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lastnode |
doh |
| 00:05 |
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lastnode |
i had to hit the sack in the middle of the meeting |
| 00:05 |
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lastnode |
are there logs? |
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eythian |
what was not the right button |
| 00:05 |
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eythian |
wahanui: logs? |
| 00:05 |
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wahanui |
logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 00:05 |
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eythian |
^-- there |
| 00:05 |
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melia |
log for today's meeting is here, starting at 18:00: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-09-07#i_758460 |
| 00:06 |
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eythian |
lastnode: melia is also an infobot ;) |
| 00:06 |
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melia |
I already answered that question for someone else once today :) |
| 00:06 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 00:06 |
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lastnode |
there must be some way ou tof here, said teh joker to the theif |
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lastnode |
eythian: im going to look into them man pages this weekend |
| 00:09 |
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eythian |
awesome :) |
| 00:10 |
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lastnode |
i mean im noob at man paegs so i won tpromise anything, but ill certainly have a look |
| 00:10 |
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lastnode |
aer you going to be at kohaconf, eythian? |
| 00:11 |
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eythian |
lastnode: I learnt from a book. |
| 00:11 |
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eythian |
Will look up what it is |
| 00:11 |
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lastnode |
sorry |
| 00:11 |
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lastnode |
kohacon, eythian! |
| 00:11 |
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lastnode |
my bad |
| 00:11 |
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eythian |
https://market.android.com/det[…]sicshellscripting <-- I bought this, it has a chapter on man pages |
| 00:11 |
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eythian |
I am going to kohacon |
| 00:12 |
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eythian |
but not immediately, first I'm going to lunch |
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lastnode |
haha |
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rangi |
hi Irma |
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| 01:38 |
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glernil |
good day! |
| 01:38 |
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rangi |
hi glernil |
| 01:38 |
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glernil |
anyone know what is "INTRAPORT" portion in the koha-sites.conf for? |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:39 |
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rangi |
you running the packages? |
| 01:39 |
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glernil |
yup |
| 01:39 |
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rangi |
the port you want to run the staff side on |
| 01:39 |
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rangi |
we usually do 80 for both, cos do name based virtualhosting, but if you cant/dont want to, you can put whatever port you want in there |
| 01:41 |
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glernil |
ahm. i see... so if i will not broadcast my installation publicly is it just ok to leave the domain name blank and intraport to 80? |
| 01:42 |
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glernil |
or 8080? |
| 01:42 |
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glernil |
when you say virtual hosting it is something about the configuration file of apache right? |
| 01:43 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 01:44 |
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glernil |
what about the intraprefix and intrasuffix? |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
pick one and set it |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
its so you can have |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
koha-admin |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
or admin-koha |
| 01:45 |
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rangi |
or whatever you desire for your staff side |
| 01:47 |
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glernil |
so if i added intraprefix koha-admin, when i want to login in the staff interface the address will be |
| 01:47 |
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glernil |
domain_name:koha-admin8080? |
| 01:47 |
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rangi |
no |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
it would be koha-admin.sitename.domainname:8080 |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
so if when you do koha-create you do |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
koha-create foo |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
it would be |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
koha-admin.foo.domainame:8080 |
| 01:49 |
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glernil |
Got it. Thank you. |
| 01:49 |
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rangi |
or somethign similair |
| 01:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 406 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 20 j ago) |
| 01:57 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6687 - allow people to be moved in the holds queue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3797bdc31cca226d8> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6256' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b1631e8b6ddd9a35> / 6256 Follow up fixing typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=f |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #406: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/406/ |
| 02:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: 6256 Follow up fixing typo |
| 02:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 6687 - allow people to be moved in the holds queue |
| 02:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , cannot move people in the holds queue |
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eythian |
the 'Patrons with the most Checkouts' code is the most confusing thing I've ever read. |
| 04:39 |
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mtj |
eythian: what file in the repo ? |
| 04:39 |
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* mtj |
curious |
| 04:40 |
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mtj |
jeez, ive hit a stupid situation handling tricky chars in a $tring, in jscript... |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:41 |
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mtj |
.. the only way around my problem was to find a web-tool to escape my string |
| 04:41 |
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mtj |
http://www.htmlescape.net/stringescape_tool.html |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
and then assign that escaped string to a var |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
basically, theres no JS equiv of perl's... |
| 04:43 |
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mtj |
my str = qq | <>''s'ad'sad'sa''''ee'3e'3'r'''!'''><<>|; |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
mtj: reports/bor_issues_top.pl |
| 04:44 |
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mtj |
so i couldnt even assign my unescaped string to a var - without manually escaping every special char?!? |
| 04:46 |
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eythian |
you're inserting a string into the JS via a template? |
| 04:48 |
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mtj |
no, a simple s/r via some jquery |
| 04:49 |
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mtj |
like this... |
| 04:50 |
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mtj |
var s = "Don't have a password yet? Contact the librarian by email<a href="mailto:moo foo.com">moofoo.com</a> to arrange one to be set up"; |
| 04:50 |
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mtj |
$("#opac-auth p").html('s'); |
| 04:51 |
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mtj |
js explodes trying to assign that string to $s :/ |
| 04:51 |
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eythian |
that would be fine, however you should either use ' ' for the href, or put a \" there |
| 04:52 |
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mtj |
ah, ok i missed those " chars in that example |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
if it's the < upsetting things, then the javascript should be wrapped in a CDATA block |
| 04:54 |
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mtj |
what i really wanted was a 'qq' |
| 04:54 |
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mtj |
var s = qq|Don't have a password yet Contact the librarian by email<a href="mailto:moofoo.com">moofoo.com</a> to arrange one to be set up|; |
| 04:54 |
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mtj |
ok , thanks for the CDATA tip, i never understood it |
| 04:56 |
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mtj |
it still seems the most fail-safe way to handle tricky strings is to transform them via a web-tool :/ |
| 04:56 |
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mtj |
like this one? |
| 04:56 |
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mtj |
http://www.htmlescape.net/stringescape_tool.html |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
No, I'd say a CDATA block |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
it's because there's multiple levels of parsing going on |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
i.e. you're upsetting the HTML parsing. |
| 04:58 |
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mtj |
ok, i gotta read up on that |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
the only thing that'll mess up CDATA processing is having ]]> in your string. |
| 05:00 |
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mtj |
ah, looks like you are spot-on again :) |
| 05:00 |
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mtj |
cdata is what i'm looking for |
| 05:00 |
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eythian |
really, I think Koha should take care of wrapping it in a CDATA |
| 05:00 |
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mtj |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDATA |
| 05:04 |
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mtj |
Koha does seem to be doing that correctly in the doc-head block, i was testing my code just after that block, directly in the template |
| 05:04 |
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mtj |
so - my bad... but i learned something for next time :) |
| 05:04 |
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eythian |
ah right :) |
| 05:11 |
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mtj |
hey, i recall bumping into the bor_issues_top.pl script too, years ago |
| 05:12 |
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mtj |
it blew my mind! |
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eythian |
yeah, it's pretty mad |
| 05:22 |
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eythian |
It may need a rewrite at some stage, it appears to be providing incorrect results. |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
morning #koha |
| 05:22 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
what is mad? |
| 05:22 |
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eythian |
reports/bor_issues_top.pl |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
ah |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
those reports are all a bit weird :( |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
I fixed one but don't trust them really |
| 05:23 |
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eythian |
yeah. |
| 05:28 |
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eythian |
So, the latest version of schemaSpy is pretty darn good and we should start making use of it. |
| 05:28 |
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eythian |
It gives you an interactive view of the database structure. |
| 05:28 |
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eythian |
Especially useful for people making reports. |
| 05:33 |
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rangi |
hello from the bus |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
| 06:15 |
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magnuse |
@wunder valletta |
| 06:15 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Luqa, Malta is 23.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:15 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.25 in 990 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:15 |
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rangi |
hi magnuse |
| 06:16 |
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magnuse |
hiya rangi! |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
hi magnuse! |
| 06:19 |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
how was your vacation? :) |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 06:19 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:19 |
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magnuse |
very nice! |
| 06:19 |
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magnuse |
and very, very hot |
| 06:19 |
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magnuse |
~32C - too hot to do much else than lie by the pool... ;-) |
| 06:21 |
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eythian |
how terrible :) |
| 06:21 |
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magnuse |
aye! |
| 06:22 |
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magnuse |
we did do what we went there to do: see two paintings by Caravaggio, but not a lot else (apartfrom eating very good food!) |
| 06:27 |
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alex_a1 |
hello |
| 06:27 |
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rangi |
heya alex_a1 |
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| 06:28 |
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alex_a |
hi rangi |
| 06:28 |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
| 06:28 |
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alex_a |
bonjour magnuse :) |
| 06:32 |
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lastnode |
hi friends |
| 06:37 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488> |
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* cait |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello magnuse & all |
| 06:59 |
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* magnuse |
is happy to see the simplified sysprefs making it into koha! |
| 07:01 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6857] Show a warning if placing a reserve will incur a cost <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6857> |
| 07:01 |
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rangi |
yep nice work magnuse |
| 07:02 |
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rangi |
i paul_p and lastnode and reiveune |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
thanks rangi |
| 07:02 |
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reiveune |
hi rangi |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
hopefully it will save us some time and frustration in the long run... |
| 07:03 |
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paul_p |
hello rangi. All blacks are ready ? Are you ready for the WRC too ? Beers in the fridge, cookies in the oven,... ? |
| 07:03 |
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rangi |
heh yep |
| 07:03 |
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rangi |
24 hours to go |
| 07:05 |
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paul_p |
yes. and 48 for frenchies. The match will be at 8AM for us. |
| 07:05 |
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rangi |
thats pretty good time |
| 07:06 |
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paul_p |
yep. Also note our 1st son (16) has decided to play ... rugby this year. So he will wake up (with his best friend, that also play rugby and will be at our home this we) at 7:30 to watch the match ! |
| 07:06 |
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paul_p |
incredible for a 16 teenager : saturday and wake up at 7:30 ! |
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rangi |
hehe that is pretty incredible :) |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
kahu has played a couple of games of ripper rugby this year |
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rangi |
http://www.ehow.com/way_518801[…]-rugby-rules.html |
| 07:13 |
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magnuse |
rumour has it koha deployment in ethiopia is one of the case studies in this phd dissertation: Nigussie Tadesse Mengesha: �Revisiting Networking of Actions and Knowledge Transfer:An Outline of Practice and Community Based Distributed Approach For Open Source Information Systems Implementation in Developing Countries. Cases from Ethiopia� http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/forsk[…]011/nigussie.html |
| 07:14 |
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rangi |
oh interesting |
| 07:14 |
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wahanui |
interesting is good |
| 07:14 |
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rangi |
you'll have to read it and tell me :) |
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magnuse |
rangi: i'll see what i can do ;-) |
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rangi |
hi hdl |
| 07:18 |
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magnuse |
thanks to this project: http://julap.b.uib.no/ koha has also been present in South Sudan from (before) day 1! (i really should ask someone to write a tiny piece about that for the newsletter...) |
| 07:19 |
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rangi |
definitely ! |
| 07:19 |
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magnuse |
there's a long writeup of the project here: http://julap.b.uib.no/synopsis/ |
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zipporah |
Do we have 3.4.4 in Livecd? |
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hdl |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
zipporah: not that i know of |
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rangi |
hi sophie_m |
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sophie_m |
hi rangi |
| 07:47 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6807] Add ISBN filter to advanced order search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6807> / [Bug 6811] Send renewal notice <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6811> / [Bug 6783] Circulation restrictions dont work when other withdrawn reasons are used <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6783> |
| 07:49 |
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lastnode |
rangi: when koha installs on debian koha-start-zebra is not executed |
| 07:49 |
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lastnode |
is that intentional? |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
yes |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 07:50 |
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eythian |
lastnode: there's nothing to start on a fresh install |
| 07:50 |
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eythian |
so it starts it after running koha-create |
| 07:50 |
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lastnode |
after koha-create though |
| 07:50 |
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lastnode |
and long after we started entering darta yesterday |
| 07:50 |
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lastnode |
*data |
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lastnode |
it was not being indexed, so i went back adn executed koha-start-zebra |
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lastnode |
did i foobar, or is that intended behaviour? |
| 07:51 |
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eythian |
I've seen that happen once or twice, but never been able to reproduce it. |
| 07:51 |
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eythian |
basically, it should kick it going after koha-create |
| 07:51 |
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eythian |
are you on ubuntu or debian? |
| 07:51 |
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lastnode |
debian4life |
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eythian |
cool, there's a bug on ubuntu (and debian unstable) that I can't remember if it's been fixed yet |
| 07:52 |
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eythian |
but you're not seeing that if you're on squeeze |
| 07:52 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 07:52 |
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* eythian |
-> home |
| 07:52 |
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lastnode |
yeah imon squeeze. was just wondering if koha-start-zebra has to be added to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 07:52 |
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lastnode |
but i guessnot |
| 07:53 |
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zipporah |
May I also find out how to include Zebra after leaving it out in the initial installation of Koha 3.2 using livecd? |
| 07:56 |
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zipporah |
I am new to Koha. Is there too much to loose without zebra component in running Koha 3.2 effectively? |
| 07:57 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6761] Longer userid field <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6761> |
| 07:59 |
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magnuse |
zipporah: zebra is recommended and the NoZebra option will probably be removed some time in the future |
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lastnode |
zebras are cool |
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magnuse |
they sure are |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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kf |
god dag magnuse |
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zipporah |
magnuse, so how do I get zebra into koha now? |
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magnuse |
zipporah: i have never done it, but at least you need to change the NoZebra setting, then run the rebuild_zebra.pl script |
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lastnode |
zipporah: im not an expert, but pricely because of that, whatid do is export my db, reinstall and impor tit |
| 08:41 |
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* lastnode |
doesnt know if magnuse will approve |
| 08:42 |
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zipporah |
magnuse: I need to research more on this then as I need a step-by-step approach to achieve this. |
| 08:42 |
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rangi |
lastnode: that wont actually achieve turning zebra on |
| 08:42 |
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rangi |
what magnuse said is the way to do it |
| 08:43 |
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rangi |
switch the sys pref |
| 08:43 |
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rangi |
do a rebuild_zebra.pl with -r |
| 08:43 |
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rangi |
then set up the cron job |
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magnuse |
zipporah: if you are on debian you need to look at "chapter" 6 of INSTALL.debian: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD |
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zipporah |
Friends send an email like in a tutorial form so that I can even print it off and study it carefully before starting the process. I am on chisangazgmail.com. Kind regards. |
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zipporah |
I used Livecd Koha 3.2. I think it comes with Ubuntu 10.10. |
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kf_away |
zipporah: rangi told you what needs to be done |
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kf_away |
writing up a tutorial takes time and I am sure this has also been discussed on the mailnig list |
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lastnode |
rangi: what i meant was, reinsatll from packages then just isntall with zebra and do koha-start-zebra |
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lastnode |
sorry if i wasnt clear! |
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rangi |
ah yeah, packages ftw :) |
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zipporah |
rangi or magnuse: how do I change NoZebra stting? Which parameter to touch? |
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kf_away |
it's a system preference under adminsitration |
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kt_away: thanks. I'll get at it now. |
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lastnode |
rangi: kf_away do you guys think a FAQish guide for getting a server ready for a koha install wouldbe useful? i kind of did it by patchingthings together fromhere and there these days, and with lots of help fromthis channel of course. but from stuff like setting up mysql to configuring iptables, do you think a guide of this nature would be useful for new users? |
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rangi |
i suspect there are probably a lot of guides for preparing a server to be a web application server, maybe finding one and linking to it is good |
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magnuse |
lastnode: more documentation is always welcome, i'd say. feel like writing it? putting it on the wiki might be a good start... |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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lastnode |
yeah, i dont want to reinvent the wheel or anything. there were just a couple of koha specific things i did that werent in the guides i follwed |
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lastnode |
let me look at it again and come back with a better pitch! |
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rangi |
i think the only specific thing would be to do with zebra |
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rangi |
mysql, apache etc are all pretty stock standard |
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* lastnode |
nods |
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lastnode |
i was thinking more like, setting up cron to koha-dump |
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lastnode |
rsyncing for backup |
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lastnode |
stuff like that |
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lastnode |
stuff that a good sysadmin woudl obviously do anyway, but stuff that ive just learnt over the past few weeks. |
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lastnode |
do i get points for 3 "stuff" in a row? |
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magnuse |
sure! ;-) |
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axknax |
hallo! :-D |
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kf_away |
say hi all to my coworker :) |
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magnuse |
guten tag axknax! |
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magnuse |
and welcome to the family ;-) |
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kf_away |
:) |
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axknax |
I'm a collegue of katrin here in Constance |
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magnuse |
axknax: lucky you! ;-) |
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magnuse |
working on koha? |
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axknax |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn |
axknax: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.4�C (12:38 PM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
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* jcamins_away |
yawns, and waves. |
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axknax |
I try to assist her |
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jcamins_away is now known as jcamins |
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magnuse |
good morning jcamins |
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magnuse |
axknax: lucky kf ;-) |
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rangi |
hi axknax |
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magnuse |
axknax: been working with kf long? |
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axknax |
since 2007, but with Koha since two years |
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magnuse |
cool |
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kf_away |
and a lot longer with horizon :) |
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magnuse |
but that's no fun, right? ;-) |
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kf_away |
it's different |
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axknax |
it has been a hard job with horizon, fortunately we have now only 20 horizon installations, it is nice to work with koha, easy to use and most times it does the thing we expect from it |
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magnuse |
yay, that's great to hear axknax |
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magnuse |
would you mind telling it to the librarians in norway too? ;-) |
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kf_away |
hehe |
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magnuse |
hope we will be seeing you around axknax - i'm off to find some lunch, bbl |
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kf_away |
once we are done with germany we can continue in norway ;) |
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axknax |
it is a long story - we have a specific german version of horizon, with special german features, but these functions causes several problems and the german functions were never integrated into the main developement - the concept of the open source developement philosophy is much better because of the wider community and transparecy |
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kf_away |
and before he runs out axknax++ |
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magnuse |
axknax++ |
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magnuse |
@karma axknax |
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huginn |
magnuse: Karma for "axknax" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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hdl |
kf_away: what have you been up to with RFID and 3M ? |
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kf |
hdl: because of the bugs? |
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kf |
hdl? |
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wahanui |
i guess hdl is sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding. |
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Brooke |
howdy y'all |
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magnuse |
kia ora Brooke |
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Brooke |
:) |
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hdl |
wahanui: forget hdl |
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wahanui |
hdl: I forgot hdl |
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Brooke |
hey hey nengard |
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nengard |
Hi Hi Brooke |
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* Brooke |
tries to look like Beau. |
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Brooke |
Are you going to do the survey? |
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Brooke |
and if you aren't, can I have the keys to the car so that I can do it? |
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nengard |
I'm confused |
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nengard |
what survey? |
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Brooke |
KohaCon2012 vote. |
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nengard |
oh |
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Brooke |
should basically say |
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nengard |
yeah sure i can do that |
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Brooke |
Yo! |
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Brooke |
Homie! |
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Brooke |
You want this in the UK? |
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Brooke |
No? |
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Brooke |
How bout Reno? |
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Brooke |
ta da |
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Brooke |
hooray! |
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Brooke |
thanks babe |
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Brooke |
nengard++ |
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Agent_Dani |
Morning! |
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nengard |
when do we need that by? |
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Brooke |
Mornin' sug |
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Brooke |
uhhh |
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nengard |
I should do it today since Monday I'm out of commission |
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* Brooke |
looks innocent. |
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Brooke |
woot |
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Brooke |
I like that answer :D |
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Brooke |
not the out of commission part |
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Brooke |
hey oleonard and irms |
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Topic for #koha is now 3.4.4 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC |
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Brooke |
ta owen |
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Brooke |
freggin' dc. I am caught between jorbs that require 40 years of experience in interface design, or unpaid internships. |
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oleonard |
At the moment I'm agreeing with Marcel that Solr integration is the definition of 4.0, but I'm concerned that that doesn't market well. Do we need to worry about marketing well? |
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* Brooke |
sighs. |
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Brooke |
I think |
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Brooke |
that we need to be very careful to separate emotions from objectives |
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Brooke |
and I also think that in doing so, we need to be touchy feely and sort out causes for emotions. |
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Brooke |
there shouldn't be any reason that we can't have both solR and zebra |
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magnuse |
*nods* |
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oleonard |
Is anyone arguing that we should have to choose? I'm not. |
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oleonard |
But I am arguing that we should limit what's on our plate for a 4.0 release. |
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Brooke |
normally I'd agree with the last part |
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Brooke |
but I think for the first release in a series |
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Brooke |
it should be what we dream |
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Brooke |
we haven't done a real dreamy release in a while |
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oleonard |
So you do believe we should worry about marketing well. |
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Brooke |
yessir |
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Brooke |
I am quite concerned that we don't give a fig in that department, and that it might cost us |
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Brooke |
that said marketing should never be more than the fruits of the labour |
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Brooke |
and we didn't get into this boat to lie; we'd be proprietary |
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Brooke |
but for lack of a better phrase |
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Brooke |
being nice won't kill us |
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Brooke |
nor will planning things out |
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drakmor |
hey, I'm running koha 3.04.02.000, and I'm getting a bug where the patron card number field doesn't automatically fill in even though I have autoMemberNum set to "do". Any fix for this? |
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kf_away |
drakmor: I am not aware of a bug ith this feature - perhaps check bugzilla for a bug report |
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kf_away |
jcamins_away: around? |
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drakmor |
@kf_away no bugs on the tracker :/ |
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huginn |
drakmor: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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drakmor |
RDA? |
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wahanui |
RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards |
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kf_away |
wahanui is our chatbot, he reacted to your use of @ |
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kf_away |
bugzilla? |
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wahanui |
i heard bugzilla was found at http://bugs.koha-community.org |
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drakmor |
ah |
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drakmor |
yeah, thats the one I checked |
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drakmor |
nothing there when I searched "autoMemberNum" |
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kf_away |
you can try the mailing list next or file a bug report |
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drakmor |
okay |
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drakmor |
hopefully the next update fixed this.... |
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drakmor |
that and the fact the patron import tool makes duplicate entries when I tell it to merge.... |
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kf_away |
oh |
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kf_away |
it shouldn't do that |
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drakmor |
I might have done it wrong |
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kf_away |
on what are you matching? |
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drakmor |
let me check |
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drakmor |
I'm pretty new to this so it's probably me |
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drakmor |
the only field it lets me match is cardnumber |
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drakmor |
can I use name or something else? |
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* kf_away |
nods |
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kf_away |
no, you can't use name |
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kf_away |
what you can do is use extended attributes that are marked as unique |
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kf_away |
administration > extended patron attributes |
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drakmor |
thanks |
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kf_away |
it's a way to configure more fields |
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drakmor |
okay, I'll take a look |
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kf_away |
I use it to add student id and use that for matching |
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drakmor |
thats exactly what I need |
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kf_away |
once you have the field defined as unique it will show up in the patron import |
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kf_away |
for matching |
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drakmor |
okay |
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kf_away |
we use 3.2.2 right now and the matchign works there |
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kf_away |
but I haven't tested it on our 3.4.4 installation yet - I made a note to do so |
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drakmor |
yeah, thats the issue then |
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drakmor |
I didn't notice that thing and didn't enter any card number on the patrons that already had numbers |
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kf_away |
ah |
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kf_away |
ok |
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drakmor |
yup |
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kf_away |
better than a bug :) |
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drakmor |
haha, that's for sure |
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drakmor |
another thing I'm probably doing something stupid with is the barcode printer |
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drakmor |
whenever I make one of the pdf's, the barcodes are shifted to one side.... |
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drakmor |
does that work for you? |
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kf_away |
sorry, we don't use that feature |
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drakmor |
okay, thanks |
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drakmor |
there's a few other bugs about autoMemberNum not working, but they're all from 3 or 4 years ago. Can I make a new one? |
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Brooke |
barcodes are cheap |
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Brooke |
very |
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Brooke |
very |
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Brooke |
cheap |
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drakmor |
yeah, we're just buying them at this point. I was just wondering |
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kf_away |
drakmor: you have to register first, but all it needs is an email address - after that you can file bugs. Make sure you give your version and how to reproduce |
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oleonard |
drakmor: You can always file a new bug if your issue doesn't seem to match existing ones. |
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kf_away |
drakmor: you can upload screenshots or write down your settings |
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drakmor |
okay |
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drakmor |
should I upload all my settings? I have no idea what might be causing this, since there's only this one setting that should affect it afaik |
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kf_away |
drakmor: I think mention that you have set automembernum |
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drakmor |
okay |
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drakmor |
okay, bug submitted. hopefully I did it right... |
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drakmor |
thanks for the help! |
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Brooke |
http://opensource.com/life/11/[…]ource-communities |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea++ |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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rhcl |
oi |
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rhcl |
"Researchers and community members have proposed reasons that keep women out of open source, but overlooked are social reasons" |
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kf_away |
hm? |
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Brooke |
can't wait til she properly publishes |
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Brooke |
just hope it's not behind a wall at like emerald or summat |
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kf_away |
I thin it's already published in a repository |
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kf_away |
or what do you mean by properly? |
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kf_away |
if we are talking about the same thing :) |
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Brooke |
I mean to my knowledge she was doing 2 things |
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Brooke |
a project for school |
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Brooke |
that needed doin asap |
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kf_away |
oh, I missed the link, ignore me |
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Brooke |
and a better study type thing that she'd take her time on and put out later |
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kf_away |
was thinking about something else |
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rhcl |
Brooke: with the topic, do you mean, of women in open source? |
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Brooke |
can a brotha get a rephrase? |
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Brooke |
if you mean the topic of the study type thing then yes |
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rhcl |
"and a better study type thing that she'd take her time on and put out later" <-> do you mean, of women in open source? |
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Brooke |
I should prolly shuddup before I misconstrue what she's doin |
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Brooke |
but um I think that what she's doing is cool and will be important |
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Brooke |
yes |
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Brooke |
yes rhcl definitely |
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rhcl |
ic |
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Brooke |
but her call for interviewees came like right after I did my initial draft for the same area of a survey I'm trying to block out right now |
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Brooke |
and I was like "Dude!" |
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Brooke |
then I was like "Hey! Can I help, cause we're doing something similarish." |
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Brooke |
then I was like "Well fine, if I do my crap anyway, are you gonna get touchy?" |
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* Agent_Dani |
finds Sarah to be an interesting person but, obviously, had different interactions. |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl that's definitely interesting |
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rhcl |
yea, secretly I'm trying to formulate some grand unifying theory (a la Einstein) about the differences I've observed in M-F gender differences in all things computer tech. |
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Brooke |
why be secret about it :P |
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Brooke |
that's the sort of plotting that is best out in the open :) |
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rhcl |
To avoid persecution. |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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Brooke |
yes |
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Brooke |
it would be terrible to be surrounded by angry, beautiful, intelligent women |
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Brooke |
fate worse than death I tells ye |
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Agent_Dani |
Not the comfy chair! |
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Brooke |
agent_dani++ |
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trea |
dun dun DUNNNN! |
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* kf_away |
hides |
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kf_away |
oh nice, bug 6831 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6831 enhancement, P5, ---, colin.campbell, REOPENED , Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records |
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kf_away |
I was talking about that to eythian yesterday |
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kf_away |
and now it's there |
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wizzyrea |
jeje |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6831] Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6831> |
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kf_away |
wizzyrea: ? |
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wizzyrea |
um... i'm behind, I was giggling at the varying responses to being surrounded by angry beautiful women |
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Brooke |
don't forget the intelligent part |
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Brooke |
it's a dependency |
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wizzyrea |
yes sorry, angry intelligent beautiful women |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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* Agent_Dani |
knows where wizzyrea's mind is. Good choice. |
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wizzyrea |
hi irma :) |
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lastnode |
is tehre an easy log of when a book was added |
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lastnode |
a record/item was added i mean |
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Irma |
Hi wizzyrea ... it's late for me ... thought I was going off to sleep but remembered I needed to send an email to MJ |
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Irma |
How are you? |
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wizzyrea |
i'm well, and you? |
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Irma |
so looking forward to KohaCon but for the moment run off my feet as there is much happening |
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Irma |
and I have a broken arm :-( |
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Irma |
cast is hopefully coming off in 3 weeks |
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wizzyrea |
oy! |
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wizzyrea |
sorry to hear about your arm, that is never fun |
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wizzyrea |
lastnode: you can look at the acquisition date in the record, or look at the modification log |
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wizzyrea |
for the bib |
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wizzyrea |
acq date is going to be under the items tab |
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wizzyrea |
as "accession date" |
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lastnode |
thanks wizzyrea |
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lastnode |
#koha, why you use awesome? |
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lastnode |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
I made an assumption, that you wanted to know when the *item* was added, as when you added the bib is (usually) less important. :) |
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wizzyrea |
aw |
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wizzyrea |
just helping :) |
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rhcl |
wizzyrea: is you guys thinking at all about purchasing a ".xxx" domain? Some here in Missouri are suggesting it should be considered. Like you might buy "nelks.xxx" or we might buy rhcl.xxx to prevent those from being registered. |
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wizzyrea |
truthfully I hadn't considered it |
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* wizzyrea |
tries to imagine what nekls .xxx content would look like... shudders |
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lastnode |
haha |
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lastnode |
way to go ICANNN |
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lastnode |
wizzyrea: is theresomeway i can see which user account added a certain item/record? |
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wizzyrea |
if you have logging on, you can see the borrowernumber of the person who added an item, yes |
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wizzyrea |
by twiddling knobs under the modification log tab |
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lastnode |
logging on? |
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lastnode |
but yeahm found it |
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trea |
logging enabled |
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lastnode |
tehre is a column called librarian which shows who added it |
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lastnode |
the number of the user. thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
mhm, it should be clickable :) |
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trea |
anybody on that feels like looking at a sql query |
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kf_away |
:) |
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kf_away |
trea: yep |
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trea |
http://pastebin.com/KtrJGwba |
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kf_away |
this looks familiar |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* we're working on similar things |
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trea |
trying to figure out why it's not finishing |
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kf_away |
hm |
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kf_away |
test database |
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wizzyrea |
(mine never finished either) |
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wizzyrea |
we really need some test data with fines. Hrmph. |
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trea |
i've imported a local db with fines; it just ran literally all night and never completed. |
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kf_away |
hm it finishes for me |
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kf_away |
0 results though |
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wizzyrea |
well you probably don't have those particular category codes |
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wizzyrea |
or fines over 60 days old? |
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kf_away |
wizzyrea: you are so right |
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kf_away |
it still finishes, but I don't meet the other criteria |
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kf_away |
a bit scared to try a real database |
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trea |
understandable. is why i was running it against a local copy |
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kf_away |
hm |
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kf_away |
it's fast on my other database |
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kf_away |
but I doubt it's right |
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kf_away |
reporting 44.00 euro due for every user |
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trea |
hmmm |
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trea |
that is definitely over $24.99 |
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trea |
:D |
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kf_away |
your format sum |
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kf_away |
I think it's summing up the whole table |
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kf_away |
not the entry for the borrower |
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kf_away |
hm |
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kf_away |
also I wonder |
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kf_away |
you don#t linke the accountlines and borrowers table together? |
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wizzyrea |
something like from borrowers join accountlines using(borrowernumber( |
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wizzyrea |
with correct parens of course |
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aarkerio |
hi! I the search options what means "Call number" ? |
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wizzyrea |
call number |
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wizzyrea |
n. |
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wahanui |
it has been said that call number is in the location |
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wizzyrea |
A number used in libraries to classify a book and indicate its location on the shelves. |
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wizzyrea |
so if you happen to know what a call number for a book is |
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wizzyrea |
you can search on that |
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kf_away |
wizzyrea: I think you need to ads someting link borrower.borrowernumber = accountlines.borrowernumber |
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kf_away |
when you use the syntax like it is now |
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aarkerio |
mmm, great, thx! |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
hi miguel and julian_ |
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julian_ |
hi wizzyrea |
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miguel |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
kf++ I think you're onto something |
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wizzyrea |
hee |
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chris_n |
for the record: the only fully functioning native win32 installation of Koha succumbed to a motherboard failure last week |
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* wizzyrea |
plays the dirge |
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chris_n |
well, I should say of the master branch of the main git repo |
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* chris_n |
thinks he hears rangi saying "good riddance" ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
to paraphrase mark twain - i've never wished a system dead, but I've read many post-mortems with glee |
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chris_n |
LOL |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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chris_n |
however, strawberry perl should pretty much fully support such an install with only a few minor caveats |
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wizzyrea |
hey that's cool |
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trea |
hehe |
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chris_n |
yeah, the folks that maintain strawberry and vanilla included the remaining critical modules a release or so ago just for us |
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wizzyrea |
oh wow! |
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* talljoy |
likes code named after food. mmmmmm |
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talljoy |
makes crunching data even tastier. |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n++ # persistance is paying off for you |
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matchew |
Hi, I had asked a question yesterday evening. It was a bit slow in here at the time. So, now that I am working on the problem again I thought I would ask my question once again |
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wizzyrea |
gopher it |
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wizzyrea |
as in, go for it. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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matchew |
at the end of the installion on centOS 5.6 I receive this error on localhost:80 or :8080 http://mibpaste.com/mvUVch |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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matchew |
I do recieve a similar issue when trying to start my zebraqueue_daemon.pl => http://mibpaste.com/p7h5Ug |
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matchew |
now, that issue of course is different |
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matchew |
the interesting thing about the 2nd issue is that was the error returned from make test |
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matchew |
and I ignored it, after google turned up the logs from this channel => http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-05-06#i_435450 |
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matchew |
I'm sort of stumped. Using CentOS it was pretty hard to get this far, and I'd like to figure this one out. |
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looks down the interstate to see if he can see gmcharlt |
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* wizzyrea |
thinks about this |
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matchew |
no problem, take your time. |
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matchew |
I'll likely be thinking about this all day |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: heh, we're practically neighbors nowadays |
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chris_n |
matchew: what perl version are you using? |
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chris_n |
matchew: also note that the zebraqueue daemon is best left unused ATM |
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wizzyrea |
yea, the only thing i'm seeing |
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wizzyrea |
is that it has to do with perl 5.8.8 |
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wizzyrea |
and when kmkale solved it, he updated to 5.10.0 |
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chris_n |
we currently require 5.10 |
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wizzyrea |
there you have it |
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wizzyrea |
either way, matchew, you can find out with perl -v |
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reiveune |
bye |
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matchew |
oh right |
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matchew |
so 5.8.8 |
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wizzyrea |
you are running 5.8.8? |
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wizzyrea |
we require 5.10 |
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wizzyrea |
that's five point ten |
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matchew |
right, |
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matchew |
okay |
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matchew |
that helps me a lot |
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wizzyrea |
let us know how it works out :) |
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matchew |
certainly |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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chris_n |
hi cait |
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chris_n |
lets go get some lunch |
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cait |
hi chris_n :) |
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wizzyrea |
woot cait's back |
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cait |
hehe |
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rhcl |
The new turkey sandwich @hardees is pretty good, and only 460cal. |
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nengard |
report help needed (I'm working with trea on this) - we have this: http://pastebin.com/7EveDisn but we need to add to it a check to see that the account hasn't had any payments in 60 days - and the check that's in there will find fines and payments so any ideas on how to add that limit would be great |
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nengard |
i feel like this bit "accountlines.date > DATE_SUB(CURDATE(),INTERVAL 60 DAY)" needs it's own WHERE statement to say where accounttype='PAY' or accounttype='C' |
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nengard |
but I don't know how to make that happen |
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trea |
http://pastebin.com/0SGf1aE7 this gives output, but i may be off |
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libsysguy |
can anybody tell me how issues gets populated |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
so my version didn't work? |
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cait |
libsysguy: when you checkout something? |
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* wizzyrea |
needs something along these lines as well |
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cait |
nengard: i see the problem hm |
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libsysguy |
yeah I am getting a message about an item being overdue when its clearly not |
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nengard |
issues should only be populated when an item is checked out or renewed |
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nengard |
cait any ideas? :) |
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cait |
nengard: check this: http://pastebin.com/V2xcP27f |
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cait |
and change the subquery to use statistics and payments? |
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wahanui |
cait: that doesn't look right |
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jwagner |
Anyone know anything about the issue in Bug 6854? I think it's the same problem that I'm seeing in multiple places including current head. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6854 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , import_borrowers.pl : Double password encryption on member update if there is no password in the csv and no default password value. |
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nengard |
cait that might work, updating now |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "collections report" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32 |
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nengard |
trea does that work? |
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cait |
http://pastebin.com/SmTGvaBv |
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cait |
like this perhaps |
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nengard |
cait there is no 'type' in accountlines |
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cait |
no, I was using statistics |
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nengard |
oh ... |
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cait |
didn's ee that there is an accounttype pay in accountlines |
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cait |
should be the same :) |
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maximep |
jwagner coworker did that patch |
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maximep |
*my |
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nengard |
that might work too |
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nengard |
trea you can use either cait's or mine and see if they work |
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nengard |
if they do then we should share on the wiki |
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wizzyrea |
yes, yes you should |
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nengard |
:) |
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jwagner |
maximep, I'm adding a comment to that bug report now -- want to see if it's the same issue -- can you have your coworker take a look in a couple of minutes? |
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maximep |
jwagner: sure |
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jwagner |
I'm pretty sure it is the same problem, but want to verify. |
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wizzyrea |
mine is chomping away |
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libsysguy |
eek mysql's time is not the same as my system time |
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cait |
libsysguy: that sounds strange |
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libsysguy |
well I did change the timezone we were in from UTC time to CDT last night |
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libsysguy |
and i think it is still on UTC time |
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maximep |
jwagner: ok hes looking at it and will answer soon =) |
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maximep |
in short : yes :p |
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wizzyrea |
cait, nengard, trea: taht definitely got results! |
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cait |
yay :) |
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nengard |
WOO HOO |
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trea |
which one? |
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wahanui |
somebody said which one was it |
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nengard |
wizzyrea which one? I'll put it on the wiki with the proper credits |
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cait |
check the sum and such things... that it#s right |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's my next step |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
I had only a very minimalistic data set to test with |
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nengard |
yeah me too |
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* wizzyrea |
is reviewing the criteria |
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wizzyrea |
still gotta get the patron categories in there |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
ez enuf I think |
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wizzyrea |
so newest date is the most recent any activity in accountlines? |
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jwagner |
maximep, thanks, and thank him for doing the bugzilla report/patch -- I was just about to create one because I hadn't found one when I searched the other day. Looks like he did his yesterday :-) |
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cait |
wizzyrea: yes, was not sure what is needed |
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nengard |
wizzyrea which rport worked? |
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nengard |
so i can add the patron data back in |
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nengard |
cait's? |
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wizzyrea |
cait's last |
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nengard |
thanks |
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nengard |
will update |
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cait |
wizzyrea: and didn#t have the right patron categories :) |
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libsysguy |
ok so I'm still getting that an item is overdue as soon as it it checked out (hourly) |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
does it have fines? |
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cait |
or only hsow up as overdue (red) |
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libsysguy |
no fines |
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cait |
perhaps some check is not ok? |
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libsysguy |
that is what I am wondering |
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cait |
is the due date calculated correctly? |
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cait |
and due time? |
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libsysguy |
although the circ librarian is now telling me that she changed something -_- |
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libsysguy |
and the due time is correct |
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cait |
hm |
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libsysguy |
so apparently they changed the shelving location...but they just changed it back and its still giving an overdue notice |
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cait |
no idea :( |
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libsysguy |
me either |
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libsysguy |
cait do you know if there is a function for overdues to check to see if an item is overdue |
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cait |
hm I think there is something used by the overdues script |
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cait |
but something else might be used to indicate it's overdue (mark it red) in patron's account |
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cait |
not sure |
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cait |
and not sure what's been changed for hourly loans |
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libsysguy |
im not even running that script |
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cait |
libsysguy: you don#t hve to - things will show up overdue (red) when the date calculation says they are |
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libsysguy |
so it is the circulation module that i need to be looking at? |
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cait |
I would start lookin gat the perl skript for the template where you see the overdue thing |
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libsysguy |
sekjal, cait are do you guys want to talk about notices? |
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cait |
i am here |
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cait |
almost forgot abou tthe meeting |
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libsysguy |
oh no! |
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libsysguy |
i wonder if sekjal forgot? |
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libsysguy |
im excited about doing it |
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sekjal |
I'm here |
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sekjal |
sorry, working on an urgent set of patches |
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libsysguy |
oh...do we need to wait? |
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sekjal |
no, I'm good |
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libsysguy |
ok cool |
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libsysguy |
so where do we start? |
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cait |
good question |
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cait |
let me open the wiki page |
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libsysguy |
i say with the delete button |
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cait |
delete? |
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cait |
first i would like to talk about the area |
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libsysguy |
yeah toss out notices...bad joke... |
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cait |
does cover notificatons fines too? |
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cait |
in your opinion? |
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libsysguy |
i think they will have to be touched |
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cait |
because I would love to see them tied closely together, or being able to sync overdue notices and overdue fines |
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sekjal |
I'd like to see a unified message system for all outgoing emails, printed pages, SMS and RSS |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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sekjal |
and for overdues, a more robust set of triggers |
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cait |
I think we could build on the existing structures for that |
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sekjal |
more than just 3 |
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cait |
but we should have print as an option |
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sekjal |
with fines included, along with debarring and such |
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cait |
sounds good to me |
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sekjal |
so, that's two large areas of change |
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cait |
notificatons = all messages we can send or only overdues? |
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libsysguy |
sounds good to me too |
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libsysguy |
all messages |
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libsysguy |
imo |
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cait |
ok |
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sekjal |
mine as well. overdue messages are just one type |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
so this is going to be big |
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sekjal |
okay, so we've got several areas to cover: |
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sekjal |
message creation and editing |
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sekjal |
message triggering |
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wizzyrea |
messages for print |
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cait |
delivery types |
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cait |
print, email, sms |
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cait |
i would like to see that configurable |
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sekjal |
delivery methods: print, email, sms, rss |
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cait |
not only falling back to print with no email |
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cait |
but being able to send a third or forth notice as print |
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sekjal |
formatting types: plaintext, HTML, short-message (140 char limit) |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
i think we should write that on the wiki page |
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cait |
or perhaps a google document? |
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libsysguy |
i agree |
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libsysguy |
can we log this chat? |
| 18:09 |
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sekjal |
yes, we need a work space to write down all these ideas |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: chat is logged |
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cait |
in google we could all write |
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wizzyrea |
chat is always logged ;) |
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libsysguy |
ok so who wants to set up that log |
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wizzyrea |
it's already logged |
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libsysguy |
wahanui is always watching |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
irc log? |
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cait |
the log is hard to read, i think we should do some structuring in a document while we are discussing |
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cait |
logs? |
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wahanui |
logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
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sekjal |
cait: agreed |
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cait |
ok, what can we use? |
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libsysguy |
im all for google docs |
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cait |
for marseille we had a google docs document, that was fun :) |
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sekjal |
works for me |
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cait |
but I don't have access to that i think, not sure how to open a new document |
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libsysguy |
sekjal doesn't bywater use google docs |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: we do |
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sekjal |
send me your preferred invite emails, and I'll add you to the doc |
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libsysguy |
tdavisuttyler.edu |
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rangi |
yo |
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rangi |
http://etherpad.org/ |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
evening rangi |
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rangi |
free software ftw |
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rangi |
and morning cait :) |
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cait |
:) |
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sekjal |
creating |
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wizzyrea |
(data entry sucks. That is all.) |
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cait |
wizzyrea: in what? |
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wizzyrea |
library thing for libraries/LibraryAnywhere |
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sekjal |
http://beta.etherpad.org/p/Koh[…]20sept%208%202011 |
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libsysguy |
P->V or V->V |
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wizzyrea |
I should be more specific: populating the address/phone/hours data for 39 libraries = not how I would like to spend my afternoon. |
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rangi |
if we like etherpad, we can set up etherpad.koha-community.org too |
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libsysguy |
sweet |
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sekjal |
it's working! |
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libsysguy |
excellent |
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libsysguy |
ok so what do we need to add |
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sekjal |
everyone else in channel is of course welcome to join this pad if you would like to contribute to this discussion at this time |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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cait |
i got kicked out and all my changes are lost :( |
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cait |
and disconnected again |
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libsysguy |
noo...actually I did too |
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sekjal |
and I |
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sekjal |
booo |
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cait |
booo |
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rangi |
not me |
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cait |
so you are alone now rangi :P |
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libsysguy |
rangi stop kicking us out |
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cait |
yeah, don't be so rude |
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rangi |
nope someone else is typing too |
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sekjal |
I'm back in |
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sekjal |
and now |
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sekjal |
out |
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libsysguy |
grr |
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rangi |
i suspect if you want to do it for real, you should pick one of the public sites |
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rangi |
not the demo/beta |
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cait |
grr |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
can't even copy my text although I still see it :( |
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rangi |
http://typewith.me/3gYf6ozqf4 |
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rangi |
try that |
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cait |
yay |
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cait |
who is violet? |
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libsysguy |
looks like sekjal |
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wizzyrea |
looks like sekjal |
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wizzyrea |
jinx |
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sekjal |
yes |
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* libsysguy |
wishes somebody pinch me so i can speak |
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rangi |
aww |
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* wizzyrea |
pinches libsysguy |
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rangi |
i liked my name better |
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libsysguy |
phew |
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rangi |
maybe to hit the save revisions link every so often |
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rangi |
maybe=member |
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rangi |
and if you guys dont hate this, let me know ill set up one on my linode server for the project to use |
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libsysguy |
i think it's ok...better than the other one |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I don't hate it right now |
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sekjal |
this is pretty neat |
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wizzyrea |
re: address change, you know currently patrons can't update their own addresses (and that's probably right) |
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cait |
notice to librarian - address change required |
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cait |
the mail is not understandable |
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wizzyrea |
AH |
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cait |
and not translatable (which is worse) |
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wizzyrea |
ok, I thought you meant outgoing to patron "your address has been changed" |
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cait |
that would be a neat feature too :) |
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cait |
´but needs some work on the address change - sending an email is not the best way to do it |
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cait |
should give you the informaton to compare in the patron account with options to accept / reject |
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wizzyrea |
re: the fast add notification, doesn't the fast add set a temp category code? |
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* wizzyrea |
may be dreaming about that |
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cait |
? |
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libsysguy |
i think sekjal has been thinking about this longer than I have |
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libsysguy |
lol |
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cait |
fast add wat? |
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wizzyrea |
under cataloging |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: you can set a temporary item type in the Framework as default, sure |
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aarkerio |
hi! I am having problems when a user wants send "Your cart" email to himself. I can send emails from command line |
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aarkerio |
any idea where can I look? |
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aarkerio |
or localize the error message? |
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rangi |
check the apache error logs to start with |
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rangi |
also check you mta logs |
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rangi |
see if its reaching the mta at least |
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aarkerio |
I apache log I am getting: |
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aarkerio |
preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /var/www/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/preferences.pl line 224. |
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aarkerio |
in /cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?op=search&searchfield=MTA |
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aarkerio |
I am getting: |
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aarkerio |
"No system preferences matched your search for MTA. You can try a different search or return to where you were before." |
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aarkerio |
224 line is: |
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aarkerio |
if ( $piece->{'pref'} =~ /^$searchfield$/i ) { |
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rangi |
no, your mail transport agent |
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rangi |
postfix, or exim4 or whatever :) |
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aarkerio |
oh yea! |
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rangi |
koha uses Mail::Sendmail which by default will try to connect to localhost port 25 to send mail, telnet localhost 25 |
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rangi |
you can use to check if its listening |
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rangi |
ok time to go catch my bus, bbl |
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aarkerio |
ok thanks again! |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal |
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wizzyrea |
question |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: shoot |
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wizzyrea |
i'm looking at the patch from colin on bug 3498 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
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wizzyrea |
see the NB: |
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rangi |
got the old bus today im pretty sure its older than me |
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wizzyrea |
does that affect what we were talking about a few days ago on patron search |
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wizzyrea |
er no |
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wizzyrea |
patrons with large numbers of checkouts? |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: NB? |
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sekjal |
ah, I see it |
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wizzyrea |
NB: Adds a version of the include circ-menu.inc as circ-menu.tt |
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wizzyrea |
this has the same functionality as the old include but does not |
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wizzyrea |
require all the borrowers attributes to be passed as global |
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wizzyrea |
scoped variables |
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sekjal |
in commit message |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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libsysguy |
rangi made me think of your last comment http://i.imgur.com/mplST.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, that might be a rabbit |
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wizzyrea |
(chasing rabbits, etc) |
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rangi |
heh thats a fail sign |
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libsysguy |
exactly lol |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: it may help reduce required processing...would have to pass it through NYTProf |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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wizzyrea |
but the partial fines payment looks good to me, though I noted one small anomaly with the error messages - sometimes in the error messages it computes out to like 10 decimal places. but not always? will test more. |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, that is probably due to Bug 3166 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3166 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Fines are summing off by 1 penny due to rounding issue when summing. |
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jwagner |
Or maybe not.... |
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wizzyrea |
oh that could be |
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* wizzyrea |
tries her best to break partial fines >:) |
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maximep |
are you thinking of merging partial fines for 3.6 ? |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't think to merge anything |
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* wizzyrea |
is only testing the available patch |
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maximep |
heh |
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sekjal |
maximep: I'd like to see that happen, assuming the testing goes well |
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maximep |
all I can tell is that were using it in production |
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rangi |
if it passes qa, it'll get merged |
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sekjal |
if it can get a signoff and through QA before the feature freeze date, then it's in |
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wizzyrea |
please tell me you don't hate it and that it works ok :) |
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maximep |
but that doesnt help :p |
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rangi |
that implementation of it maximep ? |
| 19:47 |
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maximep |
well I had to mess with it today |
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maximep |
rangi: we have some changes, but pretty much, yeah |
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rangi |
noting on the bug that u are using it helps |
| 19:47 |
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maximep |
most of our patches were sent |
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maximep |
by fcapo |
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rangi |
k |
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maximep |
hard for me to say what is different on our side :/ |
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rangi |
linking them together with depends etc would help a lot too |
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wizzyrea |
maximep: what version are you running? |
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maximep |
well |
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maximep |
in theory it could be called a fork... but 3.2.3 |
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wizzyrea |
ah cool |
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maximep |
rebasing everything on 3.6 in the next months |
| 19:52 |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans :) |
| 19:52 |
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maximep |
hundreds of hours of fun |
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wizzyrea |
whee! |
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wizzyrea |
anybody out there have selenium installed? |
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wizzyrea |
I have a test case with the patch for 3498, i wonder if you'd care to see if my test case works for you |
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maximep |
I wish I had time to help :/ |
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maximep |
I guess I could take a few minutes to run it with selenium ide |
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cait |
wizzyrea: ask me again on thursday? |
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cait |
I am postponing all that is fun until then |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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* chris_n |
has had all of the DBIx fun he can stand for one day |
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chris_n |
off in search of food |
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wizzyrea |
gl |
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libsysguy |
good luck |
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cait |
rangi: we love it :) |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
ill see about setting about a dedicated one |
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libsysguy |
anybody know anything about the circulation module that is supposed to be in 3.6? |
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rangi |
what circulation module? |
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rhcl |
funny |
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libsysguy |
I thought I read something about a rewrite of circulation was coming in 3.6? |
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cait |
if you mean circ enhancments that#s not so likely right now |
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cait |
the big bug |
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libsysguy |
yes yes...circ "enhancements" |
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libsysguy |
I was jw if there was a place I could check it out and poke around with it |
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cait |
the problem is it' s really big |
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cait |
and it clashes with a lot of other stuff that could go in 3.6 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 3498 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it bug 3498 is a fairly old implementation that colin updated. It just popped up because I added 'needs signoff' |
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cait |
like allowonshelfholds in circ matrix or hourly loans |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
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wizzyrea |
if ppl want to play with selenium, I attached a couple of tests. I don' tknow if they'll work though? |
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rangi |
selenium is sometimes persnickety |
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libsysguy |
yeah hourly loans |
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libsysguy |
thats the one i really need lol |
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rangi |
if i get a chance ill have a go |
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wizzyrea |
well they run for me ^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
no errors |
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rangi |
cool |
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maximep |
wizzyrea: looking at them. Probably not a good idea to put a selenium.base in your test |
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wizzyrea |
ok, i am new to this, so I"m not sure what you mean |
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wizzyrea |
oic |
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wizzyrea |
i hink |
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wizzyrea |
think |
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maximep |
well when I open them in selenium ise it puts it as the base url |
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maximep |
http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.org |
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wizzyrea |
I see |
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wizzyrea |
how do you make it portable |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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maximep |
good question |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, you could just go in, edit it to your base |
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maximep |
not sure... maybe just put nothing and the user will add it |
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wizzyrea |
just text right? |
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wizzyrea |
OH |
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wizzyrea |
oh oh |
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wizzyrea |
set your base URL |
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wizzyrea |
at the top |
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wizzyrea |
open it, and set your base URL |
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maximep |
I know |
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maximep |
just telling you that u might not want to share yours |
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wizzyrea |
oh, idc |
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wizzyrea |
thank you for your concern. :) |
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maximep |
well there's no way your test to create a patron will work on my bd, but that's because of local changes -_- |
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wizzyrea |
the hazards I guess ;) |
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wizzyrea |
but thank you for looking it over |
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wizzyrea |
but yes, that is very good to know... I wiill try to remember to add the help that you may need to change your base url to run the test |
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maximep |
wizzyrea: anyway, sorry, but my install is way too far from 4.4 to help you run the entire test |
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wizzyrea |
all good :) |
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wizzyrea |
the add patron one is on current master, and the fines add/pay one is master + the patch |
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rangi |
oh and |
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rangi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQqogKePbI |
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rangi |
oh look my house |
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wizzyrea |
rly? |
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rangi |
(Not really :)) |
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wizzyrea |
cheeky. |
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trea |
heh |
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rangi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhbavFpWZk |
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rangi |
you'll be sick of me after 45 days of this :) |
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wizzyrea |
unlikely |
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cait |
:) |
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ibeardslee |
/ignore rangi ? |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
i had to do /ignore whingers who cant ignore things themselves the other day :) |
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aarkerio |
hi where can I see how many books already are in the database? |
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wizzyrea |
select count(*) from items; |
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wizzyrea |
in your saved reports |
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wizzyrea |
or created from sql reports |
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wizzyrea |
you'll probably have to add it |
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aarkerio |
There is not a report page in admin section? |
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wizzyrea |
aarkerio: |
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wizzyrea |
v |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/gepGBLxgdy |
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aarkerio |
wizzyrea, great! thanks a lot! |
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wizzyrea |
yw |
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wizzyrea |
you know it would be cool to have a saved report that gave you that snapshot count |
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wizzyrea |
bibs/patrons/items right now |
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wizzyrea |
total owed in fines |
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cait |
I think the dashboard could do that |
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wizzyrea |
you mean put that count on the home page? |
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cait |
perhaps |
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cait |
or have a new built in report |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I was thinking |
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wizzyrea |
a new builtin |
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cait |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
or on the catalogue statistics page |
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rangi |
yeah the dashboard would be good to do that |
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rangi |
id like it show things like |
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rangi |
in the last hour 141422 items were issued |
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rangi |
too |
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wizzyrea |
oo |
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sekjal |
user. configurable. widgets. |
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* wizzyrea |
squees |
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magnus_afk |
yay! |
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rangi |
the trick is make the report engine hand out json |
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rangi |
and then add caching |
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rangi |
and we have a webservice |
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rangi |
then you can just add widgets that format that json nicely |
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rangi |
done |
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cait |
sounds so easy when you talk abou tit :) |
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magnus_afk |
we need to find a way to make rangi do it, for example to prove how easy it would be... ;-) |
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cait |
hehe |
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rangi |
ask me again after october 22 |
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ibeardslee |
or earlier if the ABs choke? |
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* magnus_afk |
makes a note to do that ;-) |
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rangi |
naw, thats when im no longer RM |
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* wizzyrea |
is off to make mac and cheese for the kiddo's family pot luck at school tonight |
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wizzyrea |
wish me luck :) |
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cait |
good luck? |
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magnus_afk |
good luck wizzyrea |
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magnus_afk |
g'night #koha |
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rangi |
cya magnus_afk |
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cait |
good night all :) |
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sekjal |
good night, #koha! |
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rangi |
http://etherpad.koha-community.org:9000/ |
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eythian |
oh, useful |
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eythian |
although, it's got its own domain, I'd run it on :80 |
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rangi |
yeah i tried doing that |
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rangi |
its not happy about it |
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rangi |
its not apache its a big java stack, and the mod_proxy was wigging out like mental |
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rangi |
figured i wouldnt kill bugs.kc playing with it ;) |
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eythian |
heh OK |
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