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richard is now known as rich-away |
| 00:08 |
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chris |
hmm am i dreaming |
| 00:08 |
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chris |
or did we used to use Business::ISBN ? |
| 00:09 |
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* brendan |
seems to remember that being in there |
| 00:11 |
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chris |
hmm no sign of it, maybe its only in the 3.0.x branch |
| 00:12 |
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robin |
Yeah, I can't find any ISBN module. |
| 00:12 |
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chris |
i'm sure we did something with Business::ISBN |
| 00:13 |
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robin |
I've found code that checks ISBN for length and formatting, but nothing that does checksums. |
| 00:13 |
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* chris |
greps mail |
| 00:13 |
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robin |
Oh well, I'll use Test::ISBN for this script, it does exactly what I need. |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
ah i see a patch from gmcharlt with it |
| 00:14 |
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robin |
(and builds on Business::ISBN) |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
maybe he never pushed his patch :-) |
| 00:14 |
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robin |
oh, actually, I can do this in Business:: anyway, so that'll be better. |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
yeah use that and ill follow up with gmcharlt about the dependency |
| 00:15 |
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chris |
its in debian already so thats good |
| 00:15 |
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robin |
oh, cool |
| 00:15 |
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robin |
Adding a smart ISBN/ISSN checker/seperator for this import thing to help handle noisy data. |
| 00:16 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 00:22 |
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nengard |
done with a ton of wiki edits - now it's time to relax - it is sunday after all |
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gmcharlt |
yep, let's go with Business::ISBN |
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chris_n |
howdy brendan |
| 01:09 |
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brendan |
heya chris_n how the day go? |
| 01:09 |
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chris_n |
great |
| 01:11 |
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chris_n |
yesterday we put up some new window baskets with flowers and today the kids and I took my wife out to eat |
| 01:14 |
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brendan |
nice that sounds excellent |
| 01:16 |
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chris_n |
ahh... hope they get this fixed: http://www.space.com/missionla[…]+Headline+Feed%29 |
| 01:16 |
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* chris_n |
wonders if some perl coding might help fix the problem |
| 01:17 |
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gmcharlt |
a telegram asking the aliens to stop mucking with the probe might be better ;) |
| 01:18 |
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chris_n |
lol :D |
| 01:18 |
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chris_n |
maybe they speak perl, no? |
| 02:11 |
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brendan |
night all |
| 02:14 |
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braedon|home |
@wunder auckland |
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munin |
braedon|home: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 20.0�C (2:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:18 |
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braedon|home |
@wunder wellington |
| 02:18 |
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munin |
braedon|home: Error: No such location could be found. |
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braedon|home |
@wunder wellington, new zealand |
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munin |
braedon|home: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (2:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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| 02:29 |
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schuster |
anyone about for a question? |
| 02:30 |
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chris |
yes |
| 02:30 |
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schuster |
I'm looking at loading 3.2alpha2 and I'm looking at the documentation where is the current git? |
| 02:30 |
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schuster |
git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone |
| 02:30 |
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schuster |
is what is in the document... |
| 02:31 |
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chris |
what document? |
| 02:31 |
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schuster |
INSTALL.debian-lenny |
| 02:31 |
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chris |
yeah that needs updating, but if you have the tarball, then you dont use git anyway |
| 02:32 |
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schuster |
ok I do have the tarball, just have not had success installing from that in the past so guess I will march onward with the tar. |
| 02:33 |
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schuster |
thk. |
| 02:33 |
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chris |
if you clone git, you arent installing the alpha2 |
| 02:33 |
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chris |
you are instally whatever master has moved on to |
| 02:34 |
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schuster |
true. Just trying to get closer to do some testing as I can. |
| 02:34 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 02:35 |
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chris |
if you want to do an install from git, that has the right urls in it |
| 02:36 |
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schuster |
OK thanks. appreciate the help. Hope you had a good weekend... |
| 02:39 |
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chris |
yep, busy but good |
| 02:53 |
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schuster |
Same here... Had a nice garden party tonight... |
| 02:55 |
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larsw |
is there a deadline for kohacon Call for Papers? a date after which new proposals for talks/panels/etc won't be acceptedd? |
| 02:55 |
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chris |
not yet, but we should make one |
| 02:56 |
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larsw |
perhaps that'd be good to discuss in tomorrow's kohacon meeting |
| 02:56 |
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chris |
yup |
| 02:57 |
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* larsw |
e-mails Russ with suggestion |
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chris |
we need to shift all this js out of the templates into files, then put expires headers on them, will decrease the pageload size on a lot of pages |
| 04:47 |
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* chris |
writes notes to himself |
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| 05:09 |
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chris |
missing syspref too |
| 05:10 |
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chris |
$maxitems = ( C4::Context->preference('maxItemsinSearchResults') ) ? C4::Context->preference('maxItemsinSearchResults') - 1 : 1 |
| 05:13 |
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Amit_G |
heya chris |
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robin |
chris: when you're home, does Koha have a way of specifying a circulation list? As in, "when an item arrives, it should go to these people first"? |
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| 07:11 |
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chris |
robin: for serials yes, called a routing list |
| 07:11 |
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chris |
in theory you could use it for any type of item |
| 07:11 |
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robin |
OK, they'll be asking about that tomorrow I expect :) |
| 07:11 |
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chris |
:) |
| 07:12 |
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chris |
hdl_laptop: you about? |
| 07:12 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi chris and all |
| 07:14 |
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chris |
hi hdl_laptop :) hope you had a good weekend, was yesterday mothers day in france too? |
| 07:14 |
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hdl_laptop |
it is a little later afaik |
| 07:14 |
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hdl_laptop |
rather at the begining of June |
| 07:15 |
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chris |
hdl_laptop: i notice that mail from lists.koha.org doesnt seem to be happening? |
| 07:15 |
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chris |
ahhh |
| 07:15 |
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hdl_laptop |
I saw your email |
| 07:16 |
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chris |
cool |
| 07:22 |
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robin |
chris: is it intentionally confusing that 'url' is described as 'Uniform Resource Identifier'? :) |
| 07:23 |
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robin |
pedantically, they're different things... |
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| 07:27 |
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chris |
unintentionally confusing :) |
| 07:38 |
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robin |
chris: how fun does a 4.7MB MARC XML file sound :) it's what I'm up to now, and I now just have to sort out some stuff relating to appending multiple columns into one field, and dewey validation, left. |
| 07:38 |
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chris |
that should be fine :) |
| 07:38 |
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* chris |
sends another email to koha-devel |
| 07:40 |
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kf |
good morning all :) |
| 07:40 |
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chris |
hi kf |
| 07:48 |
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* robin |
calls it an evening |
| 07:49 |
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robin |
otherwise I'll start dreaming about MARC records again :( |
| 07:49 |
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chris |
yeah you don't want to do that :) |
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| 08:09 |
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chris |
hi nahuel |
| 08:10 |
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kf |
is this still correct? http://koha.org/documentation/[…]earchterm=browser |
| 08:12 |
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chris |
maybe for 3.0 |
| 08:15 |
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kf |
hm, ok, I will state that koha follows web standards with no ref |
| 08:15 |
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chris |
i would say, attempts to follow web standards |
| 08:16 |
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kf |
good point |
| 08:16 |
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chris |
or aims to be standards compliant |
| 08:18 |
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kf |
chris: another question is about duplicate check in cataloging, no idea how this works - the question is about the fields that are checked |
| 08:18 |
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chris |
when you add a new one and it says this loosk like a duplicate? |
| 08:18 |
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kf |
yes |
| 08:19 |
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kf |
I tried to find the code, but did not really find out how it works |
| 08:20 |
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chris |
its in C4::Search |
| 08:20 |
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chris |
it checks the isbn first |
| 08:20 |
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nahuel |
hi chilts |
| 08:20 |
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nahuel |
chris, |
| 08:20 |
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chris |
if that matches, it stops looking and says this looks like a duplicate |
| 08:21 |
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chris |
if that doesnt match, it then checks title, author and itemtype |
| 08:21 |
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chris |
if all 3 of those match, says duplicate |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
chris++ |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
thx a lot |
| 08:23 |
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kf |
but why does it check the item type? |
| 08:24 |
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chris |
because if you have same title, same author, but one is large print and one is paperback, then they aren't a duplicate |
| 08:25 |
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kf |
but the check is during cataloging - so it will check with the biblio-level-itype and not the item-level-itype |
| 08:25 |
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kf |
have to keep this in mind, our libraries are all using item-level-itypes |
| 08:26 |
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chris |
yep thats fine |
| 08:26 |
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chris |
but if you enter one the same as one you already have, then you should be just adding an item anyway, not a new record |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
chris: thats right. I was thinking about how this field is set in our libraries, they do not edit it, its set to a standard value |
| 08:34 |
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miguel |
good morning |
| 08:34 |
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kf |
good morning miguel |
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| 08:55 |
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vdsmile |
hello everybody |
| 08:55 |
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vdsmile |
I have a question about koha |
| 08:57 |
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vdsmile |
I want develop a module of password lost |
| 08:57 |
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vdsmile |
haev you an idea ? |
| 08:58 |
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kf |
so that users can request new passwords in the opac? |
| 09:01 |
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vdsmile |
not in the opac but in the back |
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| 09:21 |
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kmkale |
good afrernoon all |
| 09:21 |
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kmkale |
@weather Mumbai |
| 09:21 |
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munin |
kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:12 |
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kf |
@weather Konstanz |
| 10:12 |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:21 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
| 10:21 |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (10:00 PM NZST on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:22 |
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kf |
same temperature :) |
| 10:23 |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 8.1�C (6:23 AM EDT on May 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:24 |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
| 10:24 |
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kf |
hi chris_n :) |
| 10:26 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: around? |
| 10:26 |
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gmcharlt |
kf: yes |
| 10:26 |
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kf |
hi :) |
| 10:26 |
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kf |
I updated my installation to test xslt translation |
| 10:27 |
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kf |
with english search works, with German I get an error 500 page |
| 10:28 |
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gmcharlt |
what error messages do you get in the Apache error log? |
| 10:28 |
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kf |
give me a minute |
| 10:30 |
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kf |
is this log under koha or var/log/apache2? |
| 10:34 |
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kf |
ah I think I found it http://pastebin.com/ds4axd2y |
| 10:39 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: lunch time now, just let me know if you want me to test something or add this to the bug, will read back later |
| 10:40 |
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gmcharlt |
kf: looks like the XSL may not have survived the translation |
| 10:41 |
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gmcharlt |
I'd be curious to see what xmllint --noout /path/to/de-DE/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl shows |
| 10:41 |
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kf |
have 3 more minutes - will test |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
installing libxml2-utils |
| 10:43 |
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kf |
a long list of error messages... |
| 10:45 |
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kf |
http://pastebin.com/Mh7YkdmU |
| 10:47 |
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kf |
have to leave now, will be back in about 30 minutes |
| 11:00 |
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gmcharlt |
kf: looks like a bad translation - the closing </img> tags for the format icons were not supplied |
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kmkale |
@seen wizzyrea |
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munin |
kmkale: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> huh. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]10-web-directions |
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kf |
gmcharlt: perhaps another problem with pootle, es-ES and fr-FR also dont work |
| 11:17 |
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gmcharlt |
kf: looks that way; I'll add a fallback to the English XSLT in cases where the non-English ones don't work |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
and Im pretty sure I translated/copied all code |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: good idea, I will try to repair our xslt files |
| 11:20 |
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kf |
there was a lot of code in pootle, I tried to copy all of it, but perhaps I translated something by mistake |
| 11:26 |
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kmkale |
@seen chris_n |
| 11:26 |
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munin |
kmkale: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 1 second ago: <chris_n> g'morning |
| 11:26 |
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kf |
comparing de-DE and en - not sure where the missing img is |
| 11:27 |
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kf |
ok, ... it was too obvious |
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| 11:34 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: I think it not a problem with pootle, the img tags are not in pootle, just the strings. so automatic translation seems to break xslt files :( |
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kf |
gmcharlt: I added /> to all img tags and now the search is working. want me to add a new bug report fort his? |
| 11:48 |
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kf |
his = this |
| 11:48 |
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gmcharlt |
yes, please |
| 11:50 |
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kf |
severity? |
| 11:55 |
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gmcharlt |
blocker |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
thx, I hope my description is understandable |
| 11:59 |
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kf |
bug 4472 |
| 11:59 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4472 blocker, P5, ---, chris bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, img tags in xslt broken after automatic translation |
| 12:06 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: close bug 4403? |
| 12:06 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4403 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, XSLT files not translated |
| 12:06 |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
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| 12:10 |
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kf |
I found another related bug 3214 |
| 12:10 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3214 enhancement, P3, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC XSLT stylesheets are not translatable |
| 12:11 |
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nengard |
is anyone else getting emails from the bugs or commits mailing lists? |
| 12:11 |
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nengard |
I haven't gotten any since Friday morning |
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nengard |
and I know that there were commits cause I just did a fetch and got stuff :) |
| 12:11 |
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nengard |
also I edited/submitted bugs and got no emails |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: looks like an issue with email - chris dropped BibLibre a note asking them to check |
| 12:12 |
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nengard |
okey dokey!! Thanks :) |
| 12:12 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt, should we get the commits list to point to the new git repo? Or was that done already? |
| 12:12 |
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kf |
just noticed it too :) |
| 12:13 |
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kf |
changed bugs and no mails got out |
| 12:14 |
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kf |
nengard: can you test zotero export from koha detail page? Its not working for me. result list is fine. |
| 12:14 |
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nengard |
kf - there is a bug report about that - it does not work from the detail page - it shows 2 titles as exportable, and if you choose one it gives you a ton of errors |
| 12:14 |
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kf |
nengard: ah, sorry. |
| 12:15 |
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kf |
yes, thats exactly what happens. will search the bug. |
| 12:15 |
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nengard |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4018 |
| 12:15 |
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munin |
Bug 4018: blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Coins support problems and xslt |
| 12:15 |
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nengard |
no problem at all!!! |
| 12:15 |
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nengard |
we can't all know about all bugs ;) hehe |
| 12:15 |
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kf |
I think I dont want to know about all bugs :) |
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kf |
nengard: now you were faster than me :) Bugzilla: Mid-air collision detected! |
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nengard |
LOL :) sorry |
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kf |
no problem :) |
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kf |
is there a bug for "swapped" sysprefs (where on is off and off is on)? |
| 12:56 |
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kf |
and is 3164 a blocker? |
| 12:56 |
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kf |
bug 3164 |
| 12:56 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3164 major, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC-placed holds broken in SingleBranchMode |
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jwagner |
kf, I seem to remember the swapped syspref problem was a translation issue and someone is working on it. But I could be wrong.... |
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kf |
jwagner: I think there was a problem, but its also wrong in English :) |
| 12:58 |
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nyaeven |
hello, i am new to koha i hope you can help me, when i try and do a z30.50 from the catalouging interface i am getting the following error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl line 233. does anyone know why this might be happning? |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
nyaeven: which version of koha are u using? |
| 12:59 |
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nyaeven |
3.05 |
| 12:59 |
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nyaeven |
on debian, if that makes any difference |
| 13:00 |
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kf |
does this happen with every z39.50-server? what are you searching for? |
| 13:00 |
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kf |
im not aware of a bug, but we are using 3.01.61 |
| 13:04 |
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nyaeven |
i am just doing a title search on 'computers' |
| 13:09 |
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kf |
nyaeven: Im sorry, I have no idea why it is not working. perhaps someone else can help |
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owen |
Line 233 says "$isbn = $marcrecord->field($bibliotag)->data;" |
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owen |
I wonder if it's a problem with the info coming from "my ($bibliotag,$bibliosubf)=GetMarcFromKohaField('biblioitems.isbn','');" above that |
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nyaeven |
nps kf :) |
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nengard |
off to teach a webinar - be back this afternoon |
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kmkale |
if I want to uograde a machine using 3.00.00.107 to master is it a one shot upgrade or a rolling one? |
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nyaeven |
owen: how would i be able to tell if it's a problem that info? |
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owen |
I'm not sure nyaeven |
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nyaeven |
hmm my testing was not complete it seems, for a couple of the servers i'm getting Results Connection failed to bobcat.nyu.edu Nothing found. Try another search. |
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kf |
gmcharlt: can I close bug 4208? not sure what you meant with "the opensearch template is a special case" |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4208 blocker, P1, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Many submit buttons are not translatable in 3.2 |
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kf |
nengard: have you solved your problem with amazon content? I m testing it now and get no reviews (just as you wrote in your email) |
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kf |
ah, she is gone teaching her webinar |
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owen |
kf: Last I heard her problem wasn't resolved yet |
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kf |
is there a bug report? I also noticed the amazonlocale is not used everywhere, still investigating, but perhaps part of my problem (no reviews in English, but in German) |
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gmcharlt |
kf: you can close 208 |
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gmcharlt |
4208, even |
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kf |
gmcharlt: done |
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owen |
What is it with holds in HEAD? There always seems to be something.... |
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owen |
The OPAC says "none of these items can be placed on hold," but all are available |
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kf |
ah check your circulation rules |
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kf |
I had this problem and it was because maxreserves in smart rules defaults to 0 |
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kf |
I considered writing a bug report for this... because its confusing. max checkouts defaults to 'no limit' when empty |
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owen |
You're right kf, I had my circ policy messed up from testing another bug |
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kf |
what do you think - is this a usability bugß |
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kf |
? |
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gmcharlt |
depends on the type of library you run |
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gmcharlt |
if you allow holds, default unlimited is better |
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gmcharlt |
if you don't allow holds, default 0 is better |
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kmkale |
when I am printing fee receipts is there a easy way to change / remove the - sign that appears in front of the amount? |
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kmkale |
'amount' => sprintf("%.2f",$accts->[$i]{'amount'}) |
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kf |
gmcharlt: ok :) |
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gmcharlt |
I think the deeper UI issue is that there's no easy way for library staff to readily determine exactly why an item is non-holdable without deep familiarity of Koha's hold policy configuration |
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owen |
I notice that when I was allowed zero holds the message said "none of these items can be placed on hold" but when I exceed my holds limit it explains that I've exceeded that limit |
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owen |
I guess there needs to be a "you are not permitted to place holds" message for the OPAC and a condition set up to catch that situation |
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kf |
owen: have you checked with staff? I think there is a better error message |
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kf |
Im adding a bug for amazon reviews not working, I compared 3.1.61 and current head, got reviews in 3.1, no reviews for the same titles and same configuration in head |
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owen |
kf: Works for me :| |
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kf |
oooh |
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kf |
so what is nengard's and my problem? |
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kf |
have you activated all amazon content? |
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owen |
I have OPACAmazonEnabled, OPACAmazonCoverImages , OPACAmazonSimilarItems , and OPACAmazonReviews all on and working |
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wizzyrea |
good morning. |
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owen |
Hi wizzyrea |
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gmcharlt |
nahuel: could you unstick my latest koha ML email? |
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kf |
have you set all three private, accesskey and AmazonAssocTag? |
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slef |
did I send a koha list email from wrong domain? :-/ |
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owen |
slef: Mailing list problems all around since Friday |
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gmcharlt |
nahuel: oops, disregard, wrong list |
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kf |
owen: not sure what to do about the reviews :( my installation is a fresh isntallation from head from about a week ago. I see no difference in the settings between my 3.0.61 and the 3.2. Only that no reviews show |
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owen |
No "similar items" either kf? |
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owen |
kf if you "select variable,value from systempreferences where variable like '%Amazon%'" do you see "OPACAmazonReviews | 1" |
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owen |
...and "OPACAmazonEnabled | 1" |
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owen |
? |
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kf |
owen: found none |
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kf |
testing your sql now |
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kf |
but I checked in the old syspref editor |
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kf |
and in the new |
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kf |
you showed me how to open the old syspref editor some time ago :) |
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kf |
Locale is DE, all other settings are 1, except AmazonAssocTag which is empty |
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owen |
Sorry kf, I can't imagine what is different about my system that would make it work for me when yours and nengard's are not |
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owen |
However, I'm starting to look like I'm in the minority |
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kf |
netviewer training mom |
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kf |
be back in a few minutes |
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kf |
owen: I will reply to nicole's mail |
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kf |
owen: thx for your help and sorry, had to show one of our libraries how to catalog fast adds :) |
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hdl_laptop |
hi jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi, hdl_laptop |
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kf |
wb nengard |
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nengard |
thanks :() |
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nengard |
or :) |
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kf |
I answered your mail about amazon on the mailing list - no Amazon reviews |
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kf |
:( can someone test limit to currently available? |
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owen |
kf: By clicking "limit to currently available items" in the OPAC search results? |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
I have 3 items, record A: available, checked out, record B: checked out |
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kf |
I think my result should be record A? |
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owen |
My test: Initial search: 249 results. Limited to available: zero results |
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sekjal |
what a coincidence, I was just reading the code surrounding "limit to available" |
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owen |
kf: Did you see that there is a discussion of this issue on the mailing list? |
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* owen |
didn't realize the problem was in HEAD |
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owen |
I tried chris's suggestion to run misc/migration/fix_onloan.pl |
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kf |
owen: no, can you point me to it? |
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kf |
I added ths items |
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kf |
no migration |
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kf |
I imported records without items, so had to manually add them |
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owen |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]0-May/023776.html |
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nengard |
any word on the koha emails that aren't coming through? |
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wizzyrea_away |
i've gotten a slew today |
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owen |
I've gotten some, but not a slew |
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kf |
nengard: not on irc so far |
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* kf |
goes to look up slew |
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chris_n |
@dict slew |
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munin |
chris_n: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: slew See {slay}; gcide: Slew \Slew\, imp. of {Slay}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Slew \Slew\, v. t. See {Slue}. [1913 Webster]; wn: slay v : kill intentionally and with premeditation; "The mafia boss ordered his enemies murdered" [syn: {murder}, {hit}, {dispatch}, {bump off}, {polish off}, {remove}] [also: {slew}, {slain}]; gcide: Slew \Slew\ (sl[=oo]), (7 more messages) |
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chris_n |
@more |
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munin |
chris_n: n. [See {Slough} a wet place.] A wet place; a river inlet. The praire round about is wet, at times almost marshy, especially at the borders of the great reedy slews. --T. Roosevelt. [Webster 1913 Suppl.]; moby-thes: 55 Moby Thesaurus words for "slew": batch, bunch, clump, cluster, considerable, copse, crop, deal, gobs, good deal, great deal, group, grouping, groupment, grove, hassock, heap, heaps, (6 more messages) |
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kf |
a lot? |
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chris_n |
kf: see the Moby Thasaurus words there |
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chris_n |
batch, bunch, etc |
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chris_n |
yes 'a lot' |
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kf |
always get to learn new words here :) |
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chris_n |
gobs... hehe |
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chris_n |
copse is a new one on me |
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owen |
the Wiktionary definition is much simpler: (US) A large number. |
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owen |
But I'm surprised by the "(US)". US-specific? |
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owen |
Anyway... sekjal: any luck understanding Koha's definition of 'available' ? |
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rhcl |
@dick copse |
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munin |
rhcl: Error: "dick" is not a valid command. |
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rhcl |
@dict copse |
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munin |
rhcl: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: copse n : a dense growth of bushes [syn: {brush}, {brushwood}, {coppice}, {thicket}]; gcide: Copse \Copse\, v. t. 1. To trim or cut; -- said of small trees, brushwood, tufts of grass, etc. --Halliwell. [1913 Webster] 2. To plant and preserve, as a copse. --Swift. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Copse \Copse\, n. [Contr. from coppice.] A wood of small growth; a (2 more messages) |
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sekjal |
owen: until Nov 9, 2009, it was defined as items.onloan is NULL AND items.itemslost = 0 |
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slef |
@dict scads |
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munin |
slef: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: carangid \carangid\ n. any fish of the family {Carangidae}, including the {cavallas}, {jacks}, {pompanos} and {scads}. [WordNet 1.5]; wn: scads n : a large number or amount; "made lots of new friends"; "she amassed a mountain of newspapers" [syn: {tons}, {dozens}, {heaps}, {lots}, {mountain}, {piles}, {scores}, {stacks}, {loads}, {rafts}, {slews}, {wads}, (3 more messages) |
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sekjal |
then that section of buildQuery() was commented out, and 'available' was dealt with less explicitly |
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sekjal |
looks like ' and available' is being tacked on to the end of the ccl query, and it's left to Zebra to know what that means |
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rhcl |
@dict staid |
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munin |
rhcl: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Staid \Staid\ (st[=a]d), imp. & p. p. of {Stay}. [1913 Webster]; wn: staid adj : characterized by dignity and propriety [syn: {sedate}]; gcide: Staid \Staid\, a. [From {Stay} to stop.] Sober; grave; steady; sedate; composed; regular; not wild, volatile, flighty, or fanciful. "Sober and staid persons." --Addison. [1913 Webster] O'erlaid with black, staid (8 more messages) |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: Do you know anything about the mailing list problems? |
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owen |
kf: Regarding Bug 4475, I notice there doesn't seem to be a "http://images.amazon.de" as there is a "http://images.amazon.com" I'm not sure how that affects non-US users |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4475 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, AmazonLocale not used consistently |
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owen |
kf: Do you get good cover image results normally? I'm curious, because any results you get are from images.amazon.com. |
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kf |
sorry, meeting, will read back later |
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kf |
covers are perfect and link is to .de |
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* owen |
notices amazon.fr and amazon.de seem to use "ecx.images-amazon.com" as a source for their covers... |
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kf |
owen: dont know if I would see more covers with those services |
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kf |
owen: but we have covers for German titles in our catalog |
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owen |
I guess I would assume that we're using the right source if you're happy with the results. |
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kf |
even for school books |
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kf |
thx for fixing the link |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
ok, time to leave for me - bye #koha! |
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slef |
bah, another "shut up and code" email about listings requiring solidarity and linkback |
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javier |
hello |
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JavierFM |
brendan nos conocemos?? |
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JavierFM |
hello |
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JavierFM |
somebody want talk?? |
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owen |
Do you have a question JavierFM ? |
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JavierFM |
no |
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JavierFM |
but I just want to talk!!! |
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owen |
This channel is not a social gathering, it is a place for discussing use and development of Koha |
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JavierFM |
owen, sorry my friend did you know where i can make friens |
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JavierFM |
owen??? |
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nengard |
wizzyrea did you say that the manual auto updates on sundays? my content from last week isn't showing on the web version of the manual today |
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nengard |
hi Lee |
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Lee |
hey Nicole and Liz |
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brendan |
hi Lee |
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wizzyrea_away |
hey lee |
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wizzyrea_away |
oh one sec, i think I'm pulling from the wrong repo |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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Lee |
hey Liz are you really dumping FB? |
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chris |
been there done that |
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owen |
it's getting pretty scary... I'm still on the fence about whether the social connections are worth it |
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Lee |
hmm |
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Lee |
my life is pretty boring- but I do hate the targeted marketing |
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Lee |
hey brendan! |
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Lee |
there is a volunteer irc meeting today ...right? |
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chris |
yes, in about 4 hours |
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* owen |
would really like to be receiving bug emails again |
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chris |
i have a bunch of mail for koha-devel too |
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nengard |
i get too much out of FB (like jobs) - but it is very scary and I think I'll be making some major profile edits |
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nengard |
chris - mail to send to devel? or mail that came through? I haven't gotten any yet today |
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owen |
"Can't locate MARC/Crosswalk/DublinCore.pm in @INC" Anyone know if that is something I can apt-get? |
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gmcharlt |
owen: libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl |
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owen |
Thanks gmcharlt, I don't think I would have guessed that off the top of my head ;) |
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gmcharlt |
owen: ah, but you can |
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gmcharlt |
perl module Foo::Bar will almost always be libfoo-bar-perl |
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gmcharlt |
if it's packaged for Debian |
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owen |
Oh, I didn't realize it was consistent |
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chris |
nengard: ive sent bunches, it hasn't come through |
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nengard |
okay - same here |
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nengard |
not that i sent anything - just that i'm not getting anything |
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Lee |
I am working on a grant to migrate xl tab delimited files into Marc XML or DC anyone out there interested? |
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chris |
Lee: robin at catalyst is working on one to do csv (extending to tab would be trivial) |
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chris |
its already mostly done |
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Lee |
great! its a paying gig |
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chris |
too late |
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Lee |
if i give the # of records think I could get an estimate? |
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gmcharlt |
# records + sample of what the source data looks like + idea of what the records will be used for after they're converted |
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chris |
i meant robin is working on a script, so you can do it into MARCXML yourself :) |
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Lee |
;) |
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gmcharlt |
and MarcEdit can do CSV to MARC, I believe |
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Lee |
maybe...with a little assistance |
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chris |
yep, this script will free software of course |
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Lee |
naturally |
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chris |
we are actually using it to convert a db, but its general enough that it should be useful for anyone thats the idea |
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Lee |
we are co-opting with a local museum to add them as a branch to our opac |
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Lee |
their records are unsearchable |
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Lee |
as is |
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Lee |
hence undiscoverable |
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Lee |
you get the idea |
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gmcharlt |
records for their books, or records for their "stuff"? |
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Lee |
its an IMLS grant |
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Lee |
mostly all images |
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Lee |
TIF anf jpeg |
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Lee |
although some day DC would be helpful for the 3d objects, eh? |
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gmcharlt |
are the images on display already? if not sounds like it might be a job for kete as well |
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Lee |
yeah I was thinking about Kete |
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Lee |
we have a HUGE archive in town too |
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Lee |
http://www.miningmuseum.org/ |
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Lee |
http://www.buttearchives.org/collections.php |
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Lee |
I want to get all our records linked and searchable with Koha or possibly Kete |
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owen |
Okay, another one: Text/CSV/Encoded.pm. |
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owen |
apt-get doesn't find libtext-csv-encoded-perl |
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chris_n |
owen: try apt-cache search Text::CSV::Encoded |
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* chris_n |
seems to remember you have to cpan that one however |
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owen |
No output at all from the apt-cache command |
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chris |
will be soon |
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chris |
http://qa.debian.org/developer[…]et.nz&comaint=yes |
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chris_n |
you'll have to get it from cpan for now owen |
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* owen |
is amused by the "excuses" column in that table |
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* owen |
would add all kinds of excuses to his unfixed bugs |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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jwagner |
The dog ate my patch? |
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chris |
owen: its in unstable, it *might* isntall if you grab the .deb and sudo dpkg -i it on |
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slef |
Someone mentioned http://www.joindiaspora.com to me as a forthcoming FB-alternative. |
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owen |
Hi jdavidb |
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chris |
Lee: kete uses zebra too |
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chris |
so with pazpar2 and a bit of hackery, you can search koha and kete simultaneously and group the results |
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chris |
walter is planning to talk about koha + kete at kohacon |
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gmcharlt |
koha-patches also seems to be one of the victims of the mailing list outage |
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chris |
yeah, all @lists seems to be |
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chris |
mail is not bouncing |
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chris |
so its queued up somewhere, behind a cork |
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chris |
someone has jammed the tubes |
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slef |
anyone got a support number for biblibre? nengard? |
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nengard |
nope |
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chris |
i think they are aware of it, i emailed and hdl said he saw my email |
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slef |
well, if anyone would like our sysadmins to help, let me know and I'll send ssh public keys |
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slef |
although we don't have much spare hosting capacity just now, I think we could add it to our monitoring setup if we had access |
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gmcharlt |
slef: what do you use for monitoring? |
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slef |
gmcharlt: the core is nagios3. |
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slef |
but the main thing is we're sysadmins and we're in Europe where I think lists is, so we should notice and react fairly quick to alerts |
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gmcharlt |
sounds like a good idea - I hope biblibre picks up on it |
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slef |
I'll mention it next time we see them |
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slef |
for now, I'm hacking PHP :-( |
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gmcharlt |
my condolences |
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cait |
javaserver pages homework... |
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chris |
thats even worse |
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slef |
chris++ |
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zico |
hi |
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zico |
i need your help very badly guys |
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owen |
Hm, so Perl > PHP > JSP ? I wonder how the rest of the hierarchy goes |
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zico |
my koha-3.0.5 cannot print unicode barcode label |
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zico |
i mean, i need to print barcode in Bangla ( Bangladesh ). but, this is not working |
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zico |
i have more than 10,000 books in Bangla |
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chris_n |
zico: did you check out kbarcode? |
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zico |
Now, some professors are really giving a bad look at me & my team |
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zico |
chris_n: kbarcode is based on KDE |
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zico |
but, our library officer is running windows |
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chris |
does the barcode printer in master handle unicode? does anyone know? |
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chris |
its very unlikely that anyone can back port the barcode work to 3.0.5 (or would have time to) |
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chris |
firing up virtualbox with linux on it, and kbarcode would probably be the best bet |
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zico |
chris: virtualbox + kbarcode??? owaoo!!! it`s too high for that non-techy guy!!! :D |
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wizzyrea_away |
ok... the problem is that you need to print unicode barcodes on windows, ones that have or have not been generated by koha? |
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zico |
wizzyrea: i need to print unicode barcode generated by koha |
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wizzyrea |
would something like this work? |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.softmatic.com/ |
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chris |
well its not the barcode itself, its the spine lable, ie the barcode doesnt is just some lines |
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chris |
wow, grammar fail |
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nengard |
big time! :) |
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chris |
what i meant is, it is the spine label that needs to be able to be generated in unicode |
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chris |
the barcode is just lines |
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chris_n |
chris: its not strictly a koha-barcode utf8 issue; it is also a pdf standards issue |
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chris |
yep |
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chris_n |
I pointed someone the other day (maybe zico) to an list thread that sums it up |
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chris |
what i was trying to say, the chances of someone getting it to work for 3.0.5 are zero to none |
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chris_n |
yup |
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chris |
so exploring other options is the alternative |
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wizzyrea |
zico: could you export them to csv and then do some kind of merge with word to get your labels? |
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wizzyrea |
word/openoffice |
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zico |
wizzyrea: when i import it in csv, i got some "symbols" instead of Bangla language |
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slef |
owen: god writes in Lisp code. |
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chris |
prolog i thought |
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jdavidb |
Actually, perl: http://xkcd.com/224/ |
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slef |
No, I wasn't joking: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/m[…]sp-eternal-flame/ |
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slef |
well, maybe a little ;-) |
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owen |
All done, folks, see you later |
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mib_98t2xr |
Hi folks |
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mib_98t2xr |
I just ran the "upgrade" from koha-3.02.00-alpha, { perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log make make test sudo make upgrade } and now both the install log and the about koha page agree: 3.01.00.111 Not exactally the result I was hoping for. Does anybody know 1) how could the two have gotten out of sync in the first pl |
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mib_98t2xr |
ce? 2) why don't they both say 3.02.00.xxx? Here's something. The koha/apache error log says: [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] [error] [client 10.161.4.68] [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] about.pl: Can't exec "httpd2": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 49., referer: http://hslcat.med.nyu.edu:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl when |
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mib_98t2xr |
I click on "About Koha" |
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cait |
mib-98t2xr: there is no 3.02 yet, because its not released. 3.01 is correct |
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cait |
once 3.2 is released the number will be 3.02.00.00 |
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mib_98t2xr |
So http://koha-community.org/category/alpha/ is suppose to list itself as 3.01? |
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cait |
yes, its 01 until release, .03 will be development for 3.4 and so on |
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mib_98t2xr |
O.K. So how am I to distinguish the version I currently have from the version I had before the upgrade? |
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cait |
not sure what you ask |
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chris_n |
mib_98t2xr: what version did you have before the upgrade? |
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cait |
ah, thx chris_n :) |
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chris_n |
ahh... alpha |
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mib_98t2xr |
I'm asking about how I tell people what version I have. Right now I know I've got the 3.02 alpha, but the in system documentatation (i.e. the about page) says something else |
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cait |
alpha2 ;) |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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chris_n |
mib_98t2xr: .111 is alpha |
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cait |
you can give the number 3.01.00.111 |
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chris_n |
alpha2 is .133 |
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mib_98t2xr |
O.K. any idea about the new error message I get in the logs when I click on the about page? |
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chris_n |
we don't know what the "new error message" is |
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mib_98t2xr |
"The koha/apache error log says: [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] [error] [client 10.161.4.68] [Mon May 10 15:12:42 2010] about.pl: Can't exec "httpd2": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 49., referer: http://hslcat.med.nyu.edu:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl" |
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cait |
ah, sorry |
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mib_98t2xr |
No need for apologies, you guys are helping me. I'm grateful. |
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chris_n |
what platform are you running on? |
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mib_98t2xr |
Ubuntu |
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chris_n |
it appears that your apache is not returning a version number via 'httpd -v' |
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chris_n |
what version of ubuntu? |
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mib_98t2xr |
8.04.2 |
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mib_98t2xr |
I realize that's pretty far back. Do you think an old platform might have practical implications? |
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mib_98t2xr |
i.e. real "stuff doesn't work" errors as opposed to errors showing up in logs. |
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chris_n |
nope, you can safely ignore that error |
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mib_98t2xr |
O.K. guys. Thanks again. You guys are the best! |
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chris_n |
np |
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cait |
chris_n++ |
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chris_n |
wb paul_p |
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hdl_laptop |
chris slef gmcharlt sorry about the list shortage |
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hdl_laptop |
I asked nahuel to see that. |
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hdl_laptop |
But he was ill today |
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hdl_laptop |
hopefully all wil be ok tomorrow |
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chris |
thanks hdl_laptop |
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chris |
wow, my rss reader just went mental |
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chris |
ptfs have just pushed a whole pile of things to their public repo !!! |
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wizzyrea |
!!! |
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* jdavidb |
looks up from the bleeding stubs of his fingers, and nods. |
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chris |
w00t |
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chris |
jdavidb++ |
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* chris |
updates his clones |
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wizzyrea |
we've been looking over the release notes, there's some good stuff in there |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders if she dares... |
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wizzyrea |
ptfs++ |
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wizzyrea |
jdavidb++ |
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jdavidb |
thanks, Chris, but it wasn't just me. There should be some detail description stuff coming out in a PR shortly, but a lotta work went into what you're seein' there. |
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chris |
sweet |
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jdavidb |
jwagner++ |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner++ |
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cait |
jdavidb++ jwagner++ ptfs++ ;) |
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chris |
i guess rebasing onto master is the next step? Sing out if you want a hand with that, hdl have a bunch of practice cherry-picking |
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* cait |
wants to be as brave as liz ;) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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jdavidb |
We'll see where the honchos wanna go from here; Getting those branches up to master level shouldn't be overly hard; I've kept them all as tidy as I could. |
| 21:04 |
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jdavidb |
(In other words, if you see something you want to haul to master and get into 3.4--or even 3.2, gmcharlt--grab that ball and run with it.) |
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chris |
sweet |
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chris |
i might do some topic branches for 3.4 |
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chris |
(for features) |
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chris |
and gmcharlt might want to grab some bug fixes :) |
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wizzyrea |
jdavidb, please tell your superiors thanks, it's really great to see your stuff |
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gmcharlt |
chris: jdavidb: yep, already on it |
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jdavidb |
There are quite a few nifty-nice-but-not-too-huge features--useful buttons and shortcuts--as well as some huge new features like item suppression in the OPAC and suspend-and-resume holds. |
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cait |
liz, where are these release notes? github confuses me |
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gmcharlt |
and yes |
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gmcharlt |
jdavidb++ |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner++ |
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chris |
cait: http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS/commits/harley |
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wizzyrea |
http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PT[…]yReleaseNotes.pdf |
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gmcharlt |
ptfs++ # good start |
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chris |
last commit there |
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cait |
thx! |
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paul_p |
ptfs++ |
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jwagner |
We'll soon have a more user-friendly link to the release notes up. |
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wizzyrea |
Ah! There she is! |
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cait |
hi jwagner |
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wizzyrea |
we roused her! |
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* wizzyrea |
highfives jwagner |
| 21:07 |
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wizzyrea |
that 2nd one goes straight to the PDF |
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* cait |
sends some more chocolate |
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paul_p |
jwagner+= |
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paul_p |
jwagner++ |
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wizzyrea |
it's pretty friendly |
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paul_p |
jdavidb++ |
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wizzyrea |
well, as friendly as github gets |
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jdavidb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32. |
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jdavidb |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. |
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jdavidb |
Thanks, everyone. |
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wizzyrea |
only 6 behind jdavidb ;) |
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cait |
I will not finish this jsp homework today, becaue need to read release notes... |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I could _use_ rousing. And so could jdavidb. A lot of overtime put into these features over the last year. |
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wizzyrea |
it's obvious :) |
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cait |
its awesome |
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cait |
worth all the chocolate ;) |
| 21:11 |
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jdavidb |
jwagner writes good release notes, doesn't she? Those are (all but one little paragraph) off her bat, not mine. |
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wizzyrea |
ok, taking my girlie self to do girlie things. ttyl everyone |
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cait |
bye wizzyrea |
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jdavidb |
Links to a FAQ, a download tarball, the release notes, and a reminder link to github are now up at http://www.liblime.com/downloads |
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jdavidb |
(looks like someone typoed the FAQ link; a comma snuck in. I'll ping 'em, but make that a period, and it works. |
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chris |
cool |
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mason |
meh, rdl's box has hung... |
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joetho |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
joetho: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. |
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joetho |
@karma wizzyrea |
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joetho |
I just hope jdavid doesn't get fired for doing that |
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paul_p |
joetho, doing what ? releasing their code? for sure, he's been asked by his bosses to do so ! |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
why should he be fired? i think this is official |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
its already on koha.org too :) |
| 21:22 |
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jdavidb |
What, for tossing all those branches over the wall? nope. Someone at the hgher-up owes me happy hour. |
| 21:22 |
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jwagner |
This is definitely official. We have committed all along to releasing these features. |
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jwagner |
It just took us a lot longer than we would have liked to get them all tidied up & ready to go. |
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* jwagner |
REALLY wishes we could have made the 3.2 code freeze.... |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
me too |
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joetho |
this is marvelous |
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cait |
every time I hear about a new feature i want it immediately. now i have to wati for 50.... |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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* jwagner |
sends cait a boatload of patience :-) |
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joetho |
maybe we could make an exception? |
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jwagner |
But you'll note that we did set this up as a full install version as well as the individual branches. |
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gmcharlt |
joetho: not if we want to see 3.2 come out this year |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
jwagner: really needed :) |
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jdavidb |
press release is up, at http://www.liblime.com/news/li[…]mmediate-download |
| 21:24 |
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jwagner |
Just remember that the install version is based off the .061 code level so it won't have any of the 3.2 stuff. |
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chris_n |
wow! ptfs++ |
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chris_n |
jwagner++ |
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chris_n |
jdavidb++ |
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cait |
perhaps we could try and hurry up a bit with 3.4? :) |
| 21:25 |
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jwagner |
We did cherry-pick a lot of bug fixes, most of which aren't mentioned in the release notes. Things like chris_n's followup patches for the label creator, etc. |
| 21:26 |
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jwagner |
jdavidb knows better than I do about the bug fixes. |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
but when you run harley, you cant update to 3.2 easily I think or 3.4 |
| 21:26 |
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jwagner |
That's where we need to work with Galen & Chris. |
| 21:27 |
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jdavidb |
Pretty much, if a bug was found by one of our customers, and a fix was in HEAD that wasn't in HEAD prior to Oct 12, I cherry-picked it. if someone sent a patch to the list, that hadn't made head, I snagged it and git-am'd it. |
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chris |
yeah we are going to have to create an upgrade path |
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chris |
probably to 3.4 |
| 21:27 |
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jdavidb |
Just given the data struct changes, 3.0.x - |
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chris |
its a bit late for 3.2 |
| 21:28 |
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jdavidb |
to 3.4 will be easy. 3.2 should not be *too* hard. |
| 21:28 |
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chris |
which means some of the refactoring is gonna have to slide |
| 21:28 |
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chris |
but thats a good topic for the next irc meeting :) |
| 21:29 |
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jdavidb |
chris: depends. We didn't do much to C4::Search, for instance, which I know was one of your big rocks. Might be able to get there without too much pain and suffering. |
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chris |
C4::Search, C4::Languages, and DBIx::Class |
| 21:29 |
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chris |
are the ones id die in a ditch on |
| 21:29 |
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chris |
the rest id love to have |
| 21:30 |
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jdavidb |
We didn't touch C4::Languages at all. There are some areas of overlap--notices, C4::Letters, in particular, and granular permissions will need some reconciliation. |
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* gmcharlt |
concurs with chris, particularly regarding C4;:Search and C4::Languages |
| 21:30 |
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jwagner |
And there's one big new Perl dependency -- the Aspell library |
| 21:31 |
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jdavidb |
The "did you mean" feature is a little raw, but it functions; dbirmingham here is going to be adding a syspref so you select how many suggestions to get (or zero, to turn it off). |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
upgrade path from where to where? |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
sorry, should really sleep, but cant sleep now... |
| 21:32 |
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jdavidb |
3.0.x - harley - 3.4 should be a snap, depending on chris's work.. |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
but where does 3.2 fit in there? |
| 21:33 |
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jdavidb |
3.0.x - harley - 3.2 will be tricky, but if you don't use some of the new geekery in harley that changes data structures, you should be okay. |
| 21:33 |
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chris |
cait: for most ppl they will got 3.0.x to 3.2.x to 3.4.x |
| 21:33 |
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jdavidb |
(since those features would disappear when you went to 3.2.) |
| 21:33 |
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chris |
but it is important we provide an upgrade path for ptfs customers also |
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* chris_n |
agrees |
| 21:34 |
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cait |
I think we are most people then, running 3.01.61 in production right now |
| 21:34 |
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chris |
yeah you are already 3.1.ish |
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chris |
so you will got to 3.2 when its released |
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cait |
cant wait :) |
| 21:34 |
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chris |
and on to 3.4 soon after |
| 21:35 |
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chris |
as soon as i can manage :) |
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cait |
we will all try to help you :) |
| 21:35 |
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chris |
the best help now, is fixing 3.2 blockers |
| 21:35 |
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chris |
so we can get it released :) |
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* chris |
looks at everyone including himself |
| 21:36 |
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jdavidb |
I'm off to catch my bus. Y'all have a good evening. |
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cait |
I wrote a lot of bug reports today... *ducks* |
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cait |
bye jdavidb |
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| 21:37 |
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* jwagner |
is going to go home too, and go to bed early.... |
| 21:37 |
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chris |
sleep well |
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cait |
sleep well |
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cait |
I love to have my own koha at work now, makes my life much easier (testing patches and perhaps writing some more patches soon :) ) |
| 21:39 |
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chris |
:) |
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genji |
how difficult is it to go from 3.0.5 to 3.2? |
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chris |
why do marketing ppl have to ruin it all |
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chris |
genji: it shouldnt be hard, if its a standard 3.0.5 |
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cait |
chris: dont know... |
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| 21:51 |
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jo |
so with PTFS code now inthe wild isn't that fantastic news for Koha? |
| 21:51 |
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genji |
wow.. PTFS released code! |
| 21:51 |
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jo |
yep :) |
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genji |
this is LEK? |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
its not llek, but the features ptfs developed |
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jo |
imagine, not to far down the track, Koha code could once again incorporate all the development that other Koha libraries contracted through LL |
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jo |
that is a hige step for PTFS |
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jo |
huge even :) |
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jo |
and the best news for the Koha community |
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chilts |
that is great news! |
| 21:52 |
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genji |
its released under GPLv3? |
| 21:53 |
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chris |
gplv2 or later |
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jo |
its the path to wards getting the fork incorporated back into the trunk again. |
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chris |
just like the rest of koha is currently |
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jo |
I'm really impressed with PTFS for doing that :) |
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larsw |
ptfs++ in that case |
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russ |
kohdcon volunteers meeting will start in 2 mins |
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genji |
gpl2. |
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chilts |
so it looks like they are aiming for inclusion in 3.4 |
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genji |
does gpl2 allow us to bring the code back into head, and make it gpl3? |
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* mason |
waves |
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chris |
its gplv2 or later .. the same as everything else is genji |
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chris |
so yes |
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mason |
ive got to get a kapiti-train in 15 mins |
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russ |
just giving nicole a few more mins, then we will start |
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richard |
cool |
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irmalibraries |
Irma from CALYX - G'day all! |
| 22:00 |
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joetho |
I just got an email from PTFS, mentioning 3.2. |
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joetho |
Excellent news! |
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mason |
heya russ, long time - old buddy :) |
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russ |
hiya mason |
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joetho |
probably too late for 3.2, unless there are some very specific overlaps in development, which seems unlikely. |
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mason |
i thought i had missed this meeting, happy i didnt |
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chris |
joetho: bug fixes tho, its possible to pull them in |
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chris |
no new features tho |
| 22:02 |
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joetho |
But the best part is PTFS cooperating with the community. |
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irmalibraries |
What is the "Excellent news"? pls |
| 22:02 |
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jo |
hi guys. |
| 22:02 |
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joetho |
I will quote a few key lines from the listserv email |
| 22:02 |
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irmalibraries |
ho Jo |
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jo |
I need to offer apologies for leaving early - 10.30 |
| 22:03 |
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jo |
training for 3.2 go live on 27 may |
| 22:03 |
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chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]de-hits-the-wild/ |
| 22:03 |
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russ |
all good we will get started then |
| 22:03 |
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chris |
(for irmalibraries |
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chris |
) |
| 22:03 |
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joetho |
"LibLime has made available a tested, stable release of Koha for immediate download at http://koha.org/download. " |
| 22:03 |
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russ |
KohaCon10 Volunteers meeting starting - sorry folks can we take over the channel for 30 mins or so |
| 22:04 |
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russ |
Who is here for the meeting? |
| 22:04 |
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joetho |
...see main koha listserv for more |
| 22:04 |
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joetho |
which I was going. |
| 22:04 |
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* russ |
- Russel Garlick, Catalyst |
| 22:04 |
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joetho |
*wish |
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jo |
or t ake kohacon to another channel? |
| 22:04 |
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russ |
no main channel |
| 22:04 |
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russ |
it is logged |
| 22:04 |
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* chilts |
Andrew Chilton, Catalyst IT |
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jo |
Joann Ransom - HLT |
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chris |
Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT |
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* larsw |
Lars Wirzenius, Catalyst IT |
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russ |
heh we could almost have this meeting at the water cooler then ;-) |
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irmalibraries |
BobB has a tech issue but is sitting in with irmalibraries |
| 22:06 |
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russ |
thanks all for turning up moving on |
| 22:06 |
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russ |
first up - apologies, i didnt get round to the minutes of the last meeting or doing much of late |
| 22:07 |
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russ |
been flat out here and moving house etc etc |
| 22:07 |
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jo |
apology accepted :) |
| 22:07 |
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* mason |
-> KohaAloha, NZ |
| 22:07 |
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mason |
hi all |
| 22:07 |
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russ |
but our 2 topics today are sponsorship and programme updates |
| 22:07 |
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russ |
so Sponsorship |
| 22:08 |
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russ |
Catalyst have confirmed that they will sponsor the conference, and with that amount we have all the funds for the venuw |
| 22:08 |
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russ |
s/venuw/venue |
| 22:08 |
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jo |
thank you for getting that commitment Russ. Trustees grateful :) |
| 22:09 |
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russ |
so chris and i won't have to dip into our piggy banks :-) |
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irmalibraries |
+1 catalyst! |
| 22:09 |
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jo |
I do believe Calyx also contrubuted :) |
| 22:09 |
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russ |
i am still waiting to hear back from a couple of other places, but all good there |
| 22:09 |
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mason |
yay catalyst |
| 22:09 |
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chilts |
catalyst ... and others :) |
| 22:10 |
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russ |
yep thanks to Calyz and Xercode as well for coming on board since our last meeting |
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russ |
fingers need more coffee |
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chris |
we mustnt forget libriotech also |
| 22:11 |
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russ |
i am not sure if there is much more to add on that topic |
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chris |
who don't have a logo, but contributed all the way from norway even though they can't make it |
| 22:11 |
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chris |
(+bywater and biblibre) |
| 22:11 |
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* chris |
notes for the log |
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russ |
:-) |
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jo |
wow - can't we put their name up or something? |
| 22:12 |
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russ |
i'll do a sponsors page sometime soon listing everyone |
| 22:12 |
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chris |
they are up |
| 22:12 |
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jo |
cool :) |
| 22:12 |
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chris |
libriotech are on the frontpage |
| 22:12 |
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russ |
their names are on the site |
| 22:12 |
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mason |
sorry folks , im running very late for a train to kapiti |
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jo |
cya Mason |
| 22:13 |
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russ |
cya mason |
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mason |
ill catch up with russ later, bye all |
| 22:13 |
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jo |
I've got 15 mins left |
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irmalibraries |
cheers Mason |
| 22:13 |
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richard |
sorry had a phone call - Richard Anderson - Katipo |
| 22:13 |
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jo |
(for the agenda: i have info about trip up to leving for mayoral reception / marae visit) |
| 22:13 |
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russ |
ok so action point is to tidy up the sponsors logos and make a page |
| 22:13 |
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russ |
ok jo, nicole hasnt shown yet so lets jump to that |
| 22:14 |
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jo |
sorry forbeing pushy |
| 22:14 |
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russ |
all good |
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chilts |
russ: I've been helping Chris get the sponsorts logos up, so anymore to be added, send the logos my way :) |
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chilts |
sponsors even |
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jo |
the bus cost for return transport wellington - levin is about $22 - $25 a head (based on 100 people) |
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chilts |
though chris has been keeping on top of it I think |
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chris |
re the programme i have been plugging stuff into the spreadsheet |
| 22:14 |
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jo |
$720 a bus for 49 people ish |
| 22:15 |
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jo |
local Iwi have agreed to host us out at the marae for an evening meal, preceded by a formal welcome / powhiri |
| 22:15 |
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russ |
ok cool - so we should put some information up about that then |
| 22:15 |
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jo |
this will be around $35 per head |
| 22:15 |
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jo |
the mayoral recption at council is all good - had a letter from the mayor |
| 22:16 |
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russ |
so $25 for bus + $35 for dinner = $65 all up for the trip? |
| 22:16 |
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jo |
I think so, trying to get confoirmation that the recepotion will be free |
| 22:16 |
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irmalibraries |
Discount for Au and US dollars, of course |
| 22:17 |
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jo |
It will be cool - driving up the coast at say 4pm, nice scenery, see levin, marae visit |
| 22:17 |
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russ |
jo - can you send me all the details via email please |
| 22:17 |
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russ |
and i will make a page on the site |
| 22:17 |
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chris |
up the coast at 4pm ... eek :) |
| 22:17 |
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jo |
good opportunity for conference attendees |
| 22:17 |
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irmalibraries |
Good value imho |
| 22:17 |
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jo |
3pm then :) |
| 22:17 |
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russ |
jo - we will have to leave earlier than 4 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 22:17 |
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russ |
otherwise we wont get there until very late |
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chris |
im looking at thursday for that |
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jo |
Thursday is fine. |
| 22:17 |
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jo |
3pm is fine |
| 22:17 |
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chris |
we can always stop at lindale for icecream |
| 22:17 |
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russ |
chris: so after the conference itself? |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 22:18 |
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russ |
cool |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
monday, tues weds conference |
| 22:18 |
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jo |
George is trying to find a sponsor for this so we can do it for free but is a bit stuck |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
thurs day morning do your own thing, afternoon bus trip |
| 22:18 |
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russ |
ok if that is the case, may be we will try and leave a little earlier than 3 even |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
friday dev conference starts |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
i was think yeah 1 or 2 |
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russ |
good plan |
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jo |
well we could change this around a bit then .... make a day of it |
| 22:19 |
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russ |
it will take a while to get people sorted, and best to miss the traffic |
| 22:19 |
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chris |
i was thinking an afternoon |
| 22:19 |
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jo |
the bus costs will be dearer then |
| 22:19 |
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russ |
right |
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chris |
not the full day |
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chris |
leave the morning for shopping etc |
| 22:19 |
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russ |
meet MFC Carpark say 1:30 |
| 22:19 |
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russ |
and then go from there |
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chris |
that'd work |
| 22:20 |
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jo |
lets advertsise at approx $70 per head TBC |
| 22:20 |
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russ |
by the time everyone gets on board etc |
| 22:20 |
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russ |
jo: we need to have a confirmed price |
| 22:20 |
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jo |
on phone now |
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jo |
getting an updated price |
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russ |
and we may only get 1 bus |
| 22:20 |
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jo |
ok |
| 22:20 |
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russ |
some people may leave straight after the conference etc |
| 22:21 |
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jo |
yep |
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chris |
re the programme |
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russ |
jo i know you have to leave soon |
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russ |
can you send me all the details of the trip and your proposed plan |
| 22:21 |
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jo |
yep |
| 22:21 |
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russ |
and i'll make a page |
| 22:22 |
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russ |
over to chris for programme |
| 22:22 |
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chris |
we are doing pretty well |
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irmalibraries |
Russ, BobB asks: how many people are registered for the conference now? |
| 22:22 |
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chris |
we have monday and tuesday sorted |
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chris |
(if ppl who said they can speak ... really can) |
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chris |
with about 4 more talks in the wings for wednesday, so we are lookgin good |
| 22:23 |
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russ |
irmalibraries: i havent checked recently - chris or chilts might know |
| 22:23 |
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chris |
not a huge amount Bobb |
| 22:23 |
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chilts |
that reminds me, I should go and register :) |
| 22:23 |
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chilts |
heh |
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russ |
i think it is still early days in that regard |
| 22:23 |
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chris |
yeah most nzers havent bothered |
| 22:23 |
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chris |
well its getting less early |
| 22:23 |
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russ |
chris that is great news about the programme |
| 22:23 |
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chris |
only 5 months away |
| 22:24 |
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irmalibraries |
Chris: +1 |
| 22:24 |
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russ |
so nicole wont have to present 6 times :-) |
| 22:24 |
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chris |
but nicole is sending out a reminder in the next newsletter |
| 22:24 |
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chris |
shes not even up once yet, neither am I :) |
| 22:24 |
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russ |
ok that has to change :-) |
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chris |
i havent slotted in paul yet either |
| 22:25 |
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russ |
right - well that is sounding really good |
| 22:25 |
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chris |
if ppl email an address they use with google docs |
| 22:25 |
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chris |
ill give access to the program |
| 22:25 |
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chris |
and list of potential papers |
| 22:25 |
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russ |
so should we call for a closing date now? |
| 22:25 |
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jo |
($65 pp including transport and marae visit 1.30 - 10pm confirmed ) |
| 22:25 |
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chris |
and others can help :) |
| 22:25 |
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russ |
i was thinking 1 june |
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jo |
(and Mayoral reception) |
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chris |
i think yeah, end of june for papers? |
| 22:26 |
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chris |
actually yeah mid june |
| 22:26 |
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russ |
or end june |
| 22:26 |
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chris |
lets split the diff |
| 22:26 |
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russ |
lol |
| 22:26 |
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jo |
gotta go - cya |
| 22:26 |
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russ |
thanks jo |
| 22:26 |
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irmalibraries |
Bye Jo |
| 22:26 |
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chris |
cos we need time to contact ppl and say, right you are up |
| 22:26 |
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chris |
etc |
| 22:26 |
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russ |
ok |
| 22:26 |
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chris |
and then rearrange the programme |
| 22:26 |
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russ |
so how about 15 June |
| 22:27 |
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chris |
works for me |
| 22:27 |
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russ |
and we can have our next meeting the day after |
| 22:27 |
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irmalibraries |
15 June +1 |
| 22:27 |
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russ |
then we know what kind of posistion we are in - if we have enough speakers or not |
| 22:28 |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_away |
| 22:28 |
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chris |
yep |
| 22:28 |
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russ |
cool |
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* russ |
makes a todo item to send out minutes today |
| 22:29 |
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russ |
chris do you have anything else? |
| 22:29 |
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chris |
nope |
| 22:29 |
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chris |
just htat ppl should start working their networks |
| 22:29 |
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irmalibraries |
What should we do to promote KohaCon and get ppl to register? |
| 22:29 |
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chris |
id hate for a conference in nz to not have a decent presence of nzers and aussies |
| 22:30 |
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russ |
irmalibraries: i think we get into high gear on that once we have a programme |
| 22:30 |
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chris |
we are doing pretty good on the further afield people |
| 22:30 |
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russ |
i know many people don't register until they can see what is on offer |
| 22:30 |
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russ |
so if get the programme sorted by end of June, and confirmed for beginning of July |
| 22:30 |
|
russ |
then we can start promoting who is talking etc |
| 22:31 |
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chris |
yep |
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| 22:31 |
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russ |
hi nicole :-) |
| 22:31 |
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nengard |
did i miss the meeting?? |
| 22:31 |
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russ |
almost :-) |
| 22:31 |
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nengard |
dinner was longer than usual |
| 22:31 |
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nengard |
sorry |
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| 22:31 |
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nengard |
what do you all need me to do |
| 22:32 |
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russ |
so to recap deadline for papers is 15 June (NZ time) |
| 22:32 |
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chris |
yep |
| 22:32 |
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russ |
next meeting is 16 June (NZ time) |
| 22:32 |
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russ |
aim to get the programme finalised by 1 July |
| 22:32 |
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russ |
so we can publish it and start promoting who is speaking |
| 22:32 |
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russ |
and start driving registrations |
| 22:32 |
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nengard |
I will be on the road on the 16th of June, but will get an update to you all before the meeting |
| 22:32 |
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chris |
i have you penciled in at 4pm tuesday nicole, so start thinking on what you want to talk about |
| 22:33 |
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jo |
back until 11 |
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nengard |
I need to review the topics that have been chosen already and I'll fill in a gap |
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| 22:34 |
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jo |
can someone point me towards the programme so far please |
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nengard |
it's a google doc that i'll share with you |
| 22:34 |
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jo |
hfields19gmail.com |
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irmalibraries |
Chris Has Sue Lavery registered for a talk? |
| 22:35 |
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chris |
not that ive seen |
| 22:35 |
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jo |
I'd quite like PTFS to come down and present |
| 22:35 |
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irmalibraries |
She is a librarian in Canberra and wishes to share her experience of Koha in a prison |
| 22:35 |
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jo |
would be good for the cpommunity |
| 22:35 |
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russ |
jo - i am about to send them an email re sponsorship |
| 22:35 |
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jo |
cool. |
| 22:36 |
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irmalibraries |
Please keep a spot - We will co-present |
| 22:36 |
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irmalibraries |
and register asap |
| 22:36 |
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russ |
irmalibraries: https://spreadsheets.google.co[…]m5ENXlaSnJnTFE6MA ;-) |
| 22:36 |
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chris |
yep there is room |
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nengard |
i'll put out a final call in the newsletter |
| 22:37 |
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nengard |
i'll include the deadline |
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irmalibraries |
thanks |
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russ |
nengard: thank you |
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chris |
2pm tuesday ive pencilled in |
| 22:37 |
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russ |
nengard: what is your availbility like at the end of june? |
| 22:37 |
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nengard |
that's ALA |
| 22:37 |
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russ |
ah |
| 22:38 |
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russ |
so not good then |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
24th-30th |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
so i'll be available at nights EST |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
if I'm not totally exhausted :) |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
why? |
| 22:38 |
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russ |
chris seems to be doing a pretty good job with the programme |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
I know - thanks Chris!! |
| 22:38 |
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russ |
just if we need to throw some ideas around etc |
| 22:38 |
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russ |
we'd like to get i published at the beginning of july |
| 22:38 |
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nengard |
chris usually finds me whenever i'm online :) |
| 22:39 |
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slef |
dang, missed the meeting again :-/ |
| 22:39 |
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russ |
yeah he is good like that |
| 22:39 |
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nengard |
I'll be home on the 21st-23rd of June |
| 22:39 |
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russ |
ok |
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* russ |
makes a note of that |
| 22:39 |
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nengard |
that's the time in between SLA & ALA |
| 22:39 |
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nengard |
June is crazy |
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irmalibraries |
Good morning Slef |
| 22:39 |
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slef |
evening irmalibraries! |
| 22:40 |
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chris |
9am on the 26th slef :) |
| 22:40 |
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slef |
9am for who and 26th of what? :) |
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* slef |
scrollbacks |
| 22:40 |
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russ |
i think he is talking about when you are presenting |
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russ |
:-) |
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chris |
:) |
| 22:40 |
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chris |
pencilled in anyway |
| 22:40 |
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slef |
cool... did I send in any title yet? |
| 22:41 |
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chris |
yep |
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chris |
you are talking about cooperatives :) |
| 22:41 |
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slef |
great... I must fix my memory :) |
| 22:41 |
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chris |
Koha: A cooperative view |
| 22:41 |
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nengard |
hehe |
| 22:41 |
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slef |
oh yeah, NZCA were meant to be getting back to me |
| 22:41 |
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nengard |
slef no worries- i never remember what i'm talking about until the day before i have to talk |
| 22:42 |
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nengard |
usually it's fine - unless it's a totally new topic - then i have to scramble to prepare |
| 22:42 |
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slef |
Ironically, I'm back at my PC working for co-operative.coop now, so Koha stuff was out of my mind :) |
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russ |
sorry team i have to run |
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russ |
i think we are sorted now |
| 22:43 |
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irmalibraries |
Thanks Russ, good meeting today. |
| 22:43 |
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jo |
Thanks Russ |
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jo |
thanks all |
| 22:43 |
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russ |
minutes will be out in a few hours or so |
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nengard |
thanks! |
| 22:50 |
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nengard |
chris bob wants to be penciled in too |
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chris |
which bob? |
| 22:51 |
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chris |
Bob Birchall? |
| 22:51 |
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jo |
http://www.ngamanu.co.nz/visit.php |
| 22:51 |
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jo |
we would have tons of time heading north to levin if we left at 1.30 |
| 22:51 |
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jo |
c ould go nga manu |
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chris |
maybe :) |
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jo |
chris: you'll bring Laurel and the bambini with you yes? |
| 22:52 |
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jo |
to levin i mean |
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jo |
on bus trip |
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chris |
highly likely yes |
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chris |
someones gotta sing my waiata |
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jo |
well i think we should build in a wee detour to Nga manu then :) |
| 22:53 |
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jo |
oh yes - you will be our alpha male in the powhiri |
| 22:53 |
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jo |
when we are welcomed on to the marae |
| 22:53 |
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jo |
better brush up your te reo my friend :) |
| 22:53 |
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chris |
heh |
| 22:53 |
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jo |
and we'll have to learn a waiata in the bus on the way |
| 22:54 |
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jo |
Te Hiira said he would help us with the powhiri - make sure we are left floundering :) |
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| 22:59 |
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jo |
$10 discounted rate for freedom walk at nga manu or $15 for Tui package: Visitors are welcomed and given a talk by a staff member. The talk covers aspects of Tuatara and Kiwi life cycles and unique features. This is followed by a walk to the eel feeding area and a presentation and feeding by your guide. |
| 22:59 |
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chris |
id say lets leave that |
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jo |
yep |
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chris |
and run it by people at the conference |
| 22:59 |
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jo |
its getting quite pricey aye |
| 22:59 |
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chris |
i think taking it leisurely |
| 22:59 |
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chris |
with a stop for ice cream at lindale |
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jo |
ice cream at lindale |
| 22:59 |
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chris |
is the low stress option |
| 23:00 |
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chris |
theres a lot of walking at nga manu |
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jo |
could also stop at otaki outlet stores on main drag |
| 23:00 |
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chris |
we dont want to have ppl having to power walk |
| 23:00 |
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jo |
no indeed |
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chris |
if we get to levin to early |
| 23:00 |
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jo |
that whats i'm thinking |
| 23:00 |
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chris |
we can just go out to the beach for a look |
| 23:00 |
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jo |
leaving wgtn at 1.30 - its 1,5 hrs to levin driving |
| 23:00 |
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jo |
of course we could :) |
| 23:00 |
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chris |
so 2 in a bus |
| 23:01 |
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chris |
with no accidents |
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chris |
on that stupid piece of road |
| 23:01 |
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jo |
oh -and the road woprks. |
| 23:01 |
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chris |
between pukerua and paekakariki |
| 23:01 |
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jo |
right - thats settled :) |
| 23:05 |
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chris |
ok enough playing with the programme, someone elses turn, back to bugfixing i go |
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chris |
jwagner: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]de-hits-the-wild/ |
| 23:10 |
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jwagner |
Just saw the link, haven't read it yet :-) |
| 23:10 |
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chris |
:) |
| 23:11 |
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jwagner |
Thought I'd poke my head back in, in case anyone had any more questions tonight. |
| 23:11 |
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chris |
we were all busy with a kohacon planning meeting, but im sure some will come :) |
| 23:20 |
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chris |
ok time to make a coffee before meetings |
| 23:20 |
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chris |
bbiab |
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gmcharlt |
chris: possible way to keep track of integration: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration |
| 23:22 |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, nice |
| 23:22 |
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jwagner |
I was telling chris earlier, this includes the 4-5 features that are parallel development. Some of them I think can integrate, but at least one is going to be a real bear. |
| 23:24 |
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gmcharlt |
ep |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
| 23:24 |
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gmcharlt |
that's what the 'conflict' column is for |
| 23:24 |
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gmcharlt |
like what I did with Bug4257 |
| 23:24 |
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gmcharlt |
4247, rather |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: if you wouldn't mind filling in descriptions on that wiki page as well as noting when things are already present in 3.2, that would save chris and I a lot of time |
| 23:25 |
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jwagner |
The overall install package also includes some things that are already in head or sent. I'll have to check w/jdavidb in the morning; I _think_ the individual branches are only for the new stuff. |
| 23:25 |
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gmcharlt |
since I think you'll be going through all of those bugs anyway |
| 23:25 |
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jwagner |
Will do -- I have an internal list that's updated, and I would be referring to that when I update the bugzilla entries. |
| 23:26 |
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gmcharlt |
there are at least 7 or 8 branches that include stuff already in head when I spotchecked |
| 23:26 |
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jwagner |
He might have pushed everything, then. |
| 23:26 |
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gmcharlt |
that's fine - those will be the easiest to straighten out |
| 23:28 |
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chris_n |
is it me or is irc.katipo.co.nz timeing out in the states? |
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Nate |
gnight all |
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chris_n |
three different clients time out for me when attempting to connect |
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jwagner |
chris_n, I haven't had any trouble. |
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chris_n |
rtt's are nearly 400ms |
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chris_n |
jwagner: how about trying this: http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]z&channel=%23koha |
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mib_2kq0s1 |
This is jwagner -- seems to be fine, chris_n. Must be you :-( |
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* chris_n |
wonders what he's done to offend the irc server :'( |
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chris_n |
success |
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chris_n |
heya cn_perl_bot |
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chris |
:) |
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