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right back after meetings and moving my desk back upstairs |
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meetings, oy |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6970 - logout not redirecting to login page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4898d57f678acf9f4> |
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heya chris |
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have a great weekend everyone, gonna be busy helping clean up the beaches myself :/ seeyas |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Fix for Bug 6970 - logout not redirecting to login page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , logout not redirecting to login page |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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Oak |
good morning cait \o |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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rangi |
eveninvg |
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rangi |
-v |
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trea |
o/ morning cait |
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cait |
hi trea and evening rangi |
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Oak |
good evening rangi |
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rangi |
holy crap trea |
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cait |
yes, why are you awake? |
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rangi |
I just finished beer o'clock and on the bus home |
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trea |
looking at tickets |
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rangi |
ahh |
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* wizzyrea |
is awake too |
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wizzyrea |
making teh opac secksee time. |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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rangi |
youre a good man charlie brown |
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cait |
tickets like air plane tickets or problem tickets? |
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rangi |
id like to just note it |
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rangi |
and this isn't the kilkenny talking |
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rangi |
the rea's are cool as hell |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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cait |
aw |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of cool as hell |
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wizzyrea |
catalog-test.nexpresslibrary.org |
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cait |
squeee :) |
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rangi |
wooo |
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wizzyrea |
it was so cool she left |
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rangi |
it was too cool |
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wizzyrea |
oh good she's back! |
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cait |
couldn't type |
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rangi |
snap! |
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cait |
unhappy pidgin |
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cait |
:) |
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trea |
aw shucks rangi |
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rangi |
stop drinking then |
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wizzyrea |
you should bean that pidgin |
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rangi |
did you know |
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Oak |
yes |
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rangi |
in philadelphia |
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rangi |
they sell pigeons |
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wizzyrea |
for eating? |
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trea |
^^snarktastic |
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wizzyrea |
that's right, I went there. |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
eatig |
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rangi |
but I had cheesesteak instead |
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wizzyrea |
you are wise. |
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wizzyrea |
cheesepigeon |
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cait |
eew |
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cait |
I didn't even had breakfast yet and you talk about eating pidgeons |
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rangi |
ill have a cheese with |
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rangi |
I could live on those things |
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suggests a healthy pop tart |
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cait |
sorry, pop tarts are not available in your country... |
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wizzyrea |
WUT |
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rangi |
hmm can u get them in canadia |
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rangi |
? |
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rangi |
u can't get them here |
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wizzyrea |
(I don't actually really like pop tarts) |
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rangi |
I should bring hokme some for lauel |
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wizzyrea |
(I don't buy them anyway) |
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rangi |
and learn o type |
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wizzyrea |
look at that user account page... fabissimo: margin: 0 5px 5px 0 ; |
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wizzyrea |
no! |
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wizzyrea |
stupid jing. |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/lWpv9JHPh4 |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
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cait |
very nice :) |
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rangi |
css3 is ur biatch |
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cait |
fabissimo? :) |
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wizzyrea |
word. |
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wizzyrea |
i lubs it |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on October 14, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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rangi |
lies |
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rangi |
its pouring rain |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.7�C (7:34 AM CEST on October 14, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
7.7 |
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rangi |
@wunder vancouver bc |
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rangi: The current temperature in Vancouver, British Columbia is 10.0�C (10:00 PM PDT on October 13, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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rangi |
I can live with 10 |
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Namaskar #koha |
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rangi |
hi kmkale |
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kmkale |
heya chris |
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rangi |
how's the hand? |
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cait |
hi kmkale :) |
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kmkale |
hi cait |
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kmkale |
rangi: the cast comes off on monday. will know about further treatement ( if required ) then |
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* rangi |
hopes not |
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kmkale |
me too :) |
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Oak |
typing with one hand? |
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kmkale |
yup the wrong one |
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rangi |
my stop bbiab |
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Oak |
uh oh |
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wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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ropuch |
hdl: Morning #koha |
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ropuch |
uh |
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ropuch |
Must h-tabbed hdl ;> |
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hi |
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ropuch |
Hello alex_a |
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cait |
hi all :) |
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ropuch |
Guten morgen kf ;-) |
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alex_a |
ropuch, cait \o |
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BobB_ |
kmkale about? |
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bonjour |
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cait |
hi reiveune :) |
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reiveune |
hi cait, magnuse |
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guten morgen reiveune and #koha |
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clrh |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour clrh |
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francharb |
hi all |
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francharb |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
bonjour francharb |
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francharb |
goddag (?) magnuse |
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francharb |
;) |
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magnuse |
francharb: two words: god dag ;-) |
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francharb |
thanks magnuse (@wikitravel.org--) ;) |
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hi again #koha |
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magnuse |
guten morgen kf and paul_p |
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kf |
bonjour paul_p |
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kf |
god morgen magnuse |
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paul_p |
bonjour magnuse & kf & everybody |
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kf |
hi asaurat :) |
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asaurat |
hi kf! wie geht es dir ? :) |
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kf |
gut, danke. und dir? |
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asaurat |
sehr gut, danke! |
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asaurat |
one of my flatmates is leaving for Berlin next month (he'll stay there until April or something), I will have to prepare a survival guide for him, explaining, among other things, how to obtain the dreaded FREIZÃœGIGKEITSBESCHEINIGUNG !! |
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asaurat |
(even Mary Poppins would have a hard time with this one) |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
is this a german thing you need to work here? |
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kf |
sounds evil |
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magnuse |
sounds painful |
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asaurat |
yeah, this testifies that you can move in and work in germany :p |
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kf |
terrible paperwork? |
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asaurat |
but I've been redirected to the wrong office several times... |
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kf |
ah, yes, that sounds very painful |
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thx slef |
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magnuse |
@arewethereyet |
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huginn |
magnuse: Not yet - wait 8 days |
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kf |
? |
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magnuse |
kia ora americans |
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kf |
kia ora |
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jwagner |
hi magnuse and kf |
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magnuse |
hiya jwagner |
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gmcharlt |
kf: @arewethereyet is counting down the days until release |
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kf |
gmcharlt: thx :) |
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dschust1 |
druthb |
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hdl |
nengard: kf where are the notices refactoring notes ? |
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hdl |
is there a due date ? |
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kf |
hdl: sorry, can you explain? |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
the notes |
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oleonard |
nengard: Bug 7030 = Bug 4045? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7030 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , maximum number of holds |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
13:17 |
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kf |
it's on the wiki |
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kf |
let me find it for you |
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kf |
notification overhaul? |
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kf |
notifications overhaul is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aging_rewrite_RFC |
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hdl |
when should it be done ? |
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nengard |
oleonard oh yeah - we have a sys pref for that |
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nengard |
k |
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oleonard |
Not really--it doesn't work. |
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oleonard |
Hence Bug 4045 :( |
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oleonard |
...and it should be in the circ rules interface anyway |
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kf |
oleonard: nengard: evil bug :( having somehting configurable tht does not work :( |
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nengard |
i think i'd rather see it on the circ martix page so it can be done on a branch by branch basis |
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kf |
hdl: I th ink we talked about having another meeting after release |
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nengard |
but i marked it as a dup for now |
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kf |
hdl: because at the moment we are all a bit busy |
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kf |
hdl: and then identify chunks of work and make some plan |
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hdl |
ok |
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hdl |
kf when should the next meeting take place ? |
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hdl |
kf is there any schedule ? |
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kf |
hdl: oyu might want to ask on the mailing list or libsysguy - I think we have not decided on a date |
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nengard |
did we decide not to email signed off patches? Or is that still being discussed? I just emailed one and then thought maybe I shouldn't have |
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oleonard |
nengard: I wonder if that's on the agenda for the holds rewrite (speak of the devil) |
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nengard |
it might be |
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nengard |
that was before i started writing the specs :) so I don't know for sure |
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hdl |
oleonard: nengard good news is that we have some patches for 4045. |
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nengard |
woooo hooooo |
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magnuse |
bug 4045 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
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hdl |
http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]imoges/bug/MT7053 |
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hdl |
Maybe someone can take that on... |
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hdl |
bad news is that it is still H::T::Pro. |
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sekjal |
hdl: is the BZ number on the commit? |
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hdl |
sekjal: I was not even aware that it was referenced on bugzilla ? |
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sekjal |
hdl: just trying to find the right bit of code on that branch that applies to 4045 |
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hdl |
begins at this patch |
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hdl |
60c5d5ca838b94d9db9b9b8489c8603581ed6df6 |
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hdl |
all those are related to that bug. |
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hdl |
It has been done with xercode. |
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hdl |
sekjal: just hopes that helps. |
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sekjal |
awesome, thanks hdl |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya jcamins |
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kf |
hi jcamins :) |
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kf |
hi sekjal |
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kf |
and thx nengard :) |
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kf |
nengard++ |
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nengard |
np |
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morning, kf! |
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jcamins: around? |
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kf: I am. |
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kf: did you have a question? |
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hdl |
sekjal: is there a "share with/share on" delicious / twitter / and so on feature planned somwhere ? |
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sekjal |
hdl: that is possible from either SearchForTitleIn or OPACMySummaryHTML |
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sekjal |
since they can process the BIBLIONUMBER token |
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sekjal |
just wrap whatever service's API code in there, and provide the link back to the material you want to share |
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jcamins |
But do consider the privacy implications of that decision. |
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magnuse |
here's an example: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]OPACMySummaryHTML |
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hdl |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]OPACMySummaryHTML |
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jcamins |
(the decision to include a share feature... apparently the Facebook button notifies Facebook every page you look at, even if you don't click it) |
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magnuse |
and there is http://manual.koha-community.o[…]OPACMySummaryHTML |
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aarkerio |
hi! in which table MARC info is saved? |
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magnuse |
jcamins: but this should be pretty safe: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer[…].pl?biblionumber={BIBLIONUMBER}">Share on Facebook</a> |
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magnuse |
aarkerio: several... |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yep. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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magnuse |
aarkerio: marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure are the main suspects |
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aarkerio |
I am saving an info in tab 6 -> SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--PERSONAL NAME + − -> Numeration |
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hdl |
thanks folks |
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magnuse |
aarkerio: there is also biblio_framework, which is just the names of frameworks |
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aarkerio |
and I am making an SQL report and I like to add it |
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magnuse |
aarkerio: see http://schema.koha-community.org/ for a pretty view of the gory details |
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aarkerio |
is this the current scheme? |
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aarkerio |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Kohastructure.png |
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jcamins |
aarkerio: see the following: |
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jcamins |
sql reports library? |
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wahanui |
well, sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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jcamins |
^^ that |
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aarkerio |
thanx! |
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magnuse |
aarkerio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Kohastructure.png says 2010-05-10 and "This is just the first 54 of 116 tables in kohastructure.sql" |
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nengard |
and that was over a year ago too |
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nengard |
things have changed a little |
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magnuse |
3.4 had more than a 100 db changes, i seem to recall? |
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Oak |
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magnuse |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
kf, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGMHSbcd_qI |
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rhcl |
Oak! |
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Oak |
rhcl :] |
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chris_n |
wow, rolling back from the package maintainer's version of a pm to the cpan version can be a real chore :P |
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rhcl |
wheels of progress rolling backwards? |
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chris_n |
actually the package maintainer is a couple of years behind |
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chris_n |
it was worth the trouble, though.... fixed a bugger of a bug |
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is slightly curious about what the pm was... |
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chris_n |
magnuse_afk: Catalyst |
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chris_n |
the bug had to do with quoting mysql field names when using dotted notation |
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oleonard |
Of interest? https://github.com/visionmedia/git-extras |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
that 'git feature blah' thing looks pretty hawt |
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* oleonard |
couldn't get it to work, himself |
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wizzyrea |
well i'm not sure it works with repos other than github |
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oleonard |
But I are not smrt. |
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wizzyrea |
it seems to be designed for work with github |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure one of our leet haxxors could mod it to work with our git tho :P |
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oleonard |
Ah, I guess I didn't read that far :P |
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* oleonard |
being a Drupal user should be accustomed by now to things which don't explain what they do |
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libsysguy |
sekjal? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that sekjal is someone's favorite propeller-head. |
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sekjal |
hey, libsysguy |
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wahanui |
libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
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libsysguy |
heh that never gets old |
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sekjal |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, sekjal? |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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libsysguy |
anyway I saw where you changed hourly…just wondering what I should do to get it in |
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libsysguy |
or if I even can do anything |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: feel like fixing the merge conflicts with current master? |
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libsysguy |
well I've done it 3 times already so I've gotten pretty good at it |
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libsysguy |
every time I merge I get a conflict with kohaversion and updatedatabase |
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libsysguy |
but when I merged the first time I had to resolve those |
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libsysguy |
it took about 20 mins |
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libsysguy |
the majority of the tt ones are changes to the [% ( var ) %] style |
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sekjal |
ah, okay |
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sekjal |
I only looked at one conflict, then decided I should just report it, rather than try to slog through fixing each |
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libsysguy |
yeah they weren't bad…some whitespace conflicts |
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* wizzyrea |
wants the ability to add a parameter to koha-disable instancename -note"ETA to return: X hours" |
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wizzyrea |
and have the note show on the maintenance page |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: brilliant! |
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libsysguy |
but I can set up a master based install and merge hourly if that will help |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I'll sign off over the weekend. :) |
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libsysguy |
wizzyrea: can we make it a function of the maintainers average typing speen |
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libsysguy |
speed** |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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ropuch |
wizzyrea: I was looking for such feture 10 minutes ago ;> |
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ropuch |
*feature |
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wizzyrea |
how funny |
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wizzyrea |
well in that case your note would be "ETA to return X hours from XX:XX" |
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ropuch |
Is there any on/off switch for opac? Even without eta? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, in the sysprefs |
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wizzyrea |
opacmaintenance or somethin |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: any rebasing work you can do is greatly appreciated |
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wizzyrea |
I always search for "maintenance" in the sysprefs. |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: what if we make OpacMaintenance syspref text, instead of YesNo? |
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wizzyrea |
or an additional "maintenance text" syspref |
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wizzyrea |
so, turn it on/off, and give your custom text |
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wizzyrea |
that goes with the existing message |
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libsysguy |
sekjal ok, how would i go about submitting it? Would i just merge and then make a patch to push on that bug? |
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wizzyrea |
we also need a staff maintenance mode |
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wizzyrea |
where it locks out everyone but superlibrarians |
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ropuch |
wizzyrea: Oh, I misread this syspref, I was sure it defines the Koha behavior IF there is a maintenance, not actually switching it ;> |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: hmmm, not sure the best way to handle that. |
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libsysguy |
if only this patch wasn't so massive |
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sekjal |
there has got to be a way to encapsulate the merge conflict fixes in a patch, so it can just be added as a followup to the topic branch |
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jcamins |
sekjal: libsysguy: I had to ask rangi to do it for me for the analytic code. |
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libsysguy |
well i guess you could do a git add <conflict files> after merging |
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libsysguy |
then when you commit it would just add those files to the patch |
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libsysguy |
i think |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: that makes sense... do the merge, fix the problems, then format the merge commit as a patch |
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sekjal |
but it's probably not so simple |
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libsysguy |
it never is :-\ |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: what about rebasing and squashing? Then you'd be left with just one commit. |
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libsysguy |
so checkout hourly…merge with master then commit? |
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libsysguy |
I'm surprised this hasn't come up before |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
Checkout hourly, rebase -i onto Master, then commit. |
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jcamins |
The issue is the merging. Usually it's rebase. |
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libsysguy |
hmm I have never done that before |
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libsysguy |
but i can try it |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: it's something like: |
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jcamins |
git checkout -b bug_whatever ${HOURLYBRANCH} |
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libsysguy |
following... |
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jcamins |
git rebase -i origin/master |
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jcamins |
It should pop up with a long list of commits in a text file. |
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libsysguy |
ok |
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jcamins |
Set the first one to pick, and change the rest to squash. |
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jcamins |
Save and close. |
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jcamins |
It will complain about errors. |
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jcamins |
(merge errors) |
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jcamins |
Fix them. |
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jcamins |
git add the commits that conflicted. |
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jcamins |
git commit. |
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libsysguy |
interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is good |
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jcamins |
git-bz attach ${HOURLYBUG} HEAD |
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jcamins |
Disclaimer: I'm not entirely sure that will do anything like what I think it will. |
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libsysguy |
haha |
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jcamins |
Let me know if my instructions work, by the way. |
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aarkerio |
so I guess when I save a new MARC row the fields and values are created "on the fly", right? |
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libsysguy |
jcamins I will…I just have to finish up this indexing engine for class |
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jcamins |
aarkerio: yes. |
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aarkerio |
but I can't find the table, is not marc_matchers table |
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jcamins |
aarkerio: the data is stored in biblioitems. |
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jcamins |
sql reports library? |
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wahanui |
sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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jcamins |
^^ see that page for examples of how to extract MARC data. |
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jcamins |
I think it's the first section. |
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aarkerio |
I'll check, thanks! |
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* oleonard |
looks forward to seeing Bug 7031 happen |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes |
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sekjal |
oleonard: I have the patch; I'll put it up on the bug report, along with some screenshots |
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ropuch |
Is there a painless way to bulk update marc records in Koha? |
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oleonard |
there will be ropuch: Bug 5725 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios |
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sekjal |
oleonard: how's that one progressing? I see Paul did an updated patch, and you provided a followup. |
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ropuch |
Hm, sounds nice |
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oleonard |
Hmmm... I guess I didn't answer paul's question in the bug, about how the solve the 000 problem |
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* oleonard |
thinks we're going to have to remove 000 from the options since it doesn't seem to work |
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sekjal |
bulk edits to 000.... how desirable is that? |
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oleonard |
sekjal: We have an ongoing project of hand-correcting 1000s of records with inaccurate 000 data |
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sekjal |
...ew |
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sekjal |
okay, so bulk editing is definitely a desirable thing |
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sekjal |
so this patch needs to fix that, somehow |
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oleonard |
But, as I just commented on the bug, not a blocker for acceptance of the patch |
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oleonard |
Better to have it mostly working and exclude the option of editing 000 |
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sekjal |
is it working in all other regards? |
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oleonard |
Oh wait, there was another outstanding issue... |
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cait |
hi all :) |
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oleonard |
Damn, I guess I didn't put that on the bug report either. |
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* oleonard |
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aarkerio |
can I: |
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aarkerio |
SELECT ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="600"]/*'), biblio.author, biblio.title, biblioitems.isbn, items.barcode FROM biblio, biblioitems, items WHERE biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber AND biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber ORDER BY biblio.biblionumber; |
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aarkerio |
? |
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cait |
what are you trying to do? |
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cait |
this looks a bit overly complicated |
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cait |
hm, or perhaps it isn't |
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cait |
reading it again |
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cait |
does it work? |
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sekjal |
aarkerio: all the values in all the subfields of the 600 will be squished into a single cell in the return; you won't get separate lines for each 600 in a biblio, or separate lines for different subfields |
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aarkerio |
I want all the records in the catalog and also de 600-b field |
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jcamins |
aarkerio: there's an example that does almost exactly that on the reports wiki. Look through the table of contents. |
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kmkale |
Namaskaar #koha |
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aarkerio |
this works: |
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aarkerio |
SELECT ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="600"]/subfield[@code="b"]'), biblio.author, biblio.title, biblioitems.isbn, items.barcode FROM biblio, biblioitems, items WHERE biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber AND biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber ORDER BY biblio.biblionumber |
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aarkerio |
but I don't know why ;-) |
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aarkerio |
Is funny actually!! |
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sekjal |
aarkerio: looks like a good query. only suggestion I'd make is to as an "as marc600" after the Extract Value, so the return headers are a little nicer to look at |
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aarkerio |
yea, right! I will fix that |
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Oak |
how is the hand kmkale ? |
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Oak |
cait |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
what are you doing? |
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jcamins |
Oak: it's not that late in Germany yet. |
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Oak |
so, working then |
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Oak |
oh i did not mean to tell you go to bed |
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Oak |
was just wondering |
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jcamins |
Oak: just commenting. ;) |
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Oak |
uh oh. :) okay |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
not working, not time for bed :) |
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Oak |
good times! |
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cait |
hehe yes |
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* Oak |
listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhsE6Jhmo6c in low volume |
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Oak |
good |
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Oak |
cait try that song for at least till 1.5 minute... you might like it |
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cait |
it's nice |
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Oak |
:) |
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oleonard |
sekjal: I added another comment to 5725 with a question for paul_p |
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sekjal |
oleonard: just read... good question |
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bryceh |
anyone here using create_koc_db.pl to create a db for offline circulation? |
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sekjal |
bryceh: yes, I've done that a few times |
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jcamins |
The packages need to have an option for creating koc databases. |
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bryceh |
how did you deal with getting the files onto the library machine from the server? i know it's probably more of a sys admin question. |
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bryceh |
i have the files creating fine and they work. i'm just wondering if anyone has come up with an easy way to pull them onto a windows xp machine nightly. i'm looking at setting up an ftp server and possible a dos batch file, but thought i would ask if someone had a better solution first. |
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sekjal |
bryceh: putting them in a password-protected, web-accessible directory on the Koha server allows the library to pull them down at their leisure (but that's still a manual process) |
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sekjal |
something like Dropbox would work; it has a Linux command-line interface that can work with a little persistence |
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sekjal |
druthb would be able to address that more thoroughly than I, as she has set it up before |
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sekjal |
you may also consider something like rsync (though I don't know how compatible that is with Windows) |
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bryceh |
I was actually wondering about Dropbox. I just wasn't sure about Dropbox and Linux. Maybe I will investigate that a bit. |
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ropuch |
Dropbox is really cool |
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Oak |
so is Wuala |
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bryceh |
Have you used Dropbox with Linux? |
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ropuch |
Don;t know Wuala, but any software working like user friendly rsync is cool [; |
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Oak |
http://www.wuala.com/ |
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ropuch |
bryceh: yup |
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rangi |
ubuntuone |
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wizzyrea |
do the package backup routines only save a certain number? |
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ropuch |
I have my Projects/Documents folders symlinked to Dropbox folder |
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rangi |
anything you put in dropbox you should encrypt |
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rangi |
with strong encryption |
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rangi |
the same with ubuntuone etc |
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rangi |
except dropbox has a history of crappy security |
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sekjal |
yes, this db will contain patron information, so security must be considered |
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ropuch |
I use db only for some non-personal data |
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rangi |
yeah for stuff you dont mind others getting, its fine |
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rangi |
same with googledocs etc |
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rangi |
stuff you'd stick up on a noticeboard at the grocery store :-) |
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bryceh |
so maybe rsync and keep it internal. |
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rangi |
ropuch: the other thing to consider for nzers |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
is your jurisdiction privacy laws no longer apply |
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rangi |
anything you put up there, can get turned over to the fbi, without your consent etc, or a nz police warrant |
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rangi |
things to remember about the 'cloud' |
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ropuch |
Yup |
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bryceh |
thanks rangi, good advice |
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jcamins |
rangi: libsysguy needs advice on how to share the merge conflict-resolved hourly loans branch. |
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jcamins |
I thought you'd use rebase -i, but you'd know better. |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
id do the merge |
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rangi |
fix the conflict |
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rangi |
and push that fixed branch, to gitorious |
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rangi |
and do a pull request |
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ropuch |
I remeber a guy uisng some version control system to have some directory synced |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: rangi says to push the branch to gitorious after you've merged it. |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
or any public git repo is fine |
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rangi |
ropuch: yeah there is sparkleshare |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: this is much easier than my suggestion. |
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hopes that libsysguy has a highlight window. |
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rangi |
http://sparkleshare.org/ |
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ropuch |
I remeber trying bazaar in pre-dropbox era to sync my conf files on multiple linux boxes |
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wizzyrea |
soo looking at the script for koha-dump- it will keep infinite backups? |
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rangi |
it will |
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rangi |
bu you dont run it by itself |
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rangi |
you run it by |
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rangi |
koha-run-backups |
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wizzyrea |
hm interesting i don't think that one's on the wiki |
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rangi |
which takes --days as a conf option |
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rangi |
2 by default |
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wizzyrea |
oic! |
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* jcamins |
needs to send a patch in for koha-run-backups |
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wizzyrea |
ok ty, and that one isn't documented in the wiki |
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rangi |
it has inline help |
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rangi |
maybe cutting and paste that into the wiki |
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wizzyrea |
check. |
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rangi |
ropuch: for plain backups of stuff, obnam is cool too |
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ropuch |
Huh, I'm trying tu bulk update marc records - my idea is to fetch marc blog from biblioitems, do some perl-fu on it usuing MARC::Record/Batch and then isnert it back. Problem is I get "Unrecognized character \xE2 in column" when trying to manipulate the record. |
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rangi |
http://braawi.org/obnam/ |
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jcamins |
Right now koha-run-backups always runs all of the backups. |
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rangi |
well all the enabled ones |
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rangi |
for name in $(koha-list --enabled |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
Except for demo. |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins |
Well, I want to have the option to A) backup demo, and B) backup different sets at different times. |
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rangi |
yep, as long as you didnt change the default behaviour |
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rangi |
but did that with switches |
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jcamins |
12am EST != night in other places. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it's koha-run-backups --instances="name,name2,name3" |
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rangi |
right, and without it does all |
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rangi |
yeah that'd get accepted id imagine |
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jcamins |
Yeah, except for demo. So I can include --instances="demo" and have it work. |
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wizzyrea |
oo, that script should also look for an existing backup with the same date in /var/spool |
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wizzyrea |
and tack a postfix on it if it finds one. |
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boomerang |
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got an error when trying to upgrade from v3.04.05 to v3.05.0x. git wants me to commit or stash changes--how can I just force and overwrite without bothering with stash? it doesn't want to overwrite apt-get-debian-lenny.sh |
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rangi |
why not just run git stash |
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rangi |
moves them out fo the way for you |
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rhcl |
oh, allright |
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sekjal |
hey, everyone, LDAP authentication is broken |
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* sekjal |
facepalms |
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wizzyrea |
O.o |
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rangi |
hmm in master? cos it works in 3.4 |
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sekjal |
rangi: since bug 5995 was patched |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
ill revert |
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sekjal |
wait |
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sekjal |
I can patch |
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sekjal |
I know the problem |
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rangi |
hmm ok |
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rangi |
:) |
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sekjal |
basically, checkpw_ldap returns cardnumber |
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cait |
sekjal++ :) and don't worry about it |
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* rangi |
gets revert happy near release |
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rangi |
but a patch works just as well |
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sekjal |
but which is passed back through checkpw as cardnumber |
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sekjal |
but checkpw's return value is used as USERID |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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rangi |
that;d do it |
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sekjal |
so unless the two are equal, fail |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
i wonder how i didnt catch that |
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sekjal |
or, if you have a password in the database different than the LDAP password |
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sekjal |
and you login with that |
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rangi |
ahh yeah |
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rangi |
that might be whats happening, since we have clients running 3.4.5 |
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rangi |
and LDAP |
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rangi |
its been in their sinice 3.4.1 apparently |
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rangi |
there |
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wizzyrea |
they're |
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rangi |
theaaaaeeezzzzre |
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* wizzyrea |
is being funny, not snarky |
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rangi |
ill be the judge of that! |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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rangi |
hehe |
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sekjal |
okay, so I'm modifying checkpw_ldap to return cardnumber AND userid |
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sekjal |
either the existing local id if it's found, or the userid provided if not |
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rangi |
cool |
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sekjal |
then modifying checkpw to make use of that, and pass it along (in the same form CAS is using) |
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sekjal |
then modifying the call to checkpw to set the userid off the returned userid, instead of the cardnumber. |
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rangi |
that sounds perfect to me |
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rhcl |
@seen joann |
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huginn |
rhcl: joann was last seen in #koha 23 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <joann> night all |
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cait |
rchl: try jransom |
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cait |
@seen jransom |
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huginn |
cait: jransom was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 17 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <jransom> ethian: my visa took weeks to get |
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sekjal |
okay, so I think this will universally return the same three values for LDAP, CAS, and DB authentication: 1 (for 'authenticated'), cardnumber and userid |
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rangi |
cool |
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sekjal |
argh, no, it's bigger than taht |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7033] Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7033> |
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sekjal |
i"ve got to get EVERY instance of checkpw to make use of the proper return values |
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rhcl |
rangi: do I remember seeing a NZ site built on Kete but with a lot of audio (verbal recollections of history???) |
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sekjal |
there are such in installer/InstallAuth.pm and opac/sco/sco-main.pl |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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adminacct |
guys... i tried to pull in the 3.4.5 .deb packages from the koha debian repo... onto a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 install... 'apt-get install koha'.. but failed that it depends on koha-common ... any clue what could have gone wrong? |
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rangi |
a grep should find all instances sekjal |
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rangi |
id just install koha-common anyway not the main koha |
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rangi |
did you read the instructions on the wiki? |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
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rangi |
just the main one is better wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
not if you're using ubuntu :P |
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wizzyrea |
I just did it this week. |
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rangi |
yeah but thats lucid |
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rangi |
10.10 has all but one in the multiverse |
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wizzyrea |
ok fair enough |
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jcamins |
adminacct said he was on 10.04. |
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rangi |
ah yeah sorry didnt read right |
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rangi |
then that link will be good |
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rangi |
but short story is, dont use the koha package just use the koha-common one |
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sekjal |
no, I'm okay |
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sekjal |
the existing calls to checkpw call for cardnumber first |
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rangi |
rhcl: nope cant recall one |
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sekjal |
so the returned userid value will just fall off |
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sekjal |
no modification needed |
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indradg |
rangi, koha-common complains about the 5 or 6 perl deps that prolly miss their candidate numbers or something |
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jcamins |
indradg: that's why you have to follow the instructions on that wiki page. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
i swear, it works |
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rangi |
or use a real os like debian :-) |
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wizzyrea |
i did it 2 days ago, 0 issues. |
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jcamins |
It does, I did it a few weeks ago. |
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rangi |
there is a ppa for natty too |
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rangi |
ill make one for onematapeah or whatever 11.10 is too at some point |
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jcamins |
rangi: 10.04 is the most recent LTS still, I think. |
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indradg |
blimey!!!!! |
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wizzyrea |
oneiric ocelot |
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rhcl |
rangi: tnx |
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jcamins |
Wait, no, came out yesterday. |
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wizzyrea |
or something |
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jcamins |
Actually, 11.10 isn't an LTS after all. |
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sekjal |
rangi: patch written and sent |
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rangi |
thanks sekjal |
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indradg |
jcamins, rangi wizzyrea .... mea culpa!!! I was trying something else... and forgot that I had missed a crucial step :P |
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wizzyrea |
:) all ok |
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rangi |
will try to get it pushed before i fly to vancouver |
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indradg |
figured it and fixed it! thanks guys! |
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jcamins |
I was looking forward to a new LTS. |
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jcamins |
One which didn't require special cases for installing Koha. |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5995] Glitch with checkauth <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995> |
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rangi |
jcamins: i could do a ppa for lucid |
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rangi |
if enough ppl asked |
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rangi |
or if one asked and bribed me |
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rangi |
:) |
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jcamins |
rangi: hmmm... you take chocolate? |
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rangi |
i do :) |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: there's prolly still time to ship it to canada ^.^ |
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jcamins |
I was just thinking that. ;) |
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bg |
swiss miss chocolate |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
bg remembers |
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jcamins |
Swiss Miss... as in the hot chocolate mix? |
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rangi |
thats right |
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rangi |
with marshmallows |
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rangi |
for laurel |
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rangi |
one of the things she misses from the US |
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bg |
of course with marshmallows |
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rhcl |
The sugar-free version I tried several times was too weak and flavorless. |
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* jcamins |
takes a note. |
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rangi |
sugar free??? |
20:53 |
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rangi |
what the hell is the point? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that the point is not that the koha-community write a page about there software and the PTFS people write a page about there's. the point is that we have useful, informative content about the software and it's history and that anything controversial is closely referenced |
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rangi |
:) |
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jcamins |
rhcl: "let's have sweets, minus the sweetness"? |
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rangi |
lol |
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rangi |
wahanui++ |
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bg |
lol |
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bg |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
and goldfish crackers |
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cait |
what is swiss midd with marshmellows? |
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cait |
I get it's sweet :) |
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rangi |
its a hot chocolate mix |
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rangi |
for drinking |
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cait |
oh |
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rangi |
you add milk (or hot water) |
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cait |
what happens to the marshmellows |
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cait |
? |
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wizzyrea |
they melt |
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cait |
ooh |
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jcamins |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
its good! |
20:56 |
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rangi |
you'd like it i think cait |
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cait |
sure sounds like it :) |
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* jcamins |
makes his hot chocolate from cocoa powder, sugar, marshmallows, cardamom, vanilla, and occasionally some other variety of alcohol, too. |
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jcamins |
It's a lot more work. |
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wizzyrea |
i like to make the mix with dry milk |
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wizzyrea |
adding cardamom is a nice flair tho |
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sekjal |
have a good weekend, all! I'm out |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: a mix is an _excellent_ idea. |
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jcamins |
I should make some some time. |
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wizzyrea |
i use the alton brown recipe |
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wizzyrea |
it's always yummy |
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wizzyrea |
you could even do something like |
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wizzyrea |
make the mix |
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wizzyrea |
and instead of putting vanilla in it |
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wizzyrea |
tuck a vanilla bean in with the mix |
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jcamins |
Ooooh. |
21:02 |
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jcamins |
This is a good idea! |
21:02 |
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jcamins |
I even have a couple of vanilla beans begging me to find a use for them. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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rangi |
ok |
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rangi |
i vote we spend some time at kohacon |
21:03 |
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rangi |
with a foodie/drinkie session |
21:03 |
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jcamins |
(can anyone else tell I'm feeling the Fridayness?) |
21:03 |
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rangi |
at LCA |
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rangi |
they did a a big shared meal one night |
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rangi |
was a cool idea, but you need a hostel that has a nice big kitchen |
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liw |
I see rangi has been pushing all sorts of vices: hot chocolate, marshmellows, obnam... :) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
rangi: i think it's a great idea |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
ahh liw, for whom sugar free hot chocolate actually makes sense |
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rangi |
if liw comes to kohacon he can show us some nice places to eat i bet |
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liw |
Holyrood 9A (great hamburgers). David Bann (great, if pricey vegetarian). I'll mention those now, next year I'll have forgotten. Make notes. |
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* liw |
is not a foodie, alas |
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wizzyrea |
it's totally logged. |
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* jcamins |
never went to either of those places. |
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* jcamins |
didn't eat out all that much, though. |
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rangi |
liw: are you still in canada? |
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liw |
rangi, nah, came back on Wednesday, and moved to Manchester today (Friday) |
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bg |
heya liw |
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liw |
greetings, bg |
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rangi |
bummer i go to canada tomorrow |
21:11 |
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rangi |
other side admittedly |
21:11 |
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rangi |
ohh cool, in manchester now |
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jcamins |
sql report library? |
21:15 |
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wahanui |
sql report library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
21:15 |
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jcamins |
(faster than Google) |
21:15 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
21:15 |
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wahanui |
:) |
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* jcamins |
calls it a day a bit early. |
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rangi |
cya jcamins |
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jcamins |
Wish us luck with the landlord. |
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wizzyrea |
good luck |
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rangi |
good luck |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why my koha database is getting hammered by "admin commands"? I restarted the server 20 minutes ago and so far it's seen over 400k commands :/ |
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Right now mysqladmin status shows over 300 queries/second |
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rangi |
what are the actual commands? |
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rangi |
and what are the apache logs telling you |
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chobbs |
I'm nopt sure how to identify them :( |
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rangi |
well id check the apache logs first |
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chobbs |
I am doing an update of patrons right now, but there are only 13,000 of them. |
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rangi |
see if something is hammering the opac or intranet |
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chobbs |
the apache logs are only showing my import job |
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rangi |
well yeah that makes sense |
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rangi |
that does a lot of different queries |
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rangi |
300 queries/sec is not bad |
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chobbs |
100/patron? Because that's about where it's at this point. |
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rangi |
Uptime: 26088390 Threads: 2 Questions: 2778051423 Slow queries: 878 Opens: 81352 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 300 Queries per second avg: 106.486 |
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chobbs |
Hmmmm. OK, maybe I won;t panic about that :) |
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rangi |
yeah i wouldnt worry |
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I've been trying to figure out freezes all week, and this is the firt chance I've had to really start getting into it. |
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rangi |
if something was hiting apache |
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rangi |
then id suspect that |
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rangi |
but if you are running a bulk import its probably just it |
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rangi |
log |
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rangi |
open a mysql promp |
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rangi |
mysql -uusername -p databasename |
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rangi |
run |
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chobbs |
OK. in that case, where might I be looking for the cause of regular 10 minute freeszes? |
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rangi |
show processlist |
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rangi |
10 min freezes? |
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rangi |
id suspect oom |
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rangi |
or broken disk |
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chobbs |
Yup. Everything locks up, and 10 minutes later everything is happy. |
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chobbs |
avg load on server shoots up to 100+ |
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rangi |
sounds like you are going OOM |
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rangi |
and hitting swap |
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you'd think, but I don't see evidence of it. |
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rangi |
you know what load is eh? |
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even now I'm only using 12% of 9G |
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rangi |
the average number of jobs queued |
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rangi |
so if its not ram |
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rangi |
IO is the next suspect |
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rangi |
what does the cpu do? |
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rangi |
is the cpu(s) running at 100% |
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chobbs |
apache and mysqld fight to see who gets to hit 100% next :) |
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rangi |
its not someone running a bunch of broken reports? |
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rangi |
theres a lot it could be, but i would check the processlist |
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rangi |
in mysql |
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chobbs |
I doubt it. We've pretty unsophisticated users - they don't use much on reports. I suppose I could do more work on parsing the apache logs before a break and see what's being called up. |
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rangi |
see if its some queries locking the tables |
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rangi |
also maybe turn on mysql slow logging |
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chobbs |
i'll try that. show processlist |
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rangi |
thats the one |
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rangi |
show full processlist too |
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chobbs |
I actually have slow queries being logged. |
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rangi |
right, you could check if there are some dodgy ones in there |
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chobbs |
SHOW COLUMNS FROM borrowers; that's one I wouldn't expect to be slow |
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chobbs |
not sure why that one was even logged - Query_time: 0.000049 |
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rangi |
it might have got jammed behine one |
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rangi |
that was locking tables |
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chobbs |
I was overcommitting my ram, so I've lowered the number of max_connections to avoid that as a possibility. |
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chobbs |
and max_user_connections |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
maybe install iotop too |
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rangi |
and see if its getting io bound |
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rangi |
trick is finding the pattern |
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chobbs |
only pattern so far has been a consistent time of day, ~8:15am |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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rangi |
interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
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chobbs |
lol |
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rangi |
cronjob run then? |
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nope, checked that |
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rangi |
thats really oddd |
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rangi |
does it happen everyday? |
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chobbs |
that might point to a user casued problem. |
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chobbs |
4/5 days this week |
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rangi |
even weekends? |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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chobbs |
no, weekdays only |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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rangi |
that is feeling tlike a report |
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chobbs |
to my knowledge (no one compains on weekend) |
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rangi |
maybe its something they do as part of morning routine |
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rangi |
check all overdues or something? |
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chobbs |
yeah, I think you might be right. |
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chobbs |
I need to figure out how to filter my apache logs to find it |
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chobbs |
I get a 10 minute break in my apache logs whenever this happens. |
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rangi |
ahh yeah |
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rangi |
system jams |
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rangi |
and it wont get logged until it completes |
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chobbs |
so should I be looking after the break then? |
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rangi |
if its something they wait for at the broweser |
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rangi |
id look before and after |
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chobbs |
because I've been looking prior to the break |
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rangi |
yeah id check after too |
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rangi |
because the access log logs things when they finish or timeout or whatever |
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druthb |
o/ |
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rangi |
heya druthb |
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druthb |
hi, rangi. |
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chobbs |
any idea what "internal dummy connection" means? |
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cait |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, cait! :D |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
not ringing a bell |
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chobbs |
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/I[…]alDummyConnection |
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chobbs |
goog le to the rescue :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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chobbs |
hmm. I'm seeing nothing but sco, returns.pl, and circulaiton.pl before and after the break :( |
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actually, I'm seeing some 504s several minutes before the break on opac-search.pl |
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chobbs |
that seems to be the start of the cascade |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
its an odd one |
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rangi |
504 is gateway timeout |
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rangi |
are you proxying somewhere? |
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chobbs |
no, there's no proxy involved here |
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rangi |
i wonder where the 504's are coming from |
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rangi |
weird |
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chobbs |
they're coming from apache on the koha server. is it proxying for itself? |
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rangi |
maybe ask, 'what do you do round 8.15 each morning' |
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rangi |
no |
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chobbs |
well, I guess I'll see if the changes I made today help on monday. |
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chobbs |
rangi, thanks for talking it through with me! |
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rangi |
no problem |
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rangi |
how you figure it out |
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rangi |
hope even |
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