| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
Missing mappings in the language_rfc4646_to_iso639 table. |
| 00:01 |
|
* jcamins |
goes to update his bug |
| 00:14 |
|
jcamins |
Will we still be using CGI when we switch to Template::Toolkit? |
| 00:14 |
|
jcamins |
(CGI.pm) |
| 00:15 |
|
jcamins |
Or is there a different web server interface thing we'll be using? |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
nope still using that |
| 00:15 |
|
jcamins |
Okay. |
| 00:15 |
|
jcamins |
How was lunch? |
| 00:15 |
|
* chris |
gets back from lunch and ice cream with the rea's |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
very fun |
| 00:18 |
|
jcamins |
Hm. |
| 00:19 |
|
* jcamins |
thinks he needs a tutorial on using CGI with Template::Toolkit. |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
well, the plan is replace C4::Output |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
so it does the headers etc for you |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
for now |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
my $cgi = new CGI; or CGI->new(); |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
whatever you like |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
print $cgi->header(); |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
then output the template |
| 00:21 |
|
cait |
hm ice cream |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, this is progress. |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
:) |
| 00:24 |
|
robin |
ice cream is always progress |
| 00:25 |
|
jcamins |
How do you read from a POST? |
| 00:25 |
|
chris |
same was as a get |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
my $input = $cgi->param('some_variable'); |
| 00:26 |
|
jcamins |
Oh. |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
unless you are talking about a file upload? |
| 00:26 |
|
* cait |
peeks at jcamins's screen cuiously |
| 00:26 |
|
jcamins |
Nope, that's what I meant. |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
cool, yeah just like a get |
| 00:27 |
|
darling |
photo 1 of pre-con festivities -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/reedwade/5091736300/ |
| 00:27 |
|
jcamins |
Mmm. Ice cream. |
| 00:28 |
|
cait |
yeah |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
if you tag that kohacon10 the website will pick it up :) |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/ in the photos there |
| 00:28 |
|
cait |
chris: how many people registered for the conference? |
| 00:29 |
|
chris |
107 |
| 00:29 |
|
cait |
ah |
| 00:29 |
|
cait |
is registration still open? |
| 00:29 |
|
cait |
ah, no |
| 00:29 |
|
chris |
just closed it |
| 00:29 |
|
cait |
reading the page right now :) |
| 00:30 |
|
chris |
if someone emails .. we can let them in tho ;) |
| 00:30 |
|
chris |
http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/ |
| 00:30 |
|
chris |
bit of activity today |
| 00:30 |
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| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
Yay!! I successfully inserted the title into the page! |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
yay!! |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
good start :) |
| 00:32 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 00:32 |
|
jcamins |
(it's the little things... and this is my first real accomplishment on this project) |
| 00:32 |
|
cait |
jcamins: you learn now and can teach me later? :) |
| 00:32 |
|
cait |
;) |
| 00:33 |
|
* jcamins |
thinks it would probably be wrong to have <input value="[% date %]"/>... or is that okay? |
| 00:33 |
|
chris |
thats ok |
| 00:33 |
|
jcamins |
Cool. |
| 00:33 |
|
* wizzyrea_ |
is safe back at the hotel... very fun lunch with chris, robin and reed |
| 00:33 |
|
robin |
It's just string subst, like with the other thingamie |
| 00:34 |
|
chris |
but you probably want a type and name too :) |
| 00:34 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
and killer ice cream |
| 00:34 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea_: good to hear you made it back |
| 00:35 |
|
jcamins |
The tutorial doesn't mention that there is more than one argument to [% |
| 00:36 |
|
robin |
jcamins: there are no arguments to [% per se |
| 00:36 |
|
robin |
you just put stuff in there, and it outputs the result, if any |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
So how do I specify a type? |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, wait, never mind. |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
I see what chris was saying. |
| 00:37 |
|
* jcamins |
is apparently feeling way too literal today. |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
Yes, my input has a type and a name. |
| 00:37 |
|
chris |
[% something | filter %] |
| 00:38 |
|
chris |
[% variable | html %] |
| 00:38 |
|
chris |
etc, is useful when outputting to a page |
| 00:38 |
|
chris |
then it escapes the html for you (if you want to do that) |
| 00:38 |
|
jcamins |
Ah. I see. |
| 00:39 |
|
chris |
http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]nual/Filters.html |
| 00:39 |
|
chris |
handy list of hte builtin filters you can use |
| 00:39 |
|
chris |
now, what you can do is make a new filter |
| 00:39 |
|
chris |
marc |
| 00:40 |
|
chris |
[% marc_record | marc %] |
| 00:40 |
|
chris |
that would be pretty sweet :) |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
Wow, that would be cool. |
| 00:41 |
|
chris |
it sure would |
| 00:41 |
|
chris |
and would be a cpanable module too i imagine |
| 00:42 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
ooOOoo |
| 00:42 |
|
chris |
how about [% marc_record | dublin_core %] |
| 00:42 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:42 |
|
jcamins |
How about jcamins figures out how to make his page do something other than populate the title box? ;) |
| 00:42 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 00:46 |
|
jcamins |
Ooh! I made it pass all the parameters back to the template! |
| 00:49 |
|
cait |
jcamins: now I want to start to program something too... |
| 00:49 |
|
jcamins |
But how do you choose something from a dropdown menu? |
| 00:50 |
|
chris |
set the chosen one? |
| 00:51 |
|
jcamins |
Yes, but I'm not getting the values from the database yet, so how do I set the default when the page loads based on what was previously selected? |
| 00:51 |
|
cait |
selected="selected"? |
| 00:51 |
|
jcamins |
cait: you should! But not tonight, isn't it 0100? |
| 00:51 |
|
chris |
yup |
| 00:51 |
|
cait |
not sure what you want to do |
| 00:52 |
|
cait |
3:02 |
| 00:52 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 00:52 |
|
cait |
I am on vacation, adjusting to nz time ;) |
| 00:52 |
|
chris |
[% FOREACH variable IN array %] |
| 00:53 |
|
chris |
[%IF somecondition %] |
| 00:53 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. |
| 00:53 |
|
chris |
selected="selected"> |
| 00:53 |
|
chris |
in code that actually works :) |
| 00:57 |
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| 00:58 |
|
darling |
jcamins, sounds like what you want to do would better be handled at the jquery layer -- unless you're just having a play around |
| 00:59 |
|
jcamins |
darling: I'm making a mock-up of my simple catalog interface. |
| 00:59 |
|
jcamins |
However, I think I might use jQuery anyway. |
| 00:59 |
|
jcamins |
After all, it's not like I actually know how to use jQuery, either... |
| 00:59 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 00:59 |
|
darling |
http://visualjquery.com/ |
| 00:59 |
|
darling |
^ is slightly out of date but helped me a lot |
| 01:00 |
|
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:03 |
|
cait |
hmpf |
| 01:03 |
|
cait |
had to restart access point |
| 01:05 |
|
chris |
i think thats a sign to sleep :-) |
| 01:05 |
|
cait |
hm soon |
| 01:06 |
|
jcamins |
darling++ # 'cause it only took a few minutes to implement in jQuery |
| 01:07 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 01:09 |
|
darling |
sweet - it's the ice cream, keeps my brain cool and useful |
| 01:09 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
^.^ |
| 01:11 |
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| 01:13 |
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| 01:13 |
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cait |
chris: perhas you are right |
| 01:14 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 01:16 |
|
* cait |
is looking at the hotel with street view |
| 01:17 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 01:17 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, what am I missing here? |
| 01:17 |
|
* robin |
probably saw it from the street today :) |
| 01:18 |
|
jcamins |
Oh. To set a parameter with cgi you do $cgi->param('language','eng'). |
| 01:18 |
|
cait |
robin: hmpf ;) |
| 01:19 |
|
robin |
cait: whilst eating ice cream with darling, chris, and wizzyrea_ et al. :) |
| 01:19 |
|
cait |
hm, don't think so, my hotel is in auckland ;) |
| 01:19 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
cait: I can't wait for you to get here |
| 01:19 |
|
cait |
me too :) |
| 01:19 |
|
robin |
ah, then not so likely. But, you aren't commuting from there to the conference, I hope :) |
| 01:19 |
|
robin |
it's a 12 hour train ride, after all :) |
| 01:20 |
|
cait |
robin: doing the road trip before the conference |
| 01:20 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
how did I miss the fact that there was a train from auckland to wellington? |
| 01:20 |
|
cait |
so if I don't get lost during that, I will be there |
| 01:21 |
|
darling |
wizzyrea_, it's not very direct, but is worth doing |
| 01:21 |
|
robin |
wizzyrea_: because the plane takes about 1 hour, the train about 12 :) |
| 01:21 |
|
robin |
it's more of a tourist trip than a serious method of travel |
| 01:21 |
|
robin |
still good though. |
| 01:22 |
|
robin |
especially if you're a tourist :) |
| 01:22 |
|
darling |
i plan to be a tourist |
| 01:22 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea_: http://bit.ly/dxa7YR if you want to visit cait when she gets to her hotel |
| 01:22 |
|
chris |
4 mins :) |
| 01:23 |
|
chris |
actually 6 cos its uphill, 4 for her to visit you :) |
| 01:23 |
|
darling |
pink and I have decided to visit 10 semi-random cities in NZ in the next year |
| 01:23 |
|
cait |
where are you staying liz? |
| 01:24 |
|
robin |
darling: I find just getting in a car along with a tent and sleeping bag is quite fun. |
| 01:24 |
|
cait |
chris: do you know the bus station I have to get out? the maps are confusing me a bit right now |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
to your hotel? |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
ill find it |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
whats the name of it again? |
| 01:25 |
|
cait |
best western |
| 01:25 |
|
cait |
I thought you perhaps had already looked it up |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
president eh? |
| 01:25 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
cait: right now I"m at the Quest Wellington |
| 01:26 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
but will be at the conference hotel next week |
| 01:26 |
|
darling |
robin, jan and I are too fragile for that |
| 01:26 |
|
cait |
ah, west plaza? |
| 01:26 |
|
darling |
(yeah, I know -- oops, wrong country..) |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
cait: if ( $marcflavour eq "MARC21" ) { |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
lol |
| 01:26 |
|
cait |
? |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
thats not what i meant to paste |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
yea, westplaza |
| 01:27 |
|
cait |
ok, so I am not that tired ;) |
| 01:27 |
|
chris |
http://bit.ly/d2AWn1 |
| 01:27 |
|
chris |
stop 7053 |
| 01:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: hotel assignment by MARC flavor? that seems a little extreme |
| 01:27 |
|
cait |
cool |
| 01:27 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: least it wasnt dewey, id get sued |
| 01:27 |
|
cait |
not sure I have seen that option on our maps |
| 01:28 |
|
chris |
its pretty cool |
| 01:34 |
|
jcamins |
http://demo.cpbibliography.com[…]dbiblio-simple.pl |
| 01:34 |
|
jcamins |
(no login required because it has nothing to do with Koha at the moment) |
| 01:34 |
|
chris |
ill buy that for a dollar |
| 01:35 |
|
chris |
(10 points if you know what movie that is from) |
| 01:38 |
|
braedon |
robocop? |
| 01:38 |
|
jcamins |
I didn't know before I Googled it. |
| 01:38 |
|
* braedon |
cheated too |
| 01:39 |
|
* cait |
wonders why her submit button has a german label |
| 01:39 |
|
braedon |
is cait german? |
| 01:40 |
|
* braedon |
is out of ideas otherwise |
| 01:40 |
|
cait |
lol |
| 01:40 |
|
jcamins |
Because I didn't put any label attribute in. |
| 01:40 |
|
cait |
ah, a browser thing |
| 01:40 |
|
robin |
cait: yeah, in English it's 'Submit', in Nederlands 'Query Verzenden'...I think it's what the browser does if no text is provided. |
| 01:42 |
|
cait |
jcamins: I really like the idea, our libraries would love it for fast cataloging |
| 01:42 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, chris is here! |
| 01:42 |
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cait |
we have the fast add framework, but it's still very confusing for them |
| 01:42 |
|
chris |
yeah, lots of corporates and special libraries would love it too |
| 01:42 |
|
jcamins |
chris: wouldn't this be a great place to use MARC-keyword mappings? |
| 01:42 |
|
chris |
it certainly would |
| 01:43 |
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jcamins |
That's how I think I want to do it. |
| 01:44 |
|
jcamins |
Have keywords for "Author," "Title," etc. |
| 01:45 |
|
jcamins |
Because otherwise the MARC21 and UNIMARC will just have to duplicate code like in the COinS function. |
| 01:45 |
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chris |
yup |
| 01:46 |
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jcamins |
I think I prefer having a single box for Title, and parsing it on ISBD punctuation, because more often than not, I think, this would be used to only enter the subfield $a. |
| 01:46 |
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braedon |
jcamins: wait, weren't you just talking to chris just before? |
| 01:47 |
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jcamins |
braedon: yes, I was. That was an "oh, I should take advantage of this because tomorrow morning he'll be asleep if he has any sense at all" moment. |
| 01:47 |
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braedon |
lol, kk |
| 01:48 |
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cait |
sleep? |
| 01:48 |
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* cait |
looks a bit confused at jcamins |
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| 01:52 |
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wizzyrea_ |
chris: btw, I giggled inside a little when we were in the library: issues and fees, indeed. ;) |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
:) |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
yeah if you want to check out you go to a grocery store |
| 01:53 |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ verified as truth |
| 01:53 |
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wizzyrea_ |
or a hotel |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
yup ;) |
| 01:55 |
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cait |
ok, time to sleep :) |
| 01:56 |
|
chris |
sleep well |
| 01:56 |
|
cait |
more packing, laundry and planning later today :) |
| 01:56 |
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jcamins |
Good night. |
| 01:56 |
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chris |
1 more day? |
| 01:56 |
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cait |
yeah, my trip will start tomorrow now |
| 01:56 |
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cait |
hm scary :) |
| 01:57 |
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jcamins |
Hm, keywords don't support fixed fields. |
| 01:58 |
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| 02:06 |
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jcamins |
Figures that UNIMARC and MARC21 put the language code at different offsets in their respective fixed fields. |
| 02:07 |
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chris |
:) |
| 02:08 |
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jcamins |
I think probably I'll need to modify the authority chooser to allow the user to choose which type of authority. |
| 02:08 |
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jcamins |
Because adding radio buttons to the author and subject fields would be ugly and confusing. |
| 02:08 |
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chris |
hmm true |
| 02:09 |
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jcamins |
Which means I have to figure out where the heck that authority chooser is. |
| 02:09 |
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chris |
you're on your own there |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins |
What, you don't know off the top of your head where it's hidden? |
| 02:11 |
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chris |
nope |
| 02:11 |
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chris |
somewhere under cataloguing/ |
| 02:11 |
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chris |
is my guess |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins |
authorities/auth_finder.pl |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins |
Which is also kind of logical, if you think about it. |
| 02:15 |
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jcamins |
Shouldn't be too hard to change it to support choosing an auth type. |
| 02:15 |
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rich-away is now known as richard |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: is this for your simplified interface? why not have it tell the authority finder what the appropriate heading type to look for is? |
| 02:17 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: I don't like the idea of having a radio button for "corporate author," "personal author," or "meeting author." |
| 02:17 |
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gmcharlt |
ah, I see - perhaps have it search all three at once? |
| 02:17 |
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gmcharlt |
and whatever the user picks, select 100, 110, or 111 accordingly? |
| 02:18 |
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jcamins |
If I understand how the searches work correctly, it can only search one at a time, which means the user has to choose. |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
it's just a matter of having the search do the equvalent of auth_type=personal or auth_type=corporate or auth_type=meeting |
| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
Of course, that might not be an absolute requirement... certainly I like your idea a lot better. |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
instead of just auth_type = foo |
| 02:20 |
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jcamins |
I think I'll do that instead. |
| 02:20 |
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* jcamins |
changes his TODO list. |
| 02:24 |
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jcamins |
And, on that note, I think it's bed time. |
| 02:24 |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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Amit |
heya chris |
| 03:00 |
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chris |
heya Amit |
| 03:00 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hey amit |
| 03:00 |
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Amit |
heya wizzyrea_ |
| 03:00 |
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Amit |
chris: Next month India vs NZ series |
| 03:01 |
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chris |
have you seen how we are playing?? |
| 03:01 |
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chris |
we will lose horribly |
| 03:01 |
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Amit |
yup |
| 03:01 |
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Amit |
against Bangladesh |
| 03:01 |
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Amit |
hmm |
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Oak |
\o |
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CGI133 |
hello |
| 05:45 |
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CGI133 |
I am new here |
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CGI133 |
how are you guys |
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indradg |
good morning #koha :) |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
hi indradg |
| 06:16 |
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indradg |
chris, heya! was there a small quake yesterday / today in NZ? |
| 06:16 |
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* indradg |
thinks he saw something in friend's tweet from Christchurch |
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magnus |
g'day #koha - D-1 - yay! |
| 06:33 |
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chris |
indradg: there have been lots since the big one |
| 06:33 |
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indradg |
i see |
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chris |
http://www.christchurchquakemap.co.nz/ |
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magnus |
cool visualisation |
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magnus |
is christchurch generally the most active region, or is it just a coincidence that they are getting it now? |
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chris |
nope, it pretty much never gets earthquakes |
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chris |
wellington is far more active |
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chris |
but it had one big 7 |
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chris |
and then tons and tons of aftershocks |
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magnus |
yeah, about 2000 according to the map |
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magnus |
but the ones in wellington are usually smaller? |
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chris |
well we had a big one in 1840 |
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chris |
and are about due another one |
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chris |
we sit on 3 fault lines |
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magnus |
oops... |
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chris |
magnus: http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Lea[…]arthquakes/Videos |
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magnus |
chris: cool and crazy! |
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magnus |
"New Zealand - naturally disastrous" - not the perfect slogan for tourism, perhaps? ;-) |
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chris |
hehe |
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wonders how wizzyrea's dinner with jransom is going |
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larsw |
magnus, depends on the target audience -- I have friends who track active volcanoes and would visit each one if their spouses would let them |
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chris |
they went to http://www.leuven.co.nz/ |
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chris |
heya larsw |
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larsw |
hi, chris |
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chris |
hows the haggis today? |
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larsw |
is the kohacon now on? |
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chris |
next week |
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magnus |
larsw: yeah people have different priorities - i know some people come here to experience storms and "bad weather" ;-) |
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chris |
ndf is on now, thats why jo is in town and wizzyrea and her family are sightseeing before the conference |
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magnus |
ndf? |
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magnus |
national digital...? |
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chris |
http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/What[…]10Conference.aspx |
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larsw |
chris, ah, cool |
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larsw |
Helsinki is also cool. perhaps even cold. |
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magnus |
helsinki is always cool! ;-) |
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larsw |
it is sometimes uncomfortably hot, too |
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chris |
ohhh you are in helsinki, thats right |
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larsw |
until tomorrow only |
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magnus |
i like helsinki - it's a bit like oslo, only on a bigger scale |
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chris |
i must warn wizzyrea about this |
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chris |
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/[…]-item.php?id=4179 |
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magnus |
that's the kind of thing it's good to know about in advance, yeah! ;-) |
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chris |
did you get any sleep cait ? :) |
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not sure |
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cait |
but I woke up before my alarm clock |
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cait |
hm free wifi on the airport flyer bus? |
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chris |
in wellington yep |
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chris |
http://www.valleyflyer.co.nz/a[…]airport-flyer.php |
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magnus |
hiya cait |
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cait |
I think I will take the bus... :) |
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cait |
hi magnus! |
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magnus |
to bad if the free wifi is only ni wellington... |
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magnus |
s/ni/in/ |
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magnus |
(the knights who say "ni") |
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cait |
ah, right... |
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cait |
magnus: when do you leave? |
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magnus |
but i'll take the bus anyway, unless the weather is really foul |
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magnus |
i leave from home at about 0600 tomorrow morning, and you? |
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cait |
I will leave at 1400 |
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cait |
1 hour train ride to airport |
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magnus |
i have 12 minutes by car to the airport... |
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cait |
hmpf :) |
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cait |
no, first bus to the main station (15 minutes) and after that 1 hour by train |
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bigbrovar |
Bonjour everyone |
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cait |
hi bigbrovar |
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magnus |
hi bigbrovar |
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paul_p |
D-1 |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
when are you leaving paul_? |
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cait |
ah, you arrive at 22nd right? |
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slef |
I see the French government say there is no air fuel shortage. |
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slef |
hi all |
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paul_p |
cait, We (hdl & me) leave tomorrow. 5PM Marseille, Amsterdam, Kuala Lumpur |
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paul_p |
slef, yes, but fortunatly, I won't go through Paris (not Air France, but klm) |
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cait |
ah, not much later than me, flight leaves 1930 |
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cait |
but you arrive later? |
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paul_p |
I just checked this morning, & Marseille <=> Amsterdam is OK |
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slef |
Who could get rhcl.org to redirect kohacon.org to kohacon10.org.nz for now? |
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paul_p |
cait, we stay 30hours in Kuala Lumpur |
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cait |
oh |
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slef |
Also, I just tried to send a message through the website contact form and I can't tell if it was sent or not. |
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paul_p |
much easier to deal with jet lag when having a good night in a good bed in a good hotel ;-) |
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slef |
paul_p: won't that give you just enough time to overcome jetlag and then you get more jetlag? |
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magnus |
paul_p: good thinking! |
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paul_p |
slef: kuala-lumpur <=> NZ is just 2 hours more jet lag. I did that when I wen to New-Caledonia (30hours stop in tokyo), it's much better I think |
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paul_p |
and that let you almost 1 day for tourism ;-) |
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slef |
flying is always as bad as I think |
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slef |
I hope no-one is using Air France :) |
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cait |
they sent our suitcases to helsinki... |
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chris |
slef: yeah i got the message |
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has some traumatic memories of travelling with air france |
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chris |
forwarded it to kristina |
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cait |
they should have arrived with us in st petersburg, not helsinki |
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slef |
chris: cool. Some feedback on the page would be nice. |
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chris |
yeah, probably wont bother now |
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slef |
cait: that's what they're famous for! |
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slef |
tip: never blink as you hit minimise on a window. It's really disorientating! |
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cait |
chris: still around? |
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magnus |
hiya nengard |
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nengard |
Hiya!! 2 days til I leave!!!!! |
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cait |
hi nengard :) |
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cait |
TOMORROW!! |
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nengard |
hi cait! |
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nengard |
:) WOO HOO |
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magnus |
hee hee - in 1 day i have already left! |
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* cait |
is so excited |
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nengard |
does anyone actually feel prepared? |
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nengard |
I'm sure not |
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cait |
poor magnus |
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magnus |
nope |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
lol |
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magnus |
poor me? |
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cait |
yep |
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magnus |
oh |
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cait |
because I am distracting you from work all the time and you are the first person my excited self will meet in nz :) |
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magnus |
hehe, i'm looking forward to that! ;-) |
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cait |
1 eur = 1.84 nzd |
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cait |
wrong window |
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cait |
hi jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi cait -- not left yet? |
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slef |
nengard: No and now I've got a bloody meeting which I'm late for anyway! |
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slef |
bbl |
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cait |
jwagner: no, tomorrow |
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cait |
my whole apartment is filled with freshly washed wet clothes, suitcases and piles of things I want to take with me |
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* jwagner |
teleports to Germany & hides in cait's suitcase.... |
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cait |
yeah, you can hide in the suitcase, druthb chose the hand luggage ;) |
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jwagner |
Either would be more comfy than the office this morning -- there was a plumbing problem on the floor above us, so we have massive (loud) fans trying to dry everything out. No equipment lost, but a lot of drywall is going to need to be replaced. |
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imp |
yay |
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imp |
did they drill holes into the drywalls to ventilate them? |
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jwagner |
I don't know -- happened over the weekend. There's a lot of drywall missing from the lower parts of the walls, so I think they just removed it altogether. |
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imp |
sounds like fun ;) |
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jwagner |
And after about half an hour of listening to those fans, I'm already about to scream. I may head back home and work from there for the duration.... |
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imp |
.oO(there's a reason why i carry earplugs in my backpack) |
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jwagner |
I have good headphones, but I don't think they'll help. One of the fans is about five steps from the door of my office :-( |
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cait |
ok, have to do some last minute errands - ttyl :) |
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magnus |
jwagner: ouch! |
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jwagner |
magnus, yes, it's a big mess.... |
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jwagner |
But there's a reason they put equipment up on racks :-) |
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warns everyone who thinks it's a good idea to put computers and other equipment on the floor -- it's not! |
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nengard |
hey owen |
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owen |
Hi nengard |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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Hi kmkale |
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brendan |
morning |
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hi all |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.9�C (6:15 AM PDT on October 18, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (2:50 PM CEST on October 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (2:00 AM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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wanders off to do some serious packing |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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brendan |
morning jcamins |
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owen |
jcamins++ # for pointing out on list that corporate and independent entities are already collaborating on Koha quite well |
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jcamins |
owen: yeah, I just find the whole idea that we don't work together baffling. |
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owen |
I think it's more likely that PTFS doesn't want to give anything away unless their interests are protected in a way that makes sense to their corporate brains |
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kmkale |
owen re bug 4440 some of the invalid markups are in the "reverse" link. Should I go ahead and correct these too? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4440 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED, Adding feature to print fines/fees receipts |
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owen |
kmkale: I'd say yes |
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kmkale |
ok. |
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jcamins |
Good morning, sekjal |
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sekjal |
morning, jcamins! |
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jcamins |
Did I correctly understand from your Twitter post that UMass gives away staplers? |
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kmkale |
there are still two errors 1) Line 201, Column 37: there is no attribute "autocomplete" 2) Line 417, Column 7: document type does not allow element "tfoot" here both not in my patch.. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: the Library did, as part of the university's Open House event. mini-staplers, mini highlighters, bags and candy |
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sekjal |
(in addition to, you know, information) |
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* jcamins |
is very jealous... all he got from his alma mater was a lousy piece of paper |
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owen |
kmkale: You can always ignore the "autocomplete" error. |
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kmkale |
owen: ok. what about the tfoot one? |
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owen |
<tfoot> is supposed to come right after <thead> in your markup. I know that seems wrong, but that's what the standard says. |
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kmkale |
owen: its there before my patch. should I let it be or move the whole tfoot section right after <thead>? |
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kmkale |
humph there is no <thead> in boraccount.tmpl atleast |
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kmkale |
so I guess just let it be.. |
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owen |
The validation errors can be treated as a separate bug, as long as you're not introducing new errors |
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kmkale |
ok. |
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sekjal |
jcamins++ (I'm catching up on the listserv posts) |
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jcamins |
Wow, I think those messages were good for my karma. |
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nengard |
So did you all see the comment by the library student who's professor told her that Koha isn't an ILS?? http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4200 |
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nengard |
I'm waiting to hear back on why the professor thinks that |
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owen |
Maybe it doesn't cost enough |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
nengard: by the way, http://demo.cpbibliography.com[…]dbiblio-simple.pl |
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nengard |
jcamins cool :) - take a look at the form on LibraryThing and Open Library also - to get ideas |
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jcamins |
Good idea. |
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indradg |
jcamins, its serious business, in India AICTE which affiliates all technical education in India actually doesn't count s/w which does not come with paper licenses, EULA and purchase receipts as s/w :( |
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jcamins |
That was me figuring out how to use Template::Toolkit. |
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jcamins |
indradg: That's absurd! |
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drulm |
yo |
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* jcamins |
looks at LibraryThing and Open Library |
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jcamins |
Ooh, the LibraryThing interface is snazzy. |
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indradg |
jcamins, thats a sad fact of life that we are lobbying against |
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drulm |
on librarything's website? or something new in Koha? |
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jcamins |
On LT's website. |
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drulm |
thx |
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indradg |
jcamins, your "patch" would be highly welcome one aming a lot of people I know here |
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jcamins |
An imitation by yours truly will follow... eventually. |
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indradg |
among* |
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indradg |
people that the MARC21 interface is keeping away :) |
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Oak |
\o |
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jcamins |
indradg: I need to have an initial version by the end of next weekend, so it will hopefully be available for testing next week. |
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jcamins |
Well, certainly it will be available for testing. |
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jcamins |
Hopefully it will *work*. |
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jcamins |
I see LibraryThing has separate boxes for Main and Added entries. |
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nengard |
I think that Open Library does too |
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nengard |
not on the initial add form: http://openlibrary.org/books/add |
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nengard |
but on the form after you click 'add' |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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* jcamins |
will check that... he thought that title, author, publisher, and date were the only options. |
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kmkale |
does sending a mail via git send-email to koha-patches lists.koha-community.org add the patch to the http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4440 page? Or do I have to add a comment and attachment there separately? |
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munin |
Bug 4440: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED, Adding feature to print fines/fees receipts |
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jcamins |
You need to attach it separately. |
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kmkale |
ok. |
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jcamins |
The JavaScript look-up is nifty, but I don't think that is within my immediate capability. |
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kmkale |
Done. owen may I request you to have a look whenever you have time? |
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owen |
Sure kmkale |
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kmkale |
thanks owen |
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bye all |
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hi #koha |
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magnus |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi magnus |
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yhager |
@wunder nelson bc |
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magnus |
try the zip code? |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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@wunder Auckland |
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paul_p |
bye everybody. Next time i'll write on this channel, it will be from New Zealand :D :D |
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slef |
wow - bye paul_p |
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jcamins |
Bye, paul_p. |
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owen |
Happy travels paul_p |
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jcamins |
Have a safe trip. |
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cait |
bye paul |
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slef |
safe journey! |
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cait |
save travel |
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slef |
lazy paul_p, not working from airports? ;-) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I should start packing... |
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slef |
start!?!? |
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slef |
I should finish work... |
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slef |
back from meeting... not a complete waste of time, but not a great time for me to be there |
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cait |
slef: I have piles of things lying around |
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cait |
but nothing has made it into the suitcase yet |
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chris |
@wunder wellington,nz |
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jcamins |
Good morning, chris. |
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chris |
http://www.metservice.com/nati[…]-nz-colour-latest |
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chris |
high working its way towards us ...yay! |
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chris |
heya jcamins |
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cait |
hi chris and jcamisn |
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joetho |
when connecting to my Koha server SIP2 service, the thirdparty application doesn't ask for a user- just a SIP2 password. This doesn't seem compatible with koha- or am I all wrong? |
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joetho |
to clarify, I am referring to the configuration of my thirdparty application. That configuration asks for server location, port #, dbname, and password. No user. |
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chris |
that doesnt sound compatible with SIP2 |
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chris |
you can connect without a username and password, but afaict the standard doesnt allow for connection with a password but no user |
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chris |
is it just using some hardcoded user when it actually connects? |
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joetho |
that's what I think too |
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joetho |
this application doesn't have a really great track record. |
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joetho |
and yes, hardcoded user is what it looks like it expects, and I need to know which hardcoded user that would be. |
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joetho |
thanks chris |
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slef |
joetho: you could run netcat or socat listening on the SIP2 port and try to imitate a SIP2 server :) |
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chris |
:) |
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joetho |
Liz is now Liznz! |
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chris |
yup, had lunch with her yesterday, and thatcher and spud |
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chris |
and she had dinner with jransom |
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jcamins |
May I just state, if a 80- or 90-something-year-old patron can walk into the library and figure out how to use the Koha OPAC when I tell him he needs to use that instead of the card catalog, I think that indicates that Koha is doing something right. |
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slef |
oh yeah - anyone want to go for dinner after conference days? Or sort that out when we're there? |
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slef |
biab |
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chris |
joetho: http://twitter.com/#!/wizzyrea/status/27719420192 |
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joetho |
hmmm. thanks slef (re sip2 pw), but I think the answer lies somehere in my application. |
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nengard |
slef no plans here - i figure i'll plan it all when i'm there |
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chris |
slef: im sure people would be keen |
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chris |
my idea was write stuff here |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n10_Social_Events |
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chris |
that seems to work pretty well for linuxconf |
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cait |
no plans, but I would like to |
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chris |
jcamins: thats awesome! |
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cait |
travelling alone, so I am happy about company :) |
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brendan |
seeing everyone getting ready to go to NZ - is really hitting home - I want to go |
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owen |
Tell me about it |
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brendan |
owen++ #just because |
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joetho |
Leavin, on a jet plane. |
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* chris_n |
wishes there was underwriting for live streaming of kohacon |
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joetho |
Big ol jet airliner. |
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joetho |
Steam powered aeroplane. |
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joetho |
Silver wings. |
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joetho |
Sigh. |
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joetho |
well I am verrrrry pleased that Kansas has sent someone, and what a great representative we have sent. |
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joetho |
Plus, she got to take her nanny. |
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joetho |
whoops I mean her husband |
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cait |
joetho: you are confusing me |
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cait |
but that's easy today :) |
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cait |
are you talking about liz? |
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jcamins |
cait: joetho was joking that Mr. wizzyrea is in NZ to take care of Baby wizzyrea ;) |
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cait |
ok |
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tcohen |
hi, how can I efectively delete several biblios from a koha install? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: Record->Delete Record? |
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jcamins |
Or do you mean you have a lot to delete? |
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tcohen |
yes, but I have a lot |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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tcohen |
for example every record whose itemtype is "SER" |
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slef |
chris_n: aren't we live streaming? (does the venue have wifi?) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I think there's probably an obvious way, but I'm not sure what it is. |
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slef |
and if it has wifi, will I upset them streaming video out? :) |
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tcohen |
I can read the koha code for that, just asking jic someone has "the proper way of doing it" |
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tcohen |
just in mind |
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slef |
I've got something really odd going on - I can't POST web forms. |
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nengard |
slef it sounds like wifi might be iffy |
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tcohen |
is it ok to: (1) save a list of biblionumbers from biblioitems (2) delete them, (3) delete those biblionumbers from 'biblio' ? |
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slef |
nengard: oic. FWIW I have one phone setup to broadcast to bambuser.com/m/mjray and I know there's another phone I could ask to use. |
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cait |
I think the problem is histories and items |
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slef |
sorry, bambuser.com/m/channels/mjray |
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cait |
tcohen: check for existing items too and in old issues etc. perhaps better move them to deleted_...? |
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cait |
and rebuild index |
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tcohen |
I have 2k registers I need to delete, they can be catched with a WHERE clause over biblioitems |
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chris_n |
slef: I think it is a cost-of-bandwidth issue iirc |
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impatiently waits for 11.6 million lines of logs to process |
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tcohen |
cait: thank, i'll see haw can I do it |
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chris |
We should have wifi, but yeah saturating it won't make ppl happy |
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chris |
International transit is the kicker |
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chris |
If you could stream to an nz box, that repeated it |
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chris |
That might be workable |
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chris |
We do plan to professionally record it all |
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chris |
To dv |
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chris |
Which we'll burn to dvd for ppl to take back to offer for download in their countries |
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* chris_n |
will look forward to digesting it afterwards |
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* jcamins |
, too |
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* jcamins |
wonders, sometimes, whether normalizing his authorities isn't a fool's errand |
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jcamins |
Hm. Don't hit Shift-Enter when you're using the auth_finder. |
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cait |
did it explode? |
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slef |
chris: cool. I'll ask BR if he can collect a DVD off me at the airport, and/or should we host a torrent tracker? We used to do that for some things. Not sure if we still have the service up. |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah. |
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jcamins |
It opened up a new window for the results, and then when I tried choosing an authority, a bunch more windows opened up, and nothing happened. |
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jcamins |
I guess it wasn't that exciting. |
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chris |
That might work slef |
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* cait |
offers jcamins a lebkuchen |
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chris |
Reed is trying to get some 2degrees sponsorship,/its pretty unlikely tho |
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slef |
probably someone (archive.org? sf.net? gnu.org?) hosts community torrent trackers these days |
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chris |
Luckily |
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chris |
We have someone from openlibrary ie archive.org |
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chris |
Presenting |
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chris |
So we can ask her :) |
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slef |
nah, I'll ask the lazyweb now ;-) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
Ok time to catch my bus |
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leo |
hi to everybody! |
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cait |
hi leo |
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leo |
i'm having problems with the authorities search when adding a new item (I run the merge_authority.pl & the don't merge OFF) |
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leo |
i mean i have authorities but koha don't find them |
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jcamins |
leo: Koha doesn't find any of your authorities, or just not new authorities? |
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leo |
doesn´t find any |
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leo |
in marc100 |
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leo |
Personal name |
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jcamins |
Does it find when you try to authorize 650s? |
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* chris |
clocks in from the bus |
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leo |
jcamins where I can find it? |
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chris |
And are using zebra? |
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jcamins |
leo: in the cataloguing module. I meant, are you able to authorize Topical terms? |
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leo |
yes |
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leo |
ah ok just gime me a second |
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leo |
the search in the topical items doesn´t work too |
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chris |
And you indexed the authorities eh? |
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chris |
Oh and what version of koha? |
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leo |
3.00.06 |
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leo |
i m running only the rebuil_zebra.pl -v-r-a-b |
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leo |
with a cron |
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leo |
sorry rebuild |
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chris |
My stop bbiab |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
hi richard |
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richard |
hey chris |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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chris |
have you packed yet cait ? |
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jcamins |
cait: gee, thanks, what did I do? |
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cait |
blog |
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cait |
ironing |
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cait |
hm. swap. |
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jcamins |
Oh, right. Someone on one of my cataloging mailing lists said "I really want to use Koha, but I don't know anything about Linux," so I thought it was time to finish up the blog post. |
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jcamins |
I also need to write my posts on Git, maybe Vim, patches/diff, Perl, XSLT, HTML/CSS/JavaScript, SQL, Zebra/Z39.50/Bib-1/CQL/PQF, MARC, and maybe IRC. |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
if you can explain MARC in one post |
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chris |
you're a hero! |
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jcamins |
chris: oh, no, my goal is just to provide a convenient reading list. |
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chris |
ahhh :) |
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jwagner |
MARC: an intensely complex metadata standard designed to confuse everyone in the world except hardcore catalogers who can't see what the problem is. |
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* jwagner |
notes that some of my best friends are hardcore catalogers |
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jcamins |
MARC: an elegantly simple metadata standard ruined by unfair requirements that it describe real works and not hypothetical perfect works. |
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* magnus |
all packed and ready to go |
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chris |
:) |
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brendan |
man - what brilliant librarians idea was it - to charge fines (personally I can't stand fines) |
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chris |
im betting it wasnt a librarian |
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chris |
but some accountant |
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brendan |
ok I should adjust my statement - charging fines is so bunk |
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chris |
you can basically trace all the worlds problems back to accountants |
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chris |
:-) |
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* magnus |
wishes everyone a good night or other time of the day of their choice - see some of y'all real soon now! |
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chris |
cya magnus :) safe travels |
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magnus |
thanks |
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cait |
ah, now I missed magnus |
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chris |
you'll see him on the plane? |
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chris |
or not until nz? |
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cait |
in the hotel in nz |
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chris |
ahh |
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cait |
he arrives some hours before me |
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cait |
at the hotel... |
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cait |
in? |
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chris |
at |
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cait |
thx |
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jcamins |
Interesting fact (unrelated to prepositions): when you search for "aat" in the authorities on the Staff Client, it returns records with "at." |
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jcamins |
"att" does not. |
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chris |
yeah i think its doing left truncation |
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jcamins |
Is it supposed to do that? |
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chris |
well we told it too ... but im not sure why ;) |
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* jcamins |
shrugs - well, it won't search $7 no matter what I do. |
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chris |
you've changed the zebra files and reindexed eh? |
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jcamins |
No, I thought it did by default, and I have confirmed it doesn't. |
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chris |
ah right |
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jcamins |
I shall have to consider whether I care that much. |
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cait |
@wunder wellington nz |
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cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder auckland nz |
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cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 12.8�C (3:45 PM CDT on October 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.11 in 985.7 hPa (Falling). |
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* moodaepo |
might not be in Wellington but got close enough with the weather. |
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chris |
heh |
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jcamins |
Time to set the type for my wedding announcements! |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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cait |
good night jcamins |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.9�C (1:57 PM PDT on October 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
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slef |
back |
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slef |
hrm, TV claims French short-haul flights disrupted tomorrow. Hope paul_p and hdl are OK. |
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mib_kggqy |
hey guys, i'm getting the following error when trying to check an item out that i have on hold http://pastebin.com/SSiANypz |
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mib_kggqy |
koha version is latest git |
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chris |
hmm, and you have a branch set? |
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mib_kggqy |
chris: yep, i only have one branch though |
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chris |
i wonder if that might be it, do you have single branch mode switched on? |
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mib_kggqy |
chris: i have it set to "allow patrons to select their branch.." |
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chris |
hmm, so not that then |
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chris |
and it only happens if the item has a hold on it? |
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mib_kggqy |
chris: no it happens when i try to check out anything |
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chris |
hmm, well i have 4 libraries running it in production, and they would have killed me by now if that was happening to them .. so we now just have to figure out what is different :) |
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chris |
items have a home and current location set for them? |
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chris |
(it uses the branchcode of either the item or the one you have set in circulation, to decide on the issuing period) |
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chris |
im guessing that somewhere its not getting a branchcode |
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mib_kggqy |
well |
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mib_kggqy |
current location and permanent location are set |
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chris |
im guessing maybe borrower then |
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mib_kggqy |
but if i view the item in admin , the home library field under item information is blank |
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chris |
ahhh that'd do |
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chris |
it |
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mib_kggqy |
is there a marc field for this? |
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chris |
thats permanent location |
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chris |
does that branch exist? |
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chris |
ie in the branch set up, is there one that matches the code that is in permanent location? |
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mib_kggqy |
yes, that was the problem |
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mib_kggqy |
i guess since there was only one value for the option field, it was showing by default my single library |
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chris |
ahh |
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chris |
cool |
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mib_kggqy |
i just clicked edit and save and then it was showing a value for the home library field |
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chris |
sweet |
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chris |
and now you can issue it? |
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mib_kggqy |
yep |
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chris |
yay! |
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chris |
glad it was something simple like that |
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mib_kggqy |
yeah, thanks for the help! |
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chris |
no worries |
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slef |
argh! hackfest! |
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* slef |
checks details |
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chris |
? |
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slef |
"More details will be availble as we get closer to the time" |
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slef |
erm, a bit running out of time |
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chris |
yeah like 2 mins before |
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slef |
like, are there computers there? |
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chris |
3-day developer conference, 29 October - 31 October |
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chris |
some |
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chris |
but if you have a laptop, id bring it |
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slef |
The battery connector is dodgy. Will there be power there? |
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chris |
yes |
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chris |
its at catalyst |
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slef |
ok... I think battery capacity sucks anyway |
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robin |
slef: assuming you have an NZ power adaptor |
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slef |
robin: we have world power adaptors! |
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robin |
then you're sorted :) |
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chris |
we will be using the training room, which has laptops, but its always more productive on your own machine |
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slef |
AUS/NZ bent pin thingy |
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slef |
looks decidedly unsafe |
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slef |
you need some nice chunky rectangular pins |
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robin |
the pins aren't bent, just rotated :) |
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slef |
chris: you don't know how often I nuke that machine ;-) |
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slef |
ok, I'll probably decide this depending on how much cabin baggage space/weight I have left :) |
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robin |
slef: also make sure that it won't explode in a ball of flaming laptop if it gets exposed to real voltage :) |
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chris |
:) |
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slef |
robin: I thought you celebrated guy fawkes too? |
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robin |
ah, you're UK. I assumed you were in the US for some reason. |
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robin |
as you were then |
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slef |
oh are you 220v? |
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robin |
230-240 or something like that |
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slef |
I think we're nominally 220, often 230-240 |
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slef |
yay for EU fudging |
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robin |
The UPS nearby is reporting 233 at the moment |
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slef |
NZ power supply is 10A? wimpy |
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robin |
slef: that's the standard, yeah. |
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robin |
It's more that's what things are rated for, unless they have a need for more. |
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slef |
robin: so I'm expecting less powerful hairdryers and slower kettles. |
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robin |
I'm not sure, but 2.4kW sounds like a lot for a hairdryer. |
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chris |
another biggish quake in christchurch |
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robin |
On the "how down is geonet" earthquake scale, it must be fairly severe. |
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chris |
6 is what im hearing |
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chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ums/mqz-drum.html |
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robin |
GNS hasn't said yet how strong it is (according to Stuff,) but the boxes on the map look like 6 or more. |
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chris |
yup |
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slef |
:-/ |
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cait |
:( |
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chris |
ahh, gns are saying 5 |
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chris |
thats a lot better than 6 :) |
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robin |
ah right |
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chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]uakes/latest.html |
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chris |
actually no, that might be one before it |
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chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ums/mqz-drum.html |
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chris |
oh no, thats it it 11.32am .. cool |
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robin |
and the next article on stuff is "Demolition of one of Christchurch's most famous buildings, Manchester Courts, is underway." |
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robin |
I guess that's going easier than they expected |
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chris |
he |
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chris |
h |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-Christchurch 5.0 it is |
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slef |
unfortunately, the demolition machinery is also demolished, but you can't have everything |
