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cait: you're up late? |
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:P |
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stuartyeates |
rangi: I'll be at lconz briefly (for the MÄori Subject Headings talk) if you want to catch up. Or you may be busy |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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stuartyeates |
kia ora magnuse, kei te pēhea koe? |
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magnuse |
um, sorry? |
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eythian |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya eythian |
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magnuse |
congrats on the rugby! |
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eythian |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU <-- this is my general opinion on the subject :) |
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magnuse |
good for you, eythian ;-) |
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eythian |
hehe |
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magnuse |
i'm with you, btw |
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eythian |
excellent :) |
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stuartyeates |
eythian: just like that, but with odd-shaped balls |
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eythian |
stuartyeates: you should see a doctor, maybe? ;) |
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magnuse |
lol! |
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* eythian |
is of the opinion that vim needs a ':write-my-presentation' function. |
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eythian |
I bet emacs has one. |
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magnuse |
then vim should have it too |
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stuartyeates |
i'm currently deciding whether to find myself work at a campus library with windows overlooking the ticker-tape parade route tomorrow |
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magnuse |
sounds like a good plan |
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eythian |
I think they just miss where I am. I should note what time it happens so I don't get caught up in it when I go to lunch. |
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magnuse |
even better plan ;-) |
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alex_a |
hello |
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eythian |
Speaking of better plans, I'm going to go take my laptop somewhere with fresh beer and get some presentation writing done there. |
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magnuse |
good luck eythian |
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eythian |
ta :) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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stuartyeates |
hello reiveune |
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reiveune |
:) |
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magnuse |
bonjour france |
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hdl |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya hdl |
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magnuse |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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sophie_m1 |
hello magnuse |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m1 |
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asaurat |
hi all |
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magnuse |
hi asaurat |
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paul_p |
hello everybody |
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paul_p |
rangi: around ? |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello magnuse |
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magnuse |
ooh, jransom reporting from india on twitter: "Sun sand mango lassi seafood masala" |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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stuartyeates |
the new note is at https://docs.google.com/docume[…]U9Q/edit?hl=en_GB |
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stuartyeates |
oops, sorry, wrong channel |
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magnuse |
guten tag cait |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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jcamins_away |
cait: around? |
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magnuse |
1 year ago today since kohacon10 started! |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
magnuse: don't make me sad! |
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magnuse |
cait: happy memories! |
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kohanew |
on holding a book on OPAC I am having this error "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." |
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kohanew |
book multiple copies available & showing on OPAC... |
| 10:57 |
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jcamins |
kohanew: that means you need to adjust your circulation matrix, and add a circ rule to allow the items to be placed on hold. |
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kohanew |
jcamins: many thanks for your help its working now.. |
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jcamins |
Hooray! |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
@karma |
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huginn |
jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (423), "oleonard" (337), and "gmcharlt" (266). Lowest karma: "<!" (-107), "failed" (-67), and "-" (-37). You (jcamins) are ranked 12 out of 1750. |
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jcamins |
Wow! 12 out of 1750? |
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jcamins |
@karma jcamins_away |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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jcamins |
@karma jcamins |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 105 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 104. |
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* jcamins |
likes the fact that <! has the lowest karma. |
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cait |
:) |
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liw |
@karma liw |
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huginn |
liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
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liw |
I don't even do anything for Koha :) |
| 11:22 |
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liw |
and I'm still better than XML comments |
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cait |
you are a lot better than the old comments :) |
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cait |
and you started the packages :) |
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jcamins |
liw++ |
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cait |
liw++ |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 11.2�C (1:27 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 28.35 in 959.9 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
liw++ |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2�C (1:39 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder stavanger, norway |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Stavanger, Norway is 12.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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* Oak |
waves |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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* oleonard |
wonders why his new vendors are being added with null ids |
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jcamins |
oleonard: strong egos? |
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oleonard |
:P |
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oleonard |
So jcamins, are you up to anything fun lately? |
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cait |
oleonard: ouch |
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cait |
oleonard: I filed a bug about search in acq - if you would take a look at that too it would be appreciated |
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cait |
not a lot of people testing acq |
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* oleonard |
dropped the table and re-added it from kohastructure.sql and it seems to work now |
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jcamins |
oleonard: "fun"? Well, I'm in the process of buying an apartment (hopefully). |
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jcamins |
Not so fun. |
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jcamins |
Also some cataloging, which is more fun. :) |
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* oleonard |
is not much of a city boy, so the phrase "buying an apartment" sounds weird |
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jcamins |
It does to me, too. |
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magnuse |
not to me ;-) |
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magnuse |
hiya nengard! |
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nengard |
hello |
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wahanui |
hey, nengard |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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Oak |
hello cait |
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Oak |
:-) |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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magnuse |
kia ora trea |
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trea |
hi manguse |
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oleonard |
cait: Did you do any investigation of the SQL generated by an order search? |
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cait |
I am not sure how to do it :( |
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cait |
I checked the logs |
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cait |
but they were empty |
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oleonard |
I get the same results as you: A search from the quick search form works, a search from the advanced search doesn't |
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cait |
oleonard: hm and least you can reproduce |
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cait |
nicole said it worked for her yesterday |
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cait |
but not sure which title search she used |
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cait |
could you update the bug? give it another little push? |
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cait |
this is really annoying |
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* oleonard |
is going to do some more investigation |
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cait |
thx oleonard |
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cait |
are you planning to use acq? |
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vfernandes |
Hi Koha community |
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cait |
i would really appreaciate if you could add your personal touch to the basket groups page |
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cait |
hi vfernandes |
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oleonard |
I've looked at it before, but I was confused about how it worked or what it was supposed to do |
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oleonard |
I'd be happy to look again sometime |
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cait |
I can explain how it works if that helps :) |
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cait |
lots of css in the template |
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oleonard |
If you have AcqCreateItem set to create an item when placing an order and you don't fill out the add item form you get a nasty error |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
that's old |
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cait |
you need at least an item type |
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cait |
all other things you can leave empty |
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cait |
I keep filing bugs for acq... but noone cares |
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vfernandes |
which is the best way to change the code of one document type that is already in use? |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
oleonard: bug 495 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=495 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Omit numbers from marc_word table |
| 13:22 |
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paul_p |
cait: the good news is that we will start upgrading our customers in 3.6 in the next weeks/months, so we will have to deal with those bugs |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
bug 4955 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error |
| 13:22 |
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oleonard |
Ah, critical no less :) |
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cait |
paul_p: it's been broken for a long time, I am a bit frustrated |
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cait |
and the prospect of some more weeks/months is not helping :( |
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paul_p |
cait: for this one, we don't face it, because we have default/mandatory values at least for branch field. |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
our library is quite unhappy with it and I had hoped things would be better with 3.6 - but while testing yesterday and today I find so many things still broken |
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paul_p |
(why would one have AcqCreateItems=ordering and nothing entered as item ?) |
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cait |
bug 6893 |
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wahanui |
bug 6893 is, like, evil :( |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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oleonard |
paul_p: People don't always want to do things the same way. We shouldn't make assumptions |
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cait |
paul_p: the problem is people forget to enter things |
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oleonard |
...particularly not when our assumptions can lead to errors. We should always cover error-handling. |
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cait |
paul_p: and, if you have clicked the plus sign, and leave one item form empty... booom! |
| 13:26 |
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paul_p |
oleonard: I agree. But i'd like to know what is the logic behind it. Sometimes it's also because there's no logic |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
paul_p: and i don't have to mention that the - (minus) sign that used to be there to remove an accidently added item is broken currently too |
| 13:27 |
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magnuse |
would it help to make necessary fields mandatory? |
| 13:27 |
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paul_p |
cait: as I said = in our setup, this cannot happen because the branch is mandatory, so it's filled even if the library enter nothing |
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cait |
paul_p: I can try that for the library, this bug is not so terrible as others |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
bug 6740 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items |
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oleonard |
cait: This orders search thing seems to come and go |
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oleonard |
Wow, could it really be that the bug only manifests where there is only one order? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
werid but could be the case? |
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cait |
I have a talent for finding things like that |
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oleonard |
No, never mind. With two orders I can find one but not the other |
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cait |
oleonard: same here |
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Oak |
hm, detective work in progress. cool. |
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cait |
oleonard++ :) |
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cait |
Oak: there is another gbsd soon - want to learn how to sign off on things? ;) |
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vfernandes |
there is any script to update the marcxml of biblioitems table after changing one column of biblioitem table directly on the database |
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vfernandes |
?? |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: not to my knowledge. |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: changing the database directly sounds like a terrible idea, for the record. |
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oleonard |
I don't get it. The query generated by the successful and unsuccessful searches are the same. |
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vfernandes |
jcamins i need to change the code of one document type, so the code must be updated in the biblioitems and items |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I think you have to write a script to do that. |
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vfernandes |
for items there is a sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl which synchronized the data of items table with the biblioitem marcxml |
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vfernandes |
for biblioitems there isn't nothing to sync the marcxml |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: yes, because editing the database directly would be considered dangerous. |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I don't think there's any way to do what you want other than writing a script yourself to make the change. |
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vfernandes |
yes i know that is dangerous... |
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cait |
perhaps exporting your marc data and reimportant that would work better? |
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vfernandes |
the itemtype is only used in the following tables of database: biblioitems, items, issuinrules, deletedbiblioitems, deleteditems and itemtypes |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: also, sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl doesn't apply to 3.4 or 3.6. |
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jcamins |
^^ good idea |
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vfernandes |
i'm using 3.2.6 and UNIMARC so sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl works fine... |
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vfernandes |
i'll do a script to sync the biblioitems info with the marcxml |
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oleonard |
Acquisition.pm builds the order search sql by checking "if ( defined $title )" and "if ( defined $author )" etc. |
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vfernandes |
thanks ppl for the help :) |
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oleonard |
If I change that to "if ($title)", etc. it seems to work. |
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cait |
oleonard: werid |
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cait |
weird even |
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oleonard |
But I'm not sure how the two syntaxes differ technically |
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cait |
me neither :( |
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cait |
google? |
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wahanui |
well, google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company. |
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magnuse |
http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/defined.html |
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oleonard |
cait, I'm guessing it's correct because the SQL generated is correct, omitting the fields which were submitted with no value |
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oleonard |
...whereas before the SQL included checks on author, isbn, etc even though I didn't submit anything in those fields |
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cait |
that sounds reasonable |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
the only thing it doesn't explain is why the one query worked and the other didn't |
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oleonard |
I'll update the bug |
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cait |
thank you :) |
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cait |
but no patch with your little change? |
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oleonard |
I can send the patch and hope someone will smack it down if I'm wrong |
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cait |
we have a qa team for that :P |
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* oleonard |
just hates to have his knuckles rapped with a ruler like that |
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magnuse |
http://www.foo.be/docs/tpj/iss[…]tpj0402-0002.html |
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magnuse |
i *think* that in perl if you have $title = "", then |
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magnuse |
if ( defined $title ) => true |
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magnuse |
if ($title) => false |
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magnuse |
because when it's set to "", it *is* defined, but "" is counted as false |
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oleonard |
http://www.neverworkintheory.org/?p=197 |
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oleonard |
"Perl users were unable to write programs more accurately than those using a language designed by chance" |
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nengard |
got a question - did i just find a bug? |
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oleonard |
nengard: Yes. |
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nengard |
I have AllowRenewalLimitOverride set to allow and the renew checkbox is always there |
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nengard |
even if i don't click the override checkbox at the bottom |
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nengard |
and if the book is on hold it never ever gives me the checkbox to renew |
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nengard |
and i don't think i'm making any sense |
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* oleonard |
sends a patch to the patches list and then wonders if he wasn't supposed to |
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nengard |
you're supposed to |
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nengard |
just not signed off patches |
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wizzyrea |
naw, original patches go to the list |
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wizzyrea |
what she said |
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cait |
oleonard: I think new patches is ok, it was only for sign-offs |
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magnuse |
what they said |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
echo echo echo |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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Oak |
cait, yes! |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: I think that when you go to check out the book to the same patron again, it says "item is on hold, override renew?" |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7085] Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7085> |
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Oak |
sorry, i was away |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - i'll try - but it used to show a checkbox |
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cait |
yeah, i should read all of it too before answering :) |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not so sure that's true - the checkboxes have always been sketchy |
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nengard |
nope wizzyrea it didn't prompt me to check out anyway |
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wizzyrea |
then yea, it's probably a big |
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wizzyrea |
bug |
| 14:24 |
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wizzyrea |
not a big bug, just a regular one :P |
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Oak |
a big bug |
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* wizzyrea |
stops talking. |
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Oak |
oh okay |
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nengard |
Bug 7088 reported |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , renewal overriding funky |
| 14:24 |
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nengard |
sorry the title isn't better |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
i have no idea how to describe this |
| 14:25 |
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wizzyrea |
we all need some funky in our lives. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE |
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wizzyrea |
with extra funk |
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oleonard |
In order to test, one of the items I have checked out should be on hold for someone else? |
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* magnuse |
prefers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyvxHL5hLfE |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
that is beyond my imagination. |
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magnuse |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
where's trea, he would love that. |
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trea |
mmm? |
| 14:29 |
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wizzyrea |
click that last link from magnuse |
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oleonard |
nengard: The bug happens when I'm in circ, looking at a checked-out item which is on hold for someone else? |
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nengard |
yes |
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trea |
*thumbs up* |
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wizzyrea |
with AllowRenewalLimitOverride on |
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magnuse |
yay |
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oleonard |
nengard: And then what? |
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oleonard |
Oh, I check "override renewal limit" and the checkbox doesn't appear? |
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nengard |
i was reading things a big wrong - i thought the 0 (zero) was saying no renewals allowed - but it was saying renewed 0 times ? let me update the bug |
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nengard |
bug 7088 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , cannot renew items on hold even with override |
| 14:32 |
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nengard |
real title now :) |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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magnus_afk |
oleonard++ |
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hdl |
anyone having that kind of message on install : |
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hdl |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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hdl |
ERROR: Cannot copy 'misc/translator/' to 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/fr-FR/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif': est un dossier |
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hdl |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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hdl |
? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
running the translate install command? |
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cait |
I had tested a new install for german that seemed working nicely |
| 14:35 |
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magnus_afk |
never seen that |
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magnus_afk |
trying to copy a folder to a gif? weird! |
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* magnus_afk |
wanders off |
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hdl |
cait: no: it is only a make install. |
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hdl |
Which goes wild. |
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hdl |
(dev install) But it should work |
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hdl |
and it crash. |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
but make does not take care of translations I think? |
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slef |
magnus_afk wants people to use Google :( |
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slef |
(GBSD email) |
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* magnus_afk |
said "or something" and is always open to better suggestions |
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oleonard |
google works fine for people who use google |
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wizzyrea |
any thoughts on what would cause an entry in reserves to have no biblionumber and no itemnumber? |
| 14:46 |
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nengard |
deleting the bib record and item record after the hold was placed? |
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nengard |
no ? i guess that wouldn't touch the reserves table |
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wizzyrea |
even things with status like "waiting?!" |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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wizzyrea |
oh, the ones that have no bib# but are waiting have an itemnumber |
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nengard |
yeah seems unlikely |
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wizzyrea |
I have 72 of these such entries in my database |
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wizzyrea |
many since coming on to 3.3 |
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wizzyrea |
all but 4, actually |
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oleonard |
I don't see any in our production database |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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slef |
magnus_afk: yeah, you suggest a closed tool, which most FOSS users don't know exactly what it does, so pushing them into the alternatives trap. :( |
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wizzyrea |
deleting a bib could do it I guess |
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wizzyrea |
wow that's a mystery |
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magnus_afk |
slef: what would you recommend, then?? |
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slef |
magnus_afk: I don't know what you're trying to do! |
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slef |
magnus_afk: see email reply. |
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wizzyrea |
hangout is multi user video conferencing. |
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wizzyrea |
VOIP |
| 14:57 |
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wizzyrea |
+ video |
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libsysguy |
i love using hangout |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not aware of a similar open solution |
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wizzyrea |
but if anyone could find one, it would be slef :) |
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slef |
jitsi? |
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wizzyrea |
requires a client, hangout is web based, but a good alternative to skype for sure |
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slef |
I didn't think web browsers could read video yet? |
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slef |
there is a similar open protocol (multi-user jingle) which I'm sure Google could complete relatively quickly, but they've done their own private system first. |
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slef |
Oh wait... is hangout part of Google+? |
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libsysguy |
yeah it is slef |
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slef |
Oh well, that's something. I thought they'd launched a second Google video conferencing system for a few minutes there. |
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libsysguy |
haha yeah you should try it out...its actually really cool...i run it on my phone sometimes |
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libsysguy |
works better than facetime :p |
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slef |
I'll be quite surprised if hangout doesn't require a flash client to send video. |
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wizzyrea |
java maybe? |
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wizzyrea |
it's been a while since I set it up |
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libsysguy |
its their own driver-ish install |
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libsysguy |
works off the same thing gtalk video does |
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libsysguy |
where you can chat in gamil |
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slef |
point is, all the video-sending tools need clients |
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libsysguy |
gmail* |
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oleonard |
Weird, I can't find a previous state where that "override renewal limit" checkbox worked even though I know it did |
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paul_p |
oleonard: rel_3_8 is here ;-) |
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paul_p |
(instead of Rel_3_8) |
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oleonard |
:D |
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* paul_p |
discovering the admin section of bugzilla. Handy and powerfull... |
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wizzyrea |
bugzilla does a ton of stuff |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea: yep, i'm playing with versions ;-) |
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paul_p |
(all ENH attached to master instead of rel_3_8. Will be switched to 3_8 once they are pushed) |
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wizzyrea |
hm, with jitsi, you have to have or know a SIP service to connect to |
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wizzyrea |
to do video or voip |
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ago |
Hi #koha! My name is Albert Oller and I've just joined Bywater Solutions. I don't know anything yet, but I hope to be contributing soon. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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slef |
wizzyrea: sure, but we all have one, right? ;-) (if not, iptel.org and voipuser.org are two) |
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Danielle |
\o |
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wizzyrea |
hi ago |
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wizzyrea |
slef: I'd guess fewer of us have one than have a google plus account :P |
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wizzyrea |
(do note, I'm not arguing with you really - of course we should prefer open solutions. Sometimes it's just not *practical*) |
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Danielle |
ago: Congratulations! |
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* Danielle |
gets her references off to her new employer. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: probably. Because many Open Source users are frogs who happily keep sitting in the water ;-) |
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slef |
Danielle: references or referees? |
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Danielle |
slef: Sometimes it feels like both. |
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oleonard |
Welcome, ago |
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Danielle |
The list consists of a coworker, my manager at my last employer, and my current manager. My new employer requires that at least two of the references be current or former managers. |
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cait |
agi: hi and welcome :) |
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cait |
hm ago.. sorry |
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oleonard |
Danielle: So no stealth job changes eh? |
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slef |
Danielle: yeah, I'd call them referees. What they send are references. |
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wizzyrea |
i wish there was something like catchfree.com for FOSS projects |
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wizzyrea |
is there one? |
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Danielle |
slef: True enough. |
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Danielle |
oleonard: That has double meaning for me... :) |
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slef |
wizzyrea: not as flashy but FSF/UNESCO directory, freshmeat, maybe alternativeto.net (but free there = cost-free) |
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wizzyrea |
yea I just looked at alternativeto |
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wizzyrea |
i like the ratings thing on catchfree.com, handy |
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ago |
<cait>: I've been called worse. |
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* oleonard |
has never heard the name Oller before |
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cait |
<cait>? |
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cait |
it sounds a bit german :) |
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cait |
ok, have to leave :) bye all! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6894] Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6894> |
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nengard |
um ? did someone close the ticket on patron attributes not being editable/addable? I can't find it anymore |
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slef |
@query patron attributes |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2847 normal, P1, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use HTML escape in templates where appropriate |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable required option for patron attributes |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5272 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't import just patron attributes |
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nengard |
nevermind |
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nengard |
found it |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5161 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron attributes clearing if error |
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nengard |
slef it was closed |
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nengard |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6930 |
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huginn |
Bug 6930: critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add patron attributes anymore |
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slef |
was it fixed? |
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nengard |
slef yes, sorry |
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slef |
ok, cool |
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francharb |
bye |
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oleonard |
Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution |
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wizzyrea |
sql report library? |
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wahanui |
sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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wizzyrea |
lazy me. |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - i can be even lazier - i have firefox remember my history so all i type is sql and it pops up :) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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* oleonard |
loves the awesome bar |
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wizzyrea |
speak to me of this "awesome bar" |
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oleonard |
It's what Mozilla calls the location bar now that it pulls up history, bookmarks, etc. |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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nengard |
http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2[…]-about-firefox-3/ |
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nengard |
i didn't know that either |
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wizzyrea |
huh. "awesome" :) |
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slef |
aka the battery-draining CPU hog ;) |
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slef |
but when you need it, it's a useful feature |
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* wizzyrea |
muppet arms about privacy |
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* wizzyrea |
sits down |
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slef |
heh |
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slef |
I hadn't even thought about the privacy bit |
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slef |
but my computer's relatively secure anyway |
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wizzyrea |
rather like this: http://www.gifmania.co.uk/tv-s[…]pet-show/kerm.gif |
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jwagner |
I frankly loathe the "awesome" bar to the extent that the first plugin I loaded was Old Location Bar -- to make it work as it used to. |
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heh, guess one of my machines needs its git config updating: "The following message to <patches koha.org> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 'timeout'" |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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wizzyrea |
wb cait |
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oleonard |
cait, maybe you know the answer to this |
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oleonard |
Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, oleonard. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution |
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cait |
let me read the bus |
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cait |
bug |
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cait |
oleonard: broken po files I think |
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cait |
if you have errors in the po files, not all template files are created |
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cait |
when you run the script |
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cait |
and we still bundle them |
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cait |
the languages :) |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
correction |
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cait |
we only bundle the po files, not the template files |
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cait |
oleonard: sorry, I just got home, want me to answer on the bug? |
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cait |
if it's 3.0 ther is not much we can do to fix it now |
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cait |
so I would suggest fixing the po files using poedit (we don't have 3.0 on pootle now) |
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oleonard |
If it's necessarily 3.0-related then we can just WONTFIX it. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't still valid for a current version |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6832> |
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smeagol |
Does anyone know of a good, cheap cloud to store about 2 terrabytes of data? |
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smeagol |
terabytes |
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smeagol |
terrorbytes? |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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* oleonard |
would hesitate to entrust 2 terabytes to anyone described as "cheap" |
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cait |
oleonard: commented |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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rhcl |
smeagol: a NAS out of the question? I've been pretty happy with our Seagate BlackArmor NAS 440 |
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rhcl |
Ubuntu One is good for smaller storage. https://one.ubuntu.com/ |
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has 2TB on her desk, just sayin |
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smeagol |
inexpensive..i should say.. |
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rhcl |
sounded to me like wizzyrea was offering... just sayin |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
it'd cost a lot to get here ;) |
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oleonard |
Just write out the data on a postcard and she'll transcribe it. |
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smeagol |
Yeah, well we're thinking for disaster recovery, put the data in the cloud and forget about it kind of thing.. |
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oh, but write it out in binary for machine efficiency |
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smeagol |
Just found out though that Amazon charges an arm and two legs if you need the data back!!! |
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rhcl |
yea, gotta watch the data transfers w/ Amazon, but really their prices aren't out of line for quality data storage |
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smeagol |
true |
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smeagol |
Guess I'm not looking for the caddilac version..maybe the Buick or Pontiac version... |
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wizzyrea |
lol when did adding the library URL to the library definition make that hotlinkable in the holdings list? |
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discovers something wonderful about koha every day |
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oleonard |
I don't know when it was added... I worked on a related bug recently which brought it to my attention |
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wizzyrea |
it's amazing |
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wizzyrea |
(I don't have them all added yet but LOOKIE: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=144044 ) |
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oleonard |
Of course now your patrons will wonder why that link doesn't point to a map of the stacks |
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facepalm |
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wizzyrea |
s |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
it kind of does >.> |
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wizzyrea |
it at least hopefully tells you how to get to that library |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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oleonard |
Heh, our call numbers used to be all "JE MAR" like that too, back when our ILS came with a data storage limit. |
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oleonard |
Hey my internet connection, should it really take 5 minutes to pull up Bugzilla search results? |
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wizzyrea |
apparently they want the call numbers to fit on the spine? |
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wizzyrea |
it's probably like cutting the end off the ham: that's how they've been told to do it for ever and ever |
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wizzyrea |
"why did you do that?" "because the ham wouldn't fit in my pan!" |
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wizzyrea |
"I always did it because that's what grandma did!" |
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wizzyrea |
(and mom... and auntie em, and... and... and... ) |
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oleonard |
Okay, all done for today. See y'all tomorrow. |
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wizzyrea |
oh zaps can you do news items specific to language too?! That's neat! |
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night |
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smeagol |
Someham..over the rainbow... |
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bg |
NateC? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
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wizzyrea |
skies are blooooooooo |
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bg |
yay smeagol :) |
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bg |
love the name ;) |
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wizzyrea |
bg? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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smeagol |
Brendan..check this out.. |
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smeagol |
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/gollum |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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wizzyrea |
that is terrifying and amazing. |
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yeah that's great! |
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smeagol |
thanks |
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bg |
whois smeagol ? |
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eythian |
stupid parade |
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eythian |
I got stuck on a stupid bus because stupid roads are closed and the bus driver didn't realise people might want to get off part way along his normal route |
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wizzyrea |
aw |
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wizzyrea |
poor eythian |
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eythian |
I know! |
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cait |
poor eythian |
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eythian |
kill -SIGBUS -1 |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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o/ |
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