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chris_n |
oooo... perl crashes on large marc imports on win32 |
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chris_n |
win32-- |
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robin |
try win64, it's twice as big! |
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chris_n |
interesting |
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chris_n |
the web import crashes, but bulkmarcimport.pl works fine and fast |
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* chris_n |
seems to remember complaints in general about large imports and the web importer |
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cfouts |
chris_n: web servers are often configured to accept a limited amount of incoming data. could be that the input to larger than that threshold and the backgrounder functionality isn't handling that properly |
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robin |
could be an apache timeout/request too large or something along those lines |
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robin |
err, what cfouts said :) |
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chris_n |
that could be; it pages dramatically and then it appears that the kernel cuts off its resources and the perl instance crashes |
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cfouts |
oh. that sounds like a different problem if it's thrashing |
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robin |
You should find the kernel talking to you in dmesg/syslog if it's OOMing |
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robin |
oh wait, win32 :( |
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chris_n |
heh |
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the web importer pages in the high millions, while the cli script pages in the low thousands |
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* chris_n |
suspects it may have to do with spawing off of the child process |
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chris_n |
yup, win32 perl attempts to emulate fork() with some limitations/threading dangers |
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Brooke |
:D |
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rhcl |
Brooke, why don't we see more of you around here? You add a little bit of, ah, "spice" to the channel. |
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Brooke |
he he |
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Brooke |
well, I have returned from fencing |
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Brooke |
so alas, more spice is in the future. |
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rhcl |
Like, fencing to keep the cattle in the pasture, or the sword fighting type? |
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Brooke |
swashbuckling yaarrr |
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Brooke |
brb apparently the ladies say I've blue no mah face. |
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Brooke |
back |
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Brooke |
@quote |
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munin |
Brooke: Error: "quote" is not a valid command. |
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Brooke |
@quote random |
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munin |
Brooke: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
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Brooke |
@quote 256 |
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munin |
Brooke: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "256" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
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Brooke |
list quote |
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Brooke |
well pfft, this is emptier than Church. |
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chris_n |
well, here it is for posterity's sake: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]s/heads/Win32-wip |
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puts it on the shelf for another X months and heads to bed |
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Brooke |
ahoy! |
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Brooke |
uh oh, adrenaline nearly gone, lactic acid not so much. |
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better stretch and sleep or Ima hurt like a wee prissy girl |
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kmkale |
hi all |
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kmkale |
chris around? |
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Amit |
heya kmkale |
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kmkale |
hi Amit |
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kmkale |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi kmkale :) |
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cait |
looking forward to fee receipt printing :) |
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kmkale |
:) It should go through now with fredericd's blessings |
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cait |
I wrote that down on my 'missing' list a long time ago |
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cait |
glad to see that it's now in koha :) |
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cait |
or will be |
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kmkale |
:) |
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pastebot |
"kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "Problem while doing on a new branch git rebase origin/master" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/99 |
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kmkale |
any idea if its a problem on my side or womething wrong with that patch? |
| 06:55 |
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cait |
you have a merge conflict |
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cait |
you can see the file where the problem is with git status - search for <<< in the file |
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chris |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]resolving-a-merge |
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chris |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5180907836/ |
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chris |
its a hard life when you have to travel to places like that :) |
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kmkale |
cait chris I had nothing to do with this. I am innocent ;) |
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kmkale |
:)) |
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kmkale |
I was just trying to move on to some other work from the fee receipt one. so created a new branch and did a fet and rebase. Lo that paste was the result. |
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kmkale |
brb |
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chris |
how did you create your new branch? |
| 07:05 |
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kmkale |
git checkout -b vpmbarcodes origin |
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chris |
hmm if you did that, then a rebase should do nothing |
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kmkale |
didn't I say I was innocent? |
| 07:07 |
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chris |
there must be local changes on that branch |
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chris |
what i would do |
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chris |
is git fetch origin |
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kmkale |
on vpmbarcodes? nope. nothing touched yet. |
| 07:08 |
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chris |
git checkout -b new_branch_name origin/master |
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chris |
if you do the fetch first there is no need to rebase |
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chris |
because you are checking out a branch that is up to date |
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kmkale |
ok lets try that. Just for my understanding whats the diference between git fetch and git fetch origin? |
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chris |
git fetch origin is just the full way of saying it, but you may have more than one branch, if you git fetch it will fetch from the remote that branch is checking |
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chris |
s/checking/tracking/ |
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chris |
for eg i have catalyst, kc, fbc, biblibre etc |
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chris |
so i always add the name, so that i make sure im fetching from the right remote |
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kmkale |
oohh. Thanks chris. |
| 07:11 |
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cait |
hi chris :) nice photo! |
| 07:11 |
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kmkale |
I am pretty sure that I did it from where I got the 4440 branch yesterday. So could that be it? |
| 07:12 |
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kmkale |
that I was tracking the 4440 branch? |
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cait |
showing kohacon photos today - looks like a lot of fun and not much work - everybody seems to be smiling most of the time :) |
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cait |
ok, time to go - bye :) |
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chris |
sounds like you branched from 4440 yes, so that it is plausible |
| 07:17 |
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kmkale |
plausible. humm |
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kmkale |
brb |
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magnus |
ata marie, #koha |
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brendan |
hey magnus |
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magnus |
hi brendan! burning the midnight oil? |
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brendan |
heh - seems like I'm doing that a lot more lately |
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magnus |
a persons gotta do what a persons gotta do etc... |
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kmkale |
back. |
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kmkale |
Thanks fredericd |
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chris |
kmkale: think we will declare soon? or bat for the draw? |
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chris |
i think now mccullum has his 200, we will declare at 300 |
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kmkale |
chris : That will be fun |
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chris |
with about 38 overs |
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kmkale |
I dont think India will go for the target though |
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chris |
yes, but thats a psychological win for nz |
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chris |
we set you a target, and you didnt back yourselves to get it :) |
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chris |
cricket is mind games :) |
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chris |
i thought we would have lost both tests by now |
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laurenthd |
hi |
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hi #koha |
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wasabi |
heya ivan |
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kmkale |
NZ have great fielding which has greatly helped in this series IMHO |
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magnus |
hiya hdl, ivanc, wasabi, kmkale & chris! |
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chris |
hiya magnus |
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kmkale |
hi magnus |
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ivanc |
hiya magnus |
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kmkale |
chris: why no declaration? |
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chris |
i think they came to same conclusion you did, india wouldnt go for it |
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chris |
so just batting practice now |
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hdl |
chris: C4::IssuingRules.pm is already commited in our circ branch. |
| 09:23 |
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hdl |
And Clay is doing some work on that. |
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hdl |
so this is duplicated effort. |
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chris |
yes, its not the first time and it wont be the last, if people dont look at what others are doing it will happen |
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chris |
and there is nothing i can do about it either, except look at them both once they have both been through QA and test them and pick one implementation |
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hdl |
yes chris. |
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hdl |
But clay dev is one patch. |
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hdl |
And our has to pass QA. |
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chris |
yes |
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hdl |
And our has been done much before. |
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chris |
so does his |
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chris |
that doesnt mean anything |
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chris |
everyone has to pass qa |
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chris |
theres stuff in harley that has been done much before |
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chris |
it still has to pass qa too |
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chris |
do you want me to guarantee your work will go in, without even looking at? |
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* chris |
is unsure what you want from e |
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hdl |
I want our work to be considered. that's all. |
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chris |
of course it is |
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chris |
everyones is |
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chris |
meanwhile, did you see http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/biblibre_reports and the feedback on it? |
| 09:42 |
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chris |
few little things to fix then that can be merged to master |
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chris |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/012870.html |
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hdl |
chris: ok But this was the very little branch |
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chris |
wow |
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chris |
i cant win |
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chris |
do you want me to put them all in tomorrow? .. there is a lot to look at |
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chris |
none of which (apart from the reports branch) are signed off |
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hdl |
chris ok. I got it. |
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wasabi |
http://www.wired.com/threatlev[…]11/stuxnet-clues/ |
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wasabi |
… thats the craziest malware story yet |
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magnus |
hm, nuclear plants running windows - not reassuring... |
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hdl |
indeed. |
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wasabi |
yes, that part is even crazier than the virus! |
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kmkale |
bbl |
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magnus |
hiya irmaB |
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irmaB |
Hi magnus |
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irmaB |
How are U? |
| 11:06 |
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magnus |
i'm fine irmaB, starting to normalize after the jetlag... and you? |
| 11:06 |
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irmaB |
recovering slowwwly from acute lower back pain :( |
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irmaB |
lifted a cabin bag into the overhead locker and regretted it 2 seconds later |
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irmaB |
too heavy! |
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magnus |
aouch |
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irmaB |
ackward space to twist |
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magnus |
that was probably not a fun flight, then... |
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irmaB |
had accupuncture and seems to have helped |
| 11:09 |
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irmaB |
a lot happening on the Koha planet at the moment |
| 11:10 |
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irmaB |
did you see Savitra Sirohi's Koha book |
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magnus |
yeah |
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magnus |
koha seems like a fast moving target for a printed book... |
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irmaB |
back again... |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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magnus |
hiya kf |
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kf |
god morgen magnus |
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kf |
(correct?) |
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magnus |
kf: yep |
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kf |
cool :) |
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irmaB |
Hi kf ... Gehts gut? |
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kf |
ja Irma danke - und dir? |
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irmaB |
es geht mir langsam besser |
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irmaB |
Rückenschmerzen ..sehr langweilig und unangenehm |
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kf |
oh, das tut mir leid - ich hoffe es geht dir bald besser |
| 11:42 |
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irmaB |
but re Koha work ..slowly upgrading our clients to 3.2 and planning training |
| 11:42 |
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irmaB |
so that is fun :-) |
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irmaB |
danke kf |
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irmaB |
kf what are you working on? |
| 11:43 |
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kf |
koha presentation in berlin on friday - 45 minutes |
| 11:43 |
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kf |
longest so far - need more slides! |
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irmaB |
great |
| 11:44 |
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irmaB |
slides saying what? |
| 11:44 |
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irmaB |
perhaps I have some |
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irmaB |
45 minutes is actually not that long |
| 11:47 |
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irmaB |
depending on the size of the audiance |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
hm a general talk about koha |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
and I have some cataloging questions from the attending libraries to prepare for |
| 11:48 |
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irmaB |
you can always show various Koha OPACS and point out the flexibility |
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kf |
yes, I have nice slides about the opac featues |
| 11:49 |
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kf |
but will show intranet too |
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irmaB |
re cataloguing ... maybe show them http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ |
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irmaB |
and then the MARC frameworks in Koha etc. |
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irmaB |
kf You will be fine... in fact.. I think you will be great!! |
| 11:53 |
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irmaB |
Time to say goodnight :) Goodluck kf |
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magnus |
so do i - on a mission to bring the joy of koha to germany... ;-) |
| 11:53 |
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magnus |
good night irmaB - see ya! |
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irmaB |
see ya Magnus and goodluck for your mission too! |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi kf |
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gmcharlt |
when's your presentation? |
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kf |
ah on friday |
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kf |
it's a small group looking at various systems |
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druthb |
howdy, #koha. |
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jwagner |
Morning. |
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kmkale |
good evening |
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kmkale |
hi owen |
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owen |
Hi |
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kf |
hi owen, druthb and jwagner |
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jwagner |
Guten tag, kf |
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jwagner |
cfouts, what are you doing up so early? |
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* druthb |
boggles. |
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cfouts |
can't sleep... clowns will eat me. |
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* druthb |
bursts into giggles. |
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* jwagner |
wonders what cfouts has been eating/drinking/smoking lately.... |
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kmkale |
hi druthb kf jwagner |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale. :) |
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kf |
cfouts: I am scared of clowns too |
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* kf |
hands cfouts some hot chocolate |
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jwagner |
hi kmkale |
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cfouts |
ever since "Poltergeist"... |
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hands cfouts a teddy bear |
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jwagner |
Bonjour hdl |
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hdl |
hi jwagner |
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hi hdl |
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kf |
new nick? |
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kf: it is mibbit. |
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chris_n |
kf: about? |
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kf |
chris_n: wanted to write the same to you right now |
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kf |
chris_n: that's the possibility I haven't tested... *sighs* |
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chris_n |
can you do some testing on my latest remarks on bug 5379? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors |
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chris_n |
I think the problem is the poorly worded help text |
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chris_n |
but want to be sure what I replace it with does, indeed, work :-) |
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kf |
I can do tomorrow, is that ok? |
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kf |
and who invents somthing like that? it looks a bit scary |
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kf |
a better worded help is really needed |
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kf |
chris_n: what happens if you want to use single quotes? does that work too? |
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chris_n |
the RFC does speak to single quotes |
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kf |
forgot my github passwort - again :( |
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kf |
chris_n: which RFC are we talking about? |
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chris_n |
if you do '"foo","bar","foobar"' things break |
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chris_n |
RFC-4180 |
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kf |
do you have a link? |
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chris_n |
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4180.txt |
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chris_n |
so I think we must support the standard and clarify the help to use examples which follow |
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chris_n |
kf: section 2 number 7 of the above link deals with double quotes |
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kf |
standard++ |
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kf |
ok, I support you in supporting the standard ;) |
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feels better already :) |
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kf |
chris_n: but we need a good example on the page! |
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chris_n |
it appears that single quotes fail to cause the embedded commas to be properly escaped |
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chris_n |
so I think they are best left unused in this context |
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chris_n |
kf: probably having the sample csv really be a sample (ie. having a row or two of valid data) would help as well |
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kf |
i think the sample csv is build with a script - we have no sample patron attributes |
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will submit a follow-up patch later |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: is a wizzy_gon a new type of n-gon? |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Got your msg about the lost/damaged status but can't reproduce it |
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wizzyrea |
it has eleventy-billion sides |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
odd. it's an upgrade db. do you have to have an empty authorized value? |
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wizzyrea |
like, a value with no value? |
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tries that |
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owen |
I wouldn't think so |
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owen |
Oh, spoke too soon |
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owen |
Damaged, authorized value 0, description empty |
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tcohen |
Has anyone seen this error: http://cea.biblio.unc.edu.ar/c[…]=santa+mar%C3%ADa |
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tcohen |
look for "Colección" |
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wizzyrea |
AHA |
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wizzyrea |
this is what I had to do: http://screencast.com/t/vK09c1XKgDL |
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owen |
You had to create a completely blank entry? |
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wizzyrea |
to have it show blanks instead of the 1st one in the list, yea |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps I have done it wrong |
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owen |
tcohen: I've heard of that bug before tcohen, but I've not been able to reproduce it |
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owen |
tcohen: Bug 5147 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5147 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, If a title has double quotes, item details not displayed correctly |
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owen: in yours it shows the currently set value in those drop downs? |
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owen |
Sorry tcohen that isn't right is it? |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Yes |
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wizzyrea |
hmm, in mine it doesn't |
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wizzyrea |
even if you set it, it defaults to the first in the list |
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wizzyrea |
must be something local, thanks for checking |
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tcohen |
oewn: i'm checking the marc for that biblio and cannot find double quotes |
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tcohen |
s/oewn/owen/ |
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owen |
tcohen: Looks like it might be the double quotes in the publisher name |
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tcohen |
owen, is this a bug or marc21 prohibits double quotes there? |
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owen |
A bug. I'm trying to reproduce it |
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kf |
*sighs* |
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kf |
why can't I push to my public repo? |
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kf |
:( |
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owen |
*sighs* |
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owen |
why can't I reproduce tcohen's bug? |
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owen |
:( |
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kf |
and it's not even monday! |
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kf |
chris_n: about the state address - we don't have that, but added some fields in the past - I think i could do it if you want it |
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kf |
state in address fields.. |
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owen |
kf: Then can you write a script which will split the state info out of our city field and automatically populate the new field? :) |
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kf |
nope |
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kf |
owen: sorry... but I think that will vary for a lot of people |
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kf |
not sure I can do it... hm. but it should only be a sql command right? |
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thinks it might be possible with a sql statement or two |
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owen |
tcohen: I'd be curious if removing the quotes from the publisher name fixed the problem |
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gmcharlt |
splitting on a comma would handle it for US addresses (not counting inconsistently entered data, of course) |
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chris_n |
kf: that would be a nice addition; lots of other software consumes addresses in this format |
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owen |
Although even if I copy that publisher data into one of my records I can't reproduce the problem |
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owen |
Ah wait, now I can |
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kf |
gmcharlt: yeah, I think that's why I don't want to update it automatically - I fear people are not consistent |
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kf |
don't want to mess with their data |
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gmcharlt |
kf: the upgrade could be made optional, then, by having it handled by a separate script that the library could choose to run or not |
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kf |
hm ok |
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kf |
I am volunteering because I did something similar before - so I think I can handle it |
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kf |
but actually we (Germany) doesn't really need it |
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kf |
we don't have the state in the address |
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owen |
Ooh, sneaky |
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owen |
You can have double quotes in your publisher name *only if* you also have something in 260c |
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owen |
It's the COinS / OpenURL data messing up the markup |
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jwagner |
schsuter is having an identity crisis? |
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schsuter |
yes and typing issues. |
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owen |
Do not anger bizzaro-schsuter |
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knows that feeling.... |
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kf |
now new with a capital S :) |
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* kf |
still can't push to her repo |
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owen |
Zotero doesn't like those quotes in the publisher name either |
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owen |
Bug 5412 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5412 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Double quotes in publisher name, no date cause search results links to break |
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* kf |
CAN push to her repo now :) |
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wizzyrea_ |
yay! |
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kf |
magnus++ |
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magnus |
yay! |
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tcohen |
owen, i'll follow this bug, is there a coins specification? |
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owen |
I assume so, but I don't know where offhand |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: http://ocoins.info/ |
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kf |
ok, time to go - bbl! :) |
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jcamins_a |
tcohen++ # I didn't read the scrollback, but maybe he's going to fix the COiNS support? |
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owen |
See Bug 5412 jcamins |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5412 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Double quotes in publisher name, no date cause search results links to break |
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owen |
What else is broken about COiNS? |
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jcamins |
There's a laconic note "MARC21 needs some improve." |
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gmcharlt |
that's helpful |
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jcamins |
I think they're referring specifically to the fact that LDR and 008 are completely ignored, and the output is always described as a "book." |
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jcamins |
Also, I'm pretty sure the coins coding is non-standard compliant. |
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jcamins |
Specifically, the title attribute. |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, the standard made no sense at all, and Zotero doesn't mind, so I gave up. |
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owen |
What's wrong with the title attribute? |
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jcamins |
(I noticed the problem when using the resulting coins with a link resolver) |
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jcamins |
I think it's the wrong one. |
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jcamins |
coins has a bunch. |
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jcamins |
(which seems to me like a design flaw, but what do I know? |
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jcamins |
The links may work with SFX- I tested with Umlaut, and it was a while ago. |
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rhcl |
@seen sekjal |
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munin |
rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 6 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * sekjal makes a mental connection: so that's where that error originates from! |
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tcohen |
jcamins: koha's coins support flaws are documented in a bug? |
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tcohen |
maybe we can start a rewrite or bugfix |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I have demo patches attached to bug 4366, but they're not really commitable. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4366 normal, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, COinS support for MARC21 |
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jcamins |
Everything's hard-coded. :( |
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jcamins |
I'd like to get back to that, but who knows when I'll have time. |
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jcamins |
Especially since I really didn't understand the coins specification. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: i'll give it a try and report back |
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tcohen |
thanks for the data |
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thd |
tcohen: Even the bugs* for OpenURL COinS support are an incomplete report. |
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jcamins |
thd: yeah, as I said, I gave up on understanding the standard at some point. |
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thd |
jcamins: Was it the OpenURL standard which gave you trouble or the OpenURL COinS standard for embedding OpenURL in web pages? |
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jcamins |
thd: the OpenURL 1.0 Context Object. |
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jo |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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thd |
jcamins: Do you mean the nature of general context objects as distinct from specific bibliographic references? |
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jcamins |
thd: no, I specifically had trouble figuring out what data went where. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: jrochkind on #code4lib might be a good person to talk to about OpenURL's data model |
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thd |
jcamins: Do you mean what data should goes into particular OpenURL attributes? |
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thd |
jcamins: I could answer all your questions as I worked on OpenURL COinS and have some unpublished work on OpenURL. |
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thd |
jcamins: I also investigated the Koha attempt at an implementation and had been preparing to use it as an example of a deficiency in the Koha development process. |
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thd |
jcamins: I did not go forward with my example because adversarial relations between LibLime and PTFS came to dominate all my attention. |
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cait |
hi brooke |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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thd |
jcamins: Bug #3092 was my start at what is wrong with Koha's OpenURL COinS effort. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1, ---, frederic, NEW, Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
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jcamins |
thd: sorry for the pause, I was on the phone. |
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thd |
jcamins: Values had to first be appropriately normalised for inclusion in OpenURL. |
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jcamins |
Yes, my initial problem was that I'm not entirely sure there's a clear mapping of MARC field-COinS field |
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rhcl |
Brooke is back...... |
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wizzyrea_ |
she's nice |
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wizzyrea_ |
:D |
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* wizzyrea_ |
waves to Brooke |
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jcamins |
thd: please ignore my random tenses. |
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jcamins |
I'm apparently a bit distracted. |
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blushes |
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thd |
jcamins: Exactly, that is what bug #3092 is all about, whether the data is stored in MARC or in Koha SQL columns, the data is not normalised correctly for any specific purpose. |
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rhcl |
Yesterday is was us that was blushing |
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gmcharlt |
thd: since there's no one true normalization for all specific purposes, normalization needs to happen at the edges and interfaces |
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gmcharlt |
I grant that it could be done a lot more systematically |
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thd |
gmcharlt: In bug #3092 I suggest storing data in various forms normalised for various purposes. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1, ---, frederic, NEW, Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I suggest that the degree of normalisation needed for so many different purposes would make too much of a real time demand upon the CPU if all needed normalisation would be done for every possible feature. |
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wanders off to eat lunch, muttering something about OpenURL binding descriptions |
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gmcharlt |
thd: the normalization wouldn't have to be done all at once for all possibly purposes |
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thd |
gmcharlt: That depends on the number of simultaneous users. Given enough simultaneous users everything would be requested at once. |
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gmcharlt |
thd: I don't think that's a realistic view of system load |
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gmcharlt |
obviously better caching might be called for |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I want Koha to be able to work on a world OPAC scale. |
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thd |
A world OPAC could make good use of OpenURL. |
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thd |
Open Library is partly intended as a world OPAC in a very modest way. |
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drools at the thought of Open Library |
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thd |
Brooke: Open Library is a real project of the Internet Archive but which is much less inspiring on close examination of the implementation. |
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wizzyrea_ |
maybe we should be encouraging instead of trying to replace them. |
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Brooke |
mmm. think they are not quite done laying solid foundations. |
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thd |
wizzyrea: I have been and am encouraging them. |
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Brooke |
I'd expect them to offer more meaningful services in future than OCLC if things shake out correctly |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ what she said |
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thd |
Brooke: They are not aimed at competing with OCLC except for interlibrary loan facilitation of electronic copies perhaps. |
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Brooke |
change your footing from an open source advocate to an OCLC wonk and give me the same answer. |
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thd |
Brooke: Ok, you are correct. OCLC sees any aggregation of bibliographic records, however poor the data model, as a threat to their monopoly. |
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jcamins |
To be fair, OCLC has a point. |
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* Brooke |
is a pessimist after many years of optimism. |
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thd |
jcamins: The treat which OCLC has to fear from Open Library is a threat from raw record redistribution. |
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thd |
jcamins: You can download all the originating source records used to create Open Library records from the Internet Archive. |
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Brooke |
ahoy druthb |
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druthb |
hi. |
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thd |
jcamins: Thankfully, OCLCs members compelled them to come up with a half reasonable record reuse policy after their previous attempt. |
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gmcharlt |
thd: I think that's an optimistic reading of what happened |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I do prefer to be optimistic. |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I have never met anyone from OCLC whom I did not like on a personal basis when I met the person with only one exception. |
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* owen |
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jcamins |
thd: I have met personally the former CEO of a company which is generally reviled by everyone, including myself. I liked him just fine, but I still hope the company he helped build collapses in on itself. |
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Brooke |
Tayloristic company behaviour is often unrelated to individual behaviour for obvious reasons. |
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thd |
Brooke: I think that the scary people at OCLC mostly work in the legal department, although, I have a good rapport with lawyers in general. I have never met any OCLC lawyers. |
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thinks longingly about making a comment to do with daylight and thd not looking at the ceiling when he was given a tour... |
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thd |
jcamins: I have never been to Ohio. I only met people from OCLC at conferences, never in their lair. |
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Brooke |
lol @ lair. |
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jcamins |
Ah, that explains it. :) |
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owen |
Must be something about Ohio |
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* wizzyrea_ |
remembers that owen had a plan to take over the world |
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* owen |
wonders where he left that |
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* Brooke |
chastises owen again for not collaborating with Rosalie and JoAnn on the same. |
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Brooke |
by missing conference, you missed poor Lee seated between those two. |
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thd |
jcamins: I have even met Karen Calhoon, and spoken with her extensively. I was prepared to regard her as champion of everything wrong but she came across as misguided but willing to be accommodating. |
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thd |
Whatever, the problems with OCLC, the money which they obtain from users pays for a great research department. Microsoft also does great research with their loot. |
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* Brooke |
grins impishly. |
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* jcamins |
had never considered the possibility that Brooke's grins were not impish |
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* Brooke |
cackles. |
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Brooke |
just remember that you've 2 Kuia protecting ye. It'll be fine. |
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thd |
OCLC research has some real heros for the future of library science. We need to be alert so that OCLC does not control that future. |
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Brooke |
bah |
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Brooke |
control as it relates to the arrow of time would seem to be less centralised, not more. |
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thd |
jcamins: On the subject of OpenURL Koha is missing a required attribute, has strings such as p. for pages included in numberic attributes, etc. |
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thd |
Brooke: I hope that times' arrow and progress have a general alignment but that is not a necessary condition of the world. |
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Brooke |
didn't say progres.s |
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thd |
I know that you did not. |
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Brooke |
just clarifying that so I needn't disagree with meself. |
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thd |
Brooke: I substituted 'progress' for your use of 'less centralised'. I think of decentralisation as good progress. |
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Brooke |
back to the salt mines. |
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chris |
morning |
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druthb |
hi, chris. :) |
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thd |
jcamins: s/attributes/keys/ for a closer match to OpenURL terminology above. |
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thd |
jcamins: Some of the OpenURL standards documents have some minor terminological inconsistencies which does not make them easier to read :) |
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wizzyrea |
how would I go about finding the patch for this bug? |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3520 |
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munin |
Bug 3520: blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, crash when adding or editing item record |
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chris |
do a google |
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wizzyrea |
update to 3.0.4 I guess |
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chris |
koha bug 3250 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3250 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Overdues report shows unique ID instead of location name |
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chris |
third link should be the patch |
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chris |
and again on the 6th :) |
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chris |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/009833.html |
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chris |
google rules |
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wizzyrea |
ok that last one is helpful. :) |
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wizzyrea |
I did teh googlez… but I guess I didn't look for the right thing |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: alternatively |
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wizzyrea |
:( sickie google fu fail. |
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gmcharlt |
git log and look for the patch |
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gmcharlt |
then git show 7f7dfa0a1 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
that is also helpful, thanks |
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wizzyrea |
woot the patch fixed it |
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* wizzyrea |
does a dance |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: old version? |
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chris_n |
is anyone using SMS for notices? |
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chris |
not me |
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owen |
Is there a special name for Perl's "@_" variable? |
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wizzyrea |
yep, very |
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wizzyrea |
and almost retired anyway |
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chris |
hdl: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ibre_acquisitions one done |
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chris_n |
g'evening hdl |
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chris_n |
g'morning chris |
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wizzyrea |
does the functionality exist in koha to alert an administrator about "orphaned" reserves? An example of this would be a bib where the last item available for reserve is marked missing, lost, or damaged, and the people on the list won't get their holds filled |
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wizzyrea |
never mind, I consulted the wiki and found a report that's pretty close to that |
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hdl |
good evening all |
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hdl |
chris: Don't work on authorities now. |
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hdl |
I will push one patch on that right away |
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jcamins |
They're evil and will shorten your lifespan! |
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chris |
cool |
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chris_n |
^^what he said |
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chris_n |
well, what jcamins said |
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chris |
im doing the opac now |
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hdl |
ok thanks. |
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hdl |
chris where can I find the reason why 3.0.x is not sunny ? |
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hdl |
(on hudson) |
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chris |
i noticed that add limits to search history pulls in a whole pile of database changes, not just the limiting to search history one, so fixing that as i go |
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chris |
ahh here |
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chris |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]lastBuild/console |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]_qa/biblibre_opac |
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chris |
done, and its now only doing the 2 database updates it needs to |
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chris |
so should be easier to test and more likely to be able to be merged |
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hdl |
chris+++++ |
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hdl |
chris++ |
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owen |
chris does the Koha/kete integration use AJAX to display the kete results sidebar? |
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chris |
yes |
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chris |
pulls them into a div |
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owen |
But the div is coded into the template eh? |
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chris |
yup |
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owen |
Did you experiment with adding the div via js as well? |
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chris |
nope, i didnt, but no reason why you couldnt do that |
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chris |
i just found it easier to have a place to pop it in |
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owen |
I'm asking because Stephen and I are talking about ways to integrate results from the Ohio Web Library into Koha search results |
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chris |
ahh |
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chris |
can you get search results as an rss feed? |
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hdl |
chris : Can't locate override_context_prefs.pm in @INC |
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chris |
if so, the code for kete will just work |
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hdl |
(in the console.) |
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chris |
if you change the base url |
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chris |
hdl: that would do it |
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owen |
Oh, interesting |
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hdl |
Is there a problem with the test script ? |
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chris |
owen: i started changing it it, to opac-externalsearch.pl and changing the syspref so you could just plug in anything |
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chris |
opac-externalsearch.pl takes your rss, and makes it into JSON |
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chris |
then the js does stuff with it |
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chris |
calling a local script which then fetches the data, gets round all the anti XSS script measures most browsers have now |
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chris |
hdl: yes, could well be, ill try to have a look today |
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chris |
its probably an ENV variable missing |
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chris |
ill have a quick look now |
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hdl |
thanks chris. |
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hdl |
we decided to use a hudson bot too. |
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hdl |
We shall implement that soon. |
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owen |
SMFPL is doing a different kind of Ohio Web Library integration, wherein OWL scrapes the Koha search results screen and integrates the results into its own search results: http://www.smfpl.org/library/s[…]arch&search=maori |
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hdl |
We will also make some use case for C4::Search.pm and some tests. |
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hdl |
I saw there were very little in the test suite. |
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* owen |
finds the output of that search much more confusing than what he sees on HLT's site |
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chris |
hdl: excellent :) |
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hdl |
We will ask for contribution when we have the meeting around solr |
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hdl |
We are trying to build some from our tests and experience |
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hdl |
We also Worked out a Z3950::SimpleServer... |
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chris |
hdl: i cant fidn that file? |
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hdl |
(to be built upon solr) |
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chris |
Auth.t has use override_context_prefs; |
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chris |
but i cant find that file? |
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hdl |
shoot. |
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chris |
t/db_dependent/Auth.t |
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hdl |
maybe some backport from master to 3.0 |
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chris |
yeah, sounds likely |
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hdl |
funny it just appeared now. |
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chris |
we might not have been running the db_dependent tests before |
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gives up on SMS and just uses email2txt |
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hdl |
chris: what about running tests on all the branches awaiting_qa ? |
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hdl |
would maybe provide some basic tests for qa at least. |
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chris |
i run the sweet before i push the branch |
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chris |
suite too |
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chris |
:) |
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hdl |
I understood |
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hdl |
nice. |
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chris |
but yep, wouldnt hurt |
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chris |
bugs is a fairly smallish box though |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: not a bad idea to have it done automatically, but I think would require more server horsepower |
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chris |
i might have to pay linode for more disk if i run more |
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gmcharlt |
that would be a case where some distribution would help |
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chris |
what gmcharlt said :) |
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hdl |
we may try and mutualise some diskspace on that. |
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hdl |
... I never understood why blib was so important. |
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hdl |
(It takes so much space....) |
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hdl |
as soon as our hudson is up, i'll send a message. |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: blib is mostly an artifact of how the installer was implemented as an application of EU::MM, but isn't valuable per se |
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chris |
hdl: excellent |
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hdl |
sure... it just takes space and time. ;) |
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hdl |
I have to get on an unfriendly VPN... And then go to bed.. |
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hdl |
See you folks. |
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chris |
i really like linode |
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chris |
if you ever are looking for a new provider |
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hdl |
anyone aware of a good tcp2com FOSS project ? |
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hdl |
I have been using com0com... But command line... and not much windows user friendly |
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hdl |
found 2 other for record : |
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hdl |
delicious.com/laurenthdl/com0com |
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hdl |
Good night. |
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chris |
night hdl |
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chris |
wb darling :) |
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trea |
o/ |
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wizzyrea |
yay darling! |
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darling |
howdy howdy howdy |
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darling |
did I miss anything? |
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chris |
hmm |
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chris |
http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ <-- that |
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wizzyrea |
there was the epic RFC discussion. |
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wizzyrea |
quite a bit of talk about solr |
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chris |
someone suggested rewriting all of koha in java |
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chris |
(happens usually once a year) |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea, that was a good one |
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rhcl |
I did not--I wanted Ada! |
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gmcharlt |
Forth! |
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cfouts |
ML |
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rhcl |
Lisp is better than Forth |
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rhcl |
APL is pretty good too. |
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rhcl |
APL1 |
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gmcharlt |
((((really?))) |
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rhcl |
PL1 (I'll get it right this time) |
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wizzyrea |
alright, anybody have a moment for a probably elementary report question? |
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chris |
they are all crap compared to awesomechrisc+091LPxl |
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chris |
i just rewrote the whole world in it |
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chris |
right now! |
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trea |
sweet |
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wizzyrea |
I'm trying to get a report that shows the persons who hold reserves on bibs that only have items that are marked lost, withdrawn, or damaged (lol chris) |
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chris |
with more ponies |
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wizzyrea |
(abandoned holds) |
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wizzyrea |
what I have shows the person who has an abandoned reserve item checked out, I want to know who has the reserve |
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chris |
who placed the reserve? |
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chris |
can you paste what you have? |
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wizzyrea |
yep, so you can contact them to say "sorry, this item isn't available anymore" |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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pastebot |
"wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "orphaned hold report" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/100 |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
you dont care if its out or not? just who placed it? |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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chris |
k |
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chris |
2 secs |
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tcohen |
1 question: do you think it'd be awful to generate a $record->htmlized_subfield method for biblios? |
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chris |
itd be awful if i had to do it |
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tcohen |
such that " is substituted by " and ' by ' |
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chris |
hmm, i think its better to have the template do it |
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chris |
with escape="HTML" |
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tcohen |
to get coins to work sth like that needs to be done |
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chris |
for html::template |
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chris |
and | h |
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tcohen |
yes |
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chris |
for template::toolkit |
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tcohen |
the thing is that the problem is in Biblio.pm |
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tcohen |
specifically in GetCOinSBiblio |
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tcohen |
when we "construct" the coins span |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "SELECT borrowers.cardnumber, b" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/101 |
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chris |
that *might* work |
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tcohen |
we cannot be sure the marc fields don't have single or double quotes |
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wizzyrea |
*trying&* |
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wizzyrea |
(plz don't be like my mother and say "yes, you are") |
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chris |
right, have you looked at C4::Scrubber |
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* wizzyrea |
sobs |
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chris |
which uses HTML::Scrubber |
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chris |
using that might be what you want to do |
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wizzyrea |
oooh |
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* wizzyrea |
looks at what you did thar |
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wizzyrea |
MEH! I tried that (I thought) and it didn't work. At the very least I was on the right path several times. |
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Brooke |
you just had issues ;) |
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wizzyrea |
ba dum bum |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: what r u talking abouT |
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Brooke |
SQL script to enable phoning a Patron and telling em how hosed they are for procrastination |
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robin |
Brooke: next step is an SQL script that'll go around to their house with a few heavies and discourage them from being late again. |
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Brooke |
>:) |
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Brooke |
never did by my Library jacket... http://www.unshelved.com/store[…]rwear/LibraryRaid |
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robin |
Brooke: have you ever watched "Castle"? |
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Brooke |
don't believe so |
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tcohen |
chris: it looks like scrubber sanitizes tags and its attributes |
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* Brooke |
lives under a rock with only rats for company. |
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tcohen |
and i'm not sure it can resolve our coins issue |
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tcohen |
damn, yakuake core dumped |
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tcohen |
lost my ssh session |
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tcohen |
damn1 |
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robin |
Brooke: it's about a crime writer who follows police around to get ideas. Anyway, at one point he gets a bulletproof vest made that says "WRITER" |
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wizzyrea |
tcohen: i am talking about a script that shows who has holds on items where their hold will never be filled because the item is lost, damaged, or withdrawn |
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wizzyrea |
er |
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wizzyrea |
a report |
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chris |
you should make it a script |
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wizzyrea |
to what, run on a cron? |
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chris |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
capital idea |
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Brooke |
that's why he gets the big bucks |
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wizzyrea |
true dat |
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chris |
i think you misunderstand how the economy works |
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chris |
its the people with the retarded ideas that get the big bucks |
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wizzyrea |
revision: this is why chris has the most social capital of any of us ;) |
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cait |
chris: ture |
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cait |
true |
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waves to eric |
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chris: I think we should be powering all this with the use of goats. Can I get the big bucks now? |
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chris |
heh |
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* Brooke |
resents being called a goat. |
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robin |
you started it! you just called yourself one! |
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Brooke |
look, just because I have hooves, a tail, and some horns... |
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wizzyrea |
that seems a bit synonymous with the common description of a demon as well |
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robin |
wizzyrea: no, the cron job is better than the daemon at the moment :) |
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darling |
goats! |
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wizzyrea |
robin: …lol |
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remembers that "bonk" means something totally different here, refrains from using it |
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robin |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
ah I just love libre office. The fact that you can paste a delimited clipboard makes me so. very. happy. |
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Brooke |
hi |
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sekjal |
hi everyone! |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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sekjal |
just showing the awesomeness of the Koha community and our chat |
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sekjal |
wehoo |
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wizzyrea |
hey sekjal :) |
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wizzyrea |
so that report to show who has abandoned holds is pretty great |
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sekjal |
time to go |
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wizzyrea |
it even catches item level holds that are on lost items |
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chris |
yay |
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wizzyrea |
superawesome |
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owen |
Hey, I was just trying to check out the biblibre_opac qa branch and I'm having trouble with the updatedatabase |
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owen |
"We are upgrading from Koha 3.01.00.145 to 3.03.00.XXX |
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gmcharlt |
owen: since the database version can't be set precisely for a QA branch, you'll have to adjust updatabase.pl and kohaversion.pl when you test |
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gmcharlt |
making a backup of your test database beforehand would be a good idea, too |
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owen |
Okay, I didn't know that |
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gmcharlt |
first time, really, that we've been dealing with a large number of topic branches each of which can have database updates on them |
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owen |
Is the version number I'm upgrading to arbitrary? |
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* owen |
increments the last recorded version number in updatedatabase.pl |
