IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-16

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03:22 jenkins_koha Starting build 46 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5734' into kcmaster" <[…]603e391826627cd8f>
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03:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #46: SUCCESS in 35 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/46/
03:58 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5734' into kcmaster"
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04:31 kmkale @quote random
04:31 huginn kmkale: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
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07:06 cait hi
07:31 rangi hi cait
07:34 cait hi rangi
07:35 cait more_than_4_hours_sleep++
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07:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3326: Work around Zebra's handling of & entities <[…]10c011c8775d9b3ee>
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07:50 AmitG heya all
07:52 jenkins_koha Starting build 47 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:53 rangi hiya AmitG
07:53 AmitG heya rangi
07:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3810: Ensure all calls to Mail::Sendmail handled consistently <[…]e80613c96f77e36f0> / Bug 3595 (partial): Items seen at checkin are not filling holds well <[…]862ca6bf6f33c08a9>
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07:53 AmitG rangi: chris
07:54 francharb hello #koha
07:54 AmitG heya francharb
07:59 hdl hi all
08:01 rangi hi hdl
08:01 magnuse kia ora #koha
08:02 rangi hdl:[…]5&hide_resolved=0
08:02 rangi nearly finished that one
08:04 hdl rangi++
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08:21 kf hi #koha
08:21 magnuse guten morgen kf
08:23 kf hi magnuse
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08:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #47: SUCCESS in 35 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/47/
08:28 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3326: Work around Zebra's handling of &amp; entities
08:28 jenkins_koha * Bug 3595 (partial): Items seen at checkin are not filling holds well
08:28 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 3810: Ensure all calls to Mail::Sendmail handled consistently
08:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
08:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3595 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Items seen at checkin should always go to 1st priority hold
08:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3810 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Calls to Mail::Sendmail should not fail silently
08:29 * kf loves watching koha improving and growing all the time
08:30 AmitG heya kf
08:31 kf hi AmitG :)
08:35 magnuse yeah, 3.4 looks like it's gonna be real strong - lots of small improvements all over the place
08:47 kmkale hi AmitG kf magnuse
08:47 AmitG hi kmkale
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08:48 magnuse hiya kmkale
08:54 kmkale 26 now
08:55 AmitG kmkale total registration for kohacon11
08:55 kmkale 26
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08:58 kf kmkale: all from India or from other coutnries too=
08:58 kf ?
08:58 kf ignore the typos...
08:58 magnuse at least one from norway ;-)
08:58 AmitG kf are you coming to kohacon 11
08:59 kmkale kf I am expecting one from germany pretty soon ;)
08:59 * kf hides
08:59 AmitG kf ?
08:59 wahanui kf is, like, the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day
08:59 kf not sure yet
09:00 kf I was in nz last year - not sure how things will work out htis year
09:00 AmitG ok
09:00 kmkale aah so she shoudn't  hide else our day will be darkned ;)
09:00 kmkale anyone know how to add indicators while converting data using marcedit?
09:05 kmkale when I add indicators in the given box while using its del;imited text translation wizard, the resulting mrk file does not show those indicators
09:05 kf @wunder Konstanz
09:05 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.5�C (10:10 AM CET on March 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady).
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09:07 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
09:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (9:50 AM CET on March 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
09:10 AmitG @wunder Dehradun
09:10 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 27.0�C (11:30 AM IST on March 16, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa.
09:11 kf India wins :)
09:12 AmitG kf; for what
09:12 AmitG ?
09:12 magnuse AmitG: temperature! ;-)
09:13 AmitG oh!
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10:40 kmkale_ hi druthb
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10:42 druthb hi, kmkale!  :)
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10:48 magnuse o/
10:48 druthb o/
10:48 druthb Hi, magnus!!
10:49 magnuse good morning druthb
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10:50 * druthb hands kmkale the Velcro.
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10:53 Ata hi all
10:53 kf lunch :)
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10:54 Ata all are on lunch?
10:54 Ata :)
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10:55 magnuse Ata: not quite...
10:56 Ata "......During an upgrade, a new database table is created called fundmapping that contains a record of how budgets were mapped."
10:56 Ata These lines are from release notes of 3.2.5 release
10:56 Ata but i could not find this table in the database
10:57 Ata fundmapping
10:57 Ata is it fieldmapping?
10:58 hdl Ata: no.
10:58 hdl I don't know this table
10:59 Ata it was also mentioned in release notes of 3.2.06
10:59 Ata but there is no such table at my installation
10:59 Ata I have just upgraded from 3.02.06 to 3.2.5
10:59 Ata Anyhow
10:59 Ata Thanks for resp
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11:14 kmkale we have one from Philippines
11:14 kmkale :)
11:27 magnuse yay! :-)
11:27 magnuse i'm assuming that is a registrant for kohacon... ;-)
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11:35 jcamins Good morning, #koha
11:41 kmkale hi jcamins
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11:51 jcamins For the logs: never, ever, *ever* use a non-LTS release of Ubuntu if you don't plan on updating your computer.
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12:20 * druthb waves to oleonard.
12:20 druthb were your ears burning yesterday bout 11:30 Eastern, oleonard?
12:21 oleonard If they were I would have attributed it to having to try for the 4th time to upgrade from Drupal 6 to Drupal 7
12:21 druthb heh.
12:22 druthb I was talking about the community in my training yesterday, and how our partner libraries are also major community participants.  Invited them to join in any time, even if just with ideas!
12:24 oleonard Good, I hope they take it to heart
12:25 druthb A couple of the younger folk may well join in some time.
12:25 druthb The more-senior ones...well, there's a couple, maybe.  One of them friended me last night on Facebook.  :)
12:26 druthb (that little Community Sermon is part of my stock training plan--about 20 minutes, I don't beat it to death, but it's something good to notch in right before or after lunch, when you don't wanna do anything bigger
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12:28 * kmkale takes note
12:28 kf yep it's a good thing
12:30 druthb kmkale:  Basically, I talk about global community, the development benefits of that, the new-feature process, and the IRC.  If I have networking (as I did in Chicago) I come in here and show them.  Then I send 'em to, to look for the mailing lists and IRC links there.
12:32 kf I will probably do a presentation for lis students soon... perhaps could try that too
12:33 druthb My big push is that most of us that are here do development or other things, and that we always need more on-the-ground librarians to tell us how things need to get better, and what they want.  So they may not *think* they have anything to offer, but they do, and it's huge.
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12:33 kmkale druthb: I do too. But the after or before lunch is a good idea :)
12:34 kmkale i go quite big on the whole sharing benefits everybody thing
12:35 druthb It's also good for right-before a break.  if you've just got a few minutes, can notch it in just about anywhere.
12:35 * druthb waves to schuster
12:36 jwagner Just updated my current head server and am now getting errors displaying a record that was fine yesterday:
12:36 jwagner :47: parser error : xmlParseEntityRef: no name
12:36 jwagner <subfield code="a">Plates 19, 21, 24 and 26 signed: I [y] O W., I. & O. W., \
12:37 jwagner There are a couple more, and all three seem to be pointing at ampersands in the field (all 500 fields)
12:37 jcamins Hm. Send me the record?
12:37 jwagner What's your email address?
12:39 jwagner on the way.  I'm nervous about all those ^ pointers to the ampersand...
12:40 oleonard If I used named virtual hosts in my VirtualBox guest OS, can I access them via my host OS?
12:40 jcamins It's strange, because I tested that patch a lot, and nengard tested it too.
12:40 jwagner jcamins, this is in OPAC -- staff display is OK for the same record
12:40 nengard what patch ... was eating breakfast :)
12:40 jcamins The ampersands one.
12:41 nengard hmmm
12:41 nengard i looked in the opac and the staff client
12:41 jcamins So did I.
12:41 nengard i didn't have a lot of records to test with though
12:41 nengard ... maybe that's it
12:42 jcamins I tested it with several dozen.
12:42 jcamins But not jwagner's, yet.
12:42 jwagner All three errors were pointing to three separate 500 fields in the record, all of which include & characters
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12:45 jwagner Further testing -- any search where there's an ampersand in the record is throwing errors before I can get to the results screen:  Here's one for a title Steinway & Sons:
12:45 jwagner :64: parser error : xmlParseEntityRef: no name
12:45 jwagner <subfield code="a">Steinway & Sons</subfield>
12:45 jwagner ^ at /home/k32/kohaclone/C4/ line 151
12:45 jcamins So why didn't it do that on mine?
12:45 jwagner Beats me....
12:46 jcamins Do you have XSLT enabled?
12:46 jcamins My change should only have affected XSLT.
12:46 jwagner Yes, and these were searching and displaying fine before I did a git pull this morning.
12:48 nengard is anyone else having a problem?
12:49 jcamins jwagner: are you able to see it in details view?
12:49 nengard okay - i'm getting a 500 error when i try to search too
12:50 nengard but i don't think it's the patch from jcamins
12:50 nengard cause when that was what i was testing i got results
12:50 jwagner I can't get to details view in OPAC -- the error comes at search
12:50 jwagner Let me try to fake it with the biblio number
12:50 nengard what else was pushed last night
12:50 jcamins There were a gazillion patches pushed last night.
12:51 jwagner Yes, if I bypass search and open OPAC to the biblionumber, it displays OK.  Seems to be OPAC searching/search results that has the problem.
12:52 nengard i did a search that had no links in the results and it worked
12:52 nengard and the search i tested with yesterday is throwing the 500 error
12:52 nengard so something pushed last night interferes with jcamins' patch
12:52 nengard or it's another patch altogether causing the problem
12:52 nengard cause like i said - we did a bunch of searching yesterday when testing with no problems
12:53 nengard so it's a combo of patches causing the problem
12:53 druthb Any of the others touch C4::XSLT stuff?  That'd be the first place I'd look.
12:53 nengard haven't read all of the commits yet
12:53 jwagner I see lots of changes including several to and MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl
12:54 nengard and i have to run to a webinar so i can't test any further right now
12:54 jcamins Hm.
12:54 jcamins Works for me.
12:54 jcamins That's annoying.
12:55 jcamins Latest patch, Bug3810?
12:57 nengard latest commit 4am est
12:57 jwagner jcamins, it works for you with the sample record I sent you?
12:57 jcamins Yes.
12:57 jcamins Wait, I have an idea.
12:57 jwagner And you did a git pull this morning?
12:57 jcamins I did right before testing.
12:57 jwagner Sigh.
12:57 nengard i'm rebuilding zebra
12:57 nengard to see if that does anything
12:58 jcamins I think it's because I have a lot of big records.
12:58 jcamins So I've been using -x.
12:58 jwagner -x on what?
12:58 jcamins rebuild_zebra.
12:58 nengard i do -b -r -v
12:58 jcamins Yeah.
12:59 jwagner My cron entries are -b -a -z
12:59 jcamins I have to do -b -r -x -v, or my server explodes.
12:59 nengard i'll try that
12:59 schuster Glad he got his system running yesterday before the patches showed up...  Now gets to play with pulling all of those patches!
12:59 nengard that might be the difference
12:59 jcamins So that's why I never had it break.
12:59 jcamins My system will be broken long before I get to a search.
12:59 schuster Glad someone else found the problems before he thought it was something wrong with his system.
12:59 nengard what does -x do?
13:00 jcamins It indexes in XML mode.
13:00 nengard hmmm
13:00 nengard yeah i'm thinking most libraries don't do that
13:00 nengard that's the trick
13:00 magnuse i'm seeing the same as you guys: this record:[…]pl?biblionumber=1 gives this error when searching:[…]
13:00 nengard rebuilt with the -x and it works now
13:00 nengard but we need it to work without the -x
13:01 jcamins Yeah.
13:01 nengard sorry i didn't test both ways yesterday
13:01 nengard should send a message asking rangi to pull that
13:01 jcamins Or I should fix it.
13:01 jwagner magnuse, if I send you the record I sent jcamins would you test it? What's your email?
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13:02 jcamins Okay, I have a fix.
13:02 magnuse jwagner: [off]
13:03 jwagner magnuse, thanks -- on the way.
13:03 magnuse note to self: that did not hide the e-mail from the logs (oh well, that adress is all over anyway)
13:04 jwagner I think you have to start the line with the off command
13:04 magnuse rebuilt with -x and then the search works
13:04 magnuse jwagner: yup, i think so too ;-)
13:06 nengard jcamins send me that fix in the next 5 min and i'll test before the webinar
13:07 nengard if not i'll test when i'm back
13:07 nengard after noon
13:07 jcamins Sent.
13:07 * jcamins realizes with a sinking sense of horror that he just broke his test environment.
13:08 jcamins I have learned something useful today: have a second test environment where not using -x won't break things.
13:08 jwagner Well, you weren't planning to get anything done today, were you :-)
13:09 * jwagner goes off to work on my project on an older system
13:10 jcamins jwagner: nengard will be sending the patch shortly, and then you can sign off on it, too.
13:10 jwagner You may have to walk me through that again, sigh
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13:10 jcamins It's easy.
13:11 nengard k test 1 works
13:11 nengard testing one more thing
13:11 nengard jwagner it's on the wiki :)
13:11 nengard steps for signing off
13:11 jwagner nengard, that's what he said last time.  Still needed hand-holding :-(
13:11 nengard then let us know what's not clear and we can update it - or you can :)
13:12 druthb Off to finish up training libraries on Koha administration, then journey home.  :)  See y'all soon, friends.
13:12 nengard signed off and sent to koha patches
13:12 nengard now to webinar
13:12 jcamins nengard++
13:12 nengard be back alter
13:12 nengard later
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13:13 magnuse jwagner: same error you had on that test record when running with -b -r -v ; no error when rebuilding with an added -x
13:14 jcamins jwagner: you just have to save that file, run `git am ${FILENAME}`, make sure things work, run `git format-patch -s -1`, then run `git send-email 0001-Bug-3326-previous-fix-broke​-searches-when-not-using-.patch` and follow the prompts.
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13:15 schuster copies jcamins note for future reference...  still learning git.
13:16 jcamins @later tell rangi Please push my fix for Bug 3326 as soon as you get a chance- it turns out that my fix breaks the search results screen when Zebra is not reindexed with -x.
13:16 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:17 jcamins It's really hard to get anything done when SSH disconnects me every few minutes.
13:20 jcamins jwagner: thanks for pointing that problem out.
13:20 jcamins As I said, I would *never* have found it.
13:21 jwagner Unfortunately ( or fortunatelY) I was working on a project with a record that found it right away :-(
13:21 jcamins Well, sign off on my patch, and you'll be able to resume work with no problem. :D
13:22 jwagner Well, that is being difficult.  First it kept telling me:
13:22 jwagner git am Bug-3326-previous-fix-broke-searches.patch
13:22 jwagner Applying Engard
13:22 jwagner fatal: corrupt patch at line 13
13:22 jwagner Patch failed at 0001.
13:22 jwagner Now the patch file seems to have vanished.  Trying again on a new branch.
13:23 oleonard git am -i -3 -u Bug-3326-previous-fix-broke-searches.patch
13:27 magnuse what's the best way of getting the patch from the mailinglist into a .patch file? copy and paste? other clever tricks?
13:27 jcamins magnuse: view original->Save
13:27 jwagner After much travail it seems to have applied, but I'm still getting the same error message
13:27 jcamins Really?
13:27 jcamins Hm.
13:27 jcamins So if you do a git log, it shows that patch?
13:28 jwagner Yes, first commit in line is Follow up for Bug 3326: previous fix broke searches when not using -x
13:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
13:28 magnuse jcamins: "view original" - where?
13:28 oleonard magnuse: It depends on your mail client
13:28 oleonard jcamins just means that you have to view the source of the message
13:29 magnuse jwagner: did you re-index?
13:29 jcamins Right.
13:29 jwagner Git show on that commit is showing a lot of extraneous stuff from the original message -- do I have to clean all that up?
13:29 jcamins What do you mean?
13:29 jcamins What kind of extraneous stuff?
13:29 jcamins It should be a one-line fix.
13:30 jwagner +From: on behalf of Nicole C.  En
13:30 jwagner +Sent:  Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:10 AM
13:30 jwagner +To:
13:30 jwagner +Cc:    Jared Camins-Esakov
13:30 jwagner +Subject:       [Koha-patches] [PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF] Follow up for Bug 3326: prev
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13:30 jcamins That doesn't seem right. Let me try applying the signed-off patch on Master.
13:30 jwagner Can you put the patch on the bugzilla report and I'll try from there? Saving from the email doesn't seem to work.
13:31 magnuse oleonard: ah thanks - "show original" in gmail. and do you save it with all the mail headers and everything?
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13:31 oleonard magnuse: Yes, git is smart enough to know what to do with it
13:31 magnuse oleonard: cool!
13:32 jcamins jwagner: yeah, it looks like the one on Bugzilla got corrupted.
13:32 jcamins I can't apply it either.
13:34 jcamins Okay, attached to bug 3326.
13:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
13:35 * jcamins steps away in search of breakfast.
13:39 jcamins jwagner: it works, then?
13:39 jcamins Yay!
13:40 jwagner jcamins, the one from bugzilla applied fine -- not sure if I sent it in the correct 'signed off' format
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13:41 jcamins It looked right.
13:42 jwagner jcamins, for the record, do you want to update the bugzilla entry with what the problem was that required a followup?  Always useful to have that where it can be searched/read later.
13:42 oleonard So what's the issue? -b -r -v causes problems with searching? Any search?
13:43 jcamins That's a good idea.
13:43 jcamins oleonard: my patch stripped out the extraneous ampersand entities that -b -x produced.
13:44 jcamins When -x wasn't used, there weren't any extraneous entities, so the needed entities were stripped out.
13:44 jcamins The problem is only when you have records including ampersands.
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13:47 oleonard So if I -b -r -v and then search for something which will bring up results including a title with & I should get an error?
13:47 jcamins Yes.
13:47 jcamins Unless you apply my follow-up patch.
13:59 * oleonard can't reproduce it, but my curiosity isn't getting my anywhere anyway
14:00 jcamins Heh. Looks like rangi will have his pick of sign-offs. :)
14:02 fcapo Found a bug : if you edit a biblio record that has utf-8 characters in its items (accented characters for example), those characters get encoded wrong when the record is saved
14:03 jcamins fcapo: if it isn't already in Bugzilla, you should report it there.
14:03 fcapo I was searching for it in bugzilla and found nothing. Just wanted to know if its a know bug before reporting
14:05 jcamins It doesn't ring any bells with me.
14:05 jcamins If someone recognizes it, they can mark it duplicate.
14:06 fcapo ok, reporting then, thanks
14:07 wizzyrea oleonard++ for the really nice implementation of search to hold
14:08 jcamins Ooh, Search to hold is back?
14:08 wizzyrea mhm :)
14:08 jcamins :D
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14:27 * chris_n misreads "search to hold" as "search on hold" and briefly associated it with "music on hold"
14:27 chris_n being able to search the stacks while on hold would be a nice feature :-)
14:31 wizzyrea we have the technology! it's called the internet!
14:33 jcamins Hm.
14:33 jcamins Asiago omelets are... slightly odd.
14:33 * oleonard thinks of all the doodles that will never be because we can internet while we're on hold
14:33 jcamins Tasty, but odd.
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14:38 oleonard fcapo: I can't reproduce Bug 5883
14:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5883 normal, P5, ---, fcapovilla, NEW, UTF-8 characters in items (952) get encoded wrong when the record is modified.
14:39 oleonard Oh wait, is it only in items?
14:40 oleonard Nope, still can't reproduce it.
14:41 wizzyrea my suspicion is that this maybe has to do with his parser?
14:41 wizzyrea or some other serverside config
14:41 wizzyrea (I could be totally wrong, I won't pretend to be an expert on such matters)
14:42 * jcamins reflects on favicons.
14:43 * oleonard invents a new spy novelist, John Le Ĉăŕŗę
14:43 wizzyrea lol
14:44 fcapo Well, I had a record with "méthode" in field 952$3 (An item had méthode in its $3 field). Then I modified the record, not the item.
14:44 jcamins oleonard: I love his novels! He's the only author I know of who makes the pronunciation of "Dvorak" seem obvious.
14:45 oleonard jcamins: I think you mean Dvořak ;)
14:45 fcapo I'll be investigating it when I have the time :/ got a lot of work to do today :S
14:45 jcamins oleonard: I don't know how to type haceks, but, yes.
14:45 * oleonard has been told he does a passable "Å™"
14:46 oleonard
14:47 magnuse i put some méthode and españa in item fields - it mostly looks ok, but not here, when you click on "view plain"[…]pl?biblionumber=1
14:47 oleonard I see that problem too magnuse
14:48 oleonard And not just in item fields
14:48 magnuse it looks ok in the copies table, but not in the actual marc display
14:48 * magnuse gotta run outside in the sun for a bit
14:48 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
14:49 oleonard Especially necessary where magnus lives
14:49 wizzyrea yes, and... well, probably getting better now, but only like 5 minutes a day to do it!
14:50 wizzyrea
14:51 magnus_away wizzyrea: in like 5 days we will have more run than y'll - spring equinox!
14:51 magnus_away s/run/sun/
14:51 wizzyrea oh right!
14:51 * wizzyrea was in sweden over midsummers... loved that
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14:52 wizzyrea never dark, everyone was happy
14:55 jcamins How does everyone do favicons with Koha?
14:55 wizzyrea use the default
14:56 oleonard Or fix Bug 5641?
14:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5641 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Replace Favicon From System Administration
14:56 jcamins oleonard: that's what I'm thinking about.
14:56 jcamins How to fix it.
14:56 wizzyrea the only way I can think of
14:57 wizzyrea short of allowing the upload of a file to the server through administration
14:57 wizzyrea is to allow a syspref to define a favicon location that is off of your server
14:57 wizzyrea and upload the new fav ther
14:57 wizzyrea e
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14:57 wizzyrea or
14:57 jcamins The problem is that then you have to hit the database everyone time someone wants to download the favicon.
14:58 wizzyrea if you want to go the route of allowing uploads
14:58 wizzyrea then it needs to be a folder that is only user data
14:58 oleonard jcamins: Aren't the system prefs loaded into memory?
14:58 wizzyrea and not ever ever touched by an upgrade
14:59 wizzyrea then you have a syspref
14:59 wizzyrea "use user defined favicon, or use icon from user directory"
14:59 wizzyrea er
14:59 wizzyrea use user defined, or default
15:00 wizzyrea folder/directory
15:01 jcamins oleonard: there would still have to be a script, anyway.
15:02 * jcamins doesn't like scripts
15:02 jcamins At least, not when we're using CGI.
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15:10 oleonard Is MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl aware of variables created by
15:11 jcamins oleonard: not really.
15:11 oleonard I see it does things like <xsl:variable name="URLLinkText" select="marc:sysprefs/marc:sy​spref[@name='URLLinkText']"/>
15:11 oleonard A syspref-specific connector of some kind?
15:12 jcamins oleonard: you can pass sysprefs through C4/
15:13 oleonard Here's what I'm looking at: My change to to show the count of pending holds didn't affect the XSLT view. I'd like to make them consistent if I can
15:14 jcamins Ah.
15:14 wizzyrea oh yes
15:14 jcamins That's going to be a bit tricky, I think.
15:14 wizzyrea oleonard: we love that display
15:15 wizzyrea we favor the xslt, but had a complatint, once someone saw the hold display, that it was more important than subtitles (!)
15:16 jcamins wizzyrea: you can add subtitles in normal display.
15:16 wizzyrea keyword -> marc mapping, right?
15:16 jcamins oleonard: let me ponder a bit.
15:16 jcamins wizzyrea: yup.
15:16 oleonard Oh, it looks like the template may be able to handle appending the data without messing up the formatting
15:16 * oleonard will tinker
15:16 jcamins Yay!
15:17 * oleonard should have looked there first
15:19 jcamins Where?
15:21 oleonard In the template. The problem had already been solved for the "lists that include this title" link
15:22 jcamins Does anyone know how to force relevance ranking in Koha?
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15:39 jcamins Does anyone use the Browse Authorities thing in the OPAC?
15:43 jcamins Don't all answer at once.
15:44 * wizzyrea does not
15:45 * oleonard does not
15:45 * oleonard would not on a boat
15:45 * wizzyrea would not on a moat
15:45 * oleonard would not with a goat (Har!)
15:46 * wizzyrea would not browse authorities, sam-I-am
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15:47 * jcamins wonders how hard it would be to fix the opac authorities browser.
15:47 wizzyrea oh he's all serious.
15:48 jcamins :)
15:48 eternalsw any way to restrict what fields are searched.  I have a barcode 0005454 that brings up a match from another book's LC number, which I don't want, especially since that one shows up first in the list.
15:48 nengard i've never used the browse authorities thing
15:48 jcamins eternalsw: you could search barcode:0005454
15:49 wizzyrea ^^ that works quite well
15:49 jcamins And y'all are very sensible. I am convinced that no patron ever finds it useful.
15:51 gmcharlt revamped, however ...
15:53 eternalsw any way to put barcode: in automatically when using a barcode scanner?  the idea of us using a barcode in the first place is to remove the need to type anything.
15:53 oleonard jcamins: Check the list archive for a conversation last year, "Does your library use OPAC authority searching?"
15:54 jcamins Looks like it predates my involvement on the list.
15:54 jcamins (probably why I don't remember it)
15:56 jcamins Interesting.
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16:08 schuster Authorities would be helpful to a point, but right now they are useless as I can't get the see/see also's to work in a useful way.  In Texas we tried to align some curriculum standards to authority records and it worked really well in Horizon.
16:08 schuster not so much in Koha as you can't click through to titles just back to the see references.
16:09 schuster Authority files was a reason for selecting Koha over other web based systems.  I didn't realize there really wasn't a way to Manage them at the time...
16:12 * jcamins is thinking about changing the OPAC browser so rather than using an= (which doesn't work much of the time), the searches use exact matching.
16:13 jcamins Or, rather, as close to exact matching as is possible with ,complete-field not working.
16:13 jcamins Optionally.
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16:19 cait hi all
16:20 jcamins Hello.
16:21 jcamins Is it possible to search indicators with Zebra?
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16:34 cait jcamins: no idea
16:35 cait what do you wnat to do? build a limit of some sort?
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16:37 gmcharlt jcamins: something like melm 245$a range(data,0,1) *might* work
16:37 gmcharlt can't swear to it, though
16:40 gmcharlt er, more like
16:41 gmcharlt melm 245 Title-ind1:w:range(data,0,1)
16:44 jcamins Yikes.
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16:56 * jcamins just learned a whole bunch about favicons.
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16:57 jcamins It was like falling through a rabbit hole and waking up in 1998.
17:01 jcamins It turns out it's much easier than I thought to change, because the favicon isn't stored at /favicon.ico
17:05 cait hm?
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17:57 rangi i think we need to go on a push of moving threads to koha-devel
17:57 cait ?
17:57 cait hi rangi
17:58 rangi the emails from peter and paul etc dont really belong on the main list
17:58 cait ah, now I understand
17:59 rangi so if we all try to answer any like that, and move them to the koha-devel list publicly, ie this would be better on koha-devel while ccing koha-devel hopefully it will help get the message out
17:59 rangi otherwise the koha lists will become too messy/scary for your average person
18:00 * rangi wil try to do that with any he spots from now on
18:04 rangi like that
18:05 rangi i could reply to chris_n too, but im hoping that thread is dead now
18:05 * chris_n had hoped so too
18:06 chris_n sorry, I missed the fact that they were on the koha list :-(
18:06 cait hi chris_n :)
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18:06 chris_n heya cait
18:06 cait did you have time to check if the resend patch works?
18:06 cait the fine on check-in thing
18:06 chris_n cait: om
18:07 * chris_n finds he is doing <ctl><shift>+ twice now in every terminal window :-P
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18:08 chris_n what a ride
18:09 jcamins How do I get the long of all changes since a branch diverged from Master?
18:10 jcamins *log
18:10 chris_n cait: it still does not apply to 3.2.x
18:11 chris_n :-(
18:11 cait grrr
18:11 cait why does it apply for me?
18:11 cait I double checked the log that I was on the right branch
18:11 cait can you show me the conflict?
18:11 jcamins Figured it out.
18:12 chris_n jcamins: git log --oneline commttish..HEAD in your branch where committish is the hash of the last common commit
18:12 jcamins git log origin/master..${LOCALBRANCH}, if anyone cares.
18:12 chris_n ops
18:12 chris_n that works too :)
18:12 chris_n git log --oneline tag..HEAD is nice too
18:16 pastebot0 "chris_n" at pasted "failed patch" (26 lines) at
18:16 chris_n cait: ^^
18:16 chris_n but that does not tell where the patch is failing
18:16 cait huh?
18:16 chris_n not sure how to do that as there are no merge conflict markers with a patch
18:16 cait hm?
18:17 cait why are there no merge markers?
18:17 cait ok, will rework it
18:17 cait I think it's too late for the next release now anyway
18:17 chris_n its not a merge or rebase
18:17 chris_n yes
18:18 chris_n but will be in the next
18:18 chris_n .7 that is
18:18 jcamins chris_n: but when I do git am, I get conflict markers.
18:18 chris_n hmm
18:19 chris_n I get none... with this patch at least
18:20 cait weird
18:20 cait I did a git am -i -3 and had conflict markers in the pl file
18:20 chris_n very strange too, because there appears to be no reason it should not merge ok
18:20 cait deleted them and after that it worked, git formatted patch... etc.
18:23 cait :(
18:23 chris_n cait: for what it is worth, I just tried to apply it to another clone of the main repo and received the same rejection
18:23 cait I did a fresh branch every time I tried
18:23 chris_n still without markers :(
18:24 chris_n weirdness indeed
18:24 cait rangi: any idea perhaps?
18:24 chris_n I have to run, but if push comes to shove, I'll just make the changes on a local branch and push them from there
18:25 cait push comes to shove?
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18:27 chris_n ahh
18:27 chris_n if we cannot get it to work
18:27 chris_n shove == a very hard push
18:27 chris_n so a play on words in english... sorry ;-)
18:28 cait it's ok :) learning a lot here :)
18:29 chris_n bbl
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19:12 schuster Sorry for this question but there is koha-devel and is there another "Koha" list?  Seems like there was a Koha-discuss at one time but it isn't linked to the koha-community anywhere.
19:13 oleonard mailing list?
19:13 oleonard Shoot, I thought the bot had that one.
19:13 oleonard[…]ha-mailing-lists/
19:13 oleonard "Join the mailing list"
19:14 cait mailing lists
19:14 wahanui mailing lists is better imho
19:14 jcamins the mailing list?
19:14 cait forget maling lists
19:14 gmcharlt schuster: there was no such thing as a mailing list called koha-discuss to my knowledge
19:14 gmcharlt there's just the main Koha mailing list
19:14 gmcharlt some archives of it say "Koha - Discuss" (e.g., http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ss-f3047918.html)
19:14 jcamins schuster: that's the koha mailing list. That's what Nabble calls it.
19:15 gmcharlt but that's just an artifact of those archives
19:15 jcamins How do I add a robots.txt to Koha installed via packages?
19:18 schuster OK so Koha-devel is the "Koha" list right?  just checking...  I know about koha-patches but that's not a "discussion" list IMHO.
19:19 jcamins schuster: no, there's koha-devel, koha, and koha-patches.
19:19 magnuse schuster: this is the general koha list:
19:19 oleonard ...and koha-bugs, and koha-commits...
19:20 jcamins Oh, yeah, them too.
19:20 magnuse and then there are all the others: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/mailman/listinfo
19:20 oleonard ...and my personal favorite, koha-win32
19:20 cait there is a german list too :)
19:20 cait with a name I can't remember
19:21 cait Koha-i18n-german
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19:21 jcamins koha-deutsch?
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19:22 cait jcamins: I think it was started for translation issues, very low traffic
19:22 schuster hmmm...  Missed the "Koha" list that's probably why I miss some of the discussion you all talk about!
19:24 schuster magnuse - wizzyrea - I don't see that one listed though on or I should say it isn't obvious to me from that page lists.koha-...
19:28 cait schuster: the koha list is not hosted by biblibre
19:28 cait I think it's hosted by katipo
19:28 nengard don't forget koha-docs
19:28 nengard not than many use it ....
19:28 nengard hint hint :)
19:28 cait hehe
19:29 rangi[…]ha-mailing-lists/
19:29 nengard hmmm that page doesn't list docs .... but this one does: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/mailman/listinfo
19:29 nengard :)
19:30 nengard off to edit the website :)
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19:32 nengard there - updated
19:34 magnuse hm, that combined link/heading called "Join the mailing list." doesn't really work for me - i see it more as a heading with a slightly strange colour than as a link...
19:37 nengard yeah - i missed it a few times as well
19:37 nengard got a better idea?
19:39 magnuse have a heading called e.g. "general list" that looks the same as "Specialised Lists" and then "Join the mailing list." as a normal link below that?
19:40 nengard we can do that
19:40 nengard hang on a sec
19:41 nengard how's that?
19:43 magnuse yeah, that looks much clearer to me
19:44 nengard :)
19:44 nengard k - time to give a demo
19:44 nengard ttyl
19:45 schuster I just realized that the "Join the mailing list" was a hot link...
19:45 magnuse thanks, nengard
19:45 nengard no prob!
19:45 schuster Ah much better!  Thanks!
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19:48 schuster Is there a reason to not use mysql views with Koha?  I'm thinking of something for the opac...
19:49 jcamins schuster: all the table names are hardcoded in.
19:50 cait is there a situation where a view would be needed?
19:56 rangi and yes, dont use mysql dependent stuff, if you want it to go in koha
19:56 rangi we are trying to move away from dependence not add more :)
19:56 magnuse db_independence++
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19:59 rangi jcamins: will push that patch for you in a sec
19:59 schuster I was looking at Owens new items book jacket display and thinking..
19:59 jcamins rangi: thanks!
20:00 rangi schuster: seen this one?
20:00 wahanui I haven't seen 'this', rangi
20:00 rangi doesnt use a new table
20:01 schuster I have not seen it either...  Something you wipped up?
20:02 cait forget this
20:02 wahanui cait: I forgot this
20:03 rangi yeah just some selects that write output to a .html file, which then we include with some jquery in sysprefs
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20:05 schuster rangi says casually...  so is this written up someplace how to or???
20:05 rangi yes
20:05 schuster schuster says sorry... so is this written up someplace...
20:06 rangi[…]ly-acquired-books
20:06 schuster As always a font of knowledge...
20:06 magnuse rangi++
20:06 rangi[…]ks/commits/master
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20:07 rangi alen kovich did the hard work i just tidied it up
20:07 schuster hmmm but you have to use the acq module...
20:07 rangi you could change it to just use dateaccessioned on items if you wanted
20:10 schuster Ok thanks may have to play with this...  I'd love to be able to build it so with the multi-branch it would automatically pull just for that branch...  but I think that may be further down the road.
20:10 schuster but gives me someplace new to start!
20:10 schuster Thanks again.
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20:22 rangi even hdl
20:22 hdl hi rangi
20:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3326' into kcmaster <[…]e4e0bbc71916b11ad> / Follow up for Bug 3326: previous fix broke searches when <[…]8bb3e2cc3e2b30030>
20:22 rangi hmm i had it down to 6 patches last night before i went to bed, back up to 12 to push now
20:23 rangi make that 13
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20:24 hdl tough thing that sun never goes down on koha developers ;)
20:24 * rangi goes back to making more that need to be signed off, ill try and do some more pushing later
20:24 cait :)
20:28 rangi ok people
20:28 rangi[…]5f59ad4d03e7353e8
20:28 rangi in bugzilla
20:28 rangi what component do you reckon i should put xslt changes under?
20:28 jcamins Staff client, in that case.
20:28 jcamins 'Cause it's not really MARC support.
20:28 rangi yeah
20:28 rangi and opac in other cases?
20:28 rangi (xslt for opac)
20:28 jcamins Yeah, probably.
20:28 rangi cool that works
20:28 jcamins I would put MARC standard display issues under MARC Bibliographic Support, though.
20:30 magnuse g'night #koha
20:30 cait night magnus
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20:54 schuster night all!!  off to spend time with the family  Maybe a little koha later!  I was able to get my test environment up and running yesterday thanks to everyone!
20:56 rangi cool
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21:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #48: SUCCESS in 35 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/48/
21:13 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Follow up for Bug 3326: previous fix broke searches when
21:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
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23:22 jenkins_koha Starting build 49 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5863: Add to Your Cart disappeared if login disabled on opac detail <[…]ede184d9fe37cdf26>
23:41 NateC ok thats it for me for today, see you all tomorrow!
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23:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5485: Add script to run Test::Perl::Critic <[…]22b35db1ed3c3dd54> / Bug 5816: XSLT doesn't display enhanced contents <[…]bd52581876a02b7d2>
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23:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #49: SUCCESS in 35 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/49/
23:58 jenkins_koha Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5863: Add to Your Cart disappeared if login disabled on opac detail
23:58 druthb happy now(), #koha.
23:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5863 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Add to Your Cart disappeared if login disabled on opac detail
23:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 50 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)

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