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ENTS |
Hey everyone, I just downloaded the koha appliance and ran the update. I am getting the producion mode trapped fatal error after loggin in to the web portal and starting the setup. Is this normal? |
| 00:20 |
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chris |
have never used the appliance, so i dont know im afraid |
| 00:21 |
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* chris |
installs from source of from debian packages |
| 00:21 |
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chris |
look at the apache error logs, see what the error is |
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ENTS |
I have a debian box ready to go for this project but I'm not terribly good with linux so I thought the VA would be easier |
| 00:21 |
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Steven |
chris....need ur help |
| 00:22 |
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chris |
im at work, so only if its fast Steven :) |
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ENTS |
(late sunday work, sucky) |
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chris |
nope 12.25pm monday work actually |
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* chris |
has a meeting in 35 mins and needs to grab some food before then |
| 00:23 |
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robin |
ooh lunch. Good plan. |
| 00:23 |
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Steven |
wanna get some info about the AWS DevKey where we need to key in system pref in order to enable Amazon cover image |
| 00:24 |
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chris |
what version of koha Steven |
| 00:24 |
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Steven |
2.2.9 |
| 00:24 |
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chris |
thats very very old |
| 00:24 |
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chris |
and won't work with amazon |
| 00:24 |
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chris |
they changed their api |
| 00:24 |
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Steven |
i got 2 version...1 is 2.2.9.....another is 3.0.6 |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
3.0.6 might, i cant recall if the changes were made there |
| 00:25 |
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ENTS |
chris, would you recommend doing a .deb install over the pre rolled VA? |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
ENTS: i would |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
takes one layer of complication out |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
ie instead of having the VA and linux to worry about |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
you just have linux :) |
| 00:26 |
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ENTS |
I dont want to take your time, obviously you're busy this afternoon, could I bug you at another time to look at it? |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 00:26 |
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Steven |
chris: i m confusing with the AWS key ID...is the numerical ID or and apha key ID i should use? |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
have a look at that, that might help |
| 00:26 |
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ENTS |
the linux still lives on an ESX box, but I get what you're saying |
| 00:26 |
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ENTS |
ok |
| 00:26 |
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ENTS |
I'll start there |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
Steven: in 2.2.9 it doesnt matter, it wont work either way |
| 00:27 |
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Steven |
how about 3.0.6? |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
you need the AWSAccessKeyID and AWSPrivateKey |
| 00:28 |
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ENTS |
thanks for the help chris, I need to take off but I'll let you know how it goes in a couple days |
| 00:28 |
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chris |
both of which are alphanumeric strings |
| 00:28 |
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chris |
ENTS: good luck |
| 00:28 |
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Steven |
okok...and the amazon associate tag as well? |
| 00:29 |
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chris |
yeah thats what ever you associate tag is, thats not strictly needed i dont think, but doesnt hurt to have it |
| 00:30 |
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Steven |
icic.....i have just register with AWS...but i m not package with any product....is it ok? |
| 00:31 |
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chris |
should be ok |
| 00:31 |
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Steven |
bcoz i have try to key in both ID into system pref....and enable amazon in enhanced content.....it doesnt pull the image cover from amazon |
| 00:32 |
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Steven |
but google cover images working without any issues |
| 00:32 |
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chris |
do you have amazoncoverimages turned on and opacamazoncoverimages? |
| 00:32 |
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Steven |
yaya...both on.....while on the amazon...i disable google cover |
| 00:33 |
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Steven |
but it seems not working to me |
| 00:33 |
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Steven |
weird |
| 00:41 |
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Steven |
should i need to subscribe to any product in AWS to gain access of amazon cover images? |
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robin |
If anyone's interested, new versions of the Koha packages are being uploaded to http://debian.koha-community.org with all the latest master-branch goodness. |
| 02:18 |
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wasabi |
w00t, well done robin++ ! |
| 02:20 |
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robin |
and, upload complete :) |
| 02:23 |
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wasabi |
seriously, the deb packaging stuff you are doing is such a big win for the koha-project |
| 02:24 |
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* wasabi |
pumps fist-in-the-air like that steve.balmer video... |
| 02:24 |
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robin |
Yeah, it'll hopefully get rid of the hardest parts of getting a koha env set up, and keeping it up to date. |
| 02:24 |
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robin |
heh |
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wasabi |
developers, developers, developers!!! |
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wasabi |
w000000, give it up for ME!!!! |
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chilts |
only if you're sweating profusely and look like a big hairy monster |
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wasabi |
lol, pretty close.... ;) |
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Amit |
heya chris, brendan |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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chris |
morning |
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kf |
morning chris |
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magnus |
hiya kf, chris, hdl et al |
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kf |
hi magnus |
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kf |
hmpf. |
| 09:55 |
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chris |
heh |
| 09:55 |
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kf |
hi chris |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
wondering ... are list price and ordering price the same? |
| 09:56 |
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slef |
hi all. Anyone got skype and a moment to answer a call from me in a few minutes? |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
slef: sorry, no skype at work |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
working on acq documentation and speaking about the vendor form |
| 09:57 |
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slef |
I'm seeing if the sip-to-skype gateway is still up, but I don't know many skype users (understandable given the free software circles I move in) |
| 09:58 |
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chris |
kf: yeah i think so |
| 09:58 |
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chris |
slef: yeah no skype here either sorry |
| 09:59 |
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kf |
hmpf. ok, so why do we have to different terms for the same thing in one form? |
| 09:59 |
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slef |
asking reminded me that I forgot to switch my sip phone on this morning :) |
| 09:59 |
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kf |
to = 2 or two... |
| 09:59 |
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chris |
which form? |
| 09:59 |
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kf |
new vendor |
| 09:59 |
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chris |
ill go look |
| 09:59 |
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slef |
kf: someone didn't check ODLIS before writing one, possibly? |
| 09:59 |
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slef |
munin, odlis? |
| 09:59 |
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munin |
slef: Error: "odlis?" is not a valid command. |
| 10:00 |
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slef |
munin, what is odlis? |
| 10:00 |
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munin |
slef: Error: "what" is not a valid command. |
| 10:00 |
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slef |
munin, @roulette |
| 10:00 |
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munin |
slef: Error: "@roulette" is not a valid command. |
| 10:00 |
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slef |
munin, roulette |
| 10:00 |
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munin |
*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 10:00 |
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* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 10:02 |
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chris |
kf: yeah they are the same thing and someone just changed one, probably when it was being translated into americanese |
| 10:02 |
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kf |
ok, hmpf. :) |
| 10:02 |
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kf |
I can write a patch - but not sure which is the right one |
| 10:02 |
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kf |
Im also wondering about the tax registered thing -not sure what it is for |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
list price |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
you need that in nz |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
not sure about other countries |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
brb |
| 10:03 |
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kf |
slef: you agree? I found list price in odlis too, ordering price not |
| 10:04 |
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slef |
oh wait |
| 10:04 |
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slef |
are you sure ordering price is list price? |
| 10:04 |
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slef |
I think of ordering price = list price - discount |
| 10:04 |
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kf |
no, that was my first question |
| 10:04 |
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kf |
but I dont know about the difference (makes translation difficult too) |
| 10:04 |
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slef |
I missed that :-) I must pay attention. kf: which file? |
| 10:05 |
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kf |
new vendor |
| 10:05 |
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kf |
supplier.tmpl |
| 10:05 |
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slef |
ok, I can look in my next break... will that be soon enough? |
| 10:05 |
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slef |
(26 mins away) |
| 10:06 |
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kf |
no problem |
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kf |
just let me know, so I can write a patch (or add teh difference to my documentation) |
| 10:06 |
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kf |
I will go and have lunch - will be back in about 30 minutes |
| 10:12 |
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chris |
i think in the context of the vendor form its the same |
| 10:13 |
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chris |
thats how the code uses it anyway |
| 10:13 |
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chris |
it will use the currency chosen to convert the price, then if there is tax then subtract that, then remove the discount |
| 10:15 |
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chris |
to end up with the estimated cost, so the currency of list price and tax of ordering price are both used for the same thing |
| 10:26 |
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slef |
I bow to chris's reading of the actual code. Thanks chris. |
| 10:28 |
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chris |
np |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
back :) |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
so I will change ordering price to list price |
| 10:45 |
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chris |
interesting |
| 10:46 |
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kf |
hm? |
| 10:48 |
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chris |
just trying to find out when it was changed |
| 10:49 |
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kf |
I think the ordering prices were added later |
| 10:49 |
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kf |
and they only appear if gist is set in sys prefs |
| 10:49 |
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kf |
filing bug for list price/ordering price now |
| 10:50 |
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kf |
but have another question: my gist is set to 0.07 = 7% but vendor form shows 0 by default? |
| 10:50 |
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kf |
bug? |
| 10:53 |
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chris |
no, it allows you to set different values per vendor, if they arent set it uses the systempreference |
| 10:53 |
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kf |
yes, but why is ist 0 by default? |
| 10:54 |
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kf |
I think there should be no default? |
| 10:54 |
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kf |
or the default should be the gist setting |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
cos if its 0 it uses the default |
| 10:54 |
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kf |
hm |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
and why is it called gist??? |
| 10:54 |
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kf |
not sure |
| 10:54 |
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kf |
in German its MWSt - Mehrwertsteuer |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
in nz its GST |
| 10:55 |
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chris |
i think someone in france mistyped :) |
| 10:55 |
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kf |
perhaps - but gist is really old |
| 10:55 |
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chris |
it used to be gst |
| 10:55 |
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kf |
dont know, I know it as gist since 3.0 |
| 10:55 |
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chris |
yeah thats not really old :) |
| 10:56 |
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kf |
no, but as long as Im around here .) |
| 10:56 |
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chris |
it was gst up until 3.0 |
| 10:56 |
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kf |
ok, my previous patch touched the same file, supplier.tmpl |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
combine the changes into one patch or use a new branch with the file from master? |
| 10:57 |
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chris |
stored as gstrate in the db still, maybe ill fix gist for 3.4 |
| 10:57 |
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chris |
the latter |
| 10:58 |
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chris |
that way one not being accepted wont block both |
| 10:58 |
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kf |
ok |
| 10:59 |
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kf |
hm another question |
| 11:00 |
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kf |
List Prices or List prices? |
| 11:00 |
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kf |
the form uses both forms... Invoice Prices are and Invoice prices: |
| 11:00 |
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chris |
in a sentence the latter, for a heading on a form, doesn't really matter |
| 11:01 |
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kf |
but it should be consistent? |
| 11:01 |
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kf |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=2420 |
| 11:02 |
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kf |
sorry, getting lost in small problems today... easier to solve than those other things on my todo list |
| 11:04 |
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chris |
lower case p |
| 11:04 |
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chris |
i would use |
| 11:05 |
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kf |
ok |
| 11:05 |
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kf |
Perhaps we need a rule for that |
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chris |
hi nengard |
| 11:11 |
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nengard |
howdy |
| 11:11 |
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nengard |
magnus asked me to create an event for kohacon on facebook - this has been done |
| 11:11 |
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nengard |
http://www.facebook.com/event.[…]d=131876760187249 |
| 11:12 |
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chris |
if i was on facebook id look |
| 11:12 |
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chris |
:) |
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nengard |
i know |
| 11:13 |
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nengard |
but others in the chanel might be on facebook - so i'm just saying :) hehe |
| 11:13 |
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chris |
walled_gardens-- |
| 11:13 |
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nengard |
makes me money++ |
| 11:14 |
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chris |
no_respect_for_privacy-- |
| 11:14 |
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chris |
i could go all night |
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chris |
;) |
| 11:18 |
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magnus |
thanks, nengard - and i know everyone is not on facebook, but i guess there is no one channel that reaches everyone... ;-) |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
hi nengard |
| 11:18 |
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nengard |
chris i don't disagree with you, but i have no choice - libraries want to learn about it and i want to get paid to teach about it :) |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
nengard: List price or List Price? |
| 11:18 |
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nengard |
depends on how other things on the page are formatted |
| 11:19 |
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nengard |
if everything on the page is first letter caps then List Price |
| 11:19 |
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nengard |
if not, then match the style of the page |
| 11:19 |
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chris |
nengard: you should include this in your teaching, being responsible http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2[…]acebook-timeline/ |
| 11:20 |
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nengard |
i do have a lot of links to articles on privacy already - but 'll add this one if i can find room |
| 11:21 |
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chris |
thats probably the clearest indication there is of the move away from privacy, its pretty much all you need to read |
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kf |
nengard: ok, thx :) |
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slef |
yo... I'm on facebook and yes, it's evil. |
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kf |
I hope my facebook account is now deleted - not sure they really deleted all my data |
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owen |
They didn't kf |
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kf |
yeah... happy I had not much information in my profile |
| 12:17 |
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kf |
and hi owen :) |
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owen |
Hi kf and everyone |
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chris |
http://zesty.ca/facebook/#/131876760187249 |
| 12:26 |
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nengard |
can i just say that i love seeing all of your answering questions on the mailing list with links to the manual!! :) it used to only be me doing that |
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chris |
http://zesty.ca/facebook/#/1022734291/feed |
| 12:30 |
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* chris |
goes to sleep now |
| 12:31 |
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chris_n` |
nengard: see my comments on bug 3756 |
| 12:31 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference |
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nengard |
reading now |
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nengard |
commented |
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kf |
nengard: thinking about terminology - I have changed ordering price to list price in the vendor form, because slef and chris agreed it's the same and the form used list price in most places. Now I see that you enter a 'vendor price' in a new order - what to you think? |
| 12:56 |
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nengard |
i'd say those are the same too - vendor/list/ordering price |
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nengard |
or at least in terms of Koha they are |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
hm |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
technically list price is different from ordering/vendor price |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
i'm just using Koha language |
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kf |
so file a bug and suggest to change it to list price? or do you like vendor price better? |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
ah |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
i'd say vendor price |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
not a native speaker, but fighting with German acq documentation |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
across the board. the list price is the price it's supposed to be listed at - but vendors don't often charge that |
| 12:58 |
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nengard |
but i think koha is putting that value in the same place |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
ok, in Germany they do - we have fixed prices for books |
| 13:00 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
I just think different terms meaning the same are confusing |
| 13:01 |
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kf |
confusing translators like me and perhaps native speakers too :) |
| 13:04 |
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nengard |
i agree |
| 13:04 |
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nengard |
acq in general is confusing cause of all of the different ways people talk about these things |
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nengard |
i think vendor price might be the safest option |
| 13:05 |
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nengard |
that says to me the price the vendor is charging |
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nengard |
or the price the vendor has listed on their site or in their catalog |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
I will try to write a bug and suggest the change |
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kf |
writing on another bug report right now :) |
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jcamins |
Hello, #koha |
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nengard |
hello jcamins |
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nengard |
time for me to log off - teaching a webinar on open source software for libraries this AM - see you all this afternoon |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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slef |
I thought chris said it was the price before discounts => list price IMO |
| 13:16 |
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slef |
but I've not read the code for myself recently (yet) |
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kf |
slef: different page now |
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kf |
but it's still the price before discounts, just named differently again |
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slef |
I'm looking at ODLIS |
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slef |
It says in "list price"'s definition "Synonymous with published price and retail price" but I suspect this might be a subtle difference between "list price" and "retail price" |
| 13:20 |
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slef |
Creating a bug is probably a good idea, then email lists to ask about it? |
| 13:23 |
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kf |
*sighs* more work.. I knew it :) |
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kf |
working on 2 other acq bug reports, will try to write something up, but need comments from native speakers :) |
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kf |
slef: bug 5062 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5062 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acq terminology: list price, ordering price, vendor price, RRP |
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kf |
I even found two more terms, RRP and RRT - latter is perhaps a typo? |
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slef |
where is RRT? |
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slef |
(looking at bug) |
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slef |
'RRT GST Inc.' - yes, looks like it. |
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slef |
Also, Europe uses VAT instead of GST (if I understand General Sales Tax right) |
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kf |
slef: MWSt in German |
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kf |
slef: RRT is in the pdf |
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kf |
when you print your order to pdf using one of the two available layouts pdfformat::layout3pages |
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kf |
slef: have you booked your flight yet? |
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kf |
to kohacon - will book mine this week and it looks like I will fly from stuttgart to london first |
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wizzyrea |
i have got to get mine booked this week too. |
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kf |
wizzyrea: looking forward to meet you in person :) |
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* sekjal |
is working on booking his right now |
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wizzyrea |
I am too :) |
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wizzyrea |
plus the spud and the hubs are coming, that should be fun. |
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sekjal |
nice! I'm trying to coordinate with my wife's schedule. She's got a bunch of conferences, presentations and important meetings right around then, so it's a little tricky |
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wizzyrea |
traveling with an almost 3 year old is tricky too. |
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sekjal |
I don't envy you that |
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kf |
travelling all alone |
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wizzyrea |
^^ I think that would freak me out more. :/ |
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kf |
yep |
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slef |
kf: yes. priv msg? |
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kf |
slef: sorry, was afk |
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slef |
kf: np |
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wizzyrea |
hmm, is it documented anywhere that the value of $OPACBaseURL should not include the http://? |
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wizzyrea |
(if you put it in there, it breaks the "link to opac" links in XSLT intranet results) |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
indeed, in the description it shows http://<blank> |
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wizzyrea |
so it's assuming you're not adding it |
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wizzyrea |
no wonder it's broken on my install. |
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kf |
hm headache, leaving for today - bye all |
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wizzyrea |
must be the day for those |
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* wizzyrea |
has one too |
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kf |
the weather is changing |
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wizzyrea |
it better not be going from "hot" to "hotter" |
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kf |
just from heavy rain to sun today |
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* owen |
thinks it would be a shame if wizzyrea evaporated |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0�C (5:00 PM CEST on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder Lawrence, Kansas |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 28.7�C (10:12 AM CDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Falling). |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
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munin |
owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 23.9�C (11:05 AM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
wow, same barometric pressure |
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wizzyrea |
what are the odds |
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owen |
We're barometric pressure buddies! |
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wizzyrea |
I'm trying to come up with a witty joke, but failing miserably |
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wizzyrea |
something along the lines of "we work well that way" or something about getting the bends. |
| 15:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
might have had only about 30 minutes of sleep last night |
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owen |
Ouch. |
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Sham |
Quick question for ye learned gents - > Any idea how to add tags and subtags on the Staff OPAC? I can edit the MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl for User OPAC but this doesn't add anything in Staff? |
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wizzyrea |
try editing MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl |
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wizzyrea |
oh, but yea, you'd have to have 3.2 for that |
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wizzyrea |
or alphabeta or whatever it is now |
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wizzyrea |
beta, it's in beta. |
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Sham |
Only back on 3.06, any other file for that? |
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wizzyrea |
mmm I don't believe staff xsl was added until after that |
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Sham |
So I'm in trouble then!? |
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wizzyrea |
you can try editing prog/en/modules/catalogue/detail.tmpl |
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wizzyrea |
in intranet-tmpl, of course |
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wizzyrea |
< tired, sorry :( |
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kf |
wizzyrea: not sure it's only in beta |
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kf |
Sham: check our system preference for xslt |
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kf |
our = your |
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kf |
ok, I am still here ... :) |
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wizzyrea |
I thought that was added only in feb? |
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wizzyrea |
or was it backported? |
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wizzyrea |
rather, finally fixed in feb. |
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kf |
wizzyrea: I am not sure, but I think there were changes for xslt in 3.0.x |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/YmUwOThk |
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wizzyrea |
I just did a search in 3.2b for xslt, these are the results I got |
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wizzyrea |
if you have XSLTDetailsDisplay, that's the one you want to make sure is on |
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wizzyrea |
if you don't have it, look at the file I referenced earlier. :) |
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wizzyrea |
let us know if any of that helps you, Sham |
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Sham |
will do....just checking now! |
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owen |
I see the preference in my 3.0.x installation, and the xsl files, but I don't think the feature is complete. |
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owen |
I don't see any reference to the xsl preference in detail.tmpl in 3.0.x |
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wizzyrea |
I thought it was buggy until feb of this year |
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wizzyrea |
but idk really |
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chris_n |
heya cfouts |
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cfouts |
good day, chris_n |
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chris_n |
@wunder 2833 |
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@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Arcadia, Hope Valley, Rhode Island is 26.2�C (12:27 PM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling). |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.1�C (12:26 PM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). |
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jwagner |
Hey, chris_n -- remember I was asking you about label creator date searching last week or so? |
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chris_n |
yes |
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* chris_n |
is trying to get his brain cooled back down from a week in the extreme heat ;-) |
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jwagner |
It definitely has problems with 0000-00-00 date entries -- picks them up in a "date greater than" search. I still don't know if I'm missing a patch, or the problem is with the indexing, or what. |
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chris_n |
shouldn't zero entry dates be buggy data? |
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jwagner |
It is buggy data, but I wouldn't think it would be picked up in the search |
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jwagner |
When we did a SQL update & changed all the 0000-00-00 dates to something valid, they dropped out of the search. |
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chris_n |
well, in any case, the fix is most likely just another conditional on the sql to omit them |
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jwagner |
The label creator SQL? |
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chris_n |
no |
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chris_n |
that uses C4::Search.... |
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chris_n |
iirc |
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* chris_n |
looks |
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jwagner |
Sorry, I'm stuck at home w/limited accessibility -- can't look at much of anything myself. Big storm yesterday knocked everything out. |
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chris_n |
yup, it uses C4::Search::SimpleSearch |
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chris_n |
after normalizing the dates sent in by the form, it cooks up some ccl and passes that to SimpleSearch |
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chris_n |
its the less-than-equal-to that causes the problem I think |
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jwagner |
So how to fix? Maybe a "and not equal 0000-00-00" in? |
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chris_n |
this actually could be corrected in the construction of the ccl I think |
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* chris_n |
is no ccl guru |
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jwagner |
Me neither. I tried a general search using the form of the ccl from the label designer & got the same results. |
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chris_n |
it probably needs what you suggest |
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jwagner |
OK. When I can get back into my dev systems I might have a go at it. Wanted to be sure this wasn't one you'd already fixed, though. |
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chris_n |
no, I was working on a problem involving ansi-sql date formatting |
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chris_n |
jwagner: I can't seem to duplicate the zero date problem here |
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chris_n |
are you searching only on the "Added on or before date" field in the item search form? |
| 16:56 |
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nengard |
hello all regarding bug 3756 is there any reason not to submit a patch to remove these preferences from the db? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference |
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chris_n |
yes |
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jwagner |
I'll try to do some more testing -- was using "added on or after date search |
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chris_n |
nengard: not all of those prefs are depricated |
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nengard |
chris_n - i mean the ones that Fr?d?ric didn't already move |
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nengard |
with his most recent patch |
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chris_n |
jwagner: I have only one item with an dateaccessioned of 0000-00-00 |
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chris_n |
jwagner: and it does not show when I search on that field |
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jwagner |
I was wondering if I might have missed a patch somewhere. |
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chris_n |
nengard: I would not without verifying that they are, indeed, deprecated |
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nengard |
k |
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nengard |
then we're at a stalemate :) |
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chris_n |
jwagner: you could checkout a new branch from the current head and gitdiff it and the branch in question iirc |
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chris_n |
rather just gitdiff against the master |
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chris_n |
assuming the master is current |
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jwagner |
OK, will try that when I can get back to my dev servers. Thanks. |
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jwagner |
I was trying to set up a test on my current head server, but hadn't gotten very far |
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chris_n |
nengard: perhaps an email to the dev list enumerating the remaining sysprefs and asking those who might know to verify their obsolescence |
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* chris_n |
would hate to remove something that someone was still depending on :P |
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nengard |
I agree |
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nengard |
and will draft that email right now |
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chris_n |
jwagner: I just realized that search is probably performed against the zebra db |
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chris_n |
fwiw |
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jwagner |
Yeah, I was wondering about the indexing myself. If I remember, it's searching acqdate |
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chris_n |
correct |
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chris_n |
I'm going to reindex and try the search again just to be sure |
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nengard |
chris_n email sending |
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chris_n |
jwagner: I still can't reproduce the problem, sorry |
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jwagner |
OK, I'll let you know if I can get it to happen again. Thanks for checking. |
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chris_n |
no problem; let me know how it goes if you don't mind |
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jwagner |
Will do. |
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chris |
morning |
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jwagner |
morning, chris |
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larsw |
hi, chris |
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chris |
hi jwagner |
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chris |
heya larsw, hows the big apple? |
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jwagner |
How go things? |
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larsw |
chris, I'll know tomorrow :) |
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chris |
ahh :) |
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chris |
jwagner: stupidly busy answering rfps, but otherwise fine |
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jwagner |
Sounds like more fun than I'm having -- stuck at home after major storm. Power outages, downed trees, lots of fun. |
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jcamins |
larsw: Are you in NYC? |
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larsw |
jcamins, I will be tomorrow |
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larsw |
jwagner, ouch |
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chris |
jwagner: yuck .. that doesnt sound fun at all |
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owen |
jwagner: Sounds like deja vu, too |
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jwagner |
At least I finally got power back this morning (storm was yesterday), but I can't go anywhere until the garage door repairman comes.... |
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jcamins |
larsw: Well, at least it's only supposed to be in the low-to-mid 90s this week. |
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jcamins |
Around 33C. |
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chris |
only??? :) |
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jwagner |
chris, it's been in the upper 90s and over 100 degrees F here for many days in a row. Not fun. |
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jwagner |
This is a year of weather extremes -- from three major blizzards in the winter (in an area that normally doesn't get any) to early and continued abnormal heat in the summer :-( |
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chris |
yeah theres a quote in munin about that :) |
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owen |
And then there was the time the whole city flooded, froze solid, and wolves came to eat us. |
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chris |
worst movie ever! |
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owen |
Wow, I didn't know I could get booted for mentioning the worst movie ever! |
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jwagner |
Yep, it feels like the wolves are at the door :-( |
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chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]y-after-tomorrow/ |
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chris |
gave me an excuse to read old blog posts tho :) |
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owen |
chris: We would solve the unemployment problem in the US if we hired someone to tell everyone who needed to hear it "OI no, thats a ridiculous idea, go get some |
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owen |
sleep and try again tomorrow" |
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chris |
heh |
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owen |
I would need one just for me, to tell me not to eat so many cookies in one sitting. |
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chris |
heh |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 35.7�C (3:02 PM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 8%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Steady). |
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* chris_n |
hits a 40 C heat index |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20740 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 30.5�C (3:07 PM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising). |
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jwagner |
chris_n, you must be getting the weather we had yesterday :-) |
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owen |
No weather re-gifting please. |
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cait |
hi all |
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jwagner |
I suggest we all re-gift our weather to chris -- it's winter down there, right? He'd be grateful for some warmth :-) |
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chris_n |
jwagner: its been the same for a week or more here |
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chris_n |
last week heat index was 116 F |
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chris_n |
go figure |
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chris_n |
sweat city |
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jwagner |
chris_n, yes, same here -- I think we're at 11 or 12 days over 90 with heat indexes much higher. Sigh. |
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jcamins |
It's actually pretty cool today. |
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jcamins |
Thankfully. |
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jcamins |
The subway is unbearably hot when it's cold out. |
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chris |
@wunder wellington,nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
not too bad today |
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cait |
morning chris |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9�C (9:26 PM CEST on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising). |
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moodaepo |
@weather 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 27.4�C (2:26 PM CDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Rising). |
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* moodaepo |
throws his hat into the ring...sweaty hat |
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jcamins |
@weather 11105 |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 30.5�C (3:25 PM EDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
jcamins: http://debconf10.debconf.org/ |
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* chris |
will bbiab |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66047 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 31.4�C (2:35 PM CDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
Back |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 17.6�C (12:44 PM PDT on July 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). |
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chris |
wb nengard |
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nengard |
thanks |
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nengard |
that took forever!!!!!!!! |
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cait |
your presentation? |
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chris |
Her answer to your question? :) |
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cait |
:) |
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nengard |
cait sorry |
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nengard |
i was getting an xray |
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nengard |
that's what took forever |
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nengard |
my presentation was done at 11:30am |
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cait |
ah, hope you are ok |
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nengard |
just a bit of pain and we're being cautious |
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nengard |
my momma has her hips both replaced when she was 40 and that's way way too young - i have some hip pain and we want to make sure it's not happening to me too |
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Oh no, I forgot to go home! |
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chris |
http://mislav.uniqpath.com/2010/07/git-tips/ <--- good tips |
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Mathieu |
Hi everyone, i'm looking for help on the patron card creator, the images seem to be resized to 72Dpi, exporting the patron image makes it pixelated. I am importing them using Patron Image in the patron editor |
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hi |
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hi |
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Mathieu |
Richard, Can you help me with something? I'm running koha 3.2 and Patron images are being resized to 72dpi, printing the actual card makes the image pixelated, but the source image is 300dpi. |
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Mathieu |
I'm guessing the server resizes them, can I manually upload images into it? |
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richard |
hi Mathieu. sorry i'm not sure what you can do about that |
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richard |
i haven't looked at doing patron images |
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Mathieu |
alright, thank, i'll try to find a workaround |
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cait |
Mathieu: I think chris_n is the person to ask about it - he wrote the patron card creator |
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Mathieu: yeah you should be able to over write the images, once they have been uploaded |
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chris |
i forget where it puts them |
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chris |
ill just look |
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Mathieu |
They are in SQL |
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chris |
it stores the actual image in the db??? |
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chris |
eeewwww |
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Mathieu |
looks like it |
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chris |
i dont like that |
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pianohack |
Likely because anytime a web application has to write to the filesystem, god gives a kitten an extremely stern look |
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pianohack |
Seriously though, doing it smoothly and securely is difficult |
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chris |
yeah blobs in the db are just really messy, and you cant cache them |
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chris |
pianohack: yup we have to do it lots and lots for stuff |
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Mathieu |
i'm wondering what's easier, uploading a custom blob or making the script look in a folder instead of the db? |
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chris |
the latter |
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if you just key them with the borrowernumber |
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chris |
eg 12348593.jpg |
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chris |
then crafting a url to that is pretty easy |
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Alright i'll go have a look at the source see if I can do anything |
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chris |
Mathieu: it will mostly be a template change |
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Mathieu |
chris: Where should I start looking ? |
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circ-menu.inc |
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Mathieu |
needed to add $image->Set(magick => 'jpg', density => 300, quality => 100); into print.pl, density defaults out to 72dpi unless set |
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Mathieu |
create-pdf.pl* |
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Mathieu |
never mind dosen't change anything |
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robin |
In case anyone is interested, my process for creating the Debian packages is documented here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_Debian_Packages |
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chris |
cool :) |
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