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anyone heard of these guys before? http://oslo.ie/home |
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nope. would they be one of the first irish koha developers? |
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if they send a patch they would be :) |
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:) |
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looks like it's a pretty new site -> http://www.oslo.ie/forum/showt[…].php?1-About-Koha |
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yep |
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brendan |
hi Amit_G |
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hyea brendan |
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Chris: you about? |
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brendan |
hi Jo |
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hi Brendan |
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heya Jo |
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Hey Amit |
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Jo - congrats on the mover and shakers 2010 |
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Jo++ |
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oh thank you Brendan :) |
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@karma |
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brendan: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (119), "chris" (118), and "owen" (92). Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (brendan) are ranked 20 out of 761. |
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chris++ |
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@karma |
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brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92). Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (brendan) are ranked 20 out of 761. |
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nice I like ties at the top |
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@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 19.1�C (1:16 AM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). |
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hiya chris_n |
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brendan |
how goes the battle |
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I'm just about overcome with sleep :) |
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DBIC whipped up on me good today |
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considered throwing it out altogether, but finally go the best of it |
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heya chris_n |
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heya nicomo |
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HI Amit_G |
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hello #koha |
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@wunder Delhi |
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Amit_G: Error: No such location could be found. |
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@wunder New Delhi |
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Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (11:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 24.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1008 hPa. |
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Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 27.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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heya kf |
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hi Amit_G |
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hdl_laptop |
hi all |
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hi hdl_laptop |
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hi kf |
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hdl_laptop |
Welcom to the magic world.... |
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hdl_laptop |
I really would have liked to be able to explain what you did right to get your results, but I am not on your compter :P |
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g'day #koha |
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hdl_laptop: my index problem? |
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hdl_laptop: im not sure it made the difference, but I added my indexed to getIndexes() in Search pm too |
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hi magnus |
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hi hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
kf oh.... bloody hell. We should get that from files or make that come into database. |
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hdl_laptop: yes, thats what I thoght when I found it |
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hdl_laptop: did a grep on Control-number when I got really frustrated :) |
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miguel |
hi all |
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hi miguel |
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miguel |
I was talking to Chirs, on the grounds of Perl template toolkit integration |
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he told me that was not planned to include multilanguage in this development |
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I think we could use it to avoid having to maintain different templates. |
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do you think about? |
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hi magnus hi miguel |
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hi hdl_laptop |
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:) Hi, #koha. |
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waves to owen |
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owen |
Hi everyone |
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jwagner |
G'morning, all |
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schuster |
Howdy all! |
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jdavidb |
hi, schuster! :) |
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schuster |
wizzyrea you hear or is that a phantom? |
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schuster |
I just read this from the Ireland website and had to chuckle - Northeast Kansas Library System has 116 branches and over 2 million records. |
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schuster |
Not sure there are that many libraries in Kansas.... ;) |
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schuster, are you trying to pick a fight this early in the morning :-) |
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schuster |
I have 67 libraries so I'm big, but I do know that "The bigger you are the harder you fall" and being short I can attest to that! |
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has the bruises to prove it, too.... |
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schuster |
Busy week next week we have TLA(Texas Library Association Conference) probably 8,000 crazy librarians in San Antonio along the river walk all drinking lemonade ;) |
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jdavidb |
Dunno where they got those numbers; both are inflated about sixfold over what I know about. |
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doesn't believe the part about all drinking lemonade |
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schuster |
Presenting on a panel discussion with the NTRL(North Texas Regional Library System Evergreen Consortium) |
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schuster |
shhhh don't tell my boss we do something else ;) |
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jdavidb |
8,000 crazy librarians--is the "crazy" part mostly because *most* of the ones that go to TLA are K-12 folks, schuster? |
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remembers when Plano was in the sticks, and the only reason to go there was to buy beer, because Richardson was dry. |
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schuster |
Hey - who said librarians can't let their hair down? |
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jwagner |
There's a reason I don't go to ALA.... |
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schuster |
collum - You should see Frisco! I live there and we hit 100,000 people can't wait to see what the census does this year. |
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jdavidb |
All ten of us who showed up at the Automation & Technology Roundtable meeting used to giggle about that... |
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schuster |
jwagner what no lemonade? |
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collum |
Wow! That's where we went to the sticks to see the Drive-in movie. |
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schuster, let's just say I've been to enough library conferences to SERIOUSLY doubt the lemonade story. |
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schuster |
We moved there 12 years ago with about 20,000 people and dirt roads... We've grown quite fast. Now Prosper and Celina are the places to move... We'll be OK before you know it. |
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collum |
Don't you need a passport to cross the Red River? |
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schuster |
jwagner HA!!!... I'll be at ALA in DC! My whole family is coming... |
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schuster |
Won't be long and we will annex OK. |
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schuster |
Since half of Dallas is from OK anyway... |
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jwagner |
schuster, we'll have to get together then. Maybe for some lemonade :-) |
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schuster: When I was in high school, our football team (2A) played Southlake-Carroll for bi-district... Two years ago, my daughter's high school football team (5A) beat Southlake-Carroll in regional playoffs.. |
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schuster |
Still working out what I'm doing there but if you can get in that would be great, my wife would love to share lemonade. |
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schuster |
I keep wondering where all these people are working... But I'm happy to have a job - I noticed about 5 houses in my neighborhood that are in foreclosure. |
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schuster |
collum where do you reside currently? |
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schuster |
I'm working with KUDOS to arrange a meeting for KUDOS and it was suggested that maybe the different companies would want to have a meeting right after with some clients? Do you know if PTFS has arranged and "official" meetings with clients at ALA? |
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schuster, don't know about a client meeting but if that's what LL used to do, then probably. You could check with Patrick on that. |
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collum |
schuster: I moved to Northern KY from Houston about 7 years ago. |
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schuster |
collum - wow that would be quite the culture shock... But I hear it is quite pretty there. |
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schuster |
jwagner - thanks will do. |
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collum |
It's gorgeous and I don't miss the commute at all. |
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schuster |
or the humidity or allergies probably! |
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schuster |
They were saying on the radio this morning that the pollin count is over 5000 when normally 90 is high. |
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collum |
I do have my allergies. I don't miss the heat, humidity, roaches, and scorpions. We do have more spiders here than I have ever seen. |
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collum |
And I actually saw more than 9 inches of snow for the first time in my life. But Dallas seemed to have more than that this year. |
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schuster |
I think I heard we had a total of 12 inches which is the second highest in history - not all at the same time though. I think it topped out at about 8 at one time, granted it was all gone the next day... |
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I've lived in the DC area (off and on) for a good many years, and this winter was the most snow I can remember getting here. It wasn't as much as an Indiana winter, but it was certainly impressive for this area. |
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schuster |
In reading the page that was linked from Ireland I found this OPAC enhancement page - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]_koha_opac_issues |
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schuster |
I think some of it has been done, but I don't know any of the people noted on the page...??? |
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owen |
Until yesterday the last edit of that page was 2006-05-10 |
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hilongo |
Hello #koha! :) |
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schuster: Since Koha 3 was released in summer 2008 I think that wiki page needs some revision |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: around ? |
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hi hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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I am working on batchMod.pl. I have some background stuff going wrong and can't find what to set in order to fix that. |
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hdl_laptop |
any hint ? |
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hdl_laptop |
The problem is that the latest record is not processed. |
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hdl_laptop |
All records are BUT the latestone. |
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hdl_laptop |
I have seen many patches those days cool |
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hdl_laptop |
good. |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: will columns.def be integrated into po file ? |
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hdl_laptop: I'll give it a try over the weekend and see if I can figure something out |
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or will it be changed into a yaml file so that prefs and columns.def could be in the same data structure ? |
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what's all this about Ireland? feels like i'm missing something... |
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kf |
have a nice weekend #koha |
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Hi guys I was wondering if its koha support barcode scanner in such a way that I scan a books barcodes and koha fetches all info about the book from the library of congress and the book can be added to the library database. can koha do this on the fly? |
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owen |
bigbrovar: a barcode scanner is basically just a keyboard. It's an input device that sends characters to the computer |
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owen |
If you want Koha to do something for you, you have to write that into Koha |
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owen |
It would be interesting to set up a form where you could scan a book's UPC symbol and do an instant z39.50 search |
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owen |
You could even configure it to automatically pull the best match from a prioritized list of z39.50 sources |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jdavidb |
hi, cait! :) |
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cait |
:) |
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schuster |
owen - upc - most often now that is the 13 digit ISBN but if the Z server system doesn't do the automatic 10 to 13 conversion you don't get the recod. |
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schuster |
Prior to the work Plano ISD had done you had to search BOTH 10 and 13 in Koha to see if you had it. Galen waved his magic wand so now when you search in Koha at least it does the conversion. |
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gmcharlt |
reminds me, I need to push my own patch to do that |
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schuster |
I don't know what happens if you did a Z39.50 search against koha... hmmmm May try that in the near future in my spare time. |
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owen |
Would that be a problem? If you're trying to grab a record based on the UPC you want to get a truly matching record. If a search didn't find anything based on the 13-digit isbn it wouldn't really match? |
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schuster |
There are 10 and 13 digit equivalents. The difference on the 13 is 978 at the beginning and the check digit 13th is different than the 10th digit on the 10 digit ISBN. |
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schuster |
ie 978123456789? and 123456789? - actually are the same ISBN the only difference is the last digit. |
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schuster |
? being the check digit. |
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schuster |
I believe that South Central was having some coding done to have Koha verify the check digit to make sure you have a "valid" isbn. |
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owen |
But if my copy of a book as a 13 digit UPC and your copy has the 10 digit UPC don't we have different versions of the book? |
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owen: Not according to the isbn agency all 10 digit isbns have a 13 digit representation |
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owen |
I understand that |
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owen |
But if my book was *printed* with a 13-digit isbn, doesn't it differ from a book *printed* with a 10 digit one? New edition? |
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owen |
I'm just questioning whether one could assume it was an exact match |
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Colin |
A lot of books have the isbn added on a sticker it isn't at the edition level they differ but copy level |
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owen |
Okay, I just wanted to make sure I had it straight. Important to have one's facts straight when arguing about the functionality of a hypothetical future enhancement :) |
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collum |
A new ISBN is required for a revised edition. But I'm not sure if it is for reprints. |
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Colin |
publishers practice differs (surprise!) Some of the big paperback publishers used to change isbns if they changed the cover |
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Colin |
I've seen others who think the same isbn is ok even if the change text, author and title!! |
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owen |
I can hear the irate patron now: "I wanted the one with the chick riding a dragon, not the one with the dude holding a sword!" |
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Colin |
its ok sir we've rebound them all in plain grey |
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jwagner |
Colin, not a brown paper wrapper? |
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gmcharlt |
and some (mostly small) publishers reused ISBNs |
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gmcharlt |
flaming death is too good for such incorrigibles |
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wizzyrea |
hm, that was weird |
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wizzyrea |
ok, nm, just a fluke I guess |
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wizzyrea |
...has that "forgive fines on return" always been there or is that new? |
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wizzyrea |
b/c I like! |
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owen |
On returns.pl? It's been there a while I think |
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wizzyrea |
on circulation.pl |
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wizzyrea |
actually |
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wizzyrea |
down by the renewal due date |
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wizzyrea |
why, oh why, can't there be a grooveshark iphone app. |
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wizzyrea |
I just found all this music I like, but can't buy it yet and I want to listen to it in the car but I can't. Wah. |
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jcamins |
Greetings, #koha |
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jcamins |
I'm sure this is a really easy question, but I am stumped: if you have made three changes to your local branch, and want to submit patches for the first two (since they're bug fixes), how do you do that? |
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wizzyrea |
good day :) |
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wizzyrea |
first: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
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wizzyrea |
if that doesn't help I'm probably not the one to ask. ;) |
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Colin |
jcamins: are you wanting to do a format-patch? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but only for the first two of three commits. |
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rhcl_away |
Hey, check this out. You can see my shirt and hands... |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I read that several times (it took me a while to understand it), but it seems to assume that everything you do is share-worthy |
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rhcl_away |
canx previous |
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Colin |
jcamins: you can specify a range of revisions format-patch revision1..revision2 |
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jcamins |
And I would use the alphanumeric SHA1 ID for that revision1/revision2 |
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jcamins |
Ah, yeah, that did it. |
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jcamins |
Thank you! |
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jcamins |
I was missing the two dots in between. |
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Colin |
they crop up in lots of handy git commands |
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fredericd |
Does someone use Koha label creator? |
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fredericd |
I can't split call numbers |
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chris_n |
fredericd: what version of Koha? |
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chris_n |
HEAD from a few weeks ago works ok here |
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fredericd |
chris_n: thanks. Yes, it works indeed. I just send a patch to handle properly UNIMARC item callnumber, like for MARC21 |
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chris_n |
ahh... neat |
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chris_n |
nice catch on the misspelling of 'Labels' btw |
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fredericd |
chris_n: I like label creator module a LOT |
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wizzyrea |
it is really awesome. :) |
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wizzyrea |
much better than the old way, for sure |
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hopes it gets a lot more use so we can make further improvements and features |
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fredericd |
chris_n: A good user oriented documentation would help to spread its use. Or a webcast on koha-community.org :) |
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chris_n |
nengard has done an excellent job of documenting the module |
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chris_n |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x4155 |
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fredericd |
I agree |
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thinks if he stood in front of a camera it might discourage people from using the module ;) |
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wizzyrea |
pft |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: still around ? |
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fredericd |
more and less |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: have you read my question about columns.def ? |
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fredericd |
No. Here? |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: yes here. |
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hdl_laptop |
I asked you what you intended to do with columns.dev |
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hdl_laptop |
I asked you what you intended to do with columns.def |
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hdl_laptop |
Since at the moment it doesnot com into po file |
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hdl_laptop |
And i wondered whether we should stick to columns.def or chage that to YAML file. which could be translated the same way as pref files. |
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fredericd |
good question |
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fredericd |
it's doable but maybe not wishable |
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fredericd |
it would be a 3rd category of file to parse, install, etc. |
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wizzyrea |
how fun would it be to have an about page like this for the IRC regulars :) i4blnm5Yfolr |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.linuxmint.com/about.php |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
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fredericd |
i prefer :) |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: but then which structure for column.deg |
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hdl_laptop |
f |
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hdl_laptop |
could be like something we could use as a schema for an ORM |
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hdl_laptop |
But maybe it would be too much |
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brendan |
morning #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hey brendan |
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fredericd |
If it's for 3.4, it has to be coordinated with database abstration goal |
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fredericd |
which rely on a persistent execution environment? |
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cait |
gmcharlt: around? |
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gmcharlt |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi :) |
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cait |
Im working on linking records by $w, I have a patch for the index and wanted to start work on xslt now. I saw 2 patches were send today that will change those files and fields. |
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cait |
is it better do include those changes first in my files? |
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gmcharlt |
you could apply those patches yourself and sign off on them, then resend them along with your own patches |
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gmcharlt |
otherwise, just make your changes and we'll see if there's actually a merge conflict |
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cait |
ok, is there a howto somewhere? |
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gmcharlt |
there are some hints at git am |
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gmcharlt |
rather, at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]pment:git_usage&s[]=git&s[]=apply#applying_patches |
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cait |
i think those patches are a good starting point for me, just was not sure how it could work out with git |
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cait |
hm .mbox file... ok, I will eat something and figure that out later |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (11:50 AM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
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* chris |
pops in a for a sec while the kids are eating |
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brendan |
hi chris |
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brendan |
does New Zealand have any kind of daylight savings? |
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chris |
yep |
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chris_n |
based on cfouts announcement, it seems this would be a prime time for PTFS to turn koha.org back over to the community |
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chris |
it finished last weekend |
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* chris_n |
does *not* hold his breath |
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SJeffery |
We are having someone do a batch export of 30,000 records with the intention of loading them into Koha. Other than telling them that is needs to be in MARC21 format, is there anything additional format wise we should specify? |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: will you want to load items along with the bibs? |
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SJeffery |
Ouch, had not thought about that. |
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schuster |
What system are the "exporting" them out of? You may have to "adjust" some of the item data to put them in the right tags before you load them. |
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SJeffery |
The current idea is that our vendor for a program called STAR Libraries will do the export, and then have PTFS do the import, but I want to make sure the first vendor does what we need. |
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SJeffery |
I just checked our original quote and that is unclear whether it includes the item records. |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: well, the first step is ensuring that one way or another that the extract from STAR includes as much item information as possible, either embedded in a MARC tag or a via a separate text of that can link back to the bibs via a reliable record control number |
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SJeffery |
The app we have now does not store anything in MARC format, so there is a conversion involved. I just want to make sure that the file they give us can be put straight into Koha. |
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gmcharlt |
that would mean embeding the items in 952s according to Koha's default MARC21 frameworks |
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SJeffery |
Embedding what in the 952's? |
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gmcharlt |
though that potentially touches on how much work the vendor doing the extract does vs how much the vendor doing the record import does, which I can't speak two |
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gmcharlt |
embedding item information - i.e., location, call number, barcode, etc. |
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SJeffery |
Is there a standard way to embed that info (such as subfields for barcodes)? Or does it all get sorted somehow on import? |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: the formatting is currently awful, but defaults can be found at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=a9489 |
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SJeffery |
Oh my god |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, that' table is kind of broken at the moment |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: this is a bit better http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ion_for_vendors&s[]=embedded |
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SJeffery |
Ok, a tad better |
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SJeffery |
The migraine that was coming on disappeared |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: thanks to wizzyrea, there's now http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ed-holdings-data/ |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
refresh, it's even a bit better now |
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gmcharlt |
and again |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
*blush* ty ;) |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ :) |
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wizzyrea |
oh stop lol |
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wizzyrea |
...but I did just fix the link on the index of the page to not point to the broken one >.> |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea++ # you're not making a very convincing argument for stopping, you know |
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SJeffery |
ok, great. I will pass that along to the vendor. Are those subfields part of MARC21? |
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gmcharlt |
not in the sense that they're standard MARC21 - no 9xx tag - but it will be consistent for Koha 3.0 and 3.2 installations |
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wizzyrea |
ok, there we go |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's a passable replacement for the broken table |
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chris |
wizzyrea++ |
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chris |
koha-community.org++ |
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chris |
everyone seen http://koha-community.org/new-[…]ha-community-org/ |
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wizzyrea |
"Yummy, like ircing on a cake! " cute |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I was wondering what people thought of that nifty bugzilla search page I did |
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chris |
i like it |
| 20:48 |
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wizzyrea |
hm, I should probably re-do that all open bugs query to not show enhancements |
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chris |
my sister is in washington dc today |
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wizzyrea |
!! cool :) |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
what for? |
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chris |
some medical conerence thing |
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chris |
shes a medical researcher, in public health, focussing mostly on the difference in outcomes |
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chris |
shes off to another one in london in a couple of days |
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wizzyrea |
Ooh |
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chris |
basically the govt hates her hehe |
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chris |
cos she points out things like maori are 3 times less likely to have breast cancer diagnosed, and once diagnoses 6 times less likely to receive effective treatment |
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chris |
shes there until tomorrow night us time |
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wizzyrea |
ouch |
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chris |
apparently its the cherry blossom festival? |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
oh right, because the cherry trees are blooming right now |
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wizzyrea |
we have some beautiful dogwood trees in lawrence right now |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
and the redbuds are blooming |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
<3 springtime |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
brr-ish |
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chris |
getting cold here |
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chris |
autumn |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 23.2�C (3:56 PM CDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
better than our -7 of only a few weeks back |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea++ |
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chris |
yeah, single digits is cold for us |
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wizzyrea |
wow I am racking it up today |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
thanks guys :) |
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chris_n |
@karma wizzyrea |
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munin |
chris_n: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 80 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 80. |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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* chris_n |
chants, "Go! Go!" :) |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 21.0�C (4:42 PM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
you know what |
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chris |
what? |
| 20:59 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, never mind |
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wizzyrea |
I think my thoughts would be unpopular, or at least heated discussion worthy |
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wizzyrea |
and I don't feel like fighting today :) |
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chris |
hehe |
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chris |
you cant do that |
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wizzyrea |
well I'm looking at the support page |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
and I want to take the stuff on the free support page and put it top level, just under pay for support |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
no reason to have to click through to free support |
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chris |
works for me |
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chris |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
unless you're a vendor running the site >.> |
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chris |
yeah well, that doesnt happen anymore |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
i thought you were gonna ask someone to ask ptfs what they want to do with their 2 listings |
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chris |
seeings they are the same company now |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: sounds perfectly fine to me |
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chris |
i dont think that anyone could think having the free stuff at the top could be a bad idea |
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chris |
actually i think it would be a good yardstick if they did :-) |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/support/ |
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wizzyrea |
oh sec lemme clear the cache |
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chris |
switch them round? |
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wizzyrea |
done |
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chris |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
ah that makes my sense of harmony feel happier |
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wizzyrea |
oh speaking of harmony, has anybody looked at the 3.0 beta of wordpress? I have... it looks hawt. |
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chris |
yep |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (2:00 PM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
I'm super excited about it, love the new default theme |
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indradg_ |
@wunder kolkata |
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indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0�C (2:20 AM IST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
ok time to take the kids out before they destroy the house |
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chris |
have good weekends all |
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wizzyrea |
hehe! |
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wizzyrea |
later chris |
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cait |
good night all |
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wizzyrea |
@karma |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92). Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 761. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh tied for 1st gmcharlt ;) |
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wizzyrea: nice change to support |
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