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| 06:51 |
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Genji |
Hiya |
| 06:52 |
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Genji |
Koha 3.2 master ... new install... I can't start the web portion of the install: |
| 06:52 |
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Genji |
"MarkIssueReturned" is not exported |
| 06:52 |
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Genji |
by C4::Circulation |
| 06:52 |
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Genji |
but it is. |
| 06:53 |
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Genji |
any ideas? |
| 07:00 |
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Genji |
nevermind.. .took out the gw in accounts, for circulation.pm |
| 07:02 |
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Genji |
and now the problem is, its in maintence mode.. how do i install? instead of going into the web installer.. its showing me a maintianence page. |
| 08:32 |
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chris |
if you are seeing the maintenance page its the opac, not the staff side |
| 08:33 |
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Genji |
misconfigured namevirtualhost then? |
| 08:36 |
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chris |
most likely |
| 08:47 |
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| 08:50 |
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cait |
morning koha |
| 08:51 |
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chris |
hi cait |
| 08:51 |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:08 |
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chris |
cait: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]phoenix-open-day/ |
| 09:10 |
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cait |
your son likes football? :) |
| 09:12 |
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chris |
until he is old enough to play rugby :) |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:15 |
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cait |
and if he decides he likes football better? ;) |
| 09:19 |
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chris |
heh, he keeps tryin to pick it up, so i dont think there are any worries there |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
:) |
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Genji |
keeps going to the opac virtualhost. |
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| 18:14 |
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cait |
oh no |
| 18:14 |
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cait |
hebrew records in opac are broken ... again |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins_a |
At least Koha is running. |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins_a |
:) |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
hmpf |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
sorry jcamins |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
just a bit frustrated, we need this feature for our library. |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins_a |
cait: No worries. Just trying to find the good news. |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
I think one of the last changes broke it, its supposed to look like this: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=26729 |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
but now everything is on the left side and the hebrew does not break correctly this way |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins_a |
cait: You're running on latest HEAD? |
| 18:29 |
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cait |
yes |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
my test installation, the library in production is on 3.1.61 |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
fresh database and current head, loading more test records with hebrew now |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
jcamins_a: perhaps I was too fast, records from our catalog work fine, the problem record is from loc. |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins_a |
Which LC record? |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
this is the control number: 16010653 |
| 18:35 |
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jcamins_a |
History of Greece? |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
no |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
I searched in wikipedia for the hebrew word israel and used this as search term in z39.50 |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
I think the problem is the language code. |
| 18:38 |
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| 18:39 |
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jcamins_a |
Is there any 066 field? |
| 18:40 |
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jcamins_a |
Why does our catalog go down *every single day*? (that was a rhetorical question... I _really_ don't want to know) |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
jcamins? |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
go down? |
| 18:40 |
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jcamins_a |
Crash. |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
why do you think that? |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea_ |
crash how? |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Oh, it's not a Koha issue. |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
you are confusing me :) |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Sorry. |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins_a |
I was just trying to replicate what you did, and discovered that our catalog was down. |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
ah, not our catalog, your catalog |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Our catalog is down because the network card doesn't work. It has nothing to do with Koha. |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Right. |
| 18:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
Ah |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea |
| 18:42 |
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jcamins_a |
I'm betting your problem is a combination of the 066 field, the 041 field, and the leader. |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
jcamins: I think I found the problem, its the way the script checks if its a rtl script |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
no, we check 880$6 |
| 18:43 |
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jcamins_a |
Oh, that would do it too. |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins_a |
I forgot that you can include character set in 880$6. |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
i think not many people use those fields |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
our union catalogs use ico codes, loc use marc21 codes |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
and the xslt script uses substring... |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
i think it does not work for both codes this way |
| 18:45 |
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jcamins_a |
And it's going to get even worse, because LC is supposedly going to stop using 880$6, and just make everything repeatable. |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
ouch |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
where did you get that from? do you have a link or something? |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
they need to put a language code somewhere, but it will make things for display more complicate :( |
| 18:47 |
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jcamins_a |
That's what one of LC's Arabic catalogers said at the Middle East Librarian's Association meeting last year. I'm sure it won't happen before RDA, though. |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
no fun |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
and not good for koha |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
how do you map a repeatable 245 field to biblioitems? |
| 18:49 |
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jcamins_a |
Eww. |
| 18:49 |
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jcamins_a |
I hadn't even thought of that. |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
we did |
| 18:50 |
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jcamins_a |
I did think that eliminating the 880 was going to be a disaster, but I hadn't quite made the connection to biblioitems. |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
when we tried to figure out the best way for our hebrew records |
| 18:52 |
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chris |
wow they do some random stuf |
| 18:52 |
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chris |
f |
| 18:53 |
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chris |
lets make marc even less useful :) |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins_a |
It hasn't happened yet. It could be like many of the good MARBI proposals (and no doubt some bad ones): completely forgotten. :) |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
hi chris |
| 18:56 |
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| 18:56 |
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cait |
ok, I think the problem is here: |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
<xsl:when test="substring($code6,string-length($code6)-1,2) ='/r'"> |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
jcamins: thx for your support :) always helps me to talk to someone :) and lets hope they don't kill 880 |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins_a |
cait: You're welcome. |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins_a |
Argh. I still can't get the Koha installer to run under FreeBSD. |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
can offer to talk, but no nothing about FreeBSD :) |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins_a |
Unfortunately, it would seem that makes two of us. :) |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
and my xslt problem resists |
| 19:09 |
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jcamins_a |
This is MARC21slim2OPACDetails.xsl? |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
yes |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
ok, changing en files and looking at de-DE in opac does not work :) |
| 19:16 |
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jcamins_a |
Woohoo! The Makefile appears to be running! |
| 19:16 |
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jcamins_a |
So was that the problem? |
| 19:18 |
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jcamins_a |
And the Makefile failed. |
| 19:21 |
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jcamins_a |
But, it started. That's progress. |
| 19:21 |
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jcamins_a |
And changing the hostname fixed it. |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins_a |
The general consensus is that you don't have to worry too much if there are errors in the make test stage, right? |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
I think so |
| 19:36 |
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jcamins_a |
Urk. Apache 1.3 doesn't like the RewriteCond. |
| 19:41 |
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larsw |
apache 1.3 has reached "end of life" a couple of years ago; most importantly, this means no security fixes, so upgrading to 2.2 is highly recommended |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Yeah, but it's not my server. |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins_a |
Although perhaps the owner will install 2.2 if I beg enough. |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins_a |
larsw: Any idea if I need mod_dbd? |
| 19:53 |
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larsw |
I have no idea, I don't know what it is |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins_a |
Okay. I don't think I do. That was the only one I wasn't sure of, so I'll try it without. |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
Another crisp morning hope today is gonna be like yesterday |
| 19:57 |
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larsw |
hi, chris |
| 19:57 |
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chris |
Hiya larsw, enjoy the weekend? |
| 19:57 |
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larsw |
chris, yup |
| 19:58 |
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chris |
Can't beat wellington on a good day |
| 20:01 |
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chris |
Empty bus too, school holidays |
| 20:16 |
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jcamins_a |
wizzyrea, larsw: Any opinion on the preferred naming convention on the wiki? "FreeBSD" or "Koha on FreeBSD"? |
| 20:17 |
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larsw |
jcamins_a, I defer to wizzyrea |
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| 20:23 |
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jcamins_a |
Progress! |
| 20:23 |
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jcamins_a |
I have gotten the web server to start. |
| 20:25 |
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| 20:25 |
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richard |
hi |
| 20:25 |
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chris |
hi richard |
| 20:25 |
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richard |
hey chris |
| 20:26 |
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hdl |
hi chris |
| 20:27 |
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chris |
hi hdl |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
xslt-- |
| 20:30 |
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jcamins_a |
freebsd_user_handling-- |
| 20:35 |
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jcamins_a |
freebsd_user_handling++ # That was unfair of me |
| 20:35 |
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jcamins_a |
apache_configuration-- |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
I just dont understand why it works for one string and not for the other |
| 20:35 |
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| 20:40 |
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jcamins_a |
Yay! I was able to access the web installer. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins_a |
Unfortunately, I appear to have forgotten my database password. |
| 20:48 |
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jcamins_a |
Password remembered, and the web installer has come up. |
| 20:51 |
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jcamins_a |
::sigh:: ExtUtils::MakeMaker has been installed about thirty times now. |
| 21:00 |
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* jcamins_a |
Hands out chocolate to everyone on #koha to celebrate the successful installation of Koha on FreeBSD. |
| 21:00 |
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chris |
:) |
| 21:00 |
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* jcamins_a |
wonders if Scotch wouldn't be more appropriate. |
| 21:01 |
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jcamins_a |
That was really rather painful. |
| 21:01 |
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cait |
chocolate :) |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
| 21:02 |
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chris |
cait: http://notalwaysright.com/high[…]in-attrition/6031 |
| 21:02 |
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chris |
see don't be scared of travelling, you will do better than this :) |
| 21:03 |
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jcamins_a |
That's fantastic. |
| 21:03 |
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cait |
chris: sure? :) |
| 21:03 |
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chris |
:) |
| 21:04 |
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larsw |
I've done worse... |
| 21:04 |
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jcamins_a |
I can't believe what I just did. I don't have a clean FreeBSD installation to test my installation procedure on to make sure that it works. |
| 21:05 |
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larsw |
there was that one time when I thought I was in the UK and was actually in the US |
| 21:05 |
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chris |
heh |
| 21:05 |
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jcamins_a |
I guess I'll put a disclaimer on the wiki saying "I think this works, but be prepared to troubleshoot installation problems." |
| 21:05 |
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chris |
cait: see and larsw made it here if he can, you can :-) |
| 21:05 |
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larsw |
cait, you should totally come to Australia |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
australia? |
| 21:06 |
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larsw |
:) |
| 21:06 |
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| 21:06 |
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cait |
dont confuse me :) |
| 21:11 |
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jcamins_a |
In case anyone ever stumbles across this log when trying to learn about installing Koha with Apache 1.3, it turns out that Koha needs Apache 2. |
| 21:12 |
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| 21:20 |
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jcamins_a |
Why would anyone want dontmerge to prevent automatically merging changes in authority records? |
| 21:24 |
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jcamins_a |
Is it possible to require patrons to log in to the OPAC? |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
no, you can always search |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
or not, not without changing something in the code |
| 21:24 |
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jcamins_a |
Okay. |
| 21:24 |
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jcamins_a |
I think someone did that... I hope they filed a bug report and provided their patch. |
| 21:26 |
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chris |
i know its a public branch, waiting to go into 3.4 |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins_a |
Excellent. |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_a |
Um. |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_a |
This is a really dumb question. |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_a |
How do I create patrons? |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_a |
I know I've done it before. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins_a |
Oh, there's the problem. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins_a |
I had jquery blocked. |
| 21:29 |
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jcamins_a |
Never mind. :) |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
ok, will not solve this today, good night all |
| 21:31 |
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jcamins_a |
Good night. |
| 21:31 |
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chris |
night cait |
| 21:33 |
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| 21:35 |
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jcamins_a |
Ooh, looks like someone has been polishing the Z39.50 search interface. |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins_a |
How do you make the Zebra server start when the computer boots? |
| 21:44 |
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larsw |
jcamins_a, depends on the operating system; on systems using sysv init, see the init.d scripts (/etc/init.d on Debian, might be elsewhere on RPM systems) |
| 21:44 |
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jcamins_a |
Okay, that was my question. Thanks. :) |
| 21:56 |
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| 21:57 |
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jcamins_a |
Your 10-minute update on the installation of Koha on FreeBSD: I'm having Zebra problems, but otherwise progress is being made. |
| 21:58 |
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Aladino |
hola |
| 21:59 |
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jcamins_a |
Hello. |
| 21:59 |
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Aladino |
some body speak spanish |
| 22:00 |
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jcamins_a |
I do not, sorry. |
| 22:00 |
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Aladino |
thank you |
| 22:01 |
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Aladino |
do you know some chat spanish? |
| 22:03 |
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| 22:08 |
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jcamins_a |
Limiting by branch only works if you have items. |
| 22:08 |
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jcamins_a |
In hindsight, completely obvious. |
| 22:09 |
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jcamins_a |
But, Koha works just fine under FreeBSD. :D |
| 22:36 |
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magnus |
hrmpf - does anyone have any experience with using the "Offline Circulation File (.koc) Uploader" for returning items? I keep getting "Unable to determine patron from item barcode"... |
| 22:37 |
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chris |
not me |
| 22:39 |
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magnus |
chris: i thought you knew everything... ;-) |
| 22:40 |
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chris |
heh, nope ever tried the offline circ thing |
| 22:42 |
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magnus |
i have a customer that needs to return 1000s of items this week, and they find it slow going (100+ items pr record). I thought the offline thingy might help them avoid (or postpone) the slowness, but now i can't get koha to process the files... |
| 22:46 |
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chris |
they are all out? |
| 22:53 |
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magnus |
the items? |
| 22:54 |
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chris |
yep |
| 22:55 |
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chris |
it might be saying it cant find the patron, because the item isnt out |
| 22:55 |
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magnus |
ah, but they are out |
| 22:55 |
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magnus |
i have tested returning the barcodes by hand, and that works just fine |
| 22:56 |
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chris |
yeah, by hand it doesnt care if they are out or not, so was just guessing |
| 22:58 |
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magnus |
i have turned 10 by hand now, 8 were returned ok and two were "not out". the offline tool gives the same response for all of them |
| 22:58 |
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chris |
right, im out of ideas then |
| 22:59 |
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magnus |
thanks for trying! :-) |
| 23:14 |
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chris |
ah ha! |
| 23:20 |
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magnus |
que? |
| 23:21 |
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chris |
in C4/Search.pm |
| 23:21 |
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chris |
there are lines referencing 'opac' |
| 23:21 |
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chris |
finally figured out why the intranet was trying to show images from the opac |
| 23:22 |
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magnus |
nice! |
| 23:22 |
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chris |
it will be a happy day when that module is burnt and rewritten |
| 23:22 |
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jcamins_a |
It certainly will be! |
| 23:23 |
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magnus |
enough midnight sun for me - g'night #koha! |
| 23:23 |
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| 23:28 |
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jcamins_a |
Yay! Koha is now running without problem on my FreeBSD virtual machine. Time to go do something that doesn't involve LCDs for the rest of the day. |
| 23:28 |
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jcamins_a |
Good night, #koha |
| 23:28 |
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chris |
cya |
