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rhcl is now known as rhcl_away |
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| 01:10 |
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sekjal |
can't seem to pull from git.koha-community.org |
| 01:11 |
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mtj |
mason fugu:~/g/head$ git fetch |
| 01:11 |
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mtj |
git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused |
| 01:11 |
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mtj |
fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused) |
| 01:11 |
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mtj |
borked for me too |
| 01:12 |
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mtj |
a network/firewall issue server side? |
| 01:12 |
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mtj |
masonfugu:~/g/head$ git remote -v |
| 01:13 |
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mtj |
origin git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
| 01:13 |
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sekjal |
I think the git daemon could be down |
| 01:13 |
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sekjal |
the gitweb renders fine |
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sekjal |
okay, looks like it's back up; I got a successful pull |
| 01:40 |
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mtj |
cool, me too |
| 01:40 |
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mtj |
sekjal++ |
| 01:41 |
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mtj |
could you fix everyone's edit permissions on koha.org while you're at it? ;) |
| 01:42 |
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sekjal |
mtj: I'll get right on that |
| 01:42 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5ced1b8ef02ba46f> |
| 01:42 |
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mtj |
cool, thanx you! |
| 01:52 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78967d1f60a2bef2a> |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 366 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:12 |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: have you heard much more from John about carrying on his work? |
| 03:13 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 03:15 |
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* ibeardslee |
makes a note in his diary to flick an email to all academy people asking how they are going .. beginning of Marcg |
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rangi |
good plan |
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* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea_ |
| 03:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
heya |
| 03:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
how is everybody this evening |
| 03:34 |
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* space_librarian |
gives thumbs up |
| 03:34 |
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druthb |
doin good! |
| 03:35 |
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druthb |
had dinner with one of my favorite Koha people...never ever dull... |
| 03:35 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hi thar, I'm liz from NEKLS... this server change has gotten me all confusticated as to who's who |
| 03:35 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hehe nice druthb |
| 03:35 |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #366: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/366/ |
| 03:35 |
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hudsonbot |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers |
| 03:35 |
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hudsonbot |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for readingrec.pl |
| 03:36 |
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rangi |
wizzyrea_: space_librarian is a new hire at catalyst .. second week eh space_librarian ? |
| 03:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh nice! lucky duck :) |
| 03:36 |
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space_librarian |
yes, and still surviving... |
| 03:36 |
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space_librarian |
:) |
| 03:37 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
imagines a mashup of carl sagan and marian the librarian, giggles |
| 03:37 |
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ibeardslee |
you've seen the staff photo too? |
| 03:37 |
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wizzyrea_ |
O.O lol |
| 03:37 |
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space_librarian |
oi! |
| 03:37 |
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wizzyrea_ |
pic or it didn't happen ;) |
| 03:39 |
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eythian |
http://www.games-workshop.com/[…]kmain_445x319.jpg <-- you can tell because of the book |
| 03:40 |
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wizzyrea_ |
lol |
| 03:40 |
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space_librarian |
damn. That's a cleric not to be messed with. |
| 03:41 |
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* eythian |
kicks off a migration script, all going well this'll be perfect and I can relax. |
| 03:42 |
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space_librarian |
you're tempting Murphy again. |
| 03:42 |
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wizzyrea_ |
we try not to feed murphy here |
| 03:42 |
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druthb |
I usually plan for all of my migrations to be near-disasters. That way I can be happy when they are not. |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ does the same (not with migrations per se, with most of her projects) |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
you people are such pessimists. |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea_ |
realist? |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
cynic. |
| 03:43 |
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druthb |
no, just been in the biz too long for idealism. |
| 03:44 |
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rangi |
without idealism koha wouldnt exist :) |
| 03:44 |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ |
| 03:44 |
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* druthb |
chuckles. |
| 03:45 |
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druthb |
I have plenty of idealism about Koha. But not about migrations. It'd be easy 'cept for all these screwy librarians doing nasty things to poor helpless data. |
| 03:45 |
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space_librarian |
pragmatists! |
| 03:45 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
has lots of helpless data |
| 03:45 |
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eythian |
that is definitely an issue. |
| 03:45 |
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* eythian |
shakes fist at librarians. |
| 03:45 |
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space_librarian |
poor, helpless data |
| 03:45 |
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wizzyrea_ |
though... i'm pretty sure it wasn't my librarians who messed it up >.> |
| 03:45 |
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druthb |
yes, you do, wizzyrea_ . You guys are bonkers, but I loves ya. |
| 03:46 |
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wizzyrea_ |
i'm going to tell them that they're bonkers tomorrow |
| 03:46 |
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druthb |
:) |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
oh hey. I think that run worked. |
| 03:46 |
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* eythian |
prepares to load up the staging server. |
| 03:46 |
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* space_librarian |
crosses fingers |
| 03:46 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
ponders the fact that she has 33 libraries, and at least double that many librarians adding things every day |
| 03:46 |
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wizzyrea_ |
you're right, we're bonkers. |
| 03:47 |
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space_librarian |
but it's so much fun! |
| 03:47 |
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* space_librarian |
looks at the koha propaganda she's writing... |
| 03:49 |
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space_librarian |
Actually, is it propaganda if it's the truth? |
| 03:49 |
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eythian |
I think so, yes |
| 03:49 |
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wizzyrea_ |
well, yes, I think so |
| 03:49 |
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ibeardslee |
depends if you've won the war or not |
| 03:49 |
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space_librarian |
Are we winning? |
| 03:49 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, don't be like the iraqi information minister |
| 03:50 |
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space_librarian |
lol |
| 03:50 |
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rangi |
we won 2 years ago, its just taking a long time for the others to realise that |
| 03:50 |
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ibeardslee |
heh |
| 03:50 |
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space_librarian |
but of course. Nobody else got the memo. |
| 03:53 |
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eythian |
Query OK, 0 rows affected (1 min 4.83 sec) |
| 03:53 |
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eythian |
you do lie so, mysql. |
| 03:54 |
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space_librarian |
problem? |
| 03:54 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck) |
| 03:54 |
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eythian |
no, '0 rows affected' when it had just spend a minute deleting 70,000 of them. |
| 03:54 |
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* druthb |
pokes wahanui |
| 03:54 |
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eythian |
oh bother. They have duplicate barcodes. |
| 03:55 |
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space_librarian |
What did I say about tempting Murphy? |
| 03:55 |
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eythian |
hey, this isn't my problem, per se. |
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| 03:57 |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
�hola! |
| 03:57 |
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space_librarian |
kia ora |
| 03:57 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
waves at brooke |
| 03:58 |
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rangi |
so today is SCLS big day eh? |
| 03:58 |
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rangi |
http://scls.typepad.com/link2k[…]ation-events.html |
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| 04:15 |
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eythian |
81531 MARC records done in 1220.90409493446 seconds |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
yay :) |
| 04:15 |
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rangi |
eek, i better get out of here |
| 04:15 |
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* rangi |
looks at the time |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
yeah, you'll miss your train |
| 04:16 |
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eythian |
bus rather |
| 04:16 |
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wizzyrea_ |
go go |
| 04:16 |
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eythian |
or it'll break down |
| 04:16 |
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druthb |
I'm headed to bed, gang. see you soon. |
| 04:16 |
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wizzyrea_ |
later :) |
| 04:17 |
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Brooke_ |
bah, sleep is an addiction that can be cured. |
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space_librarian |
and I shall bid you all adieu too... |
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Brooke_ |
Excellent, now that all the important types are gone, Robin and I can finally open our tawdry discothèque |
| 04:21 |
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wizzyrea_ |
!! |
| 04:21 |
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eythian |
Brooke_: yay! |
| 04:21 |
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space_librarian |
I came back at the wrong time... |
| 04:21 |
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eythian |
or the _right_ time?! |
| 04:22 |
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Brooke_ |
:D |
| 04:22 |
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space_librarian |
true. |
| 04:22 |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh that's what I was going to say! |
| 04:22 |
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wizzyrea_ |
I wasn't fast enough >.> |
| 04:22 |
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* space_librarian |
finds the mirror ball |
| 04:22 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
looks for the heeled shoes |
| 04:23 |
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eythian |
conveniently, there's already a blinking floor here. |
| 04:23 |
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Brooke_ |
surely it is what Mr. Christie intended. |
| 04:24 |
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eythian |
I have no doubt. |
| 04:25 |
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eythian |
2193 duplicate barcodes. I'm willing to bet that's Liberty vomit. |
| 04:25 |
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Brooke_ |
oof |
| 04:25 |
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space_librarian |
yep. |
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* wizzyrea_ |
yawns |
| 04:33 |
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Brooke_ |
oof not you too |
| 04:36 |
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* eythian |
cranks the Devin Townsend in order to keep motivated for the next hour. |
| 04:39 |
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eythian |
http://rpsbattle.com/aboutrules/ <-- what a curious idea |
| 04:42 |
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Brooke_ |
hehehe |
| 04:43 |
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Brooke_ |
clearly it is your solemn duty to represent paper in Jo's name. |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
hehe |
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space_librarian |
I'm tempted. Just for kicks... |
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space_librarian |
Nope. Men's medium. No go. |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
that does seem like an odd restriction |
| 04:50 |
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space_librarian |
And now I'm going. For real. Keep on dancing... |
| 04:52 |
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Brooke_ |
cheers |
| 04:52 |
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* Brooke_ |
is heading off to level her WoW alt... |
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snail |
evening all |
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rangi |
hi snail |
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francharb |
hi all |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
guten morgen kf |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
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hdl |
hi all |
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magnuse |
bonjour hdl |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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rangi |
hmmm, we need a bywater person or gmcharlt |
| 08:41 |
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paul_p |
bonjour l'europe. Sweet dreams oceania & america ! |
| 08:50 |
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magnuse |
wassup rangi? |
| 08:50 |
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rangi |
git |
| 08:50 |
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rangi |
its been up and down over the last day, currently down |
| 08:50 |
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magnuse |
ah |
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magnuse |
lazy americans, asleep when we need them... ;-) |
| 08:57 |
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magnuse |
btw, where does one apply for admin rights on the wiki? i'd like to help fight spam if i may... |
| 08:59 |
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rangi |
ahh i think i can do that, whats your username? |
| 09:00 |
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magnuse |
just Magnus |
| 09:02 |
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slef |
rangi: it is close to the border-line, but I think a small RM sponsorship note would be OK. Possibly newsletter for now, then note the sponsorship if/when you're appointed as 3.6 RM at next IRC general meeting? |
| 09:04 |
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slef |
And is there no way to test wiki pages for spamminess and hold dubious ones (like if ((links-to-other-wiki-pages < 2) and (back-links < 2) and (off-site-links > 0)) then hold for moderation)? |
| 09:05 |
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paul_p |
slef, very good idea ! (the moderation for wiki permissions) |
| 09:05 |
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rangi |
magnuse: ahh i cant, but i think paul can |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
slef: i have no idea, im sure there probably is |
| 09:06 |
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paul_p |
we are a small wiki, with most contributors being long-time contributor, so putting some limits to creating pages is OK I think. Or we could add a full moderation = be able to write only after having written somethin on koha-devel or sent a mail to wiki admins. |
| 09:07 |
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paul_p |
rangi & magnuse = looking to see if I can give you erms |
| 09:08 |
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slef |
paul_p: barriers to entry hinder community growth. By-page moderation would be better. |
| 09:09 |
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magnuse |
rangi & paul_p: looks like a Bureaucrat is needed... |
| 09:09 |
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paul_p |
rangi, & magnuse = I have your user page Magnus, but can't see where I can give you admin perms |
| 09:09 |
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rangi |
yep i have admin, but not bureaucrat |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
ahh same with paul |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
thd, gmcharlt or nengard can do it |
| 09:10 |
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magnuse |
yup, i better wait for the americans (again with the americans! ;-) |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
thanks for trying |
| 09:12 |
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slef |
global power distribution #fail :) |
| 09:15 |
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slef |
mtj: are you there? |
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kf |
do we have the planned dates for 3.4 somewhere? |
| 09:39 |
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rangi |
planned dates for what? |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
feature freeze/string freeze? |
| 09:39 |
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rangi |
they arent planned |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
ah |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
ok, I thought we had talked about them on one meeting, but can't find my notes |
| 09:39 |
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rangi |
yeah, we discussed them, nothing set in stone tho |
| 09:39 |
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rangi |
depends how march goes |
| 09:40 |
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rangi |
most likely feature freeze end of march string freeze on the 8th of april |
| 09:41 |
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kf |
ok |
| 09:41 |
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kf |
thx rangi |
| 10:30 |
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kf |
hm the filter on the overdues report are acting strange |
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magnuse is now known as magnus_lunch |
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gmcharlt |
magnus_lunch: what is your wiki username? |
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magnus_lunch |
gmcharlt: plain ol' Magnus |
| 11:33 |
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* druthb |
thinks magnus is neither plain nor ol'. |
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* kf |
agrees |
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gmcharlt |
magnus_lunch: cool, you're now a plain ol' wiki administrator ;) |
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magnus_lunch is now known as magnuse |
| 11:57 |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: thanks, i'll weild my powers carefully! |
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druthb |
magnus++ |
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kf |
magnuse++ |
| 12:02 |
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kf |
this additional e is irritating me |
| 12:02 |
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magnuse |
ooh, thanks |
| 12:02 |
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magnuse |
sorry, plain ol' magnus was taken by someone else |
| 12:03 |
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druthb |
magnuse++ |
| 12:03 |
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kf |
magnuse: we should find that person... |
| 12:04 |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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magnuse |
rangi was looking for someone earlier to have a look at Le Git... |
| 12:11 |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: what's up? |
| 12:11 |
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* druthb |
thinks "release early, release often" is a good thing....Except that if Terry Reese puts out *another* MarcEdit bundle this week, I'm gonna have to go after him with a big stick. |
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liw |
large irc networks tend to have a lot of people wanting the same names -- I'm lucky that my preferred nick is _usually_ not taken |
| 12:11 |
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druthb |
mornin, nengard. :) |
| 12:11 |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: or rather, what's down... i can't get a response from it... |
| 12:11 |
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nengard |
morning |
| 12:12 |
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magnuse |
hiya nengard |
| 12:12 |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: rangi said "its been up and down over the last day, currently down" |
| 12:12 |
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nengard |
woo hoo : http://www.facebook.com/101ftb[…]10150100341493234 |
| 12:13 |
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* druthb |
hasn't won a dern thing from them yet. |
| 12:13 |
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magnuse |
congrats :-) |
| 12:14 |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: indeed. I can't SSH in to the server, so can't do anything myself |
| 12:14 |
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* gmcharlt |
floats the sekjal-druthb-et-al bat signal |
| 12:15 |
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* druthb |
will kick it...sec. |
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jcamins_away is now known as jcamins |
| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
| 12:15 |
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magnuse |
is it a plane? is it a bird? no, it's.... bywater! |
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nengard |
:) |
| 12:19 |
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druthb |
should be up now! |
| 12:19 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78967d1f60a2bef2a> / Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5ced1b8ef02ba46f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_2170' i |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5751 : Follow up patch, removing unused variable and fixing copyright <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]146ab247ba495d5c7> / Bug 5751 : MT2690 fix members-home <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b4a563b162977454> / updating some references from koha.org to koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb |
| 12:22 |
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magnuse |
druthb: works for me, thanks! (but the web interface is slow, it shows the links to the stats and then waits a looong time to display the links to the repos...) |
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druthb |
hm. hmhmhm..wonder what's goin on there.. |
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goes to feed his sourdough starter before getting his day completely started. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: say hi to it from us! ;-) |
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druthb |
When the sourdough starter answers back, you'll know it's a little *too* ready. |
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jwagner |
druthb, maybe the sourdough just doesn't want to disappoint its fans? |
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druthb |
Possibly, jwagner, but just like the Nats.... :P |
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jwagner |
Hey! Spring training has just started!!! Let us have at least some time to enjoy the prospect of a great season before cold cruel reality sets in.... |
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druthb |
hee hee |
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* druthb |
heard a Cubs fan once say, "yeah, the Cubs will suck again this year, but that's okay, I'll still go." |
| 12:35 |
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jwagner |
I'm going to make a bold prediction that the Nats will _not_ finish at the bottom of the National League East this year. I didn't say they'd finish at the top, mind you.... |
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nengard |
is git still not working? |
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* druthb |
likes the hard-boiled realism of Cubs fans like that. |
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druthb |
looks good from here, nengard |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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nengard |
trying again |
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nengard |
website is working, but fetch keeps timing out |
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magnuse |
the wesite is really snappy from where i'm sitting now |
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magnuse |
s/wesite/website/ |
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hdl |
hi gm |
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hdl |
hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: bonjour |
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wahanui |
hi, gmcharlt |
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* jwagner |
wonders if wahanui will say hi to the sourdough too |
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druthb |
wahanui: sourdough? |
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wahanui |
sourdough is probably my friend! |
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kf |
lol |
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druthb |
hee hee |
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magnuse |
tee hee |
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jcamins |
The sourdough says hi. |
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jcamins |
It's growing up to be big and strong. :) |
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jwagner |
Awwww. How sweet! (or sour?) |
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magnuse |
does it (he? she?) have a name? |
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jcamins |
It's very exciting. My pseudo-sourdough on Sunday was a great success and I look forward to another pseudo-sourdough today, and in a week or two I'll be able to make real sourdough bread! :) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: not yet. |
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magnuse |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 20852 |
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druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.4�C (8:15 AM EST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
awww... |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I go back and forth on whether I want a bread machine or not. |
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paul_p |
jcamins, the bread machine is wonderfull to do the knead the dough. And awful to bake. I use it only for knead ! |
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paul_p |
before going to bed = put the water & the flour & any specific flavour, program to be finished at 6:30AM. Wake up, get the dough & shape the loaf. Put it into the oven that you've heated just 3mn, got to bathroom, put clothes, shave your beard, wake up childrens, and you can bake the bread, it's ready (set the oven to "hot" ;-) ) |
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paul_p |
just before leaving to school with childrens, the bread is ready ! (although too hot to be eaten, but it's perfect for lunch/dinner !) |
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jcamins |
Ooh, I like the idea of a bread machine with a timer! |
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didn't realize they had fancy bread machines that did that. |
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oleonard |
Oh you bet, that's not even a new feature. |
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druthb |
mine has a timer. I don't use it very often...hmmm. |
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jcamins |
druthb: you have a bread machine, and you don't use it?!? Sacrilege! |
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* jwagner |
has a bread machine and doesn't use it |
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jcamins |
Sacrilege! |
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druthb |
hm.... got a hungry for a good easy bread...wonder if I have everything I need for it. |
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jcamins |
Later this morning I am going to be kneading *by hand*... uhhhh... 2 kilos of bread, and you have bread machines sitting unused. |
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shakes his head dolefully. |
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jwagner |
jcamins, want mine? |
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jcamins |
What is this world coming to? |
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jcamins |
jwagner: half the fun is kneading by hand. Also, I live in NYC and even in my beautiful big new kitchen there's no space. |
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jwagner |
I just don't eat that much bread, and a loaf goes stale. |
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kf |
I think even a bread machine can not knead 2kg of bread dough |
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jcamins |
kf: it can if you get a mixer that stands on the floor! |
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kf |
the ones I saw around here where rather small |
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jcamins |
kf: the ones that will bake the bread are limited to 2lbs, but you can get a bread machine that just does the kneading. |
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jcamins |
I guess the large ones are just called "mixers." |
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druthb |
cleverly-named devices. |
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jcamins |
druthb: yeah yeah yeah. My mother's "bread machine" would now be termed a mixer, so my confusion is understandable, I think. |
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* oleonard |
visited a chocolate factory yesterday |
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magnuse |
ooh, chocolate... |
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oleonard |
Their motto was "We eat all we can and sell the rest" |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
who can give pootle a cick? |
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hdl |
fredericd iirc |
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* oleonard |
wonders how widely known "Buckeye" candies are http://www.anthony-thomas.com/[…]ckeyes/cat_3.html |
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magnuse |
yeah |
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oleonard |
On some pages Koha adds a special parser to the jQuery table sorter to exclude English articles ("the|an|a") |
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oleonard |
Should we add a system preference for that for other languages? |
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oleonard |
(<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="articles" -->) |
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oleonard |
Doesn't this kind of sorting cause problems for French titles paul_p? |
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sekjal |
oleonard: making it pref controlled would allow for more than just articles... full stop-words lists could be configured |
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paul_p |
oleonard, yep, although no-one reported it until now ! |
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paul_p |
I just discover this here thx to you ! |
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paul_p |
oleonard++ |
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paul_p |
(once again...) |
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jcamins |
What would happen if 942c were blank in every record? |
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oleonard |
sekjal: How might one want to expand it past articles? |
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sekjal |
oleonard: if the contents of the system preference was like BorrowersTitles, any set of words in any language could be added |
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oleonard |
yes, that is what I'm proposing |
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sekjal |
academics may want "Journal of" added to that non-sorting list, for example |
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magnuse |
hm, that functionality seems "dangerous" in a multi lingual catalogue... you want to exclude "the", but then tea is spelled "the" in some language etc |
| 14:48 |
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magnuse |
but anyway, letting individual libraries set it the way they want sounds like a good idea! |
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jwagner |
jcamins, if 942c is blank, and there are still places that check that (which there are), they'll use the first itype in your list |
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jwagner |
At least, that's my experience. |
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oleonard |
We should chase down those places in the code. Choosing the first itype in the list doesn't sound correct |
| 14:51 |
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jwagner |
I agree. Those old fragments cause me more grief than almost anything :-( |
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sekjal |
It seems to me that Koha should try for items.itype first, then fall back to biblioitems.itemtype if no item-level type is found, then give a warning if that's blank |
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sekjal |
for biblios with many, many items, it would be a quick way to set a global default item type for them in a single place |
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jwagner |
And maybe, if an item record is created, populate biblioitems.itemtype (i.e., 942c) from that item? |
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jwagner |
Right now, you have to actively set it. |
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* jcamins |
was just accosted by bread dough when he wandered into the kitchen to heat some water for tea. |
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jcamins |
It has tripled in size in the last hour. |
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rhcl |
sourdough? |
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wahanui |
sourdough is my friend! |
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rhcl |
send me a start |
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kf |
oleonard: around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
kf? |
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wahanui |
kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day. |
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rhcl |
"Voluntary but not amateur" = 70 USD @ Amazon for the 2009 paperback edition. |
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rhcl |
there are actually several subtitled versions of "Voluntary but not amateur" |
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hdl |
kf ? |
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wahanui |
kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day. |
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hdl |
nice |
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jcamins |
rhcl: my starter hasn't completely gotten going yet. |
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jcamins |
This is the yeast bread I made with the half of my starter that was due to be discarded. |
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rhcl |
yea, you just want to keep your secret formula :) |
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jcamins |
rhcl: Wayne Gisslen's Professional Baking. |
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kf |
oh sorry |
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kf |
was tracking down one of my coworkers :) |
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kf |
oleonard: have you ever tried mailto: links with a body in reports? |
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oleonard |
kf: No, I actually seldom use guided reports. Usually I write custom report pages for our intranet in PHP |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
ok, I only thought you might have perhaps had a similar idea beofre |
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kf |
I am having trouble with the diacritics |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl and I have come up with a compelling reason to keep the notices tab and ditch the messaging tab |
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wizzyrea |
in the patron detail |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea and rhcl: go on |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal you probably already have an idea about this |
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wizzyrea |
actually |
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wahanui |
rumour has it actually is since there are more regula updates |
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druthb |
wahanui: forget actually |
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wahanui |
druthb: I forgot actually |
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wizzyrea |
add a way to print or send those notices again |
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wizzyrea |
just a column with a link to print/resend |
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wizzyrea |
"on demand" would probably be your keyword |
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wizzyrea |
well a column with 2 options: one to print, one to re-send |
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rhcl |
yea, what she sez |
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wizzyrea |
we're obviously keeping the data that was in the notices |
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wizzyrea |
why not be able to use it? |
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kf |
wizzyrea: I am all for that, but I am still for combining both tabs and a nicer layout for the message |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
and I am not sure both show all messages |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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wizzyrea |
what if |
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kf |
I also want to see the hold messages and check-out checkin |
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wizzyrea |
we kept the notices format for the list |
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wizzyrea |
and added the print/resend |
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kf |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
to see the message you would click print |
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kf |
or a pop up with formatted message |
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wizzyrea |
and it would be purty |
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kf |
wizzyrea++ |
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kf |
wizzyrea: the only problem is print notices |
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kf |
they don't show up at the moment, because it's one line in the message_queue table |
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rhcl |
nengard should have been on chat for the last 10 minutes discussion :) |
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wizzyrea |
it's logged :) |
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nengard |
was busy training new koha librarians |
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nengard |
what was the discussion (general topic)? documentation stuff? |
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wizzyrea |
well maybe it would be good to have all messages indicated here |
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wizzyrea |
in the messaging tab |
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wizzyrea |
or notices, whichever you choose |
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wizzyrea |
even ones that are for print |
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nengard |
read the log |
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nengard |
good ideas |
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wizzyrea |
is there a bug or rfc for this? |
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wizzyrea |
a birdie told me that on demand notices might already be in the works |
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rhcl |
Ima duck |
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nengard |
sekjal was writing up a spec - so there is no rfc yet cause he's still talking to people about what they want |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans |
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* jcamins |
pictures rhcl running around shouting "I'm a seagull." |
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wizzyrea |
bald eagle, probably, we have more of those here. |
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wizzyrea |
we do get the occasional lost seagull |
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kf |
umlauts-- |
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kf |
diacritics-- |
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jcamins |
(well, actually, rhcl is shouting "Ia chaika," but let's not get technical) |
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kf |
bye all |
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jcamins |
kf: wait! Don't go! Diacritics aren't so dire that you must make this final, irrevokable step. |
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jcamins |
*irrevocable? |
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druthb |
lol |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
I don't - only running away |
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rhcl |
isn't "chaika" russian for seagull? ...gonna check google |
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rhcl |
yes: chaĭka |
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jcamins |
rhcl: yep. |
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nengard |
US people - do you like Borders? Well they're closing a bunch of stores! including mine :( http://on.wsj.com/iaMoaR |
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jcamins |
nengard: I don't think there are any Borders stores in New York. |
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jcamins |
If there are, I've never seen them. |
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jcamins |
B & N, on the other hand, is ubiquitous. |
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jcamins |
Oh, apparently there are a few in NYC. |
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wizzyrea |
I never liked our borders |
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* oleonard |
's nearest Borders is spared |
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oleonard |
jcamins: According to the list, NYC has two which are closing |
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oleonard |
Probably because no one knew they were there ;) |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - why not? |
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nengard |
my borders is better than my B&N |
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jcamins |
oleonard: Funny how that works, isn't it? |
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wizzyrea |
ours was laid out very badly |
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wizzyrea |
and the books were more expensive there than any other bookstore in town |
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nengard |
good reasons! :) |
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oleonard |
Thanks for the signoff nengard |
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nengard |
np |
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oleonard |
nengard++ |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: not only did they not use LC, they didn't even use Dewey? :P |
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druthb_foodz |
The two borders stores that I go to are *both* closing! |
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francharb |
hi |
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francharb |
someone knows what does "actual cost" refer to? (in neworderempty.pl) |
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cait |
hi all |
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francharb |
hi c |
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francharb |
cait: |
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francharb |
hi |
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francharb |
ahah |
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cait |
hi francharb ;) |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: it was perhaps the the most weirdly laid out book store I've ever been in |
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wizzyrea |
like things were together, but in completely strange ways |
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jwagner |
Huh. Looks like all the Borders stores near me are closing. Sigh. |
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jcamins |
Good thing we have dinner guests coming on Friday. |
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jcamins |
We now have 7 loaves of bread. |
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oleonard |
Just tell 'em to bring water and you're all set. |
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francharb |
almost 7PM here, i'm need to stop working! :) if someone knows what "actual cost" is meant for (neworderempty.pl and orderreceive.pl) let me know! |
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francharb |
thanks |
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francharb |
see you |
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francharb_away |
by the way, i got my idea about this actual cost but not sure about it... |
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cait |
francharb_away: my guess is that it should not be on orderempty but only on receive - the price you actually paid for the book |
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francharb_away |
thats what i think to |
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francharb_away |
too |
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cait |
:) |
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francharb_away |
and it should be the cost that impact the budgets |
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cait |
hm, the cost that impacts the spent value |
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francharb_away |
yes |
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cait |
cool |
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francharb_away |
but if someone can confirm this, it would be great! |
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cait |
perhaps a post on the mailing list would bring up some more answers from librarians |
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cait |
not sure there is a way you can use the field in acq |
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jcamins |
Does OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture work? |
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jcamins |
It seems to. |
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francharb_away |
cait: i'm working for biblibre and we are currently developping something on the acquisition module. the thing is, we've got a library who sponsore the development so we 'kind of' must do what they want but at the same i need to check out if it's working with what already exists...* |
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francharb_away |
i'm pretty sure we did RFC for those developments... |
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cait |
there are some things on the wiki and the manual, but some details are still a bit hard to figure out |
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rangi |
Morning |
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nengard |
afternoon |
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bg |
morning |
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rangi |
@wunder Wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
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sekjal |
morning, rangi |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9�C (11:06 AM PST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi, how's the patch-wrangling going? |
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rangi |
Slowly but surely |
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* cait |
waves to rangi |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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rangi |
hi Brooke_ |
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Brooke_ |
:) |
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rangi |
its a nice sunny day, so i think this is todays theme song |
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rangi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgP1mxOFB8 |
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Brooke_ |
have to look at that *after* the conference call, methinks |
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rangi |
and an oldy but a goody |
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rangi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIySfQ6Qurs |
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sekjal |
working on fixing some unicode issues with Koha's SIP |
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* Brooke_ |
cheers at sekjal. |
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sekjal |
anyone know a good SIP client I can I can use to test connect? |
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wizzyrea |
BLESS YOU SEKJAL |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal++ |
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oleonard |
How does the web installer know what language to use? |
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bg |
wow wizzy all CAPS eh? |
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Brooke_ |
rumour has it the web installer knows if you've been naughty or nice... |
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* oleonard |
has never gotten the naughty version of the installer before |
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oleonard |
"Enter the &%^$ password you #%$$@, I ain't got all day!" |
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Brooke_ |
hhehehe |
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Brooke_ |
that is why I'm not entrusted with critical error messages |
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oleonard |
Speaking of error messages, the installer says on Step 2, "Please click Next to continue if this information is correct" |
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oleonard |
What if the information is not correct? |
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oleonard |
Should we offer a suggestion to the user? |
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oleonard |
Interesting... Here's where our installer's redirect Javascript came from: http://grizzlyweb.com/webmaste[…]ripts/refresh.asp |
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oleonard |
At least that's the top Google hit on one of the comments from the js |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
there's no license on that |
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rangi |
we should sort that out |
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oleonard |
google returns 1,800 results for the phrase, of course, so the cat's out of the bag |
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* oleonard |
is going over the markup in the installer |
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oleonard |
Anyone have any installer pet peeves besides the missing <label>s that were making me mad? |
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wizzyrea |
OH ME |
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wizzyrea |
me me |
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wizzyrea |
I think |
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wizzyrea |
that the installer should prompt you to set up the most important sysprefs at web installer time |
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wizzyrea |
* libraries |
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wizzyrea |
* patron categories |
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oleonard |
Sorry wizzyrea, just looking at markup (templates) |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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* wizzyrea |
sulks a little. Gets over it. |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
the cat's out of the bag :) |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: libs? yeah? patron categories? maybe just a minimal set to start |
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gmcharlt |
I agree that we can afford to ask a few more questions during installation, but I think we should keep it limited so that time-to-running-Koha is not too long |
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sekjal |
installing the 3M SIP2 emulator on a virtual machine... so many layers |
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gmcharlt |
for more Q&A/wizard-based setup, maybe add it to administration |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., Koha initial configuration wizard |
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sekjal |
and Windows 7 is starting to tick me off |
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Brooke_ |
if we had an out of the box option for several Library types already done for folks, they could always twiddle later to customise. |
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rangi |
a wizard would be good |
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Brooke_ |
only if we name the installer Harry |
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rangi |
pick : special, small public, consortia etc |
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Brooke_ |
or Gandald |
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Brooke_ |
Gandalf even |
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rangi |
harry is weak! |
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space_librarian |
Voldemort! |
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gmcharlt |
space_librarian: you speak of the proprietary wizards |
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Brooke_ |
oooooh |
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space_librarian |
true. I realised that as soon as I spoke |
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Brooke_ |
we could name it Space Librarian |
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gmcharlt |
only if Space Librarians wear capes |
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Brooke_ |
not all Space Librarians are Super Librarians |
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* space_librarian |
ponders the thought |
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Brooke_ |
but all Super Librarians wear capes. |
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space_librarian |
Hermione was the better wizard in HP though... And she wears a cape. |
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Brooke_ |
was she though? |
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rangi |
http://failbook.failblog.org/2[…]lf-or-dumbledore/ |
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Brooke_ |
Heavy on book larnin' low on spirit |
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space_librarian |
"best wizard of her generation..." |
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wizzyrea |
can anyone think of a reason why koha would think that a birthdate in 1947 isn't between 18 years and 999 years old? |
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oleonard |
Koha thinks it's 1955? |
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space_librarian |
timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff? |
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wizzyrea |
ok, does it compute the date from the client or the server? |
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wizzyrea |
the age |
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wizzyrea |
I man |
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wizzyrea |
mean |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Or even better, Koha thinks it's the year 2947! |
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Brooke_ |
Stephen Fry wrote the code? |
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wizzyrea |
ha ha very funny |
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* space_librarian |
applauds Brooke |
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* Brooke_ |
bows. |
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* Brooke_ |
waves to hdl. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e97e4f3631ed04cc1> / Follow up on Bug 5462: fixing variable names breaks messaging preference form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8d511714a54b6d33> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record |
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hdl |
hi Brooke |
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* francharb_away |
waves to Brooke_ |
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francharb_away |
;) |
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hdl |
hi francharb_away |
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francharb_away |
hey hdl: it's been a long time! |
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francharb_away |
;) |
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* Brooke_ |
steals francharb's _away |
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francharb_away |
hey Brooke_: by any chance, do you know what 'actual cost' is meant for (in neworderempty.pl and orderreveice.pl?) i think it's to specified the real cost at receipt but if so, why is it at the order level? |
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rangi |
francharb_away: for receiving things that you bought at a bookstore, or were donations |
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Brooke_ |
it might be an option for added processing or donations |
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rangi |
you can order and receive in one go |
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rangi |
if you have the item in your hand |
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francharb_away |
ok, i see |
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francharb_away |
thanks! |
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francharb_away |
:) |
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francharb_away |
Brooke_: rangi: everyone: have good day / afternoon / evening ! |
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francharb_away |
bye |
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francharb_away |
;) |
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Brooke_ |
cheers |
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nengard |
i have a managing suggestions question |
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nengard |
i know we have message templates for when a suggestion is approved, rejected, ordered, etc |
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nengard |
do those messages actually send? |
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nengard |
and if we have those why don't we have an email to the librarian that there is a suggestion waiting? |
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nengard |
or do we and I'm missing it? |
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nengard |
:) |
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hdl |
nengard: iirc, there has been a systempreference for that. |
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nengard |
i thought so too! but i can't find it anymore |
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nengard |
maybe i'm just overlooking it |
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cait |
hm, I think we have only the email librarian when a hold is placed |
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cait |
and I think the only way to deactivate the suggestions mails is probably deleting the template |
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cait |
I have not tried if they are sent, but there seems to be no switch |
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hdl |
nengard: it is for the HOLD... |
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nengard |
that I found |
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hdl |
Not for suggestion... |
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nengard |
cait so the suggestion emails are sending? (I dont have email turned on on my test server) |
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cait |
nengard: to be honest - I have not tested it |
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nengard |
:) |
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cait |
only supposing they sent because they got fixed recently |
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* oleonard |
finds Bug 5352 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron |
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oleonard |
And Bug 5126 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6796c605fd7ae25c9> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5462, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a86422d4a97b1b03> |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form. |
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oleonard |
And Bug 5539 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails |
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hdl |
nengard: should be sent EmailLibrarianWhenholdPlaced. |
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nengard |
hdl, that email is for holds - are you saying it's also for acq? |
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hdl |
unfortunately, not yet developped. |
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oleonard |
Any Chrome users out there willing to test and sign off on my patch for Bug 5140? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar |
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nengard |
bug 5770 submitted |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5770 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, email librarian when purchase suggestion made |
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nengard |
oleonard i can do that |
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oleonard |
Thanks. And I'll try to figure out what the status is of Bug 5126 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form. |
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cait |
nengard++ oleonard++ for being amazing :) |
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Brooke_ |
ski ye later |
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nengard |
oleonard - sorry - it doesn't do anything in chrome on mac |
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nengard |
the problem still exists |
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oleonard |
nengard: Did you shift-reload? |
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nengard |
yes |
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oleonard |
Did you shift-reload while crossing your fingers? :) |
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nengard |
LOL |
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nengard |
no let me try that |
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nengard |
sorry no luck |
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nengard |
also my calendar has an ugly black bar on it |
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nengard |
i'll attach a screenshot |
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nengard |
might be a mac thing |
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* gmcharlt |
confirms the black bar that negard is seeing; Chrome on OS X |
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oleonard |
Weird. |
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nengard |
oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is temporarily sated. |
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nengard |
i screwed up |
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nengard |
oopsie |
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nengard |
it works :) |
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nengard |
HA! |
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nengard |
signing off now |
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oleonard |
It was the fingers-crossed, wasn't it! :) |
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nengard |
yes |
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nengard |
updated bug 5140 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar |
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nengard |
with a new chrome issues :) |
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* oleonard |
runs home to search for the black bar in OS X |
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hdl |
have a good night |
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wizzyrea |
wahanui: forget oleonard |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard is the master UI designer of koha |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it oleonard is the master UI designer of koha |
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rhcl |
anybody seen/heard from Kyle Hall recently? |
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rangi |
not in ages |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: about? |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: here |
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wizzyrea |
you were working on envisionware a while back right? |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: I was trying to get the 3M SIP2 Emulator to work |
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sekjal |
so I could test my patch for SIP messages with Unicode |
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nengard |
anyone have any comments or sign offs for bug 3670 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages |
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wizzyrea |
right right (aside, in a few weeks you'll have actual self checks to piddle with :)) |
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wizzyrea |
aside from that |
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wizzyrea |
in your adventures with SIP |
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wizzyrea |
regarding how it sends the birthdate |
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wizzyrea |
did you have any experience with how that works with envisionware |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: not yet |
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sekjal |
is it sending in ISO? or something else? |
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rhcl |
we're back to trying the rewritten Libki, hence my query about Kyle |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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nengard |
Libki was re-written? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, without cake |
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rhcl |
oh yes, completely |
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rhcl |
we've just now setup the server and client, everything seems to work except the Koha integration |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: I think that EW is expecting an "age" |
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wizzyrea |
instead of a birthdate |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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rangi |
!hudson status |
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hudsonbot |
status of all projects: |
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hudsonbot |
Koha_3.0.x(disabled) : last build: 2 (3 mo 18 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ |
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hudsonbot |
Koha_3.2.x: last build: 99 (2 days 18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/99/ |
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hudsonbot |
Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch: last build: 7 (5 days 2 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]s_3_2_x_Branch/7/ |
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Koha_Docs_Master_Branch: last build: 57 (5 days 2 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/57/ |
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rangi you scared hudsonbot away |
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rangi |
hupping it |
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rangi |
it got confused when git died the other day |
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rangi |
!hudson build koha_master now |
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hudsonbot |
rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
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druthb |
!hudson botsnack cookie |
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hudsonbot |
druthb: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I really like that cookie |
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sekjal |
huzzah! finally got the SIP emulator working, and my patch seems to function |
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wizzyrea |
woohoo! |
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rhcl |
sekjal: what does you SIP patch do? |
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sekjal |
rhcl: it prevents SIP machines from crashing when checking out titles with diacritics |
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sekjal |
or, at least that's the intent |
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sekjal |
diacritics in a title or other bit of SIP message make checksum calculation all wonky |
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sekjal |
my patch just scrubs out any diacritical marks before writing |
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sekjal |
based it on the solution Evergreen came up with for the same problem |
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sekjal, this is because 3M didn't define SIP to deal w/ diacritics |
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atz |
bascially, their checksum algorithm is useless after we start pushing UTF8 |
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sekjal |
atz: does NCIP have the same limitation, do you know? |
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we weren't able to entirely "fix" this in evergreen either |
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see this test: https://github.com/atz/SIPServ[…]t/0001_checksum.t |
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atz |
run it w/ an arg like "1" to get verbose debugging output |
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does NCIP do any checksumming at all? I suspect not. |
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really checksums were included because the original expected mode of communication was via SERIAL cable |
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sekjal |
ewww |
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modern network communication (TCPIP) already has checksums built in, and they aren't limited to ASCII or Microsoft code pages |
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rhcl |
so conceptually is there some better way than SIP/NCIP to query a remote db? Kyle must be doing something different with Libki. |
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sekjal |
rhcl: for specific ILS systems, it's probably better to use whatever API they may have. but SIP/NCIP are standards (more or less) that work well enough for a large enough number of systems |
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rhcl |
I was thinking Z39.60 |
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sekjal |
good for getting bibliographic info, but not patron or circulation data |
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ah, I'm disappointed. Thought somebody would query the .60, but I guess I was too subtle. |
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rhcl |
z39.60 is a new standard I'm proposing to replace SIP |
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rhcl |
guess it's time to go grab a cup of coffee... |
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sekjal |
rhcl: thought it was already a standard in use... like Z39.50 for unicode.... obviously I was reading too much into the vague Google results |
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sekjal |
time for me to call it a night |
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bg |
SIP |
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bg |
just testing to see if atz has a keyword alert for SIP :) |
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@wunder 93109 |
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kia ora |
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