IRC log for #koha, 2010-04-16

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02:29 gmcharlt chris++
02:34 chris ?
02:38 * gmcharlt makes chris guess ;)
02:39 richard heh
02:42 indradg lol
02:42 indradg gmcharlt, ping
02:44 chris pazpar2 and gutenberg?
03:00 gmcharlt indradg: pong
03:01 indradg gmcharlt, any decisions finally on the wiki s/w to use?
03:01 gmcharlt do you have an opinion on the matter
03:02 gmcharlt ?
03:03 larsw thinking of switching to a new wiki engine for koha?
03:03 indradg gmcharlt, I would say DocuWIki would be better tool
03:04 gmcharlt indradg: why?  (honest question here - are you speaking from doing a direct comparison?)
03:05 * larsw really likes ikiwiki ( but has no idea what's needed or wanted from a wiki for koha
03:05 chris larsw: i bet you say ikiwiki
03:05 chris you type too fast :-)
03:05 larsw :)
03:05 larsw I type faster than I read, I can't help it
03:07 gmcharlt larsw: from my point of view, any wiki software that (a) encourages people (including librarians) to use and update it (b) has reasonable support for managing multiple languages and translations of pages and (c) has a reasonable plugin architecture and is well-supported
03:09 larsw gmcharlt, I haven't tested it yet, but ikiwiki has translation support via po files (i.e., gettext) and has a good plugin architecture; support is a matter of taste and money (joeyh, ikiwiki author, is typically quite fast at fixing things, but does it currently as a hobby)
03:09 larsw I have no idea about encouragement
03:10 gmcharlt translation of wiki content via .po files, or the wiki's user interface?
03:10 gmcharlt one of the other motivations for a new wiki is to have a clean slate so that the content can be licensed under the GPL
03:10 gmcharlt there was a community vote to relicense the current wiki under the GPL
03:11 gmcharlt and although there were no negative votes as far as I know, not all known contributors voted to relicense
03:11 gmcharlt so the current wiki is left in a mixed licensing situation
03:12 gmcharlt the choice of wiki software is othogonal to the question of creating a new wiki in the first place
03:12 larsw translation of wiki content:
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03:45 Amit_G heya brendan, chris
03:47 chris hiya Amit_G
03:48 * larsw sends out a couple of patches for Debian packaging
03:50 chris woo hoo :)
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04:39 gmcharlt larsw++
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04:55 zico hi
04:55 zico how are you all?
04:55 zico :)
04:57 zico i am facing a little bit problem in my Koha server
04:57 zico my koha cannot calculate fines
04:57 zico i mean.... my patron has overdue....but... outstanding fines are showing 0.0 !!!
04:58 zico this is very important for me...because.... in my instituition ... koha is in production machine.... and we are running koha daily
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05:41 zico is there anyone who can help me regarding this Outstanding Fine issue?
05:46 Amit_G heya zico
05:48 zico Amit_G: Hi
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05:52 nicomo hello #koha
05:55 brendan heya nicomo
05:55 nicomo hi brendan
05:55 nicomo baseball game was nice?
05:55 brendan was alright
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05:56 brendan congrats nicomo on the new job
05:56 brendan nicomo++
05:56 nicomo thanks
06:04 Ropuch^_ Morning #koha
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06:23 brendan @wunder San Francisco CA
06:23 munin brendan: The current temperature in North Mission (Valencia & Market), San Francisco, California is 12.8�C (11:12 PM PDT on April 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
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06:55 kf hi #koha
06:56 hdl_laptop hi zihi kf
06:57 kf ah, laptop restart bbl
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07:10 kf hi #koha again
07:11 Ropuch^_ Hi kf
07:13 kf hi Ropuch
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07:14 magnus g'day #koha
07:15 kf hi magnus
07:15 magnus Guten Morgen, kf
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07:16 magnus bon jour, paul_p
07:17 paul_p hello magnus ! good (volcanoed) morning
07:17 paul_p nahuel was supposed to flight to Sierra Leone ... today... flight cancelled, of course !
07:17 magnus thanks! still no planes running, but at least we don't have the smell of sulphur they have further south
07:18 magnus poor nahuel!
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07:19 Amit_G heya kf, Ropuch
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07:27 kf hi Amit_G
07:27 Amit_G heya nahuel
07:27 nahuel hey!
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08:22 chris evening all
08:23 magnus hiya chris
08:24 chris oh so patches from Amit_G
08:24 chris so = some
08:24 * chris goes to look
08:24 chris oh cool
08:24 * chris hopes kf comes back i want to ask how her presentation went
08:25 chris nahuel: are you going to sierra leone for work?
08:28 Amit_G yes chris
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08:30 chris im also very exited about larsw's packaging stuff
08:31 chris specially[…]uild-git-snapshot
08:32 chilts that's a very clean looking script too, very nice
08:32 * chilts didn't even realise a few of the things you could do (from that script)
08:33 chris yeah
08:33 chris tis neat
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08:55 magnus so tht brings us closer to "sudo apt-get install koha", right?
08:55 magnus s/tht/that/
08:56 chris yup
08:57 chris do you can build the package and dpkg -i it
08:57 chris do=now
08:57 chris its not ready to go into debian yet, but it actually will install a working koha
09:01 magnus wow, that is great!
09:10 slef magnus: ITYM aptitude install koha these days ;-)
09:10 slef hi all... I'm not here much today
09:11 magnus slef: sure...
09:13 nahuel chris, I had to take the plane today... but with this volcano in Iceland I can't...
09:13 nahuel I'll go monday
09:13 chris for work? or a holiday
09:14 nahuel work
09:14 slef nahuel: you reckon things will be flying Monday? :-/
09:14 nahuel i'm going to install koha
09:14 nahuel slef, It seem tonight or tomorow all flights be back
09:14 slef I helped rescue one Englishman from Germany yesterday. Got one of the last Eurostar seats back.
09:15 chris my sister is in london, she cant get back to nz
09:15 slef nahuel: yesterday they were saying all flights will be back this morning.  Geologists say there is no telling when the volcano stops.
09:15 nahuel Brussel Airlines said me monday will be flights
09:15 nahuel chris, she have some free holidays :)
09:16 chris well, not free ... act of god, airlines/insurance wont pay :(
09:16 slef free? Some airlines have been saying "act of god, no compensation"
09:16 chris yeah
09:16 chris thats what british airlines told her
09:16 slef BA are one of the worst :-(
09:16 nahuel slef, But they fear about a bigger volcano that is not so far...
09:16 slef I flew on them once. 1996 I think.
09:17 nahuel ^^
09:17 nahuel it's crazy !
09:18 slef I think Iceland still has flights.  Volcano is near south coast, blowing south.
09:26 chris is anywhere in train distance from the uk flying?
09:26 slef Spain, Italy, southern Germany
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09:26 slef depends how long you want to spend on a train ;-)
09:27 slef Problem is that all UK cross-channel links are probably maxed out now
09:27 slef We only have one train line to France
09:28 chris ahh
09:29 nahuel And in france we have a strike
09:29 nahuel for 9 days
09:29 slef oh yeah... I knew there was a reason to prefer southern Germany
09:30 slef our connections to Spain and Italy rely on stiking French railways
09:30 chris ahh
09:30 chris ill tell donna that
09:30 slef let me check they really are still flying ;-)
09:31 slef Munich still flying... Frankfurt airport website not answering
09:32 slef looking at for flights to NZ
09:32 nahuel do you know : ?
09:33 chris oh wow, thats neat
09:37 nahuel :)
09:37 slef Quantas still flying to AU out of Frankfurt
09:38 chris ta
09:39 slef Does anywhere else in EU fly to NZ except UK?
09:39 nahuel arf it seems to have a problème "radar virtuel"
09:39 slef nahuel: it's been hashkohadotted
09:39 nahuel ^^
09:42 paul_p chris, hi. did you see our (BibLibre) news ?
09:43 paul_p ( hi slef too ;-) )
09:43 Amit_G hi slef, paul_P
09:44 slef I saw it. The Koha Company-go-round continues. :-(
09:45 chris paul_p: yeah, about nicomo leaving
09:46 chris slef: yep, usually via hong kong or singapore
09:46 slef chris: which non-UK airports this end?
09:48 paul_p slef, this move will not change anything for Koha Community. Well, it may be a good news in fact, because 1- Philippe is a very experienced CEO, and 2- I hope that will let me have some time to get involved again in Koha (that, frankly I did not really a lot for the last 18months  :( )
09:48 chris lufthansa into frankfurt
09:49 chris (they fly via singapore)
09:49 slef chris: cool. Maybe they still fly out.
09:49 chris im trying to remember how russel and i got to paris for kohacon
09:49 chris via bangkok i thnk
09:50 slef paul_p: It worries me a bit because Bull and Everthingy aren't famous for FOSS, if you know what I mean.  Also, why is nicomo leaving completely?  But it would be good to see you around the community more again.
09:52 paul_p nicomo leaves because he want to work as a librarian again. and in France, most librarians (including nicolas) are employed by the govt, and they can't have a job as librarian and a job in a private company !
09:56 slef wow, French govt is very different to ours
09:56 slef two of work for as well as us... one's employer encourages it, the other tolerates it.
09:57 slef I think the big three parties are all talking about moving more people to members after the election, too.
09:58 paul_p slef, my wife, that is a midwife in public hospital (and just working home to educate our 4 chilrdens) thought about working a little for a private hospital. But she can't without an explicit permission ! (or she should resign from the public system). The permission is usually given, but sometimes not...
09:59 paul_p (just working home *those years*)
09:59 paul_p france is different ;-)
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10:00 chris hi kf :)
10:00 chris great news about your presentation
10:00 slef France is UK from the early 1990s. ;-)
10:00 kf hi chris
10:01 chris slef: but with better wine :)
10:01 paul_p chris, lol !
10:01 slef chris: that may explain why they are not developing so fast ;-)
10:01 slef wine - tastes nice but stunts your growth?
10:01 paul_p (can I say "better food" without being suspected to troll ;-) )
10:01 chris :)
10:01 slef paul_p: no :-)
10:02 chris better rugby team at the moment too :)
10:02 slef paul_p: you need to visit real England and Wales.
10:02 kf chris: chris++ #for helping me with koha history
10:02 kf :)
10:02 slef chris: the Lions are a bit of a joke team IMO (but I won't say that near them)
10:02 paul_p slef, probably. My only experience in UK was the conference last year. I agree it's just launching a troll then...
10:02 slef paul_p: London is not high point of UK food
10:03 slef too many people, moving too fast, in a polluted city
10:08 chris ive only been in gatwick and heathrow, and on a bus between them, so i cant have an opinion
10:09 magnus i'm not overly familiar with uk cuisine, but i would like to say i had two superb meals here last year:
10:10 nahuel I prefer french food :)
10:10 nahuel Like "boeuf bourguignon"
10:10 nahuel and "blanquette de veau"
10:12 kf getting hungry here :)
10:12 chris hehe
10:13 nahuel yes !
10:13 nahuel We're going to buy a chicken fries salad :)
10:13 kf im still at the conference, last presentation right now
10:14 chris ahhh
10:14 slef I like French food, but I prefer some English food like pork in mustard, or some good battered fish with potatoes and salad.
10:15 chris ill eat anything :-)
10:16 kf :)
10:17 kf bye all
10:17 chris cya later kf
10:17 kf cya :)
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10:20 nahuel slef, pork in mustard, we have in france :)
10:21 nahuel stop! now i'm hungry
10:21 slef nahuel: wrong mustard ;-)
10:21 nahuel from dijon ?
10:21 nahuel :)
10:21 slef English wholegrain :)
10:21 nahuel héhé
10:21 nahuel ok
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11:09 Amit_G heya nengard
11:16 nengard hiya
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12:03 Nate Good morning #koha!
12:03 paul_p hiya Nate
12:04 paul_p good morning to you !
12:04 Nate hi Paul
12:04 Nate is it morning for you/
12:04 Nate ?
12:05 Nate i think it is your afternoon
12:05 Nate so good afternoon :)
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13:19 chris_n g'morning
13:19 jwagner Morning, all.
13:20 jwagner @wunder 20817
13:20 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 23.9�C (9:23 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
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14:00 nicomo @wunder lyon france
14:00 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 16.2�C (4:00 PM CEST on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
14:01 jdavidb @wunder 20817
14:01 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 25.9�C (10:04 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
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14:02 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
14:02 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (3:50 PM CEST on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
14:03 nicomo 25°C in april, that's nice
14:04 jdavidb It is.  A bit warmer than usual, from what I hear, but it makes waiting for a bus much more pleasant.
14:05 nicomo indeed
14:05 collum @wunder 41011
14:05 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 22.7�C (10:00 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling).
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14:24 rhcl @wunder bangkok, thailand
14:24 munin rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
14:24 rhcl @munin there is no error. munin is stupid.
14:24 munin rhcl: Error: "munin" is not a valid command.
14:24 rhcl @wunder pattaya, thailand
14:24 munin rhcl: The current temperature in Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi), Thailand is 30.0�C (9:00 PM ICT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
14:25 rhcl see, stupid munin. there it is.
14:25 rhcl Chatting with a stupid bot is much more pleasant than chats with my ex- were.
14:26 * jdavidb directs rhcl to Lucy:[…]th=600&height=250
14:29 rhcl rhcl directs rhcl to Geminoid
14:29 rhcl[…]ed-humans-science
14:32 jdavidb ooo...that's *creepy*.
14:34 wizzyrea
14:34 wizzyrea I know koha looks pretty on mobiles already, for the most part, but this is interesting.
14:34 rhcl still, sign me up for two. No, no, make it three. After a bit of acclimation you'd get past the creepy part. The whole issue of anthropomorphizing is really where tech is heading I think.
14:36 rhcl Can't you see a roaming humanoid with a wireless connection to Koha roaming a library offering to help patrons find stuff?
14:36 jdavidb rhcl++  #for his creepy but awesome idea.
14:40 jdavidb you'd need some sort of knowledge engine on the front, to handle simple reference-interview things: "Yes, I'm looking for books about <foo>"  (Algorithmically, that's an easy one:  subject-search <foo>, get call num range, then direct the patron.
14:42 wizzyrea did any of you see the Dr. Who episode called The Library?
14:42 wizzyrea it had those
14:42 wizzyrea seriously
14:43 * wizzyrea assumes gmcharlt did
14:43 wizzyrea (which, btw, was the creepiest thing I've seen in a while. yet still funny.)
14:44 jdavidb heh.
14:45 jdavidb Given some people's love for treating persons-not-like-me badly in this country, they'd be the ones to squeak that they *shouldn't* be too human-appearing.  And they'd still be rude to them, even then.
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15:03 * jdavidb waves at cait  :)
15:04 * cait waves back at jdavidb
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15:16 wizzyrea oh, by creepy I meant the show was creepy, not the robotic library help
15:16 wizzyrea they seemed quite helpful. :P
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15:22 slef wizzyrea: do you mean the Silence in the Library of the David Tennant ones, or some earlier episode?
15:25 wizzyrea Ya, that one
15:25 wizzyrea the tennant one
15:25 wizzyrea the creepiest part being "Donna Noble is not here. Donna Noble has been saved (repeat ad infinitum)"
15:26 * wizzyrea gets creeped out and hides under the covers
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15:38 jwagner I just can't really get into the David Tennant episodes.  I go back a long way with the good Doctor (Tom Baker being my "first" Doctor).  I was happy with the Christopher Eccleston revival, but something about Tennant rubs me the wrong way.
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15:39 wizzyrea oh man I can't get into eccleston. every other thing I've watched with him in it he's been a bad guy, and I can't get over it.
15:40 wizzyrea but I looove tennant. :P
15:40 wizzyrea (he reminds me of a very good friend, so that helps)
15:41 jwagner Diff'rent strokes :-)
15:42 jwagner But you know, Doctor Who just isn't the same any more.  Where are all the cheesy fake aliens/monsters in the rubber suits?  All this CGI business is bad for the imagination :-)
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15:45 wizzyrea ^^ true
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16:09 slef jwagner: we're into Matt Smith now.
16:10 slef There are still quite a lot of rubber monsters... the Ood, the Sontarans,...
16:10 slef Do you get the "making of" shows over there?
16:10 jwagner Haven't seen those yet -- we always lag behind a bit.  Although a friend of mine finds them on the Internet practically as soon as they run.
16:10 jwagner Not sure about the "making of" shows -- I think they may run at odd hours.  I've lost track of the airtimes now.
16:12 slef Technically, I can record them to memory stick from my TV.  Of course, it's almost never legal to distribute them.
16:12 jwagner Yes, there is that little matter :-(
16:12 nengard wizzyrea or owen around?
16:14 wizzyrea I"m here, sup
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16:18 nengard wizzyrea can i email you an image - it's a virtualbox issue - not sure if you're the one that uses it there
16:19 wizzyrea yea, i can take a look
16:19 nengard sending
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17:40 jwagner awfully quiet around here....
17:40 jwagner @quote random
17:40 munin jwagner: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by chris_n at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
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17:41 * chris_n tries to imagine KOHAKONG climbing the World Trade Center with a librarian held firmly in its grasp
17:41 chris_n sorry... Empire State Building
17:41 * chris_n has had too much Java today :-P
17:42 jwagner Thank you, chris_n for that image.  It will haunt me for days.....
18:02 * chris_n did not realize jwagner was a librarian :)
18:05 jwagner I'm not.  But some of my best friends are librarians :-) and I sometimes have a too-vivid imagination.
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18:16 CGI777 hello?
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22:54 brendan @wunder San Fransico
22:54 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
22:54 brendan @wunder San Francisco, CA
22:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in North Mission (Valencia & Market), San Francisco, California is 20.0�C (3:43 PM PDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
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23:35 braedon|home @wunder auckland
23:35 munin braedon|home: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 16.0�C (11:00 AM NZST on April 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).

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