IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-13

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00:43 rangi @later tell chris_n bug 5595 is causing the tests to fail for
00:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
00:43 rangi @later tell jcamins thanks
00:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
01:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3013' into kcmaster <[…]d0603b9d87a062d9b> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_3013 <[…]52d59d47dc196062c> / Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types <
01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build 34 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 1 h ago)
01:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Adding release dates and 2 new developers <[…]bc32fee44c58f7c78>
01:23 rangi can anyone remember the url of perldoc gmcharlt was making automatically?
01:23 rangi ahh perldoc
01:23 rangi duh
01:23 rangi
01:37 rangi http://microblog.joshsternberg[…]the-march-11-2011
01:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #34: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/34/
01:41 jenkins_koha Salvador Zaragoza Rubio: Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
01:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
01:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 35 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago)
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01:45 rangi hi JM_
01:46 JM_ Hi rangi
01:49 rangi hows the weeking going?
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02:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/35/
02:15 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Adding release dates and 2 new developers
02:15 jenkins_koha Starting build 36 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago)
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02:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping the database version <[…]2f2b90c1d9d812c84> / Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link <[…]8740207c02e75818a> / Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields <[…]bc293c3aaffd93cf0
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02:17 druthb Good evening.
02:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/36/
02:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields
02:48 jenkins_koha * Jane Wagner: Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link
02:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5810 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Subject tracings should search complete subfields
02:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping the database version
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06:01 kmkale Namaskar #koha
06:04 pastebot "kmkale" at pasted "Problems with koha-devel list server?" (15 lines) at
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06:49 rangi @later tell kmkale if you look at your post again, you should spot the problem right away (wrong address)
06:49 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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07:10 rangi hmm i should not have pushed 5595
07:10 rangi guess i better fix it
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07:13 kmkale hiya rangi
07:13 kmkale hi druthb
07:13 druthb hi, kmkale! :)
07:15 kmkale rangi: my bad. where did that address come from I wonder. Thought I had deleted it from address book long ago :(
07:18 rangi hi druthb
07:21 druthb hi, rangi! :)
07:24 * druthb is enjoying an overnight train ride to Florida.  I'm somewhere in South  Carolina now, I think...and it's dark as the inside of a pile of coal outside my window.
07:26 rangi heh, id imagine so
07:28 druthb A conductor just passed through, waking folks up for the stop that's about 20 minutes away, which puts us on the money for time.  With the Amtrak system's normally-dismal on-time rating, I'm feeling pretty lucky.  :)
07:28 rangi :)
07:29 druthb hey, rangi:  now that it has signoff, any chance at getting that malformed-JSON patch pushed thru?
07:29 kmkale I am enjoying a rare quite sunday with my wife and son away on his first trek
07:30 druthb sounds nice, kmkale!
07:30 kmkale :)
07:31 rangi i updated the bug
07:31 rangi i want someone to confirm it works with 1.4.4, since owen couldnt recreate the bug on 1.4.4
07:31 rangi i dont want the fix for 1.4.3 to break 1.4.4 since 1.4.4 is where we are trying to get to
07:32 * druthb nods.
07:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5595' into kcmaster <[…]0ea1f619b75f545c0> / Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or <[…]7fbfecd59e6f06989>
07:38 rangi hopefully that brings jenkins back to stable
07:38 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now
07:38 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now
07:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 37 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 7 h ago)
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08:04 rangi !jenkins status
08:04 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
08:04 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 4 (10 h ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/4/
08:04 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 26 mn and counting): last build: 36 (5 h 49 mn ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/36/
08:08 rangi !jenkins help
08:08 jenkins_koha Available commands:
08:08 jenkins_koha abort <job> - specify which job to abort
08:08 jenkins_koha alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases
08:08 jenkins_koha botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom
08:08 jenkins_koha build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period
08:08 jenkins_koha comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build
08:08 jenkins_koha h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha q - show the state of the build queue
08:08 jenkins_koha queue - show the state of the build queue
08:08 jenkins_koha s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period
08:08 jenkins_koha status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
08:08 jenkins_koha userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user
08:09 rangi !jenkins q
08:09 jenkins_koha Build queue:
08:09 jenkins_koha - Koha_master: Le build #37 est déjà en cours  (fin prévue à: 2 mn 31 s)
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08:10 rangi !jenkins userstat rangi
08:10 jenkins_koha Don't know a user named rangi
08:11 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
08:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #37: FIXED in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/37/
08:11 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or
08:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes
08:11 jenkins_koha Starting build 38 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
08:11 rangi !jenkins userstat ranginui
08:11 jenkins_koha ranginui:
08:11 jenkins_koha Full name: Chris Cormack
08:11 jenkins_koha E-mail:
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08:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #38: ABORTED in 4 mn 24 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/38/
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08:21 rangi train still on time?
08:22 druthb so far.  We should be somewhere in Georgia by now...
08:34 rangi @later tell chris_n you will want to pull the latest commit for 5595
08:34 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:36 rangi want a giggle?
08:37 rangi
08:37 druthb always.
08:38 rangi and that is why i love nz
08:39 druthb awwww!
08:39 druthb what a cute story!
08:42 druthb I've got a little patch for Bug 5857, just gotta get Ian or Nicole to take a quick lookie at it.  Should be an easy one to sign off
08:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5857 enhancement, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, really needs a "quiet" mode.
08:43 rangi cool
08:45 druthb I'm somewhat leery of sending cron outputs to /dev/null explicitly--if it has troubles, I'd really like to know about it.
08:45 rangi yep
08:45 rangi quiet should be default for any cron job
08:46 druthb mhm.
08:46 rangi you should have to turn on verbose
08:46 liw arguably any errors should be written to stderr and exit code should be non-zero; if this is true, then redirecting stdout to /dev/null is ok
08:47 rangi what he said :)
08:47 rangi heya liw :)
08:47 liw unfortunately, when there's an error, you might want to see the stdout output as well
08:48 druthb There's always that trust gap for me, between "should be" and "is."  Unless I've eyeballed the code personally, I don't trust them to be equivalent.  Paranoid, a little, maye.
08:48 druthb s/maye/maybe/
08:48 druthb hi, liw!  )
08:48 druthb :)
08:49 liw has a tool called chronic that captures output and if there's an error, spews it out, which may be andy
08:49 liw also, may be handy
08:49 liw hi everyone :)
08:49 rangi is there anything that joey does that isnt useful .. i think not :)
08:53 liw indeed :)
09:07 rangi hmm we dont have an index on the done column in zebraqueue?
09:09 rangi just a compound key
09:10 * rangi will investigate that more
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09:17 druthb This should be Kingstree SC, which would put us about 15 minutes off-sked.  Not bad, over a ten-hour run, so far.
09:18 rangi yep, thats not too bad
09:20 druthb Charleston and Yemassee SC, then Savannah and Jessup GA, and then Jacksonville.  If we can keep this tempo, we'll get there about...11 AM, more or less, about 35 or so minutes off-sked.
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09:26 druthb @later tell cait the one day you're not here early in the morning, and I'm here..  :P   See ya soon.
09:26 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded.
09:27 druthb I'm gonna buzz off and take a snooze, maybe.  see ya soon.
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09:31 cait morning #koha
09:32 rangi heh
09:32 rangi you just missed ruth
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09:35 cait I know :(
09:35 cait she left me a message with huginn
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11:44 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
11:44 jcamins Good morning, #koha
11:47 cait hi jcamins
11:47 cait do you have experience with the koha-common packages?
11:48 jcamins Not really, no.
11:48 jcamins Why?
11:48 cait i am stuck
11:48 cait it seems I am missing the mysql configuration file
11:48 jcamins Hm. That doesn't make sense.
11:48 cait hm?
11:49 jcamins It seems to me that the configuration file should be included.
11:49 cait ah yes
11:49 cait did you get your subjects question solved?
11:50 jcamins Yes.
11:50 jcamins Well, kind of.
11:55 cait seems I am making some progress here
11:55 jcamins Yay!
12:04 cait hm
12:04 cait seems it ran
12:04 cait but I have problems getting access to it
12:06 jcamins The password is random.
12:12 cait hm no the url
12:12 cait and finding out where the files are
12:12 cait hmpf
12:13 jcamins Oh.
12:14 jcamins I don't know about that.
12:15 jcamins Where are patron messaging preferences stored?
12:16 cait that's difficult
12:16 cait the table structure is a bit insane
12:16 cait it's at least 3 tables I think
12:16 jcamins !!
12:16 jcamins :(
12:16 cait I have no working koha on this laptop - so can't look it up for you now :(
12:16 cait that's why I am working with the packages, trying to set one up again
12:17 cait look for borrower and message
12:17 cait and transport
12:17 cait someone was really serious about the relastional database model there
12:17 cait :)
12:17 jcamins Well, relational is good.
12:17 jcamins :)
12:18 jcamins Sometimes.
12:18 cait sometimes
12:19 cait would you perhaps be able to sign-off on a translation problem I have in this area?
12:19 cait at the moment if someone installs koha with german sample file the messaging will be broken :(
12:19 jcamins Perhaps.
12:19 wahanui perhaps is the version of koha
12:19 jcamins wahanui: forget perhaps
12:19 wahanui jcamins: I forgot perhaps
12:19 cait I know how to repair that in our installations, but it should not remain like that
12:20 jcamins Will I be able to tell if your fix works?
12:20 cait i think the problem is that most people have not setup email on their dev installaitons
12:20 * jcamins hasn't either.
12:20 cait bug 5646
12:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5646 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, translated message names on sql level break messaging
12:21 cait ok
12:21 cait no problem :)
12:21 cait your question only made me think about it
12:22 jcamins Wow. That's quite a long word.
12:22 jcamins "Fälligkeitsbenachrichtigung"
12:22 cait hehe
12:22 cait yeah
12:22 cait but it's the right nam
12:22 cait e
12:22 cait benachrichtigung is the message, fälligkeit means due
12:23 jcamins I believe you. It's just very long. :)
12:23 cait I even wrote a patch to make the field longer... only to find out it breaks everything
12:23 cait he code relies on it to be Item DUE
12:30 cait grr
12:30 cait and robin is asleep of course
12:38 cait hm found the web installer
12:38 cait but it's really slow
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14:02 jcamins My cat is having a wonderful time playing with all the new toys my wife got him. Including the *very loud* jingly ball.
14:03 cait hehe
14:04 cait I am still fighting with the packages
14:06 jcamins :(
14:07 cait it's ok
14:07 cait if something goes smoothly you don't learn much doing it
14:07 cait right?
14:07 cait but I am about to give up and make a normal installation
14:07 cait and delay the packages for later, so I can work on some patches
14:10 cait found more instructions :)
14:18 jcamins Right.
14:18 cait *sighs*
14:18 cait ok, giving up
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14:31 jcamins @marc 588
14:31 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 588
14:32 jcamins @marc 751
14:32 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 751
14:32 jcamins @help marc
14:32 huginn jcamins: (marc look up field or field/subfield combo in MARC docs) -- eg. @marc 245 or @marc 245 a
14:32 cait @marc 001
14:32 huginn cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
14:34 cait jcamins: seems you pick the wrong fields :)
14:34 jcamins cait: yeah, those are two that are missing from Koha.
14:34 jcamins @marc 542
14:34 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 542
14:39 jcamins We're missing so many tags. :(
14:47 cait koha or huginn?
14:47 jcamins Koha.
14:47 jcamins 542, 545, 588, 751.
14:47 jcamins All the RDA tags.
14:47 cait that was to be expected
14:48 jcamins Yes, but it's still sad.
14:49 cait yeah, but nothing will happen from being sad :)
14:49 jcamins Alas, I have observed that.
14:51 cait we need a time machine... to have more time on all those things
14:51 jcamins Yes.
14:53 jcamins Okay, looks like we're accurate at least up to 2006.
14:53 jcamins Only up to 2006.
14:57 cait yep
14:57 cait is this about the time the files were created?
14:58 jcamins Probably.
15:00 jcamins Bug 5858
15:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags
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15:07 cait it misses the fields we got in too
15:08 cait I have added some, like the $w
15:08 jcamins Yeah, as I said, that bug was just for fields.
15:08 jcamins I guess I could note subfields as well.
15:08 cait hm right
15:08 cait are you going to add those?
15:08 jcamins Should I?
15:08 cait unfair question :)
15:09 cait I was wondering if we add the missing fields and subfields - only for new installatons?
15:09 jcamins Yeah.
15:09 cait probably the only save way to do it
15:09 jcamins Exactly.
15:09 cait have a list perhaps about newly added fields in the release notes would be good
15:10 jcamins Okay, I'll add subfields.
15:10 cait I want to help with that - but not sure how
15:10 cait and need a working koha first...
15:11 jcamins I'm not adding them right now. Just making the list.
15:11 jcamins Because I keep on getting questions, and I can never remember if Koha has a given field or not.
15:14 cait ah
15:14 cait ok
15:16 cait git clone...
15:17 jcamins Did you add $w to everything that allows $w?
15:17 jcamins Not to 8xx, it looks like.
15:18 jcamins No, you did.
15:18 jcamins Never mind.
15:19 cait I hope I got them all
15:19 cait i think the 7xx already had those, only added the 8xx
15:21 jcamins Is that sufficiently horrifying for you?
15:21 jcamins :)
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15:22 jcamins 82 missing subfields, 16 missing fields.
15:23 cait how did you find out so fast?
15:23 hdl there is a script for that iirc.
15:23 hdl which compares an iso2709 file with a given framework
15:24 jcamins cait: I went through the lists of changes.
15:25 cait ok
15:25 hdl I think i answered too quick sorry
15:25 hdl back to week end.
15:27 cait hdl: enjoy your sunday :)
15:31 jcamins Hm. I wonder how Evergreen does MARC21 support.
15:34 cait hm no idea
15:39 jcamins Evergreen is up to Update 11.
15:40 jcamins Ah, and this is the whole problem with the "or later" bit.
15:40 jcamins Evergreen isn't.
15:42 jcamins Or maybe it is.
15:42 jcamins I don't know.
15:44 jcamins No, it does say "or (at your option) any later version."
15:44 jcamins Definitely. I can read.
15:45 cait ?
15:46 cait can't follow
15:46 jcamins That's probably a good thing.
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15:46 jcamins If you did, it would probably mean you were either A) too sick to think straight, B) too tired to think straight, or C) incapable of thinking straight. ;)
15:47 cait hm that's not good
15:47 cait which category do you see yourself in?
15:47 jcamins A? Yeah, A definitely sounds nicest. :)
15:48 cait hm, I am for D)
15:48 jcamins What's D?
15:48 cait the one where you are a clever guy thinking loud about a complicated topic
15:50 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt Is there a reason why we could not convert Evergreen's marcedit-tooltips.xml into SQL suitable for use with Koha and include that? After a great deal of confusion on my part, I've come to the conclusion that Evergreen seems to have the "or later" clause in its GPL 2 license.
15:50 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
15:51 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt I notice that you're the one who made the changes to Evergreen. If there's someone else I should be asking, let me know...
15:51 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
15:51 jcamins I hope huggin can handle multiple messages from one person to one other person.
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15:52 mib_pqg8o2 @later tell jcamins This is the first message.
15:52 huginn mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded.
15:52 mib_pqg8o2 @later tell jcamins This is the second message.
15:52 huginn mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded.
15:53 jcamins Okay, I'm done testing now. It's safe to come out. :)
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15:57 cait hi magnuse
15:57 magnuse hiya cait
15:59 jcamins Shouldn't Koha be able to convert records from MARC8 to UTF-8 on import?
16:00 cait hm, yes?
16:01 jcamins Does it?
16:02 * jcamins doesn't know where to find a good MARC8 record with non-Roman scripts.
16:04 magnuse jcamins: has an option -s "Skip automatic conversion of MARC-8 to UTF-8. This option is provided for debugging." but i havn't actually checked what it does... http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html
16:04 cait jcamins: is non-roman with marc-8 even possible?
16:05 jcamins cait: yep.
16:05 jcamins It's... not nice.
16:06 jcamins It looks a lot like this:$1!L$'8t'8t! 4(B
16:06 magnuse ouch
16:06 jcamins Bingo! Cornell has it.
16:07 jcamins Yikes! That looks even worse.
16:07 jcamins 导演: 田壮壮
16:11 cait it looks a bit... ugly
16:12 jcamins That's very diplomatic of you. :)
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16:13 * jcamins curses catalogs that won't let you download the MARC.
16:20 magnuse yeah, libraries are meant to be sharing stuff, aren't they?
16:23 cait curses mysql authentication error
16:24 * jcamins stops and stares in shock.
16:25 jcamins Somewhere down the line, someone got confused and the "Character encoding" option in staging MARC records really *is* supposed to be the encoding.
16:26 cait huh?
16:26 jcamins You have the option to choose "MARC21" or "UNIMARC" for "character encoding" when importing records.
16:26 cait yes
16:26 jcamins I assumed the label was wrong, but now I thinking the choices are wrong.
16:27 cait I don't think there is a way to do a conversion from marc21 to unimarc
16:27 cait I never touched the pull down and wondered why it's there
16:28 jcamins No, there certainly isn't.
16:28 jcamins But it should say "UTF-8" "MARC8" "ISO5469" etc.
16:31 jcamins Woo-hoo! That worked!
16:32 jcamins (hard-coding the encoding)
16:32 cait woohoo
16:32 cait so... can you come over now and solve my database problem? ;)
16:33 jcamins I've only identified my encoding problem, not actually fixed it. ;)
16:33 jcamins What's wrong?
16:33 cait having problems to access the database
16:33 cait not sure why
16:33 cait will figure it out though
16:39 cait *sighs* now I have made things worse
16:40 jcamins What's happened?
16:44 magnuse good luck, cait
16:44 cait ingore me, talking to myself
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17:01 cait I think I found my mistake
17:03 jcamins Oh? What is it?
17:03 cait typo...
17:04 jcamins That'll do it. :)
17:04 cait frustrating
17:05 cait and the koha on the other laptop is frustrating slow, had hoped for better results here
17:05 jcamins Yeah, but now it's fixed.
17:05 cait but no
17:05 cait it's slow too
17:07 jcamins Hm.
17:07 jcamins If you check out an older version, say, 3.2.2, will it be faster?
17:08 cait will try
17:08 cait there is an sql error in sysprefs:
17:08 cait about the new log
17:09 jcamins That's okay.
17:09 cait yeah, only mentioning it
17:10 cait loading a page - no matter which - takes a few secons
17:10 cait checking out 3.2.x
17:11 * jcamins considers adding a prefix param to subfieldSelect.
17:12 cait ?
17:12 cait and no change
17:12 cait perhaps i will just have to live with that slowness
17:13 cait but my dev install at work is not that slow :(
17:13 * jcamins has added a prefix param to subfieldSelect.
17:13 * cait offers jcamins a cookie for a comment
17:13 jcamins No, this won't work.
17:13 jcamins Argh!
17:14 jcamins The best-laid plans of mice and men.
17:14 cait everything will be alright
17:14 * cait gives you the cookie
17:14 jcamins I know, this just requires some creativity.
17:21 cait any idea how to make my koha faster?
17:21 jcamins I don't know why it would've started being slower. :(
17:21 cait me neither
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17:37 cait hm
17:38 cait I changed some of the mysql settings... not it seems reasonable fast
17:38 * cait puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
17:49 bg heya cait
17:49 cait hi bg
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18:03 jcamins Argh! This thing is messing with my mind.
18:03 jcamins I just spent all this time debugging something that apparently worked fine.
18:03 jcamins Well, I spent a minute on it, anyway.
18:08 jcamins No, just kidding.
18:08 jcamins It doesn't work. However, only in very limited circumstances.
18:09 jcamins Alas, hdl isn't here anymore.
18:17 jcamins Yay! I figured out how to force Zebra's tokenizer to do what I want.
18:19 cait :)
18:20 jcamins Well, *that's* weird.
18:21 jcamins My data does not contain a single example of the subject heading I'm searching for.
18:21 jcamins However, this search -- seemingly completely by coincidence -- is returning only the results I would want anyway.
18:21 cait hm
18:22 cait this patch chris_n said does not apply cleanly to 3.2.x applies for me...
18:22 jcamins Wait a minute.
18:22 jcamins The data is here.
18:23 jcamins It's just not displaying.
18:23 jcamins I'm confused.
18:23 cait me too
18:33 jcamins @marc 650 p
18:33 huginn jcamins: unknown field/subfield combination (650/p)
18:52 * jcamins is no longer confused.
18:52 jcamins The root problem is a confusion between 630 and 650.
18:53 cait me neither - patch sent
18:53 jcamins @marc 630 p
18:53 huginn jcamins: Name of part/section of a work  (Repeatable)
18:53 jcamins :D
19:03 * jcamins starts a third VM.
19:06 * jcamins is fully cognizant that this might not be a good idea, but he needs them all.
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19:13 jcamins hdl++
19:13 hdl jcamins: ?
19:13 jcamins Had you been around when I was trying to figure out how to change the behavior of Zebra's tokenizer, I'm sure you would have told me to use parentheses. :)
19:15 hdl :)
19:15 hdl what are you working on ?
19:16 jcamins Bug 4276.
19:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms
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19:21 jcamins hdl: are the UNIMARC default frameworks in Koha up to date?
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19:24 hdl should be... But we updated many things in our master branch
19:25 jcamins So it's just MARC21 that's way out of date? That's good.
19:27 hdl is MARC21 framework sql default out of date ?
19:27 jcamins Yup.
19:27 jcamins 4 years.
19:49 jcamins rangi: is there a reason we don't have an "" script for adding sysprefs to all the SQL files?
19:51 cait ?
19:51 jcamins Well, in order to add a syspref, I am going to append the exact same line to a whole bunch of files.
19:52 jcamins It would be easy to have a script which took the syspref name, type, and description, then did it for me.
19:54 cait hm, not sure, but I think we don't have one because we used to translate them
19:55 jcamins Ah.
19:55 jcamins Don't we use pootle now?
19:55 cait not sure :) or nobody had this idea before :)
19:55 cait yes, we do. but the files are not the same all over still
19:56 cait some settings can only be translated there, like borrowertitle
19:56 jcamins Hm. Well, I'll ask rangi.
19:58 cait what do you think about bug 5848
19:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5848 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail
19:58 cait I have tested it and it works
19:58 cait only not sure if this change of display is ok for everybody
20:00 jcamins A screenshot would be nice. I'm not quite sure why it's needed.
20:01 jcamins cait++
20:01 cait to make display more consistent
20:01 cait i kind of like it - screenshots attached to bug now :)
20:02 jcamins I think I like it too.
20:02 jcamins We should get nengard's opinion.
20:02 cait it also seems a bit cleaner to me
20:02 cait I will send the patch signed-off but add comment to bug
20:10 rangi jcamins: because the .sql files for sysprefs need to go away
20:11 rangi because we translate them with the .pref fiels
20:11 cait that's a good reason too
20:11 cait hi rangi
20:11 rangi it is just confusing and double ups work
20:12 jcamins rangi: ah. That makes sense.
20:12 rangi jcamins: run perl xt/syspref.t
20:12 rangi and it will tell you any missing ones
20:12 jcamins rangi: yeah, that's how I've been doing it.
20:12 rangi what we need is someone to fix the installer
20:12 * jcamins whistles and looks away.
20:12 rangi to always use the english ones, no matter what language we are installing
20:12 rangi and then they can go away
20:15 cait hm looking at 5072 now
20:15 cait I see that robin's patch includes a .gitignore file
20:15 rangi ahh, right fail qa that please
20:15 cait is this a failed qa? or is there a good way I can get that file out of the patch for sign-off?
20:15 rangi and ask him to fix it
20:16 cait ok
20:16 jcamins IndexData did not fix the &amp; entity parsing in 2.0.45.
20:17 jcamins Wait...
20:17 jcamins Actually, I have not managed to upgrade to 2.0.45, never mind.
20:17 cait chris: are you done with the cataloging branch?
20:17 rangi is that 5575?
20:17 cait I was searching for a fix I though might be in there
20:17 rangi or the other one?
20:17 wahanui the other one is old and wrong tho, so not having it, isnt a bad thing
20:18 * rangi needs a bug number and i can tell you
20:18 jcamins Bug 5575 is circ.
20:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
20:18 rangi im not done with that
20:18 cait hm, thought I had looked at one for cataloging earlier
20:18 cait give me a sec
20:18 rangi 5574?
20:18 rangi bug 5574?
20:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements
20:18 rangi im done with that
20:19 cait ah no, it was this bug
20:19 cait ok
20:19 cait hdl said it might include a fix to my problem with saving items.stocknumber
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20:21 cait hi paul_p
20:21 paul_p hello #koha !
20:21 * paul_p writing "Hacker's corner week 11"...  very long to write, many things last week !
20:22 cait hope we made some progess? :)
20:25 rangi hi paul_p
20:25 * rangi hopes to finish 5575 this week
20:26 cait bug 5575
20:26 wahanui i guess bug 5575 is circ.
20:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
20:27 paul_p cait, yep, we made progress, but the easiest one : closing many bugs. The "pls signoff list" has been lowered only a little bit.
20:27 rangi fredericd, cait and I had a good talk about bugs this weekend
20:28 paul_p rangi, aprl 4-8 = 12 hackers outside from BibLibre have said they'll come. Means 20+ overall.
20:28 rangi fredericd was writing up a nice lifecycle of a bug page
20:28 rangi excellent, we should be able to get everything signed off :)
20:29 paul_p rangi, where has this be written ?
20:29 paul_p ok, seen on the wiki ;-)
20:29 wahanui I haven't seen 'on', paul_p
20:30 rangi[…]nt-patch_Workflow
20:31 cait *sighs*
20:31 cait don't understand it, it works in my dev installation here, but not at our production systems at work
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20:58 cait hm, the items table above the add item screen shows my stocknumber and 5 items, but in the items table those fields are empty?
20:58 cait but all, but the most recently added... it's confusing
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21:26 cait1 t
21:35 cait1 bug 5561
21:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5561 normal, P5, ---, nengard, NEW, Help on summary field in authority type editor
21:35 cait1 oh wrong bug
21:36 cait1 bug 5861
21:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5861 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, items.stocknumber not saved correctly
21:37 cait1 rangi: sorry, wondering, you said you are done with the cataloging branch, right? bug 5574?
21:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements
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22:02 cait paul_p: still around?
22:06 * jcamins now understands why cait was having trouble.
22:06 cait huh?
22:06 jcamins Not what caused it, but why there were problems.
22:06 jcamins His installed-from-packages system doesn't work.
22:06 cait oh
22:07 cait I had a lot of trouble today, not sure what you were referencing to :)
22:07 jcamins Okay, git it is.
22:07 jcamins And dinner.
22:07 jcamins Good night, #koha
22:07 cait hehe
22:07 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
22:07 cait ended up using git too but still would like to know where the problem was
22:07 cait good night jcamins_away
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22:11 jcamins_away Okay, I got in, I just can't figure out how to reindex.
22:11 eythian jcamins_away: with the packages?
22:12 cait eythian: tried to use them too, but got stuck - I think it was an apache problem
22:12 eythian sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full *libraryname*
22:12 eythian oh ah
22:12 cait seems jcamins had problems too
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23:18 bg @wunder 93109
23:19 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2�C (4:26 PM PDT on March 13, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
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