IRC log for #koha, 2011-08-18

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00:03 libsysguy thanks for pushing that rangi
00:04 rangi no worries
00:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #383: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/383/
00:04 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 6744 - Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators
00:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6744 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators
00:04 rangi[…]ristie-on-swpats/  <-- my boss takes on a silly lawyer
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00:19 mtj strong in Don, is the force...
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00:23 Judit hi
00:24 mtj hey Judit
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00:54 libsysguy so im having some trouble calling patronflags
00:54 libsysguy i am using other functions from successfully
00:54 libsysguy but I am getting Undefined subroutine &main::patronflags called at ... when i run my script
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01:27 mtj ... patronflags() is not exported
01:29 mtj @later tell member:libsysguy patronflags() is not exported
01:29 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded.
01:30 mtj hmm, not sure if that @later worked
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02:56 druthb :)  o/
02:56 rangi
03:17 bg heya druthb
03:17 bg I like eythian's post on google+  of the turdoor turlock one
03:17 druthb hi, bg.  :)
03:18 bg yo druthb++
03:18 * druthb hasn't done nuffin!
03:18 bg heh
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03:18 * bg don't believe that one
03:19 druthb just doin' mah job, boss.
03:25 * druthb swears in a most unladylike fashion.
03:29 druthb my Symphony patron-data masher is gagging on too much data.  I was throwing all the borrowers into a great ol' big array of hashes, but that may not work once the number of borrowers is very large.  :P
03:35 eythian ah yeah
03:35 eythian gotta watch that
03:35 eythian also, you'll find a perl process will take forever to terminate if you've allocated huge structures
03:35 eythian I don't know what it does, but it's safe to ^C it at that point
03:37 rangi can you chunk them?
03:38 eythian I've been meaning to write something that will compare file modification times, and write out to a tied hash file if need be.
03:38 rangi yeah
03:38 rangi tie is what i was gonna suggest if it was chunkable easily
03:39 rangi if you want to get funky there is DBM::Deep
03:39 eythian I'm sure there's a mongodb interface :D
03:39 rangi or you could sqlite
03:40 rangi[…]/lib/DBM/Deep.pod
03:40 rangi ive been wanting an excuse to play with it, just for the hell of it
03:40 eythian hmm, nifty
03:43 rangi CPAN?
03:43 wahanui is there anything it cant do
03:44 eythian huh?
03:44 rangi its a simpsons line
03:44 rangi donuts, is there anything they cant do
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03:44 kmkale Namaskar #koha
03:47 kmkale In a mail to the lists on August 11th, I had proposed a volunteers meeting for today at 16.00 UTC. I will be around in case anybody wants to discuss anything..
03:47 kmkale Not sure anybody does cause I did not get a single reply to the mail
03:52 druthb I'm having it write them as it finishes each borrower; creating the borrower CSV is a bit tidier if you know up front what fields you'll have, but it's okay to have a bunch of empty ones, if not.
03:53 druthb simple, few moving parts, and it *works*.  (and it makes sense to me at midnight and later.)
03:59 druthb Namaskar, kmkale. :)
04:05 rangi :)
04:06 eythian yeah, in my case I need to hold a handful of large files in memory while I run through the main one, so I need to use something more sensible than that at some stage soon.
04:10 druthb I use a lot of "my @matches = qx{grep ....};" for that sort of thing.  my key is at the head of the line, so I can get away with that.
04:10 druthb Overhead, yeah, but beats trying to sqeeze the whole thing into memory.
04:14 eythian in this case, it's faster to put into memory, as it'd make the lookup ~50,000 times slower otherwise.
04:14 kmkale Namaste druthb
04:14 kmkale Namaste rangi
04:14 eythian But a real indexed data structure is the best way, I just haven't got around to it
04:14 kmkale Namaste eythian
04:14 eythian hihi
04:20 * druthb is off to bed.  g'night.
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04:21 Brooke kia ora
04:21 rangi hiya Brooke
04:22 rangi[…]ession/index.html   <-- for people like me who live in screen
04:23 * Brooke suspects if she were cleverer, she could work that into this UI thang.
04:24 kmkale Namaste Brooke
04:24 kmkale :)
04:24 Brooke namaste
04:25 kmkale rangi: a quick tip about screen please? How to scroll bacl while in screen?
04:25 kmkale *back
04:26 rangi whats you meta key? ctrl-a ?
04:26 kmkale meta key?
04:27 rangi ctrl+a is the default
04:27 rangi so ctrl+a [
04:28 rangi enters copy mode
04:28 rangi then you can use the arrow keys
04:28 * kmkale is trying it out
04:28 rangi ctrl+b page up, ctrl+f down
04:28 rangi ctrl+a ]
04:29 rangi to get back out of copy mode
04:29 kmkale yooo hoo :)
04:29 kmkale Thanks rangi
04:29 rangi no worries
04:30 eythian esc gets out of copy mode a little faster
04:30 rangi actually ctrl+esc gets you into copy mode faster too
04:31 kmkale Brooke: I want to thank you for all the reviews.
04:31 kmkale rangi: not on windows
04:31 Brooke no trouble mate
04:31 rangi or maybe its ctrl+a esc
04:31 Brooke can't say that I'd do them then not do them, aye?
04:31 kmkale rangi: not that either. opens the start menue
04:31 rangi stick with [ then ;)
04:32 kmkale Brooke: and I shamelessly dumped many on you
04:32 Brooke are there duplicates of the abstracts, or do we really have over 40ish?
04:32 kmkale rangi: yah. been pulling my hair for long
04:32 Brooke kmkale: there's precious little I do for the community, so I might as well do what I can.
04:33 kmkale Brooke: thare are 21 in review
04:33 kmkale one of them is rejected
04:33 kmkale so 20
04:33 Brooke hmph
04:33 Brooke could have sworn I saw #40summat on one of mine.
04:33 kmkale the rest of 40 are mostly abandoned attempts
04:33 Brooke ah
04:33 kmkale yep you are right
04:33 Brooke 20's great though
04:34 kmkale 20 plus the panel discussions means we are good
04:34 Brooke preciso
04:34 kmkale iven if a few cant make it to the conference
04:34 Brooke indeed
04:34 Brooke downtime at conference is a plus
04:34 kmkale plus we have rangi doing a remote one ;)
04:34 Brooke and we can always jigger a couple on the spot presos
04:34 Brooke if there's TOO much downtime
04:36 Brooke we still have Shah Rukh Khan doing the keynote, right?
04:36 * Brooke is engaging in Retardican Strategery. If she says it enough, it MUST be true.
04:38 kmkale Brooke: Savitra has promised a couple of presentations too.
04:38 Brooke sweet
04:38 kmkale Brooke: Yah you sure you can make Jo look like him?
04:38 Brooke clearly I just needs drink more :P
04:38 kmkale :)
04:39 Brooke she *does* want a pant suit
04:39 kmkale if she gets in the gym now and emerges only for the flight to India, she might get the six pack abs too ;)
04:39 Brooke ha!
04:39 Brooke womenwithsixpackabs--
04:40 Brooke the olde man at the gym that taught me exhaustion reps a LONG time ago when animals could talk and I was a wee wisp of a thing
04:40 Brooke very nearly had me with a six pack
04:40 Brooke I had the centre line
04:40 kmkale aaah but you wantshar rukh for the keynote so poor Jo must work out
04:40 Brooke and then I said "Self, this is nuts. I do not WANT a six pack."
04:41 Brooke Jo > SRK
04:41 * kmkale is scared of Brooke now.
04:41 Brooke just now?
04:42 Brooke Cait's been scairt for years :P
04:42 kmkale yah. I am not scared of talk but six packs? scary..
04:42 Brooke that for women
04:42 Brooke I am absolutely convinced
04:42 Brooke requires a nautilus ab machine
04:42 Brooke and you have to max stack at exhaustion reps
04:43 Brooke and then as if that's not enough
04:43 Brooke you needs do the crazy lower ab crap with the flat bench
04:43 * kmkale has no clue since he has never been inside a Gym
04:43 Brooke "Ohhhh the GYM" -- Homer Simpson
04:44 * ibeardslee has started going and has realised that you actually have to do more than just turn up
04:44 Brooke
04:44 Brooke just turning up is the first step
04:44 kmkale gotta go. BBL
04:44 Brooke cheers
04:45 eythian and the first step is the whole workout. Done.
04:45 Brooke nooo that's the second step :P
04:45 Brooke I'm thinking the 13thish step is when you realise that you're fat as and have to go back, like me ;)
04:46 Brooke though if I were thin again, I'd lose my one and only threat of sitting on Rangi.
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04:53 Judit you cannot take seriously any study which not recommends eating chocolate
04:53 Brooke I concur Judit
04:53 Brooke you are only further cementing my opinion of you as good people.
04:54 Judit this is a basic rule
04:54 Brooke indeed
04:54 Brooke in especial with the antioxidants present in proper dark chocolate.
04:54 Brooke we must get our antioxidants, yes?
04:55 Judit a lot of it
04:55 wahanui i think a lot of it is just making sure we get our books back
04:55 Brooke pro!
04:55 Brooke wahanui botsnack chocolate dark enough to absorb sunlight.
04:55 wahanui :)
04:56 Brooke the code4lib bot is super fresh. I suppose this happens when the channel is not publicly logged XD
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05:48 cait good morning #koha
05:48 cait hi magnuse
05:48 Brooke guten morgen
05:48 magnuse hiya cait & Brooke & #koha
05:48 cait Brooke?
05:48 wahanui well, Brooke is absolutely convinced
05:49 cait go to bed!
05:49 Brooke eeep
05:49 Brooke busted.
05:49 Brooke Adrenaline has worn off anyway
05:49 magnuse we see you"
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05:50 cait wow
05:50 cait it worked
05:51 eythian cait: get out out bed
05:51 eythian *of
05:51 cait :P
05:51 cait I am not so easy
05:55 magnuse hehe
05:55 magnuse cait has special powers! ;-)
05:57 cait hmpf
06:04 magnuse yay, looks like the generalization of the l10n stuff for the packages is starting to come together!
06:04 eythian wahanui: amirite
06:04 wahanui eythian: sorry...
06:04 eythian wahanui: amirite is <reply>
06:04 wahanui OK, eythian.
06:04 eythian amirite?
06:04 wahanui
06:04 eythian magnuse: indeed it does :)
06:05 magnuse but is the problem with the missing JS solved too?
06:06 eythian I don't know. I've been too busy to actually look at it. I've just been throwing in ideas and watching you and Srdjan work on it.
06:06 eythian It's like I'm a manager or something
06:06 magnuse hehe
06:06 magnuse in your dreams, mate ;-)
06:06 eythian I think the missing JS would be pretty easy to solve really
06:06 eythian Just symlink or something
06:07 eythian but I'd have to look closer at how it's supposed to look before I really talk like I know anything
06:07 magnuse well that's thr weird thing, ln -s seems to work for YUI but not for TinyMCE
06:07 eythian hmm. I wonder if we're using system tinymce
06:08 magnuse it's used for the news items at least
06:08 magnuse *editing* news items, of course
06:08 eythian yeah, I mean if we're using debian TinyMCE or bundling one
06:08 magnuse in koha it's bundled, but the packages removes the bundled one and links in the debian one
06:09 magnuse +       rm -r $(TMP)/translations/intranet/__L10N__/js/tinymce
06:09 magnuse +       ln -s /usr/share/tinymce2/www $(TMP)/translations/intranet/__L10N__/js/tinymce
06:10 magnuse that's from the latest commit:[…]490c8bf2bd2c512cb
06:10 eythian ah right
06:10 eythian It'd be worth seeing what that actually creates, and how that jibes up with where things are in the system.
06:11 magnuse but for me the rm'ing was erroring out, causing the whole build to fail
06:12 eythian yes, it shouldn't be there. That's because we rm out the en version, and then copy everything for the new version.
06:12 eythian So it doesn't get copied, so it's not there.
06:12 eythian So it can't be deleted
06:12 magnuse yeah, something like that
06:13 eythian it makes sense in my head :)
06:13 magnuse yay! ;-)
06:15 magnuse i'll give the newest code from sdrjan a spin today or tomorrow and see what happens
06:16 magnuse i did comment out the rm's and completed the build - after that YUI was in it's place but not tinymce, which is just weird
06:18 eythian yeah
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06:23 alex_a bonjour
06:24 magnuse hiya alex_a
06:27 alex_a hi magnuse :)
06:35 cait bonjour alex_a
06:37 alex_a bonjour cait :)
06:43 cait BYE
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06:43 cait sorry capslock
06:43 reiveune hello
06:43 wahanui hi, reiveune
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07:00 magnuse bbiab
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07:09 kf morning #koha
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07:10 francharb morning everyone
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07:14 kf hi francharb
07:24 kf francharb: thx for your explanation on the list!
07:24 kf francharb: can you tell when the development will be submitted?
07:25 francharb thnks kf
07:25 kf I also wondered about the influence on the tax and the fields selected in the vendor
07:25 francharb we are still working with the library who sponsored these developpement
07:25 kf ok
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07:28 kf do you have documentation about how the tax calculation should work?
07:29 kf we talked about it a while ago but I still haven't found the time to realyl work on it :(
07:29 francharb kf: i'm working on rfc every second friday and it's pretty long since we did a lot for this library but this friday, i will try to do something clear for you! ;)
07:30 kf that would be nice :)
07:30 francharb especially on the tax calculation
07:30 francharb ;)
07:30 kf I am most interested in the featuers present now
07:30 kf because perhaps we can fix it a little until your bigger feature comes in
07:31 kf francharb++ :)
07:31 francharb :)
07:32 francharb i get back to you tomorrow with all the details ;)
07:33 kf thx a lot
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08:37 rangi evening
08:40 magnuse morning
09:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6640, Locations not showing in circ reports <[…]7e382364bf4d79312> / Bug 6714 : Removed the "en" in some paths of opac.css <[…]503530f1dc4f5f0a5> / Fix for Bug 6743 - displayFacetCount not working <;
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09:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6486 - make koha-mysql get installed with the packages <[…]d06dc510ba66af4cc> / Bug 6486 - add the koha-mysql command <[…]0945a0fe9c99f1127> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6458' into kcmaster <[…]web/?p=koha.git;a
09:40 magnuse koha-mysql? nice!
09:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #384: SUCCESS in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/384/
09:49 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6743 - displayFacetCount not working
09:49 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6714 : Removed the "en" in some paths of opac.css
09:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6743 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , displayFacetCount not working
09:49 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6640, Locations not showing in circ reports
09:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6714 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , opac.css uses files in the /en/ directory when using other languages
09:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6640 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed
09:50 jenkins_koha Starting build 385 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:57 rangi yeah the packages are getting really good
09:57 magnuse they sure are
09:58 magnuse i've got 2 responses on my "generous offer" so far - setting up new instances is a breeze
09:58 magnuse and it that offer would not have been possible without the packages
09:58 magnuse catalyst++
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10:02 rangi the koha on ubuntu thread is depressing
10:04 magnuse because of the non-official docs?
10:05 rangi yeah and the doing it the weird/wrong/hard way
10:06 magnuse yeah
10:06 magnuse i wonder how we could make people more aware of the INSTALL.* files?
10:07 rangi yeah, not sure .. i mean they are sitting right there
10:07 magnuse yup
10:08 rangi and for installing on ubuntu there is a ppa with packages for natty
10:08 magnuse but on the other hand, it might be somewhat natural to look for help *on the web*, not inside that package you just downloaded
10:09 magnuse ah, yes i saw that somewhere
10:09 magnuse but i forget where
10:09 magnuse is it documented somewhere? the wiki?
10:09 rangi
10:09 magnuse i wonder if putting the INSTALL-files on the wiki would make them more visible?
10:10 rangi people dont seem to look there either
10:11 rangi maybe name the tarball
10:11 rangi koha-3.4.3-read-the-damn-INSTALL-file.tar.gz
10:11 magnuse well, some people seem to find the various install documents on the wiki, but not the INSTALL files...
10:11 magnuse hehe
10:11 magnuse your call! ;-)
10:13 magnuse a search for "install koha debian" on google turns up​/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze as the first hit
10:13 rangi yep
10:13 rangi what about ubuntu?
10:13 magnuse "install koha"... not so much
10:14 rangi id suspect ppl running debian would know to read INSTALL files, but that might be my bias :)
10:14 magnuse might be ;-)
10:14 magnuse ouch, first hit for "install koha ubuntu" is[…]untu-904-910-1004 - Installing Koha (harley) on Ubuntu 9.04,9.10,10.04
10:15 magnuse but second hit is[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
10:15 rangi right
10:16 magnuse not quite sure what that is
10:16 rangi maybe just replace that with links to the install files
10:17 magnuse google seems to like mediawiki sites, so maybe if we put the INSTALL files on the wiki and gave them the "best" names it would do some good
10:17 rangi yeah cant hurt
10:17 rangi the trick will be keeping them up to date
10:17 magnuse i also had an idea of putting a box on every single installation page oin the wiki saying please try the official files first
10:18 magnuse yeah, keeping them up to date is the trick
10:18 magnuse i could voluteer to be look after that, for exmaple
10:18 rangi that would be cool
10:19 magnuse wow, spelling is hard...
10:21 magnuse and there should be some guidance on how to change them - "do not edit this page, edit the files or tell someone to do it for you"
10:22 magnuse make it go through the proper channels
10:23 magnuse the pages could even be locked so they couldn't be edited willy nilly
10:24 magnuse or there could ba locked page and another page with the text that could be open for suggestions/improvements
10:24 magnuse s/ba/be a/
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10:25 slef hi all
10:25 slef oh, the wiki install docs again :(
10:25 Oak hi slef
10:25 magnuse kia ora slef
10:25 Oak hello #koha
10:25 Oak magnuse
10:25 magnuse Oak
10:25 rangi right, new packages from master building
10:26 magnuse yay
10:31 kf 2.5 hour meeting...
10:32 kf and i have to write the protocol
10:32 magnuse ouch
10:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #385: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/385/
10:33 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6482 - allow the mysql details to be changed during koha-create
10:33 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6458 Template Toolkit files test case
10:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about the mysql username
10:33 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6486 - add the koha-mysql command
10:33 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6486 - make koha-mysql get installed with the packages
10:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
10:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6486 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Need a quick way to access mysql as the user for a koha instance
10:33 magnuse woohoo!
10:34 kf :)
10:34 kf I wonder why jenkins is happy
10:35 magnuse why shouldn't he be? ;-)
10:35 kf rangi: I see you pushed the translation test - is that test running
10:35 kf ?
10:36 kf bug 6458
10:37 rangi it will now
10:38 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
10:38 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
10:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 386 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:38 rangi it will fail
10:38 rangi but now ppl can send patches to make it pass
10:42 kf yep :)
10:42 kf I wanted to work on that
10:42 magnuse yay that looks cool
10:42 kf but you were faster:)
10:42 magnuse ...and useful
10:42 kf which is not so surprising... because I am way behind on my todo list
10:44 rangi
10:44 rangi from the man who brought you the koha packages :)
10:45 liw *blushes*
10:45 magnuse liw++
10:46 magnuse "So, what have I learned during these twenty years? Most importantly, everyone can make a difference." yay!
10:47 rangi :)
10:47 kf liw++
10:47 rangi very nice writeup liw, and im not even unconcious :)
10:48 liw rangi, have you considered opening up your own marketing bureau? :)
10:48 rangi hehe
10:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6747] Additional check in opac-export <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6747>
10:50 magnuse ooh, Troms� is the first norwegian university to say they will prefer buying e-books over printed books (they were also first to get rid of printed journals)
10:51 rangi magnuse: are you allowed to say who/where your two first hosted koha ppl are?
10:51 rangi liw: did you see this ? (its using the packages)
10:52 liw rangi, cool!
10:52 magnuse rangi: in norway ;-) hm, one works at the national library and the other is a student
10:52 kf oh cool
10:52 kf national library!
10:52 rangi hehe
10:53 kf hm seems slef is going to look at bug 6458 :)
10:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
10:53 rangi cool
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10:54 magnuse and the beta testers work at a public library and a university college - so there are 4 in all now
10:54 rangi awesome
10:55 magnuse and we're just getting started ;-)
10:55 rangi yup
11:02 rangi chris_n must be awake
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11:11 magnuse lunch!
11:12 magnuse rangi: either that or he is cherry picking commits in his sleep ;-)
11:12 rangi ;)
11:13 magnuse hm, if koha-mysql is in 3.4.x there are probably some other package-related stuff that could/should be there too?
11:13 kf :)
11:13 magnuse or maybe i just missed them getting in there...
11:14 rangi hmm might be worth checking
11:15 rangi ok, sleep time cyas tomorrow
11:15 kf good night rangi
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11:30 Oak liw, excellent read, loved it:
11:30 liw thanks
11:31 Oak :) and not long at all, ended too soon
11:37 kf :)
11:37 kf Oak
11:37 Oak kf
11:38 Oak :) how are you?
11:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #386: UNSTABLE in 1 h 1 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/386/
11:39 kf fine
11:39 kf writing a looong protocol
11:41 magnuse uh oh, i can sense a disturbance in the force
11:41 kf you can?
11:41 kf oh
11:41 kf yes
11:42 kf I feel it too
11:43 slef kf: no, jenkins_koha mentioned it as being included, it was PATCH-Sent, so I should have just updated status to reflect that frederic is working on it.
11:43 slef If I assigned it to myself, then error
11:45 kf not sure fredericd is - was the bug assigned to him?
11:45 kf ah, it probably was... because he was working on the test
11:57 kmkale Namaste kf & magnuse
11:57 kmkale Namaste slef
11:58 magnuse namaskar kmkale
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12:00 kf hi kmkale
12:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #36: SUCCESS in 57 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/36/
12:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6743 - displayFacetCount not working
12:03 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6714 : Removed the "en" in some paths of opac.css
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6743 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , displayFacetCount not working
12:03 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6482 - allow the mysql details to be changed during koha-create
12:03 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6458 Template Toolkit files test case
12:03 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6486 - add the koha-mysql command
12:03 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6486 - make koha-mysql get installed with the packages
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6714 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , opac.css uses files in the /en/ directory when using other languages
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about the mysql username
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6486 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Need a quick way to access mysql as the user for a koha instance
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12:28 chris_n magnuse: please let me know if you see package related commits not in 3.4.x which should be
12:28 magnuse chris_n: cool, i'll have a look tomorrow!
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12:40 kf chris_n: any news from fredericd?
12:41 kf I think you picked my change for Set library into 3.4 and there shoudl be at least one translation change now for 3.4 -
12:50 chris_n kf: he sends along a pull request the morning of the 22nd usually
12:51 kf chris_n: yes, but the files need an update too before that
12:51 kf hmhm
12:51 chris_n kf: shoot him an email
12:52 chris_n kf: I'm not familiar with the logistics of translation/pootle, sorry :-(
12:53 kf it's ok
12:54 * chris_n prefers chocolate labs to "pootles" personally ;-)
12:59 * oleonard wonders what you have to cross a poodle with to get a pootle. A kettle?
13:00 magnuse mmm, chcocolate...
13:00 kf hehe
13:02 chris_n lol
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13:13 Agent_Dani Hi
13:13 Agent_Dani \o
13:13 magnuse o/
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13:26 slef hi kmkale
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13:29 oleonard Grr... AT&T did "maintenance" last night and now our internet is in 56K territory
13:30 magnuse ooh, a free downgrade!
13:36 * oleonard can't even git fetch
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13:40 kf horror!
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14:00 * Agent_Dani just got a good memory test - try to remember every place that she has spent at least 7 consecutive days in the past 13 years.
14:02 kf lol
14:02 kf visa application?
14:02 Agent_Dani Nope; establishing state residency to qualify for in-state tuition rates.
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14:03 Agent_Dani They also require a copy of my last income tax filing.
14:03 kf hm, that makes kind of sense - the other not so much
14:04 Agent_Dani It would if not for the fact that they've already asked for just about everything related that appears on that form.
14:04 * Agent_Dani envisions fun with that because her taxes were filed under her former name.
14:05 * kf offers cookies
14:05 Agent_Dani Thanks. I just might walk over to Carolina Brewery and get a beer. ;)
14:06 kf or that :)
14:06 Agent_Dani hee!
14:06 * Agent_Dani books a meeting in "conference room C."
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15:16 jcamins_away Agent_Dani: are you in NY?
15:16 Agent_Dani jcamins_away: No, NC.
15:16 jcamins_away Huh. Apparently NC and NY do "in-state" the same way.
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15:17 jcamins_away I will probably be "in-state" next year. If I'm lucky.
15:17 jcamins_away Not that I'm going anywhere with in-state tuition, but it's the idea of the thing.
15:17 Agent_Dani My cynical side says this is to give excuses to classify more students as out of state.
15:17 Agent_Dani Ah.
15:18 jcamins_away Agent_Dani: it totally is.
15:18 * Agent_Dani has filed NY tax returns but she has never lived in that state.
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15:27 slef oleonard-away: DSL or what?
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15:29 slef @later tell oleonard if DSL and the router didn't disconnect while they were messing it up, manually telling the router to force a retrain may help, but it'll take a while and depends on exchange kit sanity IIRC
15:29 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
15:40 libsysguy hey after a patron is restricted and pays their fine
15:40 libsysguy do they get automatically unrestricted
15:40 wizzyrea no
15:40 libsysguy 0_0
15:40 libsysguy whats the reason behind that?
15:41 wizzyrea nobody's developed it yet
15:41 wizzyrea afk
15:41 libsysguy ok well ill add that to my list of things to develop
15:42 jcamins_away libsysguy: also, there was some controversy over how the automatic undebarring should work.
15:43 jcamins_away There's a bug in bugzilla with a discussion about it.
15:43 kf ie--
15:43 libsysguy is it bug 2720?
15:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fines that debar automatically, should undebar automatically when paid.
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15:43 kf I think so
15:44 kf not sure if the fines in days feature allows automatic undebarment
15:45 kf but it's a different thing
15:45 kf only thinking loud... back to ie
15:45 libsysguy ಠ_ಠ IE
15:49 jcamins_away ie-- # in solidarity with kf.
15:50 kf i even changed the template
15:50 kf can't believe I did that
15:50 kf and it's still not working
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16:01 kmkale Namaskar #koha
16:02 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
16:03 kmkale hi jcamins
16:03 jcamins Hi there, kmkale.
16:03 jcamins How go conference preparations?
16:04 libsysguy does liblime call their version of Koha "Koha Academic"?
16:04 kmkale looking better now that we have a few papers
16:04 slef libsysguy: one of them.
16:04 wahanui it has been said that one of them is bound to have a good idea ;)
16:05 slef Brooke++ for reviewing paper proposals
16:05 kmkale yep. Brooke++
16:06 slef bbl
16:06 kf Brooke++
16:07 libsysguy anybody know the bug number for the circ rewrite off the top of their head
16:07 jcamins The number bug 5692 comes to mind, but I don't think that's it.
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5692 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Adds an alternative cataloguing plugin for 210$c
16:08 jcamins I was right. :)
16:08 jcamins (that it wasn't it)
16:09 libsysguy yeah i was like nooo i think that was wrong lol
16:11 libsysguy it was 5872
16:11 libsysguy bug 5872
16:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details)
16:12 kf time to go - bye all :)
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16:13 libsysguy wizzyrea: do you know if patrons get blocked for overdues in the same way they get blocked for excessive fines
16:20 libsysguy if I wanted to checkout the bug 5872 branch...would it just be git checkout -b localname origin/new/needs_signoff/bug_5872
16:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details)
16:32 jcamins libsysguy: yes.
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16:47 libsysguy jcamins do you know what there are 3 debared fields in overdue rules?
16:47 jcamins I do not, sorry.
16:48 cait you can debar with sending one of the letters
16:48 cait the same time
16:48 cait so with the first or with the second or...
16:48 cait you are only supposed to check one of course :)
16:48 jcamins Oh, I didn't understand the question, sorry.
16:48 jcamins What cait said.
16:49 libsysguy so since you can send 3 letters you can choose to debar those 3 times?
16:49 libsysguy or one of those 3 times
16:49 jcamins One of.
16:49 f18 hi! i i'd like to install koha, succeeded so far, but port 8080 is used by another software, therefore i'd like to change the koha-port from 8080 to 8081 (eg)... the only thing I've to do is change the /etc/apache2/ports.conf and the koha-httpd.conf, no?
16:49 jcamins f18: that is correct.
16:49 libsysguy ^^
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16:53 f18 but it seems like there is no content in the referenced /, because i get a 404...
16:59 cait which files did you change?
16:59 cait I think you need to change the virtualhost entry
16:59 cait and the port your apache listens to?
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17:03 f18 the ports.conf and the koha-httpd.conf,
17:03 f18 I'll try the virtualhost entry
17:04 cait that should be the second file actually I think
17:04 cait apache and me are not really friends
17:04 f18 hehe :)
17:07 f18 hm.. no, the only thing apache tells me while restarting is: [Thu Aug 18 11:05:41 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8081 has no VirtualHosts
17:07 jcamins f18: that means that you need to adjust the VirtualHost directive.
17:07 f18 but that's not really true, because in the hoa-httpd.conf there is a <VirtualHost>
17:07 jcamins f18: there's your problem.
17:07 jcamins It needs to be *:8081
17:08 jcamins Not
17:08 f18 ok, i understand.. w8
17:08 f18 thank you! :-)
17:10 reiveune bye
17:10 jcamins You're welcome.
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17:18 wizzyrea libsysguy_lunch: i would have to go backthrough my notes
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18:12 bg @wunder 93109
18:12 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.5�C (11:11 AM PDT on August 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
18:12 bg great day outside
18:12 oleonard @wunder 45701
18:12 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 30.0�C (1:55 PM EDT on August 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
18:15 oleonard jQuery-UI native widget replacement for the greybox modal dialog system:
18:20 Agent_Dani That it is; causing me to rather I was on the other side of the window over my desk.
18:21 Agent_Dani @wunder 27599
18:21 huginn Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Falls of New Hope, Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 30.6�C (2:20 PM EDT on August 18, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
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18:32 luisb hi everyone, I find that I'm going to need multiple instances of koha to facilitate the needs of our research center. I've taken a look at[…]Instances_of_Koha and it seems that each instance, essentially, needs it's own installation.
18:32 luisb is there a way I can have just one codebase and have each instance look there instead?
18:34 magnuse luisb: the easiest way by far is to use the packages for debian - if you can install on debian
18:34 cait :)
18:34 cait what magnuse said
18:34 cait koha-common++
18:35 magnuse luisb:[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
18:35 luisb hmm. my test machine is ubuntu, but prodcution will be rhel-flavored (CentOS)
18:37 luisb thanks for the tip though. perhaps i can scrouge up a server and throw debian on it when the time comes.
18:38 magnuse hm, then i think dev installs will be the best bet
18:38 magnuse it's not that hard
18:38 magnuse then you can have several installs running off the same code
18:39 luisb we're going to be using koha in what's probably a pretty unique way/ser/ser
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18:39 magnuse oops
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18:40 luisb silly disconnects
18:41 libsysguy_lunch is there a way to customize the 404 and 500 page?
18:41 luisb magnuse: that does sound good actually. that's how i've installed it on my ubuntu box now
18:42 oleonard libsysguy_lunch: What were you hoping to do?
18:42 libsysguy_lunch fail whales
18:42 libsysguy_lunch jk
18:42 libsysguy_lunch just something to offer users somewhere else to go
18:42 libsysguy_lunch rather than just the back button
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18:47 oleonard libsysguy:
18:47 oleonard $("h4:contains('Error 404')").after("<p><a href=\"\">Here's a video of ninja cat</p></a>");
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18:49 wizzyrea ninja cats.
18:49 wizzyrea I like it.
18:49 libsysguy ^^
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19:33 rhcl_away timehack
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19:35 rangi Whens next gbsd?
19:36 rhcl[…]bug_squashing_day
19:36 rangi cool thanks
19:36 rhcl np
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19:40 rangi yay nice bus driver waited for poor girl running to the bus in torrential downpour
19:40 rangi friday is starting off ok
19:41 rangi natec?
19:41 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
19:41 wizzyrea oo
19:41 wizzyrea rangi?
19:41 rangi heh
19:41 wizzyrea i laugh every single time.
19:41 rangi NateC: stag party soon eh?
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19:41 rhcl oak!
19:41 rangi or bachelor party or whatever
19:41 Oak rhcl!
19:42 rangi you gonna party on your deck?
19:42 Oak :)
19:42 Oak cait
19:42 wizzyrea the "get wasted and forget you're getting married" party
19:42 Oak hello #koha
19:42 rhcl Party? Beverages and almonds?
19:42 Oak rangi, you don't sleep much do you
19:42 rhcl geocords?
19:43 Oak who is getting married?
19:43 rangi its 7.40am and ihave 2 kids under 5 so nope not so much heh
19:43 Oak heh :)
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19:45 * wizzyrea likes to party on the deck
19:47 oleonard The deck is the long part of the house's mullet.
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19:49 cait morning rangi, hi Oak and all
19:49 * cait waves
19:50 Oak :)
19:50 rangi heya cait
19:50 wizzyrea evenin cait
19:50 rhcl hihi
19:51 rangi danielg++
19:53 Oak must listen to this to this cover of Radiohead song:
19:55 cait danielg++ indeed :)
19:55 wizzyrea whoa what did I miss?
19:55 wizzyrea oh
19:55 wizzyrea I see now. My mail is just slowish.
19:55 rangi :)
19:56 rangi I should send him stuff about nz koha users meeting
19:56 cait yes :)
19:56 wizzyrea yea, that'd be good
19:59 rangi ok my stop bbs
20:06 rangi back
20:07 rangi Peak for #koha: 53 (Thu Aug 18 00:58:02 2011)
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20:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on August 18, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
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20:13 libsysguy so refworks is asking for z39.50 access to our catalog
20:13 libsysguy has anybody set this up before
20:14 rangi yes
20:15 rangi you'll most likely need help from your IT dept, to get a whole in the firewall
20:16 libsysguy oh great...they were requesting access for like 255 IP's
20:16 libsysguy do you know what port it is on?
20:16 rangi lol, im sure IT will love that ;)
20:16 libsysguy well...they will most likely deny it
20:16 rangi the other part you have to do, is edit your koha-conf.xml
20:16 wizzyrea lots of stuff in the list archives
20:16 wizzyrea on that
20:16 wizzyrea libsysguy
20:16 wahanui libsysguy is curious why it is looking for the biblios table
20:16 rangi to set the z3950 server to listen on an ip/port
20:17 libsysguy ok cool
20:17 cait good night #koha
20:17 oleonard Bye cait
20:17 cait bye owen :)
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20:18 rangi libsysguy:[…]coming-maschineii  <-- this will help
20:20 libsysguy pandora one subscription expired yesterday so I've been on the search for good music
20:20 wizzyrea oh
20:20 wizzyrea libsysguy
20:20 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
20:20 wizzyrea i have invites for google music
20:20 wizzyrea you want one?
20:20 libsysguy i have google music...i forgot aobut that
20:21 libsysguy but thanks wizzyrea for reminding me :)
20:21 wizzyrea yw
20:21 rangi and one for refworks
20:22 rangi[…]rs-so-fuck-you-ep
20:22 libsysguy excellent...i like it already
20:23 libsysguy so do I change the host in koha-conf or just find the port number and give it to refworks?
20:24 aarkerio hi!
20:25 rangi libsysguy: you need to make some changes
20:25 rangi lemme find a good writeup
20:25 libsysguy ok thanks rangi
20:25 aarkerio so when I add a MARC21 the data is saved in "biblio" table?
20:25 libsysguy sorry for being such a newb
20:25 rangi naw its fiine
20:25 wizzyrea we love nubs
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20:27 rangi aarkerio: biblio, biblioitems and items
20:28 aarkerio mmm, so I can save a book without MARC21 info about it?
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20:29 rangi it will make MARC info about it when you save
20:29 rangi[…]269#publicztarget
20:29 rangi libsysguy
20:29 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
20:30 rangi that was for you
20:30 libsysguy did you know I was dating a Swede?
20:31 wizzyrea well wahanui knows anyway lol
20:31 rangi heh i meant the link :)
20:31 rangi but yes wahanui is a stalker
20:31 libsysguy oops...i think wahanui is stalking me
20:31 rangi check this out
20:31 rangi[…]10150404069288362
20:31 rangi if you can see it
20:32 wizzyrea wowie!
20:32 aarkerio I am new in Koha, some guy (recently died) captured 2,200 books in... excel!!
20:32 wizzyrea arg!
20:32 libsysguy wow
20:32 libsysguy that is...interesting...
20:32 libsysguy and holy cow aarkerio
20:32 libsysguy csv ftw
20:33 rangi aarkerio: we have some scripts to convert csv to MARC21
20:33 aarkerio but the worksheet have only,     ID, Title, Author and clasification
20:33 aarkerio he made all with excel, lent and checkout and so
20:33 wizzyrea that has to be the most enthusiastic koha launch ever.
20:33 wizzyrea no boring press releases in belize, oh no
20:34 rangi heh for sure
20:34 rangi aarkerio: right, not ever isbn?
20:34 aarkerio rangi: thanks, can you share some link about CSV->Koha
20:34 rangi yep
20:35 aarkerio no, I think he never know about ISBN
20:35 rangi :(
20:35 aarkerio I don't know if is easier capture books again with Koha
20:36 rangi if you only have title and author
20:36 rangi making marc is most likely not worth it, you might be better off to use the Z3950 search in Koha to recatalogue them
20:37 aarkerio yea, maybe is better someone capture 30 or 40 books by day and in few months we get all the 2,200 books
20:39 rangi *nod*
20:39 rangi what i would do
20:39 rangi is by a cheap barcode scanner
20:39 rangi so you can scan the isbn number on the book
20:39 rangi then you can fetch the marc record from library of congress (or somewhere else)
20:41 aarkerio mmm, yea
20:41 aarkerio by the way, since what year books have ISBN?
20:41 wizzyrea 1966
20:42 wizzyrea was when it was developed
20:42 wizzyrea approved as a standard in 1970
20:44 aarkerio ok, thanks guys!
20:46 wizzyrea hehe
20:46 wizzyrea
20:46 rangi hehe
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21:09 pm rangi: alright, here I am =)
21:09 rangi heya pm
21:09 pm is now known as Guest6325
21:10 rangi you're in quebec?
21:10 Guest6325 well of course pm is registered
21:10 Guest6325 yes
21:10 bg ahhh NateC?
21:11 bg NateC?
21:11 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
21:11 rangi cool, one of my good friends is from there, sits downstairs .. fmarier on
21:12 bg man I missed all the talk about decks
21:12 rangi so you work at Libéo?
21:13 Guest6325 yeah, with Frédérick Capovilla
21:13 rangi if you are quick you can be contributor number 150 ;)
21:13 Guest6325 I do have quite a few patches i'm looking at contributing =)
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21:14 rangi excellent
21:21 rangi you get bonus points for passing the perlcritic tests too
21:22 wizzyrea who's got the chorewars link lol
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21:23 rangi[…]?id=1374895405058
21:24 bencahill hey guys, is there an easy way to enter, say, title,author,isbn for books that aren't in the loc?
21:24 rangi um yeah, just enter those fields in the editor? (plus the mandatory ones)
21:26 bencahill rangi: this librarian doesn't know what the mandatory fields would be...and isn't that interested (e.g. 000, 001, 003, and 005)
21:26 rangi it will tell you
21:26 rangi if you try and submit it without filling those in
21:26 rangi and it will even fill them in for you
21:26 bencahill ok lemme try one, sec
21:26 rangi 040 and 942c as well
21:26 rangi anything with a little red * by it
21:27 bencahill right...
21:27 bencahill thus the "e.g." ;-P
21:28 bencahill okay, what's the author field?
21:28 bencahill I assume title is 245a?
21:28 bencahill is 100 author?
21:28 wizzyrea 100a is the author
21:28 rangi does it have a red * by it?
21:29 bencahill rangi: 100a doesn't, no
21:29 rangi then its not mandatory
21:29 bencahill rangi: 245a does
21:29 rangi yep
21:29 bencahill but if I have author, might as well enter it?
21:30 rangi you should enter as much as possible
21:30 bencahill right
21:30 rangi the more you have, the more discoverable the record is
21:30 bencahill ok, does it matter if 020a has hyphens/dashes or not?
21:30 wizzyrea supposedly the zebra search compensates
21:30 wizzyrea but I think that might currently be broken
21:31 rangi do it without
21:31 bencahill rangi: ok
21:31 bencahill wizzyrea: wrong question, I should've asked, "which is preferable?" ;)
21:31 wizzyrea ah
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21:32 bencahill how does the author field (100a) work? it brings up a popup
21:33 rangi its under authority control then
21:33 rangi i feel a link to the manual coming on
21:33 bencahill I do as well
21:34 rangi but you probably want to edit the framework, and turn that off, since im guessing you dont have authorities set up
21:34 bencahill no, I don't
21:34 bencahill (don't have authorities set up, that is)
21:35 rangi pelletiermaxime:
21:35 rangi bencahill:[…]on/3-4-manual-en/
21:35 bencahill rangi: looking at 1.1.3...
21:36 rangi[…]marcbibframeworks
21:36 rangi specifically
21:38 pelletiermaxime rangi: ?
21:40 wizzyrea I think he's suggesting that you should consult the perldoc before submitting patches
21:40 wizzyrea :)
21:41 rangi pelletiermaxime: perldoc for all the koha scripts and modules, so bonus points for fixing/adding to it
21:41 rangi its generated from the pod in the files themselves
21:41 pelletiermaxime rangi: oh if only I had the time. Maybe I will in a few months.
21:42 pelletiermaxime rangi: but I found the pod doc to be quite good
21:42 rangi well any patches you submit, should of course update the POD ;)
21:42 pelletiermaxime rangi: well of course. I wouldn't expect a patch that doesn't update the pod to be accepted
21:43 rangi depends if its someones first patch or not, we usually help people with their first ones
21:44 pelletiermaxime anyway, just finished another big day hacking on koha. I will probably come back here from time to time =)
21:44 rangi cool
21:45 pelletiermaxime especially since I will probably work on koha for the next 8 months
21:45 rangi you should definitely come to the irc meetings
21:45 wizzyrea come hang out anytime
21:45 pelletiermaxime hoping I can contribute more someday, hehe
21:45 wizzyrea I found it works best when you just make that part of what you do
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21:57 bencahill rangi: what should I be looking for? I'm editing the tag 100 subfield a, and it doesn't have an Authorized value...
21:58 rangi not authorised values, authorities, is thesaurus set, its probably set to PERSON_NAME or something like that currently
21:59 bencahill rangi: ah yes, it's set to PERSO_NAME
21:59 bencahill Thesaurus: means that the value is not free text, but must be searched in the authority/thesaurus of the selected category
21:59 rangi thats the one, set that to nothing will switch it off
21:59 bencahill I see :)
21:59 wizzyrea later peps
22:00 rangi cya wizzyrea
22:05 bencahill rangi: what differences are there between the frameworks? (i.e. why do I want to select Books, Booklets, Workbooks for a book?)
22:06 rangi because types of materials should have different things catalogued about them, you can just use default for all if you want
22:06 bencahill ok, thanks
22:08 bencahill rangi: ofc, I can't change subfields for the default framework, so I should use the bks one if I want to change stuff (e.g. the authorities for 100b)?
22:10 rangi you cant change subfields?
22:10 rangi why?
22:13 bencahill rangi: oh wait...nvm
22:14 bencahill some pebkac here
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22:20 Judit morning
22:23 rangi hi Judit
22:31 Judit feels like monday morning here
22:31 Judit rainy monday morning
22:35 talljoy is now known as talljoy_away
22:35 eythian Same here, 'cept it feels like it should be Saturday, only I'm at work :)
22:38 * chris_n looks in for a moment
22:38 rangi heya chris_n
22:38 chris_n hey rangi
22:38 chris_n staying warm?
22:39 rangi yeah its warmed up quite a bit
22:39 eythian It's now 8
22:39 chris_n wow... scorcher eh?
22:40 * chris_n actually had time to fix a bug the other day :)
22:40 rangi heh cool ;)
22:41 chris_n its been a very busy few months spent mostly away from the desk
22:42 chris_n but we were able to trim about $2K/month from our largest building's power bill
22:43 rangi wow, thats a good saving
22:44 chris_n yeah, we're hoping to do it again for the other four large buildings (together that is)
22:45 chris_n ok, off to eat supper
22:46 mtj[…]is-patentable.ars
23:06 chilts wow, that's just ridiculous
23:06 chilts and I haven't even read the article (maybe I should!) :/
23:07 * chilts reads now
23:07 rangi hehe
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23:30 rhcl[…]e-pc-business.ars
23:32 rangi sucks to be the guy who just did the speech at linuxcon from hp, saying how committed they are to webos
23:33 rhcl never believe 'em. They Lie.
23:38 rhcl I will miss HP computers, however. I've always felt they offered pretty good quality at prices < IBM/Lenovo
23:38 rangi yeah they werent bad
23:40 rhcl at least they are fairly mainstream--I've never had to replace a DVD drive with some wierd/proprietary connector like I've found w/ Dell.
23:41 nengard joined #koha
23:41 rangi hi nengard
23:41 rangi in LA?
23:42 nengard hiya rangi
23:42 nengard at the airport
23:42 nengard in the sky club with free wifi, confy chairs, free food and drinks :(
23:42 nengard wait
23:42 nengard I meant :)
23:42 nengard hehe
23:42 rangi :)
23:42 nengard finished with kristina a bit ago
23:42 nengard but dont' fly for another 5 hours
23:45 mtj heya nengard
23:45 wahanui nengard is, like, fast
23:45 nengard hehe
23:45 nengard hi mtj
23:46 mtj have some airport nibbles on me xox :)
23:47 rangi good chat with kristina?
23:50 Agent_Dani There, with proper pneumatic pressure in the fork and shocks, riding my Voyager ought to be much nicer. :)
23:51 nengard rangi yes,
23:51 nengard we decided moodle wasn't right for what i wanted
23:51 rangi cool, she rules
23:51 nengard but i learned how to use it and now i feel much better about it :)
23:51 nengard she does
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23:56 rangi heres a new one
23:56 rangi
23:56 rangi go go kenya!
23:57 rhcl site looks pretty good
23:58 rhcl is now known as rhcl_away

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