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hi hdl :) |
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hi kf and hdl_laptop |
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hi chris |
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jdavidb |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin` |
jdavidb: The current temperature in Potomac Highlands, Rockville, Maryland is 9.2�C (7:54 AM EDT on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling). |
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jdavidb |
...which doesn't tell the story, of course. Rainy, nasty, grey morning here. Mornin', #koha. |
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* kf |
would be happy with rain |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.0�C (1:56 PM CEST on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
hay fever |
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@wunder 32605 |
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gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 15.6�C (8:04 AM EDT on March 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
gmcharlt: I m working on xslt changes for analytical records (linking between recods in general) |
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gmcharlt |
kf++ |
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kf |
gmcharlt: using $w if possible and a text link |
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kf |
gmcharlt: just to let you know, because its a topic on the mailing list - will try to write something there too |
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gmcharlt |
will you need any new indexes? |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
one for $w |
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kf |
we called in control-number-link or something in our test installation |
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kf |
several fields with subfield $w in one index, I wrote down the requirements and we have the index in our test installtion, I will try to submit patches for everything as soon as its tested, but perhaps will need some help with git sometimes :) |
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kf |
gmcharlt: reading the emails about analytics: do you think $w + text link will work? I read that some people also catalog isbn and issn - is this 'standard'? |
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gmcharlt |
kf: yes, they do, and it is "standard" |
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gmcharlt |
so, for example, 77x$x and 77x$z would be used as well |
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kf |
hm ok |
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kf |
I just had our records to look at and was not aware of this possibility |
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gmcharlt |
part of the problem is that there is no one good current identifier for works, expressions, and manifestation |
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gmcharlt |
the OCLC number comes closest, at least for certain languages |
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gmcharlt |
but can be difficult to get at |
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kf |
perhaps I will start with a solution for $w and text in $a and x and z can be added in the next step |
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kf |
we have unique identifiers from the union catalog, but I know our situation is a bit special |
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kf |
dont know about works, expressions and manifestations, but for essays and such things |
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kf |
gmcharlt: is a new index a problem? |
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gmcharlt |
nope |
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kf |
ok :) |
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kf |
hm I wrote to koha mailing list, but its not there yet |
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gmcharlt |
fredericd: what's the git protocol clone URL for http://git.tamil.fr/?p=marcmpm;a=summary |
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kf |
ah, email arrived .) |
| 13:30 |
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* jdavidb |
is increasingly frustrated by diacritics. Again. |
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* kf |
feels with jdavid |
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kf |
what is your problem? |
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jdavidb |
I did a prior experiment using icu, with less-than-wonderful results (couldn't see any change). During some transition talks here, kados had said he had the problem whipped, *without* using ICU, but more and more I get the suspicion that he wasn't telling the whole story. |
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kf |
hm |
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jdavidb |
So I'm trying again with ICU, based on the guidance in bug 2629, and we'll see how it goes. |
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munin` |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
| 13:33 |
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kf |
we have good experiences with icu |
| 13:34 |
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kf |
ignoring diacritics for search |
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jdavidb |
I'm using the ICU chain from Comment #3 on this bug; we'll see how it turns out. Reindexing a database now. |
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jdavidb |
Right. I've got a db that contains the name Justo Gonzalez (with an accent over the a), but not without the accent, so I'll know right quick if it worked. |
| 13:35 |
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jdavidb |
Want to be able to search without typing the accent. |
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kf |
I can look at our server how our file looks |
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jdavidb |
If I can find something that *works*, I'll run it on everyone's stuff, and make many customers happy. |
| 13:36 |
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kf |
but I think its quite similar |
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jdavidb |
If you're happy with your results, kf, I'd *love* to get a look at your icu-chain. |
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kf |
my colleague got it working, but I can search the file for you |
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kf |
perhaps you might want to look at our opac hfjs.bsz-bw.de - bibliotheque bibliothèque and bibliothéque are the same results there |
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looks. |
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kf |
can you give me the path? |
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jdavidb |
sweet! yeah, that's *just* what we want. |
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jdavidb |
My ICU chain is in koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc/icu.xml, but a grep in etc/zebradb/etc for icu_chain should find it. |
| 13:42 |
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kf |
perhaps you need to change something else |
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jdavidb |
before, transliterate rules were getting errors, but so far they haven't, this time...we shall see. |
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kf |
I can ask my colleague what he did - but not before Wednesday |
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kf |
I you want me to look at other files I can do |
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jdavidb |
okay. I've got a test run about 2/3 done. Cross fingers. |
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* kf |
crosses fingers |
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morning, jwagner |
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jwagner |
morning |
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jdavidb |
Two chris_n-s! yay! |
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* jdavidb |
assigns a big bunch of bugs. |
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hopes the two chris_ns are not locked in mortal combat somewhere.... |
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chris_n` |
heh |
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chris_n` |
power outages sometime cause unintentional cloning :) |
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jwagner |
So THAT's how it's done! |
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jdavidb |
well, okay. kf, it sorta worked, thanks for crossing your fingers. But I'm having another odd behavior--I have to specify an index now, to get what I want... kw:gonzalez works, but gonzalez alone returns no results. (*everything* returns no-results.."twain", even.) |
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kf |
jdavidb: turn off all search options |
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kf |
jdavidb: and turn them on one after the other... one of those is your problem |
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kf |
jdavidb: I always forget which one |
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kf |
and we turned off some more because not all work with hebrew |
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jdavidb |
ah-hah. QueryFuzzy seems to be the culprit. |
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jdavidb |
now GonzaÌlez and Gonzalez return the same number of hits. |
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jdavidb |
kf++ |
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wizzyrea |
good mid-morning CDT |
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jdavidb |
Hi, wizzyrea! :) |
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kf |
karma! :) |
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jdavidb |
@karma kf |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Karma for "kf" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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jdavidb |
@karma |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (116), "chris" (115), and "owen" (91). Lowest karma: "<!" (-47), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (jdavidb) are ranked 16 out of 748. |
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gmcharlt |
poor punctuation - so underappreciated |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
@karma ie |
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munin` |
kf: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 8 times for a total karma of -8. |
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kf |
hm |
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jdavidb |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin` |
jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19. |
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kf |
456 words need attention :) |
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kf |
Intranet for 3.1.x/3.2 100 Complete yay :) |
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jmill2010 |
hi all |
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wizzyrea |
ok, I have a jquery question |
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wizzyrea |
I want to get rid of the No Holds Allowed text |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/MmE4MjM2 |
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wizzyrea |
it doesn't have any tags around it except <td></td> |
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wizzyrea |
I have been able to select to the cell, but I don't know how to change the text |
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wizzyrea |
or remove it, actually |
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wizzyrea |
everything I've tried removes the cells, and I know that I need to be more specific, but I'm not sure the code allows it? |
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wizzyrea |
can I say everything *not* in a <p></p>? |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's the only thing outside the p, but inside the TD |
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jmill2010 |
I have a general question regarding barcode systems, how do i figure that out, i don't see any info about that in the manual |
| 16:25 |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, as a guess, try this in intranetuserjs: $("#searchresults span:contains('No holds allowed')").remove(); |
| 16:26 |
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wizzyrea |
hmmm interesting approach, I was looking at :not() |
| 16:28 |
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wizzyrea |
:( no, that doesn't do it |
| 16:29 |
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jwagner |
Oh, well, was just a guess :-( |
| 16:29 |
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wizzyrea |
ty tho |
| 16:29 |
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jwagner |
May have to wait until owen is online. |
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kf |
hi liz |
| 16:30 |
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kf |
still need help? |
| 16:31 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm thinking something like #searchresults td:not(:p).(something) |
| 16:31 |
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wizzyrea |
yea lol |
| 16:31 |
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jwagner |
Maybe $("#searchresults span:contains('No holds allowed')").replaceWith(" "); |
| 16:34 |
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kf |
I have an idea |
| 16:34 |
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kf |
give me a mom to test |
| 16:36 |
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kf |
hm, does not work as expected :( |
| 16:37 |
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jmill2010 |
regarding barcode systems, i don't see any info about that in the manual |
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schuster |
hello everyone! |
| 16:39 |
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schuster |
My question today is - can I load a batch of records with items and replace the existing items through the web interface? |
| 16:39 |
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jwagner |
jmill2010, what are you looking for? What kind of barcode to use? Or barcode reader? |
| 16:40 |
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kf |
tried $("td:contains('No holds allowed')").html(""); but selector needs to be more specific |
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jmill2010 |
all of the above |
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kf |
schuster: yes, using matching rules |
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kf |
ah no |
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kf |
you cant replace items |
| 16:40 |
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kf |
sorry, need to read more carefully |
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jmill2010 |
say I buy a barcode scanner and printer, what then |
| 16:41 |
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schuster |
hmmm Drat. |
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kf |
once an item is created with a specific barcode, you cant delete or change it with the web interface |
| 16:41 |
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schuster |
OK game plan 2... Thanks |
| 16:42 |
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jwagner |
jmill2010, so far as I know, Koha can read any standard barcode. If you can scan the barcode into a text file, it should work with Koha. |
| 16:43 |
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jmill2010 |
just like that, no need to configure anything? |
| 16:44 |
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jwagner |
I think there's a syspref for barcode reader that you might want to set to cuecat (that being the nearest equivalent). |
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jmill2010 |
thanks, jwagner, where would that syspref be? |
| 16:45 |
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kf |
hm cuecat is special |
| 16:45 |
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kf |
its a special barcode reader device which encodes the barcode |
| 16:46 |
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kf |
the cuecat setting is to decoe the barcode as far as I know |
| 16:46 |
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kf |
so you might want to use no setting |
| 16:46 |
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* kf |
owns a declawed cuecat |
| 16:47 |
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jwagner |
kf, thanks. I thought I remembered reading that cuecat was a generic for any type of reader. |
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jwagner |
Syspref is itemBarcodeInputFilter, under Administration, System Preferences, Circulation. You probably also want to turn off autoBarcode under the Cataloging sysprefs |
| 16:48 |
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jmill2010 |
so i guess any barcode scanner will do, or does anyone recommend a particular model/brand? |
| 16:49 |
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kf |
cuecat: http://spedr.com/2y7lx |
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kf |
jmill2010: you can program barcode readers to use different barcode codes |
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kf |
I think the reader is not that important as long as it can read your code (most readers will read all common barcode codes) |
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jmill2010 |
awesome, thanks, guys! |
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kf |
wizzyrea? |
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chris_n` |
jmill2010: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php#[…]ode_scanner_notes |
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jmill2010 |
Thanks, chris_n! |
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kf |
ok, time to leave office :) |
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kf |
bye all |
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jdavidb |
@seen nengard |
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munin` |
jdavidb: nengard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <nengard> wizzyrea a sinus infection - a bad one |
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jdavidb |
Gosh. Long time out, for her. |
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jdavidb : QueryFuzzy introduces a zebra 5=103 which is not supported with icu |
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hdl_laptop |
jdavidb: she is ill |
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oh bother, missed kf |
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wizzyrea |
hey, is there any movement on changing the order of the edit items table? |
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those first 6 or so subfields need to be displayed at the end, not the beginning |
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wizzyrea |
the end of the row* |
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jdavidb |
hdl_laptop: I remember hearing last week about her being sick. :/ Hope she gets well soon...miss her smilin' face. |
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terrible asthma attack brought on by a sinus infection, she told me |
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twitter/facebook said she left hospital yesterday |
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chris_n` |
monday-- #for good measure |
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wonders what chris_n got done today ;) |
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wajasu |
me too |
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wajasu |
gonna try that alpha tar |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
morning |
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chris_n` |
hey richard && chris |
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richard |
hi chris_n |
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richard |
and chris :) |
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chris_n |
its far too quiet in here for a monday |
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chris |
thats cos its tuesday |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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gmcharlt |
zing! ;) |
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chris |
tis a pretty quiet tuesday too |
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brendan |
evening #koha |
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chris |
hiya brendan |
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