IRC log for #koha, 2010-12-14

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00:15 hudsonbot Starting build 210 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 3 hr ago)
00:17 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2170 Supplementary Fix Wrap link in permissions check <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b64952d3b29adf0d1> / Updated fix for Bug 2170, Adding 'edititems' user-permission <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cfee6c84d02bd8e7d> / Bug 5484 - Handling bad borrower categories in serial routing lists more gracefully <http:/
00:17 chris yeah buddy!
00:17 Brooke Time to corrupt a few more sissy epee fencers to come to the dark side of the Sabre.
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00:18 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0EZ1tE2FrI
00:23 druthb uhm....
00:23 * druthb worries about chris occasionally.
00:23 chris you've never seen space ghost coast to coast?
00:24 chris or the brak show?
00:24 chris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]st_Coast_to_Coast
00:25 druthb Oh, I've seen them, yes.
00:25 robin don't call me buddy, pal.
00:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #210: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/210/
00:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3381 - Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference
00:36 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5484 - Handling bad borrower categories in serial routing lists more gracefully
00:36 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Updated fix for Bug 2170, Adding 'edititems' user-permission
00:36 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 2170 Supplementary Fix Wrap link in permissions check
00:44 brendan yeah buddy
00:57 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2965: Allow due date in the past <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6282e1726a0a74969> / Fix for Bug 5000, Uncertain prices misses option to choose display language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd457670c4aef2bb3> / Variable redeclared in same scope <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff;
00:57 chris thats my inbox empty
00:58 chris 247 bugs to check now
00:58 chris (ones with patch-sent but no status and still open)
01:00 hudsonbot Starting build 211 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 4 hr ago)
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01:23 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #211: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/211/
01:23 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 4252 add authorites permission to menus
01:23 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5255 change 'document type' to 'item type'
01:23 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Variable redeclared in same scope
01:23 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5000, Uncertain prices misses option to choose display language
01:23 hudsonbot * Srdjan Jankovic: Bug 2965: Allow due date in the past
01:40 robin http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FN2C2W <-- light reading for tonight
01:45 chris heh
01:50 * druthb picked up a couple of new trashy romance novels over the weekend.
01:50 chris http://www.wheelers.co.nz/book[…]tus=international
01:50 robin oh crap, I need to go buy the sequel of the book I'm reading before I finish it, as apparently it has a cliffhanger at the end.
01:50 chris help pay for my dads computer game habit
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02:06 darling chris, did you know you can tell hudson bot to do things? (I accidentally freaked out the one on #wrmsdev a little)
02:06 darling it makes sense but was just a little unexpected
02:06 chris yes
02:06 chris !hudson status
02:06 hudsonbot status of all projects:
02:06 darling is cool
02:06 hudsonbot Koha_3.0.x: last build: 2 (1 mo 14 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/
02:06 hudsonbot Koha_3.2.x: last build: 57 (1 day 6 hr ago): UNSTABLE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/57/
02:06 hudsonbot Koha_Master: last build: 211 (1 hr 6 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/211/
02:06 darling ahahashs
02:06 darling it's talking
02:06 darling spooky
02:06 darling I don't know why I don't like thaty
02:07 chris !hudson build koha_master now
02:07 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now
02:07 hudsonbot Starting build 212 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 5 hr ago)
02:07 darling i like my softwares like I like my govts -- dumb and predictable
02:07 darling is cool tho
02:08 druthb !hudson botsnack cookie
02:08 hudsonbot druthb: you're so kind to me! how did you know that cookie is my favorite food?
02:08 darling heheheheh
02:08 druthb !chris:  chrissnack beer
02:09 darling that scary/happys me
02:09 darling hmm.. chrisbeerbot's broke
02:10 chris heh
02:17 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5084 - hide funds that are part of an inactive budget <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3871a4d35a70a1d7>
02:19 druthb ibot: darling?
02:19 ibot i think darling is a little confused tho because it didn't _come_ with beer
02:19 druthb no, darling is nervous around bots.
02:19 druthb ibot: darling?
02:19 ibot darling is probably a little confused tho because it didn't _come_ with beer
02:20 * druthb scratches her head.
02:20 druthb ibot:  darling?
02:20 ibot darling is, like, a little nervous around bots
02:21 druthb :)
02:21 * druthb is silly sometimes, but only on days that end in Y.
02:24 druthb ibot:  jcamins?
02:24 ibot i heard jcamins was supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant.
02:28 darling beer?
02:29 druthb Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.
02:29 druthb beer?
02:29 ibot it has been said that beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.
02:29 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #212: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/212/
02:30 hudsonbot Starting build 213 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 5 hr ago)
02:32 druthb ibot:  american beer?
02:32 ibot somebody said american beer was a waste of a perfectly good can.
02:34 * druthb heads to bed early.   see y'all soon!
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02:47 * chris starts to get bored of updating bugs
02:47 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=4464#c5
02:47 munin Bug 4464: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Editing a record with a 245a triggers warning about 245 is mandatory
02:51 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #213: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/213/
02:51 hudsonbot Robin Sheat: Bug 5084 - hide funds that are part of an inactive budget
02:52 hudsonbot Starting build 214 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 6 hr ago)
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03:10 chris http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]atus-of-300-bugs/
03:14 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #214: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/214/
03:23 brendan_l brendan?
03:23 ibot brendan is around - not currently though
03:23 brendan_l heh - gotta change that one sometime ibot
03:23 chris heh
03:23 chris brendan_l: link has been updated :-)
03:25 Brooke ibot: be druthb
03:25 ibot Harrumph!
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03:49 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=3731#c2
03:49 munin Bug 3731: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, overdues csv & windows
03:54 chris http://leephillips2.wordpress.[…]good-and-the-bad/  <-- this post confusinates me
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03:56 jcamins Good night (again), #koha.
03:57 chris night jcamins
04:07 chris right im bugged out, so im bugging out
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04:38 chris Kapow from the bus
04:39 Brooke Piro rawa atu!
04:41 chris Not too harsh but deserved I think
04:41 chris Hosting an old an corrupt file for this long feels like sabotage
04:41 richard heh
04:48 Brooke Ka kite anō.
04:48 chris Po marie
04:48 Brooke :)
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05:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e0de07bfe3e3230b> / Bug 3381 - Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]14dc3d6d2ecae46ec> / (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0fac653ad11e7f058
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05:13 cait hi #koha
05:13 cait chris: how much sugar?
05:14 chris Did you read my blogpost :)
05:15 hudsonbot Starting build 58 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 7 days 6 hr ago)
05:19 cait yep
05:19 cait don't eat more, ok? I am all for sugar... but you had enough!
05:19 cait ;)
05:21 cait and you even name branches after me
05:22 cait let's find out if I want to go outside...
05:22 cait @wunder Konstanz
05:22 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.7�C (6:20 AM CET on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling).
05:22 cait nope
05:26 cait chris: I think I forgot to git add my last change to due date in the past :(
05:26 chris Oh?
05:26 cait it's only an additional < in the template, showing up before the barcode field box
05:27 chris Just send it along and ill push it up
05:27 cait checking patch now, wondered why I still had changes on the branch
05:27 cait will send
05:27 cait sorry
05:31 cait done
05:35 chris Will push when kids asleep
05:35 cait right, still early evening for you :)
05:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #58: STILL UNSTABLE in 20 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/58/
05:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5423: Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers
05:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.002
05:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5391 - can't add multiples to batch
05:36 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4173 - Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
05:36 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5443, Inaccurate highlighting of fields in patron update email
05:36 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Update Debian changelog for 3.2.1 release
05:36 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4218 - Staff client detail page does not show item hold status
05:36 hudsonbot * Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #5154) fix most checkouts report
05:36 hudsonbot * Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl
05:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3381 - Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference
05:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.003
05:36 brendan_l heya cait - hey chris
05:37 cait hi brendan :)
05:37 cait have you got some sleep now?
05:39 cait ibot: brendan?
05:39 ibot brendan is around - not currently though
05:43 cait ibot: brendan is like never sleeping
05:43 ibot ...but brendan is around - not currently though...
05:43 cait I am too tired to argue with you ibot
05:47 cait chris: my koha update is unhappy :(
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05:47 brendan_l yes I have gotten some sleep - almost time to go to bed again :)
05:49 cait updatedatabase is missing a curly bracket?
05:49 cait don't see it :(
05:49 chris Hmmm will look in a sec
05:50 chris Seemed ok on my test
05:50 cait updated from 8 to 9
05:50 chris But bathing kids now can't look
05:51 cait it's ok
05:52 cait perhaps Tuesdays are the new mondays?
05:53 ronald hi all i've just install koha 3.2 but i have problems with the opac, it gives no results when i tried searching my catalogue
05:54 ronald any ideas?
05:55 chris Have you checked the faq?
05:55 chris Faq?
05:55 ibot rumour has it Faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
05:56 chris I think there is stuff about searxching there
06:06 ronald thanks for the link, i have one more qs what is Suppress index and how do I set it up in Zebra?
06:08 cait chris: found the missing bracket, sending patch
06:09 cait if you are on a fresh install and have not activated opacsuppression in administration it should be ok
06:09 cait have you chosen zebra or nozebra during install?
06:09 cait is your zebrasrv running?
06:10 ronald I've chosen zebra on installation
06:10 ronald my opac suppression is set to hidden
06:16 chris Searching works in staff?
06:19 ronald unfortunately no
06:20 cait ronals: reset to Don't hide
06:20 cait chris: patch for updatedatabase and one sign-off send
06:21 chris And you have zebrasrv running and have run rebuild_zebra.pl or have it set as a cronjob?
06:21 chris Ta cait
06:29 ronald how do i know my zebrasrv is running
06:30 chris did you follow the instructions for setting it up?
06:30 chris ps axf | grep "zebrasrv"
06:31 chris cait: pushed the fix for the updatedatabse, can you check please
06:36 ronald hi all thanks i have to go home now we'll try again tomorrow.
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06:38 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Possible fix for Bug 2307, Calendar widget cannot be translated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48898a2efed159b8a> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_2965' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5fd7b9b61d25373c5> / Bug 2965: Allow due date in the past - small template fix <http://git.koha-community.org/g
06:40 chris fredericd: thanks for the bug update :)
06:44 cait chris: will try
06:45 hudsonbot Starting build 215 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 10 hr ago)
06:45 fredericd chris: np. I'm trying now to pickup bug 4374. But it is 946 patches back from HEAD...
06:45 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4374 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Data entry form doesn't use hidden/mandatory flag as expected
06:46 chris ahh that might take a bit of rebasing  :) cherry-pick might be the easiest
06:46 fredericd chris: and thanks a lot for cleaning the patch queue. You're showing us how it could work...
06:47 fredericd yes, rebasing fails when cherry-picking is ok
06:47 cait yep, great work chris :)
06:47 cait really love to look at git
06:47 cait not only because my name appears there ;)
06:50 chris 200 bugs left to set status for
06:50 chris then will have caught up
06:51 chris and should be able to track the status of patches better
06:51 cait wow, you are much faster than me
06:51 chris can even do reports
06:51 cait reports++
06:51 chris cait: im not testing, just setting a status
06:51 cait yeah,b ut still you are fast :)
06:51 chris like the average time it takes a patch to go from patch-sent to patch pushed
06:52 chris and other meaningless stats :)
06:52 * cait loves meaningless stats
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07:00 Oak \o
07:07 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #215: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/215/
07:07 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Add missing bracket to updatedatabase.pl
07:07 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 2965: Allow due date in the past - small template fix
07:07 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Possible fix for Bug 2307, Calendar widget cannot be translated
07:15 hudsonbot Starting build 216 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 10 hr ago)
07:18 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for intranet-tmpl had one /TMPL_IF to many <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06173973eb73d6ce0> / Fixes bug 5125: Default focus on circulation-home page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6cedfe927b9fd7fa>
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07:38 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5033: Add a reference to xml_sax to the Makefile.PL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c839b9cb087231ec5>
07:39 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #216: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/216/
07:39 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Fixes bug 5125: Default focus on circulation-home page
07:39 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fix for intranet-tmpl had one /TMPL_IF to many
07:40 hudsonbot Starting build 217 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 10 hr ago)
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08:05 hudsonbot Robin Sheat: bug 5033: Add a reference to xml_sax to the Makefile.PL
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08:13 chris http://twitter.com/#!/paulwait[…]14588684753960960  <-- one of the catalyst directors
08:15 hudsonbot Starting build 218 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 11 hr ago)
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08:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'colin/QA/bug_4506' into new/enh/bug_4506 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fa7adce2890c51e2a>
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08:28 kf hi #koha
08:29 chris checkout what just got pushed kf
08:29 kf ok
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08:30 ivanc hi #koha
08:30 kf hi ivanc
08:30 kf give me a second chris
08:31 ivanc hi kf
08:32 kf chris: wow!
08:32 kf you pushed bug 4506
08:32 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w
08:33 chris thank colin, he did qa on it
08:33 kf will try to test later - but perhaps will have to wait until tomorrow :(
08:33 kf a lot of things going on here right now and have to get out some important mails
08:33 kf I will do :)
08:34 kf chris: silly question... but can you update ohloh?
08:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #218: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/218/
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add index Record-control-number = rcn for indexing of $w subfields
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: BUG 4506: Add 8xx $w subfields to MARC-Frameworks en, fr-FR
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: BUG 4506: Add 8xx $w subfields to MARC-Frameworks pl-PL
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Some work on article to serial links
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: BUG 4506: Add 8xx $w subfields to MARC-Frameworks de-DE
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: New icon for sets
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add set > volume link
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add volume > set link
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add links to other editions, some minor corrections
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Traced series
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add link to volumes of traced series to series record
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add rcn links to 780 and 785
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Add rcn links to host item entry = 773
08:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4506: Correct wrong links in intranet
08:36 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Remove some whitespace from earlier commit
08:38 chris kf: update what on ohloh?
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08:52 kf the repo / commits list
08:53 kf http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/commits
08:53 chris no
08:54 chris http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/enlistments
08:56 chris sometimes it just gets out of date
08:56 chris it usually catches up again eventually
08:57 kf ah ok
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11:05 brendan morning
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11:17 Oak moring brendan
11:18 brendan :)
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11:38 kf_mtg hi brendan and Oak
11:38 Oak hello kf_mtg :)
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12:18 brendan .msg USERSERV login brendan hopuceth
12:18 brendan shit
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14:10 schuster nengard around?  I was looking at your blog post on "New features for 3.2" and the links to documentation are broken?
14:10 schuster http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=c7770
14:10 nengard thanks schuster
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14:10 nengard i think that's probably cause of the changes we've made to the manual recently
14:10 nengard i'll update
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14:11 schuster Ah - ok - I know it was an old blog post(if October can be old!)...
14:11 schuster So just checking...  I'm trying to explore more about Acq...
14:14 nengard which section was that supposedly linking to? I can get you the new url
14:15 schuster Enhancements to Acquisitions including those that allow for ordering over Z39.50 and from a staged marc file
14:16 nengard http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x9510#AEN9513
14:16 nengard so yeah - the urls have changed in appearance
14:16 nengard that's kinda a issue
14:17 schuster Sorry to hear that..  Thanks for the link.
14:17 nengard @later tell wizzyrea how are the updates to the yukky manual urls coming? we're finding that links to the manual from just 2 months ago aren't working today :(
14:17 munin nengard: The operation succeeded.
14:17 schuster How do you feel the acq system is now in handling multiple branches?  That was a problem I saw before as it was more of a one branch system.
14:18 nengard I need more explanation ... what about having multiple branches was hard? The budgeting? Or finding orders? or something else?
14:18 schuster I'm thinking of selection lists that are put out and multiple people can select from it and then we do a central order..  Ordering and selection.
14:19 nengard oh! yeah that's still an issue - each order is linked to one branch - can't order for multiple branches on one order
14:19 nengard wait
14:19 nengard .... now that i say that i'm thinking i'm wrong :)
14:20 nengard nope, i'm right :)
14:20 schuster Ok I was going to be quite shocked...
14:20 nengard each orderline can come from a differnt fund, but each fund is linked to only one branch so you can't do orders for multiple branches in one basket
14:21 nengard BibLibre folks might be able to tell me if there is something I missed
14:21 schuster That's something that has held us back from actually using the acq module for our large ordering projects.
14:21 nengard yeah i can understand
14:21 schuster Thanks!  You saved me a bunch of time this morning!
14:21 nengard :)
14:22 nengard glad to help, now i have to update these posts ... i thinking maybe I might have to just remove the links cause they could change yet again :(
14:22 schuster :(
14:27 * owen kinda feels like Bug 5009 is a browser configuration issue rather than a bug
14:27 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5009 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, add autocomplete="off" to borrowernumbers and barcode forms
14:27 owen Anyone else have an opinion?
14:28 nengard owen - agreed
14:30 nengard owen, how hard to you think bug 5491 will be?
14:30 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5491 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, list pull downs limited to 10
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14:31 owen nengard: Do you mean Bug 3523? ;)
14:31 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10
14:31 nengard LOL
14:31 nengard i guess i do :)
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14:31 mib_mike Hi guys.
14:31 ibot Hi guys. is there a way to attach an item to a library branch other using the 952$b tag. I have created two libraries and every item in our catalog is mapped to a particular librarie using the code I created for that library. when I search all seems to be fine. Just that I can not seem to get refined search by library to work
14:32 owen ibot: forget Hi guys.
14:32 ibot owen, I didn't have anything matching hi guys
14:32 * owen shrugs
14:32 owen nengard: I really don't know how hard it will be to fix. I haven't pondered the implementation
14:33 mib_mike I've got a file full of data that needs to be turned into item records.  Is there an easy way to do that, or do I have to roll my own?
14:34 nengard what kind of file?
14:34 schuster mib_mike - can you further explain?
14:34 nengard marcedit can convert many file times to marc records
14:35 mib_mike comma delimited text.
14:35 nengard marcedit can do that
14:35 mib_mike When I added the data to the koha items table, it didn't show up in the cataloge
14:35 schuster Yep... Marc Edit - how did you link it to the Biblio?
14:36 mib_mike I added filled in biblionumber and biblioitemnumber fields to match the bilio record.
14:36 nengard there is also the biblioitems table
14:36 nengard so there is biblio, items, and biblioitem
14:37 nengard that are all filled when importing data
14:37 nengard so i recommend using marcedit to generate a marc file
14:37 nengard and using the import utility instead
14:37 nengard that will put data in all the right places
14:37 nengard and it can import only items if youw ant it to
14:37 schuster I hesitate ever doing anything directly to the tables - I always overlook a trigger or link someplace.
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14:38 mib_mike thanks guys where can I find "the import utility"
14:39 mib_mike Stage marc records for import?
14:40 mib_mike O.K. I think I've got it.  Thanks everyone!
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14:41 briceSanc hello !
14:42 briceSanc Could i have problems with Koha if i add " HH:MM:SS" in the ISO format of C4/Dates.pm ?
14:46 owen Seeking opinions again: http://screencast.com/t/8FyibzKmdM
14:46 owen I find it odd that "older" points to the right and "newer" points to the left
14:46 owen (this is re: Bug 4892)
14:46 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4892 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Make the accounts page page, so that the list of records doesn't end up being huge.
14:48 nengard agree - it should be the other way around
14:54 magnus +1
14:57 schuster +2
15:03 * owen must be a Bugzilla nerd because he's digging the new patch statuses
15:03 brendan owen++
15:04 nengard new patch statuses?
15:04 nengard i have missed something ...
15:04 owen "needs signoff", "patch pushed" etc.
15:04 nengard oh check that out! I just found it :)
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15:05 owen It's great because now you can search for stuff that "needs signoff" and look for stuff you feel qualified to test
15:06 owen Or you can look for stuff that is "patch pushed" which you reported and mark as fixed
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15:11 owen If anyone agrees with me on Bug 2981 I would very much appreciate a signoff.
15:11 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2981 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Misleading interface for selecting patron from circulation search results
15:12 nengard owen - i'll do that
15:13 owen Thank you nengard
15:15 nengard owen done
15:16 nengard and sent
15:16 nengard attaching patch and updating status
15:16 owen nengard++
15:17 nengard np :)
15:19 brendan @karma nengard
15:19 munin brendan: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 131 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 131.
15:19 brendan wow you go nengard
15:19 brendan @wunder 93117
15:19 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 8.9�C (7:19 AM PST on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). Dense fog advisory in effect until 10 am PST this morning...
15:19 nengard @wunder 19030
15:19 munin nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -6.1�C (10:21 AM EST on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady).
15:19 nengard sorry brendan - but i hate you :(
15:19 nengard you need to pay for me to relocate to CA :) hehe
15:20 brendan ouch
15:20 nengard hehe :) you know i'm kidding
15:23 nengard brendan++ #for being an awesome boss :)
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15:30 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
15:30 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (4:20 PM CET on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
15:32 nengard magnus - okay something is wrong here - it should not be colder here than in NORWAY!!
15:33 magnus nengard: yeah, that does seem out of whack ;-)
15:33 magnus @wunder lillehammer, norway
15:33 munin magnus: The current temperature in Oppland, Lillehammer, Norway is -7.7�C (4:34 PM CET on December 14, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Steady).
15:33 nengard there we go!
15:33 magnus feel better now?
15:33 nengard yes :)
15:33 magnus @wunder finse, norway
15:33 munin magnus: Error: No such location could be found.
15:33 magnus goody!
15:34 magnus @wunder trysil, norway
15:34 munin magnus: The current temperature in Trysil Vegstasjon, Norway is -18.0�C (1:00 PM CET on December 14, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Falling).
15:34 magnus there you go!
15:34 nengard WOW
15:34 druthb @wunder 20852
15:34 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -5.9�C (10:35 AM EST on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004.3 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 10 PM EST this evening...
15:34 nengard there i do not go ... never ever :)
15:35 magnus nengard: according to yr.no Trysil had -27.5 °C this last night
15:35 nengard oh my ... that is terrifying
15:36 magnus a little, yes... but that's a dry kind of cold and probably very little or no wind - so it's not so bad
15:37 jcamins magnus: that's even colder than Moscow when I was there.
15:37 jcamins Seems pretty bad to me.
15:37 nengard i still think brendan needs to relocate me to CA :)
15:38 owen @wunder 45701
15:38 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -9.4�C (10:40 AM EST on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
15:38 magnus i had -47 C once in Greenland, now that's cold ;-)
15:38 wizzyrea magnus: weren't  you feeling optimistic yesterday that it would be warmer today?
15:38 magnus it is!
15:39 magnus +2 v.s. -1 or 0 yesterday
15:39 wizzyrea oh! you're right!
15:39 wizzyrea I was looking at the wrong norway :)
15:39 magnus +3 forecast for tomorrow
15:39 magnus is there more than one?
15:39 nengard i think it's supposed to get colder here :(
15:39 wizzyrea there are at least 3 wunder's up there for norway
15:40 magnus uh hu
15:40 wizzyrea I was looking at Trysil Vegstasjon
15:40 * owen is trying to test Bug 5423 but still has nothing in his deletedborrowers table
15:40 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers
15:40 owen anyone else have any luck with that one?
15:41 * owen stops to wonder whether he has his database switched for testing
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15:42 brendan ah there goes my home
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15:47 magnus brendan?
15:47 ibot brendan is around - not currently though
15:48 brendan heh
15:48 brendan ibot forget brendan
15:48 ibot brendan: I forgot brendan
15:48 brendan brendan?
15:48 nengard hehe
15:48 nengard owen - checking
15:48 owen Also weird: after deleting Koha says the patron doesn't exist, but the record is still in borrowers.
15:50 nengard owen i don't have an error - off to check the table
15:51 nengard the patron is in the table, but the fact that the structure is different is true
15:51 nengard i however do have a privacy column in my deletedborrowers table
15:51 * druthb giggles
15:51 druthb ibot:  the patron?
15:51 ibot the patron is in the table, but the fact that the structure is different is true
15:52 nengard goofy
15:52 druthb ibot:  forget the patron
15:52 ibot druthb: I forgot patron
15:52 owen Shoot, I'm sending you on a wild goose chase
15:52 owen chris marked the bug as "patch pushed," but the patch was only pushed to a QA branch, not master
15:53 owen No wonder it's not working :P
15:53 schuster nengard - I forgot to mention that when you do the newsletter if you put that piece in about KUDOS - the room sponsor is Equinox and we would like to thank them for sponsoring the KUDOS meeting in San Diego.
15:54 nengard k
15:54 schuster thanks :)
15:55 nengard np
15:55 owen magnus: You commented on 2010-03-15 that bug 4313 is fixed. Can we mark it as such?
15:55 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4313 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Language selected in staff client affects value of boolean sysprefs
15:55 nengard owen, oops - i just updated the ticket with my test results :)
15:55 owen Sorry :(
15:58 magnus owen: let me check, just to make sure
15:59 eric_b is now known as ebegin
15:59 * ebegin wondering on which flavor of Linux you are working : Debian, Ubuntu, other ?
16:02 jcamins ebegin: is that a general question, or a response to something earlier?
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16:08 jcamins wikipedia++ # for having a nice color-coded example SICI code.
16:09 owen nengard: Could you elaborate on your last comment on bug 4262?
16:09 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4262 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, changing matching rule add big message box
16:10 nengard i'm not sure ...
16:11 nengard basically if you change one of the import pages make sure both are updated - style wise
16:11 owen Does your comment refer to the format of a message box, or to the JS that marks fields as changed?
16:11 nengard JS I believe
16:11 nengard it was too damn long ago :)
16:11 nengard would need to test it again to be sure
16:11 nengard hang on
16:13 magnus owen: looks like bug 4313 was fixed by the fix for bug 4465 - i could perhaps close it with "resolved duplicate of 4465"?
16:13 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4313 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Language selected in staff client affects value of boolean sysprefs
16:13 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4465 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Translated boolean syspref are inverted
16:13 * owen can't bear chris's tapping foot
16:13 owen Thanks magnus
16:15 nengard chris's foot shouldn't be tapping ... i did test and i did ask a question :)
16:15 nengard updated ticket - can't apply patch
16:16 ebegin jcamins, it's a general question.  Which linux distro are you using :)
16:16 ebegin \brb
16:16 owen nengard: The patch has been pushed, it's just waiting for someone to call it fixed.
16:16 nengard oh
16:16 nengard sorry
16:17 magnus owen: np, another one bites the dust
16:17 jcamins ebegin: I'm using Debian on my vps, but prefer using Ubuntu for development.
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16:25 magnus ebegin: i'm with debian, it just seems the easiest option...
16:25 owen Gee, I wonder if this patch from a year ago will still apply...
16:25 owen No? Surprise surprise.
16:37 nengard got a question - i a bib has a hold on it - should it prevent renewals?
16:37 owen It should
16:38 owen But if there are available copies? I don't know
16:39 nengard i'm not sure it's blocking renewals in the opac
16:39 nengard i'm going to have to test this a bit
16:39 magnus hm, should there be a hold on the bib if there are available copies?
16:42 Oak night
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16:58 nengard magnus if you have allowonshelfholds on yes
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16:58 magnus nengard, ah yes of course...
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17:09 hdl nengard: just catching up with logs.
17:09 hdl You said ask BibLibre guy... about acquisitions.
17:09 hdl Is there something I can help you with ?
17:11 nengard schuster was asking about handling orders for multiple locations - they order for multiple branches in one order - which acq can't do right now
17:11 nengard I said you could clarify if I was wrong or if something was being developed
17:12 hdl well if you donot assing a fund to a branch.
17:12 wizzyrea owen; about to update bug 5143 with the squashed patches
17:12 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl
17:12 wizzyrea I just sent it to the list
17:12 hdl Then you can assing th order to ano of the branches.
17:12 hdl Then you can assing the order to any of the branches.
17:14 hdl owen-away: about the deletion of a borrower... it is owed to a change in the borrower table not duplicated in deleted_borrowers.... From what I can understand.
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17:15 hdl So could be fixed quite easily if you just git log kohastructure.sql or even updatedatabase... To check the changes done to borrowers table
17:15 hdl owen-away: hopes that helps
17:15 chris http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13a5425da303c7dd4
17:15 hdl hi crhis
17:15 chris patch for bug 5423 is in master
17:15 hdl chris
17:15 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers
17:15 chris that should be fixed now
17:17 hdl Good.
17:17 hdl have a nice evening
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17:32 magnus kia ora, chris!
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17:38 wizzyrea what's the deal with the broken tarball on koha.org?
17:40 jcamins Discourages people from using Koha?
17:41 chris oh snap
17:42 jwagner Which page on koha.org and what should it point to?  I'll ask for it to be fixed.
17:44 chris apart from pointing the whole thing to koha-community.org .. the download links on the front page
17:44 chris point to a 3.02.00 tarball hosted on files.ptfs that is corrupt
17:44 chris it should just point to the 3.2.1 one on download.koha-community.org
17:45 chris and to the 3.2.1 release notes too
17:45 wizzyrea maybe we should do a thing like wordpress does, and just have a "latest.tar.gz"
17:45 wizzyrea so we never have to update download links
17:45 wizzyrea for the latest version
17:45 gmcharlt latest.tar.gz++
17:46 chris yah, thats just a symlink, wanna do that gmcharlt ?
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17:47 jwagner chris, URLs for them?
17:48 gmcharlt http://download.koha-community[…]oha-latest.tar.gz
17:48 chris redirect / http://www.koha-community.org/
17:48 chris in the apache config
17:48 chris that'll fix it
17:51 jcamins chris: Redirect *permanent* / http://koha-community.org/
17:52 jwagner I've sent an update request.  Not sure if the webmeister is here or on travel, so don't know when it will get fixed.
17:52 chris thanks jwagner
17:53 jwagner chris, I've been fighting a major install problem for days, and am seriously overdue for getting some lunch right now :-) but I want to catch up with you later this afternoon if possible about the mighty flurry of bugzilla stuff....
17:53 jcamins chris: no point in using any more bandwidth than necessary- a 302 will not change Google indexes, etc.
17:53 jwagner Maybe in an hour or two?
17:54 chris yeah ill be on the bus, but should be able to talk
17:54 jwagner It can wait until you get to work -- maybe ping me then?
17:55 chris k
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17:56 * jwagner goes in search of food....
17:57 schuster about to join jwagner!
17:59 nengard sorry about bug 5494 all - that title was an old one I forgot to change :)
17:59 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5494 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, display issues on circ rules
17:59 nengard title all better now :)
18:00 chris schuster my man
18:00 chris do you have access to the kudos site?
18:01 schuster Depending on which one you are refering to but yes maybe...
18:02 chris lots of busted links on it too
18:02 * chris is on a fix your website kick
18:02 schuster agh...  This is a wordpress setup done by Kyle Hall originally - he gave me admin rights to it...  Let me go poking.
18:03 chris thank you :)
18:03 chris the link to the manual is one
18:04 schuster K thanks I'll look at that one specifically to get started...
18:05 owen Maybe we should bug PTFS more often about problems with koha.org. Maybe they'll discover it's more trouble than it's worth.
18:06 chris schuster: thanks, i just noticed it because the announcement caused it to pop up in all my feeds
18:06 schuster What link do you have chris?  I'm not seeing anything at kudos.koha.org?
18:07 chris http://kudos.koha.org/news/ala[…]winter-san-diego/
18:07 chris to the right, under help
18:07 chris then under links etc
18:14 owen chris: Thanks for all your hard work on patches and Bugzilla
18:16 schuster OK thanks got the documentation link changed.
18:21 wizzyrea did you get the one for koha.org that is right below that?
18:26 owen While you're at it maybe you could change the shouting KOHA on the about page?
18:29 schuster Yep just changed that wizzyrea...
18:30 wizzyrea cool beans
18:30 wizzyrea th kindly
18:30 wizzyrea ty, even
18:31 nengard oh boy - a bunch of manual updates done today
18:31 chris fab thanks
18:31 nengard a ton more to go
18:31 schuster owen I think I got that - FYI that was all done pre the PTFS stuff - so was very unintentional by the original author which was not me but fixed none the less.
18:32 schuster I love having all these eyes to help me fix stuff!
18:32 owen Of course schuster
18:32 schuster nengard ++
18:32 owen I had to chase down the same stuff on my own blog, and I didn't get them all the first time around
18:32 chris owen: no worries just trying to make my life managable, and hopefully the patch statuses have implemented a nice way to have a patch queue
18:32 owen chris: I love being about to "shop" for stuff to sign off on
18:33 chris and provide an incentive to have a bug for all patches, cos thats how im gonna track them, and if you dont have a bug, i might miss yours
18:33 * owen likes the useful feeling he gets from signing off on a patch
18:33 chris :)
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18:38 owen nengard: Are you working on smart rules right now?
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18:42 nengard owen, i did work on it - just waiting for a colleague to sign off - if you want I'll send you the patch and you can sign off on it
18:42 nengard and then do the rest of the work
18:42 owen Okay sure
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18:44 nengard sent
18:53 schuster question for owen
18:54 schuster How can I tell in my "jquery" library if I have a certain "plugin?"
18:54 owen schuster: Can you elaborate?
18:55 owen Usually you know you have a jquery plugin because you can see it there on your server.
18:55 schuster I've found a "cookie" plugin that I'm pondering using for a project and wanted to know if it or something was already available.
18:55 owen But if you mean checking for it from within your javascript...
18:55 owen schuster: So you want to know whether Koha uses it?
18:56 schuster No I was just trying to figure out how I can determine if I have access to it.  I'm self hosted remember.
18:56 schuster The plugin that is.
18:56 schuster Before going and downloading etc...
18:56 schuster http://plugins.jquery.com/project/Cookie
18:57 owen If you're self-hosted then you won't have the plugin unless you've installed it yourself
18:58 owen And by "install" I mean, put the plugin file on the server
18:58 schuster Yep I understood the install concept there...
18:58 schuster I'm looking for the folder - what might it be called for the jquery library?
18:59 schuster found it.
19:03 chris I love school holidays the bus is empty
19:06 brendan :)
19:08 schuster I love school holidays - that means my wife gets to sleep in and traffic is cut by 3/4!
19:08 schuster And sometimes I'm off!
19:09 chris OMG MULTIPLE KOHA ON ONE SERVER
19:09 jcamins What's the question there?
19:09 chris schuster: the kids are off for 8 weeks here
19:10 chris Uni students 16
19:10 gmcharlt schuster: I thought they kept you chained to a desk in your office ;)
19:11 chris jcamins: dunno stop reading after the first 2 lines all in caps
19:11 nengard heh
19:12 jcamins chris: I got a little further, but I didn't notice any question mark, and the e-mail was a bit over-long.
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19:16 schuster gmcharlt - generally yes...
19:16 schuster now I'm really going to find some food...
19:22 nengard training time
19:22 nengard be back later
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19:23 * jwagner finds that even in a tough day/week, Steeleye Span's The False Knight on the Road makes me want to dance. Maybe I should have it on my desktop...
19:23 jwagner Not that I _can_ dance, mind you...
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19:31 chris right, at work now
19:32 hdl have a nice day chris
19:35 chris thanks hdl
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19:46 chris jwagner: you wanted to talk about bugs?
19:53 * owen finds that this commit isn't working http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2abebfb92690e74e5
19:54 owen Saving data on one tab erases the data from the other tabs
19:54 wizzyrea ohhhhh bad.
19:54 chris if you revert that commit that goes away?
19:54 chris (make a branch and revert on that)
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19:56 jwagner chris, sorry, was on the phone
19:57 irmaB Good morning all
19:57 chris np
19:57 owen chris: Yes, checking out the previous version of smart-rules.tmpl makes the problem go away
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19:58 chris can you update the bug, and ill revert it out
19:59 chris or is it one without a bug?
19:59 irmaB Hi jwagner, Chris, Owen..
19:59 irmaB Is the Solr meeting this morning?
20:00 chris dont think so
20:00 owen chris, I don't think it has a bug, but I can create one
20:00 chris thanks owen
20:00 chris ill revert the commit now
20:00 chris in master, and chris_n can do the same
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20:05 hdl irmaB it will be at 10 AM UTC...
20:06 hdl irmaB: so it is not your morning.
20:07 owen chris: Bug 5496
20:07 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5496 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Ergonomic improvement in smart rule management
20:07 chris reverted
20:07 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Ergonomy improvement in smart rule management" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cde115764fa1afe44> / Alternate fix for Bug 2981, removing onclick redirect <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d95c67a20c9caa894>
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20:11 owen Yay, my list of git branches is down to one screenful!
20:12 chris :)
20:12 hdl owen: you should try and test the 3.4/Biblibre-admin branch
20:12 hdl It is fixed on that.
20:14 hudsonbot Starting build 219 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 7 days 23 hr ago)
20:17 hdl owen: see here : http://borrowers34.git.biblibr[…]in/smart-rules.pl
20:17 hdl (owen : sorry it is on circmemb-update branch and not on admin branch
20:18 hdl )
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20:18 hdl (It relies on C4::IssuingRules.pm)
20:19 owen Perhaps an independent patch could be attached to bug 5496?
20:19 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5496 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Ergonomic improvement in smart rule management
20:20 hdl owen: it is really fixing many things. and covering many updatedatabases.
20:21 hdl You may try and work it out...
20:21 hdl Adding C4::IssuingRules.pm and using that (at least in smart-rules.pl)
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20:22 hdl And then using that jquery and ajax in admin/smart-rules.tmpl.
20:22 irmaB back again ... Ok thanks hdl
20:23 hdl But without changing the Circulation.pm it would be risky to do that though.
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20:24 hdl this is why we did such big branches.
20:25 owen It makes it very difficult to test when so many changes are made at once.
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20:27 hdl owen: I know... We had to wait for 3.4 to be proposed before sending hat.
20:27 hdl that even.
20:27 hdl And that was why.
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20:28 hdl We donot want the same thing to happen all the time... This is why we try to get people aware of what is done on solr...
20:28 owen I think it's much better to keep branches focused on a single bug fix or feature
20:29 hdl I will try and organise a meeting For QA on those branches.
20:29 hdl owen: we have made little steps all the time...
20:29 hdl But that amount to 637 little steps.
20:31 hdl On member and circulation, it is the biggest : and is more than 450
20:31 owen If you had 637 separate branches with 637 separate bug reports, many of them could have been tested and pushed by now
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20:32 hdl owen: in order to build things, you often have to rely on other work.
20:33 hdl for circulation it was much intricate with member.
20:34 owen I'm sure that many changes are inter-related, but I'm sure others are not
20:34 hdl for instance, we had minor improvements (uitablefilter) and then we added update on the table.
20:36 owen It seems like that is underestimating the power of git to merge changes between branches
20:36 chris are you saying you are still going to continue the practice of huge branches for the future?
20:36 chris or that you are now working on smaller topic branches?
20:37 hdl chris see what we have now.
20:37 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #219: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/219/
20:37 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Alternate fix for Bug 2981, removing onclick redirect
20:37 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Revert "Ergonomy improvement in smart rule management"
20:37 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for 5143, now with IE debug removed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93fc52ddfc65b7d84> / Bug 3789 Set off shelving location in staff and OPAC title display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fd9fdd8909959dbb5> / Bug 4937: Fixes XHTML in the pagination links of a saved report. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
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20:37 hdl chris: see all the branches on git.biblibre.com
20:38 chris one per bug on bugs.koha-community.org eh?
20:38 chris cool
20:38 hdl But still, we have to merge those branches somewhere somehow
20:38 hdl (and some have merge problems... because of updatedatabase)
20:39 chris yep, we have quite a few merge branches running at any time
20:40 chris its tricky, but it does mean, that patches actually can be submitted in a testable format
20:40 hdl it is not with bugs.koha-community.org because it would require us to post the bug in english...
20:40 chris well, they will need a bug number when they are submitted
20:40 hdl And at the moment, it would not be relevant to 3.2 or 3.4
20:41 hdl (some would be but others would not)
20:42 hdl (and it would triple the time for fixing a bug)
20:43 hdl (all the support people are "new comers" in BibLibre)
20:43 chris i just dont want this to happen again
20:43 hdl and are already overcrowded.
20:43 chris because it is costing everything one time
20:43 hdl neither do i.
20:43 owen hdl: Remember, that extra work filing a bug helps *prevent* extra work when someone else is working on the same bug
20:44 hdl well... I don't think it really prevents.
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20:45 hdl Since many bugs are filed more than once.
20:45 owen If I discover a bug, report it, and mark it as assigned to myself, others know that I'm working on it and they don't have to
20:45 hdl it sometimes depend on the formulation of the bug.
20:46 owen True, but that's not a reason *not* to file a bug
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20:47 hdl ok. neither is running out of time and beeing a nolifer because of all the zebra problems...
20:48 hdl Still, we are working in the open.
20:48 hdl All our code is available, and has always been.
20:49 hdl And we rebased everything many times.
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20:56 hdl time to go to bed.
20:56 Brooke night
20:57 wizzyrea good night hdl, sleep well
20:57 chris night hdl
21:00 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #220: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/220/
21:00 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 4977 add missing order links to 'no results found' page
21:00 hudsonbot * Garry Collum: Bug 4937: Fixes XHTML in the pagination links of a saved report.
21:00 hudsonbot * Jane Wagner: Bug 3789 Set off shelving location in staff and OPAC title display
21:00 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fix for 5143, now with IE debug removed
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21:21 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:21 magnus g'night jcamins
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21:22 Brooke night j
21:22 jcamins Here's a question to ponder in my absence: does anyone have a report which will generate a list of malformed codabar barcodes?
21:22 magnus hiya ivanc
21:22 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
21:22 ivanc hiya magnus
21:22 Brooke oooh, that would be a sexy report indeed.
21:22 Brooke Hi Ivanc
21:22 jcamins_a I guess I know what I'll be doing Thursday morning.
21:22 * Brooke cheers
21:23 ivanc hi Brooke
21:23 ivanc hi #koha
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21:44 wizzyrea what data is in tmp_holdsqueue?
21:44 wizzyrea the stuff that goes on pick lists?
21:45 wizzyrea holds queue reports, I mean
21:45 gmcharlt yes
21:45 wizzyrea k ty
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21:51 Brooke Hi saorge
22:05 Brooke Kua haere au. Ka kite anō.
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22:32 druthb :)
22:32 magnus waves at druthb
22:33 * druthb waves at her favorite Norwegian.
22:34 druthb it's getting late for you, isn't it, magnus?
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22:35 magnus druthb: it is, i'll be off in a mo
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22:51 magnus g'night #koha
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23:22 ebegin @wunder montreal, quebec
23:22 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -11.0�C (6:00 PM EST on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
23:34 ebegin Is the stop word list still valid with Zebra?
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