Time Nick Message 01:30 druthb o/ 01:30 jcamins \o 06:37 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5663] Show control number without organization code in staff URLs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5663> 06:39 marcelr morning all 06:43 cait hi marcelr 06:44 cait i failed the staff part - but only becaues I think it was the wrong patch file 06:44 cait could you check? 06:46 marcelr hi cait; i attached the right file now; thanks 06:54 julian hello! 06:56 lds hello 06:58 reiveune hello 07:13 kf marcelr: don't worry - it's just a normal monday 07:13 marcelr ;) 07:17 paul_p hello #koha. I'm back 07:17 marcelr hi paul 07:17 paul_p 2265 mails to download :( 07:17 marcelr :-) 07:18 paul_p fortunatly, 95% are useless (spam) or just FYI ... but even 5% means i'll dedicate my day to working with thunderbird... 07:22 francharb hello #koha 07:31 kf hi paul_p :) 07:31 kf how was your vacation? 07:32 paul_p hi kf. Very good, thanks. How is your new laptop ? 07:39 kf it's fantastic 07:39 kf :) 08:00 clrh hi! 08:00 kf_mtg hi claire :) 08:00 kf_mtg meeting time 10:11 magnuse o/ 10:16 druthb hi, magnus! :) 10:46 Agent_Dani Good morning! 10:57 magnuse hiya druthb & #koha 11:58 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6598] OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6598> 12:09 nengard morning #koha 12:09 oleonard Hi nengard, #koha 12:17 oleonard kf++ # for lots of weekend bug-wrangling! 12:17 nengard agreed! 12:17 nengard kf++ 12:17 oleonard magnus_away++ # too 12:18 kf magnuse++ 12:18 kf and thx :) 12:19 kf oleonard: can you take a look at my solution for the translatability issue on suggestion.tt? 12:19 kf not sure it's the best way to do it, but it seemed to work alright 12:19 oleonard Sure 12:19 kf thx :) 12:19 oleonard Bug 4497? 12:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4497 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Acq > Manage suggestions contains untranslated strings 12:20 kf yes 12:20 kf new_laptop++ 12:20 kf much more fun to test things when your screen is big enough and everything is reasonably fast 12:21 nengard :) 12:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha 12:25 kf hi kmkale 12:25 kmkale hi kf :) 12:41 oleonard kf: I don't think that's necessarily the best long-term solution to the problem, but it's a perfectly workable one 12:42 oleonard We'd have to make a fairly big change to the way suggestions worked otherwise 12:42 kf ok :) 12:42 kf relieved it's not totally stupid 12:43 oleonard who knows, maybe this *is* a good way to do it, looking at the confusion over the 'found' field in the reserves table 12:43 oleonard At least the status stored in the database is human-readable, even if only in English 12:44 kf I am not sure what else you can do 12:44 kf we will need something similar for accoutns 12:45 kf storing Payment thanks, - in the database is not good 12:45 kf it's not even a good idea if you want to have a multilingual system 12:47 kf ah, reading your comment... I think I get it now what you mean 12:47 kf I think having readable codes is not so bad, as long as it gets not too long and complicated 12:48 kf and in accoutns it's not good now because data and display text are mixed together in one string, so you can't really separate them 12:50 oleonard Agreed. 12:50 kf ok ;) 12:53 kf oleonard++ :) 13:13 kf morning talljoy 13:20 talljoy morning kf 13:21 talljoy well...technically...good afternoon for you. :-) 13:23 kf thx :) 13:23 kf hi sekjal 13:24 sekjal hi, kf 13:24 sekjal kf++ (for bug work over the weekend) 13:25 kf all things I wanted to like forever 13:27 magnuse getting_things_done++ ;-) 13:37 tcohen hi all 13:37 kf hehe 13:37 kf hi tcohen 13:38 tcohen kf: been in 'Valle de la Luna' this winter hollidays 13:38 tcohen not ready for being back to work yet 13:43 kf it's monday... take it slow 13:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6596] Acq framework has white space for hidden fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6596> 13:48 kf oleonard++ :) 13:48 oleonard A simple change. I hope that was all that was needed. 13:49 kf I will check 13:49 kf :) 13:49 kf but looks good to me 14:15 slef hi all 14:16 oleonard Hi slef 14:17 kf hi slef 14:32 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5877] Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877> 14:32 Brooke @later tell druthb check your email 14:32 huginn` Brooke: The operation succeeded. 14:35 oleonard Brooke: Send her an email to remind her to log on to IRC to get her msg 14:35 Brooke just phoned her owen, but thanks 14:35 * Brooke is pissed. 14:39 kf ? 15:04 slef bit early to be drinking! 15:04 slef ;-) 15:04 kf hm? 15:04 wizzyrea good morning friends 15:04 kf hi liz 15:05 slef kf: "Brooke is pissed" - UKUS slang difference 15:05 * wizzyrea got it 15:05 wizzyrea :) 15:06 kf oh 15:06 kf I interpreted as 'annoyed' 15:06 reiveune bye 15:07 wizzyrea that would be the US interpretation 15:07 wizzyrea :) 15:07 wizzyrea "drunk" is the UK interpretation 15:08 kf ok :) 15:08 wizzyrea and good morning 15:08 jcamins_away thd-away: did you just call? 15:39 slef not just drunk... very very drunk :) 15:47 bg NateC? 15:47 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 15:47 NateC HA! 15:47 NateC I got my "I Like Space" Shirt in the mail on Sat!! 15:48 NateC Nasa font and all baby! 15:52 wizzyrea lol @ NateC 15:52 wizzyrea guess when you make your millions you'll be on one of those VirginGalactic flights eh? 15:53 NateC HA 16:30 kf bye 16:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6599] Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6599> 17:20 cait hi all 17:21 jwagner hi cait 17:22 cait hi jwagner 17:22 cait sekjal: around? 17:22 hdl see you folks 17:22 cait bye hdl 17:22 sekjal cait: yes, I'm here 17:23 cait wondered if you could take a look at 6589 17:24 cait nicole signed off on it 17:24 sekjal sure, just a moment (got to finish this rather lengthy email) 17:25 cait sure - thx a lot 17:43 tcohen hya, is there a way to prompt (during update) for including new sample/optional data? 17:43 cait after initial installation? 17:44 tcohen nengard asked for that in bug 6299 17:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms 17:44 tcohen cait: yes 17:44 cait not that I know of, sorry 17:45 cait I think you would have to be very careful about it too 17:45 wizzyrea *nod* 17:45 cait tcohen: I think it would be safe to create a new authorized value with a database update 17:46 cait but I think there is no optional way to do it at the moment 17:47 tcohen i posted a comment on the bug, saying that a new koha featureshould be developed for that 17:47 tcohen and as of bug 6299 it should be tested on new installs for sign-off 17:48 tcohen guess that's all I can do for that bug 17:49 tcohen thanks cait 18:02 sekjal cait: 6589 is passed QA 18:04 cait sekjal: thx a lot :) 18:04 cait sekjal++ 18:05 * cait cait_afk 18:05 sekjal thank YOU. anything that helps fix Serials (or Acquisitions) bugs is worth double for me right now 18:05 sekjal cait++ (kf++ , too, for good measure) 18:06 cait sekjal: unhappy customer? 18:06 cait I have one quite unhappy librarian too, but will get better once we are on 3.4.x 18:06 sekjal we've got a couple partners who are starting to get into Acquisitions and Serials more, and it's forcing me to look much more closely at those areas 18:07 cait but needs more testing before we can update - translation especially 18:07 cait and they have rfid - there are some interesting patches for that 18:07 cait especially one from Colin for my holds problem 18:07 sekjal I'm not liking all that I'm seeing in those modules... but, thankfully, there are patches out there, and new ones coming in, so we can make progess 18:07 cait exactly 18:08 cait I think the workflows could be better at some places 18:38 druthb o/ 18:39 magnuse o/ 18:39 druthb hello from Philadelphia! 18:39 sekjal hey, druthb! 18:39 magnuse hello from Bod�! 18:39 oleonard nengard: Have you tried recently to add a dictionary definition in reports? 18:40 nengard no, i only tested teh display issues - do you need me to? 18:40 Agent_Dani Hi druthb in Philadelphia! 18:40 druthb hi, sekjal and Dani 18:40 * Agent_Dani is still in Chapel Hill. 18:40 oleonard nengard: It seems broken to me 18:41 oleonard nengard: ...but I very rarely use it so i'm having trouble understanding how it's broken 18:41 nengard okay 18:41 nengard will test 18:41 oleonard I think something is going wrong between step 3 and step 4 18:43 nengard oleonard i have no problem with the creation of the definition 18:43 nengard but when i tried to use it in a report it didn't work 18:43 nengard will record my steps 18:44 oleonard nengard: Is it possible to use multiple columns in a definition? 18:44 bg @wunder 93109 18:44 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (11:43 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising). 18:44 bg ouch that's hot 18:44 bg @wunder santa ynez, ca 18:44 huginn` bg: The current temperature in Solvang, California is 26.9�C (11:44 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 18:45 druthb @wunder 20852 #not relevant, really...but I *was* there earlier... 18:45 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 31.4�C (2:44 PM EDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 18:45 nengard oleonard i've never gotten it to allow multiple columns 18:45 nengard not since i've been doing it 18:45 nengard so not since before 3.9 18:45 nengard 3.0 18:45 magnuse Solvang sounds very norwegian... 18:46 nengard oleonard: http://www.screencast.com/users/NicoleEngard/folders/Jing/media/c81f4631-aadc-4e39-8afd-6c2ca2cbafd4 18:47 oleonard nengard: When I choose a text column, am I not supposed to be able to set that to something? 18:47 oleonard borrowers.Surname, for instance 18:47 nengard hmmm 18:48 nengard not something i've tried before 18:48 nengard i only did fields with pull downs 18:48 nengard honestly do you know anyone who uses the dictionary at all? 18:49 oleonard "Always been broke, don't fix it?" :) 18:49 nengard well fix it if people use it :) 18:49 nengard that's more what i'm saying 18:50 nengard but yes, apparently it has always been broke 18:51 oleonard well, good to know anyway 19:01 raosoma hello 19:02 raosoma can any one help me in configuring mail on koha server? 19:02 raosoma hello 19:02 raosoma knock 19:02 raosoma knock 19:03 oleonard raosoma: Configuring mail is a question about server administration, not Koha specifically. 19:03 oleonard You might have better luck in a forum devoted to your distro 19:03 raosoma thanks for responding. I am looking to configure sendmail in koha. 19:04 raosoma it is about configuring sendmail.pm 19:05 raosoma hello 19:05 raosoma hello 19:05 wahanui bonjour, raosoma 19:05 raosoma hi 19:05 raosoma require help in configuring sendmail in koha. 19:05 raosoma can you please help me. 19:06 oleonard raosoma: I've already offered you one answer. 19:06 raosoma oleonard: i didn't understand. 19:07 oleonard raosoma: What is your server platform? 19:07 raosoma debian 19:07 oleonard I suggest you search for resources devoted to debian since there's no one here to answer your question today 19:08 raosoma couldn't find any where. ok thanks. 19:09 raosoma btw, who moderates mails in koha lists 19:09 oleonard raosoma: Are you having a problem with your messages? 19:09 raosoma i have posted one question on lists.koha 19:09 raosoma yes 19:10 raosoma it is not yet posted. 19:10 raosoma i doubt whether all are able to see my msg 19:10 raosoma i got a mail saying that it is waiting for moderation 19:11 oleonard Are you subscribed? 19:11 oleonard Did you post from the email address which is subscribed? 19:12 raosoma yes and yes. 19:12 raosoma i don't see it in archives also. 19:13 oleonard Where? 19:13 raosoma http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2011-July/date.html 19:14 raosoma and i got a mail saying.... 19:14 raosoma Your mail to 'Koha' with the subject 19:17 raosoma hello 19:17 wahanui bonjour, raosoma 19:17 raosoma hi wahanui 19:21 raosoma hellllllllllllooooooooooooo 19:23 slef er, drat 19:24 slef but er, configuring sendmail? 19:25 slef anyway, sounds like rach or rangi will need to let raosoma's mail out of mod hold 19:44 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6602] Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6602> 20:31 libsysguy1 jcamins_away are you actually away? 20:34 libsysguy1 maybe somebody else knows. Im trying to use git cherry-pick and can't quite figure it out 20:34 nengard libsysguy1 20:34 nengard you just need the commit number 20:34 nengard and then git cherry-pick commitnumberhere 20:35 libsysguy1 oh so if there are hundreds of them...lots of typing for libsysguy1 20:35 nengard yup .... 20:35 nengard :( 20:35 libsysguy1 :'( 20:35 nengard why are you cherry picking versus doing a pull? 20:35 libsysguy1 its from a remote branch 20:35 nengard k 20:36 libsysguy1 for bug 5549 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 20:36 nengard is there a branch - you might be able to cherry pick a branch - but i don't know how 20:36 nengard rangi would know 20:36 nengard sekjal might know too 20:36 sekjal libsysguy: git checkout -b bug5549 <remote_name>/<remote_branch_name> 20:36 libsysguy1 interesting 20:36 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes bad 20:37 sekjal will create a new branch on your system that tracks that remove branch 20:37 nengard sekjal++ 20:37 libsysguy1 sekjal++ 20:37 sekjal s/remove/remote/ 20:37 libsysguy1 i see what you did there 20:41 libsysguy1 so since im a giant git newb I have a question...once i have a new branch and have switched to it...does that mean that code is now active? 20:42 nengard yes 20:42 nengard and then switch back to not have that code active 20:43 nengard but if db updates are involved in any way you need to undo those when you switch back 20:43 libsysguy1 what about database changes? 20:43 libsysguy1 ahh 20:43 nengard :) 20:43 libsysguy1 so what about making those changes? 20:43 nengard usually i copy the stuff out of update database and apply them directly in mysql - and then undo them there too 20:43 nengard don't know if that's the best way or not 20:44 libsysguy1 heh 20:44 sekjal libsysguy1: you can also create a second database for testing the new branch 20:44 libsysguy1 oh thats true 20:44 sekjal then update your koha-conf.xml to point at that DB 20:44 libsysguy1 i didn't think about that 20:44 sekjal you'll need to reindex, of course 20:44 libsysguy1 sadly :'( 20:44 sekjal and don't do it on a production codebase 20:44 sekjal but, for testing, it's one way of having multiple DB realities 20:45 libsysguy1 ok cool, thanks sekjalo 20:45 libsysguy1 sekjal** 20:48 sekjal no prob. glad to be of help 20:48 jcamins_away libsysguy1: I am, but I'll be here for a few minutes. 20:49 jcamins_away libsysguy1: never mind, sekjal explained it. 21:16 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 21:17 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.1�C (4:16 PM CDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday... 21:17 wizzyrea good lord. 23:34 * druthb1 hiccups 23:49 druthb 0.o two of me?