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Genji |
Hiya all! |
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Genji |
How do i do: if session param libraries_set not set, goto opac-chooselibraries.pl else goto opac-main.pl, upon login? |
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a redirect |
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Genji: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2caff;hb=HEAD#l86 |
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Genji: http://search.cpan.org/dist/CG[…]EDIRECTION_HEADER |
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schuster |
chris - sorry to bother you but do you happen to have a copy of the schedule from KohaCon09? Due to some company things and shared google docs and a wiki move |
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schuster |
all of those links are gone. |
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ryanb006 |
Hi, I've just migrated my library to Koha 3.00.06, and it's working great except patrons can't place holds on any materials in the OPAC. When they try to place a hold, it says "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." and under the "place hold on a specific copy" it says "Unavailable (lost or missing)". None of our items are marked missing, and RequestOnOpac is turned on. Any idea what is going on? |
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schuster |
Just checking to see if it existed anywhere else! |
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robin |
ryanb006: check to ensure you have circulation rules that let them place a number of holds greater than zero. |
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schuster |
ryanb006 - check an item out and see if you can place a hold on it. |
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schuster |
do you want them to be able to place holds if the item is on the shelf? |
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ryanb006 |
Robin: I will check that. Schuster: I tried both an item on the shelf and and item checked out, and neither one works. Both say "lost or missing". |
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schuster |
hmmm did you have anything in the subfield one of each of the 952 fields when you loaded it? |
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schuster |
You may want to edit an item record and see what is in the subfield 1 - if it is blank then all should be working. If there is something selected there... that is why you are getting that error. |
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ryanb006 |
Ok, I'll check one of the items. |
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schuster |
best I could do sorry. |
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ryanb006 |
Subfield 1 is blank...so not marked lost... |
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ryanb006 |
Robin: Where do I check that the holds allowed is > 0? |
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robin |
ryanb006: in koha 3.2, it's Admin->Item circulation and fines rules |
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robin |
but that may have changed since 3.0, I'm not sure. |
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ryanb006 |
Ok, I see at the bottom of that screen a section about holds, but it is just no holds allowed, allowed from any library, or allowed from home library for particular item types. I can't get it to set for "any item type". |
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ryanb006 |
I mean "all item types" |
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robin |
not sure, I guess that's all changed since 3.0 |
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chris |
schuster: http://librarypolice.com/wiki.[…]renceprogram.html |
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ryanb006 |
Ok, thanks robin and schuster! I'm going to leave it alone for the night and get a fresh look at it tomorrow. Thanks again! |
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chris |
something useful to do, would be to shift that to the new wiki, we were in the process when someone turned the old one off |
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chris |
did you see that schuster ? |
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schuster |
OK yes I did you are awesome as always thanks. |
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schuster |
Sorry to missing coming to NZ... Just couldn't swing that on my own and my wife would have hung me out to dry with the 2 boys during school... one is playing soccer and the other football and we are going non stop almost every night. |
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chris |
yeah, wont be long til im doing the same :) |
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schuster |
Are you all going to try and do something like this: http://www.coveritlive.com - for KohaCon10? |
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schuster |
I think Liz put it together on the fly for KohaCon09 - and I didn't even know it was there! |
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chris |
yeah im thinking that or this |
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chris |
http://tweetnest.bigballofwax.co.nz/ |
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chris |
but for #kohacon10 instead of just following me |
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schuster |
it is fun... Especially if your kids are any good at it and luckily my kids come by it naturally with no help from me... your kids will be at an advantage as you understand the rules and would probably be able to teach them something! |
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chris |
the nice thing is it archives it all away for ever too |
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robin |
You don't mean having one of those displays running behind the presenters, do you? They're a terrible idea. |
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chris |
no |
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chris |
we didnt do that |
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robin |
oh good :) |
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schuster |
Cool - as long as Liz can put links to the conference up so people can get to it easily on koha-community.org. |
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chris |
but coveritlive allows ppl not there |
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chris |
to at least get a nice feel for whats going on |
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schuster |
We did put it up during the breaks though on the first day so people knew it was there and could follow it. the venue we had was awsome for this type of stuff. |
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schuster |
Not that I'm biased or anything to a facility we have here in Plano... ;) |
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robin |
Just so long as it works with identi.ca, otherwise it doesn't count :) |
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chris |
yeah it should |
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chris |
http://www.coveritlive.com/ind[…]th=470&height=550 |
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schuster |
KUDOS is kicking around the idea of a spring meeting in the US.. NOT a KohaCon but a KUDOS conference, but we would welcome international presentations etc.. if we can get it going... |
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chris |
cool, let me know |
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schuster |
Will do - we are thinking early May but are still trying to get our ducks in a row organizationally. |
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chris |
cool |
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chris |
someone needs to pitch for kohacon11 |
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schuster |
OK I have to grade some graduate student papers tonight so better get busy. I knew you would be on now so thought I would ask for your help which you are always so gratious to provide with the right answers! |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2011_Proposals |
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chris |
if you can shouldertap anyone |
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schuster |
Well - maybe we push KUDOS and KohaCon11 together... The annual thing for international is hard unless we can do some things and have decent internet at a hotel/conference center and use is 10-7 one day and 8-5 another or something and do more video conference type stuff. |
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schuster |
We had talked about doing a virtual conference here in the fall, but we just couldn't get that together with what we are trying to do with KUDOS. |
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chris |
yeah virtual is expensive |
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chris |
maybe one kohacon in europe then back the us the year after |
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chris |
give everyone a turn |
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schuster |
Well not really if you have the right tools at your disposal and the institutions behind it.... |
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chris |
since magnus and paul, and slef and cait etc are flying this far this time round |
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chris |
schuster: here it is, just because of hte bandwidth required |
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schuster |
Yeah Europe would be great if KohaLA would be able to step up... |
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chris |
you can get that cheap |
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chris |
here, its stupid expensive for international bandwidth |
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schuster |
Ah... See here I don't think international - we just use it, but... I don't deal much with international stuff... Once it leaves Plano ISD I don't understand what happens! |
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schuster |
But as you know our pipe is BIG... |
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schuster |
thanks for the chat... Off to grade those Graduate papers - wanna be librarians! |
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chris |
:) |
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heya chris |
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hiya Amit |
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good morning #koha |
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Salam to all |
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yourasifk |
hope some one can solve my problem |
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im trying to import serials record with holding inoformation |
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bib data is imported but the holding doesn't can any body help me in this regard |
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hi #koha |
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hi all |
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hi kmkale |
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hi hdl |
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hi kmkale |
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hi Amit |
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owen |
Hello #koha |
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jwagner |
Hi owen |
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ivanc |
hi owen |
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kf |
hi owen, jwagner and druthb .. and everybody else .) |
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Nate |
Hi Owen and kf |
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Nate |
and jwagner and ivanc |
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Nate |
and everyone else :) |
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kf |
:) |
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hi Nate, kf |
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hi everyone |
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hi |
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cabillman |
Hello, is anyone aware of any open bugs regarding the 520 fields not showing up in the description section of opac-detail.pl? It only happens on some items. |
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cabillman |
for 3.0 .x |
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owen |
cabillman: Is your catalog online for us to see examples? |
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cabillman |
yes, but I think I have a patch that fixed the problem |
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owen |
That was fast :) |
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cabillman |
I wish :) I have been looking at it for a few hours |
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cabillman |
I think I have the original file, let me check quick |
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cabillman |
https://library.pennmanor.net/[…]blionumber=103230 |
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cabillman |
that one is broken |
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cabillman |
https://library.pennmanor.net/[…]blionumber=103230 |
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cabillman |
is patched |
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* owen |
recognizes those tabs :) |
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cabillman |
I hope you don't mind that I used them |
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owen |
Not at all! |
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owen |
cabillman what do you mean by "patched?" |
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cabillman |
it just has the changes i made to opac-detail.pl |
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owen |
Oh I see, you swapped the file out. I thought you were showing me two simultaneous examples. |
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mirbolt |
hi there, can anyone tell me roughly what the min sys requirements are for a koha installation on debian lenny for a collection of about 100,000 bib records? |
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owen |
cabillman: If you think this is a consistent bug (one that affects all 3.0.x users), you can file a bug, create a patch for your changes, and attach your patch to the bug report |
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cabillman |
nope. Same biblio but one is the stock 3.0 opac-detail.pl |
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owen |
http://bugs.koha-community.org |
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cabillman |
Should i email koha-patches as well? |
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owen |
Yes you can do that too |
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cabillman |
Sounds like a plan. I'm not exactly sure why this patch changes the behavior though |
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cabillman |
instead of doing template->param( normalized_oclc => GetNormalizedOCLCNumber($record,$marcflavour) ) |
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cabillman |
i save the result in a variable first |
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cabillman |
and pass that to the template |
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owen |
As far as I can remember normalized_oclc is only used by Syndetics enhanced content |
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cabillman |
I had to change both the call to normalizedOCLCN and normalized upc |
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cabillman |
I also can't figure out how to duplicate it. It only seems to be some of our biblios but I can't find a consistent pattern. |
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cabillman |
I will open the bug and attach the patch explaining everything |
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cabillman |
Thanks for your help |
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owen |
cabillman: For what it's worth, if I grab that record via z39.50 in my 3.0.6 test installation I see the same problem: no description |
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owen |
mirbolt: You could check out this thread from the koha-devel archive: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]March/009306.html |
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reva |
hi all, good morning. I have a question as to which tar.gz of the Koha 3.2 I should download from the community download page? |
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owen |
koha-3.02.00-beta.tar.gz if you want the beta release of 3.2 |
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joetho |
good morning, |
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owen |
Hi joetho |
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joetho |
anybody in here have any experience migrating the ILS "Concourse" (vendor=Book Systems) into Koha? |
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reva |
thanks owen: but I find 4 choices under the Beta. (ex: there is gz.sig; and gz.md.asc.) Which one? |
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owen |
reva: The one I said |
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reva |
owen: so I just download the plain tar.gz from the beta 3.2; just confirming my understanding of what you said. |
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reva |
ok. got it. |
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owen |
http://download.koha-community[…]02.00-beta.tar.gz |
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reva |
Thanks owen: I have downloaded the Debian (http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian-c[…]6-i386-CD-1.iso); I hope that is the only one I need as there were quite a few Cds in Utexas mirror. How about the Apache HTTP server; which version? |
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owen |
reva have you looked at this? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8d3c59d7;hb=HEAD |
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reva |
I am not sure owen: Because I had the idea to install the 3.2 when we go into production only recently; the Live CD 3.0.6 has been a serious contender. But now I will go through the page you just gave. |
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owen |
reva: That document is intended to be a start-to-finish guide. You'll probably find things you need to ask questions about, but it will give you most of what you need |
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reva |
Yea; jacamins gave me the page just day before yesterday. So I will read through that first before asking questions. |
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reva |
owen: do I have to install Debian from the business card version CD? Or can I download a full CD iso, burn it on a CD and install it? (we do have pretty stable connection, but frequently there is a lot of congestion.) |
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owen |
I think either one is fine |
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reva |
Ok, because I was the eager beaver and started downloading the regular CD image. Thanks. |
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larsw |
reva, either Debian ISO image is fine; in fact, the smaller images (business card and netinst) are usually recommended, so you don't have to install a lot of stuff you won't need: the full ISO image probalby has a lot of packages you won't be installing, especially on a server |
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kf |
travelling tomorrow - have a nice weekend all :) |
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larsw |
however, the full CD and DVD images are good for people to get if they are bandwidth-starved and can get them without using the scarce bandwidth (e.g., via snailmail) |
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reva |
larsw: thanks. We are on a peer-group network, so no server. And we will be using one of the workstations as the "admin" console. Debian/Koha will be residing as a "dual boot", along with the windows XP OS on the machine. So questions: the other workstations are windows Xp. How would I give them access to Koha? |
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reva |
What I mean larsw: is we will be either booting into XP or Debian/Koha. In such a situation, how would I give access to staff client on another workstation which is running XP? |
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see you #koha |
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owen |
reva: Others won't be able to access Koha if the server isn't running |
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owen |
The server won't be running if you're booted into Windows |
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reva |
owen: so basically, if I have the Koha running on my 'admin" console (which acts as my server), others would be able to access the staff client or OPAC on their workstations. But if I am running my XP on the console, the other workstations will not have access to Koha. Understood. The other workstations are running XP, but would not be an issue? |
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owen: If the answer to my first question is "yes they can use it even if they are on a station running XP", I have a further question: Our admin workstation has: 2.53 Ghz processor and 1.98 RAM; would I be taxing if there are two simultaneous staff client users on two workstations? |
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reva |
I meant if the answer to my LAST question, not first, of course, owen: |
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owen |
I don't think it would be too taxing but I'm not an expert. Two users is a very small number! |
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reva |
Ok, so I assume that it does not matter the my peer-group LAN stations are running XP, I take it only the machine in which Koha is installed it has to be running Debian? |
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owen |
Yes, but you'll have to be sure to configure your Debian machine to accept connections from your other machines |
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reva |
Ok, I will configure enable Debian to accept network clients. Though I am too far away from that yet.:0 |
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also, what would be an ideal partition size for the Debian? We will be creating maybe a 1000-1500 records, so I know our catalog part of it is going to be rather small. Though we do not have too much free room on our C drive currently, we can add to make room for Debian/Koha |
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reva |
Hi again, I have a record which only has a 245 (Title proper) and an author added entry (710 corporate author) in it. But it is showing as if it is the main author. It shows like this: Establishment and management of a national standards body. by International Organization for Standardization . Why is it not showing as related author lable? |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2267759f1ea465e80 |
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chris_n |
@later tell hdl my mails to patches@... seem to be landing in jail lately; could you look in on the problem? tnx |
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munin |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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chris |
and so i begins |
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chris |
s/i/it/ |
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cait |
chris: what begins? |
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chris_n |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion#United_States |
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owen |
"[Liblime] would expect permanent representation on its board of directors. Initially, LibLime would request 40 percent of the positions in the board of directors" |
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chris_n |
yes, that would present a problem if all major contributors required a permanent, 20% share of board positions |
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* chris_n |
thinks the board would be an ever-growing monstrosity |
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brendan |
board-- |
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chris |
monsters-- |
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* chris |
lightens the tone |
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brendan |
well monsters are cool sometime (but that's only in books and movies) |
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chris_n |
unbridled_government-- |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_Not_To_Form_One |
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chris |
you know, slef said that self selecting permanent things were a reason why foundations are bad |
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chris |
i should listen to him more |
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owen |
Imagine if the original Liblime had gotten permanent representation on a Koha board? |
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chris |
please feel free to add to the reasons not to form one, if you have any |
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chris |
well the thing to remember, so we dont get too upset |
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chris |
is that no one has to listen to the board anyway |
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chris |
certainly any board that has permanent rep for anyone, im not interested in |
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* owen |
thinks we should all add our of proviso's demanding permanent representation on the board owing to our significant contributions |
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chris |
the gpl2+ allows us to just do our own thing anyway |
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chris |
i mean we have to buyin before it has any say.. and at any time we can opt out |
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chris |
but i do think it is sending a clear signal |
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chris |
of intentions, and thats good |
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chris |
i read it as an intention to replace the existing roles, with board elected ones, and wrest control of the project from the community |
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chris |
and anything that is going to be involved in 'managing' rather than just a place to store stuff safely does not interest me at all |
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chris |
</rant> |
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chris |
and putting on my vendor hat |
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chris |
any vendor not represented by the board has a huge disadvantage |
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chris |
so we need permanent spots for all 28 |
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chris |
</vendor_hat_off> |
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chris |
and thats ridiculous :) |
| 19:19 |
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owen |
And new permanent spots for all new vendors! |
| 19:19 |
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jcamins |
As a kind-of-Koha-vendor, I would share the concerns of your vendor hat. ;) |
| 19:19 |
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chris |
i really think its trying to solve a problem that doesnt exist |
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chris_n |
imaginary_problems-- |
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chris |
the problem that exists, is that one company has property that the community sees as shared property |
| 19:20 |
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chris_n |
there are enough real ones to contend with |
| 19:20 |
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chris |
thats easily solved |
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jcamins |
As someone who values his sanity, I would prefer not to have an active foundation. Boards cause headaches. |
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chris |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
and what about contributing libraries? |
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chris |
they dont count cait |
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jcamins |
(with all due respect to the HLT board... I think they must all be Saints) |
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chris |
no intellectual property dont you know |
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cait |
chris: I don't hink we need an foundation |
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chris |
if you just buy something, that gives you eminently more say than the people who thought it up, and specced it, and paid for it |
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* chris |
is being sarcastic |
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cait |
why are some people so eager to have one? can't we just act as a democracy like we do in meetings? |
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chris |
exactly |
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chris |
im with you |
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chris |
i would just like a place to put things, like the tm and domain name |
| 19:23 |
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jcamins |
Also, just so no one says they weren't warned, executive secretaries and executive directors are expensive! |
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cait |
we are not so many people that this is over complicated, perhaps sometimes make votes on the mailing lists or like we did when we voted for hlt |
| 19:23 |
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chris |
so we dont have to worry about them, and then just get on with workng on koha, |
| 19:23 |
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chris |
usually we come to consensus fairly easily |
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chris |
the license being an exception :) |
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chris |
but on the things that matter, what goes in a release, who is release manager, etc |
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chris |
we work those things out without a board telling us |
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chris |
sorry, im talking to much |
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* chris |
stops |
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jcamins |
Did we ever get an explanation of why LL thinks there should be a foundation? |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
not really, I think some people talked about getting funds for things? |
| 19:26 |
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owen |
It's their condition for donating the Koha trademark |
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owen |
(and koha.org, etc.) |
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cait |
but can't you get funds with a local user group like kudos perhaps too? without 'governing' the project? |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_Not_To_Form_One |
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chris |
point 5 |
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chris |
KUDOS could get money for US libraries |
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chris |
Kohala for french |
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schuster |
someone - don't remember who - talked about having a foundation so that part of its function would be to pay an independent RM for the project and that would be their full time job. |
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chris |
pooling donations to pay for that would be good, could still do that with spi of softwarefreedomconservancy |
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chris |
dont need an active foundation, with any say in who that rm is |
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cait |
to make him independent everybody should have the same vote in this foundation |
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chris_n |
good point chris |
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cait |
which makes it difficult I think |
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chris |
all you need for that is a bank account really |
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chris |
which is what sofware in the public interest etc get you |
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* chris |
simplifies |
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chris_n |
probably some sort of escrow account |
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jcamins |
Well, in the US you also need a tax ID. |
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chris |
gets you that too :) |
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chris_n |
spi is in the us |
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chris |
its a nice idea |
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chris |
i dont think we wll have the money to do it in the near future |
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jcamins |
I started typing in response to "all you need for that is a bank account really." ;) |
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* chris_n |
agrees that a paid rm might help |
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chris_n |
wonderful thing... irc |
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chris |
fwiw im being paid to be RM |
| 19:32 |
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chris_n |
everybody can talk at once and be understood... most of the time anyway ;-) |
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chris |
parttime at least |
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owen |
What we have are "sponsored" RMs, and I'm not sure we could do it any other way |
| 19:33 |
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owen |
Is someone supposed to be paid to be RM full time? Who gives up their regular job for it unless it's permanent? |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
the nice thing about the way dev works |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
is everyone can see |
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cait |
owen: good point |
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chris |
theres no hiding decisons |
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chris |
what goes in, is totally transparent |
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chris |
and thats why im still here |
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chris |
3933 days, 2:45:22 later |
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* chris |
<3 gitstats |
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* jcamins |
was kind of wondering about the precision |
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jcamins |
:) |
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chris |
time of the first commit, to my last commit |
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* chris |
gets sucked into reading stats again |
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owen |
2453 days, 23:27:55! |
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chris |
hehe |
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chris |
2003-10-31 thats a while agon now |
| 19:40 |
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owen |
Took me a minute to count the scratch marks on the side of my wall |
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cait |
2453 days? |
| 19:41 |
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chris |
300 days, 22:21:51 |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
for you cait |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ster/authors.html |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
what did I do on these 300 days? |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
and is this an anniversary? :) |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
thats the time between your first commit and the latest commit of yours in master |
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chris |
active days, 15 |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
ah |
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chris |
so you made a commit on 15 different days |
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chris |
and 22 in total (that have been pushed theres about 10 more to go) |
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cait |
ohloh knows about 22 commits... |
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cait |
hm only 10? :) |
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chris |
ohloh tracks master |
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* chris |
was guessing about 10 |
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cait |
I know, I think one is missing, because I send it as "root" |
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cait |
ok, 12 waiting and more to come :) |
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chris_n |
980 days, 3:01:46 |
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* chris_n |
feels young still |
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owen |
munin should wish us all happy anniversaries on the anniversaries of our first commits |
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munin |
owen: Error: "should" is not a valid command. |
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cait |
300 is a nice number |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
could be more patches... |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
I really have to find someone to do these organisational things for me... so I find finally some time to write patches |
| 19:47 |
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* cait |
grumbles a bit |
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* collum |
wants 1.29% of the seats on the board of directors. :) And needs to stop doing home repairs and start sending more patches to koha. |
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jcamins |
2:16:24! |
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jcamins |
:D |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
ok bus time |
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chris |
bb from on the bus, 3g permitting |
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* chris_n |
thinks the board percentages ought to be based on first on good standing and second on % of commits... ;-) |
| 19:52 |
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cait |
the more I think about a fair way .to build a board, the more I think the foundation thing is not a good idea |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: the problem with that is then paul_p, chris, owen, gmcharlt, and hdl wouldn't have any time to spend on Koha. |
| 19:53 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 19:53 |
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owen |
We'd be too busy ruling with iron fists |
| 19:53 |
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gmcharlt |
*thud* |
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* chris_n |
can hear the whip cracking now |
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chris_n |
work code mules, work!! |
| 19:54 |
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owen |
Cheese it it's gmcharlt ! |
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* owen |
looks busy |
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chris_n |
bye alan |
| 19:54 |
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* gmcharlt |
uses his awesome power to will the 'wthdrawn' typo directly out of existence |
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cait |
lol |
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owen |
It's not a typo, it's time-saving efficiency! |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
Gee, my board memberships only give me the power to produce paperwork. |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
I'm jealous. ;) |
| 19:55 |
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chris_n |
and endure boring meetings |
| 19:56 |
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chris_n |
hence the name 'board' |
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jcamins |
Okay, I'm jealous of chris_n, too... my board memberships don't come with the power to endure the meetings they require, either. |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
46443 lines added - yay :) |
| 19:56 |
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chris_n |
or is that describing the thickness of such members? |
| 19:57 |
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chris |
Heh |
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rhcl |
chanting...SPI~~~SPI~~~SPI~~~SPI~~~ |
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chris |
I wonder if anyone is gonna comment. I don't think ill bother |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
I'm thinking about asking that LibLime clarify their stance on *why* this is necessary. |
| 20:00 |
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owen |
It really is galling that their intellectual property is worth more than all our years of work. |
| 20:00 |
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reva |
Good afternoon, was wondering should I set the type of control (Leader/09) to MARC-8 or UCS/Univode? Thanks. |
| 20:00 |
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owen |
jcamins: Because it's the only conditions under which they'll release the Koha trademark and koha.org domain to a third party |
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chris |
Unicode reva |
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owen |
Those are actions we've asked them to take jcamins |
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owen |
jcamins: So they're saying, "Okay, if you want 'em here's what you have to do." |
| 20:02 |
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reva |
Thanks owen: I thought as much because who uses 8 bit coding anymore? |
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chris |
I think the answer is in nz speak 'yeah .... naw' |
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zico |
hi |
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zico |
I am having a weird problem with PO file |
| 20:04 |
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zico |
I am trying to enable Arabic font in my Staff |
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chris |
http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]e?term=yeah%20nah |
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zico |
I am downloading the PO file from http://translate.koha.org/ar/intranet3_0/ |
| 20:05 |
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zico |
but.. when I go to add that PO file in my system |
| 20:05 |
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zico |
it shows me the error that ... "CORRUPTED PO FILE or not even PO file" |
| 20:05 |
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zico |
what`s wrong? |
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chris |
Its probably corrupt |
| 20:06 |
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chris |
Someone might have uploaded a corrupt version |
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chris |
Ill try to have a look when I get to work |
| 20:07 |
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zico |
As it mentioned there... you have already "chris" reviewed that! :) |
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chris |
Some ppl edit with text editors and aren't careful |
| 20:07 |
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chris |
Yeah I removed spam from it |
| 20:08 |
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chris |
But haven't tested it |
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zico |
is it possible to get the correct PO arabic file by tomorrow? |
| 20:08 |
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chris |
It doesn't log if someone uploads a new one |
| 20:08 |
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zico |
I have a big workshop in which I have to show demonestration on Koha |
| 20:08 |
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chris |
Only if someone edits it in the web interface |
| 20:08 |
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chris |
Look in git |
| 20:09 |
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chris |
In the 3.0.x branch |
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reva |
owen: Is it automatically set to the code "a" for unicode, because though there is a drop down choice and it "seems" like MARC-8 is selected, it shows "a" for Unicode in the Leader? |
| 20:10 |
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owen |
reva: No idea. |
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zico |
owen: what`s the address please? |
| 20:11 |
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owen |
Why is everyone talking to me? |
| 20:11 |
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reva |
Ok, anyone else? Just curious; because it always shows "a" for Unicode, why there is a drop down for it in the Leader Builder? |
| 20:12 |
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reva |
Ok owen: I said anyone else?:) |
| 20:12 |
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chris |
Do my messages show up as owen or something? |
| 20:12 |
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zico |
chris: sorry owen... it would be chris |
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zico |
chris: what is the address please? |
| 20:13 |
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chris |
I'm on my phone too hard to look |
| 20:13 |
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chris |
But look in the git repo |
| 20:13 |
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owen |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=refs/heads/3.0.x |
| 20:14 |
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chris |
Thanks owen |
| 20:14 |
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zico |
Thanks owen |
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owen |
That's it for me. See y'all later |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
Hi richard |
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richard |
heya chris |
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* chris |
gives richard 20% |
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richard |
heh |
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* cait |
tries to bribe the board members with cookies |
| 20:28 |
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zico |
nah! I have downloaded PO file from git too |
| 20:28 |
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zico |
but.. it`s not working |
| 20:29 |
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zico |
I have downloaded from http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9655ecbfeb33a22dc |
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jcamins |
cait: you mean I have to choose between wanting cookies and not wanting to be on another board? |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
hm you are right |
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cait |
better bribe everyone with cookies, just for the case they will get on the board at some time |
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jcamins |
:D |
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chris |
how are you trying to install it? |
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chris |
Ok my stop |
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chris |
Bbl |
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sekjal |
goodnight, #koha! |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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zico |
chris: my command is this |
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./tmpl_process3.pl install -i /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/ -o /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/ -s /home/mohib/Desktop/misc_translator_po_ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po -r |
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zico: which version of koha? |
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cait: 3.0.6 |
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./tmpl_process3.pl install -i /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en -o /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE -s /home/koha/po/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r |
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cait |
thats what I use |
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chris |
yes |
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http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ |
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chris |
i would talk to this guy and ask how he does it |
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chris: that will be great! Otherwise I have to install Koha each and every 30 machines in Workshop lab |
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cait |
good night all! |
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chris: if you know by tomorrow... can you let me know over email? my email address is: mailzico gmail.com |
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it will be really helpful for whole workshop where more than 60 participants will come from all over the country of Bangladesh |
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zico: you should ask him |
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email him |
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chris |
because i have a go live on monday, so will be pretty busy myself |
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chris: I have been searching for his email address... but... cannot find it there in his blog |
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:( :( |
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http://twitter.com/Mizstik |
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maybe send a message on twitter |
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Hi all |
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Good to read PTFS laying their cards on the table about whats required if they are to give the domain name back. |
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yeah its nice that its all out in the open |
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we now know exactly what the price is and can decide accordingly. |
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I respect that honesty. |
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*nod* |
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so if PTFS get 40% of seats for buying the domain url how many should HLT claim for starting this all off, and naming it etc etc |
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jo must go away now before i start getting bitchy ... |
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:) |
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well, I think the math works out to 60%, right? :) |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.9�C (3:42 PM PDT on September 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). |
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russ |
hey jo - just got your phone message, yes i want you to do that :-) |
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sorry was in a meeting |
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np |
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just mking sure left hand and right stay in sync :) |
