IRC log for #koha, 2011-10-17

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02:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533>
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03:21 sekhar hallo..
03:21 sekhar looking for help in setting up fines and circulation rules?
03:21 sekhar any volunteers?
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03:34 Amit_Gupta heya chris
03:34 Amit_Gupta good morning all ;)
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04:42 cait good morning #koha
04:42 eythian hi cait
04:43 cait hi eythian :)
05:02 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:02 eythian @later tell Judit Bug 7028 is ready for your testing :D
05:02 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:02 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:02 cait bug 7028
05:02 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating
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05:08 jransom Hi everyone.
05:08 jransom WOuld anyone hear know how many people have registered for KohaCon11?
05:09 cait hi jo :)
05:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7028] koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7028>
05:16 jransom Heya katrin
05:17 * eythian is publishing new koha packages from master
05:18 eythian goodness our internet is going fast today.
05:18 cait eythian: ah, that will make some people happy :)
05:19 eythian hopefully, yeah
05:27 jransom Robin: what date are you flying into Mumbai and where are you staying?
05:27 jransom (I am leaving on Saturday and we should arrange a meeting spot)
05:27 eythian I arrive on the evening of the 29th, and staying at vihang's.
05:27 jransom excellent
05:27 jransom so Vihnags housebar on the 29th it is then :)
05:28 jransom we get in the day before
05:28 eythian Well, I land at 11pm, so I'll probably just want to sleep by then :)
05:28 jransom oh yes .... breakfast then :)
05:28 jransom i'llleave a message at desk with our room number
05:29 eythian yeah :) oh, I just discovered I have a spare day, I thought the conf started on the 30th.
05:29 jransom doubt my phone will be used much but there is always twitter
05:29 * eythian doesn't twit
05:29 jransom what a bonus - a spare day
05:29 eythian I do use though
05:30 jransom on posts from that to twitter i think ..
05:30 jransom and chris too
05:30 jransom Don (i meant)
05:30 eythian though, I don't know that I'll have data there anyway.
05:30 eythian Yeah, but you still need an account, which I don't have :)
05:30 jransom OMG - imaging a life without my cellphone ...
05:30 jransom like in the olden days: making arrangements to meet and sticking to them!
05:31 cait jransom: hope you and others will tweet a lot :)
05:31 eythian I'm going to see about picking up a prepay sim card when I'm there.
05:31 jransom good idea
05:31 eythian those kinds of places often seem to have pretty good deals compared to us.
05:31 jransom thats true
05:31 jransom phew ...
05:31 eythian e.g. in Malysia it was about $1 for 24 hours of data, which was perfect for staying for a week.
05:32 jransom SIM cards are quite cheap, about 150-200 Rupees. But you should know that if you are TRAVELLING around India that you can only recharge your card (for most of the providers) in the area where you bought it!
05:33 jransom we shall have to read fine print!
05:33 jransom[…]s-networks-t8434/
05:33 eythian ah, useful
05:34 jransom or this:[…].php?ID=LSIM-IN02
05:34 jransom but definitely cheaper than the price gouging which will happen if Telecom involved
05:34 eythian yeah. My vodafone roaming data rates are hideous also
05:35 jransom oh: This service requires registration BEFORE YOU TRAVEL.
05:35 jransom wonder how dodgy that is ...
05:36 eythian also out of stock
05:36 eythian but I think asking a local to find a good company and picking one up there is likely to work
05:36 jransom yeah: please supply copy of passpotrt scared me off that site pretty quick ...
05:37 eythian heh yes
05:38 jransom I am so SO excited about this: always wanted to go to India
05:39 eythian it should be fun. I also have to go to Australia for two more conferences within a week of getting back.
05:39 jransom ah yes - but thats just over the ditch -nowhere near as exciting
05:40 eythian no, not so much. Though, by the end of all that I'm going to be so sick of planes.
05:40 eythian on the flip side, my airpoints card will be happy
05:40 jransom indeed they will :)
05:41 jransom Samoa for Xmas perhaps
05:41 eythian that'll be fun
05:41 eythian a workmate just got back from there. She had a tan.
05:42 jransom :)
05:43 jransom yay - my trademe auction just sold for asking price : I have spending money for India!
05:43 eythian awesome :)
05:43 jransom tequila on the beach with Brooke :)
05:43 eythian that's what you sold on Trademe?
05:43 jransom no - thats what I'm buying with the proceeds
05:44 eythian ah right :)
05:46 jransom off home - night night
05:46 eythian cya
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06:07 ropuch Morning #koha
06:13 cait morning ropuch :)
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06:18 magnuse kia ora #koha
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06:37 cait fredericd++
06:37 cait morning magnuse
06:37 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:38 cait and alex_a1 :)
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06:46 reiveune hello
06:46 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:46 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:47 reiveune hi magnuse :)
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06:50 magnuse kia ora paul_p
06:51 paul_p hello (just for a few minuts here : will catch a train in 20mn...
06:51 paul_p )
06:52 paul_p rangi: so it will be F-NZ... I see 2 options : either NZ wins easilly, or the match is very hard and will end with a score like 12-11 or 13-15
06:52 paul_p I can't imagine France beating you easily ;-)
06:52 magnuse you do get the impression nz wants to win the whole thing... ;-)
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06:59 alex_a1 paul_p, 3rd option: france wins thanks to the referee ;)
06:59 alex_a1 oups ...
06:59 paul_p alex_a1: frankly, and without being too friendly with rangi I don't want this solution. I want to win only if it's not stolen.
07:00 alex_a1 paul_p: i want too
07:00 paul_p magnuse: i'm just thinking France can't win easily. We can win, but not with a large score (unless a referee uses 2 red cards. Because only one won't be enough ;-) )
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07:33 kf morning #koha
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07:36 kf morning asaurat and kmkale
07:36 kmkale Namaskaar #koha :)
07:36 francharb morning #koha
07:37 kmkale Namaste kf
07:38 asaurat hi!
07:38 kf hi francharb :)
07:38 magnuse namaste kmkale
07:40 kmkale Namaste magnuse :)
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07:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7041] Sort >1000 search results with sortmax parameter in zebra config file <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7041>
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09:11 Rima how can i include koha into my site?
09:13 kf Rima: I am sorry Rima, I am not sure what you want to do
09:13 Rima I have downloaded koha
09:14 Rima now i include koha into a website from where i can manage library
09:14 Rima for this reason what should i do?
09:15 kf where did you download koha from
09:15 kf ?
09:15 kf have you followed the install instructions?
09:15 Rima
09:15 kf ok
09:15 kf you haven't downloaded Koha then
09:16 kf this is a fork from older Koha code - if you want to run Koha yourself you might want to download the software from
09:16 Rima i have got install instruction for  Koha Offline Circulation Client
09:17 Rima but i need instruction for executing koha in website
09:17 kf you will not get help for this fork of Koha on the mailing lists and in the channel here
09:17 kf the instructions are provided within the koha taball, there are instruction files named INSTALL.*
09:18 kf and there are also instructions on the koha wiki,
09:18 kf if you are using debian or ubuntu you can use packages to install KOha
09:18 Rima I am using linux based server
09:20 Rima Now i am downloading koha from http://download.koha-community[…]ha-3.04.05.tar.gz this link
09:20 kf Rima: is it your own server?
09:22 Rima yes
09:22 kf which os?
09:22 wahanui which os are you using?
09:22 Rima windows xp
09:23 Rima I need complete step by step instruction for using koha into our website
09:24 kf you can't install koha under windows xp - I think you are talking about your desktop? Koha is accessed through a browser, but the server where it's installed on should run Linux
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09:25 Rima are u asking me about server?
09:25 Rima not desktop?
09:25 kf yes, your server
09:26 Rima yes our server is linux based
09:26 ropuch Rima: koha works in client-server model
09:26 ropuch So if you want to run get it working, you need to set up koha server
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09:27 ropuch After unpacking koha-3.04.05.tar.gz you will find few INSTALL files for different linxu distribution
09:27 Rima but how?
09:27 ropuch How to unpack tar.gz?
09:27 Rima no
09:28 Rima After unpacking what should i do?
09:28 ropuch What linux distribution you have on your server?
09:29 Rima what linux distribution means?
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09:30 ropuch Linux is general name for a whole 'family' of system
09:30 Rima we use ixwebhosting server
09:31 ropuch Do you have any IT department/
09:32 Rima yes
09:33 Rima i have unpacked koha 3.04.05.tar.gz
09:33 Rima now i am seeing several install file that is install.debian etc
09:34 ropuch So I advice you to point them to
09:34 ropuch You need root acces to your server and some basic understanding of linux
09:35 ropuch They should find all information they'll need in those install files
09:36 ropuch And I'n not sure what ixwebhosting server you actually have, so I can't help you atm.
09:36 Rima root access means root access of the site where i want to include koha??
09:36 ropuch Not really, I means admin privileges to your server
09:37 Rima yes i have
09:38 ropuch OK, so log into your root account type in
09:38 ropuch uname -a
09:38 ropuch And paste teh result
09:39 Rima but i use server in graphics mode
09:39 ropuch Nah
09:39 Rima i have an account in ixwebhosting server
09:40 ropuch I assume you have acces to web server only, some phpmydamin at best
09:40 ropuch And then I assume you don;t have shell account on this server
09:40 Rima yes you are right
09:41 Rima i don't have shell account
09:41 ropuch So you can;t install Koha on that account
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09:41 Rima Is it possible to install koha who have shell permission on the server??
09:42 Rima against my account?
09:42 ropuch Probably, but you need root privileges, not just "shell access"
09:43 ropuch You should pass this to your IT department, really
09:44 Rima ok
09:44 Rima Thank You
09:44 ropuch Rima:[…]u-810-a-tutorial/
09:45 ropuch There is a simple (but still technical) howto
09:46 Rima ok
09:47 ropuch At least you will see how installation process lokks like ;)
09:47 ropuch s/lokk/looks
10:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7042] Improving handling quotes in a_session and interpreting sessdays parameter <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7042>
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10:21 kivilahtio Hello #Kohasters
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10:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4877] Create and update the manual pages for the koha-* scripts. <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877>
10:39 magnuse hiya kivilahtio
10:47 magnuse @arewethereyet
10:47 wahanui @arewethereyet is, like, counting down the days until release
10:47 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 5 days
10:47 huginn wahanui: (arewethereyet [<channel>]) -- Let us know if we've reached Koha 3.6 yet.
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11:05 kf oleonard: around?
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11:52 kivilahtio hey what is the case with acquisitions module. When I try to order new items from and existing biblio, systems says I don't have a ACQ-framework even if I just made such a Marc Framework based on the Default one.
11:52 kivilahtio Frameworkcode = ACQ
11:54 kivilahtio It seems I needed to go to marcedit view of the new ACQ framework to actually generate it.
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13:23 rangi im in your continent messing with your light switches north america
13:25 oleonard Hi rangi
13:25 oleonard With you here who's going to push patches while I'm sleeping? :)
13:26 * oleonard loves waking up to pushed patches
13:26 rangi hehe
13:26 rangi probably wont be many more pushed between now and release
13:26 rangi gets to the too dangerous stage
13:27 rangi but i will push a few on wednesday, while at the hackfest
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13:28 kf hmhm
13:28 kf someone willing to sign off on that basket patch?
13:29 kf speaking about patches?
13:29 kf pleeease?
13:29 kf bug 6390
13:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
13:29 * oleonard would love to see the bulk biblio mod patch make it if we can get the last few questions answered
13:30 rangi there are 10 in passed qa
13:30 rangi i think 4 i will leave for 3.6.1
13:31 rangi but the other 6 ill push, and will evalutate any more that get passed qa between now an wednesday night vancouver time
13:31 kf seeekjal!
13:31 kf hehe
13:32 rangi then i have to get all the .po files in
13:32 kf nah, will be nice
13:32 rangi write release notes
13:32 rangi do lots of testing, panic if any core features misbehave
13:32 rangi :)
13:32 rangi and release
13:33 kf no panic!
13:33 kf all will be well
13:34 rangi :)
13:34 rangi panic in an RM is a good thing
13:34 rangi keeps you on your toes
13:34 jcamins_away Wow... having rangi online in the morning is weird.
13:34 rangi hehe
13:34 kf yeah it is
13:34 kf in the afternoon!
13:34 oleonard Doesn't it make you want to yell at him to get back to bed?
13:34 jcamins_away ... isn't it awfully early in Vancouver?
13:34 rangi 6.30am
13:35 rangi i fell asleep at 7pm tho
13:35 oleonard Not too early to get up, just too early to be at work
13:35 rangi cos i had been awake 37 hours at that point
13:35 magnuse ouch
13:35 oleonard Not even a nap in there somewhere?
13:35 rangi otoh nz won and htey gave us lots of sparkling wine to celebrate on the plane
13:36 magnuse hehe
13:36 rangi i think i dozed off and whiplashed my neck a few times
13:36 magnuse when is the final?
13:36 * oleonard was trying to think of what circumstances would prompt an American airline to break out the bubbly... couldn't.
13:36 rangi but once i landed i tried to stay awake til night
13:36 rangi magnuse: 1am sunday morning vancouver time
13:37 magnuse hehe, will you stay awake for it?
13:37 rangi what kind of question is that???
13:37 rangi of course!!
13:38 rangi i had the librarians here research me places to watch it :)
13:39 magnuse moahaha ;-)
13:40 rangi nz vs france in the final
13:40 rangi its a repeat of 24 years ago
13:40 rangi the last time we won the world cup
13:40 magnuse yay!
13:42 kf :)
13:47 * rangi goes to look at a map
13:49 rangi looks to me like i just walk south and ill end up at stanley park
13:49 kf don't get lost mr rm
13:49 kf ;)
13:50 rangi hehe
13:51 rangi ok, off to explore bbl
13:51 nengard enjoy
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14:10 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7044] branch selector in OPAC not selecting <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7044>
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14:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7045] Default-value substitution inconsistent <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7045>
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14:49 kf sekjal: around?
14:57 nengard sekjal is out this morning
15:13 nengard slow monday morning here ? where is everyone?
15:13 rhcl I here
15:14 oleonard I busy
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15:29 kf nengard: ah, will he be around later?
15:29 nengard i think so - i'll check my calendar in a sec
15:29 nengard testing druthb's patch
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15:34 nengard kf my calendar says he should be back any minute now :)
15:34 nengard but he was out getting medical stuff for KohaCon so it might be longer than he expected
15:36 kf oh
15:37 kf nengard: I wanted to ask him about 2 bugs... so I can understand if he wants to hide :)
15:37 nengard hehe - i promise he's not hiding and would probably rather be here than at the doctor :)
15:37 kf I believe you :)
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15:39 rhcl In this command: $ git remote add pb git://   - is pb just an alias for what follows?
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15:40 reiveune bye
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15:40 nengard libsysguy1! :)
15:40 libsysguy1 there he goes again
15:40 libsysguy1 nengard!!
15:40 wahanui nengard is, like, fast
15:40 nengard hehe
15:40 libsysguy1 what are you guys up to this morning
15:41 nengard work :)
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15:41 kf rhcl: I think so - the name you want to use for it
15:41 nengard there's sekjal :)
15:41 kf hi sekjal :)
15:41 kf do you want cookies?
15:41 sekjal hi, everyone
15:41 kf nengard: ooooh... can I bribe you too?
15:41 nengard bribe me for what?
15:41 kf nengard: I reworked the basket permission patch
15:41 kf nengard: and now... I can't sign off on it
15:42 nengard bug #?
15:42 kf bug 6390
15:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
15:42 libsysguy1 sekjal I got that branch merged for you
15:42 sekjal libsysguy1:  I see it.  I'm pulling it down today
15:42 libsysguy1 awesome
15:42 sekjal (was out this morning getting my immunizations for KohaCon)
15:43 libsysguy1 its up to date as of saturday
15:43 kf sekjal: bug 5680... could you take a look at it?
15:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5680 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , When deleting an order, delete attached items, and if applicable biblio
15:43 kf I am wy behind testing
15:43 nengard kf i can try to test that one - i usually only saw it on partner's machines when i trained them and never on mine - so i need to do some testing to cause the bug on mine first :)
15:43 kf nengard: what you need is: one basket that you own, one from another branch, one from another user
15:43 kf nengard: then toggle the syspref around
15:44 kf nengard: if you have superlibrarian permission you shoudl always see all baskets - no matter how your syspref is set
15:44 nengard that's probably why i never saw it on my system :)
15:44 nengard k will go test now
15:44 kf nengard: if you are not superlibrarian, only those you created, or those from your branch, or all (according to system preference)
15:44 nengard now i have an assignment for you kf :)
15:44 kf nengard: yep, but my libraries are not superlibraians
15:44 kf they don't like how it currently works at all
15:44 nengard I need video ideas for my videos for patrons series, i only have 1 more idea and i need to do a bunch this week
15:45 kf nengard: I will think about it :)
15:45 kf sekjal: rangi said all that gets through qa until wednesday he will consider... :(
15:45 sekjal so I only have until Wednesday, eh?
15:45 * sekjal gets on it
15:45 kf (15:29:48) rangi: but the other 6 ill push, and will evalutate any more that get passed qa between now an wednesday night vancouver time
15:46 kf I have 4 on my wish list...
15:46 nengard actually kf - more urgent need - report help
15:46 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "possible to edit?" (10 lines) at
15:46 kf the basket permissions thing I asked nicole to test, christophe's patch for deleting/cancelling orders, barcode on receive (have to retest the new patch from srdjan) and a patch for overdues that has an untested follow-up
15:47 kf waah! not to mention I have to finish an important project at work this week
15:47 kf hmpf :)
15:47 kf nengard: shoot :)
15:47 nengard "nengard" at pasted "possible to edit?" (10 lines) at
15:47 kf hm
15:48 kf can you rephrase the question?
15:48 nengard They would like to see one row with the count of statistics.type=localuse and one with the sum of count from statitics.type renew, issue, return
15:49 nengard now it shows a count from localuse in one row, issue in another, renew in another, etc etc
15:50 kf ah
15:50 kf I have issue, renew and return
15:50 kf no localuse value yet
15:50 kf I think you could do a union
15:50 kf to make it display
15:50 kf ok, first row should be what?
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15:52 nengard doesn't matter to me what order it's in - first row is localuse - second is all others
15:52 kf and all others summed together?
15:52 kf the renewals, issues and returns?
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15:54 nengard yes kf
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15:55 nengard and question about bug 6390 - i'm on MASTER right now and I am logged in as a librarian with aquisitions permissions (not superlibrarian) but before applying the patch I see the basket created by the superlibrarian with no problems ?.
15:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
15:58 kf perhaps like this?
15:58 kf superlibrarian = your own userß
15:58 kf ?
15:58 kf you will always see your own
15:58 kf ah
15:58 kf yes, robin changed something
15:59 kf so it might not work now as it is described on the bug
15:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7043] masthead_search id used twice in template <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7043>
15:59 kf but the test plan should still work
15:59 nengard okey dokey
15:59 nengard will continue to test
15:59 kf nengard: thx for 7043 :) now you can change the width of that using css! yay! :)
16:00 nengard :)
16:00 nengard thanks oleonard
16:00 nengard i just tested it :)
16:00 kf oleonard++ nengard++ :)
16:00 kf easy
16:00 nengard :)
16:01 kf can you check the sql? I don't have localuse, so I put in renewal for testing
16:01 kf read over it and change the conditions a bit perhaps
16:01 kf hmhmhm
16:02 kf sec
16:04 kf nengard: moved your conditions outside -
16:04 nengard was just trying to do that :)
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16:05 nengard ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'statistics.datetime' in 'where clause'
16:05 kf ah
16:05 kf make it only datetime
16:06 kf and if that does not work, stat_summary.datetime
16:06 nengard ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'branch' in 'where clause'
16:06 nengard hmmm
16:06 kf same
16:07 kf stat.summary.datetime
16:07 kf stat_summary.datetime - will hopefully work
16:07 nengard ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'stat_summary.branch' in 'where clause'
16:07 kf grr
16:07 nengard yuh huh
16:07 kf is yuh huh you fixed it? :)
16:07 nengard no - yuh huh - grrrrr
16:08 nengard branch works in the other queries
16:09 kf looking at it
16:10 kf confusing
16:11 kf oh
16:11 kf I know why
16:11 kf as count...
16:11 kf I forgot to move that back into the right place
16:13 kf ok
16:13 kf I think I got it, sec
16:15 kf nengard: I named the columns, hope that fixes it SELECT action, count
16:15 kf FROM
16:15 kf (select s1.type AS action, COUNT(s1.datetime) as count, s1.datetime as dt, s1.branch as br
16:15 kf from statistics s1
16:15 kf -- WHERE
16:15 kf -- DATE(statistics.datetime)=<<Date>> and branch="LUBBOCK"
16:15 kf -- AND time(datetime) BETWEEN <<Time BETWEEN (hh:mm)>> AND <<and (hh:mm)>>
16:15 kf where type = "renew"
16:15 kf union
16:15 kf SELECT 'returns, issues, renewals' AS action, COUNT(s2.datetime) as count, s2.datetime as dt, s2.branch as br
16:15 kf from statistics s2
16:15 kf where
16:15 kf s2.type not in ('localuse')
16:15 kf ) as stat_summary
16:15 kf WHERE
16:15 kf br = "LUBBOK"
16:15 kf AND DATE(dt)=<<Date>>
16:15 kf AND time(dt) BETWEEN <<Time BETWEEN (hh:mm)>> AND <<and (hh:mm)>>
16:15 kf ugh
16:15 kf
16:17 kf perhaps it's time to leave and go home...
16:18 nengard kf - no errors on that one! we'll see if it works for them
16:18 nengard and i signed off on bug 6390
16:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:18 kf ok!
16:18 kf and thx for your sign-off :)
16:21 nengard thank you for the report help!!
16:22 sekjal go team Koha!
16:23 nengard :)
16:23 kf go team koha! :)
16:26 sekjal 6390 passed
16:27 kf yay!
16:28 kf one off my list, remaining 4 :)
16:28 kf but 6390
16:28 kf bug 6390
16:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:28 kf remaining 3...
16:29 kf sekjal: 5680 is the next waiting for qa... the other 2 need more work and testing
16:29 kf I think some design work from owen would be good, but it would fix some easy to make mistake
16:29 kf that when you delete/cancel orders the items remain
16:29 sekjal kf:  I've got 5680 open, but I'm going to get Hourly Loans set up on my test machine first
16:30 kf ok :)
16:30 kf hope that works too - woudl be a nice addition, not easy to test
16:30 * sekjal is feeling increasingly 'blah' since getting shot full of typhoid
16:30 sekjal oddly enough
16:30 kf you are not the only one
16:30 kf typhoid seems to be mean
16:35 * sekjal should probably turn off mod_perl before testing hourly loans
16:35 * kf sends more cookies
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16:51 libsysguy1 sekjal why should you turn off mod perl
16:52 libsysguy1 sorry i seem to be late on that one
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16:55 sekjal libsysguy1:  scientific method
16:55 sekjal if I encounter any strangeness, I should be sure it's definitely coming from Hourly Loans, not possibly from my mod_perl testing
16:55 libsysguy gotcha
16:55 sekjal which, btw, is actually going pretty well
16:55 libsysguy most excellent
16:55 libsysguy so you were able to pull ok?
16:56 sekjal yes, I've got your reconciled code, and I'm working on adding values to Circ Rules now
16:56 sekjal first problem I'm seeing:  unit type is free text
16:56 libsysguy ugh I know
16:56 libsysguy i didn't want to fix that until after it was in...should be a simple change
16:57 sekjal should be.  just something on the Template level
16:57 sekjal and a little logic on the backend to provide a default value
16:57 sekjal in the event the form gets submitted with invalid terms
16:58 libsysguy yeah I've submitted with incorrect terms
16:58 libsysguy 1 hour instead of 1 hours
16:58 libsysguy frustrating
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17:04 sekjal libsysguy:  where do I set library hours?
17:04 sekjal the calendar doesn't seem any different to me
17:05 libsysguy I'm not sure that option is provided yet
17:05 libsysguy i haven't seen it
17:06 sekjal that's necessary for figuring out due times.
17:06 libsysguy i think it does a calculation based on the checkout time
17:07 sekjal there is a big section of the RFC on how to handle various situations around library closed times
17:08 libsysguy hmm
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17:10 libsysguy yeah I really don't think it is might ask Colin
17:11 libsysguy maybe I am a little confused but I thought we wanted to break this down some
17:12 sekjal libsysguy:  so your 1 hour loan materials are due EXACTLY 60 minutes after they're checked out, even if you're closed at that time?
17:13 libsysguy thats how it is now yes
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17:14 libsysguy I was really viewing this as a basline for hourly loans
17:14 libsysguy its already a massive patch that needs a lot of tweaking
17:14 libsysguy but im probably off base
17:15 sekjal it doesn't seem to implement much of the RFC at all
17:16 libsysguy but it does add (basically) everything we needed here to get houly loans running
17:16 libsysguy why not tackle all the cases in the rfc as individual enhancements?
17:18 sekjal I suppose that's one way to approach it
17:18 sekjal I was hoping that the code so far was.... further along.
17:19 libsysguy understandable
17:19 sekjal if I can verify that the modifications so far can be safely ignored with some set of configurations, then we can mark this as a limited, experimental feature for now, and continue to build on it in parts
17:20 libsysguy I think that would be a good idea
17:20 libsysguy that way it is in master and can be easily maintained and worked on without it falling behind again
17:21 libsysguy and it will give other libraries the chance to test it
17:21 libsysguy and hopefully attract some more academic libraries
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17:21 kf bye all, see you later for more testing fun :)
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17:26 sekjal libsysguy:  what's a High Hold?
17:27 libsysguy I'm assuming your refering to Koha :p
17:27 sekjal :)  yes
17:27 libsysguy I haven't run across that
17:27 sekjal new C4::Circulation subroutine, CheckHighHolds
17:27 sekjal references a couple sysprefs I can't find
17:28 libsysguy ohhh
17:28 libsysguy that function checks to see the frequency in which holds are being placed
17:29 libsysguy to see how many times you are allowed to renew
17:29 libsysguy I think...
17:29 libsysguy and how long you can checkout
17:29 libsysguy does that make sense
17:29 sekjal not yet
17:29 libsysguy heh
17:30 libsysguy ok so if there are 20 holds on an item...the next person to get the item would acutally have a shorter checkout period than the one defined int eh circualtion rules becuase of the number of people wanting the item
17:31 sekjal ..okay, interesting, but that seems like an entirely different feature
17:31 libsysguy indeed it does...I didn't write it *maintains innoncence*
17:31 libsysguy although I can see it being very useful for hourly loans
17:32 sekjal yeah, no doubt an interesting and potentially valuable feature
17:32 libsysguy Was Colin the only devel on this?
17:35 sekjal libsysguy:  Catalyst was working on it
17:36 libsysguy oh...hmm for some reason I thought it was PTFS Europe
17:37 sekjal from the bug report, it looks like Colin had some code he was working on, too, and it all got mashed together
17:38 libsysguy the checkHighHolds function definitely references the new Koha::Calendar module so I know it has to be something they were doing either in prep for the change over or just for houlry
17:38 sekjal yeah... I'm wondering if Colin is working off the same spec as is on the wiki
17:39 libsysguy does he ever come on here
17:40 sekjal sometimes, yes
17:41 libsysguy I always had to communicate though him though the bug report...what a drag lol
17:48 * chris_n wonders if the wiki is down everywhere or just in his slice of reality
17:51 chris_n hmm... its back now
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17:55 sekjal libsysguy:  in your experience, how has this code changed the behaviour of cron?
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17:59 libsysguy sekjal the only real change I had to make after colin fixed my one issue is the frequency in which I ran fines
17:59 libsysguy oh yes and my own personal little enhancement
17:59 libsysguy but not to fines
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18:03 cait hi #koha
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18:08 chris_n heya cait
18:08 * chris_n pushes his MSWin32 branch and updates the wiki page
18:08 chris_n the working installation should be a repeatable experiment now
18:09 * chris_n will now run and hide
18:09 cait hehe
18:09 cait and hiya chris_n :)
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18:31 oleonard Windows and labels... chris_n is a glutton for punishment.
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18:33 libsysguy chris_n: why in the world would you be trying to get windows to work...thats almost as futile as programming in OOPerl :p
18:33 cait oleonard++ for ie tweet
18:33 cait made me laugh :)
18:34 chris_n maybe my tendency toward OO Perl explains it all ;-)
18:34 cait could be
18:37 libsysguy i just got done with a bout with OOPerl so im a little bitter
18:39 * chris_n hands libsysguy a box of dark chocolate candies and a cup of strong coffee
18:40 libsysguy aww thanks chris_n
18:40 libsysguy chris_n I always see you around but never found out where you are from
18:41 chris_n you can have some too, cait :-)
18:41 chris_n libsysguy: NC, USA
18:41 libsysguy oh cool :)
18:41 chris_n about 30 mins from Raleigh
18:41 chris_n toward the east
18:41 libsysguy small town?
18:41 chris_n just outside of Benson
18:42 chris_n blink and you'll miss it :-)
18:42 libsysguy heh sounds like where I grew up
18:42 libsysguy do you work for a library or someone else?
18:43 magnus_afk is now known as magnuse
18:43 chris_n I head up IT for a small Bible college
18:43 wizzyrea irc regulars?
18:43 wahanui somebody said irc regulars was at
18:43 chris_n we run Koha in our library
18:43 chris_n hey wizzyrea
18:43 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
18:43 wizzyrea hi :)
18:44 magnuse resluts?
18:44 libsysguy wizzyrea: i just added myself to that
18:44 chris_n wahanui got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning it appears :-)
18:44 wahanui chris_n: huh?
18:44 libsysguy idk why I didn't look for chris_n
18:44 wizzyrea hehe
18:44 wizzyrea well and he's not on there ANYWAY
18:44 * wizzyrea pokes chris_n
18:44 chris_n ouch
18:45 * chris_n goes to look
18:45 libsysguy wizzyrea didn't we talk about poking people :p
18:45 wizzyrea I poke as much as I wanna!
18:46 libsysguy haha oh wizzy
18:47 magnuse @arewethereyet
18:47 wahanui i think @arewethereyet is counting down the days until release
18:47 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 5 days
18:47 * libsysguy hates it when he writes code and comes back a week later only to be confused by his own brilliance
18:47 * chris_n pokes wizzyrea back
18:47 chris_n I'm there now
18:47 wizzyrea woot!
18:48 francharb hey guys
18:48 wizzyrea hey, at least I didn't get out the trout
18:48 libsysguy yayy chris_n
18:48 francharb how are you doing
18:48 libsysguy ehy francharb
18:48 francharb i got an english question
18:48 chris_n what language is that?
18:48 francharb sorry
18:48 chris_n hehe
18:48 wizzyrea hehe
18:48 wizzyrea go ahead :)
18:48 francharb i'm preparing my presentation for kohacon
18:49 francharb and i'm note sure of the way we say the receiving process
18:49 wizzyrea acquisitions?
18:49 wahanui it has been said that acquisitions is complicated because booksellers all make their own rules :)
18:49 francharb can we just say 'the receiving'?
18:49 francharb i make sense to me
18:50 chris_n francharb: english would not use the definite article there
18:50 chris_n so just 'receiving'
18:50 wizzyrea what's the whole sentence?
18:51 francharb You can either choose to create your items at the basket level when you place your order, or at the receiving level.
18:51 chris_n that sounds fine to me
18:51 wizzyrea or when you receive the item -> would also work
18:52 francharb great thank you
18:52 wizzyrea yw :)
18:52 francharb and what about this one?
18:52 francharb So we added permission to allow the librarian to be able to manage budgets, orders, receiving and claims in a centralised way
18:52 wizzyrea that looks perfect to me
18:52 chris_n +1
18:52 francharb great!
18:52 francharb thanks!
18:52 francharb hope i will see you there ;)
18:53 wizzyrea (well, strictly speaking, if you added one permission it would be "a permission." If multiple permissions, "permissions")
18:53 chris_n good catch
18:53 wizzyrea but people will know what you mean
18:53 francharb you re rigth
18:53 francharb plus i will be speaking
18:54 * chris_n thinks english grammar tends to be a bit unique
18:54 francharb so expect me to forget some 's'
18:54 * wizzyrea agrees
18:54 francharb ;)
18:54 wizzyrea :)
18:54 chris_n in a not so nice sorta way
18:54 francharb thanks!
18:54 francharb it's late, i need to go now!
18:54 chris_n np
18:54 francharb see ya
18:54 francharb ;)
18:54 wizzyrea later :)
18:54 chris_n bye
18:54 francharb is now known as francharb_away
18:55 wizzyrea unique in a "i want to hit it" kind of way. And not hit it in the vernacular sense, in the literal sense.
18:55 wizzyrea as in, apply brute force with great speed.
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19:02 magnuse hm, someone imported the same csv file of patrons twice - none of the patrons has been "used" yet - is it as simple as deleting the last set from the borrowers table, or would that miss anything in other tables?
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19:05 cait hm
19:05 cait patron attributes on use?
19:05 cait in use
19:05 cait ?
19:06 cait if yes, you will want to check if those delete with the borrower I think
19:06 magnuse nope, very simple patron data
19:07 magnuse i'll backup the db and give it a try ;-)
19:08 cait ah
19:08 cait messaging tables
19:08 wahanui messaging tables are quite a bit complicated, but could be extended I guess
19:08 cait are another suspect to check
19:08 cait a unimarc person around? :)
19:09 cait francharb_away: ?
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19:11 * rangi waves hi from some food court in vancouver
19:11 trea_lunch is now known as trea
19:11 rangi lots of free wifi in this city
19:12 * magnuse waves to rangi
19:12 * trea waves to rangi
19:12 rangi tired now, walked for about 5 hours
19:13 rhcl In Korean the plurals are frequently optional.
19:13 rangi around stanley park
19:13 * cait waves back
19:13 rangi saw otters, an eagle, totem poles, lots of ninja squirrels
19:13 cait ninja squirrels? :)
19:15 rangi yeah black ones
19:15 rangi im pretty sure they are ninjas
19:15 cait sounds reasonable :)
19:16 magnuse well, could they be ninjas if you saw them?
19:16 rangi ok this place is packed gonna go wander a bit more
19:17 rangi cyas again later
19:17 cait more happy exploring :)
19:18 cait magnuse: good argument
19:18 cait ok, someone speaking javascript?
19:18 cait if noone for unimarc? :)
19:20 sekjal black squirrels are a favourite around here
19:22 hdl cait: ?
19:22 cait hi hdl :)
19:22 * hdl not a javascript ninja, but maybe can help
19:22 cait I awas looking at 6963 again
19:22 hdl hi
19:22 cait and wondered if it's hardcoded to marc21
19:23 cait it seems it's hardcoded to p - but I think barcode in unimarc is f?
19:23 cait[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6963
19:23 huginn Bug 6963: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table.
19:25 hdl cait yes.
19:25 cait ok
19:25 cait I will note on the patch
19:25 cait :)
19:25 cait thx!
19:25 cait hm on the bug
19:25 cait not the patch...
19:26 hdl should be a template variable and use GetMarcFromKohaField('items.barcode',....)
19:26 hdl (would be more general and not require a If UNIMARC....
19:26 hdl )
19:27 hdl unless we are using a json for MARC structure, i think things wil get harder and harder with jscript lurking everywhere...
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19:30 cait hdl: I added a note to the bug that it should check the mappings
19:30 cait and kept it failed qa
19:35 hdl not really developer friendly.... I hope he will be able to resubmit
19:36 cait my comment?
19:36 cait or the patch itself?
19:36 cait you can always add a more technical comment :)
19:46 hdl cait: no... I meant, it is not dev friendly to have to comment on those things and ask to abide to more... and undocumented best practise....
19:46 hdl "best practise"
19:47 cait not sure I understand :) but I think he will resubmit
19:47 hdl your comment is ok.
19:48 cait hdl: I keep filing bugs for acq the last days
19:48 cait lots of small things
19:48 maximep he's working on it btw
19:48 maximep i mean 6963
19:48 cait perhaps someoe from biblibre could check if oyu have patches for those?
19:48 cait hi maximep :)
19:49 maximep hey =)
19:49 hdl cait: we have many... But based on solr.
19:49 cait hm solr in acq?
19:49 hdl yes... acq do search on biblios ;)
19:49 hdl :(
19:49 hdl rather
19:49 cait hm ok
19:49 cait perhaps I could pick some of them
19:50 cait is there a branch you suspect?
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20:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug_5533: Slightly improved marking items as lost <[…]e25a9a39af0861604>
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20:09 rangi yes, i am lame, i am pushing patches in a cafe in vancouver
20:10 jenkins_koha Starting build 484 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:10 rhcl I am envious.
20:11 rangi in my defense my legs are tired
20:11 magnuse rangi++
20:11 magnuse not lame, dedicated!
20:11 cait rangi++
20:11 cait yep :)
20:11 cait dedicated
20:12 cait so someone up to sign off my nice and shiny new patch?
20:12 rangi
20:12 cait bug 7049
20:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7049 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item form on order receive has lots of blank space
20:12 rangi (taken on my phone so not super good quality)
20:15 magnuse looks nice!
20:16 cait yep
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20:16 cait and a lot warmer than here
20:16 cait @wunder vancouver
20:16 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
20:16 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:16 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
20:16 sekjal @wunder vancouver, BC
20:16 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Vancouver, British Columbia is 12.0�C (1:00 PM PDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling).
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20:16 sekjal @wunder vancouver WA
20:17 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Mark's Porch Rose Village, Vancouver, Washington is 13.8�C (1:15 PM PDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Steady).
20:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7044 OPAC Branch Selector Fix <[…]88f319ad18c93e775>
20:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7049] Item form on order receive has lots of blank space <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7049>
20:17 rangi it feels a lot warm than 12
20:17 rangi id guess 16
20:18 magnuse @wunder boo
20:18 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (9:50 PM CEST on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
20:18 ibeardslee rangi: have you seen the replay of Sunday's game?
20:19 rangi couldnt find it on tv here
20:19 rangi i hear they played well tho
20:20 magnuse g'night #koha
20:20 rangi night magnuse
20:20 ibeardslee I feel sorry for the Welsh, because the Aussies will have something to prove
20:21 rangi yeah
20:21 rangi altho, they are pretty crap
20:21 rangi i think wales can take them
20:21 rangi lost ot ireland, scraped past SA (with the help of the ref)
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20:22 ibeardslee I just think of what it would do for world rugby if the welsh had got into the final and pushed the ABs
20:22 rangi is beale still out?
20:22 rangi yeah that would have been great
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20:23 rangi he is the only player i really worry about in the australian team
20:23 ibeardslee thought I saw something about him being back .. but would need to go diggin to confirm either way
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20:26 ibeardslee all news I can find just talks about the semi
20:27 moodaepo @wunder 56001
20:27 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 13.0�C (3:25 PM CDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling).
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20:44 Brooke 0/
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20:45 Brooke hi henri
20:45 Brooke damien
20:45 cait hi Brooke :)
20:45 Brooke hey cait
20:46 sekjal okay, all, I'm going to get some rest before I start doing sloppy QA.  have a good <<localtime>>
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20:50 rangi ok thats a few patches pushed, time to finish off my slides
20:51 Brooke :D
20:51 * Brooke cheers Rangi on
20:54 hdl hi Brooke
20:54 Brooke Europeans up late today :D
20:54 hdl rangi: talking of ?
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20:55 hdl cait: hope that the list sent on the chan doesnot scare you.
20:55 cait ?
20:55 cait hdl - which list?
20:56 hdl the pastebot...
20:56 cait hdl: sorry, did you send me a link?
20:57 cait hdl: didn't get a notice from pastebot
20:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <[…]97ac9b8f5eb1177d2> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6390' into kcmaster <[…]6ea8baf5ef0bba526> / Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref <[…]ha.git;a=commitdi
20:58 pastebot "hdl" at pasted "paste of all the patches to be sent by BibLibre on acquisition" (339 lines) at
20:58 cait it is a bit scary :)
20:58 cait but still thx!
20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #484: UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/484/
20:58 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_5533: Slightly improved marking items as lost
20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 485 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #483 2 j 13 h ago)
21:01 rangi hdl:
21:02 rangi im on thursday at 2.30
21:03 hdl hope you have a nice time there.
21:03 hdl It looks pretty good
21:03 rangi yeah some interesting topics, i think it will be a fun conference
21:05 hdl say hi to Bess
21:06 rangi you met her at code4lib eh?
21:07 hdl even before... In Dakar.
21:07 hdl It was a great time.
21:07 rangi ahh cool
21:07 hdl For IFLA preconference
21:07 hdl back in 2005 or 2006
21:15 Brooke someday, when my ship comes in, I'll make it to IFLA
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21:30 rhcl 2012 - Helsinki, FI   <$2500 for hotel, flight car
21:30 rhcl IFLA
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21:33 maximep how could kf get a 404 from my patch on bug 6943. It seems impossible to me :S
21:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6943 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget
21:33 maximep oh man, I should have removed those stupid sys-tech comments before sending that patch
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21:35 cait hm?
21:35 cait I am still here you know :)
21:35 cait oh
21:35 cait maximep: you are aware I am one and the same?
21:35 maximep I wasn't =)
21:35 wizzyrea irc regulars?
21:35 wahanui rumour has it irc regulars is at
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21:36 rangi hey kathryn
21:36 maximep too many names on that list to remember any =)
21:36 kathryn hello rangi!!
21:36 cait hi kathryn :)
21:36 kathryn hi cait : )
21:36 cait maximep: and you want me to retest that? ;)
21:36 maximep haha
21:36 maximep I just don't understand 404 - file not found
21:37 cait it works now after switching away from this branch
21:37 cait I am not sure what caused it
21:37 cait I could go back and check the logs, if that helps
21:37 maximep weird :S
21:38 jransom only 4 more sleeps (just sayin)
21:39 Brooke eeeeeeeeee
21:40 wizzyrea :D
21:40 cait hi jransom :)
21:40 * Brooke definitely did not just squeal like a wee girl.
21:40 jransom going to start wearing Goa clothes to work tomorrow - just to get in the groove ....
21:40 jransom heya cait
21:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #485: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/485/
21:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7044 OPAC Branch Selector Fix
21:47 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref
21:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up for Bug 6390: Add
21:47 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref
21:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
21:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7044 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , branch selector in OPAC not selecting
21:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
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21:58 phlunk3 o/
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21:58 rangi its anitsirk !
21:59 rangi hi phlunk3
21:59 anitsirk hi rangi .
21:59 anitsirk i have a question for you in private :')
21:59 cait hi anitsirk :)
21:59 cait finally!
21:59 anitsirk hey cait. how are you?
21:59 wizzyrea heya anitsirk
21:59 anitsirk hi wizzyrea
21:59 cait fine :) finally got some testing done
22:00 cait you should hang out on #koha more often
22:00 cait and I have to deliver a 'thank you'
22:00 cait from the student that asked about elearning and koha - met him at an event last month
22:00 Brooke DUDE anitsirk! <3
22:01 anitsirk oh cool. sorry that i don't hang out here much at all.
22:01 Brooke you can make amends
22:01 anitsirk hi Brooke
22:01 Brooke also, if you were to tie Mahara to a badge system = win.
22:01 anitsirk Brooke: we are looking into that. that's actually how rangi learned about it b/c we talked to the mozilla people first :-)
22:02 cait anitsirk: it's not hard, log in, eat some virtual cookies... fridays are especially nice
22:02 Brooke eggsellent
22:04 anitsirk hehe. i know it's not hard. i just don't have it in my auto-join list. should set it up though.
22:05 rangi slides all finished yay!
22:05 phlunk3 fun slides, or, presentation slides?
22:06 rangi presentation ones
22:06 phlunk3 :(
22:06 phlunk3 now you've got me thinking of water slides
22:06 Brooke hooray for done presos
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22:34 * rangi heads out to explore more
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22:51 Judit good morning
22:52 Judit eythian thank you
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23:14 jransom Hi Irma
23:15 jransom Hi Jidit
23:15 Irma Subbakhair jransom
23:15 Irma = goodmorning in Farsi
23:16 Irma jransom how are you? Getting nervous?
23:16 jransom yes
23:16 jransom but mostly excited
23:16 jransom you?
23:16 wahanui i think you is ketchup Oak's friend, you!
23:18 Irma jransom very excited too and also very excited that we have now all our hosted libraries upgraded to Koha 3.4.5 :-) by CALYX's clever team!
23:29 Irma jransom Bon voyage and see you in Thane!
23:34 jcamins_away Irma: depending on your accent, that's "good morning" in Arabic, too.
23:38 jransom Irma where are you staying and what day do you arrive?
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