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Jo |
hi all |
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braedon|work |
ahoy Jo |
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chris |
hi Jo |
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Jo |
Chris :) |
| 00:33 |
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Jo |
hello stranger |
| 00:33 |
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Jo |
me the stranger that is |
| 00:34 |
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Jo |
Trustees acceopted the koha rules with 1 change - that people with criminal convictions are not eleigible to be officeholders on the Koha subcommittee |
| 00:34 |
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russ |
:-) |
| 00:34 |
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chris |
sounds fair enough to me |
| 00:34 |
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Jo |
waves at Russ too :) |
| 00:35 |
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* braedon|work |
feels rejected |
| 00:35 |
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Jo |
I don't imagine that will cause any ruckus in the Koha community. |
| 00:35 |
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Jo |
waves and blows kisses at the entire Koha community :) |
| 00:36 |
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Jo |
the other thing is that the Councillors who were at our meeting suggested that the mayor should be asked / invited to host a mayoral reception for KohaCon attendees |
| 00:36 |
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Jo |
welcome them to Horowhenua etc |
| 00:36 |
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Jo |
just writing that letter and wondered about which date we should suggest. |
| 00:37 |
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chris |
i think you need to talk to Mark at ASHS about that |
| 00:37 |
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Jo |
I did poiont out it could feasibly be anything between 100 - 300 people but they wreren't fazed by that :) |
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russ |
right |
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chris |
wasnt part of the plan to do that as part of the road trip? |
| 00:37 |
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russ |
but transporting that number to levin could be an issue |
| 00:37 |
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chris |
yeah |
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Jo |
buses I guess |
| 00:38 |
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Jo |
I'll get a quote aye |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
can't hurt |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
the other thing is the time factor |
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Jo |
yep |
| 00:38 |
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Jo |
coz it is 1.5 hours drive each way |
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chris |
it will eat up a good chunk of a day |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
it would be neat tho |
| 00:38 |
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Jo |
late afternoon / evening |
| 00:39 |
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Jo |
starting to get lighter october / november |
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chris |
yup |
| 00:39 |
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Jo |
but would have to be leaving wgtn by 4pm to get away ahead of the traffic |
| 00:39 |
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chris |
yeah, the other option would be the day after, ie thursday |
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Jo |
would be neat but maybe too hard .... |
| 00:39 |
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chris |
and start the hackfest on friday |
| 00:39 |
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Jo |
yep |
| 00:40 |
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Jo |
but we would lose a productive day |
| 00:40 |
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chris |
yeah but it might be nice to have that break, 3 days of thinking .. have a break and get back into |
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Jo |
leaving wgtn at 4pm would mean we still get a good solid chunk of productivity |
| 00:40 |
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Jo |
true. |
| 00:40 |
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Jo |
there might be marketing grant which could pay for the bus |
| 00:41 |
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chris |
yeah, wouldnt want to do that on any of the conference days, but maybe the first day of the hackfest could finish early |
| 00:41 |
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Jo |
you know : selling our region to international tourists who will go and tell everyone at home how pretty naturte coast is |
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chris |
:) |
| 00:41 |
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chris |
i figure get some quotes cant hurt |
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Jo |
train etc would be nightmare |
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chris |
yup |
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Jo |
ok. Ill get some quotes and bring them to next community meeting |
| 00:42 |
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chris |
im sure we could get a reporter or 2 along |
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Jo |
and will strat the inquiry process with the mayor and suggest it would be thursday early eveningveing |
| 00:42 |
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Jo |
might try and tie it into tea on way back to wgtn |
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chris |
yeah thats a good idea |
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Jo |
do we have any estimates at all on numbers we could be xpecting? |
| 00:43 |
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russ |
less than 120 as that is all the room can hold |
| 00:43 |
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Jo |
for planning, quoting purposes? - and I know they are all best guesses |
| 00:43 |
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Jo |
cool :) |
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chris |
well yes and no |
| 00:43 |
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chris |
because ppl are bringing partners |
| 00:44 |
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chris |
which might want to come to the reception, but not the conference |
| 00:44 |
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chris |
but yeah it wouldnt be much more than that |
| 00:44 |
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Jo |
of course. ok - will say may be 50-150 :) |
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chris |
so far (excluding, russ, jo and mark osborne) all the registrations have been from overseas |
| 00:45 |
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Jo |
i am planning to bring 2 down with me (have booked 2 room apartment) |
| 00:45 |
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chris |
but we havent really started a registration drive yet, will send out another email after the next meeting |
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Jo |
sure. |
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chris |
and maybe get you to forward it to the librarian type lists |
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Jo |
so we suggest 28th Oct to the mayor |
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chris |
as a tentative date |
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russ |
heh i didnt realise the first day of conf is labour day |
| 00:48 |
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russ |
that is a bit of a pain - all the cafe's will have their stupid holiday surcharge |
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chris |
well theres quite a few now that don't |
| 00:48 |
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chris |
ill make a list of them |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
ive started asking, then leaving if they do |
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Jo |
thats a powerful message |
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chris |
maybe ill start |
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chris |
cantbudget.co.nz |
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chris |
and list ones that have surcharges |
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russ |
chris: sister site to our credit card one :-) ? |
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chris |
good idea :) |
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chris |
probably be lots of crossover |
| 01:14 |
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Jo |
reflecting that Rosalie being fully prepared as a koha 3.2 trainer can only be a good thing for NZ koha prospects |
| 01:14 |
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Jo |
though I think she was planning to retire :) |
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chris |
yup |
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Amit_G |
hi all |
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Amit_G |
good morning chris |
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richard |
hi amit |
| 03:39 |
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* richard |
reads back and realises that looking at the kohacon registration page isn't the same as filling it in |
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Amit_G |
hi richard |
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Amit_G |
Any one tested koha-alpha on Centos5 |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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* magnus |
wonders if wiki.koha.org should really be called Koha *Developer* Wiki |
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chris |
not really the sql library, the meetings agenda/minutes ... the kohausers table etc |
| 08:07 |
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chris |
theres is lots of non developer stuff on there, including install guides |
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chris |
just Koha Wiki would do |
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chris |
but again, we cant change that |
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chris |
hi IrmaCalyx |
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kf |
good morning |
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Amit_G |
heya kf,, Ropuch |
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magnus |
chris: ah yes, the old access to assets issue... :-( |
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IrmaCalyx |
hi all |
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IrmaCalyx |
sorry ... last interruption ...now that my daughters are out to enjoy their Friday evening meet-up with friends |
| 08:43 |
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IrmaCalyx |
May I be lazy and ask 1 question? |
| 08:44 |
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IrmaCalyx |
Without looking it up... |
| 08:44 |
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magnus |
you can try... ;-) |
| 08:44 |
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IrmaCalyx |
Sure it has been asked before |
| 08:44 |
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IrmaCalyx |
What is the max of rows for a bulk patron import? |
| 08:45 |
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IrmaCalyx |
The requested resource |
| 08:45 |
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IrmaCalyx |
does not allow request data with POST requests, or the amount of data provided in the request exceeds the capacity limit. |
| 08:46 |
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IrmaCalyx |
Perhaps an answer magnus? ^.^ |
| 08:47 |
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IrmaCalyx |
I can send you some sunshine and heat in exchange... |
| 08:48 |
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magnus |
that would be nice... but i never heard of a limit... |
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IrmaCalyx |
so the file size can be unlimited? |
| 08:49 |
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IrmaCalyx |
The error message said: Request Entity Too Large |
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magnus |
there may be limits set by your server |
| 08:50 |
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IrmaCalyx |
I see ... |
| 08:50 |
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magnus |
i would try dividing the file into smaller files if it's huge |
| 08:51 |
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IrmaCalyx |
It's less than 1.500 paton records |
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magnus |
that doesn't sound huge... |
| 08:53 |
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IrmaCalyx |
Something else might be happening. Client just emailed. Ok, sounds like I will have to ask my team |
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paul_p |
hi irma & magnus (& anyone else around) |
| 08:55 |
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magnus |
hi paul_p |
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IrmaCalyx |
Thanks magnus... |
| 08:55 |
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IrmaCalyx |
hi Paul Ca va? |
| 08:55 |
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paul_p |
IrmaCalyx: yep, thanks. it's friday, the week end should be sunny, we feel spring coming. |
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IrmaCalyx |
It's been a long winter! Enjoy |
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IrmaCalyx |
Our days have started to be noticably shorter since a week or so ... but happy it's giving you the early taste of spring ... mostly! |
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IrmaCalyx |
:-) I am off for some dinner ... Good evening all. |
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IrmaCalyx |
Have a good day |
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gmcharlt |
greetings #koha |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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nengard |
morning all |
| 12:23 |
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nengard |
I have a 'trailing whitespace' question ... I'm getting these errors for patches of mine that haven't been pushed yet ... is this an issue on tmpl files? or just pl files? |
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paul_p2 |
good morning nengard & gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: trailing whitespace doesn't really matter as far as Koha source files are concerned |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - okay -well I submitted follow ups to remove those errors anyway :) |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20740 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.1�C (8:01 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.37 in 994.5 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
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fallor |
hi #koha :) |
| 13:11 |
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nengard |
okay - i've added more acquisitions documentation - i think we could use an acq tutorial day hosted by biblibre :) |
| 13:11 |
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nengard |
jwagner - i'd rather have high wind over my forcast |
| 13:11 |
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nengard |
@wunder 19030 |
| 13:11 |
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munin |
nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (8:00 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon EST today... |
| 13:13 |
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jwagner |
nengard, not sure about that. The wind is REALLY strong (gusts 50-60 mph) which makes it VERY cold out there.... |
| 13:13 |
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jwagner |
One can cope with snow, but you can't shovel wind.... |
| 13:13 |
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nengard |
we have the wind too :) |
| 13:13 |
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nengard |
it's 'blizzard conditions' |
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jwagner |
The best of both worlds! They say we may get a little snow today off the back side of the storm. |
| 13:14 |
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fallor |
i think i found a bug in OPAC |
| 13:15 |
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fallor |
Related subjects doesn't work right when using XSLTDetailsDisplay |
| 13:16 |
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fallor |
clicking on chained subject terms only does the search with the first term in the chain |
| 13:17 |
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fallor |
for example: http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/ko[…]biblionumber=1720 |
| 13:17 |
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fallor |
all the links do the search with "su:maailmanmusiikki" |
| 13:18 |
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fallor |
instead of "su:maailmanmusiikki and su:[whatever]" |
| 13:18 |
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fallor |
which is what you'd expect |
| 13:18 |
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fallor |
is this a known thingy? |
| 13:18 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <fallor> is this a known thingy? |
| 13:18 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #62 added. |
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gmcharlt |
sorry, couldn't resist |
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gmcharlt |
fallor: does sound like a bug - file a report at bugs.koha.org |
| 13:19 |
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fallor |
ok, will do :) |
| 13:19 |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
| 13:19 |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 03:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 13:20 |
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jdavidb |
lol |
| 13:20 |
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jwagner |
I'm looking on an OPAC at roughly .061 level and the related subject query link looks like q=an:3663 |
| 13:20 |
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jwagner |
Looks like major changes to that area? |
| 13:21 |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: q=an: I think is used only if a heading is linked to an authority via a subfield $9 |
| 13:21 |
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gmcharlt |
otherwise, the search on subject terms is used isntead |
| 13:22 |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, I think that's the case. Just checked a current head system and it still uses the an: -- we have authority records in the system. |
| 13:22 |
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jwagner |
Never mind.... |
| 13:40 |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
| 13:40 |
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munin |
jwagner: Quote #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say I'm happy i managed to bypass the firewall to be with you *** tomascohen quit (Remote host closed the connection)" (added by ricardo at 11:05 AM, October 08, 2009) |
| 13:41 |
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tomascohen |
that was great |
| 13:41 |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
| 13:41 |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
@quote random |
| 13:47 |
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munin |
kf: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009) |
| 13:50 |
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owen |
fallor still here? |
| 13:50 |
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* owen |
is wondering what version of Koha fallor is running |
| 13:54 |
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magnus |
owen: he mentioned http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/ko[…]biblionumber=1720 which says <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0000107" /> |
| 13:54 |
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magnus |
(or she, for all i know) |
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* owen |
really needs to set up an install of 3.0.x for testing |
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nengard |
gmcharlt and paul_p2 what's the status on bug 3881 ? |
| 14:17 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3881 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain biblibre.com, NEW, No Page for Opac Privacy |
| 14:17 |
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gmcharlt |
not pushed yet, will be working on patches this weekend |
| 14:20 |
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nengard |
okey dokey!! |
| 14:24 |
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jwagner |
I see snowflakes out my window! |
| 14:26 |
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nengard |
LOL |
| 14:27 |
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owen |
That doesn't help pin down your location very accurately jwagner |
| 14:27 |
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nengard |
she's just seeing them now - that helps a bit - the rest of us on the east have had it non stop since yesterday |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20740 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.8�C (9:27 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
| 14:27 |
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jwagner |
does that help, owen? |
| 14:28 |
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owen |
Now we know where to bring the shovels if you stop broadcasting |
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| 14:29 |
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jwagner |
Nah, the time for shovels was a couple of weeks ago. We're only supposed to get an inch or two max out of this one. |
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fallor |
owen: yep, i'm still here |
| 14:35 |
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fallor |
owen: yep, still here (or rather again) |
| 14:35 |
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fallor |
i'm repeating myself |
| 14:35 |
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owen |
Hi fallor, I was asking about your Koha version. |
| 14:36 |
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fallor |
it's 3.00.something, let me check that for you |
| 14:36 |
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fallor |
3.00.00.107 is the exact version |
| 14:37 |
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fallor |
the demo system on liblime.com seems to do the same, i'm not sure which version that is |
| 14:37 |
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owen |
LibLime doesn't use real Koha, so don't check their demos |
| 14:38 |
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fallor |
oh, they don't? |
| 14:38 |
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owen |
LibLime has forked Koha. They don't release their developments to the community anymore. |
| 14:38 |
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fallor |
err... how is that possible? |
| 14:38 |
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owen |
But they won't give us access to koha.org, so we can't change the links there |
| 14:38 |
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fallor |
i thought it's all gpl |
| 14:39 |
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owen |
Check http://koha-community.org/ for current news |
| 14:39 |
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fallor |
ah, ok |
| 14:39 |
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owen |
Just because it's GPL doesn't mean they can't fork |
| 14:39 |
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fallor |
still they can't change the license can they? |
| 14:40 |
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owen |
No, but as long as they're hosting Koha for their customers, and as long as their customers never ask to see the actual code... |
| 14:40 |
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fallor |
so much for the ethics side on that... |
| 14:41 |
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fallor |
so liblime is becoming sort of a google of oss-librarysystems |
| 14:42 |
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fallor |
they take everything they can but give practically nothing back |
| 14:42 |
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owen |
I think that characterization is unfair to Google ;) |
| 14:42 |
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paul_p2 |
yep, I agree with owen |
| 14:42 |
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fallor |
whoa! :D |
| 14:43 |
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fallor |
so how long has this been going on? |
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paul_p2 |
something like 6 months ? |
| 14:43 |
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paul_p2 |
publicly => sept, 11th, when they announced publicly LLEK |
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paul_p2 |
(LL Entreprise Koha) |
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fallor |
that's a shame :( |
| 14:48 |
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owen |
paul_p2: Perhaps you or hdl_laptop could test Bug 4276 in 3.0.x? I suspect it's fixed in a more recent version than fallor has |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
| 14:54 |
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magnus |
is "Computer networks --Law and legislation --United States." here: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]pl?biblionumber=2 an appropriate example? |
| 14:55 |
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owen |
That's the right kind of thing, but fallor's looking at the XSL view |
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owen |
Hm... Actually it looks like this is still a problem |
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magnus |
owen: changed it to XSLT now, doesn't look too good (on HEAD) |
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paul_p2 |
mmm... I suspect it's a marc21 related bug, because in UNIMARC it works well |
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fallor |
whoops, barcode generator started acting up |
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fallor |
(whatonearth...?) |
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fallor |
it went from 1524, 15257, 15283, 152847 |
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fallor |
doesn't seem too linear for me :D |
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fallor |
what's this about? |
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owen |
paul_p2: What are UNIMARC's subject tags? Is it a range of numbers like MARC21's 6** ? |
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paul_p2 |
owen: yep, it's 6xx |
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paul_p2 |
it's in C4/Biblio.pm/GetMarcSubjects |
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paul_p2 |
strange, it's almost the same code (unimarc skip $2$3$4$5 where marc21 skip only $2) |
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fallor |
where does that excess 7 come from?? |
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owen |
paul_p2: The XSL views don't use GetMarcSubjects do they? |
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gmcharlt |
owen: they do not |
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paul_p2 |
oups... sorry, you're right |
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paul_p2 |
should be a bug in xslt view |
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fallor |
strange things... |
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owen |
gmcharlt: Okay if I assign this one to you? |
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gmcharlt |
owen: sure |
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fallor |
gmcharlt: will that be a hard thing to fix? |
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gmcharlt |
no |
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fallor |
can you estimate how long will it take? |
| 15:27 |
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wizzyrea_ |
patience is a virtue |
| 15:28 |
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gmcharlt |
fallor: we'll see - I also have to get a release of 3.2 out, after all |
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* jwagner |
hands gmcharlt a time machine to get more hours in the day |
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fallor |
i'll see if there is something i can do about it myself |
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fallor |
i'm not an expert in this kind of things in any way, but i'll let you know if i succeed in doing something about it |
| 15:32 |
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fallor |
now to home, big evening today |
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owen |
Is anyone doing anything interesting with unapi and Koha? |
| 15:32 |
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fallor |
finland-usa hockey @22 :) |
| 15:33 |
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fallor |
exiting... :) |
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owen |
Or examples of unapi being used with other systems? |
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* jwagner |
is cheering on USA! |
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jwagner |
despite the women's team loss yesterday.... |
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fallor |
well as a finn you know what i'll be cheering ;) |
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jwagner |
I've had a problem with watching the hockey -- I'm an NHL hockey fan, so I have favorite players scattered across multiple national teams. Sometimes hard to know which side to cheer for! |
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gmcharlt |
fallor: cool - go for it - if you can do a patch, that would be great |
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kf |
bye #koha and have a nice weekend all |
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schuster |
I have a question while looking at the KohaCon 2010 information. |
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schuster |
Oct 25th is a monday - 3 day conference - ends Wednesday. So Thursday/Friday - then a free weekend? hackfest continues Monday/Tuesday? |
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schuster |
4 day hackfest. |
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schuster |
Just trying to see if I could swing it. Problem would be the majority of the expense coming out of my pocket... |
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schuster |
Is anyone looking for a room mate ??? |
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* owen |
vouches for schuster |
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schuster |
owen - meaning same question or? vouches - I would be allowed to come? ;) |
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owen |
I'm just letting everyone know that I think you'd make a good room mate :) |
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schuster |
LOL... Thanks... Trying to figure out time conversions... |
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jwagner |
hdl_laptop or paul_p, online? |
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nengard |
training bugs all reported ... sorry to those dealing with reports/acq and serials :( |
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gmcharlt |
is anybody else able to get to translate.koha.org? |
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nengard |
doesn't look like it on my end |
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owen |
translate.koha.org seems to be going down daily now |
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nengard |
loaded for me finally |
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brendan |
morning #koha |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.3�C (9:11 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening... |
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brendan |
hmmm... quiet at the moment |
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gmcharlt |
BOOM! |
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brendan |
YEAH! |
| 18:09 |
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gmcharlt |
that help? |
| 18:09 |
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brendan |
thanks gmcharlt++ |
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jwagner |
and I was enjoying the peace and quiet :-) |
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brendan |
@karma |
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munin |
brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (110), "gmcharlt" (109), and "owen" (89). Lowest karma: "<!" (-43), "failed" (-26), and "-" (-21). You (brendan) are ranked 18 out of 723. |
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brendan |
ooooH close one |
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brendan |
owen++ |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (11:01 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening... |
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chris |
gonna be a nice date |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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chris |
day even |
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chris |
hiya brendan |
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cait |
hi chris and brendan |
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chris |
hi cait |
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brendan |
so finally home and slept in my bed... did wonders for my neck and back :) |
| 19:07 |
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brendan |
hi cait |
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brendan |
amazing how little things like that have such a big effect |
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brendan |
@karma brendan |
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munin |
brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
| 19:07 |
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brendan |
:) |
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cait |
@karma cait |
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munin |
cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 19:08 |
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brendan |
cait++ |
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cait |
oh thx :) |
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chris |
yeah hotel beds can really mess you up |
| 19:09 |
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chris |
that and the fact you usually sleep way less than you need at conferences :) |
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brendan |
I think it was the plane flights -- the people I was sitting next too - should have had two seats to themselves instead of one |
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brendan |
I was crammed in the corner and I body felt like a big C |
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brendan |
s/I/my |
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chris |
hehe |
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chris |
i hear that |
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chris |
make sure to ask for an exit row on the flight to NZ |
| 19:11 |
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jdavidb |
cait++ # agreeing with brendan. |
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cait |
wow thx jdavidb |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
but not sure I m worth that much karma |
| 19:13 |
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gmcharlt |
cait++ # we disagree |
| 19:13 |
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jdavidb |
Sure you are. Patches are not the only thing that make a good community, and karma isn't tied to patch-count (don't tell gmcharlt I said that.) you're nice to have around here. |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
gonna try upgrading pootle from 2.0.0 to 2.0.2 |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
which might make it stop crashing, or it might break everything |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
we'll soon find out |
| 19:14 |
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gmcharlt |
jdavidb: I can always decrement one whenever I push one of your patches, if you would prefer ;) |
| 19:14 |
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jdavidb |
gmcharlt: oh, I don't mind getting incremented on patches. But is nice to get incremented on other stuff too. |
| 19:14 |
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gmcharlt |
agreed |
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* cait |
blushes |
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brendan |
jdavidb++ |
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brendan |
funny how my linux# doesn't understand that command |
| 19:15 |
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jdavidb |
'sides, if you decrement on patch-count, I'd be ahead of jwagner, maybe... now then....hmmm. |
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* brendan |
should make sure he's on the right screen |
| 19:16 |
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jdavidb |
thanx, brendan! |
| 19:17 |
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* jdavidb |
has done a weary-ingly-large amount of work this week, most of it invisibly. |
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cait |
chris: good luck! |
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chris |
ok, upgrade done, now im refreshing stats then ill start pootle again |
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* jwagner |
tells jdavidb Harrumph. Leave my karma alone! |
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jdavidb |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
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jdavidb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19. |
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chris |
waiting waiting, halfway thru the intranet po files now |
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brendan |
@quote random |
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munin |
brendan: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
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* cait |
is waiting with chris |
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cait |
@quote random |
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munin |
cait: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 03:50 PM, January 28, 2010) |
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brendan |
hi nelsonf |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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gmcharlt |
@wunder 32605 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 14.4�C (2:59 PM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
ill pass you in about 20 mins i think gmcharlt |
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chris |
its bright blue sky .. sunscreen day today |
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chris |
ok translate.koha.org is back |
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chris |
cait: can you give it a try |
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chris |
seems to be working as it should |
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* gmcharlt |
looked at the completion bar for Basque, blinked, then realized that it was just for the Gnome terminology set |
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nengard |
chris - works here - a bit slow but it works |
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chris |
hehe yeah |
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chris |
nengard: cool thanks |
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pabloab |
Hi all! |
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chris |
hiya pabloab |
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pabloab |
Just a simple question! Someone know who have rights to delete articles on koha's wiki? |
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chris |
anyone does |
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chris |
anyone with a login |
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pabloab |
I was trying to cleanup things (is a mess!) |
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gmcharlt |
pabloab: edit the page, set it to empty |
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chris |
then delete links to it |
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chris |
and its gone |
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chris |
bbiab |
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pabloab |
oops! just clean all the content? I'm familiar with wikipedia, where only "vip users" (librarians) can delete |
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cait |
chris: sorry was afk, pootle works fine for me |
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cait |
chris++ |
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gmcharlt |
pabloab: yep |
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pabloab |
Excelent! Thanks! |
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pabloab |
Another: There is a reason why no one on english community dares to move all those articles to en:wiki namespace ? |
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gmcharlt |
there's been at least one major namespace move recently that wasn't completed |
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jdavidb |
hi, pianohackr|work! :) |
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chris |
pabloab: just time |
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gmcharlt |
I've no objection in principle, but some of the URLs such as the git tutorial are now well known URLs |
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chris |
i have one more thing to try, currently pootle is using sqlite for its stats, now tha file is 1.8gig |
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chris |
im gonna try to make it use mysql instead |
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chris |
but not today |
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chris |
today im going to the dragon boat festival |
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pabloab |
I was trying to fix someones, but I wasn't brave enough to move from here to there, perhaps breaking something |
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chris |
back later |
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pianohackr|work |
hola, jdavidb |
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jwagner |
3-0 US over Finland, early in first period :-) |
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cait |
will go to bed - good night #koha! |
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wizzyrea_ |
gnite cait |
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jwagner |
In the old_issues table, is the timestamp the date/time the item was returned? |
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brendan |
timestamp is a mysql thing meaning the last time that row was touched |
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jwagner |
What would touch it in the old_issues table? Anything besides the act of checking it in? (i.e., moving from issues to old_issues) |
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brendan |
not sure about that - |
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brendan |
most likely that should be your answer |
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jwagner |
I have a puzzler where an overdue notice went out after the item was allegedly returned. The copy of the email notice has a date/time that doesn't match the message queue, and the item record shows a return date of one thing while the timestamp is a day later. I'm wondering if someone is monkeying with bookdrop or something. |
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jwagner |
The grace period in circ rules only applies to fines, right? Not to overdues? |
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brendan |
it could also be a difference between the time on the server (where mysql gets it timestamp) versus the time that the browser is using (but don't quote me on that one) |
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wizzyrea_ |
jwagner: any time we've seen anything like that it's always been human intervention |
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jwagner |
Hmmm. Time zone could be a possibility too -- server is on east coast, site/user is on west coast. |
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wizzyrea_ |
like, the bookdrop was processed late |
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jwagner |
I think time zone accounts for the email difference, but the timestamp is too far off for that. I'll have the site librarian interrogate her staff :-) |
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brendan |
could also be the server is on UTC time and not east cost time |
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brendan |
but I wouldn't think that was totally true (just a guess) |
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jwagner |
No, server is definitely East Coast time -- everything else is OK. |
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brendan |
:) |
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jwagner |
I think it's a helpful desk staff person.... |
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jwagner |
But I'll worry about it on Monday. Have a good weekend, everyone. |
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CGI722 |
can someone help a koha newbie out? |
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brendan |
go ahead and ask |
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CGI722 |
sweet! thanks....we just installed koha 3.00.004 on a CentOS 5.3 box |
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CGI722 |
imported about 20k MARC records |
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CGI722 |
during the import, the records came over but no items |
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CGI722 |
so we added a couple of items manually just to test the system out |
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CGI722 |
when we add 1 item to a record, public queries work |
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CGI722 |
but if we add another item to the same record, we get a 404 page |
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CGI722 |
this would be another item with a different barcode, but same title |
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CGI722 |
when do see the title in the search results, but clicking the title is when we get the 404 |
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CGI722 |
if i remove the second item i added, the 404 goes away |
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CGI722 |
and we get a valid result |
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brendan |
hmmm.. I haven't seen that before |
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brendan |
maybe someone else here will help out |
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CGI722 |
do you think i am adding items incorrectly? |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh this sounds very vaguely familiar... |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea_ |
like, something I've seen in my many failures at installing koha... |
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CGI722 |
haha ok, well that makes me feel a little better |
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brendan |
wow wizzyrea_ way to be nice! |
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wizzyrea_ |
you have itemtypes defined and all that? |
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wizzyrea_ |
man, i've failed at installing koha in so many creative ways |
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wizzyrea_ |
;) |
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CGI722 |
yeah, was using the default item types |
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CGI722 |
so for that particular case, item type is book for both entries |
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wizzyrea_ |
and it works with one item, but adding another gives a 404... |
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wizzyrea_ |
OH |
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wizzyrea_ |
um um |
| 22:21 |
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CGI722 |
yes |
| 22:21 |
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wizzyrea_ |
XSLT stylesheets for opac, on or off? |
| 22:21 |
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CGI722 |
no idea, let me check |
| 22:21 |
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CGI722 |
hmm where is that? haha |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea_ |
system administration -> preferences search for XSLT |
| 22:22 |
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CGI722 |
Set to Off for XSLTDetailsDisplay and XSLTResultsDisplay |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
brendan: try turning them on |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
er |
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wizzyrea_ |
wrong person lol |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
722, try turning them on |
| 22:23 |
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CGI722 |
lol it's cool, let me try thanks |
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schuster |
by all. |
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wizzyrea_ |
bye schuster |
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CGI722 |
same problem |
| 22:24 |
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CGI722 |
still get a 404 |
| 22:24 |
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CGI722 |
with all these options i could change these for a week! |
| 22:25 |
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brendan |
hi wizzyrea_ |
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CGI722 |
does this sound like a bug or maybe I just didn't setup the site correctly? |
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wizzyrea_ |
well usually it works |
| 22:26 |
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CGI722 |
i guess i could blow away all the data, and enter 1 book and see what happens |
| 22:27 |
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wizzyrea_ |
does your koha log say anything? |
| 22:30 |
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CGI722 |
well.... |
| 22:30 |
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CGI722 |
i'm not really sure if it's helpful...i don't see any debugging output, just ADD, MODIFY, DELETE entries |
| 22:31 |
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wizzyrea_ |
the log on the server? |
| 22:31 |
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wizzyrea_ |
or the log within the web interface? |
| 22:31 |
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CGI722 |
i'm checking the Koha Log Viewer |
| 22:32 |
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CGI722 |
I just installed this yesterday, so I'm pretty inexperienced with using it and troubleshooting |
| 22:33 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, I'd look at the koha log on the server; I can't remember what the default standard install location for it is, brendan probably knows though |
| 22:33 |
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wizzyrea_ |
<- can only keep so much in her mind at once |
| 22:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
you could try a locate koha-error_log |
| 22:35 |
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CGI722 |
in var logs |
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wizzyrea_ |
then tail -f /path/to/koha-error_log |
| 22:35 |
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CGI722 |
i see it, they are quite large |
| 22:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
is this public on the internet? Could we look at it? |
| 22:36 |
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CGI722 |
its internal right now |
| 22:36 |
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brendan |
it's something like koha/var/log |
| 22:37 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, standard install I think is /var/log/koha/koha-error_log or somesuch |
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wizzyrea_ |
but I didn't know for sure |
| 22:37 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
doesn't do it that way, usually |
| 22:38 |
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CGI722 |
looks like i got a perl backtrace |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea_ |
you can paste it here |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea_ |
http://paste.workbuffer.org/ |
| 22:39 |
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wizzyrea_ |
just be sure to set your channel :) |
| 22:39 |
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pastebot |
"CGI722" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "backtrace from a query that gets a 404" (174 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 |
| 22:40 |
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CGI722 |
sweet |
| 22:40 |
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CGI722 |
not sure what i'm looking at though |
| 22:41 |
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brendan |
wizzyrea_ could just be an indexing issue |
| 22:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
doesn't usually 404 on that though, at least I've never seen that |
| 22:41 |
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CGI722 |
i did try a reindex |
| 22:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
and that wouldn't explain why they can find one item, but the 2nd doesn't show up |
| 22:41 |
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brendan |
ok sorry distracted and off on another window :) |
| 22:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
or, it stops showing on the 2nd |
| 22:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
sok :) |
| 22:41 |
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CGI722 |
i tried a reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -a -v |
| 22:42 |
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CGI722 |
i tried this too, took longer, rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v |
| 22:43 |
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CGI722 |
would an incompatibility with a perl module cause this? I had to install quite a few of these to get the install to work |
| 22:43 |
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CGI722 |
i just used cpan to install them, let it handle the dependencies |
| 22:45 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hrm |
| 22:46 |
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CGI722 |
think trying the 3.2.0 alpha would be worth a shot? or is that just a waste of time/ |
| 22:47 |
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wizzyrea_ |
centOS... hmmm... |
| 22:47 |
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wizzyrea_ |
are you married to centOS? |
| 22:48 |
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CGI722 |
nope |
| 22:48 |
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wizzyrea_ |
it really works the very best on debian |
| 22:48 |
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CGI722 |
ok |
| 22:48 |
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CGI722 |
i can redo the install on a debian vm |
| 22:48 |
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CGI722 |
i should be able to keep the data intact yes? |
| 22:48 |
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CGI722 |
as long as i install the same releaseA? |
| 22:48 |
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wizzyrea_ |
in theory, yea |
| 22:48 |
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wizzyrea_ |
(most likely :)) |
| 22:49 |
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CGI722 |
haha gotcha |
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* wizzyrea_ |
hates to commit to statements like that |
| 22:49 |
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wizzyrea_ |
;) |
| 22:49 |
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CGI722 |
i'm going to cut and paste that and hold you to it |
| 22:49 |
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wizzyrea_ |
Nooooo! |
| 22:49 |
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CGI722 |
jk |
| 22:49 |
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CGI722 |
i will give that a shot |
| 22:49 |
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CGI722 |
thanks for the help! |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea_ |
the weekend is rough time to get folks, but come sunday/monday people will be around again |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea_ |
sure thing |
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CGI722 |
ok, appreciate it |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea_ |
let us know how it turns out :) |
| 22:50 |
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CGI722 |
will do |
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