |
boo |
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sekjal |
alternative: write the documentation on the subroutine, and explicitly define the status input param |
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sekjal |
as required |
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oleonard |
my ($param) = @_; |
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oleonard |
my $status = ($param ? $param : 1); |
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kf1 |
qa_team++ |
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kf1 |
marcelr++ sekjal++ :) |
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oleonard |
No, that won't let you pass 0 |
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sekjal |
checked defined $param instead? |
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oleonard |
sekjal++ |
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oleonard |
And of course you're right that documentation would be good too |
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sekjal |
that whole module isn't really documented much at all... |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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* Oak |
goes to annoy someone |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6971' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b97eba3cb76b3242> / Test suite: ignoring backups from vi (files ending with a ~) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6eb3032ec72d9ae2> / history.txt, adding Stéphane Delaune, as 117, moving others and welcome Albert, you... <http:// |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7259] Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7259> |
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sekjal |
oleonard++ |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: (unshift @_) || 'default'? |
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* oleonard |
doesn't actually know what unshift @_ does |
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kf1 |
hm |
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kf1 |
deletes first or last entry I think |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I *think* it pulls the left-most item from an array. |
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kf1 |
http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/unshift.html |
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jcamins |
It is completely possible that I actually meant pop @_. |
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oleonard |
I've see unshift used in that context jcamins |
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jcamins |
Or that I made it up entirely. |
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kf1 |
adds one actually it seems |
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jcamins |
Whoops, in that case I meant shift. |
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kf1 |
Shifts the first value of the array off and returns it, |
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kf1 |
shift |
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kf1 |
http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/shift.html |
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wonders if there are multiple kf's now :-) |
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jcamins |
kf1 is the official explicator of Perl syntax. |
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kf1 |
hm? |
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jcamins |
kf1? |
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wahanui |
i guess kf1 is the official explicator of Perl syntax. |
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kf1 |
lol |
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kf |
no idea :) |
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chris_n |
unshift and shift work off of the to of the array |
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jcamins |
Boy. SLA really wants me to renew. |
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chris_n |
pop/push work off of the bottom |
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chris_n |
s/to/top/ |
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chris_n |
or perhaps we should say "list context" since "array" seems to be out of vogue in some perl books, etc. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: bah! Context refers to which memory page one is on, not syntactic sugar. :P |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eeaed6e4554b38565> / t/UploadedFile, updated comment <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]026453cecebe08c71> / Bug 5327: Fixing the Members.t test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a74b4698e88781381 |
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kf |
chris_n: multiple kf's would be scary :) |
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jcamins |
Scary *awesome*! |
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* chris_n |
was thinking we might get more good work done with multiples of kf :) |
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oleonard |
^^ |
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kf |
oh |
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* chris_n |
goes back to scaring bugs out of his auto-cherry-pick script |
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kf |
good plan! |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7330] System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7330> |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #556: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/556/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* ago: Bug 6971: XSLT Opac Detail displays 245 subfields out of order. |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 6971: XSLT Intranet Detail displays 245 subfields out of order |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: history.txt, adding Stéphane Delaune, as 117, moving others and welcome Albert, you're 163th ! |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Test suite: ignoring backups from vi (files ending with a ~) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6971 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , XSLT Opac Detail displays 245 subfields out of order |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 557 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 19 j ago) |
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jcamins |
Am I now going to get complaints from Jenkins because of that patch? |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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kf |
jcamins: did you break tests? |
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wizzyrea |
good morning |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea |
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kf |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
hello! |
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wizzyrea |
and how goes the bug squashing |
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jcamins |
kf: no, I didn't. |
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jcamins |
kf: but whenever I get a patch in, jenkins whines at me, doesn't he? |
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kf |
no :) |
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kf |
only when tests are broken |
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kf |
at the time |
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kf |
your patch gets in |
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kf |
and only for 3.6 right now |
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jcamins |
kf: but didn't rangi say he was enabling it on Master? |
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jcamins |
I'm sure Master's broken. |
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* wizzyrea |
is ok getting whines |
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wizzyrea |
it's motivating. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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kf |
jcamins: not sure he already did |
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kf |
ask him :) |
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oleonard |
What the heck is bug 2714 about? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2714 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bib response service should provide URL recipe |
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jcamins |
Bib response services and URL recipes. |
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oleonard |
:P |
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jcamins |
Do I have to spread it out for you in a nutshell? ;) |
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* jcamins |
thinks it could probably be closed. |
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* oleonard |
is sure the submitter is going to get right on it any time now |
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gmcharlt |
*snort* |
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jcamins |
oleonard: you betcha. |
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* jcamins |
tries to think of the term that describes the overly ornate typefaces of the late nineteenth century. |
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chris_n |
heya gmcharlt |
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wahanui |
it has been said that gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: correctly said, at that. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
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jcamins |
Teachable moment! "Don't customize your templates." |
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wizzyrea |
batch receiving transfers - possible? |
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matts is now known as matts_away |
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wizzyrea |
(I didn't think so but... koha's a moving target ;)) |
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* chris_n |
thinks "template" is a bit of a misnomer in this context |
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chris_n |
people seem to confuse "template" with "skin" |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: not to my knowledge, but, maybe? |
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wizzyrea |
lol I see that you have the same doubt that I do |
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wizzyrea |
I'm going to go with "no" |
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wizzyrea |
(but that would be neat) |
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* jcamins |
doesn't generally worry about transfers. Or circ, for that matter. |
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* wizzyrea |
snorts |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't generally worry about cataloging. so there's that. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: your loss. |
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oleonard |
How would batch receiving transfers work wizzyrea ? |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: naw, yours ;) |
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wizzyrea |
like the labels interface? scan a bunch of barcodes and it receives them all to the library? |
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wizzyrea |
but of course there's holds and nonsense. |
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wizzyrea |
that you ahve to deal with one by one |
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oleonard |
And you'd want that because it's faster? |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think I'm going to advocate for adding it. |
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wizzyrea |
Probably because "sirsi did it" |
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wizzyrea |
or <pick your proprietary ILS> |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't really care so much about it - batch operations often lead to batch error making. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: but think of the time it saves! |
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wizzyrea |
whee! |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: if I'm going to make 50 errors, I'd rather do it all at once. :P |
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wizzyrea |
I"m able to screw things up at lightning speed! |
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* oleonard |
is still wary of the batch edit tool for no particular reason |
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wizzyrea |
I'm actually quite fond of the batch item edit tool |
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wizzyrea |
it's quite good. |
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wizzyrea |
and batch delete. |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: well... batch operations like "batch of cookies" seem to go smoothly most of the time ;-) |
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* wizzyrea |
remembers the time she made the curry cookies - and used curry powder that contained garlic |
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jcamins |
chris_n: you mean someone eats all the dough before the oven has finished preheating? |
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wizzyrea |
it was an experience! |
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chris_n |
HA |
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* jcamins |
has started adding garlic powder to the dough for his calzones. |
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wizzyrea |
surprisingly enough, it wasn't awful. |
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chris_n |
probably better for your heart at any rate |
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jcamins |
It was a brilliant innovation. |
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wizzyrea |
just, a bit odd to have a lovely oatmeal cookie with a hint of garlic |
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wizzyrea |
ooo garlic in pizza dough is good stuff. |
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* jcamins |
needs to roast some garlic. |
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jcamins |
It's finally cool enough to have the oven on for a few hours. |
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chris_n |
well, lest see if Jenkins is happier today |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 16 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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chris_n |
garlic+olive oil+hot skillet = good eating |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7093] Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7093> |
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Oak |
kf, time to go home. no? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #557: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/557/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Revert "Fix for Bug 6291, Cart printing truncated in Firefox" |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 6291 - Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
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jenkins_koha |
* maxime.pelletier: fix test xml records |
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jenkins_koha |
* chrish: Bug 5327: Unit tests for C4/Exteral/BakerTaylor.pm |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Adding more unit tests |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Complete coverage for BackgroundJob.pm |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Fixing unit test for SQLHelper.pm |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Fixing the Members.t test |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: t/UploadedFile, updated comment |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 65 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 1 mo. 29 j ago) |
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kf |
Oak: you are right |
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kf |
or I am stuck here for the meeting |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
ugh, meetings |
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Oak |
where minutes are kept, and hours lost |
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paul_p |
i must come back home now. see you in 1 hours ! |
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Oak |
it's some quote... :) |
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Oak |
see ya paul_p |
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kf |
bye paul_p |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5604' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fecf5c6efda38a532> / Bug 5604 : Follow up for missing image <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2573879a61d9f1ed7> / Jenkins complaining = fixing number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=e06f3ee0 |
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rafa_saad |
Hi all... Please, somebody can tell me if its possible to fill 082 field (Marc21) with data that cames from authorities? |
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rafa_saad |
I would like to fill 100a with author name and automatic fill 082 with classification data |
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jcamins |
rafa_saad: not using Koha. |
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rafa_saad |
lol |
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jcamins |
rafa_saad: you could conceivably write a script to do it, though I'm not clear how you could get DDC numbers out of author authority records. |
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rafa_saad |
I'm thinking on in |
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rafa_saad |
'cause if koha can fill 100d, 100e, etc, with data that cames from authorities, why it cannot fill other fields? |
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jcamins |
rafa_saad: because there isn't any other data that should logically come from authority records, I'd think. |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5543] Date ISO format wrong separator <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5543> |
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Oak |
me go now. night. |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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Brooke |
hey nate |
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NateC |
Hi! |
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* jcamins |
begins keening, as, he is sure, hundreds of other catalogers are doing throughought North America. |
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jcamins |
OCLC just went kaflooey. |
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Brooke |
Clearly royt ran out of liquor. |
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Brooke |
Let this be a lesson: keep the treehouse stocked! |
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Brooke |
might I suggest the Caoineadh Airt UÃ Laoghaire? |
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* jcamins |
manages to connect. |
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cait |
back :) |
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Brooke |
wb |
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trea |
i'm running a longoverdue.pl and it's output is listed as "TEST MODE - NO ACTION TAKEN" - do i have to run it with a --confirm flag in order to make it actually apply those values? |
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jcamins |
trea: I believe so. |
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sekjal |
trea: yes, --confirm flag is required to do that script "for reals" |
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cait |
trea: sounds right |
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thd-away` is now known as thd |
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cait |
hi thd :) |
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thd |
hello cait |
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chris_n |
and here comes 3.4.7 |
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thd |
hurray |
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* wizzyrea |
watches 3.4.7 slide into the world |
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jcamins |
BTW, was anyone else confused by the suggestion that Koha needs LTS releases every six months? |
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jcamins |
Wouldn't that be the same as -STABLE? |
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jcamins |
(i.e., no feature changes, just bug fixes?) |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: sorta like ringing in the new year? |
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jcamins |
chris_n: only better. |
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wizzyrea |
I was really more imagining birth but ringing in the new year is less messy. |
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jransom |
morena |
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Brooke |
morena |
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wizzyrea |
mornin jo |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard++ kf++ i like all that you've done in acquisitions. |
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cait |
wizzyrea: still needs a lot of love - thx for testing :) |
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wizzyrea |
well it's feeling a bit more cared for these days :) |
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wizzyrea |
someone get the duct tape for jo |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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jransom |
hello |
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wahanui |
hey, jransom |
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jransom |
yay |
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jransom |
phew |
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trea |
the --charge param in longover.pl need the lost value yes? so if your authval for lost is 2, it should be --charge=2? |
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trea |
hi jransom |
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trea |
longoverdue.pl rather |
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cait |
trea: sorry, never used that script :( |
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jwagner |
trea, I think that is correct |
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* Brooke |
jiggles the cable for pasifika |
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slef |
hi all |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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trea |
k thx |
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thd |
Brooke: does jiggling cables help? :) |
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Brooke |
if Irma and Jo don't disapparate, then yes. |
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jransom |
learn me for trying to ge in here from home - downside of living at the beach (crap connectivity) |
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Irma |
hi all |
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Brooke |
#startmeeting |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed Dec 7 18:00:09 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
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Brooke |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions |
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Brooke |
Welcome, welcome, please introduce yourself using #info |
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wizzyrea |
#info wizzyrea - Liz Rea - NEKLS |
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jcamins |
#info jcamins - Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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jwagner |
#info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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drojf |
#info mirko tietgen, humboldt-universität zu berlin, germany |
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Irma |
#info Irma Birchall, CALYX |
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mtj2 |
#info mason.james, nz |
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chris_n |
#info Chris Nighswonger, FBC |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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indradg |
#info Indranil Das Gupta, Kolkata, India |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop, Norfolk, England |
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jransom |
joann ransom hlt NZ |
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dpavlin |
#info Dobrica Pavlinusic, FFZG, Zagreb, Croatia |
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marijana |
#info Marijana Glavica, Croatia |
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* slef |
hands jransom an #info |
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joannR |
(can't find hash key yet on my transgformer keyboard - so yeah, thanks0 |
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trea |
#info Thatcher Rea, ByWater Solutions, USA |
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slef |
joannR: copy-paste one? |
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slef |
(what's a transgformer?) |
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Brooke |
Haere Mai let's get this show on the road |
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sekjal |
#info Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions, Koha 3.8 QAM |
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jransom |
asus android epad touchscreen thingee |
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wizzyrea |
(fab tab) |
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slef |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_7_December_2011 |
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Brooke |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements |
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slef |
jransom: nice. |
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* chris_n |
grumbles about FF crashing |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater Solutions |
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Brooke |
anyone have any earth shattering announcements? |
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chris_n |
3.4.7 is released |
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Brooke |
hooray |
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chris_n |
and in the wild |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap to 3.4 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4 |
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cait |
chris_n++ |
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Brooke |
chris_n++ indeed |
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chris_n |
#info 3.4.7 is released |
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chris_n |
the plan is to continue releases until applicable patches/commits slow to a trickle |
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Brooke |
anything else vaguely 3.4 related? |
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chris_n |
that's all from me |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 26 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/16/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* ago: Bug 6971: XSLT Opac Detail displays 245 subfields out of order. |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 6971: XSLT Intranet Detail displays 245 subfields out of order |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 6291 - Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Test suite: ignoring backups from vi (files ending with a ~) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6971 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , XSLT Opac Detail displays 245 subfields out of order |
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jenkins_koha |
* maxime.pelletier: fix test xml records |
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druthb1 |
#info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions (sorry for the late hit) |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: history.txt, adding Stéphane Delaune, as 117, moving others and welcome Albert, you're 163th ! |
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jenkins_koha |
* chrish: Bug 5327: Unit tests for C4/Exteral/BakerTaylor.pm |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Adding more unit tests |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Complete coverage for BackgroundJob.pm |
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Brooke |
awesome, if you do that for us, I don't think we'll complain. thanks a heap for the effort. :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Fixing unit test for SQLHelper.pm |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Fixing the Members.t test |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: 160th developer + 2 events added (NZ tm and 3.6.1 released) |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: t/UploadedFile, updated comment |
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jenkins_koha |
* chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 07 Dec 2011 16:41:07 Z |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 558 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 19 j ago) |
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sekjal |
thanks, jenkins_koha. quite timely |
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slef |
jenkins_koha: mute |
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jenkins_koha |
slef did you mean me? Unknown command 'mute' |
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jenkins_koha |
Use '!jenkins help' to get help! |
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cait |
heh |
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slef |
jenkins_koha: shut up |
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jenkins_koha |
slef did you mean me? Unknown command 'shut' |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap to 3.6 |
| 18:11 |
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jenkins_koha |
Use '!jenkins help' to get help! |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6 |
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chris_n |
it appears jenkins wanted to say a few things 3.6 related :) |
| 18:11 |
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paul_p |
#info Paul Poulain, BibLibre, RM for 3.8 |
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paul_p |
sorry to be a little bit late ! |
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Brooke |
no problem |
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chris_n |
3.6 is on target |
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* Brooke |
was deathly afraid of getting caught in a motorcade. |
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chris_n |
3.6.2 will release on 22 Dec |
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paul_p |
chris_n, pushed 1 hour ago 2 more patches that should please jenkins |
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paul_p |
build 558 should confirm that. |
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chris_n |
I have a script which is doing pretty much automated release notes each time I push to 3.6.x |
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wizzyrea |
^^ awesome |
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Brooke |
he's cunning |
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chris_n |
so that should keep all of you folks in the know about what's to be in the next release |
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cait |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n++ |
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mtj2 |
yep, chris' script is just awesome |
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jcamins |
chris_n++ |
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chris_n |
paul_p: looks like we're still unstable :( |
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dpavlin |
chris_n++ |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
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paul_p |
chris_n, I know, but there should be only 4 problems now. And only 2 in fact, as that's problems declared twice |
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chris_n |
and that's it for 3.6 |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap for 3.8 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap for 3.8 |
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Brooke |
take it away Paul |
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paul_p |
chris_n, could you explain again your strategy to decide what should be in 3.6 and what will stay for 3.8 |
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paul_p |
(before going to 3.8) |
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paul_p |
I think it's clear for me, but maybe not for everybody |
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chris_n |
new features go in 3.8 |
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chris_n |
all else goes in 3.6 |
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chris_n |
a feature is something currently non-existent in 3.6 |
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sekjal |
chris_n: would it be fair to say that anything that changes a workflow would be a considered a feature? |
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chris_n |
the only real exception is things which are clearly too big to safely move back |
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paul_p |
for everybody = it means that an improvement to an existing feature, even if it's ENH, will be applied to 3.6 |
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chris_n |
sekjal: I would define that more as "significantly" changes workflow |
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chris_n |
I think very minor changes are probably acceptable |
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paul_p |
and I agree with that |
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chris_n |
but some of this is open to discussion |
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sekjal |
but, say, the changes to handling Lost items as laid out in bug 5533 would NOT be backported |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places |
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chris_n |
I think fine-days is the issue here |
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chris_n |
its critical as marked |
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chris_n |
not enh |
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paul_p |
chris_n, (one of ) the issue is that it's a bug, not an ENH |
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thd |
chris_n: Does that mean that complete code rewrites which do not introduce new features will be allowed in 3.6? |
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paul_p |
even if fixing the problem means changing (a little bit) the workflow |
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chris_n |
thd: for example? |
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cait |
paul_p: the problem I see is the change for the debar handling |
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cait |
with dates and notes |
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chris_n |
thd: in reality they would not |
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cait |
a short warning to libraries updating might be good at least |
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cait |
in the release notes |
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thd |
chris_n: sorry, my question was meant with more humour than seriousness :) |
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paul_p |
cait, right. and that's what we were/are supposed to do. |
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chris_n |
:) |
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paul_p |
chris_n, was it in 3.6.1 ? (I think no) |
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Brooke |
thd Koha is srs buisnass ;) |
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chris_n |
paul_p: it? |
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magnuse |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
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paul_p |
chris_n, finedays |
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chris_n |
it does not apply cleanly atm |
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mib_9y99lh |
Question - I have the system set up to send emails to patrons about everything, yet it never sends emails, the status is always "pending". Could there possibly be something I haven't clicked? I feel like I've checked every box known to man. |
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sekjal |
a good plumbing-level-only change could be done without changing any outward appearance |
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paul_p |
chris_n, on 3.6 ? really ? |
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sekjal |
the followup for bug 5211 is a small example thereof |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5211 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking lost (long overdue) not charging fines |
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chris_n |
paul_p: I'll look |
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oleonard |
Sorry mib_9y99lh, we are having a meeting at the moment |
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jcamins |
mib_9y99lh: there is a meeting going on right now, so you may have more luck in an hour. |
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jwagner |
mib_9y99lh, there is a meeting going on -- check to make sure the process_message_queue.pl cron job is running |
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chris_n |
paul_p: whats the bug number? |
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mib_9y99lh |
I didn't realize this was not the place to ask questions. My bad. |
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Brooke |
it is just not right now ;) |
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paul_p |
chris_n, 632_ |
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jcamins |
mib_9y99lh: no, it is. You just came at a bad time. |
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jwagner |
It's the place, just not the time |
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paul_p |
chris_n, 6328 |
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cait |
it is the place, but once a month there is a meeting |
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Brooke |
if ye send it to the listserv, someone will pick it up most likely |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
ok |
| 18:23 |
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chris_n |
paul_p: its not in 3.6.x atm, and would not apply cleanly |
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cait |
fines in days? |
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wahanui |
i guess fines in days is debatable imho |
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chris_n |
seems so wahanui |
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Brooke |
rather than discuss every little bug |
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Brooke |
how bout we say that if there's a question, Paul and Chris will have a cage match |
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paul_p |
Brooke, you're right. but chris_n, please let me know if 6328 does not apply, because it's a BLO for us ! |
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chris_n |
is there a large amount of concern about introducing fine-days fixes into 3.6? |
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chris_n |
paul_p: it does not |
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chris_n |
or would not for me this morning |
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chris_n |
I have to had time to update the bug |
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paul_p |
chris_n, for all french libraries, and most Spanish / italian libraries it is ! |
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paul_p |
as, 99% of french libraries use fines in days |
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paul_p |
well... 60%. 39% doing no fines at all, and 1% fines in € |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
perhaps we could get a second sign-off? for 3.6 and a documentation? |
| 18:25 |
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chris_n |
if there is a fair amount of concern about introducing fine-days fixes into 3.6.x, please let me know |
| 18:25 |
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paul_p |
tajoli, hello ! could you confirm to chris_n that fines in days is something important for you too ! |
| 18:26 |
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paul_p |
(we're just discussing of this) |
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tajoli |
yes, I confirm |
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slef |
I think it probably should be fixed in 3.6.x if not too disruptive |
| 18:26 |
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tajoli |
in Italy ALL library in practies use fine in days |
| 18:26 |
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chris_n |
sekjal: is this related to your earlier question of workflow? |
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jcamins |
tajoli: don't forget to introduce yourself with #info |
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tajoli |
No one use money |
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sekjal |
chris_n: yes. this doesn't just change how fine in days works |
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sekjal |
it changes how debarred works in general |
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tajoli |
#info Zeno Tajoli, CILEA (Italy) |
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jransom |
we use finesin nz |
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sekjal |
I think it's a great improvement, but I can see a library getting upset because something like this changes on them in the middle of a stable release |
| 18:28 |
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paul_p |
sekjal, if it's clearly announced in the release notes, I think it's not a so big change. |
| 18:28 |
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slef |
jransom: by charging them money or by banning a borrower for N days? |
| 18:28 |
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chris_n |
I'd like to hear from others on this |
| 18:28 |
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jransom |
charging money |
| 18:28 |
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chris_n |
before making a decision |
| 18:28 |
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paul_p |
fair. Do we drop a mail on koha ML ? |
| 18:28 |
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Brooke |
yes |
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thd |
Fixing a bug in a completely broken feature which is a use blocker might need some way of getting into stable. |
| 18:29 |
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Brooke |
this is way too granular for the meeting |
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Brooke |
so |
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paul_p |
chris_n, you do, or I do ? (the mail) |
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cait |
thd: the problem is, it never worked since 3.2 |
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Brooke |
paul roadmap to 3.8 svp |
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jcamins |
moving_on++ |
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cait |
and it changes the API and the interface |
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chris_n |
paul_p: go ahead |
| 18:29 |
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paul_p |
OK, will do. |
| 18:29 |
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cait |
that's why there is some concern |
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paul_p |
OK, 3.8 now |
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chris_n |
#info bug 6328 is on hold for 3.6.x pending list responses |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6328 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Fine in days does not work |
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slef |
paul_p: can you include an outline of the API change in the mail please? |
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thd |
The feature even if long broken is not new and is certainly necessary. |
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paul_p |
1st a question: do ppl think a monthly mail from me is a good thing ? |
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Brooke |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
yep : |
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chris_n |
yes |
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tajoli |
For me yes |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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thd |
How do libraries cope without the feature? |
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Irma |
me too yes |
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drojf |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
thd: take it to the list |
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jcamins |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 for monthly mails |
| 18:31 |
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slef |
0 |
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paul_p |
OK, so I'll continue this way. |
| 18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
please |
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magnuse |
paul_p: yes |
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marijana |
+1 |
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davidnind |
yes |
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dpavlin |
yes |
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thd |
+1 for more mail |
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paul_p |
if you think there's something I should speak of in everymail, don't hesitate to tell me |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.4.x build #65: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 27 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/65/ |
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jenkins_koha |
chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.07.000 07 Dec 2011 16:48:02 Z |
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paul_p |
very fresh news: there are a lot of things made on the performance side. |
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paul_p |
* i've pushed some patches |
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wizzyrea |
argle. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 66 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 2 mo. 0 j ago) |
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paul_p |
* the "de-nesting C4 package" should also be tested |
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paul_p |
* BibLibre has a patch that should hit bugzilla soon that improve by 1 second every search ! |
| 18:32 |
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magnuse |
improving_performance++ |
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wizzyrea |
improving_performance++ |
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paul_p |
* Ian submitted a patch to play with yaml file for config. I'll test it tomorrow I think |
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paul_p |
* i've started a page with benchmarking on the wiki |
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paul_p |
that's probably the main thing i'll focus on in december ! |
| 18:33 |
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Brooke |
#info paul's pushed a bunch of patches |
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paul_p |
I plan to focus on one thing each month. |
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tcohen |
is anyone working on Bug 6802 |
| 18:33 |
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tcohen |
¡ |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6802 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , with IndependantBranches on can still edit items |
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tcohen |
? |
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paul_p |
this month, speed |
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sekjal |
tcohen: several ByWater partners have expressed concern over it, but we don't have a finalized plan of attack het |
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sekjal |
s/het/yet/ |
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paul_p |
I almost forget: bywater & catalyst are working on Plack/mod_perl |
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bag |
yes |
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paul_p |
sekjal, i'll drop you a mail tomorrow about that, I want to participate ;-) |
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sekjal |
paul_p: most excellent |
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bag |
hey paul_p please cc me |
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paul_p |
bag ? (who are you ?) -sorry, I missed the beginning) |
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tcohen |
let us know, we're concerned about that as it is holding a university fromr migrating |
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bag |
bag = brendan :) |
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bag |
bag = brendan arthur gallagher |
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mtj2 |
bg? |
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wahanui |
I LOVE BASEBALL AND BREAKFAST BURRITOS |
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bag |
yup that bg :) |
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paul_p |
multiple_nicks-- ;-) |
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slef |
paul_p: do you mean to #info not *? |
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slef |
what bug is yaml-for-config? |
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slef |
@query yaml config |
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slef |
huginn`: hello? |
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mtj2 |
zAngG! |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Remove use of XML::Simple |
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paul_p |
(ok, will cc you, of course) |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6915 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gbarniskis, ASSIGNED , koha_perl_deps.pl truncates long module names at 26 chars |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , updatedatabase improvements |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , opachiddenitems not working in master |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
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huginn` |
slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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wizzyrea |
I have a concern about patches that are skipping the QA step - I've seen a couple now, bug 4051, for example doesn't seem to have had a going over by one of the designated qa folks. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4051 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , add columns to overdues export |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, they haven't skipped the QA test, it's just that I made the QA. |
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slef |
oof sorry folks I just fell offline |
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paul_p |
(and pushed) |
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wizzyrea |
but, that's not the agreed situation? |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, yes, that is. |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: the current set of QA rules we're operating under allow the RM to jump straight from a "Signed Off" to a "Pushed" |
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wizzyrea |
I see. |
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sekjal |
provided that the author/signer are not from the same company |
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sekjal |
as the RM |
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paul_p |
I just don't do that for a patch made by BibLibre and signed-off by BibLibre too |
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paul_p |
and I try to do that on small patches. |
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cait |
if that's the agreed set of rules |
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cait |
should go on the wiki |
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wizzyrea |
hmm, 4051 doesn't follow that paradigm. |
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cait |
I am a bit more worried about untested follow ups |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, I promize chris_c has not been hired by BibLibre yet ;-) |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: signoff is by rangi |
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dpavlin |
wizzyrea: I tend to belive RM with final decisions... What is your concern? |
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paul_p |
cait, do you have an example ? |
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cait |
the updatedatebase to the 'unknown' problem for item_DUE |
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cait |
sorry, I have a problem with numbers |
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cait |
but can find it |
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paul_p |
I have added a few follow-ups, but that was only comments or very minor things like that. Except for the item_DUE, that I tested before pushing. |
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wizzyrea |
ok, I concede that you got a signoff external to biblibre, but the patch was originally biblibre, and didn't go through a non biblibre QA. I'm not trying to generate work, I'm just trying to understand the rules. |
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paul_p |
cait, would you have prefered a failed QA because the updatedatabase is missing ? |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
let me explain |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, 4 steps (provide patch / sign-off patch / QA / push), there must be at least 2 companies involved. |
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cait |
and sorry for picking that - it was the fist I was thinking of |
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paul_p |
and, for "large" patch, I won't QA myself, even if I could with our rules |
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cait |
I was very surprised about the version numbering for this, so it's a good example perhaps anyway |
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cait |
and it would not have hurt to push the first patch - and the updatedatabase later on |
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slef |
I feel that RM should be reluctant to QA. If RM=QA then we've one less set of eyeballs. But sometimes it's necessary. |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
sorry, not trying to be annoying |
| 18:42 |
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wizzyrea |
I agree with slef. |
| 18:42 |
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paul_p |
cait, that's a topic i've added (database version) |
| 18:43 |
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paul_p |
maybe I changed something, without knowing... |
| 18:43 |
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sekjal |
#link http://www.mail-archive.com/ko[…]org/msg02253.html |
| 18:43 |
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tajoli |
Personaly I think that same time RM=QA is OK. Fore example SQL file of no-english languages |
| 18:43 |
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paul_p |
in the last days, I made some QA, but it was only for small/obvious patches, except the item_DUE one. |
| 18:44 |
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* slef |
notes his internet connection quality has gone through the floor :( |
| 18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
well I guess I'll be happy with it if it's the approved process. |
| 18:45 |
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sekjal |
in the link I just posted, I laid out 6 rules for QA |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
like wizzyrea said |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
or what she said |
| 18:45 |
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sekjal |
the only response on that thread was from paul_p |
| 18:46 |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: your rules are sane. |
| 18:46 |
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* magnuse |
gotta catch a plane |
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| 18:47 |
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sekjal |
thanks, wizzyrea. I'd hoped so. I think what remains is for the community as a whole to ratify or reject them |
| 18:47 |
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slef |
sekjal: I remember replying to the signed-off patches point. :-/ |
| 18:47 |
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Brooke |
put it on the agenda |
| 18:47 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
| 18:47 |
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Brooke |
that's how things get ratified or rejected :P |
| 18:47 |
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sekjal |
slef: there were several concurrent threads on similar subjects; I may have misplaced your response. looking... |
| 18:48 |
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slef |
sekjal: I may have mistakenly discarded the thread you linked as a duplicate. Too many people still cross-post to koha and koha-devel and sometimes it confuses me. |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
morning |
| 18:48 |
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Brooke |
morena |
| 18:48 |
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paul_p |
'morning rangi |
| 18:49 |
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Brooke |
we're getting really granular again |
| 18:49 |
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Brooke |
so |
| 18:49 |
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paul_p |
Brooke++ |
| 18:49 |
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Brooke |
what do we want to do about qa? |
| 18:49 |
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tajoli |
Chiris, on your mail about 3.4.7 you insert the line RELEASE NOTES FOR KOHA 3.6.2 |
| 18:49 |
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Brooke |
or were we just seeking a clarification? |
| 18:49 |
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paul_p |
i've another concern about QA/jenkins |
| 18:49 |
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| 18:49 |
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paul_p |
i've added it on the agenda: when jenkins complains, what should be do ? |
| 18:50 |
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wizzyrea |
I think what he's doing now is just peachy |
| 18:50 |
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wizzyrea |
(good) |
| 18:50 |
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rangi |
ppl should fix the stuff they broke |
| 18:50 |
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slef |
(a slightly more general aside: can any msg me how to get a complete mbox-like copy of sekjal's email so I can reply to it?) |
| 18:50 |
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Brooke |
k moving on to what paul just mentioned |
| 18:50 |
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Brooke |
#topic Pushing a Patch with a Jenkins complain |
| 18:50 |
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Topic for #koha is now Pushing a Patch with a Jenkins complain |
| 18:50 |
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joannR |
brooke: what will do with these parked 'granular' issues that do need addressing |
| 18:50 |
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* rangi |
spent a few hours yesterday doing that for others |
| 18:50 |
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Brooke |
hopefully they'll go out to the list |
| 18:51 |
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Brooke |
get some sort of resolution |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
bug 5327 |
| 18:51 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 18:51 |
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Brooke |
and come up again in a more condensed version |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
and bug 5604 |
| 18:51 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5604 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , additional icons for the Seshat set |
| 18:51 |
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Brooke |
or be ironed out on IRC while it's not the meeting |
| 18:51 |
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paul_p |
rangi++ |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
patches on those |
| 18:51 |
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Brooke |
we could address them here every month, but that is how you get 8 hour meetings. |
| 18:51 |
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slef |
paul_p: I'd pick option 1.5 ;-) maybe slower than immediate revert if a fix is promised, but revert breakages faster than a week if possible, else it may block some testers |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
will stop jenkins complaining |
| 18:51 |
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paul_p |
i've pushed another fix to tests (boolean.t was wrong) |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
Brooke: I think we should talk about that here |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
really |
| 18:52 |
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jransom |
QA practice is a critical issue |
| 18:52 |
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tcohen |
are we using any mock libs for unit tests? |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
I agree that we can't have unit tests and keep breaking them for weeks |
| 18:53 |
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jransom |
(but dont want an 8 hour meeting either :) |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
things that break unit tests should not go in |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
fail qa |
| 18:53 |
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paul_p |
cait++ |
| 18:53 |
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wizzyrea |
right so that means that as developers we probably need to be more fastidious about running the unit tests on our work |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
it's easy to run the tests - we should add it to the development and qa workflows |
| 18:53 |
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slef |
well, yes, that's another aspect: why would such a thing be pushed? |
| 18:53 |
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tcohen |
cait++ |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
and if it breaks - either the tests are wrong or the feature - but both should be fixed. |
| 18:54 |
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drojf |
cait++ |
| 18:54 |
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paul_p |
cait, it's easy to run the tests, but there are so many, you don't always know which one to run |
| 18:54 |
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slef |
the developer failed to test, the signed-offer failed, QAM didn't flag it and RM didn't notice? |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
you can run them all |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
it's not that long |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
prove |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
one line in a window, do something else in another ;) |
| 18:54 |
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paul_p |
cait, jenkins need more than 1 hours to run all the tests ! |
| 18:55 |
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paul_p |
rangi told me he ran 00.* before pushing anything. |
| 18:55 |
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wizzyrea |
#action someone please add documentation to the developer/git pages on the wiki on "how to run tests" |
| 18:55 |
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Brooke |
#help Add Documentation about Testing to the wiki |
| 18:55 |
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tcohen |
is there a guidelines section for writing testsunit ? |
| 18:55 |
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cait |
not usre, I thought they were running faster last time I did |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
if you change a module, u should at least run its test |
| 18:55 |
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paul_p |
I think it's OK to have jenkins complaining, if we have a clear workflow like "if jenkins complains, if a patch is not provided in the next 7days, it will be reverted" |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
so perhaps it's a bit harder, but still not too hard |
| 18:56 |
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wizzyrea |
well I think we should head those off |
| 18:56 |
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rangi |
or change a template, run those tests |
| 18:56 |
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wahanui |
rangi: that doesn't look right |
| 18:56 |
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wizzyrea |
developer should run the test on their own work |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
forget that |
| 18:56 |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot that |
| 18:56 |
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wizzyrea |
signoff should run the tests |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
that is <reply> |
| 18:56 |
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rangi |
u dont have to run all, but at least the relevant ones |
| 18:56 |
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* jcamins |
didn't find the tests took that long when he tried running them. I think Jenkins is on a VPS that doesn't have a lot of power because rangi donated it. |
| 18:57 |
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wizzyrea |
(and say they did, if they did, then qa may not need to!) |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
its on a biblibre one now |
| 18:57 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea/rangi= but you have to know which one are relevant ! |
| 18:57 |
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wizzyrea |
i am ok having a window on my test system running all of the tests. |
| 18:57 |
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wizzyrea |
as step 1 in this process. |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
yes but if you change members.pm run at least members.t |
| 18:57 |
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paul_p |
agreed |
| 18:58 |
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wizzyrea |
and if you don't know, run em all! |
| 18:58 |
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sekjal |
any change to a C4 module requires that module to be tested (at least) |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
if ppl want |
| 18:58 |
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wizzyrea |
you can always reference against jenkins |
| 18:58 |
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paul_p |
that could/should be added to QA workflow, isn't it ? |
| 18:58 |
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paul_p |
(in the QA comments) |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
I can run a test writing tutorial on irc |
| 18:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it ought to be at all stages, developers are responsible too |
| 18:59 |
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mtj2 |
and if you did run *some* of the tests, for your patch - then state that info in the bugzilla update, etc... |
| 18:59 |
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paul_p |
rangi, test writing & test running ? |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
so ppl can add tests when the add functions too |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 18:59 |
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paul_p |
great ! |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
I can show how to set git hooks |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
1. if a dev runs the tests -> qa won't find anything wrong |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
so git does it for u |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
rangi: oh, well, I still didn't think it took me an hour to run the tests. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
rangi++ |
| 19:00 |
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* oleonard |
wants to know more about git hooks |
| 19:00 |
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dpavlin |
should we run tests under some kind of harness and collect results like CPAN does? This might prove very useful for tracking endge cases? |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
takes about 20 mins on my desktop |
| 19:00 |
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Brooke |
#idea harness test results |
| 19:00 |
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paul_p |
rangi, why does it take 1hour for jenkins ? |
| 19:00 |
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Brooke |
#idea teach people about the testing process |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 19:00 |
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paul_p |
(and just 20mn for you?) |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
love that idea |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
it does a full makefile.pl |
| 19:01 |
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Brooke |
#idea update documentation to reflect what different developers do |
| 19:01 |
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Brooke |
making_koha_better++ |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
and runs coverage tests too |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
plus its java :) |
| 19:01 |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
and my desktop has a lot more ram |
| 19:01 |
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paul_p |
what's the diff between t and xt ? |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
xt are not functional |
| 19:02 |
|
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ago43_lunch is now known as ago43 |
| 19:02 |
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jransom |
yup |
| 19:02 |
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paul_p |
(maybe not a question for the meeting...) |
| 19:02 |
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jransom |
oops |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
the test things like are things transltable |
| 19:02 |
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* chris_n |
agrees that it is the dev's job to run tests and fix them |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
etc |
| 19:02 |
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edveal is now known as edveal-lunch |
| 19:02 |
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jransom |
im off folks - meetings to get to |
| 19:02 |
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chris_n |
probably if a patch breaks a test it should be rejected |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
ok my bus stop bb soon |
| 19:03 |
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| 19:03 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n++ i agree - and qa should run them (if the signoff doesn't say that they did) |
| 19:03 |
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paul_p |
Brooke, next topic ? |
| 19:04 |
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Brooke |
not sure if we're exhausted on this |
| 19:04 |
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Brooke |
folks, what's your pleasure? We all talked out? |
| 19:04 |
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| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
which actually brings up another question for me - how far does the responsibility of the signoff person go? |
| 19:04 |
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mtj2 |
if we can get better wiki-doc for devs running tests on their patches, we will all win - big time :) |
| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
make sure the functionality works? check the code for formatting errors? |
| 19:04 |
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paul_p |
mtate, right. |
| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
run the tests? |
| 19:04 |
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chris_n |
mtj2: prove t && prove xt |
| 19:04 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, make sure the feature works |
| 19:04 |
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chris_n |
then just watch the results |
| 19:05 |
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paul_p |
QA being "how the code is written" |
| 19:05 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: bare minimum, make sure the functionality works IMO. Ideally check formatting and run tests (and say that you have). |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: I think important is to state what you have done in the patch or bug |
| 19:05 |
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thd |
wizzyrea: Depends on the standard which QA has the time to test. |
| 19:05 |
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chris_n |
cait++ |
| 19:05 |
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wizzyrea |
ok cool, I always felt guilty when one of my signoffs dies in QA |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
so someone else will know what was tested and can do more testing based on that |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
if he/she thinks something was missed |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
"was my testing bad?" |
| 19:06 |
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thd |
wizzyrea: What slef said a minimum and document the level of testing. |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
we all miss things, we can only try to document what we do |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
I think |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
thanks, that clears it up for me |
| 19:06 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, when I QA, I sometimes don't look at the feature. I look at the code itself. |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ that is EXTREMELY helpful to know |
| 19:07 |
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wizzyrea |
so signoff = working as intended from the UI |
| 19:07 |
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slef |
I've failed at this myself. I will improve. |
| 19:07 |
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chris_n |
final QA is normally done during "alpha" and "beta" releases |
| 19:07 |
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paul_p |
(well 60% of the time, I also look at the feature. But with the *great* tests plan made by ppl like cait, it's often very easy !) |
| 19:07 |
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thd |
paul_p: How can you be certain that the code did not mislead you into believing that the feature works? |
| 19:07 |
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chris_n |
which we don't do |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
QA = look at the feature (possibly) and look at the code |
| 19:08 |
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paul_p |
thd, i'm not, I trust the author/signoff-er. |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
trust no-one |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
it's not paranoia because they're all out to get you |
| 19:08 |
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paul_p |
and, when the signoff has been made by cait or wizzyrea or oleonard, i'm more comfortable than when it has been signed-off by someone I never saw before |
| 19:09 |
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thd |
paul_p: OK. I usually find the other way round that testing the feature misleads people into believing that the code works. |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
back |
| 19:09 |
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thd |
s/works/works as intended/ |
| 19:09 |
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paul_p |
thd, right, and/but it really depends on how large the patch is and what kind of thing it impacts |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
paul_p: I miss things too, all the time |
| 19:10 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
| 19:10 |
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Brooke |
so here's a thought |
| 19:10 |
|
Brooke |
how about |
| 19:10 |
|
Brooke |
we figure out when a logical downtime is |
| 19:10 |
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Brooke |
and run a training session for bugtesting |
| 19:10 |
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chris_n |
yes, but if QA includes running the test suite, you won't miss those failures |
| 19:10 |
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thd |
paul_p: I concede that for very small patches looking at the code is about the only useful thing to do. |
| 19:10 |
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Brooke |
or at least a moot about how folks test for qa |
| 19:10 |
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chris_n |
unless your screen breaks |
| 19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
what chris_n says |
| 19:10 |
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Brooke |
hackfest is logical, but lots of folks don't make conference |
| 19:11 |
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chris_n |
running the suite is super simple too |
| 19:11 |
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wizzyrea |
I think that we should strive to keep jenkins happy |
| 19:11 |
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paul_p |
Brooke, the idea of training session for bugtesting is great. |
| 19:11 |
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thd |
Brooke++ |
| 19:11 |
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wizzyrea |
if jenkins is unhappy, someone has not done their job. |
| 19:11 |
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paul_p |
francharb was really pleased with what he learned at KohaCon11 ! |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
and we're not going to point and blame - we're going to just fix it already. |
| 19:12 |
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francharb |
++ |
| 19:12 |
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francharb |
thats true! |
| 19:12 |
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Brooke |
#idea a bugtesting training session at some point in a release cycle to bring new folks in and put old folks on the same page |
| 19:12 |
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indradg |
Brooke++ |
| 19:12 |
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francharb |
one day i will write a "git-bz for the noob" post on biblibre blog! ;) |
| 19:13 |
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paul_p |
BibLibre will also organize a week of hackfestin march 2012 |
| 19:13 |
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wizzyrea |
git bz is amazing |
| 19:13 |
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paul_p |
(like last year) |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
that was the idea of gbsd |
| 19:13 |
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paul_p |
it should be week 12 of 2012 |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
to make more people interested and show them how to do things |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
in a group |
| 19:13 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, we should take a gbsd and squash the bugs out of our qa process :P |
| 19:13 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: we can keep jenkins happy if either QA or the RM will run the suite before every push |
| 19:13 |
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paul_p |
(should be confirmed and announced loudly next week) |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
we could add that to the next gbsd perhaps? |
| 19:13 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
some training sessions? |
| 19:13 |
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chris_n |
and we don't need a training session to do that |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
explicitly in the announcement, perhaps with times |
| 19:14 |
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* paul_p |
agrees for some training on next gbsd |
| 19:14 |
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Brooke |
#idea use next gbsd for bugtesting training |
| 19:14 |
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chris_n |
paul_p: what is wrong with running the test suite before you push and rejecting patches which cause failures? |
| 19:15 |
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paul_p |
chris_n, how long it takes |
| 19:15 |
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slef |
#idea someone add the set-bugzilla-metadata-like-status to git bz before I get time |
| 19:15 |
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chris_n |
so time trumps quality |
| 19:15 |
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chris_n |
? |
| 19:15 |
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* dpavlin |
confused. prove t/ && prove xt/ takes 27+4 seconds for me. Am I missing something? |
| 19:15 |
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paul_p |
not only, jenkins is here to do that. What I must improve is my reaction when jenkins complains |
| 19:15 |
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chris_n |
no |
| 19:15 |
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chris_n |
I think what dpavlin said is true here |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
paul_p: perhaps try to run them on your local machine again? |
| 19:16 |
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rangi |
dpavlin: there is the t/db_dependent suite too |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
or part of it |
| 19:16 |
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chris_n |
even that is worth the wait |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
as rangi suggested |
| 19:16 |
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jcamins |
dpavlin: prove t ; prove xt ; prove t/db_dependent |
| 19:16 |
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paul_p |
db_dependant also requires to have a specific database (isn't it rangi ?) |
| 19:17 |
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rangi |
the important ones for templates images pod |
| 19:17 |
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rangi |
are in xt/author/ |
| 19:17 |
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dpavlin |
Thanks, keep hints comming, I will turn them into wiki page after meeting :-) |
| 19:17 |
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rangi |
any change you make to templates those are good to run, and are fast |
| 19:17 |
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wizzyrea |
dpavlin++ |
| 19:17 |
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paul_p |
dpavlin++ |
| 19:17 |
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chris_n |
dpavlin++ |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
dpavlin++ for that and other useful documentation work! |
| 19:17 |
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rangi |
paul_p: a db with all the sample data loaded in, should work |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
dpavlin++ |
| 19:18 |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
| 19:18 |
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paul_p |
the sample datas that are in installer/data/mysql/en/* ? |
| 19:18 |
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paul_p |
rangi, the sample datas that are in installer/data/mysql/en/* ? |
| 19:18 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 19:18 |
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paul_p |
ok, will check & try |
| 19:18 |
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rangi |
i havent set up a new one in a while |
| 19:18 |
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rangi |
but thats how i did it |
| 19:19 |
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Brooke |
okie dokie |
| 19:19 |
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Brooke |
now I think we can move to DB Version Numbering |
| 19:19 |
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Brooke |
yes? |
| 19:19 |
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wizzyrea |
great, thanks for talking that out peeps I feel a lot better. |
| 19:19 |
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mtj2 |
rangi: cool, is that the same db that jenkins is running every test too? |
| 19:19 |
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paul_p |
Brooke, I think so. |
| 19:19 |
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Brooke |
#topic DB Version Numbering Bug 6530 |
| 19:19 |
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Topic for #koha is now DB Version Numbering Bug 6530 |
| 19:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6530 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, REOPENED , item due notice label saying 'unknown' |
| 19:20 |
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paul_p |
Here is my question: the next stable release will be 3.6.2, it means patches with an updatedatabase I push those days should be numbered 3.06.02.xxx, isn't it ? |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
I think we used to do it differently |
| 19:20 |
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wizzyrea |
well |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
but this can be discussed |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
it's a bit confusing that my master installation believes to be a 3.6.2 |
| 19:21 |
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paul_p |
that's what rangi & chris_n told me, but I don't understand how/what it works |
| 19:21 |
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chris_n |
well |
| 19:21 |
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paul_p |
cait, but for ppl running stable/3.6.x, it's OK |
| 19:21 |
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chris_n |
it only "believes" that because of the way the number is parsed by about.pl |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
i always pushed 3.3 and 3.5 to master |
| 19:22 |
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rangi |
chris_n pushed 3.2 and 3.4 ones |
| 19:22 |
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wizzyrea |
odd numbers = dev version |
| 19:22 |
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chris_n |
however, we have been using odd numbers for development cycles and evens for stable |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
i liked it |
| 19:22 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
| 19:22 |
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paul_p |
so, does it mean a DB rev that is in both will have 2 numbers ? |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
and easy to find out what someone is really running |
| 19:22 |
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paul_p |
(2 different numbers I mean) |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
paul_p: yes, that's how it was |
| 19:23 |
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paul_p |
so, when someone upgraded from a 3.2.x to 3.4.0, he got some update made twice ? |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
usually very few go on the stable one |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
no |
| 19:23 |
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paul_p |
so there's something i'm still missing ! |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
he wouldnt go 3.2.x to 3.3.x to 3.4.x |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
so would only get it once |
| 19:23 |
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wizzyrea |
3.2.x -> 3.4.0 directly. |
| 19:24 |
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paul_p |
mmm, sorry, I don't have it |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
perhaps looking at the updates for the last version will help to clear things up? |
| 19:25 |
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* chris_n |
thinks the bottom line is either way works so it is a matter of preference |
| 19:25 |
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paul_p |
cait, maybe |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
chris_n: for me part of it is consistency |
| 19:25 |
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chris_n |
so long as we don't move backwards :-) |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
and being able to ask someone who shows upon irc |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
we all know cait loves consistency |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
what he is running |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
nothing wrong with that :) |
| 19:26 |
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chris_n |
consistency++ |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
I like change too - as long as it's consistent change :P |
| 19:26 |
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* wizzyrea |
ponders the fact that koha is nothing if not consistent change ;) |
| 19:26 |
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paul_p |
cait, if someone run master, he usually know it ! and when master becomes stable, a new "fake" DBrev will be introduced to tell him "3.08.00.001" |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
paul_p: I think I have to disagree here - people do weird tihngs :) |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
and: someone else installed it for me... I don't know what he did |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I disagree too. |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
A lot of people seem to have no idea what they're running. |
| 19:28 |
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Brooke |
in the before time, there was no about page. |
| 19:28 |
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mtj2 |
fiy: i think about.pl could be improved to detect/report a master install better |
| 19:28 |
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* Brooke |
nods. |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
how |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
if not by version number |
| 19:29 |
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* paul_p |
digging into gitweb... |
| 19:29 |
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rangi |
how could it possibly know otherwise |
| 19:29 |
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chris_n |
@quote add <jcamins> A lot of people seem to have no idea what they're running. |
| 19:29 |
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huginn` |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #170 added. |
| 19:30 |
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chris_n |
well |
| 19:30 |
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mtj2 |
rangi: the next point release after stable is master? |
| 19:30 |
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cait |
you can download snapshots from git too - so no need for it to be a git install |
| 19:30 |
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chris_n |
given paul_p's current practice about.pl could look at the dev portion of the version number |
| 19:30 |
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rangi |
no its not |
| 19:30 |
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chris_n |
given the other way, it could look for an odd minor reve number |
| 19:30 |
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rangi |
mtj2: 3.6.1 is 3.6.x branch |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
dep portion of the version number? |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
dev... |
| 19:31 |
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mtj2 |
ie: is 3.6.x is stable, then 3.x.x means you are running master? |
| 19:31 |
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chris_n |
cait: see comments in kohaversion.pl |
| 19:31 |
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mtj2 |
oops, s/is/if/ |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
chris_n: sorry, don't get it, perhaps later |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
right so version numbers |
| 19:31 |
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paul_p |
OK, I think i've my example... |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
and no i might be running 3.2.x or 3.4.x |
| 19:32 |
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* chris_n |
thinks the arcane knowledge hidden there has been lost in the mists of koha history |
| 19:32 |
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paul_p |
in 3.4 updatedatabase : |
| 19:32 |
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paul_p |
4425 $DBversion = "3.04.05.001"; |
| 19:32 |
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paul_p |
it's the same as in master |
| 19:32 |
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paul_p |
$DBversion = "3.05.00.019"; |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 19:33 |
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paul_p |
SO, someone running 3.4.5 and upgrading to 3.6.0 will have 3.5.0.019 run |
| 19:33 |
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rangi |
but not 3.6.x |
| 19:33 |
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rangi |
no |
| 19:33 |
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paul_p |
??? |
| 19:33 |
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paul_p |
(that's what I've missed I feel) |
| 19:33 |
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rangi |
not nessecarily, some are checked |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
generally it works because you dont do updatedatabase on stable branches |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
unless its a big bug |
| 19:34 |
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paul_p |
(in this case, it's not -but it won't harm, the UPDATE will just make nothing-) |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
and yup |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
but if we number it 3.6.x we still have 3.4.x branch now, so it just shifts the problem |
| 19:34 |
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paul_p |
OK, but I feel it introduces a risk of inconsistency |
| 19:35 |
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paul_p |
(and inconsistency is bad ;-) ) |
| 19:35 |
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paul_p |
rangi, right |
| 19:35 |
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chris_n |
so we need to patch kohaversion.pl to explain correctly then |
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| 19:35 |
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rangi |
so i still like master to run odd numbers so its obvious its dev |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
and stable even |
| 19:35 |
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Brooke |
#help patch kohaversion.pl to explain numbering |
| 19:35 |
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paul_p |
maybe all this discussion will become useless with the new DB update system : we could have "patch applied" coming from the db update and "kohaversion" coming from kohaversion.pl ! |
| 19:36 |
|
* chris_n |
tends to lean toward the even/odd system too |
| 19:36 |
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paul_p |
rangi, you mean that before releasing, you update all DB numbers in updatedatabase ? |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
no, i think we are talking past each other and that the problem is not solvable by using different numbers |
| 19:37 |
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schuster |
question for your jquery folks - on the results page in opac can jquery change [electronic resource] to say [ebook title] so we wouldn't have to break cataloging rules and "redo" all of those MARC records? |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
schuster: meeting time |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
schuster: we are in a meeting |
| 19:37 |
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schuster |
oh sorry... |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
:) all good :) |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
paul_p: so whatever number we use because we have 3 branches |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
there will be the chance of double ups |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
so just pick a convention, and stick with it is fine |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
schuster: yes |
| 19:38 |
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schuster |
got my answer thanks all - I even knew there was a meeting today. sorry |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
don't be |
| 19:39 |
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Brooke |
k |
| 19:39 |
|
Brooke |
we talked out on this? |
| 19:39 |
|
* Brooke |
not so secretly hopes so. |
| 19:39 |
|
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trea is now known as trea-lunch |
| 19:40 |
|
Brooke |
#topic KohaCon 2012 |
| 19:40 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2012 |
| 19:40 |
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* chris_n |
thinks it is a matter of preference more than a matter of functionality |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n |
opps |
| 19:40 |
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Brooke |
slef go! |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea is now known as wizzyrea-lunch |
| 19:40 |
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paul_p |
Brooke, I think so, but i'm still not clearly decided... will think of it and maybe drop a mail to koha-devel ! |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea-lunch |
(sorry, gonna eat my arm off) |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 19:40 |
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slef |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 |
| 19:41 |
|
slef |
We're still negotiating the venue *sigh* |
| 19:41 |
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Brooke |
time's a tickin |
| 19:41 |
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paul_p |
slef, nego with who ? |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
so no dates yet? |
| 19:41 |
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slef |
Yeah. I thought we had an agreement, but then what we were mailed diverged in some important ways, so round we go again. |
| 19:42 |
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slef |
I'm 98% sure we'll be 5th-11th June 2012. |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
cool! |
| 19:42 |
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Brooke |
if it's not nailed down by next meeting, then what? |
| 19:42 |
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slef |
But I don't want to tell people to buy travel until we're sure. |
| 19:43 |
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slef |
Brooke: if it's not nailed down before Christmas, I think we switch to a backup venue. |
| 19:43 |
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Brooke |
k |
| 19:43 |
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Brooke |
cause it's probably cutting a real fine line with folks' budgeting cycles |
| 19:43 |
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thd |
slef: Do you have a backup venue? |
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| 19:44 |
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slef |
thd: yes |
| 19:44 |
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Brooke |
anything else that's new or interesting to report? |
| 19:44 |
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* thd |
thinks tents on the city green would be a fine backup venue. |
| 19:44 |
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slef |
those of you who have seen pics/vids, hopefully can see why we think this is first choice |
| 19:44 |
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paul_p |
slef, how do you plan to have the conf: 3 days conf + 3 days hackfest ? |
| 19:45 |
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paul_p |
with 1 day of between them ? |
| 19:45 |
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slef |
#help please put into the wishlist ideas you want |
| 19:45 |
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slef |
paul_p: yes, exactly that! :) |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
only 3 days hackfest? |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
;) |
| 19:46 |
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slef |
I'd also like any ideas for the day off, please; and if anyone might be interested in a road trip from any English cities (I guess many will fly into London?) |
| 19:46 |
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Brooke |
road trip++ |
| 19:47 |
|
Brooke |
<--- prolly not going though |
| 19:47 |
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paul_p |
slef, fly to london ? why ? Isn't Edinburg a great place ? |
| 19:47 |
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slef |
I think ideas we have had are a tour of Edinburgh and a fishing trip. But first we sort out the conf. |
| 19:47 |
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* paul_p |
dreams of a day off in the country... |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
slef: Saint Andrews! |
| 19:47 |
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paul_p |
fishing trip++++++ ! |
| 19:47 |
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* jwagner |
has been wanting to go to the Lake District for years |
| 19:47 |
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dpavlin |
From last KohaConf, we will be half-exsausted by 4th day, something easy please :-) |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
dpavlin: Saint Andrews is easy. |
| 19:47 |
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slef |
paul_p: Edinburgh and Glasgow have some international air links, but London is a big hub. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
And beautiful. |
| 19:47 |
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paul_p |
is loch ness far from Edinburg ? |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: easy day trip. |
| 19:48 |
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slef |
paul_p: heh. yes. |
| 19:48 |
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dpavlin |
Loch Ness++ |
| 19:48 |
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slef |
I've no idea if that's doable in a day, but we can check. Update the wishlist wiki, please! |
| 19:48 |
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thd |
paul_p: flying direct to Edinburgh is more expensive from most places than direct to London. |
| 19:48 |
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slef |
But anyway, first we sort out the conf. |
| 19:49 |
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Brooke |
anything else? |
| 19:49 |
|
wahanui |
it has been said that anything else is just piling mess on top |
| 19:49 |
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slef |
Not from me. Any questions? |
| 19:49 |
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schuster |
When we went years ago it was fly into London, take train to Edinburgh - I recommend the scotch museum...:) |
| 19:49 |
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ibeardslee |
scotch museum+++ |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins |
Whiskey included with your admission ticket, if you're over 18. |
| 19:50 |
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Brooke |
#topic KohaCon2013 |
| 19:50 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon2013 |
| 19:50 |
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slef |
schuster: yes, there are fast trains from London King's Cross, sleepers from London Euston and cheap buses from London Victoria. This will be documented once we have dates. |
| 19:50 |
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| 19:51 |
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slef |
schuster: but I will be travelling a non-straightforward route anyway, and I enjoyed the road trip, so I keep it in mind as a possibility. |
| 19:51 |
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| 19:51 |
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Brooke |
personally, I think we should hold off on proposals until after Scotland; folks might be inspired to bid after the Conference that wouldn't before it |
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| 19:52 |
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mglavica |
ops |
| 19:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #558: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/558/ |
| 19:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Jenkins complaining = fixing number of tests |
| 19:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5604 : Follow up for missing image |
| 19:52 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5604 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , additional icons for the Seshat set |
| 19:52 |
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ibeardslee |
the LCA announce their next conference at the conference |
| 19:52 |
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* Brooke |
nods |
| 19:52 |
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Brooke |
my Fraternity did it that way for 2 years out. |
| 19:52 |
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ibeardslee |
very handy for people to start the planning of travel etc |
| 19:53 |
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* Brooke |
nods. |
| 19:53 |
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dpavlin |
DebConf usually have at least proposal on conferece, and then continues to mail-it-to-death for a year |
| 19:53 |
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dpavlin |
We *might* propose Zagreb and our Univeristity librarary, but our fear is lack of commercial prospect in the region. |
| 19:53 |
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thd |
I am all for mail-it-to-death contests |
| 19:53 |
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schuster |
#info schuster - David Schuster Plano ISD. |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
I think debconf is currently proposing for 2013? |
| 19:54 |
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tajoli |
In theory koha 2013 for Africa or Soth America |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
there was mail about it today... I knew I should have read it properly ;-) |
| 19:54 |
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Brooke |
zeno would be nice but can't happen without folks stepping up |
| 19:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.4.x build #66: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 23 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/66/ |
| 19:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: 3.4.7 Translation Update |
| 19:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.07.000 |
| 19:55 |
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Brooke |
I hear a lot from Africa that they definitely want conference *sometime* but not _nexttime_ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 67 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 2 mo. 0 j ago) |
| 19:55 |
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tajoli |
I'm think of Venezuela. They don't speak abot a state version of Koha ? |
| 19:56 |
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thd |
Brooke, which countries do you hear from in Africa? |
| 19:56 |
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Brooke |
some Nigerians have mentioned it here and there, and way back there was rumour of SA |
| 19:56 |
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slef |
I would love it if we could get it if people were starting to propose kohacon X+2 at kohacon X. Is that doable? |
| 19:56 |
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Brooke |
if it's *at* KohaCon, it also has to be over IRC |
| 19:56 |
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Brooke |
imo |
| 19:57 |
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dpavlin |
+2 seems totally resonable. |
| 19:57 |
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Brooke |
because I don't want to disenfranchise folks that don't show to conference |
| 19:57 |
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thd |
Brooke++ |
| 19:57 |
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paul_p |
I think i would prefer KohaCon with many attendees in a continent where we already had one more than a new continent with only a few attendees... |
| 19:57 |
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tajoli |
Clearly |
| 19:57 |
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thd |
paul_p++ |
| 19:58 |
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slef |
Brooke: or video pitches. |
| 19:58 |
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dpavlin |
but we should shift continents yearly, right? |
| 19:58 |
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paul_p |
dpavlin, yes. But you know, UK is not really Europe :D :D :D |
| 19:58 |
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Brooke |
I think shifting it builds interest |
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| 19:58 |
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tajoli |
For Zagreb is Ok for 2013 |
| 19:58 |
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thd |
We should not make rules about venue location which primarily result in poor attendance. |
| 19:58 |
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Brooke |
but if we get a bid for Zagreb |
| 19:58 |
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Brooke |
and no one else bids |
| 19:58 |
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Brooke |
then |
| 19:58 |
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Brooke |
hooray :) |
| 19:58 |
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slef |
paul_p: stop trying to disown us. We still love you, despite Sarkozy! |
| 19:59 |
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thd |
It is perfectly reasonably for places with more interest in Koha to host more conferences. |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
paul_p++ |
| 19:59 |
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Brooke |
thd that's what local conferences are made for |
| 19:59 |
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Brooke |
that and practice for international |
| 19:59 |
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Brooke |
if you hated hosting your local conference, you'd prolly loathe hosting KohaCon |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
zagreb++ :) |
| 20:00 |
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Brooke |
conversely, if you're a masochist, eyes wide open. |
| 20:00 |
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thd |
Brooke: You are correct about the purposes of local conferences. |
| 20:00 |
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Brooke |
again personally, I just don't want it to degrade into the US and EU have Conference 4 EVAR |
| 20:01 |
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dpavlin |
Let's consider Zagreb backup option for 2013. |
| 20:01 |
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Brooke |
dpavlin, I don't see any reason you can't start checking things out |
| 20:01 |
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Brooke |
worse comes to worst |
| 20:01 |
|
Brooke |
you have information for next time round |
| 20:01 |
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thd |
Brooke: However, conference venue rotation rules should not force a venue where there is insufficient interest in actually organising a conference. |
| 20:01 |
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Brooke |
I think Zagreb would be neat |
| 20:01 |
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paul_p |
maybe what we should do now is drop a mail to koha ML to say "hey, who is interested to host KohaCon13" ? |
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Brooke |
insufficient interest would mean no proposal from that region thd |
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slef |
(dagnabbit where was that email about debconf?) |
| 20:02 |
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slef |
paul_p++ |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
yes +1 |
| 20:03 |
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dpavlin |
paul_p++ |
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thd |
Brooke: Exactly, we should not push people hard to hold a conference in some location where we have not had one if they really have not enough interest to put themselves forward. |
| 20:03 |
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Brooke |
#action mail a proposal out to the list about hosting 2013 |
| 20:03 |
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slef |
so does cait or dpavlin volunteer to send that email? ;-) |
| 20:03 |
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paul_p |
dpavlin, you start a wiki page & drop a mail to koha general ML ? |
| 20:03 |
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slef |
or do either want to bid? ;-) |
| 20:03 |
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* dpavlin |
grrr... |
| 20:04 |
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thd |
Brooke: Otherwise I agree completely about rotating locations and definitely not having US and EU in alternating turns. |
| 20:04 |
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slef |
or shall I? As we deffo won't bid. |
| 20:04 |
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Brooke |
you do it slef :P |
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* Brooke |
flexes her authoritay |
| 20:04 |
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tajoli |
In fact now the real option are USA, EU, India NZ, AU |
| 20:04 |
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dpavlin |
I think we might want to move away from Europe in 2013 if possible, but I would appiricate mailing list summary from somebody else since I'm not native speaker :-) |
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cait |
I like someone hosting who is present on lists and irc before offering |
| 20:05 |
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drojf |
cait++ |
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cait |
if that makes sense |
| 20:06 |
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schuster |
Ya'll could come back to Plano TX USA, but I suspect you want to see another part of the US! LOL... |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
plano was fun |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
and that media center was top notch |
| 20:06 |
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thd |
tajoli: I expect good proposals from all of those places and their near neighbours. |
| 20:06 |
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paul_p |
cait++ |
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paul_p |
yep, plano was really great ! |
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* oleonard |
would love a KohaCon in bag's neck of the woods |
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Brooke |
aye |
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Brooke |
or DC |
| 20:07 |
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tajoli |
But for example Pakistan (with users and firm) is quite difficult for many of us |
| 20:07 |
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Brooke |
;) |
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schuster |
tks all... I enjoyed having you all here. |
| 20:08 |
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Brooke |
so movin' on |
| 20:08 |
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Brooke |
#topic Koha Christmas Party |
| 20:08 |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Christmas Party |
| 20:08 |
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Brooke |
rangi, yes? |
| 20:08 |
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thd |
The longer ahead we could actually schedule a conference the better prospects people might have of obtaining low prices for the excursion. |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
oh, we should have one |
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rangi |
and you should cater |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
that is all |
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oleonard |
What is a Koha Christmas Party? |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
someone suggested it on irc, so i put it on the agenda |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
i have no idea |
| 20:10 |
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sekjal |
if it involves baked goods, I'm there! |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
coookies! |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
something like gbsd ... but with less work more talking rubbish on irc :) |
| 20:10 |
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Brooke |
*cough* we could do it over someone's Birthday |
| 20:10 |
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JesseM |
Send all gifts to HLT! |
| 20:10 |
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Brooke |
#justsayin |
| 20:10 |
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* oleonard |
doesn't need a holiday to talk rubbish on irc |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
so more like a friday than like gbsd :) |
| 20:11 |
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thd |
rangi: yes GBSD in reverse. |
| 20:11 |
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sekjal |
thd: global bug-creating day? |
| 20:11 |
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drojf |
local |
| 20:11 |
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Brooke |
which Friday? Proper eNZed Friday, or that late Friday everyone else celebrates? |
| 20:11 |
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oleonard |
Sometimes I think that's what GBSD ends up being sekjal (or at least bug-finding) |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
hmmm down 2 only 4 fails on master |
| 20:13 |
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francharb |
bye all! |
| 20:13 |
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rangi |
cya francharb |
| 20:13 |
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francharb |
have a nice day/night! |
| 20:13 |
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francharb |
:) |
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paul_p |
rangi, yep. And I think 2 are duplicates (or 2 reports of 1 problem) |
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rangi |
paul_p: ill look at the Record.pm one now |
| 20:13 |
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rangi |
then perl critic after |
| 20:13 |
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paul_p |
(the testcritic one) |
| 20:13 |
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Brooke |
so no holiday party? |
| 20:14 |
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* slef |
mutters about a 23 Dec meeting he has to attend |
| 20:14 |
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Brooke |
#topic Olde Business and Miscellanea |
| 20:14 |
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Topic for #koha is now Olde Business and Miscellanea |
| 20:14 |
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Brooke |
any other crap we've not beaten to a bloody pulp yet? |
| 20:14 |
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francharb_afk |
Brooke, i just saw that "koha christmas pary" |
| 20:14 |
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francharb_afk |
lucky you |
| 20:14 |
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paul_p |
the perlcritic comes from a patch to have pdf printing working. it's perlcritic level 3 iirc. |
| 20:14 |
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francharb_afk |
that's something we don"t have in france |
| 20:14 |
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francharb_afk |
sounds fun |
| 20:15 |
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francharb_afk |
even more on irc! |
| 20:15 |
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paul_p |
nope, it's level 5 |
| 20:15 |
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mtj2 |
bah, i gotta scoot now too - ciao all |
| 20:15 |
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paul_p |
19:38 ~/koha.dev/koha-community (master $% u=)$ perlcritic acqui/basketgroup.pl Expression form of "eval" at line 190, column 9. See page 161 of PBP. (Severity: 5) |
| 20:15 |
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thd |
On old business which came out around the end of the last meeting ... |
| 20:16 |
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thd |
uploading files is working again for the wiki. |
| 20:16 |
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Brooke |
hooray |
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Brooke |
anything else? |
| 20:16 |
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wahanui |
anything else is just piling mess on top |
| 20:16 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 20:16 |
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cait |
thd++ |
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oleonard |
wahanui: That joke is wearing thin |
| 20:17 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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slef |
thd++ |
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thd |
I fixed it three weeks ago but it failed when I tested but seems to be working with no intervening change except maybe an apache restart. |
| 20:17 |
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Brooke |
#topic Next Meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Next Meeting |
| 20:17 |
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slef |
that joke? |
| 20:17 |
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wahanui |
that joke is wearing thin |
| 20:17 |
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dpavlin |
Where do I configure database which t/db_dependent uses? in current KOHA_CONF ? |
| 20:18 |
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dpavlin |
Should we suggest to run tests under new database, so that people don't run it on production by mistake? |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
dpavlin: yes |
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rangi |
good idea |
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Brooke |
4 January 10 UTC? |
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paul_p |
sounds OK |
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jcamins |
dpavlin: yeah, it's just your regular Koha installation. |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
First Wednesday of next month, minus eight hours? |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
Sounds fine to me, though I won't be able to make it. |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
yep |
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thd |
+1 4 Jan. 10 UTC |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
Seems more fair to cait, et. al. |
| 20:20 |
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cait |
jcamins: hm? |
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cait |
oh, the time |
| 20:20 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it the time is a scary thing |
| 20:20 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 20:20 |
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slef |
+1 2012-01-04 10:00:00 +0000 |
| 20:21 |
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Brooke |
#agreed 4 January 10 UTC |
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Brooke |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.1 & 3.4.6 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 7 December 2011 at 18:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 20:19:02 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-12-07-18.00.html |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-12-07-18.00.txt |
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huginn` |
Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]07-18.00.log.html |
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Brooke |
skitter! |
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rhcl |
#info RHCL = Greg Lawson @ Rolling Hills Consolidated Library |
| 20:22 |
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oleonard |
Missed it by a hair rhcl |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins |
rhcl: sorry, you just missed it. |
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rhcl |
daem |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Time is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. |
| 20:23 |
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wahanui |
...but time is a scary thing... |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget time |
| 20:23 |
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Brooke |
oleonard++ |
| 20:23 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot time |
| 20:23 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Time is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. |
| 20:23 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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slef |
the time? |
| 20:24 |
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wahanui |
the time is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.1 & 3.4.7 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 7 December 2011 at 18:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org |
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slef |
wahanui: forget anything else |
| 20:24 |
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wahanui |
slef: I forgot anything else |
| 20:24 |
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slef |
wahanui: forget that joke |
| 20:24 |
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wahanui |
slef: I forgot that joke |
| 20:24 |
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paul_p |
OK, bye bye ppl, time to go to dinner then bed for me ! |
| 20:24 |
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Brooke |
good night! |
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rangi |
cya paul_p |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.1 & 3.4.7 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 4 January 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org |
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cait |
bye paul_p :) |
| 20:25 |
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indradg |
@wunder kolkata |
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chris_n |
bye paul_p |
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huginn` |
indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 20.0�C (1:20 AM IST on December 08, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:25 |
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rangi |
bug 7141 |
| 20:25 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
the commit for that is causing the test to fail |
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rangi |
but the fix is to change the test |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
because its a whitespace fail |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
ill submit a patch |
| 20:26 |
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paul_p |
& i'll push it (my) tomorrow |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
cool |
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cait |
sleep well :) |
| 20:29 |
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* oleonard |
tries to remember what he was doing before lunch & meeting |
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thd |
slef: What is 2612? |
| 20:31 |
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cait |
ask your current git branch? :) |
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slef |
oleonard: a mind is a wonderful thing to lose. |
| 20:31 |
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slef |
thd: the co-op's internal reference number for KohaCon. |
| 20:32 |
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* oleonard |
remembers he was digging through old bugs looking for treasures |
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cait |
oleonard: I will join you after doing the dishes |
| 20:33 |
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thd |
slef: would 'KohaCon 2012' work almost as well as 2612? |
| 20:34 |
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oleonard |
KohaCon 2612 is going to be great, except for the mutants. |
| 20:34 |
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slef |
thd: oh did I write that in an email? |
| 20:34 |
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* Brooke |
welcomes the mutant overlords. |
| 20:34 |
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thd |
slef: Well maybe but it is on the wiki. |
| 20:34 |
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thd |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 |
| 20:34 |
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slef |
thd: but no, as it would mean whoever received the mail would have to do an index lookup to file it :-/ |
| 20:35 |
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thd |
slef: had you meant 2012? |
| 20:35 |
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slef |
no, bizarrely, our ref no for it really is 2612 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.4.x build #67: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/67/ |
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jenkins_koha |
chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.07.000 07 Dec 2011 19:43:11 Z |
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slef |
if anyone finds a FOSS bug tracker or task tracker which can file mails correctly without using reference numbers, please let me know so I can steal its code ;-) |
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thd |
slef: OK, We really need to develop natural language processing for our computer so that yours know 'KohaCon 2012' should be filed in the 2612 index. |
| 20:37 |
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slef |
thd: snap! |
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slef |
hrm... I think I could upgrade our filer so that if a human identifies the keyword(s) it could try to make a guess |
| 20:38 |
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slef |
ooh that's sick |
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wizzyrea |
my arms are safe. |
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thd |
slef: Be nice to your computers. Give them morally uplifting tasks. |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7141] The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141> |
| 20:40 |
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* chris_n |
discovers a nasty bug in his shiny-new automation script >:-( |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
rangi: thanks. :) |
| 20:41 |
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slef |
thd: most of mine are already seriously deranged. They've known me too long. |
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thd |
slef: In my former bookshop, I gave them the voice of HAL which they would use to announce over the shop's speakers that they had finished some significant job and were available for more work. |
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dpavlin |
slef: request-tracker? |
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slef |
dpavlin: how do you set that to auto-file without the [RT #xxx] style tags? |
| 20:54 |
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* oleonard |
wonders if opac-topissues.pl is worth the trouble to fix... |
| 20:55 |
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Brooke |
as in the stuff that goes out the most? |
| 20:55 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
hm |
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Brooke |
hellz yes it would be |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
i think some libaries use it |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
what's broken with it? |
| 20:55 |
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Brooke |
that would be a key call for the shtuff hlt wants to do |
| 20:56 |
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Brooke |
if you can localise it to a shelf range somehow, I'll give you a cookie. |
| 20:56 |
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oleonard |
It doesn't handle the AdvancedSearchTypes pref correctly, doesn't handle item-level_itypes correctly, doesn't display title information well |
| 20:56 |
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oleonard |
What do you mean about stuff hlt wants to do Brooke? |
| 20:57 |
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* oleonard |
was just going to fix one small i18n bug... |
| 20:57 |
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cait |
oleonard: and thank you for that! |
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cait |
and I understand what you are saying... hm. |
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cait |
are there bug reports for that? |
| 20:59 |
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oleonard |
I was looking at Bug 6141 and discovered these issues as I went |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6141 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , html glitches causing problems to translator |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
fix one, file bugs? |
| 20:59 |
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dpavlin |
slef: References: or TR-Ticket header? |
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wizzyrea |
hm members.t wants a branchcode of 's' which doesn't exist in the sample data |
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* wizzyrea |
just made a whole new database for running tests against |
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wizzyrea |
with all of the sample data |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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Brooke |
hooray thanks liz :) |
| 21:03 |
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Brooke |
und nao |
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Brooke |
kitty feeding time |
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wizzyrea |
so, I can either change the test to look for a branch in the sample data, or add another test branch |
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wizzyrea |
whaddya think |
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jcamins |
Use one already in the sample data. |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
an answer, I'm for this. |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 21:08 |
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jcamins |
Or create a branch at the beginning of the test and remove it at the end. |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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jcamins |
You didn't want an easy answer, did you? |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's better to make sure the necessary stuff is in the sample data |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps a new category for "developer test data" |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
a lot of the tests create and remove |
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rangi |
becuase you have to test the create :) |
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rangi |
but for branches, using the ones in the sample .. when testing say members |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
is a good idea |
| 21:10 |
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wizzyrea |
right - it looks like reserves.t is looking for a bib though, and if you don't have any... |
| 21:10 |
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* jcamins |
personally prefers that option, because that way you don't have to keep two DB configs synced. |
| 21:10 |
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* wizzyrea |
will fix members.t tho |
| 21:10 |
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wizzyrea |
bc that's annoying ;) |
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rangi |
i think i fixed it already? |
| 21:11 |
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wizzyrea |
no, I found this problem when I was testing your patch yesterday |
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wizzyrea |
that it was trying to use a branchcode that didn't exist |
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wizzyrea |
and was failing |
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wizzyrea |
unless you fixed that |
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wizzyrea |
you fixed the other thing in members.t, the real problem |
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wizzyrea |
I think |
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* wizzyrea |
will stop talking now |
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rangi |
ah |
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rangi |
right, yeah feel free to change the branchcode, it uses s i think |
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wizzyrea |
yes, exactly |
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wizzyrea |
imma just change it to one that exists in the sample data |
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wizzyrea |
that makes it easy |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 21:15 |
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jcamins |
Hm. We're still missing field 545. |
| 21:15 |
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jcamins |
Didn't I patch that? |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
I did. |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
Over a year ago. |
| 21:16 |
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oleonard |
Needs signoff |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
bug number? |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
Bug 5226. |
| 21:17 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, koha, ASSIGNED , MARC21 field 545 missing |
| 21:17 |
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* rangi |
can fix that right now |
| 21:17 |
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jcamins |
The updatedatabase will not apply anymore. |
| 21:17 |
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rangi |
i can fix that too |
| 21:17 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 21:17 |
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rangi |
if you dont mind me amending your patch? |
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wizzyrea |
man I cannot wait for owen's patch to the search button on cataloging |
| 21:17 |
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jcamins |
rangi: not at all. |
| 21:17 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: what's it do? |
| 21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
it makes the save button stick at the top of the screen while the page underneath it scrolls |
| 21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
so the save button is always visible |
| 21:18 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 21:18 |
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jcamins |
That's pretty cool. |
| 21:18 |
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rangi |
oh yeah, i signed that off |
| 21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
it is MADE OF AWESOME |
| 21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
(really) |
| 21:18 |
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rangi |
its cool |
| 21:18 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
| 21:18 |
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* cait |
agrees |
| 21:19 |
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oleonard |
Bug 7135 |
| 21:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , save button options |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
earthquake |
| 21:19 |
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wahanui |
earthquake is on the news |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
oh no again? |
| 21:19 |
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ibeardslee |
ohh |
| 21:19 |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
| 21:19 |
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jcamins |
Bah. Field 581 is missing too. |
| 21:19 |
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* oleonard |
crosses his fingers |
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jcamins |
Yikes! There were 18 eathquakes in NZ since December 1. |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
yeah its pretty much constant |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ums/wel-drum.html |
| 21:27 |
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liw |
rangi, yikes |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
oo |
| 21:28 |
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NCARMichael |
Hi People. Lists...how do I control which fields appear to patrons for items in a List? |
| 21:28 |
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rhcl |
http://scistarter.com/project/[…]ou%20Feel%20It%3F |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
usgs does something similar |
| 21:28 |
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rangi |
http://xkcd.com/723/ |
| 21:28 |
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oleonard |
NCARMichael: You can't, short of customizing the template as far as I know |
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thd is now known as thd-away |
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NCARMichael |
okay, just wondered. |
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oleonard |
NCARMichael: What change were you hoping to make? |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
hehehehe |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
love that xkcd |
| 21:29 |
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indradg |
hi... what controls the display order of "libraries" if a search is performed across branches? is it the ASC sort of "library code" setup during defining a library? |
| 21:29 |
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NCARMichael |
i wanted to just have a Public Note for each item in my List that described each item. |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 21:30 |
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wizzyrea |
they are alpha usually by branch name, sometimes by branch code |
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oleonard |
NCARMichael: The trouble is a public note is an item-level bit of information and lists show biblio-level information (mostly) |
| 21:30 |
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wizzyrea |
there is no definable sort |
| 21:30 |
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rangi |
only a little one, but close and shallowish |
| 21:30 |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]uakes/latest.html |
| 21:31 |
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NCARMichael |
right |
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indradg |
wizzyrea, have a look -> http://central.tnopac.gov.in/c[…]clerical+aptitude |
| 21:31 |
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indradg |
wizzyrea, thats why I asked |
| 21:31 |
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wizzyrea |
not sure what you're getting at |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
you're sorting by relevance |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
branch doesn't really factor in to that afaik |
| 21:32 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5473] 952 fields should be filled in by Acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5473> |
| 21:32 |
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jcamins |
Only if you're searching by something that matches a branch name. |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
unless I'm missing something |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
oh right, if you search for clerical aptitude branchname |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
then it will bring back ones for that branch |
| 21:33 |
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* jcamins |
considers that the desired behavior. |
| 21:33 |
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indradg |
wizzyrea, never mind... i got it... the display order is being driven by the sort listing on the right |
| 21:33 |
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* wizzyrea |
does too |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
oh good oki |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
bug 5226 signed off |
| 21:34 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, koha, ASSIGNED , MARC21 field 545 missing |
| 21:34 |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
| 21:35 |
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* jcamins |
makes a mental note to find funding to put alternate cataloging interfaces into Koha. |
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* oleonard |
waves goodbye to all |
| 21:35 |
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rangi |
https://lh6.googleusercontent.[…]_dsc029620-01.jpg |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
from zoodoo last night |
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cait |
oh cute |
| 21:38 |
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NCARMichael |
SQL...how does one make report results hyperlinked to bibrecords? |
| 21:38 |
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NCARMichael |
Let's say I want results listed by hyperlinked title |
| 21:38 |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Links |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
CONCAT("beginning of url", biblio.biblionumber, "end of url") |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
sql reports library? |
| 21:38 |
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wahanui |
sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: :P |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
links in reports is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Links |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
links in reports? |
| 21:39 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... links in reports is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Links |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
forget links in reports |
| 21:39 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot links in reports |
| 21:40 |
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NCARMichael |
i could've figured that out myself...i just like making y'all paste links. |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
links in reports is <reply> links in reports are found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Links |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
links in reports? |
| 21:40 |
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wahanui |
links in reports are found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Links |
| 21:40 |
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indradg |
rangi, is that a racoon? |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
red panda |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
aka firefox |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
oh! |
| 21:43 |
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indradg |
aah |
| 21:43 |
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jcamins |
Hm. 242 doesn't show up. |
| 21:45 |
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wizzyrea |
is there some known issue with t/db_dependent/Search.t |
| 21:46 |
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NCARMichael |
SQL runtime parameters...apparently itemtype is not the code that will give me the item type dropdown... WHERE location = <<Location|LOC>> AND itemtype = <<Item Type|itemtype>> |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
itype maybe? |
| 21:47 |
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jcamins |
itype, I think. |
| 21:47 |
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NCARMichael |
nope |
| 21:47 |
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NCARMichael |
no workie |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
did you happen to look at the manual |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
because I know they are listed |
| 21:47 |
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NCARMichael |
maybe items.itype? |
| 21:48 |
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NCARMichael |
no |
| 21:48 |
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wizzyrea |
itemtypes |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
try |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
yes that |
| 21:49 |
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wizzyrea |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#customreport |
| 21:49 |
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sekjal |
what wizzyrea said |
| 21:49 |
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wizzyrea |
section 1.1.2 |
| 21:49 |
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NCARMichael |
bingo! |
| 21:49 |
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NCARMichael |
thx |
| 21:49 |
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wizzyrea |
the_manual++ |
| 21:49 |
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wizzyrea |
"The only supported dropdowns at this time are Branches (branches), Item Types (itemtypes) and Patron Categories (categorycode)." |
| 21:50 |
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NCARMichael |
ah, good to know |
| 21:50 |
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NCARMichael |
actually, i'm using LOC dropdown |
| 21:50 |
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wizzyrea |
it's in the manual ;) |
| 21:50 |
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NCARMichael |
shelving location |
| 21:50 |
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wahanui |
shelving location is now in italic underneath the library name. |
| 21:51 |
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wizzyrea |
authorized values work too |
| 21:51 |
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wizzyrea |
that's in the manual too. |
| 21:52 |
|
* sekjal |
wants to enable "date" support, so a little Javascript calendar can be added (instead of a dropdown) |
| 21:52 |
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sekjal |
for all those date-range queries |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
that would be cool |
| 21:57 |
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indradg |
groups in koha? |
| 21:57 |
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sekjal |
okay, time to jet. night, #koha! |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
only partially implemented iirc |
| 21:58 |
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| 21:59 |
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NCARMichael |
SQL is hard...can't get this one to work. |
| 21:59 |
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NCARMichael |
http://paste.koha-community.org/138 |
| 22:00 |
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NCARMichael |
ideally, it'd spit out a hyperlinked list for me. |
| 22:00 |
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jcamins |
NCARMichael: don't use the ExtractValue. |
| 22:00 |
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jcamins |
Use biblio.title. |
| 22:00 |
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NCARMichael |
oh, i took this from another report i had that (sort of) works...thus the ExtractValue |
| 22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
I think the report you're looking for is in the library |
| 22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
sql reports library? |
| 22:01 |
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wahanui |
sql reports library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 22:01 |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah, it is. |
| 22:01 |
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NCARMichael |
i not see it |
| 22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]brary#Items_with_.22X.22_.26_.22Y.22_ITypes |
| 22:02 |
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NCARMichael |
hm...okay, i'll plug it in. |
| 22:02 |
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wizzyrea |
that may not be exactly what you want |
| 22:03 |
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wizzyrea |
bu it's pretty close |
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rangi |
hmm how do you allow ppl to choose pre due messages i wonder, hmmm ill go check the manual |
| 22:07 |
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cait |
what's the question? |
| 22:07 |
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cait |
message preferences? |
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rangi |
well i can see prefs for item checkout |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
hold filled |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
item check in |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
advance notice |
| 22:09 |
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NCARMichael |
okay, "items with x and y itypes"...Koha won't even save it for me. Error. |
| 22:09 |
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wizzyrea |
space at the beginning? |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
but i want to let them choose pre due ones |
| 22:09 |
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NCARMichael |
let's see |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
should be in there |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
hmm |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
it's not configurable |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
which leaves |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
jquery, javascript or entries missing from the database table |
| 22:09 |
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wizzyrea |
isn't it on the patron detail |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
not loaded in from db or something |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
yeah it should be wizzyrea |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
but its not |
| 22:10 |
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NCARMichael |
ah, ok. now i'm closer. |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
should be 5 entries |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
this is an 3.2.11 one |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
advanced notice, item due, hold, check out, check in |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
but upgraded from 2.2.5 |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
should be still there |
| 22:10 |
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wizzyrea |
ohh |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
so it might have not got added |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
3.2.11 had those features |
| 22:11 |
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wizzyrea |
enhancedmessagingpreferences is on? |
| 22:11 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 22:11 |
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rangi |
i see 3 |
| 22:11 |
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rangi |
not 5 |
| 22:11 |
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cait |
message_attributes |
| 22:11 |
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wahanui |
i think message_attributes is just a list of all the patron-controllable messages in the system |
| 22:11 |
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cait |
chekc the table |
| 22:11 |
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rangi |
never mind ill figure it out its the db no doubt |
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wizzyrea |
rangi |
| 22:18 |
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wizzyrea |
I think item due is pre-due |
| 22:18 |
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NCARMichael |
still struggling here... |
| 22:18 |
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NCARMichael |
http://paste.koha-community.org/139 |
| 22:18 |
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cait |
hm no |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
item due is item due |
| 22:19 |
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NCARMichael |
how do i squeeze that concat in there |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
Advance Notice |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
pre due is advance notice |
| 22:19 |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't have pre due either |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
yep, found it in the db |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
oh advance |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
we should call it that :P |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
you can rename it, but be consistent |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
no no |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
it is called advance, not pre-due |
| 22:20 |
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* wizzyrea |
was looking for pre-due |
| 22:20 |
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wizzyrea |
derp. |
| 22:21 |
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rangi |
well its called predue in some places |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea |
NCARMichael: http://paste.koha-community.org/140 but I haven't tested it. |
| 22:22 |
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NCARMichael |
thx |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea |
oh wait |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I see a problem already |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, wait again, never mind. lol |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
rangi: it is? |
| 22:23 |
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NCARMichael |
shouldn't there be a comma after biblio.biblionumber? before CONCAT? |
| 22:23 |
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NCARMichael |
anyway, i'll test it |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
in the notices it is |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
oh |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
nstaller/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql:('circulation','PREDUE','Advance Notice of Item Due','Advance Notice of Item Due','Dear <<borrowers.firstname>> <<borrowers.surname>>,\r\n\r\nThe following item will be due soon:\r\n\r\n<<biblio.title>>, <<biblio.author>> (<<items.barcode>>)'), |
| 22:24 |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
so you assign a PREDUE to the Advanced Notice |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
just to be nice and clear and not at all confusing ;) |
| 22:24 |
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NCARMichael |
ooh! i think this is working! |
| 22:25 |
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NCARMichael |
i hate reports, until they work. |
| 22:27 |
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NCARMichael |
thank the Wiz |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Okay, time to head downtown-ish. |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Have a good night, #koha. |
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cait |
bye jcamins :) |
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jcamins_away |
Late lunch. |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell paul_p I can't seem to get test 4 of db_dependent/Search.t to complete - do I need something special in my db? |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
night :) |
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rangi |
wizzyrea++ |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: yo! |
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rangi |
i already fixed record.t |
| 23:00 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, ha |
| 23:00 |
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rangi |
on bug 7141 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
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rangi |
which was the one that changed the format :) |
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wizzyrea |
phew. |
| 23:00 |
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wizzyrea |
great minds I guess. |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
and I even signed off on that |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
wow. |
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wizzyrea |
time to go I guess lol. |
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rangi |
lol |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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huginn` |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 15.0�C (6:15 PM EST on December 07, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -3.4�C (5:23 PM CST on December 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). |
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libsysguy |
seen jcamins_away |
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wahanui |
jcamins_away was last seen on #koha 59 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: Late lunch. [Wed Dec 7 22:25:23 2011] |
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libsysguy |
seen gmcharlt |
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@later tell gmcharlt thanks for the MARC::Charset package on CPAN |
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libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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good morning |
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wizzyrea |
right so Serials.t requires at least one subscription in your test db |
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wizzyrea |
and 1 bib to attach that to. |
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rangi |
right, its probably going to have to make those then at least eh subscription |
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rangi |
eh=the |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7333] Cleaning up tests to use sample data <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7333> / [Bug 7331] Circulation.pl generates errors in the log <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7331> |
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