IRC log for #koha, 2011-07-18

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06:37 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5663] Show control number without organization code in staff URLs <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5663>
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06:39 marcelr morning all
06:43 cait hi marcelr
06:44 cait i failed the staff part - but only becaues I think it was the wrong patch file
06:44 cait could you check?
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06:46 marcelr hi cait; i attached the right file now; thanks
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06:54 julian hello!
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07:13 kf marcelr: don't worry - it's just a normal monday
07:13 marcelr ;)
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07:17 paul_p hello #koha. I'm back
07:17 marcelr hi paul
07:17 paul_p 2265 mails to download :(
07:17 marcelr :-)
07:18 paul_p fortunatly, 95% are useless (spam) or just FYI ... but even 5% means i'll dedicate my day to working with thunderbird...
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07:31 kf hi paul_p :)
07:31 kf how was your vacation?
07:32 paul_p hi kf. Very good, thanks. How is your new laptop ?
07:39 kf it's fantastic
07:39 kf :)
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08:00 clrh hi!
08:00 kf_mtg hi claire :)
08:00 kf_mtg meeting time
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10:11 magnuse o/
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10:16 druthb hi, magnus!  :)
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10:46 Agent_Dani Good morning!
10:57 magnuse hiya druthb & #koha
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11:58 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6598] OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6598>
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12:09 nengard morning #koha
12:09 oleonard Hi nengard, #koha
12:17 oleonard kf++ # for lots of weekend bug-wrangling!
12:17 nengard agreed!
12:17 nengard kf++
12:17 oleonard magnus_away++ # too
12:18 kf magnuse++
12:18 kf and thx :)
12:19 kf oleonard: can you take a look at my solution for the translatability issue on
12:19 kf not sure it's the best way to do it, but it seemed to work alright
12:19 oleonard Sure
12:19 kf thx :)
12:19 oleonard Bug 4497?
12:19 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4497 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Acq > Manage suggestions contains untranslated strings
12:20 kf yes
12:20 kf new_laptop++
12:20 kf much more fun to test things when your screen is big enough and everything is reasonably fast
12:21 nengard :)
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12:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha
12:25 kf hi kmkale
12:25 kmkale hi kf :)
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12:41 oleonard kf: I don't think that's necessarily the best long-term solution to the problem, but it's a perfectly workable one
12:42 oleonard We'd have to make a fairly big change to the way suggestions worked otherwise
12:42 kf ok :)
12:42 kf relieved it's not totally stupid
12:43 oleonard who knows, maybe this *is* a good way to do it, looking at the confusion over the 'found' field in the reserves table
12:43 oleonard At least the status stored in the database is human-readable, even if only in English
12:44 kf I am not sure what else you can do
12:44 kf we will need something similar for accoutns
12:45 kf storing Payment thanks, - in the database is not good
12:45 kf it's not even a good idea if you want to have a multilingual system
12:47 kf ah, reading your comment... I think I get it now what you mean
12:47 kf I think having readable codes is not so bad, as long as it gets not too long and complicated
12:48 kf and in accoutns it's not good now because data and display text are mixed together in one string, so you can't really separate them
12:50 oleonard Agreed.
12:50 kf ok ;)
12:53 kf oleonard++ :)
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13:13 kf morning talljoy
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13:20 talljoy morning kf
13:21 talljoy well...technically...good afternoon for you. :-)
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13:23 kf thx :)
13:23 kf hi sekjal
13:24 sekjal hi, kf
13:24 sekjal kf++ (for bug work over the weekend)
13:25 kf all things I wanted to like forever
13:27 magnuse getting_things_done++ ;-)
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13:37 tcohen hi all
13:37 kf hehe
13:37 kf hi tcohen
13:38 tcohen kf: been in 'Valle de la Luna' this winter hollidays
13:38 tcohen not ready for being back to work yet
13:43 kf it's monday... take it slow
13:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6596] Acq framework has white space for hidden fields <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6596>
13:48 kf oleonard++ :)
13:48 oleonard A simple change. I hope that was all that was needed.
13:49 kf I will check
13:49 kf :)
13:49 kf but looks good to me
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14:15 slef hi all
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14:16 oleonard Hi slef
14:17 kf hi slef
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14:32 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5877] Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877>
14:32 Brooke @later tell druthb check your email
14:32 huginn` Brooke: The operation succeeded.
14:35 oleonard Brooke: Send her an email to remind her to log on to IRC to get her msg
14:35 Brooke just phoned her owen, but thanks
14:35 * Brooke is pissed.
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14:39 kf ?
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15:04 slef bit early to be drinking!
15:04 slef ;-)
15:04 kf hm?
15:04 wizzyrea good morning friends
15:04 kf hi liz
15:05 slef kf: "Brooke is pissed" - UKUS slang difference
15:05 * wizzyrea got it
15:05 wizzyrea :)
15:06 kf oh
15:06 kf I interpreted as 'annoyed'
15:06 reiveune bye
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15:07 wizzyrea that would be the US interpretation
15:07 wizzyrea :)
15:07 wizzyrea "drunk" is the UK interpretation
15:08 kf ok :)
15:08 wizzyrea and good morning
15:08 jcamins_away thd-away: did you just call?
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15:39 slef not just drunk... very very drunk :)
15:47 bg NateC?
15:47 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
15:47 NateC HA!
15:47 NateC I got my "I Like Space" Shirt in the mail on Sat!!
15:48 NateC Nasa font and all baby!
15:52 wizzyrea lol @ NateC
15:52 wizzyrea guess when you make your millions you'll be on one of those VirginGalactic flights eh?
15:53 NateC HA
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16:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6599] Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6599>
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17:20 cait hi all
17:21 jwagner hi cait
17:22 cait hi jwagner
17:22 cait sekjal: around?
17:22 hdl see you folks
17:22 cait bye hdl
17:22 sekjal cait:  yes, I'm here
17:23 cait wondered if you could take a look at 6589
17:24 cait nicole signed off on it
17:24 sekjal sure, just a moment (got to finish this rather lengthy email)
17:25 cait sure - thx a lot
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17:43 tcohen hya, is there a way to prompt (during update) for including new sample/optional data?
17:43 cait after initial installation?
17:44 tcohen nengard asked for that in bug 6299
17:44 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:44 tcohen cait: yes
17:44 cait not that I know of, sorry
17:45 cait I think you would have to be very careful about it too
17:45 wizzyrea *nod*
17:45 cait tcohen: I think it would be safe to create a new authorized value with a database update
17:46 cait but I think there is no optional way to do it at the moment
17:47 tcohen i posted a comment on the bug, saying that a new koha featureshould be developed for that
17:47 tcohen and as of bug 6299 it should be tested on new installs for sign-off
17:48 tcohen guess that's all I can do for that bug
17:49 tcohen thanks cait
18:02 sekjal cait:  6589 is passed QA
18:04 cait sekjal: thx a lot :)
18:04 cait sekjal++
18:05 * cait cait_afk
18:05 sekjal thank YOU.  anything that helps fix Serials (or Acquisitions) bugs is worth double for me right now
18:05 sekjal cait++ (kf++ , too, for good measure)
18:06 cait sekjal: unhappy customer?
18:06 cait I have one quite unhappy librarian too, but will get better once we are on 3.4.x
18:06 sekjal we've got a couple partners who are starting to get into Acquisitions and Serials more, and it's forcing me to look much more closely at those areas
18:07 cait but needs more testing before we can update - translation especially
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18:07 cait and they have rfid - there are some interesting patches for that
18:07 cait especially one from Colin for my holds problem
18:07 sekjal I'm not liking all that I'm seeing in those modules... but, thankfully, there are patches out there, and new ones coming in, so we can make progess
18:07 cait exactly
18:08 cait I think the workflows could be better at some places
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18:38 druthb o/
18:39 magnuse o/
18:39 druthb hello from Philadelphia!
18:39 sekjal hey, druthb!
18:39 magnuse hello from Bod�!
18:39 oleonard nengard: Have you tried recently to add a dictionary definition in reports?
18:40 nengard no, i only tested teh display issues - do you need me to?
18:40 Agent_Dani Hi druthb in Philadelphia!
18:40 druthb hi, sekjal and Dani
18:40 * Agent_Dani is still in Chapel Hill.
18:40 oleonard nengard: It seems broken to me
18:41 oleonard nengard: ...but I very rarely use it so i'm having trouble understanding how it's broken
18:41 nengard okay
18:41 nengard will test
18:41 oleonard I think something is going wrong between step 3 and step 4
18:43 nengard oleonard i have no problem with the creation of the definition
18:43 nengard but when i tried to use it in a report it didn't work
18:43 nengard will record my steps
18:44 oleonard nengard: Is it possible to use multiple columns in a definition?
18:44 bg @wunder 93109
18:44 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (11:43 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
18:44 bg ouch that's hot
18:44 bg @wunder santa ynez, ca
18:44 huginn` bg: The current temperature in Solvang, California is 26.9�C (11:44 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
18:45 druthb @wunder 20852   #not relevant, really...but I *was* there earlier...
18:45 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 31.4�C (2:44 PM EDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
18:45 nengard oleonard i've never gotten it to allow multiple columns
18:45 nengard not since i've been doing it
18:45 nengard so not since before 3.9
18:45 nengard 3.0
18:45 magnuse Solvang sounds very norwegian...
18:46 nengard oleonard:[…]8afd-6c2ca2cbafd4
18:47 oleonard nengard: When I choose a text column, am I not supposed to be able to set that to something?
18:47 oleonard borrowers.Surname, for instance
18:47 nengard hmmm
18:48 nengard not something i've tried before
18:48 nengard i only did fields with pull downs
18:48 nengard honestly do you know anyone who uses the dictionary at all?
18:49 oleonard "Always been broke, don't fix it?" :)
18:49 nengard well fix it if people use it :)
18:49 nengard that's more what i'm saying
18:50 nengard but yes, apparently it has always been broke
18:51 oleonard well, good to know anyway
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19:01 raosoma hello
19:02 raosoma can any one help me in configuring mail on koha server?
19:02 raosoma hello
19:02 raosoma knock
19:02 raosoma knock
19:03 oleonard raosoma: Configuring mail is a question about server administration, not Koha specifically.
19:03 oleonard You might have better luck in a forum devoted to your distro
19:03 raosoma thanks for responding. I am looking to configure sendmail in koha.
19:04 raosoma it is about configuring
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19:05 raosoma hello
19:05 raosoma hello
19:05 wahanui bonjour, raosoma
19:05 raosoma hi
19:05 raosoma require help in configuring sendmail in koha.
19:05 raosoma can you please help me.
19:06 oleonard raosoma: I've already offered you one answer.
19:06 raosoma oleonard: i didn't understand.
19:07 oleonard raosoma: What is your server platform?
19:07 raosoma debian
19:07 oleonard I suggest you search for resources devoted to debian since there's no one here to answer your question today
19:08 raosoma couldn't find any where. ok thanks.
19:09 raosoma btw, who moderates mails in koha lists
19:09 oleonard raosoma: Are you having a problem with your messages?
19:09 raosoma i have posted one question on lists.koha
19:09 raosoma yes
19:10 raosoma it is not yet posted.
19:10 raosoma i doubt whether all are able to see my msg
19:10 raosoma i got a mail saying that it is waiting for moderation
19:11 oleonard Are you subscribed?
19:11 oleonard Did you post from the email address which is subscribed?
19:12 raosoma yes and yes.
19:12 raosoma i don't see it in archives also.
19:13 oleonard Where?
19:13 raosoma[…]11-July/date.html
19:14 raosoma and i got a mail saying....
19:14 raosoma Your mail to 'Koha' with the subject
19:17 raosoma hello
19:17 wahanui bonjour, raosoma
19:17 raosoma hi wahanui
19:21 raosoma hellllllllllllooooooooooooo
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19:23 slef er, drat
19:24 slef but er, configuring sendmail?
19:25 slef anyway, sounds like rach or rangi will need to let raosoma's mail out of mod hold
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19:44 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6602] Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6602>
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20:31 libsysguy1 jcamins_away are you actually away?
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20:34 libsysguy1 maybe somebody else knows.  Im trying to use git cherry-pick and can't quite figure it out
20:34 nengard libsysguy1
20:34 nengard you just need the commit number
20:34 nengard and then git cherry-pick commitnumberhere
20:35 libsysguy1 oh so if there are hundreds of them...lots of typing for libsysguy1
20:35 nengard yup ....
20:35 nengard :(
20:35 libsysguy1 :'(
20:35 nengard why are you cherry picking versus doing a pull?
20:35 libsysguy1 its from a remote branch
20:35 nengard k
20:36 libsysguy1 for bug 5549
20:36 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
20:36 nengard is there a branch - you might be able to cherry pick a branch - but i don't know how
20:36 nengard rangi would know
20:36 nengard sekjal might know too
20:36 sekjal libsysguy:  git checkout -b bug5549 <remote_name>/<remote_branch_name>
20:36 libsysguy1 interesting
20:36 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes bad
20:37 sekjal will create a new branch on your system that tracks that remove branch
20:37 nengard sekjal++
20:37 libsysguy1 sekjal++
20:37 sekjal s/remove/remote/
20:37 libsysguy1 i see what you did there
20:41 libsysguy1 so since im a giant git newb I have a question...once i have a new branch and have switched to it...does that mean that code is now active?
20:42 nengard yes
20:42 nengard and then switch back to not have that code active
20:43 nengard but if db updates are involved in any way you need to undo those when you switch back
20:43 libsysguy1 what about database changes?
20:43 libsysguy1 ahh
20:43 nengard :)
20:43 libsysguy1 so what about making those changes?
20:43 nengard usually i copy the stuff out of update database and apply them directly in mysql - and then undo them there too
20:43 nengard don't know if that's the best way or not
20:44 libsysguy1 heh
20:44 sekjal libsysguy1:  you can also create a second database for testing the new branch
20:44 libsysguy1 oh thats true
20:44 sekjal then update your koha-conf.xml to point at that DB
20:44 libsysguy1 i didn't think about that
20:44 sekjal you'll need to reindex, of course
20:44 libsysguy1 sadly :'(
20:44 sekjal and don't do it on a production codebase
20:44 sekjal but, for testing, it's one way of having multiple DB realities
20:45 libsysguy1 ok cool, thanks sekjalo
20:45 libsysguy1 sekjal**
20:48 sekjal no prob.  glad to be of help
20:48 jcamins_away libsysguy1: I am, but I'll be here for a few minutes.
20:49 jcamins_away libsysguy1: never mind, sekjal explained it.
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21:16 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
21:17 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.1�C (4:16 PM CDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday...
21:17 wizzyrea good lord.
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23:49 druthb 0.o  two of me?
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