IRC log for #koha, 2011-10-25

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00:00 eythian cait: you're up late?
00:00 cait :P
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05:57 stuartyeates rangi: I'll be at lconz briefly (for the Māori Subject Headings talk) if you want to catch up. Or you may be busy
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06:04 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:08 stuartyeates kia ora magnuse, kei te pēhea koe?
06:08 magnuse um, sorry?
06:09 eythian hi magnuse
06:10 magnuse hiya eythian
06:10 magnuse congrats on the rugby!
06:11 eythian <-- this is my general opinion on the subject :)
06:14 magnuse good for you, eythian ;-)
06:14 eythian hehe
06:14 magnuse i'm with you, btw
06:14 eythian excellent :)
06:14 stuartyeates eythian: just like that, but with odd-shaped balls
06:15 eythian stuartyeates: you should see a doctor, maybe? ;)
06:15 magnuse lol!
06:17 * eythian is of the opinion that vim needs a ':write-my-presentation' function.
06:17 eythian I bet emacs has one.
06:17 magnuse then vim should have it too
06:18 stuartyeates i'm currently deciding whether to find myself work at a campus library with windows overlooking the ticker-tape parade route tomorrow
06:18 magnuse sounds like a good plan
06:20 eythian I think they just miss where I am. I should note what time it happens so I don't get caught up in it when I go to lunch.
06:20 magnuse even better plan ;-)
06:26 alex_a hello
06:26 eythian Speaking of better plans, I'm going to go take my laptop somewhere with fresh beer and get some presentation writing done there.
06:27 magnuse good luck eythian
06:28 eythian ta :)
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06:51 reiveune hello
06:52 stuartyeates hello reiveune
06:52 reiveune :)
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07:07 magnuse bonjour france
07:08 hdl hi magnuse
07:08 magnuse hiya hdl
07:09 rangi `
07:09 magnuse '
07:12 magnuse @wunder boo
07:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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07:13 sophie_m1 hello magnuse
07:13 magnuse bonjour sophie_m1
07:13 asaurat hi all
07:14 magnuse hi asaurat
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07:25 paul_p hello everybody
07:25 paul_p rangi: around ?
07:29 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:31 paul_p hello magnuse
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08:22 magnuse ooh, jransom reporting from india on twitter: "Sun sand mango lassi seafood masala"
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08:46 cait hi #koha
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09:08 stuartyeates the new note is at[…]U9Q/edit?hl=en_GB
09:09 stuartyeates oops, sorry, wrong channel
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09:29 magnuse guten tag cait
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09:39 cait hi magnuse :)
09:40 magnuse :-)
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09:58 jcamins_away cait: around?
09:59 magnuse 1 year ago today since kohacon10 started!
09:59 cait yep
09:59 cait magnuse: don't make me sad!
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10:00 magnuse cait: happy memories!
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10:56 kohanew on holding a book on OPAC I am having this error "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold."
10:57 kohanew book multiple copies available & showing on OPAC...
10:57 jcamins kohanew: that means you need to adjust your circulation matrix, and add a circ rule to allow the items to be placed on hold.
11:06 kohanew jcamins: many thanks for your help its working now..
11:07 jcamins Hooray!
11:10 cait jcamins++
11:11 jcamins @karma
11:11 huginn jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (423), "oleonard" (337), and "gmcharlt" (266).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-107), "failed" (-67), and "-" (-37).  You (jcamins) are ranked 12 out of 1750.
11:11 jcamins Wow! 12 out of 1750?
11:11 jcamins @karma jcamins_away
11:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
11:11 jcamins @karma jcamins
11:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 105 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 104.
11:12 * jcamins likes the fact that <! has the lowest karma.
11:19 cait :)
11:22 liw @karma liw
11:22 huginn liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18.
11:22 liw I don't even do anything for Koha :)
11:22 liw and I'm still better than XML comments
11:27 cait you are a lot better than the old comments :)
11:27 cait and you started the packages :)
11:28 jcamins liw++
11:28 cait liw++
11:28 cait @wunder Reutlingen
11:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 11.2�C (1:27 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 28.35 in 959.9 hPa (Steady).
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11:43 magnuse liw++
11:43 magnuse @wunder boo
11:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
11:43 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2�C (1:39 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady).
11:44 magnuse @wunder stavanger, norway
11:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Stavanger, Norway is 12.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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11:56 * Oak waves
11:57 cait hi Oak
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12:04 magnuse Oak
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12:16 oleonard Hi #koha
12:20 * oleonard wonders why his new vendors are being added with null ids
12:23 jcamins oleonard: strong egos?
12:23 oleonard :P
12:24 oleonard So jcamins, are you up to anything fun lately?
12:25 cait oleonard: ouch
12:25 cait oleonard: I filed a bug about search in acq - if you would take a look at that too it would be appreciated
12:26 cait not a lot of people testing acq
12:26 * oleonard dropped the table and re-added it from kohastructure.sql and it seems to work now
12:27 jcamins oleonard: "fun"? Well, I'm in the process of buying an apartment (hopefully).
12:27 jcamins Not so fun.
12:31 jcamins Also some cataloging, which is more fun. :)
12:36 * oleonard is not much of a city boy, so the phrase "buying an apartment" sounds weird
12:36 jcamins It does to me, too.
12:38 magnuse not to me ;-)
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12:44 magnuse hiya nengard!
12:45 nengard hello
12:45 wahanui hey, nengard
12:47 Oak magnuse
12:48 magnuse :-)
12:48 Oak hello cait
12:48 Oak :-)
12:48 cait hi Oak :)
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12:57 magnuse kia ora trea
13:01 trea hi manguse
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13:12 oleonard cait: Did you do any investigation of the SQL generated by an order search?
13:12 cait I am not sure how to do it :(
13:12 cait I checked the logs
13:12 cait but they were empty
13:13 oleonard I get the same results as you: A search from the quick search form works, a search from the advanced search doesn't
13:13 cait oleonard: hm and least you can reproduce
13:13 cait nicole said it worked for her yesterday
13:14 cait but not sure which title search she used
13:14 cait could you update the bug? give it another little push?
13:14 cait this is really annoying
13:14 * oleonard is going to do some more investigation
13:15 cait thx oleonard
13:15 cait are you planning to use acq?
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13:15 vfernandes Hi Koha community
13:15 cait i would really appreaciate if you could add your personal touch to the basket groups page
13:15 cait hi vfernandes
13:16 oleonard I've looked at it before, but I was confused about how it worked or what it was supposed to do
13:16 oleonard I'd be happy to look again sometime
13:16 cait I can explain how it works if that helps :)
13:16 cait lots of css in the template
13:18 oleonard If you have AcqCreateItem  set to create an item when placing an order and you don't fill out the add item form you get a nasty error
13:18 cait ah
13:18 cait yes
13:18 cait that's old
13:19 cait you need at least an item type
13:19 cait all other things you can leave empty
13:19 cait I keep filing bugs for acq... but noone cares
13:21 vfernandes which is the best way to change the code of one document type that is already in use?
13:22 cait oleonard: bug 495
13:22 huginn Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=495 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Omit numbers from marc_word table
13:22 paul_p cait: the good news is that we will start upgrading our customers in 3.6 in the next weeks/months, so we will have to deal with those bugs
13:22 cait bug 4955
13:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error
13:22 oleonard Ah, critical no less :)
13:22 cait paul_p: it's been broken for a long time, I am a bit frustrated
13:22 cait and the prospect of some more weeks/months is not helping :(
13:24 paul_p cait: for this one, we don't face it, because we have default/mandatory values at least for branch field.
13:24 cait our library is quite unhappy with it and I had hoped things would be better with 3.6 - but while testing yesterday and today I find so many things still broken
13:25 paul_p (why would one have AcqCreateItems=ordering and nothing entered as item ?)
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13:25 cait bug 6893
13:25 wahanui bug 6893 is, like, evil :(
13:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list
13:25 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
13:25 wahanui :)
13:25 oleonard paul_p: People don't always want to do things the same way. We shouldn't make assumptions
13:26 cait paul_p: the problem is people forget to enter things
13:26 oleonard ...particularly not when our assumptions can lead to errors. We should always cover error-handling.
13:26 cait paul_p: and, if you have clicked the plus sign, and leave one item form empty... booom!
13:26 paul_p oleonard: I agree. But i'd like to know what is the logic behind it. Sometimes it's also because there's no logic
13:26 cait paul_p: and i don't have to mention that the - (minus) sign that used to be there to remove an accidently added item is broken currently too
13:27 magnuse would it help to make necessary fields mandatory?
13:27 paul_p cait: as I said = in our setup, this cannot happen because the branch is mandatory, so it's filled even if the library enter nothing
13:27 cait paul_p: I can try that for the library, this bug is not so terrible as others
13:28 cait bug 6740
13:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items
13:28 oleonard cait: This orders search thing seems to come and go
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13:29 oleonard Wow, could it really be that the bug only manifests where there is only one order?
13:29 cait hm
13:30 cait werid but could be the case?
13:30 cait I have a talent for finding things like that
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13:34 oleonard No, never mind. With two orders I can find one but not the other
13:35 cait oleonard: same here
13:37 Oak hm, detective work in progress. cool.
13:39 cait oleonard++ :)
13:40 cait Oak: there is another gbsd soon - want to learn how to sign off on things? ;)
13:43 vfernandes there is any script to update the marcxml of biblioitems table after changing one column of biblioitem table directly on the database
13:43 vfernandes ??
13:46 jcamins vfernandes: not to my knowledge.
13:47 jcamins vfernandes: changing the database directly sounds like a terrible idea, for the record.
13:47 oleonard I don't get it. The query generated by the successful and unsuccessful searches are the same.
13:48 vfernandes jcamins i need to change the code of one document type, so the code must be updated in the biblioitems and items
13:49 jcamins vfernandes: I think you have to write a script to do that.
13:49 vfernandes for items there is a which synchronized the data of items table with the biblioitem marcxml
13:50 vfernandes for biblioitems there isn't nothing to sync the marcxml
13:52 jcamins vfernandes: yes, because editing the database directly would be considered dangerous.
13:52 jcamins vfernandes: I don't think there's any way to do what you want other than writing a script yourself to make the change.
13:53 vfernandes yes i know that is dangerous...
13:53 cait perhaps exporting your marc data and reimportant that would work better?
13:54 vfernandes the itemtype is only used in the following tables of database: biblioitems, items, issuinrules, deletedbiblioitems, deleteditems and itemtypes
13:55 jcamins vfernandes: also, doesn't apply to 3.4 or 3.6.
13:55 jcamins ^^ good idea
13:55 vfernandes i'm using 3.2.6 and UNIMARC so works fine...
13:56 vfernandes i'll do a script to sync the biblioitems info with the marcxml
13:59 oleonard builds the order search sql by checking "if ( defined $title )" and "if ( defined $author )" etc.
13:59 vfernandes thanks ppl for the help :)
13:59 oleonard If I change that to "if ($title)", etc. it seems to work.
13:59 cait oleonard: werid
13:59 cait weird even
14:01 oleonard But I'm not sure how the two syntaxes differ technically
14:02 cait me neither :(
14:02 cait google?
14:02 wahanui well, google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company.
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14:04 magnuse
14:05 oleonard cait, I'm guessing it's correct because the SQL generated is correct, omitting the fields which were submitted with no value
14:06 oleonard ...whereas before the SQL included checks on author, isbn, etc even though I didn't submit anything in those fields
14:07 cait that sounds reasonable
14:07 cait oleonard++
14:07 oleonard the only thing it doesn't explain is why the one query worked and the other didn't
14:08 oleonard I'll update the bug
14:08 cait thank you :)
14:08 cait but no patch with your little change?
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14:09 oleonard I can send the patch and hope someone will smack it down if I'm wrong
14:09 cait we have a qa team for that :P
14:10 * oleonard just hates to have his knuckles rapped with a ruler like that
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14:12 magnuse[…]tpj0402-0002.html
14:13 magnuse i *think* that in perl if you have $title = "", then
14:13 magnuse if ( defined $title ) => true
14:13 magnuse if ($title) => false
14:14 magnuse because when it's set to "", it *is* defined, but "" is counted as false
14:14 oleonard
14:14 oleonard "Perl users were unable to write programs more accurately than those using a language designed by chance"
14:14 nengard got a question - did i just find a bug?
14:15 oleonard nengard: Yes.
14:15 nengard I have AllowRenewalLimitOverride  set to allow and the renew checkbox is always there
14:15 nengard even if i don't click the override checkbox at the bottom
14:15 nengard and if the book is on hold it never ever gives me the checkbox to renew
14:15 nengard and i don't think i'm making any sense
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14:20 * oleonard sends a patch to the patches list and then wonders if he wasn't supposed to
14:21 nengard you're supposed to
14:21 nengard just not signed off patches
14:21 wizzyrea naw, original patches go to the list
14:21 wizzyrea what she said
14:22 cait oleonard: I think new patches is ok, it was only for sign-offs
14:22 magnuse what they said
14:22 nengard hehe
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14:22 nengard echo echo echo
14:22 magnuse :-)
14:22 Oak cait, yes!
14:23 wizzyrea nengard: I think that when you go to check out the book to the same patron again, it says "item is on hold, override renew?"
14:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7085] Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7085>
14:23 Oak sorry, i was away
14:23 nengard wizzyrea - i'll try - but it used to show a checkbox
14:23 cait yeah, i should read all of it too before answering :)
14:23 wizzyrea i'm not so sure that's true - the checkboxes have always been sketchy
14:24 nengard nope wizzyrea it didn't prompt me to check out anyway
14:24 wizzyrea then yea, it's probably a big
14:24 wizzyrea bug
14:24 wizzyrea not a big bug, just a regular one :P
14:24 Oak a big bug
14:24 * wizzyrea stops talking.
14:24 Oak oh okay
14:24 nengard Bug 7088 reported
14:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , renewal overriding funky
14:24 nengard sorry the title isn't better
14:24 wizzyrea hehe
14:25 nengard i have no idea how to describe this
14:25 wizzyrea we all need some funky in our lives.
14:25 wizzyrea
14:25 wizzyrea with extra funk
14:26 oleonard In order to test, one of the items I have checked out should be on hold for someone else?
14:26 * magnuse prefers
14:27 wizzyrea lol
14:27 wizzyrea that is beyond my imagination.
14:27 magnuse heh
14:28 wizzyrea where's trea, he would love that.
14:29 trea mmm?
14:29 wizzyrea click that last link from magnuse
14:29 oleonard nengard: The bug happens when I'm in circ, looking at a checked-out item which is on hold for someone else?
14:29 nengard yes
14:30 trea *thumbs up*
14:30 wizzyrea with AllowRenewalLimitOverride on
14:30 magnuse yay
14:30 oleonard nengard: And then what?
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14:30 oleonard Oh, I check "override renewal limit" and the checkbox doesn't appear?
14:31 nengard i was reading things a big wrong - i thought the 0 (zero) was saying no renewals allowed - but it was saying renewed 0 times ? let me update the bug
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14:32 nengard bug 7088
14:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , cannot renew items on hold even with override
14:32 nengard real title now :)
14:32 cait oleonard++
14:32 magnus_afk oleonard++
14:33 hdl anyone having that kind of message on install :
14:33 hdl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:33 hdl ERROR: Cannot copy 'misc/translator/' to 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/fr-FR/js​/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/em​otions/images/smiley-undecided.gif': est un dossier
14:33 hdl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:33 hdl ?
14:34 cait hm
14:34 cait running the translate install command?
14:35 cait I had tested a new install for german that seemed working nicely
14:35 magnus_afk never seen that
14:36 magnus_afk trying to copy a folder to a gif? weird!
14:36 * magnus_afk wanders off
14:38 hdl cait: no: it is only a make install.
14:38 hdl Which goes wild.
14:39 hdl (dev install) But it should work
14:39 hdl and it crash.
14:42 cait hmm
14:42 cait but make does not take care of translations I think?
14:44 slef magnus_afk wants people to use Google :(
14:45 slef (GBSD email)
14:45 * magnus_afk said "or something" and is always open to better suggestions
14:46 oleonard google works fine for people who use google
14:46 wizzyrea any thoughts on what would cause an entry in reserves to have no biblionumber and no itemnumber?
14:46 nengard deleting the bib record and item record after the hold was placed?
14:46 nengard no ? i guess that wouldn't touch the reserves table
14:47 wizzyrea even things with status like "waiting?!"
14:47 nengard hmmm
14:47 wizzyrea oh, the ones that have no bib# but are waiting have an itemnumber
14:47 nengard yeah seems unlikely
14:48 wizzyrea I have 72 of these such entries in my database
14:48 wizzyrea many since coming on to 3.3
14:48 wizzyrea all but 4, actually
14:49 oleonard I don't see any in our production database
14:49 wizzyrea hmm
14:49 slef magnus_afk: yeah, you suggest a closed tool, which most FOSS users don't know exactly what it does, so pushing them into the alternatives trap. :(
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14:50 wizzyrea deleting a bib could do it I guess
14:51 wizzyrea wow that's a mystery
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14:55 magnus_afk slef: what would you recommend, then??
14:56 slef magnus_afk: I don't know what you're trying to do!
14:56 slef magnus_afk: see email reply.
14:56 wizzyrea hangout is multi user video conferencing.
14:57 wizzyrea VOIP
14:57 wizzyrea + video
14:58 libsysguy i love using hangout
15:03 wizzyrea i'm not aware of a similar open solution
15:03 wizzyrea but if anyone could find one, it would be slef :)
15:03 slef jitsi?
15:05 wizzyrea requires a client, hangout is web based, but a good alternative to skype for sure
15:05 slef I didn't think web browsers could read video yet?
15:06 slef there is a similar open protocol (multi-user jingle) which I'm sure Google could complete relatively quickly, but they've done their own private system first.
15:06 slef Oh wait... is hangout part of Google+?
15:07 libsysguy yeah it is slef
15:07 slef Oh well, that's something. I thought they'd launched a second Google video conferencing system for a few minutes there.
15:08 libsysguy haha yeah you should try it out...its actually really cool...i run it on my phone sometimes
15:08 libsysguy works better than facetime :p
15:08 slef I'll be quite surprised if hangout doesn't require a flash client to send video.
15:08 wizzyrea java maybe?
15:08 wizzyrea it's been a while since I set it up
15:08 libsysguy its their own driver-ish install
15:09 libsysguy works off the same thing gtalk video does
15:09 libsysguy where you can chat in gamil
15:09 slef point is, all the video-sending tools need clients
15:09 libsysguy gmail*
15:10 oleonard Weird, I can't find a previous state where that "override renewal limit" checkbox worked even though I know it did
15:11 paul_p oleonard: rel_3_8 is here ;-)
15:11 paul_p (instead of Rel_3_8)
15:11 oleonard :D
15:11 * paul_p discovering the admin section of bugzilla. Handy and powerfull...
15:13 wizzyrea bugzilla does a ton of stuff
15:14 paul_p wizzyrea: yep, i'm playing with versions ;-)
15:14 paul_p (all ENH attached to master instead of rel_3_8. Will be switched to 3_8 once they are pushed)
15:14 wizzyrea hm, with jitsi, you have to have or know a SIP service to connect to
15:14 wizzyrea to do video or voip
15:20 ago Hi #koha!  My name is Albert Oller and I've just joined Bywater Solutions.  I don't know anything yet, but I hope to be contributing soon.
15:20 reiveune bye
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15:20 slef wizzyrea: sure, but we all have one, right? ;-) (if not, and are two)
15:20 Danielle \o
15:20 wizzyrea hi ago
15:20 wizzyrea slef: I'd guess fewer of us have one than have a google plus account :P
15:21 wizzyrea (do note, I'm not arguing with you really - of course we should prefer open solutions. Sometimes it's just not *practical*)
15:23 Danielle ago: Congratulations!
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15:24 * Danielle gets her references off to her new employer.
15:24 slef wizzyrea: probably. Because many Open Source users are frogs who happily keep sitting in the water ;-)
15:24 slef Danielle: references or referees?
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15:27 Danielle slef: Sometimes it feels like both.
15:28 oleonard Welcome, ago
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15:29 Danielle The list consists of a coworker, my manager at my last employer, and my current manager. My new employer requires that at least two of the references be current or former managers.
15:32 cait agi: hi and welcome :)
15:33 cait hm ago.. sorry
15:33 matts is now known as matts_away
15:34 oleonard Danielle: So no stealth job changes eh?
15:34 slef Danielle: yeah, I'd call them referees. What they send are references.
15:34 wizzyrea i wish there was something like for FOSS projects
15:34 wizzyrea is there one?
15:35 Danielle slef: True enough.
15:35 Danielle oleonard: That has double meaning for me... :)
15:38 slef wizzyrea: not as flashy but FSF/UNESCO directory, freshmeat, maybe (but free there = cost-free)
15:38 wizzyrea yea I just looked at alternativeto
15:39 wizzyrea i like the ratings thing on, handy
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15:39 ago <cait>: I've been called worse.
15:41 * oleonard has never heard the name Oller before
15:43 cait <cait>?
15:43 cait it sounds a bit german :)
15:47 cait ok, have to leave :) bye all!
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15:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6894] Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6894>
15:55 nengard um ? did someone close the ticket on patron attributes not being editable/addable? I can't find it anymore
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16:00 slef @query patron attributes
16:00 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2847 normal, P1, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use HTML escape in templates where appropriate
16:00 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable required option for patron attributes
16:00 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5272 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't import just patron attributes
16:00 nengard nevermind
16:00 nengard found it
16:00 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal
16:00 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5161 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron attributes clearing if error
16:00 nengard slef it was closed
16:00 nengard[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6930
16:00 huginn Bug 6930: critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add patron attributes anymore
16:00 slef was it fixed?
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16:28 nengard slef yes, sorry
16:30 slef ok, cool
16:33 francharb bye
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17:04 oleonard Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?)
17:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution
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18:02 wizzyrea sql report library?
18:02 wahanui sql report library is at[…]L_Reports_Library
18:02 wizzyrea lazy me.
18:02 nengard wizzyrea - i can be even lazier - i have firefox remember my history so all i type is sql and it pops up :)
18:02 wizzyrea hehe
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18:10 * oleonard loves the awesome bar
18:10 wizzyrea speak to me of this "awesome bar"
18:11 oleonard It's what Mozilla calls the location bar now that it pulls up history, bookmarks, etc.
18:11 wizzyrea aha
18:12 nengard[…]-about-firefox-3/
18:12 nengard i didn't know that either
18:12 wizzyrea huh. "awesome" :)
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18:15 slef aka the battery-draining CPU hog ;)
18:16 slef but when you need it, it's a useful feature
18:17 * wizzyrea muppet arms about privacy
18:17 * wizzyrea sits down
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18:20 slef heh
18:20 slef I hadn't even thought about the privacy bit
18:20 slef but my computer's relatively secure anyway
18:21 wizzyrea rather like this:[…]pet-show/kerm.gif
18:21 jwagner I frankly loathe the "awesome" bar to the extent that the first plugin I loaded was Old Location Bar -- to make it work as it used to.
18:24 slef heh, guess one of my machines needs its git config updating: "The following message to <> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 'timeout'"
18:24 slef
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18:37 cait hi #koha
18:37 wizzyrea wb cait
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18:39 oleonard cait, maybe you know the answer to this
18:39 oleonard Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?)
18:39 wahanui i already had it that way, oleonard.
18:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution
18:39 cait let me read the bus
18:40 cait bug
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18:43 cait oleonard: broken po files I think
18:43 cait if you  have errors in the po files, not all template files are created
18:43 cait when you run the script
18:43 cait and we still bundle them
18:44 cait the languages :)
18:45 cait ok
18:45 cait correction
18:45 cait we only bundle the po files, not the template files
18:46 cait oleonard: sorry, I just got home, want me to answer on the bug?
18:46 cait if it's 3.0 ther is not much we can do to fix it now
18:46 cait so I would suggest fixing the po files using poedit (we don't have 3.0 on pootle now)
18:47 melia is now known as melia_lunch
18:47 oleonard If it's necessarily 3.0-related then we can just WONTFIX it. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't still valid for a current version
19:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6832>
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19:10 smeagol Does anyone know of a good, cheap cloud to store about 2 terrabytes of data?
19:11 smeagol terabytes
19:11 smeagol terrorbytes?
19:11 wizzyrea hehe
19:13 * oleonard would hesitate to entrust 2 terabytes to anyone described as "cheap"
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19:14 cait oleonard: commented
19:14 cait magnuse++
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19:22 rhcl smeagol: a NAS out of the question? I've been pretty happy with our Seagate BlackArmor NAS 440
19:23 rhcl Ubuntu One is good for smaller storage.
19:37 * wizzyrea has 2TB on her desk, just sayin
19:48 melia_lunch is now known as melia
19:49 smeagol inexpensive..i should say..
19:50 rhcl sounded to me like wizzyrea was offering... just sayin
19:50 wizzyrea haha
19:51 wizzyrea it'd cost a lot to get here ;)
19:51 oleonard Just write out the data on a postcard and she'll transcribe it.
19:52 smeagol Yeah, well we're thinking for disaster recovery, put the data in the cloud and forget about it kind of thing..
19:52 rhcl oh, but write it out in binary for machine efficiency
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19:53 smeagol Just found out though that Amazon charges an arm and two legs if you need the data back!!!
19:54 rhcl yea, gotta watch the data transfers w/ Amazon, but really their prices aren't out of line for quality data storage
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19:56 smeagol true
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19:59 smeagol Guess I'm not looking for the caddilac version..maybe the Buick or Pontiac version...
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20:05 wizzyrea lol when did adding the library URL to the library definition make that hotlinkable in the holdings list?
20:05 * wizzyrea discovers something wonderful about koha every day
20:07 oleonard I don't know when it was added... I worked on a related bug recently which brought it to my attention
20:08 wizzyrea it's amazing
20:08 wizzyrea (I don't have them all added yet but LOOKIE: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=144044 )
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20:09 oleonard Of course now your patrons will wonder why that link doesn't point to a map of the stacks
20:09 * wizzyrea facepalm
20:09 wizzyrea s
20:09 wizzyrea but
20:09 wizzyrea it kind of does >.>
20:09 wizzyrea it at least hopefully tells you how to get to that library
20:09 wizzyrea ^.^
20:11 oleonard Heh, our call numbers used to be all "JE MAR" like that too, back when our ILS came with a data storage limit.
20:12 oleonard Hey my internet connection, should it really take 5 minutes to pull up Bugzilla search results?
20:26 wizzyrea apparently they want the call numbers to fit on the spine?
20:26 wizzyrea it's probably like cutting the end off the ham: that's how they've been told to do it for ever and ever
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20:26 wizzyrea "why did you do that?" "because the ham wouldn't fit in my pan!"
20:26 wizzyrea "I always did it because that's what grandma did!"
20:27 wizzyrea (and mom... and auntie em, and... and... and... )
20:28 oleonard Okay, all done for today. See y'all tomorrow.
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20:29 magnus_afk is now known as magnuse
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20:46 wizzyrea oh zaps can you do news items specific to language too?! That's neat!
20:56 Oak night
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20:58 smeagol Someham..over the rainbow...
20:58 bg NateC?
20:58 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
20:59 wizzyrea skies are blooooooooo
20:59 bg yay smeagol :)
20:59 bg love the name ;)
20:59 wizzyrea bg?
20:59 wizzyrea keke
21:01 smeagol Brendan..check this out..
21:01 smeagol
21:02 wizzyrea O.O
21:02 wizzyrea that is terrifying and amazing.
21:02 bg yeah that's great!
21:02 smeagol thanks
21:02 bg whois smeagol ?
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21:35 eythian stupid parade
21:35 eythian I got stuck on a stupid bus because stupid roads are closed and the bus driver didn't realise people might want to get off part way along his normal route
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21:38 wizzyrea aw
21:38 wizzyrea poor eythian
21:38 eythian I know!
21:39 cait poor eythian
21:40 eythian kill -SIGBUS -1
21:40 wizzyrea keke
21:45 Danielle o/
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