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Nouman |
Good morning all |
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Nouman |
I have asked Question about Examination project which will store marks, Generate Mark sheets,Transcripts, Degrees of University |
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Nouman |
assign grades,percentage and GPA |
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Any body have any idea about this project |
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is nay one know about the examination project |
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Good morning |
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@later tell gmcharlt I have the marc data ready - just tell me where to send it. 11.000 records / about 5 mb |
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chris: ah, works now :) |
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hi guys, pls where can i get Authority records to upload on my koha, |
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pls an anyone help me on this |
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CGI647: I dont know if there is a free source for authority data. Perhaps someone else knows. |
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if that is the case. is there a way i can activate the Personal name field for input direct from keyboard, rather than searching from the Aurhority record? |
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yes, look at sys prefs for authorities. I think nicole answered this question on the mailinglists too. |
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http://koha-community.org/docu[…]al/?ch=c19#AEN218 |
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kmkale |
Hi all |
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kmkale |
Has anyone setup a server with multiple independent koha installations on it? complete with zebra? |
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jdavidb |
kmkale: Sure; it's not hard. |
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kmkale |
i am pretty ok with rest of the setup except zebra |
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kmkale |
independent db and httpd-conf etc |
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jdavidb |
kmkale: did you do dev installs? |
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kmkale |
but what about zebra? can one zebra daemon support multiple db's? |
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jdavidb |
if you do dev installs, you just run each zebra in its' own user space. Works fine. |
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kmkale |
i havent started yet. want to try today so gathering info |
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jdavidb |
Each one thinks it's the only one on the system, and there's nothing to contradict that, since they're not running privileged. |
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kmkale |
"each zebra in its own user space." how to set that up? some hints please? |
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jdavidb |
For each install, create a separate user account, home dir, database, etc... install Koha using the "dev" install method in each. Run zebra (using koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start) as each user. Celebrate success. |
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kmkale |
wow!! cant be that simple surely? Will try and report SIR!! |
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jdavidb |
I've got nearly a dozen of 'em on one server. One instance of mysql, one apache instance, and a whole herd of zebras. |
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jdavidb |
It really is that easy. |
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kmkale |
thats what I want precisely.. |
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kmkale |
Thanks.. |
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jdavidb |
use NameVirtualHost tricks so you don't even need multiple IP addresses; you can also eliminate using port 8080 that way--everything on 80. |
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jdavidb |
Glad I could help. :D |
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kmkale |
yes, thought of that |
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kmkale |
How do I start all zebras automatically? |
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jdavidb |
I do it the brute-force way...in each account's crontab, I put this line: |
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jdavidb |
*/5 * * * * $HOME/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start >/dev/null 2>&1 |
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kmkale |
a central script from rc.local or init.d? which sudo's to each user and runs the zebra? |
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kmkale |
aahhh!! |
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jdavidb |
So every five minutes, it tries to start zebra. If it's already running, nothing happens. If not, it starts. |
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jdavidb |
So on reboot, you'll be back up and happy in five minutes or less. |
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kmkale |
:) |
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kmkale |
whare do you put zebras db dir and sockets? |
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* jdavidb |
likes simple solutions, truly. |
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jdavidb |
If you do a dev install, all of that will end up under the users $HOME/koha-dev/var/lib, automagically. |
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kmkale |
great!! |
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jdavidb |
That's the beauty of the dev install; if you have all the packages installed, you don't have to be a superuser for *most* of the setup work, other than restarting apache and setting up a DB. |
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jdavidb |
The other beauty, if you use git clone to fetch your code, is that updating it is *super* easy--git pull, then run installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl. |
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kmkale |
thats for each user though.. |
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jdavidb |
Right. Typical use-case is two installs: production, and test. Do it on test, let the users check it out, then a few nights later, do it on live. Takes effect immediately when you do it on any given install. |
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jdavidb |
(also, obviously, each is independent, so you can do test without hurting production.) |
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kmkale |
and applying patches is super easy as gmcharlt showed me the other day ;) |
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jdavidb |
It gets a little tiring once you have a couple dozen of them, natch. :) But not many folks have that problem. |
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kmkale |
I may but its for a cause. PLanning to give libraries under granthalaya.org which dont have any IT infra a live server from which to use koha |
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jdavidb |
Awesome! keep 'em simple, not a lot of customization outside of what you can do with sysprefs and CSS; that'll make you life much, much easier. Stock Koha installs are easy-peasy to update that way. |
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kmkale |
hope I can finangle one more server from the supporters of the project, else the present one is quite strong |
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kmkale |
yes. mostly public libraries requirements are pretty simple |
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kmkale |
we are trying to get a group together here which will try to integrate koha member accounting and other library general accounting with a FOSS project called gnukhata.org |
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kmkale |
that is one of the requirements of all public libraries, to have integrated accounting |
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kmkale |
hope that works out |
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jdavidb |
That'd be clever; that's always been a big missing spot for a lot of libraries...their general accounting just treats the patron accounting as a summary line-item, and that's not detailed enough to be useful, sometimes. |
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kmkale |
had a meeting with gnukhata dev ppl, they are also very interested |
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kmkale |
gnukhata is pythin xml-rpc |
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kmkale |
so they say its pretty easy to integrate with most front ends |
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jdavidb |
I should think so, yeah. |
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kmkale |
*python |
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kmkale |
also public libraries have a lot of reporting to various Govt bodies and trusts etc |
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kmkale |
so accounting is important to them |
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jdavidb |
Sure. In the US, they've kinda skipped over the accounting part of that by summarizing ("We collected $x in fines last year"..) but the capability of more detail accounting would be nice. ($x in overdus, $y in new-member fees, $z in lost-book charges...) |
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kmkale |
oh. if only it was like that here in India. These ppl spend equal time in accounting as on catalouge stuff |
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jdavidb |
heh. We've had libraries here who realize they spend almost as much collecting fines as they get from the fines, and have stopped charging overdue fines altogether. |
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kmkale |
haha |
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jdavidb |
There's also a need for better accounting, if you set up deposit accounts, like some universities do for ILL fees. Got to account for that money somewhere. |
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chris_n |
morning |
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jdavidb |
sounds like you have an admirable set of projects going on, kmkale. Good luck! :) |
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jdavidb |
mornin', chris_n |
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kmkale |
humm yes and in public libraries there are minthly fees too |
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kmkale |
*monthly |
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kmkale |
Thanks jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
There's an NGO here in the US that takes donated books and money, and sets up small-town libraries in sub-Saharan Africa and Central America; I've thought a couple of times about talking to them about IT needs generally, as I think that's a *fantastic* bit of philanthropy. |
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kmkale |
aye, true |
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jdavidb |
So very many of the world's issues are solve-able, with just a little bit of education, and libraries--even little bitty ones--can be a huge part of that. |
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kmkale |
this project granthalaya.org I am working on is funded by an educational institute, purely to get libraries here to come out from card base age to computers |
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kmkale |
we even scavenge for old pc's to give to some libraries which dont have any |
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kmkale |
and try to get them strated on koha |
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kmkale |
thats why this idea of lots of koha's on a central server |
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kmkale |
so libraries can just use a pc and dsl connection |
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jdavidb |
is getting internet access for those small libraries difficult? |
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kmkale |
nope |
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kmkale |
telecom here is fantastic |
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kmkale |
even small villages have broadband |
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jdavidb |
excellent! |
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kmkale |
its got revolutionized in last few years after privatization |
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kmkale |
but funnily its the govt company BSNL which does the greatest job of providing broadband in smallest of villages |
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jwagner |
Can someone confirm a possible bug? Current head, OPAC advanced search, the Language search section shows up under the "fewer" options. If you click "more" options, the Language section shows up again -- it's repeated. It looks like it should be removed from the "fewer" options. |
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ebegin |
good morning! |
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jwagner |
Bonjour |
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ebegin |
:) |
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chris_n |
heya owen |
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kmkale |
koha is the most helpful & tolerant mailing list |
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kmkale |
I have been on |
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owen |
Good morning fellow North American chris_n |
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ebegin |
Hi owen! |
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chris_n |
hmm... "Effectively, Solaris is no longer free for more than 90 days. ...With this latest move, Oracle has well and truly hammered the final nail into the coffin for Solaris. What next MySQL?" |
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chris_n |
http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7749/1.html |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin` |
jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 13.1�C (9:03 AM EDT on April 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Rising). |
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owen |
This looks nice (assuming you're working with a fixed locale): http://digitalbush.com/project[…]ked-input-plugin/ |
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jwagner |
owen, could be useful for the patron edit screen & the OPAC patron account update. |
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owen |
You never can tell in what format someone is going to enter a phone number |
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ebegin |
especially that phone number in France looks like 99.33.22.11 |
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ebegin |
biblibre phone number on their website: 04 91 81 35 08 |
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jwagner |
And for business phones, don't forget to allow for extension numbers. |
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collum |
And some US locations have to use 10 digits, some 7, some can use either. |
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jwagner |
The possibilities are endless :-) |
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collum |
Yep. In our database we have these characters separating numbers ()-:.# and space. |
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owen |
I could see stripping all spacing and punctuation from phone numbers and managing it all on output |
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owen |
Except someone is going to want to put in "555-2392 dont call during lunch" |
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* jdavidb |
enters his phone number as either 867-5309 or BR-549 on testing systems... |
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wizzyrea |
owen: I have a jquery... um... query for you |
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owen |
Shoot |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/MmE4MjM2 i'm trying to remove the No Holds Allowed text (it's redundant and inaccurate in our install sometimes) |
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wizzyrea |
but there are no tags around it to select, except for td |
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jdavidb |
@quote add <wizzyrea>owen: I have a jquery... um... query for you |
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munin` |
jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #70 added. |
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jdavidb |
lol |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Quote #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each other's brains... we git pull them." (added by gmcharlt at 03:40 PM, August 14, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
hey, that was a good one |
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jdavidb |
yes, it was. |
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* owen |
ponders |
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owen |
Sorry wizzyrea I got nothin' |
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wizzyrea |
okies |
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owen |
Normally I'd say use ":contains", but this isn't wrapped in a tag |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff[…]alarm-clock.shtml |
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owen |
The example we have in effect: |
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wizzyrea |
dk if any of you are lost fans |
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owen |
$("a:contains('Holds to pull')").parent().remove(); |
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wizzyrea |
right, I've done lots of those |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you could prepend a tag, then append a tag, then remove what's between the tags |
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wizzyrea |
but that seems overly manipulative |
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wizzyrea |
but you still can't get down to just the text |
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wizzyrea |
or at least I'm not smrt enough to |
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wizzyrea |
bah, guess it will have to stay |
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thanks for applying a few brain cycles to it though, owen |
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Vlad |
Hi there |
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Vlad |
I lunched koha on VM |
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owen |
Vlad: do you have a question? |
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Vlad |
after that I add a new record in catalog, add new item on shelf, but in search this item not found. |
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Vlad |
I try to make ./rebuild_zebra -b -a -z |
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Vlad |
and obtained this error: |
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Vlad |
Use of uninitialized value $db_driver in concatenation (.) or string at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 666. |
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Vlad |
Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 666 |
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Vlad |
I read this archive http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2010-02-24, but not understand how this error was fix |
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Vlad |
Anybody who fix this error? |
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chris_n |
Vlad: something went wrong during the 'make install' or perhaps it has not been run |
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chris_n |
the __VAR__ variables should be replaced during the install process |
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ccurry |
Good morning, all; question about cleanup_database.pl: |
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ccurry |
Is it a problem to run this script while users are logged in and working, as long as I don't use the "--sessions" option? |
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ccurry |
cleanup_database.pl --zebraqueue 10 |
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ccurry |
and does 10 mean that it will retain 10 days of old zebraqueue data? |
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ccurry |
I have a huge zebraqueue table that is refusing to load into my test server. I tried running this script in the past (on my test server) and I got no output and it seemed to hang, so I canceled the process. I guess now is the time to sort this out. Any problem with just truncating the zebraqueue table and reindexing to catch any edits that didn't get indexed? |
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Hi all |
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ccurry |
or is there a verbose option? |
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jdavidb |
ccurry: I'm the author of that script. yes, the zebraqueue option keeps (x) days worth. (the most-recent). |
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jdavidb |
There isn't a verbose option. |
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Vlad |
cris_n: on Virtual Machine image was preinstalled, and I just lunched it. What you can sugest for this situation? |
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ccurry |
jdavidb: any problem running it while users are logged in and working? |
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jdavidb |
you might select for done=0 in zebraqueue to see if there are things that didn't get indexed; if it doesn't return any records, then you shouldn't even need to reindex, and truncating will be just fine. |
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jdavidb |
nope, as long as you omit --sessions, as you noted. |
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ccurry |
so, does your script just select for that done=0 and truncate everything else? |
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ccurry |
*select for done=0 |
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jdavidb |
no, it selects on the "time" field--the timestamp of when it was added. |
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ccurry |
ah...makes sense |
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mib_2mut7u |
Our overdue notices are not going out because many of our borrowers have an empty "email" field. What is the difference between borrowers.email and borrowers.emailpro? |
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jdavidb |
it does DELETE from zebraqueue WHERE blahblah.. TRUNCATE is absolute; it just tosses the contents of the table in the garbage. |
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ccurry |
It was probably dragging because the table is so large. I think I'll truncate to start set up a cron (like I should have done in the beginning) |
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ccurry |
Thanks for your help! |
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jdavidb |
you betcha. :) |
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owen |
mib_2mut7u: the difference is that borrowers.email is used to send emails, borrowers.emailpro is used only for display (as far as I know) |
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mib_2mut7u |
owen: display where? |
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owen |
Display in the staff client. For informational purposes only. |
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mib_2mut7u |
owen: some of our records have different (but seemingly valid) values for email and emailpro do you have any idea how that could happen? |
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owen |
My first guess is that someone entered them when adding the patron? |
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mib_2mut7u |
so the koha "add a patron" screen would update the borrowers.email field? |
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owen |
filling in the "Email (home)" field updates borrowers.email. filling in "Email (work)" updates borrowers.emailpro |
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mib_2mut7u |
ah ha! Thank you very much! |
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Vlad |
Some suggestions for my problem? |
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Vlad |
mdea... |
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mib_2mut7u |
I've got another question about the borrower table. |
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mib_2mut7u |
I've found a patron in the borrower table who I can't find by searching by patron name or barcode. Is there some field that hides patrons from circulation? |
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mib_2mut7u |
I notice the unfindable patron has borrower.privacy=1, borrower.debarred=0, borrower.lost=0, borrower.dateexpiry="2010-07-32" |
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mib_2mut7u |
Nevermind. The unfindable patron was findable when I looked in the right branch. |
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wizzyrea |
oh snap! |
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chris_n |
does anyone know of any FOSS alternatives to Go-To Meeting that provide the same features? |
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brendan |
you look at dimdim ? |
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chris_n |
Vlad: Unfortunately I am not familiar with the VM images; my suggestion would be to 'make && make install' again, but that might not work on the VM images |
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brendan |
I think dimdim may have a "community-version" |
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chris_n |
brendan: I'll have a look, tnx |
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Vlad |
thanx chris_n |
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jdavidb |
Hi, cait...welcome back, owen. :) |
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DarrellUlm |
Hello |
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cait |
hi jdavidb |
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DarrellUlm |
Zebra 3.2 re-index issue from yesterday was due to large (production) marc data, and it worked fine with 5,000 record test data everytime, so looking for records (or code?) that cause problems during rebuild_index |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't heard anybody complain about large reindexes |
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wizzyrea |
so I'd guess you may have a borked marc record somewhere. |
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DarrellUlm |
Yes, probably |
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DarrellUlm |
I suspected we had a few bad ones here so we should not do a full re-index until I can do a verify on all the marc |
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DarrellUlm |
Hey, didn't Liblime just release a marc tool? |
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wizzyrea |
link? |
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DarrellUlm |
liblime.com |
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DarrellUlm |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
har de har |
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owen |
http://www.liblime.com/news/pt[…]etadata-converter |
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DarrellUlm |
Yeah, there is a link on the site in the annoucements sect. |
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jdavidb |
owen++ # beat me to it. |
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wizzyrea |
Ah, a brand new, PTFS branded something on the LL site. Nice! |
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DarrellUlm |
Because he rules |
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wizzyrea |
^^ what he said |
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jdavidb |
He *does*, DarrellUlm. |
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DarrellUlm |
Have the PTFS people been active in the community since the buyout? |
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wizzyrea |
jdavidb is here >.> |
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owen |
PTFS people were active before the buyout! |
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jdavidb |
jwagner is sorta here, too (in a meeting) |
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wizzyrea |
haveta say, life in LL land has gotten a lot more pleasant of late |
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owen |
It will be interesting to see if any LibLime people start becoming active in the community |
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jdavidb |
I'm trying to coax cfouts back out into the world, but he's busier than a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest just now. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ what he said |
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jdavidb |
His lovely bride is due any day; from the picks, it looks like she's going to give birth to the Green Bay Packers or something. |
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owen |
If cfouts was the one-legged man in the butt-kicking contest he would win hands down |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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wizzyrea |
ok, just as a note |
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* owen |
braces himself |
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jdavidb |
She's itty-bitty, wizzyrea, and is "carrying" it all out front. |
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wizzyrea |
you probably don't want said lovely wife to see you describe her like that |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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wizzyrea |
in fact, the only words re: looks that should be uttered around pregnant women are "you look beautiful" |
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wizzyrea |
just for your reference ;) |
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wizzyrea |
no |
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wizzyrea |
"are you having twins?" |
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jdavidb |
She *does* look beautiful, from the pics I've seen. And cfouts is clearly thoroughly ga-ga over her. |
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wizzyrea |
as well he should be ;) |
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wizzyrea |
or "what you got in there, the green bay packers?" |
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jwagner |
Am out of my day-long set of meetings just in time to head home for yet another one. But we are still active! |
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* wizzyrea |
smiles wryly |
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wizzyrea |
ok, here goes nothing |
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jwagner |
That MARC edit tool is one that we developed and have been using in house for a while. Rashid is a data wizard. |
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wizzyrea |
ptfs++ |
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* jwagner |
smiles not-wryly! |
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jdavidb |
My evil minion's mother got quite-a-bit more pregnant over the summer, when we were in college...one sophomoric friend nearly perished when he said, "Gosh, I thought you'd just gained a buncha weight." |
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* jdavidb |
grins happily at wizzyrea. |
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* jdavidb |
does a happy dance. |
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* jwagner |
is too tired to do a happy dance, but does one mentally |
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DarrellUlm |
Glad to hear it, I will check it out |
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jwagner |
Who would have thunk that these mergers involved so many MEETINGS! |
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DarrellUlm |
Looking forward to good collaborations with PTFS + Community |
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wizzyrea |
me too |
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jwagner |
Just remember, nothing is going to happen _quickly_ -- it's really going to take a lot of time to merge things together & do something with them. |
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DarrellUlm |
I like that word you used "marge" ;) |
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wizzyrea |
jdavidb it tells me you are offline are you makred as DND or invisible? |
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DarrellUlm |
I mean "Merge" (not the Simpsons) |
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jdavidb |
how 'bout now? |
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DarrellUlm |
"Merging" could be good. |
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wizzyrea |
I like merging. |
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jwagner |
gotta run to make the next meeting -- see you all later |
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wizzyrea |
like traffic. Or code. or getting married. |
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wizzyrea |
later jane |
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wizzyrea |
weird, it must be me |
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wizzyrea |
br |
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jdavidb |
@karma ptfs |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Karma for "ptfs" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
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DarrellUlm |
Yes |
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DarrellUlm |
Be well, all it is 75 degrees! |
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DarrellUlm |
(in NE Ohio) and Sunny, usually or weather is like England |
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DarrellUlm |
Bye! |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin` |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 30.9�C (3:16 PM EDT on April 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 8%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling). |
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chris_n |
ahh... heatwave |
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chris_n |
its way to nice to be inside |
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heads off to fix that problem ;) |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
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munin` |
owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 26.1�C (3:16 PM EDT on April 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder 66047 |
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wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 26.6�C (2:37 PM CDT on April 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
you know I don't even know what the khoury's is |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.sunflower.com/~rkhoury/wx.htm |
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wizzyrea |
just some folks who do weather in lawrence |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.9�C (9:30 PM CEST on April 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
ok, i just cant resist, .... things could happen very quickly if there was a public repo, because then a crapload more ppl could do merging |
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* chris |
is always gonna be an agitator im afraid |
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wizzyrea |
stir stir stir |
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owen |
chris: Re: 3.2 ? |
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wizzyrea |
lek, probably |
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chris |
the latter |
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owen |
Oh, okay |
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chris |
or everything |
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chris |
its true for everything |
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wizzyrea |
your mom? |
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wizzyrea |
i merged your mom, now that just sounds just wrong. |
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chris |
my mums recipes |
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owen |
chris don't you remember? LEK is full of "sensitive customer data" |
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chris |
someone should write a book with all the excuses in it |
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chris |
and call it |
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chris |
"Why i failed at business" |
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wizzyrea |
zing |
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chris |
oh cool lee is doing the roadtrip :) |
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nengard |
i looked my the dates i was planning on and think i'll have to pass on the road trip - but i'll see you all in wellington when you get there :) |
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wizzyrea |
man I want to do the road trip, dk if I will be able too though. |
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wizzyrea |
might be hard with a 2 yr old |
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chris |
where are you guys staying wellington? |
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wizzyrea |
not sure yet |
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chris |
you know you can bring the car seat and not count it as luggage eh? |
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wizzyrea |
excellent to know |
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chris |
(Well depends on the airline so check with them first) |
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chris_n |
it might be nice to have a section on the website with sample cost analysis for various size/configuration installations |
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wizzyrea |
^^ yes |
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wizzyrea |
recommendations based on size of collection would be SO helpful |
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chris |
yeah, its hard to get people to give up that information tho |
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chris |
and it varies wildly |
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wizzyrea |
also true |
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chris |
but some diy ones would be good |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if my boss would be willing to work up something |
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wizzyrea |
< hosted, of course |
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chris |
maybe jesse's library might, and chris_n |
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chris |
im sure jo from hlt would |
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chris |
and lee |
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* chris_n |
did it on < 300USD equipment budget :) |
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chris_n |
and *lots* of person-hours |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder how we quantify the necessity of "genius" |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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wizzyrea |
I tease. ;) |
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chris_n |
lol |
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gmcharlt |
it's not the cost of the box, it's the cost of the belt and suspenders in many cases |
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chris_n |
the server was donated by a local business |
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chris_n |
full disclosure: /me owns a large part of it |
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wizzyrea |
and the person to wear the belt and suspenders |
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chris_n |
so really, the scanner and the hours were the lion's share |
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chris |
yeah labour is gonna be the lions share |
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chris_n |
somewhere along the way, I lost track ;) |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technol[…]Tourism-Australia |
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chris |
nz 1 - aus 0 :-) |
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