IRC log for #koha, 2011-06-09

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00:15 mtj any bywater or NELKS folks about atm?
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00:57 Brooke kia ora
01:07 mtj heya Brooke
01:07 Brooke ello ello :D
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01:57 Brooke kia ora
01:58 rangi hey Brooke
01:58 Brooke 0/
02:00 Space_Librarian o/
02:04 mtj folks, i have a dumb Q about testing for perl eval{}
02:04 mtj i have a SIP telnet loop, that looks like its auth-ing OK
02:05 mtj but the auth is wrapped in an eval, thats returning ''
02:05 mtj which doesnt quite look right...
02:06 rangi
02:06 mtj line 230 of
02:06 rangi eval will be undef
02:06 rangi unless an error occured
02:06 mtj[…]736d;hb=HEAD#l230
02:10 rangi yeah thats kinda flawed
02:10 rangi because if you get the password wrong 3 times
02:10 rangi you wont get an error that eval traps
02:10 rangi and you wont be logged in
02:10 rangi but it will tell you you are
02:11 rangi from a cursory read (which is all i have time for at the mo)
02:12 mtj yeah, i might have to do some experimenting
02:13 mtj i switched from a sockets, to a telnet setup - coz i found this successfult writeup for telnet
02:13 mtj[…]o-work-with-koha/
02:13 rangi pioneer dont use koha
02:13 mtj and the EXPECT stuff is almost working, apart from this little bug
02:14 rangi but i dont think the sip has diverged that much
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02:26 mtj ah, ok  - i'll send bywater/nelks an email then
02:26 mtj .. and get some some SIP info from them
02:26 rangi cool
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02:36 Brooke 0/
02:37 rangi its wizzyrea
02:37 rangi her ears must have been burning
02:37 Brooke the koha force was utilised
02:38 Brooke explain SIP you must.
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02:41 wizzyrea oh lord!
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02:41 wizzyrea ok, what's the question
02:41 wahanui i guess the question is of indexing authority records in Zebra as MARCXML instead of ISO2709.
02:41 wizzyrea forget the question
02:41 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot question
02:41 wizzyrea the question is <reply>
02:41 wizzyrea the question?
02:41 wahanui well, the question is if the translator script will be changed for template toolkit
02:41 wizzyrea lol
02:41 wizzyrea forget the question
02:41 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot question
02:42 wizzyrea question is <reply>
02:42 wizzyrea the question?
02:42 wahanui the question is if the translator script will be changed for template toolkit
02:42 rangi no question
02:42 rangi i just poured chilli powder on your ears
02:42 wizzyrea !!!
02:42 wizzyrea owie
02:42 wizzyrea teh burning!
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02:42 rangi but seriously, mtj was gonna ask about sip
02:42 wizzyrea aha
02:43 Brooke chilis, where?!
02:43 wizzyrea in mah belleh, had mexican for dinner :)
02:44 wizzyrea did he take off?
02:44 rangi could be
02:44 mtj nope, here still
02:44 wizzyrea oh hai
02:44 mtj just emailed you wiz..
02:44 wizzyrea ah kk
02:45 mtj got 5 mins?
02:45 wizzyrea that I do
02:45 wizzyrea the 3m's are using telnet, and afaik it's vanilla sip code
02:45 wizzyrea i will hassle our vendor for a copy of our config :)0
02:45 wizzyrea I probably have an old one
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02:47 Brooke heyyyy you're not away at all :P
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03:03 jransom Kia ora everyone
03:03 wizzyrea hi jransom :)
03:03 jransom psst: did you know I'm going to India :)
03:03 wizzyrea lucky!
03:03 jransom heya Liz
03:03 jransom so so so lucky
03:03 jransom and so so so excited
03:04 wizzyrea we made your anzac biscuits from your blog a while back... so yummy
03:04 wizzyrea spud loved them
03:04 Brooke 0/
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03:05 Space_Librarian Hey Jo! Hooray!
03:05 Brooke hey pianohacker
03:05 wizzyrea i'm so excited for you jo, that's gonna be an awesome trip
03:06 Brooke mmmm ANZAC...
03:07 pianohacker dammit, compiz ate all my RAM
03:08 pianohacker bad compiz! no donut!
03:08 wizzyrea hehe I've missed you ph
03:08 wizzyrea oh no lol sony's hacked again I guess
03:08 Brooke aye
03:08 Brooke imagine that
03:09 Brooke they don't really change much
03:09 Brooke and they're chronically h4xx0123d
03:09 jransom sorry on phone
03:09 wizzyrea you almost wonder if it's coming from the inside
03:09 rangi naw, they are just incompetent
03:09 eythian the phone call, or sony? :)
03:10 rangi probably both
03:10 wizzyrea rofl
03:10 rangi ah no its still the sonypictures site
03:12 jransom not Sony (silly people)
03:13 jransom been offered 8 scrapbooks spanning about 90 years of Levin history for scanning and adding to Kete
03:13 rangi cool
03:13 wizzyrea ooo nice
03:13 jransom yup - loads of work - but very cool.
03:13 jransom His kids want the originals so we have to get before he dies!
03:13 jransom I love old people - so pragmatic
03:14 rangi i love young people - so idealistic
03:14 jransom :)
03:14 rangi pragmatism pushes all my buttons
03:14 jransom me too
03:14 rangi mostly cos its used to justify doing bad
03:14 rangi cos its easier
03:14 jransom wizzyrea: so glad you enjoyed anzac biscuits - I don't know a kid who doesnt!
03:15 wizzyrea :D
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03:20 Brooke uh oh
03:20 eythian look what you did
03:20 * Brooke promises not to touch the power cord again. ;)
03:21 eythian <-- Brooke
03:21 eythian wahanui: Brooke is also <reply>Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet.
03:21 wahanui okay, eythian.
03:21 wizzyrea "there's a lot of caching"
03:21 jransom its a day of presents!
03:22 Brooke rofl!
03:22 jransom Just got given packets of 'trick' playing cards for my boy onnor
03:22 wizzyrea brooke
03:22 wizzyrea brooke?
03:22 wahanui rumour has it brooke is deprecated or <reply>Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet
03:22 Brooke heheheh
03:22 Brooke I like that one :D
03:23 eythian no wahanui, brooke is deprecated|<reply>Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet
03:23 wahanui okay, eythian.
03:23 eythian I need to fix its bug with 'also'
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03:25 Amit_Gupta heya chris good morning  ;)
03:25 Brooke 0/
03:25 bg hi Amit_Gupta
03:26 rangi hi Amit_Gupta
03:29 jransom heya Amnit
03:29 Amit_Gupta heya jransom
03:29 jransom Brooke and I are planning our India jaunt
03:29 Brooke :D
03:29 jransom :)
03:29 jransom thinking we might spend a fews days in Goa
03:30 jransom Panaji to be excat
03:30 * Space_Librarian is ever so slightly envious
03:30 bg Goa is totally worth it
03:30 bg lot's of fun and great beaches
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03:30 * ibeardslee has not done any 'exotic' travel
03:30 jransom ohh - sounds perfect
03:31 jransom need to get nice and relaxed before the craziness of kohacon11
03:31 ibeardslee .au and Connecticut .. that's as close to any OE :(
03:31 Brooke oh my
03:31 Brooke did a Californian just compliment someone else's beaches?
03:31 bg heh
03:31 Brooke Screenshot!
03:31 Amit_Gupta heya Brooke
03:31 bg ibeardslee: Connecticut?
03:31 jransom suspect I will find all the people and noise a bit mindblowing (living in a village of 3,000 and working in a town of 16,000)
03:32 bg jransom: it's totally overwhelming - but worth it
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03:33 ibeardslee bg: many years ago, my Dad was living there
03:33 bg ahh..  I grew up in Connecticut - just moved away from there three years ago
03:33 * Brooke got married there.
03:33 bg heh - where?
03:33 Brooke Golden Hill res
03:34 ibeardslee Groton .. each time I hear the word I can almost hear my grandmother saying it
03:34 ibeardslee s/hear/see/
03:34 bg ah groton..  :)
03:34 ibeardslee gah .. not on the 2nd one
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04:12 jransom Ranginui may ned to start paying me on commission I think ...
04:13 rangi ?
04:16 Brooke heh
04:16 Brooke better cough up boy-o
04:16 Brooke although
04:17 Brooke Law of Large numbers fail
04:17 Brooke[…]n-to-two-gamblers
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04:24 * Oak waves
04:24 Brooke 0/
04:24 Oak heya Brooke :)
04:25 Brooke Salaam
04:25 Oak oh
04:25 Oak Walaikum Asalam
04:25 Brooke right, best put meself to bid!
04:26 Oak bed?
04:27 Oak sorry, did not get what you mean
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04:29 cait hi #koha
04:29 Brooke tag
04:30 Oak Guten morgen cait :)
04:30 cait hi Brooke and Oak :)
04:30 eythian hello
04:30 wahanui hola, eythian
04:30 mtj ooooh, 3m-unit ....*sorted* ;)
04:30 Brooke noice!
04:31 mtj yep - its given me the green-screen of WIN :)
04:32 mtj gsow > bsod
04:34 mtj the catch for me was... the 3m-box needs a complete restart before the *saved* config changes are active :/
04:34 jransom ranginui: just reduirected more busines catalyst way
04:34 jransom i have your phone number memozied now
04:34 jransom Hi Caitlin
04:34 mtj towards the end of the day, i clicked that saved != active
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04:36 cait hi jo :)
04:37 jransom heya
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04:42 rangi jransom: oh cool
04:42 rangi jransom: ive just been talking to the developer for wheelers ebooks
04:42 rangi sounds good
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04:43 cait hi rangi
04:43 rangi heya cait
04:43 rangi how goes the thingy, did you present already?
04:44 cait nope
04:44 cait today, 13:30 - 16:00 - my presentation is the last of four
04:45 jransom cait needs lots and lots of virtual hugs and good wishes
04:45 cait yes, she does
04:45 jransom ranginui: theosophical society ringing you too: have 10 libs in NZ to hook together in Koha
04:45 cait and crossed fingers
04:45 * Space_Librarian give cait a whole bunch of cookies
04:46 Space_Librarian gives, even
04:46 cait thx Space_Librarian :)
04:46 jransom xxxxxxx0000000 thats hugs and kisses "nana-style"
04:47 jransom ranginui: you think we can get wheelers koha playing nicely?
04:48 rangi we sure can
04:49 jransom well that would be excellent
04:49 jransom by launch date: 30 june?
04:50 rangi could be
04:50 rangi it sounds like it will just talk SIP2 so should just work
04:50 jransom sweet
04:52 Oak good luck cait
04:52 cait thx Oak:)
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04:59 francharb Hello world! ;)
04:59 Space_Librarian hello francharb
04:59 Oak hello francharb :)
05:03 cait hi francharb :)
05:08 eythian rangi: git send-email --to=kpatches HEAD^ does work
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05:17 eythian u
05:19 cait1 s?
05:20 cait1 ;)
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05:21 cait1 hm.
05:21 Oak hmm
05:22 cait1 breakfast time :)
05:22 Oak oh good
05:22 Oak what are we having?
05:22 eythian I could go for some pancakes.
05:22 eythian with bacon and banana
05:24 ibeardslee nom nom nom
05:30 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6486] Need a quick way to access mysql as the user for a koha instance <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6486>
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05:32 eythian ^-- handy patch there, for anyone who wants it!
05:34 eythian It's free!
05:38 fredericd rangi: Could you apply bug 6464 patch? I will try to use it next time when updating .po files in Koha git repository..
05:38 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6464 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Add inconsistence check for '%s' count in
05:39 cait1 no pancakes at the hotel this year
05:39 cait1 scrambled eggs and bacon
05:40 cait1 bbl
05:40 fredericd hello cait1
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05:55 rangi will do fredericd
05:56 fredericd thanks
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06:26 eythian OK, so using bulkmarcimport from 3.2 will apparently not work on 3.4. At least, I hope that's my issue.
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06:32 reiveune hello
06:32 Oak hello reiveune :)
06:32 reiveune hi Oak
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06:42 eythian anyone know why I can merge a remote branch into one of mine just fine, but when I do a rebase against that same branch (in order to get all my commits at the top) I get a huge number of conflicts?
06:43 eythian that doesn't make sense with the way I think git works
06:45 eythian It's not even my code that's conflicting, it seems to be things in 3.2.x conflicting against each other, which makes less sense.
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06:57 alex_a hello all
06:57 Oak hello alex_a :)
06:58 alex_a bonjour Oak
06:58 Oak :)
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06:59 matts hello all
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07:01 christophe_c hello
07:01 wahanui hi, christophe_c
07:01 christophe_c ;-)
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07:08 marcelr morning all
07:12 Oak morning marcelr :)
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07:18 cait hi fredericd
07:18 cait and fredericd++ :)
07:19 sophie_m hello #koha
07:21 eythian wahanui: rebasing is a special thing \you do \when \you want history to die
07:21 wahanui OK, eythian.
07:21 eythian wahanui: rebasing
07:21 wahanui rebasing is probably a special thing you do when you want history to die
07:22 hdl hi fredericd
07:22 hdl hi eythian I agreee
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07:26 cait hi hdl and clrh
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07:42 eythian with the new splitting of items from biblios, where do the items marc fragments go?
07:44 eythian it's not in biblioitems, which is expected, but I can't see it in items, either
07:45 rangi only the bits that arent mapped go
07:45 rangi the marc is generated on the fly from the items table for the rest of it
07:45 eythian ah right, that's OK then
07:45 eythian I was concerned because I wasn't seeing it there.
07:46 rangi yeah its just the columns in there
07:47 rangi and then whatever is in more_subfields_xml
07:47 rangi for ones that arent mapped
07:47 eythian cool
07:47 eythian anyway, I'm going to leave an import running and head to the movies. All going well it'll be happy tomorrow morning (already looking promising in a quick test, not spewing errors everywhere)
07:48 rangi cool
07:49 rangi fredericd: pushed 6464
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07:57 jenkins_koha Starting build 287 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #287: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/287/
08:39 jenkins_koha f.demians: Bug 6464 Check inconsistent placeholders in translated strings
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10:05 druthb o/
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12:17 * oleonard is baffled by the Hugo Boss Ticino message to the list
12:18 oleonard How does someone get as far as installing Koha and not know that it's open source and there is no "technician" to call?
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12:32 gmcharlt @quote random
12:32 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010)
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12:56 oleonard If you tell Koha to renew a patron with a NULL expiration date  the results are unexpected.
12:58 oleonard In my test system the renewal period is 3 years. The renewal date I got for the NULL expiration date was 09/09/2019
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13:12 oleonard Happy belated birthday druthb!
13:13 druthb Thanks, Owen.  :D  I had a hot, sweaty, wonderful day off.  :)  Now to catch up...
13:19 mtj oleonard: yeah, the hugo-boss email is a new twist
13:20 Agent_Dani Ooh, happy belated birthday wishes from me, too, druthb!
13:21 mtj perhaps their knitwear dept needs to email their IT dept.
13:21 druthb Thanks, Agent_Dani. :)
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13:27 oleonard Does anyone know if Bug 6280 causes an error in the log?
13:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
13:38 hdl oleonard: Yes. it does
13:40 * oleonard put a comment on the bug with the error he's seeing
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13:58 gmcharlt druthb: happy birthday, belatedly!
14:03 druthb Thanks, gmcharlt.
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14:24 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6487] No error explanation if patron expiration date is missing <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6487>
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15:02 * Oak waves
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15:04 druthb Hi, Oak! :)
15:04 Oak hello druthb :)
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15:09 reiveune bye
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15:42 skushner hi ruth, bg,
15:46 druthb Hi, skushner! :D
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16:26 irc2go hii
16:26 irc2go good morning
16:27 Oak night
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16:27 irc2go jeje ok
16:27 irc2go can someone help?
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16:28 cait hi #koha
16:28 cait :)
16:28 oleonard You haven't asked a question yet irc2go
16:28 irc2go yes
16:28 irc2go i cant reserve :(
16:28 * cait puts a big bowl of icecream and lots of cookies on the virtual #koha table
16:30 irc2go i cant reserve in the Opac and Intranet
16:31 irc2go can someone help?
16:32 irc2go :(
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16:33 oleonard irc2go: What version are you using? Have you configured circulation rules?
16:34 irc2go 3.0200004
16:34 irc2go yes i do
16:34 irc2go but nothind
16:35 irc2go i have a bug, too many reserves
16:35 oleonard "too many reserves" is the error message?
16:35 irc2go yes
16:37 irc2go too many reserves "juan" has too reserves
16:40 irc2go juan is administrator, he can reserve 3 item...
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16:42 irc2go olenard?
16:44 irc2go hello?
16:44 oleonard Please wait irc2go
16:44 irc2go ok
16:44 irc2go thanks
16:46 oleonard irc2go: Do you have a circulation rule set up for patron category "all" and item type "all" ?
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16:48 irc2go yes i do
16:48 irc2go mmm wait
16:49 irc2go all?
16:49 wahanui somebody said all was quiet on the open source front
16:51 irc2go all = default?
16:52 oleonard Yes
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16:57 irc2go no, i not have this rules
16:57 irc2go default
16:57 irc2go patro
16:58 irc2go default item
16:58 irc2go default banch?
17:04 oleonard irc2go: I think you may have to have a rule set up for default branch, default patron, and default item type
17:06 irc2go and then the other?
17:08 oleonard Yes
17:09 irc2go it work
17:09 irc2go but in the opac nop
17:14 oleonard Same error message irc2go?
17:16 irc2go no
17:16 irc2go only i can reserve
17:17 irc2go I can not select a item
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17:18 * Oak waves again
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17:20 * druthb hands the Velcro to Oak.
17:20 * Oak googles Velcro
17:22 Oak o?  <-- me scratching head
17:22 irc2go olenard?
17:23 oleonard irc2go: You can place a hold but you can't place an item-level hold?
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17:28 Oak druthb, is it used for washing dishes?
17:29 druthb nope.  It's used for temporarily sticking things to one another.  put some of the "hook" fabric on your chair, and the "loop" fabric on your rear end, and maybe you'll stay in here better.  ;-)
17:30 Oak ah
17:30 Oak hehe
17:30 Oak well, electricity will be out in 24 minutes...
17:30 Oak :)
17:31 irc2go none
17:31 irc2go olenoard, none
17:31 Oak @wunder islamabad
17:31 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 33.0�C (10:00 PM PKT on June 09, 2011). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising).
17:33 oleonard irc2go: I'm not sure I understand you. If you can place a hold in the OPAC but not an item-level hold then the OPACItemHolds  preference is probably turned off
17:40 irc2go mmm wait
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17:42 cait bye all
17:42 Oak bye cait
17:42 Oak see you tomorrow
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17:44 Oak time to go. later.
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18:38 nengard anyone know where i find the non public note that is on the item records when searching the db?
18:38 nengard the 952 doesn't appear to be in biblioitems anymore
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19:14 rangi nengard: bug 5579
19:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
19:15 nengard yeah i knew that
19:15 nengard i just didn't know where stuff moved to :) I found it ... the non public note was moved to a funny place
19:15 rangi its the mapping
19:16 rangi so items table whereever its told to, or the xml field on the items table for no mapping
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19:31 rangi welp that proves I need coffee
19:32 rangi I've just been chatting in #obnam sure I was in #koha
19:32 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:32 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on June 10, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
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19:40 library_systems_guy is slef around?
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19:43 rangi seen slef?
19:43 wahanui slef was last seen on #koha 2 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: magnuse++ [Tue Jun  7 15:40:34 2011]
19:44 library_systems_guy thanks rangi...i didn't know the bot would do that
19:45 rangi no worries
19:45 rangi doesn't mean he isn't lurking
19:45 library_systems_guy heh
19:45 library_systems_guy I'm always lurking
19:45 Agent_Dani Ready to strike when you least expect, wait.
19:45 rangi but helps see if someone has been recently active
19:45 rangi heh
19:46 rangi schuster: I was thinking about u yesterday when talking with talljoy
19:46 library_systems_guy lol @ Agent_Dani's name
19:47 Agent_Dani :D
19:47 rangi ohh
19:47 rangi library_systems_guy++ #another patch
19:47 rangi did you see you are in the history file now
19:48 library_systems_guy thanks rangi...I hope i did better on my submission this time
19:48 library_systems_guy and i didn't
19:48 talljoy i never did find deep fried avocados
19:48 rangi and the about page in koha
19:48 * library_systems_guy squeels and goes to look
19:48 rangi (in 3.4.2 it will be, its in master now)
19:48 * library_systems_guy feels the love
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19:49 rangi schuster: you need to tell talljoy where in plano I ate a fried avocado :)
19:50 rangi nengard probably reviewed it
19:50 Agent_Dani Fried avocado sounds most interesting.
19:50 talljoy quite delicious too
19:50 rangi ill find a picture
19:50 rangi when I get off the bus
19:50 rangi its on flickr #kohacon09
19:51 rangi and heres my stop
19:51 rangi bbiab
19:51 Agent_Dani bai
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19:54 nengard rangi i don't remember a fried avacado
19:54 nengard so ... no review
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20:03 rangi back
20:03 rangi ok, looking for the photo
20:04 rangi los cucos
20:04 rangi[…]7/in/photostream/  <-- you took the photo nengard :-)
20:05 nengard my plano reviews:[…]&review_sort=time
20:05 nengard you cannot expect me to remember every meal i ate ... that's why i have yelp!! :)
20:05 nengard and i did a crap job at taking that picture
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20:07 rangi there it is
20:07 rangi[…]4CYxRSIMr3oJLI-1g
20:07 rangi talljoy: mission accomplished ;)
20:07 * talljoy scared of rangi's memory....
20:08 rangi i never remember anything
20:08 rangi just where to find things ;)
20:08 talljoy librarian at heart.
20:08 rangi[…]9/in/photostream/  <-- biblibre trying to understand the menu :)
20:09 rangi i just used my usual ordering technique, that sounsd like it will kill me, i'll have one of those
20:09 rangi[…]5/in/photostream/ <-- the best part of any conference is the dinners and the hallway track
20:10 rangi all the worlds problems get solved in those 2 places :)
20:10 talljoy :-)
20:10 talljoy social eating=world peace
20:11 rangi it really is about that simple
20:11 Agent_Dani Sounds like The South. ;)
20:11 rangi  <-- books and booze dont hurt too :)
20:12 rangi[…]4/in/photostream/ tis a very  cool bar
20:12 rangi so in summary
20:12 rangi go to kohacon
20:12 rangi you will love it :)
20:12 * Agent_Dani observed it when visiting the side of her family that is from AL, FL, and GA.
20:14 rangi Agent_Dani: where are you from? (my wife is from pittsburgh)
20:16 Agent_Dani I grew-up north of Scranton, PA, but now reside in Durham, NC.
20:17 talljoy Install question-->  I am attempting a Koha install on CentOS 5.5.  Has someone successfully done this?  I (and the IT guy) are struggling with this.  I would like to find a resource of assistance or advice about abandoning all hope and switching to Debian.
20:20 rangi ahh
20:21 rangi im sure its been done
20:21 rangi but not sure its been documented anywhere
20:21 talljoy my opinion is that if Debian is easiest and is free and CentOS is free and difficult.  Why  not just use Debian.
20:21 rangi :)
20:22 rangi debian we do have packages for, so is becoming easier all the time, and we do make an effort to make sure all dependencies are in debian
20:22 rangi i would *love* someone to make rpm packages too
20:22 rangi but I dont have that skillset
20:24 rangi for centos, i suspect you would have to install a lot of the perl modules from cpan
20:24 rangi and i think getting zebra going might be the trickiest bit
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20:33 talljoy sorry phone call..
20:33 talljoy i did install alot through CPAN
20:33 talljoy and I had a FAIL at zebra so far
20:34 rangi hmm lemme check something
20:34 talljoy It has come down to how much I want to invest in this endeavor when easier options exist and there is no pressing reason for using CentOS
20:35 rangi[…]/5.5/RPMS/x86_64/
20:35 rangi those any use?
20:35 talljoy I got that.
20:35 talljoy i had problems installing them
20:35 rangi ahh, you are running 64 bit?
20:35 talljoy i threw it back into the IT guy (we contract for IT support)
20:35 rangi fair enough
20:36 talljoy he set up a virtual server for me and I expect him to full his fair share.  ;-)
20:36 talljoy that's a good questions....not sure if it's 64 bit
20:37 talljoy While I wait for him, I'm going to go and work on my 'ancient laptop' with Debian and Koha running smoothly.
20:39 rangi :)
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20:46 schuster Sorry...  I was investigating... I must not have been with you that night - maybe Los Cucos there having fried avocados a mexican restaurant?
20:48 schuster Ah yes I read back and see you figured it out!  Ah yes those were the days...
20:52 rangi :)
20:52 rangi heya cait
20:53 cait hi rangi :)
20:53 cait had a crazy day
20:53 Agent_Dani You too? I'm sorry.
20:53 cait ah, crazy but good
20:54 Agent_Dani Oh, other sort of crazy than what I had.
20:54 cait oh
20:54 cait I am sorry
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21:12 pianohacker Buenas tardes
21:14 skushner Anybody install lenny anymore?
21:15 pianohacker Don't really think there's any reason to
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21:24 Space_Librarian morning #koha. TGIF! :)
21:25 pianohacker curse you international date line
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21:26 talljoy sigh
21:26 talljoy soon....
21:26 pianohacker hello, talljoy
21:26 pianohacker don't believe we've met
21:26 talljoy hi.
21:27 talljoy don't believe so.  pleased to meet you
21:28 pianohacker *internet handshake*
21:28 talljoy :-)
21:29 matts_away is now known as matts
21:30 talljoy I have a cataloging framework question....I have a client who is not keen on the 'tab' format of the cataloging frameworks.  She wants all the fields she uses to be on one tab.  I can do this in the marc_subfield_structure table successfully.  Am I causing problems with how Koha operates by doing so?  (I think no, but thought I should ask)
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21:33 pianohacker talljoy: No, I did the same thing for my old library. Just make sure that all of the item subfields stay on tab 10
21:34 talljoy you mean all the ones they don't want?  those stay on tab 10?
21:35 talljoy or put all the ones they want to use on tab 10?
21:36 pianohacker Sorry, let me explain
21:36 pianohacker It would probably be best to put everything on tab 0
21:36 talljoy yes.  that make sense.  thanks
21:37 pianohacker If you put the item subfields (MARC field 952) on tab 10, however, it breaks koha
21:37 talljoy noted.
21:37 pianohacker Sorry, if you move them _off_ of tab 10, it breaks koha
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21:38 talljoy forgot first. noted second.  ;-)
21:39 pianohacker good! My hands got a bit ahead of my brain there
21:51 rangi talljoy: pianohacker still holds the record for youngest person to get a patch into koha
21:52 talljoy really  now.  and at what age was that?
21:52 rangi pianohacker: 16 .. or 17?
21:52 pianohacker hrm
21:52 talljoy wow.  quite impressive.
21:53 talljoy i hesitate to mention what I was doing at 16
21:53 rangi he is very impressive :)
21:53 pianohacker I think 16
21:53 rangi 2008-07-10
21:53 wahanui 1991
21:53 pianohacker Thank you
21:53 talljoy my activities at 16 involved 5 1/4 diskettes.
21:53 ibeardslee rangi: the academy students were older?
21:53 rangi yeah
21:54 ibeardslee damn .. there were a couple of younger people there
21:54 rangi yeah the drupal group had them
21:54 ibeardslee but they seemed to have the attitude of 'perl wtf'
21:54 rangi they had a 15 year old
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21:54 pianohacker talljoy: Those things were a bit before my time, but kind of cool. The only floppy disks I ever dealt with were cheap, unreliable ones from when they were starting to die out
21:54 talljoy I still have the floppies.  I slice them, pull out the innards and use them to hold CDs and DVDs.
21:54 talljoy ah, nostalgia
21:55 pianohacker were they always so unreliable? I swear every other disk would randomly lose any date put on it
21:55 pianohacker *data
21:56 pianohacker (those do sound like really cool cd cases)
21:56 talljoy we were thrilled to have portable data!  data loss was acceptable
21:56 talljoy heh
21:56 pianohacker flash_drives++
21:56 talljoy talk about data loss...I used to color on my dad's punch cards when he was in graduate school.
21:56 pianohacker hahahaha
21:56 talljoy it took him a while to put his doctoral thesis back together
21:56 pianohacker "but dad, look, it comes with lines!"
21:57 talljoy and cool holes.
21:57 pianohacker oh, yeah
21:57 talljoy good times.
21:58 rangi heh
22:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 288 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6491 Added: id in opac-privacy around the privacy policy div container Testing... <[…]1dd8104c8bbb347c5>
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22:18 rangi hiya atz_
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22:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Remove a typo from serials-edit template <[…]434b1fa99d9ccaf0f>
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22:36 pianohacker hi atz_
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22:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6487 - No error explanation if patron expiration date is missing <[…]164f363f37e9a400c>
22:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #288: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/288/
22:54 jenkins_koha tdavis: Bug 6491 Added: id in opac-privacy around the privacy policy div container Testing: An ID should appear in the container for the privacy rules saying userprivacy
22:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6491 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, NEW , Add Div in privacy page
22:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 289 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6462 - Authority type is not displayed in OPAC <[…]b13d091fe918e8bbe> / Bug 6463 - Authorities browsing error when using auth. plugins <[…]4a089c4f733382db1>
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23:10 rangi hey bgallagher
23:12 bgallagher heya rangi
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23:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6433: exception handling <[…]17520206c86518d06> / BUG 6388 Broken pager images in <[…]fe97b9ff34e456f40> / Bug 6459 : Needless call to C4::Context->dbh in C4::Templates::themelanguage() <
23:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6492] Deleted biblios cause rebuild_zebra to fail <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6492>
23:32 eythian <-- someone port Koha to this
23:35 rangi pianohacker: have you seen this
23:35 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5724
23:35 huginn Bug 5724: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Sometimes deletes aren't processed correctly by rebuild zebra
23:36 rangi can you reconcile that and your one please
23:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #289: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/289/
23:36 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Remove a typo from serials-edit template
23:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6487 - No error explanation if patron expiration date is missing
23:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6487 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , No error explanation if patron expiration date is missing
23:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 290 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4002] Issues with borrowernumber set as NULL <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4002>
23:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6409: fix pagination of SQL report output when parameters are used <[…]7d20c4ef1d573d493>

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