IRC log for #koha, 2011-07-08

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00:02 slef has anyone ever objected to any before?
00:03 rangi not on the new site
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00:11 slef any suggestions how to phrase it?
00:12 rangi hmm, its definitely a tricky one, maybe something like
00:12 rangi I have some serious concerns about this being listed
00:12 rangi the concerns are
00:12 rangi * blah
00:12 rangi * etc
00:13 rangi short and sweet
00:14 slef do I keep it to the stuff which is independent of us?
00:14 rangi hmm probably for the public list yeah .. i dont really know im afraid
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01:57 library_systems_guy1 so if i deleted my patches but they are signed off in QA...should i just wait till they get pushed or should i re-apply the patches
01:58 library_systems_guy1 (on my local setup)
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02:43 jcamins_away Hooray! I finished my cable wrapper, and it works!
02:46 jcamins_away I now have the most perfectly organized desk ever. :)
02:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5771] Better error handling for import borrowers - Provide a download file of errors <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5771>
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03:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5974] Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5974>
03:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6116] Adding child patron: library not set <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6116>
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04:35 stt can someone help me with this
04:36 stt we would like to add koha on livecd
04:36 stt i am wondering which version of koha should be added on livecd whether 3.4.2 or 3.2.10
04:36 stt does 3.4.2 stable or 3.2.10 is more stable
04:36 stt pl suggest
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06:07 alex_a hi
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06:16 stt hi
06:16 stt i wanted help on deciding version of koha to be used on livecd
06:16 cait morning #koha
06:16 stt can someone help
06:16 bg I'd go with 3.4.2
06:16 bg hi cait
06:22 cait hi bg
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06:22 bg @wunder 93109
06:22 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.8�C (11:21 PM PDT on July 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).
06:26 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.5�C (8:25 AM CEST on July 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
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06:34 francharb hello all
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06:44 cait hi francharb :)
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06:46 cait getting ready for gbsd? :)
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06:46 reiveune hello
06:47 cait hi reiveune and julian :)
06:47 julian hi cait , hi #koha !
06:47 reiveune hi cait
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06:56 cait wow
06:56 cait my new laptop is on the way now! finally!
06:57 cait should be delivered until noon... let's see :)
07:06 matts_away is now known as matts
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07:10 cait morning paul_p
07:10 paul_p hi cait
07:10 paul_p working on your new laptop or still the old one ?
07:11 cait still the old one - but got the delivery notice - should arrive until 12
07:11 cait now excited and waiting :)
07:13 cait biblibre getting ready for gbsd? :)
07:13 paul_p cait, I think so, just arriving at office ;-)
07:14 cait ok
07:14 cait any problems to be expected installing koha on ubuntu 64bit?
07:16 paul_p cait, no problem to expect, unless you have some strange hardware
07:16 cait ok, I am going to try
07:16 cait and hope that my hardware is not strange
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07:42 hdl hi all
07:45 cait hi hdl :)
07:46 sophie_m hello
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07:46 christophe_c hello all
07:47 clrh hi all
07:48 cait hi sophie_m, christophe_c and clrh :)
07:48 christophe_c hi cait
07:51 alex_a community day \o/
07:52 cait :)
07:54 alex_a reiveune: i look for bug #6534
07:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6534 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Duplicate opac renew buttons at the top of the checkouts list
07:59 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
08:00 christophe_c hi magnuse
08:01 magnuse bonjour christophe_c and #koha
08:02 cait god morgen magnuse!
08:02 * cait puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
08:03 magnuse ooh, nice, but i better get some proper breakfast first...
08:09 hdl cait: or magnuse can you test 5436 It appears to me that the faulty behaviour does not exist.
08:09 cait bug 5436
08:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
08:09 hdl So should be marked as signed off
08:10 hdl It is blocking some other patches for inclusion
08:14 cait delivery guy!
08:14 magnuse hdl: i can have a look after i get some food ;-)
08:15 * paul_p working with clrh & francharb on RFCs of pending features... first /me cleaning wiki existing RFCs...
08:15 * clrh listing all done / current / todo devs
08:16 reiveune alex_a: i look for bug #5871
08:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5871 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CSS changes for OPAC
08:16 cait hdl: sorry, new laptop has arrived!
08:16 cait have to unpack and install some free software :)
08:17 magnuse yay!
08:21 cait :)
08:32 paul_p cait/magnuse/anyone : i've problems finding how to add categories to wiki pages
08:33 paul_p could you help ? When I edit a new page, I just have : "Select categories:" and only "Home" category after the entry form
08:33 paul_p am I missing something ?
08:33 paul_p we use dokuwiki at BibLibre. It's hard to deal with more than 1 wiki syntax :(
08:33 cait sorry paul, don't know that - magnuse does :)
08:34 cait paul_p: using dokuwiki for my personal wiki too.. it is hard
08:34 paul_p at the end, i've :
08:34 paul_p Select categories:
08:34 paul_p Home
08:34 paul_p Summary:
08:34 paul_p This is a minor edit  Watch this page
08:34 hdl bug 4836
08:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4836 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, illegal date
08:34 paul_p magnuse, could you stop eating and come with us please ;-)
08:36 cait I think somethiing with the categories is broken
08:36 cait you have to add them using the wiki syntax
08:37 cait something like {...:...} perhaps
08:37 magnuse [[Category:Categoryname]]
08:38 magnuse sadly, you can't remove categories from a page, because of a malfunctioning plugin
08:38 paul_p grrr... the RFC page is now badly unusable, because it mixes already implemented features and pending ones...
08:39 magnuse paul_p: add [[Category:Categoryname]] to the bottom of a page to add it to the Categoryname category
08:39 paul_p and how to add a category ?
08:39 paul_p i wanted to have "implemented RFC" "submitted RFC" and "RFC"
08:40 magnuse paul_p: what i just said... the cateogry is created when you use it
08:40 paul_p to remove from the RFC page what is already in Koha, or what is waiting for sign-off
08:40 paul_p magnuse, and how to have categories/sub-categories ?
08:40 paul_p because RFC::implemented RFC would be good !
08:41 magnuse you give the sub-category the category of the super-category
08:41 magnuse well in and of themselves all categories are equal
08:41 magnuse but you can categorize categories into a hierarchy
08:42 magnuse so create the category "Implemented RFCs" (by using it) and then add [[Category:RFCs]] to the page for the "Implemented RFCs" category
08:44 magnuse we should all go sit on gmcharlt until he at least disables the plugin that is messing with the categories ;-)
08:45 paul_p magnuse++
08:45 paul_p
08:45 paul_p => now shows "implemented RFC"
08:45 cait paul_p++ magnuse++ :)
08:45 paul_p[…]y:Implemented_RFC now show "Add support for NORMARC"
08:46 magnuse yay!
08:46 magnuse paul_p++
08:46 * paul_p will now update the 82 RFCs to add a sub-category "Implemented RFC" or "Submitted RFC"
08:47 magnuse even more yay!
08:51 cait go paul_p go :)
08:51 * cait is trying to access her wifi with new laptop now
08:51 alex_a reiveune: bug 4048
08:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
08:52 alex_a reiveune: oops, wrong bug
08:52 alex_a bug 6314
08:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6314 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements
08:52 alex_a :)
08:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6080] Total is wrong in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6080>
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08:54 Brooke 0/
08:54 paul_p clrh, francharb StE serials RFC :[…]ption_serials_RFC
08:54 paul_p hi Brooke !
08:54 Brooke bonjour
08:54 paul_p (1st example I see)
08:55 francharb thanks paul_p
08:55 paul_p mediawiki-- (at least our mediawiki. BIG bugs ...)
08:55 Brooke fix the bugs :P
08:56 paul_p (when on page[…]ption_serials_RFC, clicking on the [Edit] link near "description", what i get is NOT what I expect...)
08:57 Brooke yuck
08:57 * paul_p already has a lot of things to do with Koha bugs ;-)
08:57 Brooke alright, I'm well aware of the risk in asking this bloody question
08:57 Brooke but how hard is wiki administration, anyway?
08:57 Brooke I'm kind of tired of stuff being broken, too.
08:59 magnuse paul_p: i'll agree that one is strange, when you lick on "edit" for something generated by a template you go to edit the template...
09:00 Brooke mm hmm
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09:02 sophie_m bug 5878
09:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5878 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , overdue printing fixes and improvements
09:04 paul_p clrh & francharb :[…]+University&go=Go is usefull !
09:05 paul_p clrh, & francharb = most StE features already have the RFC
09:05 alex_a fredericd: arround ?
09:06 francharb paul_p: i think some of them changed during the project
09:07 cait paul_p_ StE?
09:07 paul_p francharb, maybe, it was just to point you've already some entries
09:07 paul_p cait, StE = "Saint Etienne university"
09:07 francharb paul_p: ok, i will check them out!
09:11 cait thx paul_p
09:12 alex_a @seen fredericd
09:12 huginn alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <fredericd> thanks
09:12 alex_a :O
09:13 magnuse bug 6565
09:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6565 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Categories are broken on the wiki
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09:29 reiveune bug 6142
09:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6142 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/
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09:38 Brooke 0/
09:39 * Brooke puts her finger on cait's lappy to see what happens. ;)
09:39 cait hey
09:39 * cait glares
09:40 magnuse hiya caitnewlaptop
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09:40 cait gonna install ubuntu know - confirmed internet working :P
09:41 cait know= now
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09:45 magnuse hdl: sorry, i still see the "renewed" message related to bug 5436
09:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
09:46 hdl magnuse: I CANT reproduce that.
09:46 hdl So either attach your db to that bug
09:46 hdl Or fix that.
09:47 cait hdl?
09:47 hdl please.
09:47 paul_p mmm... someone is doing something on the wiki ? suddenly, categories are working !
09:48 magnuse hdl: not sure i can fix it, but i'll try and see what is causing it
09:52 hdl magnuse: or you can send me a data.sql and i will push that on
09:55 magnuse hdl: i'll have a look at the code first...
09:57 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6142] CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/ <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6142>
09:59 Brooke "Creating subcategories takes only a few additional steps. Adding a category tag to a category page makes the edited category a subcategory of the category specified in the tag." Fine example of why no one reads the manual. Silly mediawiki docudrone.
10:04 alex_a bug 2809
10:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2809 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Some search problems
10:08 reiveune bug 5621
10:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, amit.gupta, ASSIGNED , Google Translation for indian languages.
10:09 alex_a reiveune: i don't understand this bug
10:10 reiveune it' true alex_a
10:10 reiveune bug 5983
10:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5983 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Change the wording around the CAS login
10:10 reiveune :-D
10:10 alex_a There are 2 patches. The fisrt did not apply. But both are totaly different
10:19 cait I thik 6568 had already a patch somewhere
10:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6566] Checking if DB records are properly indexed <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566>
10:19 cait bug 6568
10:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6568 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , GetPendingIssues when no relatives provoke bad SQL request
10:20 cait bug 6280
10:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
10:20 cait and it's signed off
10:21 cait paul_p?
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10:31 Brooke 0/
10:35 paul_p cait, yes ?
10:35 * paul_p strart to be hungry...
10:35 cait ah, was not sure who was working on that bugs
10:36 cait ordering pizza today? ;)
10:36 * Brooke hands paul_p a croque-monsieur
10:36 cait i marked it duplicate - but you might want to check the code
10:41 Brooke fixingyourmistakewithouthavingtopesterpaul++
10:42 alex_a @Marseille [NEED-LUNCH]
10:42 huginn alex_a: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
10:42 * Brooke hands alex_a a french onion soup.
10:42 alex_a Brooke: oh thanks
10:42 Brooke if you guys would just get on the enhancement request for a teleporter, you wouldn't all be starving. ;)
10:43 alex_a Brooke: héhé :)
10:51 hdl cait: nice... Glad to see that my morning was just useless
10:52 cait hdl: excuse me?
10:52 cait sorry, but i shouted out as fast as I saw it could be already fixed
10:52 cait I might be wrong - perhaps checking the code will show if the other patch is still needed
10:52 cait or which is perhaps better
10:53 hdl never mind. Just me moaning
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10:56 hdl I should just have done  what was planned : singing off and not trying to solve problems i saw.
10:56 Brooke 0/
10:57 druthb o//
11:03 cait hi druthb
11:03 * cait has messed with the partitions and is stuck :(
11:04 Brooke blech #reasonsIdon'thaveKohaonmymacpro
11:05 druthb #reasonsIuseVirtualBoxratherthandualboot.
11:05 magnuse hdl: want me to send mysqldumps to dev_patches@... ?
11:05 Brooke this would be triple boot fwiw :P
11:05 slef hi all... it was a good breakfast but bleah to koha-devel :)
11:05 magnuse virtualbox++
11:06 slef hdl: yeah, mixing signing and fixing gets messy quick :-/
11:06 hdl magnuse: please
11:07 hdl well... slef can't refrain to fix kind of a blocker when I see one
11:07 cait I can understand, but filing bug report before fixing is good
11:08 cait give me a chance to tell you earlier ;)
11:08 slef hdl: yeah, but do that then, not sign off
11:09 hdl well. in order to test something, you need to have something that works.
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11:09 Brooke 0/
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11:20 * Brooke is wielding teh 4//350//3 p0//312 of teh 5ubc4+39012y
11:21 * druthb blinks.
11:22 * slef loses that at the end of the last word
11:23 slef goiry?
11:24 Brooke subcategory.
11:25 magnuse ah
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11:27 Brooke 0/
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11:31 Barrc_ Can anyone point me to the SIP install/config documentation. It seems to be gone from the docs page
11:32 cait which page are you looking for?
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11:36 magnuse gotta run, bbl
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11:37 Barrc_ There used to be a page (I think in the manual) that explains about the SIPServer.xml page, how to modify it and then how to run SIP
11:37 Barrc_ I know most of it, I have just having a strange problem with a 93 string and I wanted to reference some install instructions to make sure I have it setup correctly
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11:40 cait sorry Barrc I can't find the page
11:41 Barrc_ me neither!
11:42 Barrc_ In fact, there is nothing anywhere anymore about configuring the SIP server!
11:43 Brooke I suspect the material is still someplace, it's just a bear to find.
11:45 cait perhaps not moved from the old wiki?
11:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6314] UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6314>
11:46 Barrc_ yep, maybe. I'll keep searching - thanks.
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11:54 oleonard What's up, globsquad?
11:55 cait hi oleonard
11:55 hdl oleonard: hi
11:55 * cait is installing koha on her new laptop :D
11:58 hdl patch for bug 5436 due to template toolkit change.
11:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
11:58 hdl Bye bye 5436
11:58 cait :)
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12:02 cait sorry
12:02 cait old laptop is not happy today
12:06 oleonard I don't blame it.
12:07 hdl oops there is a branch for that :D
12:07 cait oleonard: yeah, probably knows I plan to replace it
12:08 hdl I am trying to apply patches from the bugs... multi workflow--
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12:31 hdl oleonard: bug 5009 : how does one activate auto completion ?
12:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5009 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , add autocomplete="off" to borrowernumbers and barcode forms
12:33 oleonard The patch disables the browser's built-in form autocompletion
12:33 oleonard The AJAX autocomplete is unchanged
12:33 oleonard Is that what you mean?
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12:38 oleonard Can anyone elaborate on Bug 6116? julian? What is the incorrect behavior? To test do I start by adding a child to an existing adult or by creating a new child record?
12:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Adding child patron: library not set
12:41 julian oleonard, looking...
12:41 hdl oleonard: ok got it
12:46 julian oleonard, to test 6116, you must create a new child, and then define a guarantor. The child's library must be set to guarantor's library
12:50 oleonard julian: How does the bug appear?
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12:53 julian oleonard, i'm not sure to understand your question... before this patch, the child library was not set to guarantor library
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12:55 oleonard Thanks julian, it's me that didn't understand. I get it now.
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13:39 library_systems_guy morning #koha
13:40 sekjal morning, library_systems_guy
13:43 cait hi sekjal :)
13:43 cait hi library_systems_guy
13:43 sekjal hi, cait
13:43 cait take a seat, claim a bug :P
13:43 library_systems_guy hey cait, sekjal
13:43 library_systems_guy yeah what is up with the uptick in bug squashing?
13:44 sekjal cait:  reviewing the patches list now, and then after some other work, I'll set to pushing things through QA
13:45 oleonard library_systems_guy: Global Bug Squashing Day
13:45 library_systems_guy nice
13:49 oleonard alex_a: Two paragraphs of instructions have been removed by your patch for Bug 6133. Is that in deference to the online help?
13:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs
13:51 cait sekal: :)
13:52 hdl mmmm
13:58 alex_a oleonard: don't understand ?
13:59 oleonard Why does that patch remove two paragraphs of instructions from the page?
14:01 alex_a oleonard: i try to remember why
14:04 alex_a hdl, paul_p do you remember why we did that ?
14:04 alex_a or is it just my (bad) idea ?
14:05 oleonard I could be argued that the online help should provide this information
14:05 oleonard I wondered if that was the justification
14:05 alex_a may be we got displaying problems with both warning and instructions
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14:06 cait1 hi :)
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14:07 ciat t
14:07 jcamins_away ciat: I think you misspelled your name. :)
14:07 ciat yeah, still wrong?
14:07 ciat had a mistake in my pidgin configuration
14:07 ciat hi jcamins :)
14:07 ciat I am baking almond-cherry-cake
14:07 jcamins_away I have to say, it's very disorienting. ;)
14:08 jcamins_away The i and a are in the wrong order.
14:08 jcamins_away Mmm.
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14:08 cait better?
14:08 jcamins_away Much, thank you.
14:08 paul_p alex_a, & oleonard we did that because it should be in online help, oleonard is right
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14:09 alex_a paul_p: thx
14:09 alex_a oleonard: are you ok with that ?
14:10 oleonard Yes, I just wanted to make sure I understood why
14:10 * oleonard is reformatting the patch for T:T with some formatting changes
14:10 paul_p oleonard++
14:10 cait oleonard++ :)
14:11 alex_a oleonard++
14:11 alex_a :)
14:11 paul_p jcamins_away, I think you misspelled too: you're not away if you "speak" here :D
14:11 jcamins_away paul_p: I'll be leaving for a bus shortly.
14:12 nengard oleonard do you know the bug number for that feature that was being worked on to add the 'back to results' and next/previous links to the opac detail page?
14:12 paul_p (was kidding ;-) )
14:12 jcamins_away paul_p: I know.
14:14 oleonard Bug 6483
14:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
14:14 alex_a jcamins_away: then, it should be better jcamins_leaving_for_a_bus_shortly
14:14 alex_a ;)
14:14 alex_a =>[]
14:17 jcamins_away alex_a: people get annoyed when my nick is longer than my average sentence length (and I write long sentences!). ;)
14:18 * cait shares some cake with #koha
14:21 hdl magnus_away: at least I have the bug too
14:38 cait reproducable_bugs++
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14:43 jcamins_away Woohoo! I just closed 18 bugs!
14:44 * library_systems_guy claps for jcamins_away
14:44 library_systems_guy and hand over cookies
14:45 * slef is jealous :)
14:45 slef jcamins_away++
14:45 cait :)
14:45 cait me too
14:46 cait but about to clone the koha git repository now - almost there
14:46 jcamins_away 19.
14:46 library_systems_guy i feel like this is lord of the rings...bugs version
14:46 slef jcamins_away: I hope they're not going to come back as REOPENED!
14:47 jcamins_away slef: I hope not too.
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14:56 wizzyrea cait did you ever get into G+
14:57 oleonard Do I understand correctly that to have barcodes show up on the patrons list of checkouts in the OPAC you have to set a patron attribute type for them?
14:58 cait wizzyrea: have to try that later
14:58 cait got new laptop today and busy installing koha :)
14:58 wizzyrea oh cool it came!
14:59 cait yep, in the morning today :)
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15:02 oleonard my $show_barcode = C4::Members::AttributeTypes::AttributeTypeExists( ATTRIBUTE_SHOW_BARCODE );
15:02 oleonard ?
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15:02 sekjal oleonard:  determines whether to show the item's barcode in the OPAC My Summary; configurable on a per-person basis using Extended Attributes
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15:07 oleonard What code and value are required?
15:07 sekjal links to YesNo authorized value list
15:08 cait an authorized value list for yes/no?
15:08 oleonard sekjal: "SHOW_BCODE" is the code?
15:09 sekjal I believe so, yes, oleonard
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15:10 sekjal I'll readily admit that it's kind of a strange way of doing it, but it seems to work
15:11 oleonard Yeah, seems to work.
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15:13 oleonard Is that documented?
15:20 rhcl_away RE: G+   - It appears you can invite anyone in your email list. I just got in.
15:21 wizzyrea yea they opened it up a day or so ago
15:21 wizzyrea from invite only
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15:30 wizzyrea ohh there goes atlantis
15:33 jcamins_away Time to head to MD.
15:35 sekjal oleonard:  I'm hoping nengard can get you a link to that, once she's free
15:35 wizzyrea safe travels jcamins
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15:44 cait apache--
15:44 wizzyrea !
15:44 cait I am sorry
15:44 cait only a little frustrated
15:44 cait apache++
15:45 wizzyrea hehe no
15:45 wizzyrea apache can be a pain sometimes
15:45 cait it's probably a typo somewhere in my config or something
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15:46 cait oh ysay
15:47 cait it was a typo in the mysql connection
15:49 SirDekar hi, could anyone provide me a working tutorial to install and set up Koha server please?
15:49 cait yay!
15:50 cait SirDekar: there is lots of documentation for different os
15:50 cait which os are you using?
15:50 SirDekar I know
15:50 SirDekar I can get any, now I tried with debian squeeze
15:50 SirDekar 32bits
15:51 cait have you checked the install files that come with koha?
15:51 SirDekar yup
15:51 cait in your koha folder you should have files like INSTALL.*
15:51 SirDekar It says lenny
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15:51 SirDekar should I get lenny instead of squeeze?
15:52 cait it shoul dnot be so different
15:52 cait you can also use the packages from to install koha
15:52 SirDekar yes, in INSTALL.debian they mention lenny
15:52 cait gonna reboot, will be back
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15:53 SirDekar ok
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15:53 nengard sekjal oleonard http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#opacmysummary
15:54 nengard under the second image is where it starts
15:54 oleonard Thanks nengard
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16:12 SirDekar too
16:13 SirDekar this repository "deb squeeze main" keeps saying broken packages
16:13 cait I installed koha-common from there today
16:14 cait it seemed to work nicely
16:14 SirDekar which is your OS?
16:14 cait ubuntu 11.4
16:15 SirDekar is it 32bits or 64bits?
16:18 cait 64
16:18 cait but I have a dev installation with git, using the packages only to get the dependencies installed
16:21 clrh bye all
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16:22 slef I don't know if the packages are OK at the mo. Anyone know besides eyethian?
16:22 cait I think ther eis no working package for 3.4
16:22 cait you are right
16:22 slef but for 3.2 on squeeze should still work?
16:22 cait i think so
16:23 slef about the packages
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16:32 SirDekar got to lunch, thanks cait for your help
16:32 SirDekar brb in 1 hour
16:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6484] Due date sorter on 'my summary' missing <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6484>
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17:19 nengard_lunch oleonard i don't understand what 6569 fixes
17:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6569] Split menu button not working with "search to hold" operations <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6569>
17:19 nengard_lunch is now known as nengard
17:19 oleonard Do you understand what I mean by the split button?
17:19 nengard oh! is it only when you're doing the search to hold for the patron
17:19 nengard yes
17:19 nengard i mean - no i don't
17:20 nengard hehe
17:20 oleonard After you click "search to hold" from a patron's record, perform a search.
17:20 oleonard When you get your search results, the "Place hold" button has a little down arrow for expanding a menu
17:21 nengard okay
17:21 nengard understand that now
17:21 oleonard For me at least, clicking the down arrow submits the button instead of just displaying the menu
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17:22 nengard hmm
17:22 Brooke paste screenshot?
17:22 nengard not for me
17:22 Brooke webcast?
17:23 nengard when i click the down arrow it works
17:23 nengard but i'll test anyway :)
17:23 nengard okay after applying your patch it still works for me :)
17:23 nengard should i sign off
17:23 nengard what browser are you in?
17:24 slef hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
17:24 nengard ?
17:25 slef nm, that email.
17:25 oleonard nengard: Firefox 3.6.
17:25 nengard hmm
17:25 nengard me too
17:26 nengard wait
17:26 nengard no ... i'm so brain dead
17:26 nengard I'm in FF 5
17:26 nengard so maybe someone with an older browser needs to test
17:26 oleonard The bug happens for me in Chrome too
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17:28 slef So... the unpublishable state of the EDIFACT code, with the hardcoding and never applying to master, is not the fault of the developer we contracted and no longer use. I struggle to express my reply in words. Maybe sekjal can offer an independent view on it, else I'll just write something short and sweet.
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17:30 nengard oleonard i'll try in chrome
17:32 nengard okay - works in chrome for me with and without the patch
17:39 * oleonard grumbles
17:42 oleonard No wonder no one complained about it not working... Apparently it's only broken for me
17:48 oleonard ...but with every browser I try.
17:50 oleonard is now known as oleonard-away
17:51 nengard oleonard have you tried another computer?
18:10 oleonard-away is now known as oleonard
18:10 oleonard Doesn't happen on the Bywater demo fwiw
18:11 sekjal slef:  I'll address the EDIFACT comment
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18:18 wizzyrea fwiw, published criteria for how to get listed[…]ow-to-get-listed/
18:18 library_systems_guy w00t got a G+ invite :D
18:18 wizzyrea :) yay!
18:18 wizzyrea (look me up)
18:19 wizzyrea (if you want)
18:19 nengard library_systems_guy should have told me or wizzyrea we could have invited you ages ago :)
18:19 nengard i'm there too
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18:21 library_systems_guy wizzyrea: what is your email?
18:21 wizzyrea, of course.
18:21 wizzyrea ;)
18:21 library_systems_guy found you :D
18:23 library_systems_guy i think it is funny that google suggested that i friend all of the Koha devels and none of my college friends
18:23 wizzyrea hee
18:24 wizzyrea well, uh, did you add me as one of the first?
18:24 wizzyrea that might be why it suggested that way
18:25 library_systems_guy umm actually i added my programming friends in Cali lol
18:25 library_systems_guy IT KNOWS...
18:25 library_systems_guy lol
18:25 wizzyrea :)
18:34 library_systems_guy ahh its so hard to find Koha devels on here because I don't know anybodies real name lol
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19:04 seneca Does anyone have a link to instructions for upgrading the VM appliance (probably through Git, I think) from v 3.02 to current?
19:06 seneca *crickets* :)
19:08 oleonard Why does clicking "check out" on an empty checkout form trigger a print receipt window?
19:08 oleonard This feature was added as being turned on by default?
19:08 wizzyrea whoa that's not cool
19:09 wizzyrea anybody here still need a g+ invite?
19:09 wizzyrea I have some
19:09 oleonard Of course I could be wrong wizzyrea. Today my installation is haunted.
19:10 wizzyrea hmm
19:10 wizzyrea let me update
19:10 wizzyrea what did you do, look up a patron
19:11 wizzyrea then submit an empty form?
19:11 oleonard Yeah, with a patron open and ready for checking something out, click check out with nothing in the barcode field
19:11 wizzyrea yes, it does do that for me too
19:12 wizzyrea I don't see a preference to control it
19:12 wizzyrea maybe in local use
19:12 * wizzyrea checks
19:13 seneca Does anyone have any generic Koha update-via-git steps I can try? Related - any reason I can't go directly from 3.02 to current?
19:13 wizzyrea AHA
19:13 oleonard No, I found the markup. It's not controlled by a preference.
19:13 wizzyrea oo
19:13 wizzyrea nm then
19:13 wizzyrea but there is one in local use
19:13 wizzyrea "printcirculationslips"
19:13 oleonard I'm surprised rangi hasn't already spotted this one, it breaks the old behavior of clicking the check out button to clear the screen.
19:13 oleonard Speaking of whom... where is rangi?
19:14 wizzyrea weekend ;)
19:14 oleonard That usually doesn't stop him from being logged in
19:14 wizzyrea something about the way you said that reminded me of the guy in LOTR -- the elf king/consort guy in lothlorien
19:14 wizzyrea "Where is gandalf? I have many things to speak with him about"
19:16 Brooke wizzyrea++
19:16 oleonard The only reference I find in the code to printcirculationslips is in
19:17 wizzyrea odd
19:17 oleonard Bug 4389
19:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4389 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit
19:18 * oleonard doesn't like that at all
19:18 wizzyrea that really ought to be a preference
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19:19 oleonard And it ought to clear the screen in the process.
19:19 wizzyrea *nod*
19:21 oleonard The things we do to save a click.
19:21 oleonard I wonder how many times a librarian is going to dismiss that print dialog because they didn't really mean to print the slip *again*
19:22 wizzyrea in our case, how many wasted miles of paper
19:22 wizzyrea since we print automagically
19:23 wizzyrea imma comment on that
19:26 seneca OK, I think I found something - but I'm getting errors connecting to
19:26 oleonard As well you should!
19:26 oleonard
19:26 seneca hey - it worked last time I upgraded ;)
19:27 seneca ok, that makes sense
19:27 seneca I'm just running the default "git fetch origin" - where should I change to (I can probably grep for it)
19:29 seneca ok, grepping in the kohaclone folder didn't help...
19:30 seneca any hints would be appreciated
19:31 oleonard http://lists.koha-community.or[…]0-May/034052.html
19:31 jcamins_away git remote add kc git://
19:31 jcamins_away git fetch kc
19:32 jcamins_away git checkout -b master kc/master
19:32 jcamins_away That will create a new remote.
19:33 sekjal okay, all, I'm pushing signed off bugs through QA.  Starting with the highest severity ones first, but I'll take requests, if anyone has something that's pending QA
19:34 seneca thanks !
19:34 jcamins_away I think this bus is shaking itself to pieces.
19:35 seneca You're on a bus?
19:35 jcamins_away Yes. Or coach, if that's the word you prefer.
19:36 seneca Ah, 2011. How I love you so.
19:38 seneca Hmm, the commands that jcamins_away posted disagree with the instructions in oleonard's link...
19:38 seneca Who wins?
19:38 jcamins_away oleonard.
19:38 seneca well ok
19:38 jcamins_away My way definitely works, but it does something slightly different.
19:38 jcamins_away Probably.
19:38 seneca or not - my git (on debian) doens't like the "set-url"
19:38 seneca which is in the oleonard link
19:39 oleonard seneca: See the follow-up message: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]0-May/034054.html
19:39 oleonard ..and http://lists.koha-community.or[…]0-May/034057.html
19:40 jcamins_away Ah. Well, I don't know about that. The commands I suggested are what I use to configure my git, since I have an irregularly updated local mirror to save on bandwidth.
19:40 jcamins_away They will also work in your situation.
19:42 seneca My git was old - I thought I had dist-upgraded this box recently, but had not. Doing that now and it should fix itself. Thanks for the hints
19:42 seneca after switching to the new remote, will the normal ~6 git upgrade steps work as usual?
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19:46 oleonard Which steps are you referring to seneca?
19:47 seneca Oh, the ones I found in my bash history. ;) ...
19:47 seneca 1. git fetch origin
19:47 seneca 2. git checkout origin/master
19:47 seneca 3. git branch -M master old_master
19:47 seneca 4. git checkout master
19:47 seneca 5. git branch master
19:48 seneca those
19:48 seneca I'm assuming they worked last time... It's been a while since I've upgraded this install
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19:52 seneca sorry - blinked out there for second
19:52 seneca closed the wrong tab...
19:55 oleonard Good globsquadding today folks. Til next time,
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19:59 seneca erm... git's telling me I have local changes to etc/koha.conf.xml and that I can't switch branches... I don't remember changing anything, but I'll take its word. Anyone know a workaround?
19:59 sekjal seneca:  git diff will show you what's changed locally
19:59 sekjal so you can see if it's important to keep or not
20:00 sekjal if so, you can do 'git stash', then change branches, and 'git stash apply' to reply the chances to etc/koha-conf.xml (if they still apply)
20:01 seneca Cool, thanks. Can you tell I never use git except for randomly upgrading my Koha install? I think the only diff is one less space at the beginning of one line
20:01 seneca I'll try your git stash recommendation
20:02 seneca actually, I just added the space
20:03 seneca seems happy with it
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20:06 seneca OK, finished with the last git command I had (git checkout master) - are there more steps?
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20:07 seneca getting some errors:
20:08 library_systems_guy seneca: do you have the path set correctly for the perl lib and koha conf
20:09 seneca I think so - I'l re-export them
20:09 seneca yeah
20:10 library_systems_guy oh yeah i see that now...oops
20:10 seneca the first error seems odd - is it saying it can't find "" _in_"
20:10 seneca er -s
20:10 library_systems_guy does that file exist in C4?
20:11 seneca Ha! No, but the plural version does
20:11 seneca lemme symlink a fix...
20:11 library_systems_guy *smh* lol
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20:12 seneca hmm
20:12 seneca ok, that didn't fix it
20:13 seneca looking at the first error again, the thing it can't find is singular, but the file in C4 referenced is the (correct) plural
20:14 library_systems_guy and you have the Template module installed from Cpan
20:14 library_systems_guy or wherever you might have installed it TT will run correctly
20:15 seneca I guess I did before... Where is that module/file to be located?
20:16 library_systems_guy umm somebody else may have to help me out on that one...
20:16 library_systems_guy i can never remember what the package is called
20:16 library_systems_guy libperl-something i think
20:17 seneca I have files named in multiple locations, including the current clone dir
20:18 library_systems_guy you were upgrading correct? sorry i came in late on the convo with sekjal
20:18 seneca yeah (and I appreciate yours and everyone else's help)
20:18 seneca from 3.02 to current
20:18 library_systems_guy hmm, did you re-run make?
20:19 seneca post gitting?
20:19 library_systems_guy yes
20:19 library_systems_guy first
20:19 seneca nope
20:19 library_systems_guy beware that it might modify your koha-conf file
20:19 seneca I've got backups
20:19 library_systems_guy ok cool *phew*
20:20 library_systems_guy id try ru-running make
20:20 seneca let me do that - it makes sense that that's a required step, I just didn't know about it...
20:20 library_systems_guy ok lets see how that works out
20:21 seneca being asked how I want to install Koha - this menu is new to me..reading now
20:21 library_systems_guy dev
20:21 library_systems_guy is rebuilding your makefile for you
20:21 seneca think so, yeah
20:21 library_systems_guy good thing you have backups
20:21 library_systems_guy :D
20:21 seneca I suppose if I'm using the old VM appliance and running from git I want "dev" right?
20:22 seneca always :)
20:22 library_systems_guy correct
20:25 seneca ok, re-ran make
20:25 seneca same errors :(
20:25 library_systems_guy :'(
20:26 library_systems_guy a little stumped
20:27 seneca hmmm, well, thanks for your help
20:27 library_systems_guy sorry still a little new as well
20:27 seneca no worries!
20:28 seneca I appreciate the time
20:28 library_systems_guy i hope you get it figured out :)
20:28 seneca me too :)
20:29 seneca look - all fixed (wink)
20:30 library_systems_guy heh
20:30 seneca just putting the clone dir back from the copy I made pre-process fixed it, I think...
20:31 seneca I'll investigate the differences between the two clone dirs
20:31 library_systems_guy hmm...odd indeed
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20:41 seneca Ha! Progress, sort of!
20:48 seneca HA!
20:49 seneca solved it - just had to upgrade the Template perl module
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20:49 library_systems_guy yayy seneca++
20:49 seneca man, I'm really bad about keeping this updated!
20:50 seneca thanks for all your help lsg, if I may call you that
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20:51 wizzyrea oh yea
20:51 wizzyrea I bet the VM uses H::T::P
20:51 wizzyrea and we now use T::T
20:51 wizzyrea derr
20:51 seneca and my vm does as well
20:52 seneca no worries - there are just a FEW things to remember... ;)
20:52 library_systems_guy of course seneca
20:52 seneca I'm documenting this experience for myself so that I don't have to bug so many people next time!
20:52 library_systems_guy haha yeah i started doing that in a blog...but it is in need of an update
20:53 magnuse library_systems_guy: i'm "magnus enger" on g+... ;-)
20:53 magnuse and kudos to everyone who has contributed to gbsd - so far!
20:54 library_systems_guy you are in my Koha circle magnuse
20:54 seneca hehe - I just got my invite and account set up - I was going to see if anyone wanted an invite as payment for helping me out :)
20:54 magnuse library_systems_guy: yay!
20:54 library_systems_guy wizzyrea: where did you find that pic of the GGS
20:54 seneca I'm Bryan Lakatos on g+
20:54 library_systems_guy err G+GS
20:54 wizzyrea dunno, someone in my stream
20:54 wizzyrea posted it
20:55 library_systems_guy thats awesome
20:56 seneca I'm more than happy to help anyone with their run of the mill, non git or koha related Linux questions ;)
20:56 library_systems_guy how about ppl who are banging their heads against the wall with drupal
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20:57 seneca man, we use Joomla here
20:57 seneca but I'll gladly do what I can
20:57 seneca if you want to vent
20:57 library_systems_guy its ok...just momentary frustration with upgrades
20:58 seneca must be a theme today
20:58 library_systems_guy but thanks seneca
20:58 library_systems_guy exactly welcome to gbsd day :p
20:58 library_systems_guy that was redundant...sorry
20:58 seneca sure thing - g+ me if there's anything else you need help for
20:58 seneca haha
20:59 library_systems_guy bbl #koha
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21:01 magnuse have fun, #koha!
21:01 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
21:07 seneca And that makes it a weekend (whatever that's good for). Take care all!
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21:08 bg  go to the 1:41 mark -- you'll see "our" NateC
21:10 wizzyrea :O
21:10 wizzyrea lucky duckie!
21:18 gmcharlt here's my office mate of the moment -[…]73/in/photostream
21:19 wizzyrea omgosh... that is an adorable kitten
21:19 wizzyrea reminds me of my cat when he was a kitten
21:19 wizzyrea huge ears, dirty nose, shifty face ;)
21:19 gmcharlt :)
21:20 wizzyrea more like "excuse me, the flash woke me from my nap"
21:23 rhcl like[…]5/in/photostream/
21:24 rhcl Time for the baseball game.  LTR
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22:01 wizzyrea later peeps!
22:02 bg later wizzyrea
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22:34 cait hi #koha
22:37 bg hey cait
22:37 cait hi bg :)
22:37 bg --> check that out - it's NateC at the 1:41 mark
22:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.7�C (12:35 AM CEST on July 09, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
22:37 bg @wunder 93109
22:37 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.2�C (3:36 PM PDT on July 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling).
22:37 bg ouch hot here
22:37 cait yeah
22:37 cait and rain here
22:38 bg NateC went to the last shuttle launch today :D
22:38 cait watching
22:38 cait :)
22:38 bg you met him in NZ right?
22:38 cait yes
22:38 bg thought so
22:38 cait :)
22:39 cait oh i see him!
22:45 bg :)
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