IRC log for #koha, 2011-09-26

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00:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #439: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/439/
00:13 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing a broken test
00:13 rangi yay
00:14 cait :)
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00:37 rangi http://cofundos.org/
00:37 rangi good idea, apart from the php error
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01:27 jcamins bug 6800
01:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha authentication should handle proxies better
01:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6465 - Errors in UNIMARC plugins for fixed length fields (for | and space) (T... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29c7f7bd4e5fe3fc8>
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01:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Adding new developer to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]658910ccad6536ce9>
01:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 440 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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02:19 Brooke hody
02:19 Brooke howdy even
02:20 rangi hi Brooke
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02:21 rangi hi jransom
02:22 jcamins gbarniskis++ # welcome aboard
02:22 jransom hello hell
02:22 jransom o
02:23 jcamins jransom: is Monday that bad? :)
02:24 jransom lo
02:24 jransom no
02:24 jransom I have a wireless keywboard and my fingers sometimes don't keep up with my brain - and my keyboard definitely does not keep up with  my finmgers
02:24 jransom so it always look like I am iterate
02:25 jransom illiterate (even)
02:25 Brooke it's okay, us Librarians can teach you to read.
02:25 Brooke it's a painstaking process, but we're here for you
02:25 Brooke *duck*
02:25 eythian the first word to learn is "duck"?
02:25 eythian Good enough place to start I suppose...
02:26 jransom you are allnuts
02:26 eythian what's an allnut?
02:26 eythian ohh.
02:26 eythian walnut
02:26 Brooke hehehehe
02:26 * Brooke highfives eythian
02:26 eythian :)
02:26 Brooke you know mate, you're close enough for her to slap.
02:26 Brooke I am far across the seas.
02:27 jransom all nuts ....
02:27 eythian depends whether she wants her report queries ;)
02:27 jransom as in all of yyou
02:28 jransom i would never slap the man who is at my beck and cl
02:28 jransom call
02:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #440: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/440/
02:41 jenkins_koha * januszop: Bug 6465 - Errors in UNIMARC plugins for fixed length fields (for | and space) (T::T issue)
02:41 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Adding new developer to history
02:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6465 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , Errors in UNIMARC plugins for fixed length fields (for | and space) (T::T issue)
02:42 rangi 156
02:43 eythian 834
02:44 rangi not for a few more years, unless you recruit a bunch of developers at osdc
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03:38 Oak \o
03:38 Brooke hey hey
03:38 wahanui salut, Brooke
03:38 Oak Aloha Brooke :)
03:40 Oak so who won yesterday? arg vs. the other team? scotland?
03:42 Brooke ugh
03:42 Brooke do not mention it
03:43 Brooke some good in the world though, cause I got to see a caber toss :)
03:46 Oak :)
03:48 jransom Argentina won - and it was freakin amazing game
03:48 jransom nerve wracking, dge of your seat stuff,
03:49 jransom torrential rain, injuries everywhere, everything to lose - great stuf
03:50 Oak olden days gladiator stuff, huh
03:53 Brooke feh
03:53 Brooke more like hopeless asling stuff. Bloody stewarts.
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03:55 Oak have some water Brooke :)
03:55 Brooke heh
03:55 Brooke havin some
03:55 Oak :)
03:56 jransom it was old school rugger in the worst possible conditions - loved it!
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05:21 Oak @later tell Brooke http://goo.gl/z1hwG 'Tis the fate of moths to consume in flame: The suffering of moths is justified by the candle.
05:21 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
05:21 Oak @later tell druthb http://goo.gl/z1hwG 'Tis the fate of moths to consume in flame: The suffering of moths is justified by the candle.
05:21 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
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06:30 alex_a hello
06:30 Oak Bonjour alex_a :)
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06:38 francharb hello all
06:39 Oak hello francharb :)
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06:43 julian hello
06:43 wahanui hello, julian
06:44 julian hello wahanui
06:46 Oak hello julian :)
06:47 julian hi Oak
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07:04 reiveune hello
07:04 Oak hello reiveune, sophie_m, paul_p, hdl :)
07:05 sophie_m Hello Oak
07:05 sophie_m hello #koha
07:05 paul_p hello Oak & al .(BibLibre staff start his week ;-) )
07:05 reiveune hi Oak
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07:16 rangi hi france
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07:20 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:21 rangi hi magnuse
07:21 magnuse hiya rangi - how's the rugby going?
07:21 rangi wales are beating namibia
07:21 rangi which is to be expected
07:22 magnuse hm
07:22 magnuse and the all blacks?
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07:22 Oak heya rangi
07:22 Oak magnuse
07:22 magnuse Oak
07:23 rangi magnuse: they beat france on the weekend, only canada left to play in the pool
07:23 rangi so should qualify first
07:23 magnuse yay! ;-)
07:26 magnuse hm, trying to think of a date for the next gbsd - this coming friday is 4 weeks since last, but i'll not be in front of my computer then
07:26 magnuse would having it next week as a sprint up to string freeze be any good?
07:26 rangi sounds like a good idea to me
07:27 magnuse friday 7th?
07:27 rangi yeah good one
07:28 magnuse ok, i'll make the wiki page and send an emia
07:28 magnuse s/emia/email/
07:28 rangi awesome thank you
07:28 magnuse np
07:37 magnuse next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
07:37 magnuse next gbsd?
07:37 wahanui next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
07:37 magnuse wahanui: forget next gbsd
07:37 wahanui magnuse: I forgot next gbsd
07:37 magnuse next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
07:37 magnuse next gbsd?
07:37 wahanui next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
07:37 magnuse yay
07:37 rangi :)
07:49 magnuse 65 votes for kohacon12 so far
07:52 rangi cool
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07:55 paul_p hi rangi & magnuse
07:59 magnuse kia ora paul_p
08:00 paul_p back to office after one full week training 8 librarians... (2 of them not interested by the training, 2 of them being administrative ppl that have been told to manage the library, but they knew NOTHING about library... quite a *hard* week...)
08:00 magnuse ouch
08:01 paul_p and today, 140 mails to deal with (all what I haven't done last week :-((( ) should be back to hacking  Koha tomorrow or wednesday...
08:02 magnuse yay! ;-)
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08:18 magnuse guten morgen cait
08:19 rangi hmm only 7.5 hours
08:19 magnuse ?
08:19 rangi cait had a late night ;)
08:19 cait lol
08:20 cait hey!
08:20 cait guten morgen magnus :)
08:20 magnuse ah, the amount of time from logging out to logging in again?
08:20 rangi yup
08:20 magnuse hehe
08:20 cait :P
08:20 * Oak hugs cait
08:20 cait aw
08:21 cait hi Oak
08:21 Oak :)
08:21 magnuse keeping the same nick 24/7 gets rangi off that kind of statistic... ;-)
08:21 rangi hehe yeah, no one can tell :)
08:21 cait so he is cheating
08:21 cait I am not :)
08:22 magnuse hehe
08:25 hdl hi all
08:25 magnuse kia ora hdl
08:26 liw rangi, we could track your /away status or your idle time -- you can never be silent for long when you're online, anyway ;)
08:26 cait hi hdl
08:26 rangi liw: you make a good point :)
08:26 liw rangi, it's a good thing I am too lazy to implement all of my evil schemes, eh :)
08:27 rangi :)
08:30 cait :)
08:31 cait chat statistics are evil
08:31 cait especially since someone taught the bot about my multiple identities
08:37 magnuse moahaha
08:38 Oak cait, note the evil laugh
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08:43 cait yeah
08:43 cait and I was about to give him karma for the gbsd
08:43 cait not now!
08:44 Oak :)
08:44 alex_a does anyone know why date filters (closedate and datereceived) are not taken into account in acquistions_stat.pl when they are not selected on line or column ?
08:44 alex_a on master
08:45 alex_a reading the code, it seems to be voluntary
08:45 alex_a and it's not the case for others
08:48 rangi alex_a: i think paul_p or hdl  might know
08:48 paul_p rangi, I don't know, alex_a already asked ;-)
08:49 paul_p alex_a, is asking because it seems the code has been explicitly added, so there may be a reason...
08:49 paul_p alex_a, doesn't git blame give you some handfull explanations ?
08:49 paul_p s/handfull/usefull/
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08:50 alex_a => Chris Nighswonger
08:50 alex_a chris_n ?
08:50 wahanui chris_n is release maintainer for 3.4, and merges things into 3.4.x branch
08:51 rangi from what i can tell it was done in 2008
08:51 rangi for bug 2224
08:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2224 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Filtering Acq Report Changes Results
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10:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6755' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b66df638d18bc6449> / Bug 6755 Follow up, fixing broken call to themelanguage <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]373874189edc82459>
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10:23 jenkins_koha Starting build 441 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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10:27 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6917] Acquisitions reports: Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6917>
10:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6755' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fffefcfbdfdb63d46> / Bug 6755 Web browser default lang != syspref selected langs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]269136095395f5200>
11:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #441: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/441/
11:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6755 Follow up, fixing broken call to themelanguage
11:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
11:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 442 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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11:53 tcohen hi #koha
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11:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #442: SUCCESS in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/442/
11:59 jenkins_koha f.demians: Bug 6755 Web browser default lang != syspref selected langs
11:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
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12:01 amt hi there
12:01 amt what is the hardware requirement for koha installation
12:02 amt ?
12:02 amt is any body know?
12:04 liw amt, anything that can run a web server and a database is fine (i.e., pretty much anything you can buy that is called a computer, or any VPS that is advertised as being able to act as a server), but it depends a lot on how many items you put in the catalogue, and how many users you have
12:06 amt 700
12:15 gmcharlt users or items?
12:15 gmcharlt but assuming it's not something like 700 users for 2,000,000 items ... it's hard to go wrong
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12:24 amt plz clarify meaning of user here
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13:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6914] koha_perl_deps.pl color option changes user's shell prompt <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6914>
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14:00 oleonard sekjal: I noticed Bug 3624 doesn't have a patch status, but it's not clear what it should be set to
14:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3624 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, REOPENED , Basket group delivery place
14:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6908] increase DEBUG level for *NOISY* Dates.pm init() messages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6908>
14:02 sekjal oleonard:  good question... whatever patch was attached has been obsoleted now, so it makes sense for the patch status to blank
14:02 oleonard Remove patch-sent?
14:02 sekjal but I'm not sure if that obsoleting was a good thing, if we're waiting on a new patch, or what
14:03 sekjal yes, for now
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14:06 * oleonard has a saved search for looking for bugs which are patch-sent but have no status
14:06 wizzyrea oleonard: do you have a collection of searches like that?
14:06 wizzyrea handy ones
14:06 * wizzyrea considers putting them on the web page
14:07 oleonard Other than the ones that only pertain to me or my bugs I think the only other one I have is "older than a year."
14:07 wizzyrea we should teach them to wahanui
14:08 oleonard good if you're looking for something to work on
14:08 wizzyrea *nod*
14:08 oleonard And of course there's all the public saved searches
14:09 wizzyrea how do you see those?
14:09 oleonard I see rangi has a saved "no status" search too but it's not specific enough.
14:09 oleonard Preferences (I know, duh) -> Saved searches
14:09 oleonard Below your own saved ones are the public ones
14:10 wizzyrea also this
14:10 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ab=saved-searches
14:10 * wizzyrea had never noticed this before
14:11 * oleonard sees paul_p has already shared an "old" list there
14:12 oleonard Does zebra not do this for us now? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1091
14:12 huginn Bug 1091: enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , in the opac search, a second pass with shorter terms if there are no results?
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14:26 oleonard Hi gbarniskis, LBA
14:27 * wizzyrea waves
14:28 nengard anyone know if there is a way to attached 2 patches to a bug report with git bz?
14:28 wizzyrea squash them?
14:29 wizzyrea oleonard isn't that query stemming?
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14:30 * oleonard is mostly zebra-dumb
14:30 * wizzyrea too
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14:32 gbarniskis hi all
14:32 wizzyrea how's it goin?
14:33 * gbarniskis is batting 0 for 2 on patch submission
14:33 wizzyrea which bug?
14:33 wahanui hmmm... which bug is it?
14:33 wizzyrea forget which bug
14:33 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot which bug
14:33 wizzyrea which bug is <reply>
14:34 wizzyrea silly wahanui.
14:34 gbarniskis 6914 and 6915. I posted the 6914 patch ok, but later realized it's the wrong patch (off-by-a-line placement of the fix)
14:34 wizzyrea hehe
14:34 wizzyrea if you knew how many times I'd done something like that...
14:35 gbarniskis 6915 I am holding off posting until I actually figure out git workflow
14:35 wizzyrea ^.^ no worries :)
14:35 wizzyrea maybe we can help?
14:35 gbarniskis probably. for now, still working on work space arrangement and coffee ingestion
14:35 wizzyrea coffee ingestion is important.
14:37 gbarniskis not sure if gmail actually mailed 6914 properly. It says I sent it but I don't see the list sending it back to me. Or is that the default -patches list config, not to reply sender?
14:38 * wizzyrea checks
14:38 wizzyrea I see 6914 from yesterday
14:38 wizzyrea but not this morning
14:39 wizzyrea i think gmail actually does filter them out, mine always come to me without the list subject addition on them
14:39 wizzyrea (i.e. git sends it to me, not the list)
14:40 wizzyrea so I think that's ok
14:41 slef wizzyrea: is there something up with the side bar on http://koha-community.org  or is my memory playing tricks?
14:42 wizzyrea your memory is playing tricks. plus I'm in process of rearranging it
14:42 wizzyrea so, it's different, but it's not explicitly "messed up"
14:42 slef Is the search box on another page?  And why does it say "Loading" between the koha logo and "Community Resources"?
14:43 wizzyrea did you try that search?
14:43 slef What search?
14:43 wahanui search is, like, described as “ti,wrdl: chest ” I assume 'ti' means title but what does 'wrdl' mean
14:43 wizzyrea the search moved down to the sidebar.
14:43 slef It's not there.
14:43 slef (That's why I'm asking if something broke.)
14:43 wizzyrea ah, well I'll look at it then.
14:43 wizzyrea seems to work for everyone else
14:44 slef as a substitute, anyone know anything about
14:44 slef postal loans?
14:44 slef wizzyrea: or rather, no-one else has mentioned there's no search yet ;-)
14:45 hdl oleonard: fwiw, zebra is not doing anything "for you". One has to do it with code snippets. and rpn or ccl query construction.
14:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6919] Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6919>
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14:45 slef hi cait. Your libraries don't post books to people, do they?
14:46 cait no, too small for ILL
14:46 cait we have a new library, but not sure if they will give books away or only take them
14:51 wizzyrea slef: I suspect you're one of the few that runs with no javascript.
14:51 cait slef: why were you asking?
14:51 * gbarniskis loves NoScript. Except when he doesn't
14:52 slef wizzyrea: noscript.net restricting it actually. With BEAST and so on in the news, that's only going to become more common.
14:52 slef cait: someone was asking me about postal loans and I'm sure I've seen something about Koha and postal loans but I don't remember what.
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14:53 cait slef: there were some preliminary notes on the wiki for an ill module
14:53 cait and I think you should be able to use the patron card printing module for address labels... at least I want to try that for ILL
14:54 cait really depends on what you want to do I guess
14:56 slef yeah, I've more questions for them
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15:08 gbarniskis so, I sent this not-quite-right patch file by email to -patches, and manually attached it to bugzilla (haven't config'd or tried git-bz yet), and want to redact that and call do-overs. what's proper work flow?
15:09 jcamins gbarniskis: I usually send a message saying "whoops, I messed that up. Let me try again."
15:09 jcamins Then I do so.
15:09 cait and you can mark the one patch in bugzilla obsolete
15:09 cait so it's clear which file is to be tested :)
15:10 jcamins Right.
15:10 jcamins Definitely mark the old file obsolete.
15:10 gbarniskis mark as obsolete... so done, thx
15:11 cait :)
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15:34 wizzyrea slef: is that any better (the k-c.org search)
15:41 slef wizzyrea: better. The first screenful being only containing one search result from k-c.o isn't great IMO (I searched for "postal loans" and got 4 adverts above the engine results)
15:42 wizzyrea it requires money to get ad free results.
15:42 slef wizzyrea: it would be nice if there was some indication it's going to send you to the Googopoly
15:43 slef Huh? Wordpress has a search as standard I'm 99% sure
15:43 wizzyrea that's not the goal of the search
15:43 wizzyrea this searches across all k-c.org properties
15:43 wizzyrea the goal is to be more useful, not less.
15:46 slef wizzyrea: I doubt we're going agree that searching the wordpress is more useful than being tracked and advertised at. I'll just try to remember not to bother with the http://koha-community.org search any more. :(
15:46 wizzyrea your choice
15:47 slef well, is there any chance we can have a single-site search function?
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15:54 libsysguy anybody know where i can go to see why the import stage marc script is hanging?
15:56 jcamins libsysguy: no, but it's probably the upload file size limit.
15:56 libsysguy but its one record?
15:56 libsysguy and it hangs at 0%
15:56 jcamins libsysguy: oh, no explanation, then.
15:57 libsysguy isn't there a shell only version that I can run?
15:57 sekjal libsysguy:  MARCXML, or binary MARC (iso2709)?
15:57 libsysguy i thought there was I just can't remember where it was
15:57 jcamins libsysguy: it's in misc
15:57 jcamins stage_marc_records?
15:58 jcamins You'll recognize it.
15:58 libsysguy sekjal: im not sure
15:58 sekjal libsysguy:  misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl
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15:59 libsysguy sekjal: its whatever conexxion outputs so im assuming binary marc
16:00 sekjal libsysguy:  likely, then
16:00 jcamins libsysguy: oh, Conexion?
16:00 libsysguy sorry, I just kind of stepped into this this morning
16:00 jcamins You have to change the character set to MARC-8.
16:01 libsysguy yes Conexion...I can never remember if there are one or two x's
16:01 jcamins libsysguy: neither can I.
16:01 sekjal 1 x, 2 n's
16:01 jcamins As sekjal has demonstrated. ;)
16:02 sekjal I've meant to write a Gateway client for Connexion for a long while now... just haven't gotten the prioritization on it yet
16:02 sekjal err, Gateway server, excuse me
16:02 libsysguy yeah well we all know how it goes
16:02 * libsysguy is having a monday...
16:02 sekjal would be very handy if libraries could just press F5 to export the record to Koha
16:03 libsysguy that would be very handy
16:03 libsysguy we are actually exploring the possibility of having the vendors do the cataloging for us
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16:13 libsysguy huzzah I finally got an irc client to work on my mac
16:13 wizzyrea "finally?
16:14 * druthb snickers a little.
16:14 libsysguy hehe I know…well i was trying to use adium
16:14 * wizzyrea never had trouble with it
16:14 wizzyrea oh.
16:14 libsysguy but it was not working out so well
16:14 * wizzyrea nods.
16:14 libsysguy and I didn't feel like compiling pidgin
16:14 wizzyrea colloquy.
16:14 libsysguy so here i am…using…colloquy
16:14 libsysguy yup
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16:36 slef there's yaz-marcdump which might tell you if the file is horribly broken
16:37 slef libsysguy: ^^
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16:42 libsysguy interesting...
16:42 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
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17:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6673] Create Batch Label from Staged MARC Records fails after upgrade to 3.4.x <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6673>
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17:39 * cait waves
17:42 * libsysguy waves back
17:44 cait :)
17:48 libsysguy i keep getting this error on the 3rd step of the guided reports wizard
17:48 libsysguy [Mon Sep 26 12:38:11 2011] [error] [client 129.114.242.85] [Mon Sep 26 12:38:11 2011] guided_reports.pl: Undefined subroutine &C4::Reports::Guided::themelanguage called at /home/koha/kohacl\
17:48 libsysguy one/C4/Reports/Guided.pm line 744, <DATA> line 522., referer: http://staff.catalog.uttyler.e[…]ubmit=Next+%3E%3E
17:49 wizzyrea I think there was just a fix pushed for that
17:49 libsysguy ohh dang it
17:49 libsysguy i better update
17:50 wizzyrea i'm looking for it, just a sec
17:50 wizzyrea maybe it was just on the list...
17:50 wizzyrea bug 6755
17:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
17:50 wizzyrea a1. Whenever i try to build a new report, following message appears on the
17:50 wizzyrea screen:
17:50 wizzyrea Undefined subroutine &C4::Reports::Guided::themelanguage called at
17:51 wizzyrea Try a pull now, there was a bug introduced by a fix of bug 6755, but
17:51 wizzyrea it should be fixed now
17:51 wizzyrea Chris
17:51 wizzyrea ___________________
17:51 wizzyrea oops sorry
17:51 wizzyrea sound like your thing libsysguy
17:51 wizzyrea ?
17:51 libsysguy yes but i merged
17:51 libsysguy and I still have the error :'(
17:51 libsysguy let me do some things
17:52 wizzyrea that came in at 5am this morning
17:52 libsysguy oh so pretty new ok
17:52 wizzyrea *nod*
17:52 libsysguy ill just mozzy around and see if i can find out what i did wrong
17:54 wizzyrea libsysguy: this commit http://git.koha-community.org/[…]373874189edc82459
17:54 wizzyrea is prolly the one that fixes that
17:56 libsysguy i shouldn't have to rebase after a merge right?  I thought that was only if you were tracking master
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18:07 rangi libsysguy: i missed an instance, please fetch and merge again
18:08 libsysguy that did it…thanks rangi
18:08 * wizzyrea cheers
18:08 jenkins_koha Starting build 443 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6755' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74cf84fa009ba0a26> / Bug 6755 : Fixing a bug with guided reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bceaa4dc79c63239a>
18:12 * cait cheers too
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18:26 oleonard Hmmm...
18:27 oleonard "Undefined subroutine &main::setlanguagecookie called at /installer/install.pl line 25"
18:27 oleonard ...when running web installer
18:27 wizzyrea ping rangi - another spot for that language bug?
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18:31 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 18.7�C (1:30 PM CDT on September 26, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling).
18:33 druthb @wunder Columbia, TN
18:33 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Hollywood, Culleoka, Tennessee is 19.9�C (1:30 PM CDT on September 26, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
18:36 fredericd oleonard: I see this bug!
18:40 oleonard Ah, because setlanguagecookie  was removed from Output.pm :|
18:42 oleonard Hm, moved to Templates.pm?
18:42 fredericd yes
18:42 fredericd I've tracked it everywhere...
18:44 Danielle o/
18:45 gmcharlt librarians gotta librarianize, or something - release notes are now grouped together - http://koha-community.org/cate[…]ease/3-4-release/
18:45 gmcharlt and http://koha-community.org/cate[…]ease/3-2-release/
18:45 * rangi fixed a themelanguage one that got missed, im prepared to believe others did as well
18:45 * wizzyrea cheers at gmcharlt
18:45 wizzyrea gmcharlt++
18:46 rangi we need to tidy up 6755 fast or ill have to remove it
18:46 oleonard Change line 26 of install.pl from "setlanguagecookie( $query..." to "C4::Templates::setlanguagecookie( $query..." ?
18:46 wahanui oleonard: that doesn't look right
18:46 fredericd I attached a followup patch to it it now
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18:47 * oleonard should have simply waited for fredericd to fix! :)
18:50 rangi ill test and push when I get to work
18:51 oleonard fredericd: I see an instance of setlanguagecookie in opac-changelanguage.pl too
18:52 oleonard ...and also opac/changelanguage.pl? Why do both of those exist?
18:52 libsysguy so UT system just asked us about Koha
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18:53 libsysguy they are discussing a possible shared system
18:54 fredericd oleonard: no idea, opac/changelanguage.pl doesn't mean anything to me since opac-changelanguage does the same job.
18:54 fredericd I've patch it just in case. But this file may be removed
18:56 rangi libsysguy: awesome
18:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #443: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/443/
18:56 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6755 : Fixing a bug with guided reports
18:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
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19:01 libsysguy rangi: yeah i'm just hoping they don't say we have to use something lame.  They wanted to know what version number we were running
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19:07 rangi 3.5 eh?
19:08 rangi my stop brb
19:09 rhcl libsysguy: So why might UT get to decide anything? Why do you not simply tell them what they're going to run if they want to play with your toys?
19:15 rangi back
19:15 wizzyrea wb
19:26 rangi libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/djdago/d[…]renaline-original
19:27 bg rangi?
19:27 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
19:27 bg YAY
19:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6869 Batch item modification fails whit accented characters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]696d5eeb0a8ac07fc> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6755' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]764de51887a98a23b> / Bug 6755 Followup setlanguagecookie used in 2 places <http://git.koha-community.org/
19:33 druthb bg?
19:33 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
19:34 wizzyrea can someone else please test  6801
19:34 wizzyrea bug 6801
19:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6801 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Patron details page slow to load when many checkouts present
19:34 wizzyrea the qa manager kind of wrote it :P
19:34 rangi bug 4841
19:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4841 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, larry, ASSIGNED , Advanced search returns 0 results if the itemtype have no items
19:35 wizzyrea so it needs a 2nd signoff
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19:37 druthb omg..
19:37 wizzyrea ?
19:37 druthb hiccupy network...and it's *wired*.  how annoying!
19:37 rangi yes i would love someone else to test 6801
19:37 rangi and you can listen to this while you do it
19:37 rangi http://soundcloud.com/camokroo[…]ooked-hot-pursuit
19:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 444 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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19:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4841: biblio-level itemtypes not searchable in advance search by itype <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d727ba136eb105bab>
19:43 cait bug 6801
19:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6801 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Patron details page slow to load when many checkouts present
19:43 cait ah, don't have a database for that :(
19:44 wizzyrea really it should start slowing down with only about 20 checkouts
19:44 wizzyrea it was timing out completely with 75-100
19:44 wizzyrea but is noticeably slow with up to 20
19:44 wizzyrea over 20 I mean
19:45 rangi ive tested, and it seems good to me, but id still like one more signoff before I push
19:45 cait one patron enough or need a list full of them?
19:45 rangi one patron is fine
19:45 rangi there are 2 things to test
19:45 rangi most importantly
19:45 rangi is it showing all issues still
19:45 rangi then secondly, is it faster
19:45 rangi always test for regressions first, cos they trump anything else anyway
19:45 cait ah patron details
19:46 cait misread as patron search
19:46 cait git pulling...
19:46 rangi yay!
19:46 rangi and after this, you need to go to sleep so you can catch your train!
19:49 libsysguy rangi: well since they sign my check and pay my tuition the best I can do is offer the best suggestion
19:50 rangi i think it was rhcl who said that not me ;)
19:50 cait ssh! :)
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19:51 libsysguy is there a function already built into koha to get all patrons with fines?
19:51 cait ok, I need lots of overdues, right?
19:51 wizzyrea not necessary, but helpful
19:51 rangi lots of checkouts in general
19:52 rangi libsysguy: probably, but i dont know it
19:52 libsysguy hehe
19:52 wizzyrea libsysguy: did you look in the report library?
19:52 wizzyrea i'm pretty sure there's a report in there to get that
19:53 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines
19:53 libsysguy I know there is I just wanted to write a script to send out the mailer
19:53 libsysguy and I was just going to be lazy about it
19:53 wizzyrea Ah.
19:54 wizzyrea you want to send an email to the patron with that?
19:54 libsysguy yeah…right now poor margo is having to do a mailmerge
19:54 wizzyrea Ah.
19:54 wizzyrea no, I don't think there's a function in koha to do that
19:54 libsysguy dang it
19:55 cait oh
19:55 cait the new partial fines thing is nice
19:55 wizzyrea it IS, isn't it?
19:55 cait yep
19:55 wizzyrea ptfs-e++
19:55 cait had to pay fines first before I can do checkouts :)
19:56 rangi heh
19:57 cait ugh, why is my sysem so slow? :(
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20:01 cait the new fast add workflow is nice too :)
20:02 sekjal cait:  yeah, I think it's a little more user friendly... though some of the changes break the old workflow
20:02 sekjal patches forthcoming
20:05 cait hm on thenews tonight they you are addicted to the internet when you spend more than 4 hours online each day...
20:05 cait they say
20:05 cait ...
20:06 wizzyrea uh.
20:06 wizzyrea well crap.
20:06 wizzyrea does that count if my job requires it?
20:06 cait not sure
20:06 cait perhaps we have to face the ugly truth
20:07 wizzyrea we're internet junkies!
20:07 wizzyrea "hi, my name is wizzyrea, and I'm an internet junkie."
20:07 oleonard-away I can quit any time I want to, and then start right back up again with no problem at all.
20:08 rangi you are addicted to a desk if you spend more than 4 hours at it either
20:08 cait rofl
20:08 cait oh my god
20:09 wizzyrea we're killing cait.
20:09 cait no
20:09 cait still breathing
20:09 * wizzyrea breathes a sigh of relief
20:09 cait i see no problem with the patch
20:09 cait but not sure it's faster than before
20:09 wizzyrea it was noticeably faster on my test system
20:09 wizzyrea with 100ish checkouts
20:09 rangi not breaking things is enough for me
20:10 cait can we do keyword-to-marc-mappings to that list?
20:11 rangi what?
20:12 * wizzyrea notes that whilst installing new required gems for kete, I just installed "crack"
20:12 cait I wondered if I would add a keyword-to-marc-mapping if it would hsow up in the list of checkouts
20:12 wizzyrea I guess that sorts it, i'm officially an internet junkie.
20:12 cait lol
20:12 * cait sends cookies
20:12 wizzyrea exit
20:12 wizzyrea errr
20:12 wizzyrea lol
20:12 wizzyrea dangie
20:12 rangi hmm i dunno cait, did it used to?
20:13 cait I don't know :)
20:13 cait but I had a library complaining that the volume number does not show up- so it would be nice. but probably would slow down things
20:13 rangi yup
20:14 rangi if you are happy to sign off on it, ill then do some more testing with speed tracer
20:14 rangi and push to master if all goes well
20:14 cait okok
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20:16 cait done
20:17 rangi yay!! thanks cait
20:19 sekjal yes, cait++
20:20 * cait so hopes she didn't miss something obviouw
20:20 cait obvious even
20:20 wizzyrea if you did, I did too
20:20 wizzyrea and sekjal.
20:20 * wizzyrea notes that if you missed something, it's nowhere near as bad as the "improvement" that introduced the bug.
20:20 wizzyrea just sayin.
20:20 cait what improvement was that?
20:21 sekjal cait: relative's checkouts
20:22 cait ah
20:26 maximep was 3.6 feature freezed on the 22th or was the date changed ?
20:26 wizzyrea nope, it was feature frozen on the 22nd
20:26 maximep lol, frozen makes more sense :p
20:26 wizzyrea ;)
20:27 wizzyrea no, the date wasn't change, yes, it was frozen on the 22nd ;)
20:27 wizzyrea changed*
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20:31 rangi yes
20:31 rangi http://koha-community.org/koha[…]eptember-2011/#36
20:31 * sekjal is a little sad that his weekend project will have to wait a month before it could be included, but there was no way to get it done before the date
20:36 cait oh
20:37 cait what is your weekend project?
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20:38 rangi 9:37:14
20:38 * rangi is testing with a borrower with 286 items out
20:38 wizzyrea 9 minutes?
20:39 wizzyrea before or after
20:39 rangi thats when i started it
20:39 rangi still going
20:39 wizzyrea before or after the patch?
20:39 rangi then ill apply the patch
20:39 wizzyrea OH
20:39 rangi and time again
20:39 wizzyrea you scared me.
20:40 rangi 109958ms
20:40 rangi whoops
20:40 rangi 108858ms
20:40 cait whoops
20:40 * cait is curious now
20:40 rangi now to do it with the patch applied
20:41 rangi 2783ms
20:41 rangi now to be fair
20:41 wizzyrea DING DING DING winner!
20:41 rangi ill restart mysql
20:41 rangi to get rid of its query caching
20:42 rangi so im comparing a clean run vs a clean run
20:42 rangi ok trying now
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20:42 rangi 4075ms
20:42 * wizzyrea tried it with 2 diff known problematic patrons
20:42 rangi still a clear winner
20:42 wizzyrea YAYEEE
20:42 wizzyrea sekjal++
20:43 rangi will sign off and push
20:44 sekjal :)
20:45 wizzyrea that was torture, I like bit off all of my fingernails.
20:45 rangi lol
20:46 cait hehe
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20:49 rangi hmm i see some translation stuff pushed
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20:51 rangi 26.7 times faster
20:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6801: checkoverdues returns unnecessary fields, causing slowness <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]47079f779e714f874>
20:52 rangi and the margin only gets bigger the more checkouts you have
20:52 rangi theres nothing wrong with that
20:52 rangi thats a 2600% speed improvement
20:52 wizzyrea I like it.
20:52 wizzyrea Very much.
20:52 sekjal my next target:  Lists
20:52 wizzyrea sekjal is on the hunt
20:53 cait :)
20:53 cait sekjal++
20:55 sekjal I really like running NYTProf
20:57 maximep yeah just discovered NYTProf! Really cool
20:57 rangi bug 6193
20:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
20:57 rangi we need some more test on that
20:58 rangi it gives a darn good perf boost everywhere
21:00 sekjal rangi:  sounds appealing... will look into it
21:00 rangi thanks
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21:00 rangi that coupled by switching on memcached for sessions (in the sysprefs) speeds everything up
21:01 wizzyrea I like the idea of this.
21:01 wizzyrea I'd want to try it on something bigger than my test server :/
21:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #48: SUCCESS in 1 h 23 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/48/
21:02 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.4.5 .po files update at String Freeze
21:02 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Mise à jour fr-FR et da-DK
21:02 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6883 Update userpermisions.sql fr-FR file
21:02 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Suite trad fr-FR
21:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6883 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , User permissions SQL File Translation
21:03 rangi wizzyrea: it doesnt need to be big
21:03 rangi because it means the config file isnt parsed from xml on everypage
21:03 rangi size of the db shouldnt matter at all
21:03 wizzyrea I know, but load/pageviews does
21:04 rangi you can hit it with curlloader
21:04 rangi or httperf
21:04 wizzyrea you told me, ages ago... yes, that was my next question, I couldn't remember the load tester!
21:04 wizzyrea ty for reading my mind.
21:05 sekjal rangi:  looks like any changes to C4/Contextpm that the patch would implement are dependent on MEMCACHED_SERVERS being defined
21:05 sekjal which is good
21:05 rangi yup
21:05 sekjal and the definition comes in koha-httpd.conf
21:05 sekjal from the Make
21:06 rangi *nod*
21:06 sekjal would refusing to define the variables cause any problems in koha-httpd.conf?
21:06 rangi should do
21:06 rangi sorry shouldnt do
21:06 rangi but id have to test that
21:08 sekjal nope, no problems with adding the line: MEMCACHED_SERVERS ""
21:08 sekjal to koha-httpd.conf
21:09 sekjal though, I only checked one page
21:09 rangi sweet
21:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #444: SUCCESS in 1 h 30 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/444/
21:09 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6755 Followup setlanguagecookie used in 2 places
21:09 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6869 Batch item modification fails whit accented characters
21:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
21:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6869 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Batch item modification fails if accented characters are used in the modification form.
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21:10 sekjal no script pages reference ENV variable MEMCACHED_SERVERS already
21:11 sekjal only three C4 modules reference the XML version C4::Context->config('memcached_servers')
21:11 sekjal Auth, Biblio and Languages
21:11 sekjal so, it may be more efficient in those three places to use the ENV variable
21:12 sekjal all in all, I think the logic is sound... will need to actually run it on a test machine before I really say for certain, though
21:13 rangi yep, if this patch goes in, then a follow up will be to change those to match
21:13 rangi *nod*
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21:13 sekjal I'm interested to see the performance differences in ms
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21:17 rangi http://notalwaysright.com/frie[…]sual-places/13955
21:18 wizzyrea that is odd and awesome
21:18 rangi yup
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21:41 cait night all
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21:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #445: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/445/
21:57 jenkins_koha * larry: Bug 4841: biblio-level itemtypes not searchable in advance search by itype
21:57 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6801: checkoverdues returns unnecessary fields, causing slowness
21:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4841 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, larry, ASSIGNED , Advanced search returns 0 results if the itemtype have no items
21:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6801 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Patron details page slow to load when many checkouts present
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22:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6923 : Fixing a bug introduced by 6755 - was blocking help being used or edited <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e46f9a663e1813327>
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23:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #446: SUCCESS in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/446/
23:10 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6923 : Fixing a bug introduced by 6755 - was blocking help being used or edited
23:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6923 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't load help files
23:22 wizzyrea wow 6755 was a tricky bugger.
23:22 rangi well not really
23:22 rangi the fix for it is worse than the bug
23:23 rangi but i think we might have sorted it out
23:23 wizzyrea that's what I mean --the fix has caused all sorts of trouble.
23:23 rangi yup
23:24 rangi i was very tempted to rip it out
23:24 rangi if it was closer to release i would
23:26 rangi heres hoping we got all of the instances
23:27 jcamins_away bug 6755
23:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
23:27 jcamins_away Ah.
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23:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6916] Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6916>
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23:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 49 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:56 * mrfixit rolls the 3.4.5 release while jenkins tests it
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