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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74d04b858b78c4eae> |
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Starting build 264 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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chris |
http://www.visionmobile.com/bl[…]getting-it-right/ |
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* gmcharlt |
read that initially as "open source community is building a guide to getting it right", and wondered what the scope of "getting it right" could be |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
the joining a community is pretty bang on |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #264: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/264/ |
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hudsonbot |
Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold |
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russ |
chris: that is a good, well referenced article |
00:32 |
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chris |
yep, pointed at by glynn moody, via david friggens |
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richard |
heya russ |
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russ |
howdy |
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druthb |
o/ |
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chris |
heya druthb |
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chris |
while australia are busy being thrashed by england, its the perfect time to watch |
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chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5kUPIbINbE |
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robin |
does it contain the ultimate TV cricket experience? Slow motion replays of people walking away. |
01:12 |
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chris |
heh |
01:26 |
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druthb |
nice video! |
01:31 |
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ricardo |
I have to go to sleep now. Take care! :) |
01:32 |
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chris |
cya ricardo |
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02:14 |
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thd |
chris are you present? |
02:15 |
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chris |
yep |
02:15 |
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thd |
chris: Are you one of the moderators who can approve my koha mailing list message with too many recipients? |
02:15 |
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chris |
which list |
02:16 |
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chris |
if its the main one, then yes |
02:16 |
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thd |
the koha list yes |
02:16 |
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chris |
done |
02:16 |
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thd |
How many recipients is too many? |
02:16 |
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chris |
about 5 |
02:17 |
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chris |
it actually catches a lot of spam |
02:17 |
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thd |
I have exactly 5 including the list itself. |
02:17 |
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chris |
must be 4 then :) |
02:17 |
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chris |
currently it catches people who have had their gmail account owned |
02:18 |
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chris |
and are sending messages saying they are in spain and have lost their passport |
02:19 |
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thd |
I wanted to be certain to give specific attention to two principle opposing advocates and two concerned parties for the OpenNCIP / SIP 2 code issue. |
02:19 |
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chris |
right |
02:19 |
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thd |
opposing meaning on opposite sides from each other. |
02:20 |
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thd |
chris_n: had been the strongest advocate of some upgrade aside from myself. |
02:20 |
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chris |
i want agpl3 |
02:20 |
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chris |
but will settle for gpl3 |
02:21 |
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chris |
and the patent protection it contains |
02:21 |
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chris |
but i dont want to stay gpl2 |
02:21 |
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thd |
Compromise is immoral :) |
02:21 |
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thd |
The patent protection is quite weak |
02:22 |
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chris |
its stronger than what we have now |
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robin |
oh, reminds me. I'm in Spain and I've lost my passport. |
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chris |
heh |
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druthb |
My new gig is as a government official in Nigeria. We're trying to transfer money out of the country, you see, to keep it safe from politcal upheaval. If you help us, you can keep some! :) |
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robin |
druthb: Chris is already busy doing that for some relation of his. |
02:38 |
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druthb |
;-) |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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robin |
g'day |
03:06 |
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Brooke |
how fare ye? |
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chris |
hiya Brooke |
03:07 |
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robin |
good enough for needing a nap. |
03:07 |
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Brooke |
is it opposite day? |
03:08 |
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robin |
yes? no? what's the right answer? |
03:08 |
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Brooke |
whatever one matches good enough for a nap |
03:08 |
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Brooke |
since in my world bad day = nap/ |
03:09 |
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robin |
oh. I meant that it's good, but a nap for a few hours would improve it some. |
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druthb |
hi, Brooke! :) |
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* Brooke |
nods to druthb |
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Amit |
heya all |
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druthb |
hi, Amit! :) |
03:41 |
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Amit |
hi druthb |
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* Brooke |
waves at amit. |
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Amit |
heya Brooke |
03:44 |
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* Brooke |
does not want to hazard a guess at the goings on downstairs. |
03:44 |
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Brooke |
it *sounds* like plumbing |
03:44 |
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Brooke |
but there's a bit of sawing |
03:44 |
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Brooke |
and a bit of chat.... |
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druthb |
a bit late for plumbing activity, other than emergencies, I'd think. |
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Brooke |
then I certainly don't wish to know what's metal and being sawed through... |
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* Brooke |
thinks the word we were missing earlier was "Tenet" or "Tenets" |
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druthb |
hi, Oak! :) |
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Oak |
hiya druthb :) |
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Oak |
\o |
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sunitab |
i would like to generate a report where it will list all titles and copies of those titles hw to generate that report |
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hdl |
sunitab: use the report tool and create an SQL request |
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francharb |
hello all |
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Oak |
hello francharb |
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magnus |
kia ora hdl and #koha |
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hdl |
hi magnus |
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Amit |
hi hdl |
08:04 |
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hdl |
hi Amit. |
08:05 |
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hdl |
Have you received my email. |
08:05 |
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hdl |
I thought I had sent it on 24th December. |
08:05 |
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Amit |
yes rec ur mail |
08:05 |
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Amit |
but in french |
08:05 |
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hdl |
I know it would require translation. It will be done. |
08:05 |
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Amit |
hmm |
08:06 |
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hdl |
I will try to send it today. |
08:07 |
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hdl |
I have tried with google translate. I have the text. Just need to make that fit |
08:07 |
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hdl |
(at least for acquisitions.) |
08:08 |
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hdl |
mainly : purpose is to add Invoice management. |
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hdl |
And search on data wherever possible |
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sunitab |
hi hdl i tried but didnt get can u tell me what fields tobe added |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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magnus |
hiya cait |
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chris |
Evening |
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cait |
hi magnus and chris :) |
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magnus |
good evening, chris |
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cait |
t |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0�C (9:50 AM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
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magnus |
ooh, too bad about the showers |
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chris |
Bit warm for sleeping too |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (10:00 AM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Drizzle. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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magnus |
@wunder helsinki |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -3.0�C (10:50 AM EET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
i'll be there in two weeks, hopefully giving a small talk on "how to contribute to koha" http://lanyrd.com/2011/hmdc/ |
09:25 |
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chris |
Ohh cool |
09:25 |
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chris |
Our last finnish developer set the bar pretty high :) |
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magnus |
hehe |
09:28 |
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magnus |
i think there is some interest in koha in finland, at least on the grassroots level - they have a pretty monopolized library landscape, i think |
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chris |
That'd be cool |
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magnus |
yeah you'd think the home of linus would be into free software... ;-) |
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magnus |
i'll make some slides outlining the whole bug/rfc/git/patch/signoff/etc process maybe over the weekend and post them somewhere so people can have a look and correct me if they want |
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chris |
Sounds like a plan |
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magnus |
:-) |
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cait |
:) |
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larsw |
magnus, nobody is a prophet in their home... or whatever the English version of that saying is; Linus is from Finland, so obviously Finland can't be serious about software freedom |
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magnus |
larsw: yeah, an all too common phenomenon |
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larsw |
magnus, interestingly, I am going to be in Helsinki 19th and 20th (well, leaving on the 20th) |
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magnus |
and koha started in nz so nz libraries should be real sceptical about it... |
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larsw |
magnus, if you have free time at some point, perhaps we should have coffee or lunch or something in Helsinki |
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larsw |
out of curiosity, how are the Koha Debian packages holding up? |
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magnus |
larsw: that would be really cool, i'll arrive some time on the 18th and leave in the evening of the 20th... |
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larsw |
magnus, my schedule while in Helsinki is somewhat unclear still, but could you e-mail me (liwliw.fi) when you know when you have free time? evenings are probably best for me; do you know where you'll be staying? |
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magnus |
larsw: i will stay at rivoli jardin, just south of esplanadi. the conference is at suomenlinna, so we will be "stuck" there most of the time. i'll get in touch when i know when i will arrive etc |
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larsw |
magnus, cool |
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magnus |
yay! |
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druthb |
Hi, magnus! :) |
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magnus |
hiya druthb |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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druthb |
:D howdy, cait! |
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* druthb |
waves to sekjal |
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sekjal |
morning, druthb! |
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cait_a |
morning sekjal :) |
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sekjal |
morning, cait_a! |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (3:00 PM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
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druthb |
@wunder 20852 |
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munin |
druthb: The current temperature in Kemp Mill/Silver Spring, Silver Spring, Maryland is -1.4�C (9:25 AM EST on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (3:20 PM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
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munin |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 10.0�C (7:00 PM PKT on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
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magnus |
what it doesn't mention is the wind in bod�: "Near gale, 15 m/s" |
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* druthb |
hands magnus an anchor, just in case. |
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magnus |
thanks druthb - but this isn't too bad ;-) |
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druthb |
wouldn't want you to blow away! :) |
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magnus |
;-) |
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briceSanc |
Hello all ! |
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briceSanc |
do you use Koha in mod_perl? |
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magnus |
briceSanc, from what i understand there are some problems in the code that makes it unsuited for mod_perl - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Manager#mod_perl |
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jcamins_a |
Is there not a dropdown for searching by place of publication on advanced search? |
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briceSanc |
magnus, ok thanks for the link but nobody try to use it ? |
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jcamins |
briceSanc: I think chris was poking at it. |
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jcamins |
Also BibLibre. |
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briceSanc |
ok |
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magnus |
briceSanc: yes i think people have tried and found memory leaks and other nastiness. but i'm only passing on things i have heard here, maybe hdl could fill us in? |
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thd |
Hello paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello thd |
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magnus |
jcamins: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]xpanded_options=1 Publisher Location? |
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magnus |
kia ora paul_p |
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thd |
Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? |
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jcamins |
magnus: but that doesn't allow you to choose. |
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thd |
Are we not using XML with authority records? |
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jcamins |
I mean, you select "Publisher location" in the dropdown, then have to type in the appropriate abbreviation. |
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magnus |
jcamins: you are looking for a dropdown populated with all the publisher locations actually present in the database? i don't think i have seen that... |
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jcamins |
I thought there was one with all the possibilities. |
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jcamins |
One for all the locations actually present in the database would be *even more amazing*, though. |
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jcamins |
I guess I imagined the publisher location limit. |
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magnus |
"all the possibilities" - wouldn't that be a list of all named places in the world? ;-) |
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jcamins |
No... |
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briceSanc |
magnus, Thank you, I'll keep searching. |
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jcamins |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/countr[…]untries_code.html |
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jcamins |
We could also limit it to the most probable ones, like we do with languages. |
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thd |
jcamins: We could create a value list of likely possibilities |
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thd |
Most publishing is quite concentrated in a few places where the major publishers are. |
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jcamins |
thd: yeah, that was my thought. |
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jcamins |
Well, actually, my thought was that we'd already done that, but clearly I was wrong. |
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magnus |
i guess i was thinking of 260$a... |
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thd |
Eventually we should have a feature for browsing all the place names indexed. |
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jcamins |
thd: agreed. |
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thd |
magnus: It is MARC 21/NORMARC 260 $a about which jcamins has been asking |
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jcamins |
thd: no, I was thinking of 008/15-17. |
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thd |
008 is much easier |
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thd |
008 has a discrete value list |
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jcamins |
thd: yeah, that's why I thought we would have a dropdown. |
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magnus |
yeah, a list of countries is easier to handle then a list of places... ;-) |
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thd |
magnus: Even places in 260 $a are not especially difficult because major publishing is highly concentrated |
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jcamins |
thd: though the rule that says "transcribe" makes early modern books rather challenging. ;) |
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thd |
The difference is merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material |
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thd |
transcription and only transcription for some information is a difficulty |
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gregglind |
so, getting starting on koha dev on osx, feeling a bit overwhelmed. starting at http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ . this reasonable? |
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gregglind |
and I need to install virtualbox too I assume? |
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jcamins |
gregglind: yes, and yes. |
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jcamins |
I have a Mac at home, and run Koha on Debian in VirtualBox for development. |
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thd |
We could do much with place name synonyms using existing geographic authority records |
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gregglind |
I see on that link that one just updates the installation using the usual git stuff. |
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jcamins |
thd: yeah, but that would require better support for authorities. |
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jcamins |
(which would be a very good thing, of course) |
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jcamins |
gregglind: yes, you'll want to use git for updating, so that any developments can be submitted to the community. |
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hdl |
briceSanc: work on memory has not gonne too far at the moment |
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thd |
jcamins: Better support for authorities is essential for finding things well without knowing exactly the right term in advance |
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thd |
hdl: Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? |
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jcamins |
thd: agreed. |
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hdl |
thd: I donot know. I allowed that for us |
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hdl |
no problems |
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briceSanc |
hdl, ok but what is the problem with the memory ? |
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thd |
hdl: You modified rebuildzebra.pl to not stop with both -a and -x? |
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magnus |
briceSanc: i think circular dependencies are a problem - sekjal has been looking at those, i think? |
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sekjal |
I did some work on identifiying which C4 modules used which others, and seeing if there were any cycles within that |
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sekjal |
there definitely are |
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sekjal |
but I'm not sure if it's a problem |
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briceSanc |
Do you have this error with mod_perl : Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects due to probable configuration error. Use 'LimitInternalRecursion' ? |
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thd |
sekjal: Is there an automated means of checking for such cycles? |
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sekjal |
thd: I wrote a script that generates a .dot file, which can be viewed to find cycles |
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sekjal |
that's as fancy as I got |
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thd |
sekjal: What type of file is .dot file? |
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sekjal |
graph |
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hdl |
briceSanc: other problem is with ZOOM. and xslt |
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sekjal |
http://bywatersolutions.com/wp[…]p-new-colored.pdf |
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sekjal |
kind of intimidating... the next generation of my script intended to do some filtering to remove any modules that are not both used and using |
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hdl |
sekjal: have you tried Marc chantreux script ? |
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thd |
hdl: How can XSLT have recursion problems assuming a finite document is being parsed and the upstream parser has no recursion bugs? |
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hdl |
thd: XSLT calls C4::Search And C4::biblio |
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hdl |
and C4::Search is calling C4::XSLT |
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sekjal |
hdl: no, not sure which script you mean. don't have it in my records |
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thd |
hdl: OK C4::* can certainly have problems. |
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hdl |
sekjal: i sent that script onlist some time ago maybe 2 months ago |
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sekjal |
will check |
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sekjal |
ah, found it |
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thd |
good morning nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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thd |
I have a question about the copyright license invocation for the manual |
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thd |
It would be helpful to to follow the text linking to the copyright license with an or later version option clause. |
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thd |
nengard: Do you understand to what I am referring? |
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thd |
nengard are you still here? |
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nengard |
was testing patches |
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nengard |
you want it to say GPL 3 or later? |
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thd |
Yes |
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nengard |
no prob |
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nengard |
will do |
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thd |
There is probably no reason the 3.2 manual will matter in 15 years or whenever GPL 4 comes out but you never know. |
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jcamins |
nengard: don't worry. _I_ think your manual will develop a cult following. ;) |
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thd |
nengard: if jcamins is right then the or later version at your option clause is very important. |
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thd |
nengard: The sacred text of a new cult. The Koha 3.2 manual :) |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
goofy boys |
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thd |
nengard: Ideally there are some timeless sections. |
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* druthb |
looks over at this window, catches up, waves at owen, and laughs a lot. |
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druthb |
nengard, you'll be the high priestess of the cult. have to get you a box to stand on for the "high" part, maybe. ;-) |
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nengard |
ha ha - and i don't want to be a priestess anymore than i want to do any mothering |
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jcamins |
nengard: deity? |
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druthb |
+1 |
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thd |
nengard: My grandmother used to say that I was a goopus. |
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thd |
nengard: have you seen the goops books? |
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jcamins |
Argh! Field 751 is missing? |
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jcamins |
How is 751 missing? |
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* owen |
takes his work on Bug 4354 and dumps it in the garbage |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4354 minor, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Cannot edit existing issuing rules |
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thd |
jcamins: really? |
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jcamins |
thd: I'm not seeing it. |
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* thd |
checks |
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nengard |
hmmm ... i got a strange error pushing the manual ... anyone understand this? |
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nengard |
nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git push |
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nengard |
Counting objects: 27, done. |
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nengard |
Delta compression using up to 2 threads. |
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nengard |
Compressing objects: 100% (14/14), done. |
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nengard |
Writing objects: 100% (14/14), 1.53 KiB, done. |
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nengard |
Total 14 (delta 6), reused 0 (delta 0) |
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nengard |
To gitmastergit.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git |
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nengard |
8ea470c..d47f728 master -> master |
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nengard |
! [rejected] manual3.2.x -> manual3.2.x (non-fast forward) |
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nengard |
error: failed to push some refs to 'gitmastergit.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git' |
16:06 |
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nengard |
To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected |
16:06 |
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nengard |
Merge the remote changes before pushing again. See the 'non-fast forward' |
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nengard |
section of 'git push --help' for details. |
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jcamins |
nengard: yes, you did a git commit --amend after pushing. |
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nengard |
no i didn't .... |
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nengard |
I did a push and got that |
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nengard |
nothing after |
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jcamins |
After your previous push, I mean. Maybe? |
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jcamins |
That's what it means when I get that message. |
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jcamins |
Or it means I've rebased. |
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nengard |
hmmm ... nope, never had to amend on the manual, strange |
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nengard |
do i understand that right that the master was updated but not 3.2.x |
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jcamins |
I think so, yes. |
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nengard |
i'm so confused, it says that i need to merge changes before pushing again .. but i do git status and have no changes to merge |
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owen |
nengard: I see your question about rebasing other people's patches and I'd be happy to write up instructions |
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nengard |
woo hoo :) thanks owen |
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jcamins |
I don't know how to do it, but I think you probably need to pull what's currently in the repository, and then merge your local branch. |
16:13 |
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jcamins |
Not sure how that works exactly, though. |
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nengard |
i did this: git reset --hard origin |
16:13 |
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nengard |
but it says the last commit was the one that failed |
16:13 |
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nengard |
but if you look at the log it's not there ... |
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nengard |
gonna have to ask gmcharlt, chris_n or chris :) |
16:14 |
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magnus |
huh? spam in pootle? http://translate.koha-communit[…]ce&sfields=target |
16:14 |
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jcamins |
magnus: there's a ton of spam in the Russian. |
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cait |
magnus: it has happened before |
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magnus |
ok, i've just been lucky not to see it, then... |
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cait |
I think chris cleaned the files from it |
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thd |
jcamins: 751 subfields may have the wrong values for hidden. |
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chris_n |
nengard: most likely you did some sort of git reset which has messed up the history |
16:17 |
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nengard |
strange, i know that i've never done that on the manual (on my koha git sure - but not the manual) |
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nengard |
so, how do we recover from this? |
16:17 |
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jcamins |
thd: no, they're not in the framework at all. |
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thd |
jcamins: they are in my uncommitted incomplete update of the framework |
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chris_n |
nengard: do you have changes which are not pushed yet? |
16:18 |
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nengard |
yes |
16:18 |
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nengard |
i'm trying to push them and they keep getting rejected |
16:19 |
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nengard |
but it's not a big deal if i lose them |
16:19 |
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nengard |
it's a few characters - i can redo it |
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chris_n |
do this |
16:19 |
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chris_n |
git reset --hard HEAD |
16:20 |
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nengard |
nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git reset --hard HEAD |
16:20 |
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nengard |
HEAD is now at d47f728 add note to licence to encompass future licenses |
16:20 |
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nengard |
which is actually not HEAD for the 3.2.x branch |
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nengard |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]heads/manual3.2.x |
16:20 |
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nengard |
it is the HEAD of the 'master' branch |
16:20 |
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nengard |
nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git branch |
16:20 |
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nengard |
bug5495 |
16:20 |
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nengard |
* manual3.2.x |
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nengard |
master |
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chris_n |
is it the last two commits to master that you want in 3.2.x? |
16:22 |
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chris_n |
you can do 'git log manual3.2.x' to see where the tip is currently in that branch |
16:23 |
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nengard |
it's the last commit to master that i want in 3.2.x (not the last 2) |
16:23 |
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nengard |
wow, strange |
16:24 |
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* chris_n |
hangs on the edge of his desk |
16:24 |
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nengard |
sent you the paste in a private message since it's so long |
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briceSanc |
hdl, magnus, sekjal, thank you for your answers, we will try to debug mod_perl and Koha, Do you have a script to help us? |
16:34 |
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hdl |
briceSanc: The thing we tried is to use wip/Plack branch from wip/koha-biblibre.git |
16:35 |
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briceSanc |
er question: What are the optimizations that can be made to Koha when we have thousands of users simultaneously (approximately 100) ? |
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hdl |
use squid |
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hdl |
there has been an interesting thread about that and answers from mason |
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hdl |
There is also usage of nginx |
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magnus |
there are some hints here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning |
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nengard |
okey dokey chris_n rocks! the manual git repo is back in business |
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chris |
I would recommend against squid, you are using iit as a reverse proxy, when it is designed as a forward proxy |
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nengard |
chris_n++ |
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chris |
It doesn't scale well |
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chris |
If you want a caching reverse proxy varnish is a lot better |
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chris |
(Coming from the hundreds of thousands of concurrent users experience) |
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chris_n |
hmm... I know a researcher who uses 1000+ squids in reverse proxy mode to tap collector data off of CERN |
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chris |
That's forward |
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* chris_n |
may be wrong... an all-to-often-true event |
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chris |
When you are serving content, 1 varnish will outperform 50 squids |
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chris |
When you are sucking content squid wins |
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owen |
When you are serving sashimi, squid wins over varnish. |
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chris |
That's what its designed to do |
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chris |
Using nginx and load balancing over multiple apaches is another way to do it |
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thd |
jcamins: The last upates to the English MARC 21 frameworks in git were not by me and some people had introduced old errors or I could have goofed previously. |
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thd |
jcamins: LibLime was never willing to pay me to verify the accuracy of my own work systematically. |
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thd |
jcamins: I merely fixed errors as I found them but missing 751 is a large error which may have been the result of a careless edit. |
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jcamins |
thd: I submitted a bug, so when I get a chance I'll try to get a patch out. |
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Oak |
heya Brooke :) |
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Brooke |
eyah |
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Oak |
that sounds like a kick |
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thd |
jcamins: I have some incomplete work from 2008 on an update for all the English MARC 21 frameworks but I had run out of time to finish it. |
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jcamins |
thd: and there are all the new RDA fields, too... |
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chris_n |
chris: actually those squids are serving content from two http servers |
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thd |
jcamins: It took about 5 days as in 2008. |
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thd |
jcamins: I cannot commit the current state of that update because it needs some reconciliation with other prior changes to avoid breaking things. |
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chris_n |
http://frontier.cern.ch/squidstats/indexcms.html |
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chris_n |
for anyone interested |
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thd |
jcamins: It is also not self consistent which means more days work. |
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ibot |
okay, thd. |
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jcamins |
ibot: jcamins: it? |
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ibot |
it is long or not self consistent which means more days work. |
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chris |
chris_n: i posit then,he could replce them with 10 varnishes and outpeform his current rig :) |
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thd |
jcamins: The big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff. |
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jcamins |
ibot: forget jcamins: it |
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ibot |
jcamins, I didn't have anything matching jcamins: it |
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jcamins |
ibot: it? |
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ibot |
rumour has it it is long or not self consistent which means more days work |
16:54 |
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jcamins |
ibot: forget it |
16:54 |
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ibot |
jcamins: I forgot it |
16:54 |
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chris_n |
chris: I'll pass the suggestion along :) |
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Brooke |
oh ibot |
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Brooke |
you ensure my jester job security. |
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thd |
jcamins: RDA is becoming important. Does anyone want to sponsor my finishing the update? ;) |
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chris_n |
as another interesting aside, the software which does the data distribution from cern is foss |
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jcamins |
thd: I am of the same mindset as my cataloging instructor... I was hoping to have retired by the time they implemented RDA. |
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chris |
you probably will have |
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druthb |
ibot: Brooke? |
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ibot |
Brooke is important to us!! |
16:57 |
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jcamins |
chris: woohoo! |
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druthb |
hm. |
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Brooke |
ibot: forget brooke |
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ibot |
Brooke: I forgot brooke |
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druthb |
ibot: Brooke? |
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ibot |
wish i knew, druthb |
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thd |
chris: Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl ? BibLibre are using both in a modified version with no apparent problem.? |
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druthb |
It said something about the sweetest little lady south of the Potomac, earlier, Brook. |
16:58 |
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druthb |
*Brooke. |
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chris |
because we dont have that modified version |
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Brooke |
clearly has no idea what it's talking about :P |
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thd |
chris: I had not considered until a moment ago that they may have modified more than rebuildzebra.pl. |
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thd |
chris: What was the reason for not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl ? |
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thd |
s/use/using/ |
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paul_p |
chris, I suspect the patch for this is in BibLibre-various branch [but unsure] |
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paul_p |
[why the hell can't I open a parenthesis under mibbit...] |
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paul_p |
[good morning chris and al though] |
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thd |
paul_p: Do you mean that rebuildzebra.pl is patched in BibLibre-various? |
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paul_p |
thd yes it is |
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hudsonbot |
Nicole C. Engard: add note to licence to encompass future licenses |
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thd |
paul_p: Do you know the original reason for not using both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? |
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paul_p |
thd: nope, definetly. And that's why I'm not sure it's in BibLibre-various {and even not sure it's somewhere. But if it is, it's on git.biblibre.com, definetly} |
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thd |
paul_p: My check shows only 2 unrelated commits on git.biblibre.com for rebuildzebra.pl. |
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paul_p |
so we don't have this anywhere and I don't understand your "BibLibre are using both in a modified version with no apparent problem.?" |
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thd |
paul_p: hdl reported to me earlier today that he allowed both to be used and had no problem. |
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paul_p |
thd I don't know what he was speaking of, sorry |
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paul_p |
I just can promize that everything is on git.biblibre.com, or there's something I don't know ! |
17:10 |
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thd |
paul_p: The question is of indexing authority records in Zebra as MARCXML instead of ISO2709. |
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hdl |
thd must be there |
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hdl |
http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]2c22b63d09b0302cf |
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thd |
hdl: maybe my search was insufficient |
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hdl |
thd: see there is not limitation on authorities for xml |
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hdl |
indexing |
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thd |
hdl: OK, The only thing which concerns me is whether you have no problem because of some other changes. |
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hdl |
I donot think so. I just discoverd it "happened" to work. |
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thd |
hdl: I am presuming the code to stop both switches being used at the same time had originally been added for a good reason. |
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hdl |
(And saw no reason why it should not) |
17:14 |
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hdl |
oh... |
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paul_p |
thd maybe, but you can also presume the reason has disappeared and no on realized it ! |
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hdl |
We still donot use both switches at the same time |
17:15 |
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hdl |
because it still does not work... |
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sekjal |
as I recall, the inability of authorities indexing in XML is the DOM v. GRS-1 issue that authorities have |
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thd |
hdl: OK. Well that is what I was trying to discover. |
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hdl |
oh... unimarc is indexing authorities as GRS1 |
17:16 |
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thd |
hdl: Presumably the problem is in how the *.abs file is configured. |
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sekjal |
I remember dealing with this a long time ago, and it boiled down to unequal DOM support between biblios and authorities |
17:17 |
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sekjal |
but I could be wrong |
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thd |
sekjal: That must be the case but Zebra makes no distinction so it has to be Koha code or Koha Zebra configuration to account for the difference. |
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hdl |
sekjal: is there any DOM support for biblios ? |
17:19 |
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thd |
hdl: There is in tumer's code/fork :) |
17:19 |
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sekjal |
hdl: no, no DOM support for biblios as far as I know |
17:19 |
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sekjal |
thd: I think its just a matter of us writing the right configurations for DOM biblios |
17:19 |
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sekjal |
and no one has had the time yet |
17:20 |
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hdl |
yeah tumer+++++ |
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thd |
sekjal: Yes, I presume something like that to be the issue and hope that there is no hidden problem in Koha code. |
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hdl |
(I had also a dom_config branch) |
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hdl |
using a dom2abs from indexdata. But this dom2abs is not coping with range attributes. |
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hdl |
So 008 and 100$a and all those coded fields would fail. |
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hdl |
I thought I would fix that... But no time |
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hdl |
see http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]efs/heads/dom_wip |
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thd |
hdl: I expect to be improving Solr/Lucene support in future rather than Zebra unless we discover a great problem with Solr/Lucene. |
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paul_p |
thd++ |
17:25 |
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paul_p |
ok, time to go back home and have some time with my loved wife and my 4 small monsters |
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paul_p |
[oups, it's not a monster, it's my children/boy...] |
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paul_p |
;-) |
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thd |
paul_p: I am merely surprised that no one realised the lack of Unicode support for Zebra in 2005. |
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thd |
happy monster hunting paul_p :) |
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sekjal |
time for some lunch. brb |
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thd |
At moment using both -a (index authorities) and |
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thd |
-x (export records as MARC XML) is not allowed - |
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thd |
if the Zebra authority database is using the DOM |
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thd |
filter, zebraidx will not be able to process the |
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thd |
exported records correctly. |
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thd |
http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]c4e8dffde167108bc |
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chris |
nengard: can you fix the clock on the system you send patches from? |
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chris |
its signing off on patches before they have been written (quite confusing) |
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nengard |
chris i try to remember to reset the time when i turn it on, but sometimes forget |
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nengard |
it's not on all of the time |
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chris |
install ntpdate |
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chris |
or ntp |
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chris |
and it will reset the time itself when it boots |
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gregglind |
fwiw, I am getting nowhere on installing the vitual image for koha for virtualbox on osx |
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owen |
gregglind: Why not try installing from scratch? |
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gregglind |
in either vdmk or vdi format. |
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chris |
i would follow the link robin sent yesterday |
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jcamins |
gregglind: I installed from scratch, and it was super easy, so perhaps you'd be better off trying that. |
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gregglind |
I am sooooo lazy though |
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jcamins |
I'd never used the appliances, so I just assumed it would be easier. |
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owen |
Your sense of accomplishment will be empowering |
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gregglind |
owen, I respectfully disagree. |
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nengard |
gregglind i had huge problems too ... and not can't seem to figure out how to get another vm set up so i can have a 3.2 machine and a HEAD machine |
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jcamins |
gregglind: moreover, you won't be so frustrated. |
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gregglind |
I'm not frustrated *yet*, but this sort of thing should be even more streamlineable, which is a bit of critique I realize. |
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gregglind |
I do pretty sophisiticated packaging all day at work so my tolerance for it is quite low :) |
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chris |
well you could use the packages |
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chris |
if you used a real OS :) |
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nengard |
ntpdate installed |
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gregglind |
fair enough. |
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chris |
http://debian.koha-community.org/ |
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gregglind |
but even then would be better to go from source. |
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jcamins |
chris: it would be easy enough to install from the packages under VirtualBox. |
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chris |
yup |
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jcamins |
gregglind: but isn't your goal to run from git so that you can edit it? |
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gregglind |
yes. |
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jcamins |
gregglind: here's my suggestion. |
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jcamins |
Install the latest version of Ubuntu. |
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jcamins |
(on VirtualBox) |
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nengard |
i had dinner with gregglind a few months ago and he was intrigued by Koha |
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jcamins |
Have a coffee. |
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jcamins |
Or six. |
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jcamins |
It took ages to download for me. |
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gregglind |
or rather, 'continue my day job' |
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jcamins |
Anyway. |
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gregglind |
I can do it all from there. |
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chris |
id still install koha-common |
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gregglind |
I am still learning how to set up the vbox |
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chris |
that pulls in all your dependencies |
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chris |
then do a git clone |
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gregglind |
ah, that is wise, for deps |
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chris |
and install koha from there, that way you dont monkey around |
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jcamins |
chris: that's why I was suggesting Ubuntu. |
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chris |
squeeze will work better |
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jcamins |
Everything's already in the packages. |
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chris |
everythings in packages, and in main, (not multiverse) |
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chris |
hence being checked by debian security people |
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jcamins |
chris: but don't you have to upgrade Debian to Squeeze still? |
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gregglind |
how much ram will I really need? |
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chris |
jcamins: you can just install squeeze now |
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jcamins |
gregglind: at least 1GB for your host. |
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jcamins |
chris: really?!? Awesome! |
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jcamins |
gregglind: I have 4GB, so I have the VirtualBox using 512. |
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jcamins |
gregglind: to clarify, that's at least 1GB *total* RAM on the host. |
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chris |
jcamins: yeah you just get the iso for it |
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gregglind |
Ah, I meant for the vbox :) 512 is what I was going to do. |
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jcamins |
chris: neat. Last time I tried, I had to install Lenny and then upgrade. |
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gregglind |
so any consensus here? Debian (which one?) vs. Ubuntu? |
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jcamins |
gregglind: Debian Squeeze. |
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gregglind |
I assume we don't need to track bleeding edge Postgres or anything :) |
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chris |
jcamins: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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chris |
id go with the netinst version there |
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gregglind |
Oy! |
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gmcharlt |
slef: will any of the libraries you're working with participate in the union catalog of UK public libraries that OCLC just announced? |
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gregglind |
okay, so I made an image for virtualbox, now I have to go find an installer and go through normal debian install? |
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gregglind |
is that really what the next step is? |
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jcamins |
gregglind: yep. |
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jcamins |
thd: around? |
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gregglind |
okay, maybe I will try this again later. |
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owen |
Are the UBUNTU install instructions accurate with regard to the current recommended way to run zebra? |
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chris |
what does it say owen? |
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chris |
use the cron job? |
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jcamins |
They say to use rebuild_zebra, but the instructions don't tell people about the new markings file. |
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chris |
new markings file? |
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jcamins |
Uhhh... |
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owen |
"it's recommended that you daemonize the Zebra process and add it to your startup profile." |
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jcamins |
Maybe I imagined it. |
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jcamins |
I can't find the bug. |
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jcamins |
No, I didn't. |
18:12 |
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jcamins |
Bug 5520. |
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chris |
owen: yes that bit is right |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick |
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jcamins |
The instructions should be updated for that. I didn't think of that until owen asked just now. |
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chris |
owen: its just the rebuild_zebra bit you dont want daemonized |
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owen |
Okay, thanks, I always get confused there |
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chris |
yeah, its tricky |
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chris |
jcamins: good point |
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briceSanc |
hdl, magnus, chris, thanks for your answers! |
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np |
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magnus |
program from muriwai beach, nz on norwegian tv right now - don't think i'll ever go for a swim there... |
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chris |
heh |
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jcamins |
Time to close up here. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha. |
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* chris |
goes to catch his bus |
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chris |
bbiab |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e890fcc7d75730353> / Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f862c75fcc440d00> |
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Starting build 72 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 1 mo 0 days ago) |
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chris |
Back |
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nengard |
welcome back |
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chris |
Another quiet bus ride |
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chris |
Most ppl still on holiday it seems |
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magnus |
yeah, that was quick ;-) |
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chris |
Still on the bus but no one else is |
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magnus |
ah |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_3.2.x build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/72/ |
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hudsonbot |
* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long |
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* chris_n |
pushes a fix to make hudson happy again |
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chris_n |
!hudson build koha_3.2.x now |
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hudsonbot |
chris_n: job koha_3.2.x build scheduled now |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 73 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 1 mo 0 days ago) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
Ok my stop bbiab |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Removing OPACNoResultsFound Enhancement Syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8b5488dceddb19a5> / Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f4cc5045786607473> |
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chris_n |
!hudson botsnack fresh ground coffee |
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hudsonbot |
chris_n: great! yum yum. how did you know that fresh ground coffee is my favorite food? |
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chris_n |
errr |
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chris_n |
maybe drink? |
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nengard |
hehe |
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magnus |
chris_n: you didn't specify that the coffe had been brewed, just ground... ;-) |
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druthb |
eeeeeewwwwwww |
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nengard |
is hudson that smart? |
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magnus |
!hudson botsnack freshly brewed coffee |
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hudsonbot |
magnus: you're so kind to me! I could eat freshly brewed coffee all day long |
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magnus |
nope ;-) |
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drotsk |
neat |
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drotsk |
o/ |
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hudsonbot |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_3.2.x build #73: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/73/ |
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hudsonbot |
* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl |
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hudsonbot |
* Chris Nighswonger: Removing OPACNoResultsFound Enhancement Syspref |
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chris |
back |
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druthb |
!hudson botsnack well-sauteed mailing-list trolls |
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hudsonbot |
druthb: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I could eat well-sauteed mailing-list trolls all day long |
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* druthb |
giggles |
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* owen |
prepares his stack of nominations for the next snack |
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* magnus |
wonders if "sudo" is needed for "make install" even when the install is a dev one into the users own home directory? just curious... |
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chris |
if it does any chown at all |
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chris |
then yes |
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magnus |
and it probably does lots of stuff like that behind the scenes... |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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chris |
hi Brooke |
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magnus |
\o/ Brooke |
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Brooke |
:D |
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* Brooke |
feels the love. |
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* Brooke |
waves to darling and davi |
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* drotsk |
waves to Brooke |
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* darling |
waves back |
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* wizzyrea |
feels like she's at a large sports event and the peoples are doing the wave |
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darling |
ooo |
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drotsk |
hi darling |
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* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea, so she doesn't feel left out. |
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davi |
I do not know how to swim |
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* darling |
sees a line of little desk cameras so we can try that |
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larsw |
h, darling, long time no see |
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darling |
larsw ! |
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davi |
I do not like the water |
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Brooke |
we'd have to time it with latency. |
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davi |
I hope I do not break a waves party :) |
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darling |
larsw, did you see I cited you for loving thoughts? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pment_Environment |
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darling |
er, target for |
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larsw |
darling, I didn't! I don't follow Koha much these days, just #koha occasionally :( |
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larsw |
though just the other day I was wondering how the Debian packages of Koha are doing :) |
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darling |
doing very nicely, robin's been keeping them live |
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larsw |
excellent |
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larsw |
give robin a cake :) |
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darling |
and I've even been making packages myself on other projects (new wrms build) |
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larsw |
debian packages ftw ! |
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darling |
yep |
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larsw |
is there any movement towards getting the Koha .debs into Debian itself? |
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larsw |
once Debian gets the current development version released |
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darling |
no idea |
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chris |
yep, we are slowly working on tidying up copyright statements |
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* Brooke |
sneezes *Ubuntu* |
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larsw |
Ubuntu is one of the lovely children of Debian :) |
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darling |
I'm a little less up on things, have moved to L2 |
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Brooke |
aye it is |
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darling |
Ubuntu is tacky |
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darling |
I like it less each day |
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larsw |
mostly, anything people want to get into ubuntu is best uploaded into Debian first, so everyone benefits |
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darling |
it makes me feel old |
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larsw |
darling, L2, eh |
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darling |
larsw, yep -- I'm no long the Fairfax guy |
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darling |
which is pretty exciting and relazxing |
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darling |
(I still can't type tho) |
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larsw |
darling, then I congratulate you :) |
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darling |
thanks |
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larsw |
got to go now, be happy everyone :) |
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Brooke |
cheers |
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darling |
bye! great to see you |
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Brooke |
wb owen |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal++ |
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* sekjal |
looks around, confused |
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wizzyrea |
for 5586 |
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* chris_n |
hands sekjal a cup of java |
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sekjal |
thanks, chris_n. we've been out of coffee here for a couple days |
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sekjal |
just drank my last energy drink, hoping it will kick in soon |
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chris_n |
time to play catchup with chris ;-) |
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magnus |
bug 5586 |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9dd0024ef94980d5b> / Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38ec20e4df7956a19> / bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5586 normal, P5, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, SIP line-endings should use proper SPEC-compliant \r |
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sekjal |
and 5586 is all Joe Atzberger's work. I just signed off and published it per his request |
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wizzyrea |
either way |
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sekjal |
(and tested, of course) |
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wizzyrea |
it's very helpful |
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Brooke |
that sounds like a jorb for the food exchange, sekjal |
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Brooke |
what sort of machine do you use? |
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sekjal |
Brooke: coffee machine? French Press |
20:50 |
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Brooke |
do you have a grinder or do you use the preground shtuff? |
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chris_n |
in that case Bodum is your friend |
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chris_n |
http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/home.asp?CHK=1288 |
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sekjal |
Brooke: grinder |
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sekjal |
basic KRUPS model |
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Brooke |
good man |
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chris_n |
fresh grind is the *only* way to go :) |
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sekjal |
our CSA hasn't done deliveries for the last two weeks; normally, locally roasted coffee shows up at our door |
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Brooke |
lemme know if yer fix doesn't show soon and I'll send ye a care package. |
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* chris_n |
suddenly feels a craving for a cup of coffee |
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sekjal |
thanks, Brooke! |
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Brooke |
pfft thank me if I actually do anything. |
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sekjal |
back on Koha business, anyone recall if the 610 field is indexed in the subject index? |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]039dd19d15ae1f4fe> / Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]811164b6c35fe585b> / bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
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hudsonbot |
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magnus |
sekjal: melm 610 Name,Subject,Corporate-name http://git.koha-community.org/[…].abs;hb=HEAD#l162 |
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owen |
We need a mailing list autoresponder for the phrase "koha on windows" |
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drotsk |
ha |
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chris |
heh |
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Brooke |
don't let me write it ;) |
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chris |
"yeah ... nah" |
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Brooke |
holy cannoli, 848 to NZ over at Air NZ. |
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chris |
from? |
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Brooke |
LAX or San Fran |
21:14 |
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Brooke |
it's *always* LAX or San Fran to Aucklame |
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nengard |
that's a nice deal |
21:14 |
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Brooke |
indeed. |
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chris |
well you can get cheap ones on virgin aus |
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chris |
lax to wlg |
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chris |
every so often |
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* Brooke |
would prefer never to pass through Oz again if poss. |
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nengard |
chris i know! I got one of those :) |
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nengard |
but it wsn't that cheap |
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chris |
laurel got a 999$ nz one |
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which is probably a bit less than that |
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don't all talk at once :P |
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:) |
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hudsonbot to the rescue, Brooke |
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:) |
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time to go, and I didn't even get to my Action! Item! yet. |
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yep something in there broke one of the tests too |
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eh oh |
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REGRESSION ALERT |
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http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]able__branch__OK/ |
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in big red letters |
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Brooke |
Boozho! |
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hmm works locally |
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chris |
worked at the commandline there too |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5006 - Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8fea1eb544cee78f4> |
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Brooke |
eeep |
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Brooke |
look at the time |
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cheers |
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goodnight, #koha! |
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@wunder 93109 |
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@wunder 93109 |
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@wunder 06516 |
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Michael |
Hey Gang. Michael here (NCAR Library in Boulder) |
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chris |
hi Michael |
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Michael |
I gots questions. |
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Michael |
hi Chris |
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Michael |
I'm trying to make sense of Koha's Acquisitions features. (Funds, baskets, orders, etc) |
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chris |
what version of Koha are you looking at 3.2.2 ? |
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Michael |
I'm hoping someone can direct me to some instructional resources. (the Koha manual doesn't go into much detail) |
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Michael |
let's see...3.2.2 i think. |
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chris |
(the about page will tell you) |
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Michael |
ah, here we go. 3.01.00.145 |
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chris |
ahh thats an oldish one |
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Michael |
meaning that acquisitions has changed somewhat since? |
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chris |
bound to have had bug fixes and stuff .. are you running a prerelease of 3.2.0? |
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chris |
(its pre 3.2.0 .. so 3 versions ago) |
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and which manual are you looking at? |
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is just trying to figure out the best place to point you at, but first need to know what you have already looked at ;) |
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Michael |
Well, I guess i've been kind of "version ignorant"... |
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Michael |
i've likely been perusing this manual: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2 |
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chris |
yeah dont |
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Michael |
or this http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ |
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chris |
koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
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Michael |
(same?) |
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chris |
no, koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
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Michael |
oh, okay. that's where my bookmark goes, actually. |
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Michael |
we're set up with a Training email list, so I really should post some questions on there. Just thought I'd pop on here first for some reason. |
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chris |
yep here is a good resource, if you have read the manual then probably the next place to look is the wiki |
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Michael |
okay |
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Michael |
I'll browse the wiki, and post some questions on our Training list. |
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chris |
cool, who's your support provider if you dont mind me asking? |
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Michael |
Thanks for getting me straight as to versions...I suppose we ought to look into upgrading soon from 3.01.00 |
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chris |
bywater solutions have done some good video tutorials |
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chris |
yeah 3.1.x was unstable releases |
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Michael |
esilibrary |
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chris |
the second number should be even |
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chris |
ahh, they are good people too |
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chris |
they'll be able to help you out |
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Michael |
cool, thx chris |
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signing off |
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chris |
heres one |
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http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=677 |
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Michael |
k |
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chris |
i find the videos quite useful tools |
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chris |
thast the only acquisitions one i could find though |
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Michael |
great, thanks |
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heya atz |
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