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chris_n |
wow, koha 1.2.3... that's ancient history :-) |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is -2.0�C (9:21 PM EST on February 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
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braedon|work |
chris_n: how ancient exactly? (approximately) |
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chris_n |
close to 10 years I'd imagine |
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chris |
not quite |
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chris |
december 2002 |
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chris |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]docs/history.txt; |
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richard |
chris, how's your throat? |
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chris |
getting better, as long as i keep taking the painkillers its ok |
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chris_n |
chris: rekon that fellow will be able to upgrade? |
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chris |
eventually yes |
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chris |
but i doubt he can go 1.2.3 to 2.2.9 |
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chris |
probably 1.2.3 to 2.0.0 to 2.2.9 to 3.0.0 to whatever |
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chris |
id certainly try upgrading one major version at a time |
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chris_n |
nice catch braedon|work; patch submitted |
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chris_n |
g'night #koha |
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Schuster |
chris_n thanks for the graphics::magick stuff. That still needs to be fixed someplace in the install. |
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braedon|home |
wait, i (or my work alter ego) caught something? |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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braedon|home |
evening Ropuch |
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chris |
hi all |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris |
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Amit |
hi all |
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Ropuch |
Hi Amit |
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Amit |
heya Ropuch |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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Ropuch |
Morning kf |
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kf |
hi Ropuch |
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Amit |
heya kf |
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kf |
hm, I have a yellow empty error box in 3.2 circ :( |
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kf |
dont know why, dont know what to write in my bug report *sigh* |
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magnus |
kf: do you know what you were doing when you got it? |
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kf |
checking out a book |
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kf |
testing notices in our production system and head |
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kf |
configuration should be the same, just checked again |
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kf |
works fine in 3.1.61 |
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kf |
does not work in 3.2 - perhaps its because the user has overdues, but I schould get the yes/no at least |
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kf |
i suspect bug 4036 |
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kf |
lazy munin :) |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4�C (9:59 AM CET on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
@bug 4036 |
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munin |
kf: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
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magnus |
hm, looks like bugs.koha.org has some problems |
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kf |
good morning paul_p |
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kf |
works fine for me |
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kf |
im not sure a patch was sent for this bug |
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magnus |
bug 4036 |
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kf |
munin still sleeping? |
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munin |
kf: Error: "still" is not a valid command. |
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chris |
AAAAAC |
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kf |
? |
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kf |
good morning chris |
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kf |
sleeping on your keyboard? :) |
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chris |
my cat walking on it |
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chris |
and now im going to sleep |
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kf |
sleep well :) |
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Ropuch |
chris: how was your day in work? It was the first one after surgery afair? |
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CGI231 |
Hello to all.. |
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CGI231 |
I am having a problem in my Koha system.. |
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CGI231 |
can any one help me. |
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CGI231 |
?? |
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nahuel |
don't ask to ask :) |
| 10:15 |
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nahuel |
ask, if someone have the answer, you'll have an answer |
| 10:16 |
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CGI231 |
I have included 15 target Z39.50 Servers |
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CGI231 |
all were working well a few days back. |
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CGI231 |
but now getting error. Error 500. |
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nahuel |
did you looked in your logfiles? |
| 10:17 |
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CGI231 |
means error log? |
| 10:17 |
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nahuel |
yep |
| 10:17 |
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CGI231 |
If i am selecting less libraries say 8.the system is fine. |
| 10:18 |
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CGI231 |
as number increase it shows error. |
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CGI231 |
OK let me check error log. |
| 10:20 |
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CGI231 |
but I think the problem is because of slow searching speed. |
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nahuel |
Ah |
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nahuel |
you should increase your timeout in apache configuration |
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CGI231 |
how to do that? |
| 10:21 |
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CGI231 |
on my PC or on Koha Server?? |
| 10:25 |
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nahuel |
on koha server |
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CGI231 |
OK. |
| 10:26 |
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CGI231 |
But I dont know how to do that.. |
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nahuel |
ask the person who installed koha |
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CGI231 |
OK. Thanks. |
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chris_n` |
@later tell Schuster: yeah, it needs to make it into the INSTALL.* files |
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munin |
chris_n`: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt_ |
good morning |
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gmcharlt |
does anybody know of good children's catalog skins for Koha? |
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Ropuch |
Hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi Ropuch |
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bigbrovar |
am currently running koha-3.0.5 is there a way i can upgrade to koha3.0.5 without doing a reinstall from scratch |
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gmcharlt |
bigbrovar: upgrade from what to what? :) |
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bigbrovar |
oh sorry from koha-3.0.2 |
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bigbrovar |
gmcharlt: from koha-3.0.2 |
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gmcharlt |
bigbrovar: sure - the upgrade instructions in the INSTALL should work fine |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log; make; make test; sudo make upgrade |
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gmcharlt |
back up everything before you do it, of course |
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owen |
Hello #koha |
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Ropuch |
Hi owen |
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bigbrovar |
gmcharlt: thanks |
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gmcharlt |
good morning owen |
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gmcharlt |
owen: do you know of any good kiddie-OPAC skins out in the wild? |
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owen |
I sure don't |
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owen |
YacPac never went anywhere did it? |
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gmcharlt |
I not be the one to ask |
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gmcharlt |
I haven't seen any more YakPacs showing up in the wild, but I haven't been looking for them either |
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* owen |
isn't sure making an OPAC look childlike is going to help kids use it |
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* gmcharlt |
doesn't think so either, but that doesn't stop library's from asking for one |
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gmcharlt |
some things that may be of actual use would be large fonts, easy creation of precoordinated searches (e.g., click here to get books on Dinosaurs), and scoping to juvenile materials |
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gmcharlt |
but thinks like a cutsey interface leave me cold |
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owen |
It'd be a great subject for a controlled study |
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gmcharlt |
agreed |
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collum |
Just did a google search on kid's opac |
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collum |
There are some studies. |
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collum |
All the opac's that I have seen have been based on CARL's model, from many year's ago. |
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collum |
http://ipac.kentonlibrary.org:[…]ue&startover=true |
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collum |
I asked our Virtual Librarian if we gather usage stats on it. We don't. |
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gmcharlt |
precoordinated search links: check |
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gmcharlt |
scoping: doesn't look like it (not that I'm a fan of sticking kids into a ghetto, either) |
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gmcharlt |
awards: yes |
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gmcharlt |
recent awards: no (who knew that ALA stopped awarding the Newbery in 2002 ;) ) |
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collum |
That's probably our fault. :) |
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collum |
Very labor intensive interface. |
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nengard |
gmcharlt, i didn't know ... do you know why? |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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gmcharlt |
meep - I was joking |
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gmcharlt |
ALA is still giving the Newbery |
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nengard |
oh :( don't play with me on monday morning :) hehe |
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* gmcharlt |
stomps on the bad meme |
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* gmcharlt |
gives nengard some caffeine |
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nengard |
the news just said we can expect another foot of snow on top of the foot+ we have on the ground right now!!! |
| 13:38 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - i need theraflu - not caffine :( but I have a PT appt in 30 min and have to drive so i have to wait |
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* collum |
thinks that since no one has ever pointed out the Newbery Awards to us, it is an indication of usage. |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, if somebody had noticed, you would have gotten a lot of angry Neil Gaiman fans protesting at the library or something |
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nengard |
anyone want to smile this monday morning? yesterday my girl was so goofy - she went outside and decided the snow looked like a comfortable place to relax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/4336866823/ |
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owen |
Looks like it took a lot of effort to get that far. No wonder she needed a rest! |
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nengard |
hehe - yeah - both of them had to hop to get through the snow - it was at their backs |
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nengard |
okay - time to run out - i'll be back later - oh and sorry for filling all your mailboxes this weekend :) I was on a bug closing/commenting roll :) hehe |
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* collum |
just added the 2002 Newbury title. It took 10 minutes and I have to reboot the server to see it. Done for the day. |
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owen |
nengard++ for filling my mailbox this weekend. Good work! |
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hdl_laptop |
yeah... |
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amadan |
Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, ikeep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make. |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell nengard note sysprefs for bug 3738 need to be added to new interface, in case jwager doesn't get to it first |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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amadan |
can anyone help |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, nengard is more likely to get to it before I do.... |
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amadan |
Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, ikeep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make. Can anyone please help, I'm stuck? |
| 14:24 |
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amadan |
Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, i keep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make. Can anyone please help |
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owen |
amadan: Is that the whole error? |
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amadan |
yep |
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imp |
should i fill a bug report for this: http://pastebin.ca/1789468 (had the problems while installing) |
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amadan |
Could anyone please inform me where the koha install logfile is located |
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amadan |
basically make stops at /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib |
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schuster |
For what it is worth - the kids pac discussion - for Kinder - 2nd grade where they can't spell it sure helps them to have the picture driven interface. |
| 14:47 |
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schuster |
School perspective... |
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schuster |
I think it would be really easy to build an interface and I've been pondering it, but the problem is we need it to "automatically" limit to the location as well. Showing a kindergartener ALL the Dinosaur books as ALL the locations is overwhelming. |
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schuster |
I've been poking Owen on a few tips tricks, but we havn't come up with an elegant solution yet. He has helped me some using the Multi-pac setup which allowed for local default browsing based on the URL. |
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schuster |
I'm waiting for 3.2 before I do much with that owen FYI. |
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imp |
schuster: is it possible load images inside the translations? |
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schuster |
Just build a template - yes Owen and I have done something along those lines. let me see if I still have a live page. |
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imp |
(so you could just use the normal translations to get the pictograms will be displayed this way) |
| 14:52 |
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amadan |
I tried running the fix-perl-path.PL file but it says "no such file or directory at line 64. Could any one help please |
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imp |
amadan: =head2 BASIC USAGE |
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imp |
perl fix-perl-path.PL /absolute/path/to/foo |
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imp |
(where the path is the path to your perl executeable i guess) |
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amadan |
Thanks imp, I tried but still getting " /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib" during make at which it stops. Can anyone help? |
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amadan |
This problem stops below the line "Manifying blib/man3/serials::member-search.3pm" |
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* chris_n |
wonders why he cannot write perfect code the first time every time ;-) |
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owen |
chris_n: Voodoo curse? |
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* wizzyrea |
is torn between telling you no one is perfect and (teasingly) mocking you for not being perfect |
| 15:40 |
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wizzyrea |
mmm, no one is perfect. Some of the best inventions came from accidents. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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* jwagner |
is kinder and suggests that the perfect code talent was hogged up by the first on the scene. Not mentioning names, chris.... |
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gmcharlt |
owen++ # I ought to make your life easier by killfiling patches that don't declare XHTML in their templates ;) |
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* owen |
hasta keep busy somehow |
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wizzyrea |
oh speaking of xhtml: there is something funny about the rss feeds in the catalog. I think I talked to chris about it a long time ago but they don't validate? |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
and xml |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
too |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
>.< |
| 15:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
is also not perfect |
| 15:43 |
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wizzyrea |
but you all knew that |
| 15:43 |
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chris_n |
lol :-) |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell Ropuch ooh, send it to me! |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
duly filed under "laters that could mean lots of things" |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: I'm here |
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Ropuch |
;> |
| 16:07 |
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wizzyrea |
Hooray! |
| 16:09 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: http://bagno.be/pliki/wp_kohadocs.zip |
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Ropuch |
Consider it working beta |
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wizzyrea |
bless you good sir |
| 16:09 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm beyond excited :) |
| 16:10 |
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Ropuch |
I talked to chris, maybe he will rewrite this in proper way |
| 16:10 |
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Ropuch |
Main flaw for now is that all html is displayed into wp content part, along with <xhtml> and meta tags |
| 16:11 |
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Ropuch |
But - as I said - it's working ;> |
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owen |
Is there a way to search for a particular string in the git history of a single file? |
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wizzyrea |
Ropuch: working on it now <fingers crossed> |
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wizzyrea |
happiness |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: If something is not clear, I;m here |
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wizzyrea |
I have confidence that it will work ^.^ |
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Ropuch |
I haven't tested it with friendly urls |
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Ropuch |
...and $_REQUEST should be sanitize, and I;m stop complaining ;> |
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gmcharlt |
owen: search how? would git blame file + grep do what you need? |
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owen |
gmcharlt: I'm trying to find out when something disappeared from a particular file |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: git log -Syourstring |
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hdl_laptop |
pickckaxe |
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gmcharlt |
owen: if you're referring to the file I think you are, commit 8802bbf5fe6 seems to be the culprit |
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wizzyrea |
ropuch: docbook-utils is available from where? |
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wizzyrea |
nm, google lol |
| 16:43 |
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owen |
Hmmm... Anyway: Bug 4137 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4137 normal, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, OPACViewOthersSuggestions preference doesn't work |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: apt-get install docbook-utils for me, but I don't know what system you're using |
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wizzyrea |
debian :) |
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wizzyrea |
Ropuch: this might be a dumb question... I need to init the git repo for kohadocs before doing the update? |
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gmcharlt |
owen: the fact that OPACViewOthersSuggestions only appears in the template is not necessarily an issue (although it is, since it ought to also be enforced by opac-suggestions.pl to prevent a back door into seeing other people's suggestions) |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: yes |
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wizzyrea |
kk |
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gmcharlt |
but the suggestions interface seems buggy in general |
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gmcharlt |
I also confirm that in any event, that syspref doesn't seem to work for me either |
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owen |
gmcharlt: I'm assuming that the titles in suggestions_loop are already filtered on the logged-in user's borrowernumber |
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kf |
bye #koha |
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Ropuch |
Hello nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
you're right, not sure it works with pretty URLS |
| 17:08 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: about? |
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wizzyrea |
BUT |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
closer ever still |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
and it looks quite lovely |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: i am |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: can you comment on 943aa38564c73 ? this patch can't stay in as is; a real fix is needed rather than simply commenting it out |
| 17:09 |
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gmcharlt |
the feature in question was sponsored by schuster 's school, btw |
| 17:10 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: I'm looking into it |
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Ropuch |
Just give me some time ;> |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
for this, you can have all the time you need |
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hdl_laptop |
So it would be VERY unpleasant for them to find that feature broken. |
| 17:12 |
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hdl_laptop |
I agree. |
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wizzyrea |
Ropuch: I found the problem I think |
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wizzyrea |
rawr, it works |
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wizzyrea |
nengard |
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nengard |
wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
very very good work ropuch |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ |
| 17:13 |
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Ropuch |
Just a working concept |
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nengard |
awesome!!! |
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wizzyrea |
the CSS will need some tweaking I think |
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wizzyrea |
and i'm going to work on the templats |
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Ropuch |
And I insist that someone should rewrite it ;> |
| 17:14 |
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nengard |
also the links don't work |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
they should now |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
at least, they do for me |
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nengard |
nope ... |
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nengard |
they all go to the homepage |
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nengard |
not the manual pages |
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wizzyrea |
mmm you need to shift+refresh |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
b/c it works for me |
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nengard |
did - will do again |
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wizzyrea |
if your URL doesn't say page_id=135 then you don't have the most current |
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wizzyrea |
log in |
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nengard |
nope - when i mouse over they read the right thing |
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wizzyrea |
it's cached |
| 17:15 |
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nengard |
but clicking won't work |
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nengard |
my links say: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]d=3&ch=c46#AEN518 |
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wizzyrea |
odd, it works for me |
| 17:16 |
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wizzyrea |
logged in, logged out |
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wizzyrea |
it works |
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hdl_laptop |
Problem is that as it is now, use of extended patron information is a major performance killer. we should try and query first on extendedattributes |
| 17:16 |
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hdl_laptop |
and then query borrowers on borrowernumbers |
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nengard |
okay very weird - i'm logged in and now i can't get to the page - now all i see is the homepage no matter what url i'm at - i'm restarting |
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wizzyrea |
?! |
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wizzyrea |
lol, can anybody duplicate that? |
| 17:18 |
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wizzyrea |
heh, yea, 135, not 3 |
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nengard |
okay i restarted FF and the page loads - but the links stil only take me to the homepage |
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owen |
I get the same thing |
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wizzyrea |
ok, turned off caching, does it work now? |
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wizzyrea |
i think it cached the wrong thing |
| 17:20 |
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* jwagner |
shrieks, sighs |
| 17:20 |
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jwagner |
The weather forecaster just muttered something about another 6-12 inches of snow tomorrow night here.... |
| 17:20 |
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owen |
Now http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ takes me to the home page |
| 17:20 |
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imp |
jwagner: how much snow do you already have? |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, go to the home page |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
click documentation |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: y'know, I wonder if an index on borrower_attributes.attribute and, more importantly, authorised_values.authorised_value would be sufficient |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
click 3.2 manual (I have some cleanup to do here) |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
does that work? |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
do the links from there work |
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gmcharlt |
in fact, I suspect that adding the latter index would suffice |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
I had to turn off pretty urls |
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jwagner |
imp, I got between 18-24 inches depending on where I measure. Other parts of the area got 30 inches or more. |
| 17:22 |
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imp |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
so the reason you are getting the home page is you are trying to use the pretty permalinks |
| 17:22 |
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hdl_laptop |
mmm would require also some indexes on attributetypes. |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
not the page_id nonsense |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - i don't see a link on the docuemntation page :( geeze |
| 17:22 |
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nengard |
is it just me? |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
it's just you |
| 17:22 |
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nengard |
oh found it |
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nengard |
due |
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nengard |
duh |
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Ropuch |
works |
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nengard |
works!!!! |
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nengard |
woo hoo |
| 17:23 |
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Ropuch |
;) |
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hdl_laptop |
fact is that attribute could/should also be a text and not a varchar. |
| 17:23 |
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* wizzyrea |
breathes finally. Stupid technology. |
| 17:23 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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nengard |
Important and Tip need styles - they need to stand out |
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nengard |
and are the images there? |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: well, it isn't yet (a text) |
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Ropuch |
nengard: it's just a protoype of autogaick git pul & publish |
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nengard |
got it |
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Ropuch |
automagick |
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wizzyrea |
which is amazing |
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nengard |
we need to do a pull of it as PDF as well - when we figure this out |
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nengard |
and I agree wizzyrea |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: we could include some custom style in update_docs |
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wizzyrea |
yep yep |
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Ropuch |
PDF is not a problem |
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Ropuch |
just 1-2 lines |
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Ropuch |
docbook2pdf ;> |
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Ropuch |
It's in docbook-utils too |
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wizzyrea |
oh woot |
| 17:26 |
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Ropuch |
Along with rtf, man, tex... ;> |
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Ropuch |
Ok, I'll get some tea and look into friendly urls |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/?page_id=123 |
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nengard |
wizzyrea and Ropuch, we need links to all of the manuals - not just English - BibLibre is working on a French translation and there are folders there for other languages as well |
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nengard |
but this works!!! |
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nengard |
we just need to make it searchable and printable |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: images path must be broken |
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Ropuch |
And the code doesn't look like it was parse through tidy |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm guessing I might need to install tidy |
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wizzyrea |
actually |
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wizzyrea |
apt-get install.... ? |
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wizzyrea |
which package |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: it looks like it wouldn't be too bad to use this to generate all of the different languages, not just EN |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: tidy ;> |
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wizzyrea |
HA |
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* wizzyrea |
feels dumb |
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nengard |
wizzyrea awesome |
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Ropuch |
YOUR_SITE_PATH/?variable_name=variable_value |
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Ropuch |
Maybe that will work |
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nengard |
not dumb!! never dumb!! it's still monday - that's my excuse today :) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
ok, one more time for the boys and girls in the back |
| 17:33 |
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Ropuch |
instead of ?page_id=X&ch=foo ?ch=foo will work with friendly urls |
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wizzyrea |
is this important? openjade:/home/koha-community/public_html/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual.xml:17511:36:E: non SGML character number 152 |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
zillions of these errors on update |
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Ropuch |
Yup |
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wizzyrea |
yup it's important or yup it generates lots of errors? |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
ropuch this is so exciting |
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Ropuch |
even more to me, as don't know php or wordpress ;> |
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wizzyrea |
$docu = preg_replace($pattern, '"?ch=\1\2"', $docu); is what you were thinking? |
| 17:38 |
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Ropuch |
yes |
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schuster |
wizzyrea you speaking clingon again? |
| 17:38 |
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wizzyrea |
wp is kind of one of my tech pets. I like to pet it and feed it and call it george |
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Ropuch |
Heheh |
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wizzyrea |
schuster: maybe |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: what shuold i put into permalink setting to dupicate the one from koha-community? |
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Ropuch |
should |
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wizzyrea |
/%postname%/ |
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wizzyrea |
in custom |
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Ropuch |
It says I shuold update my .htaccess |
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Ropuch |
I'll ask some php/apache gurus, it should be easy to get it working with minor tweak to rewrite rules |
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chris |
morning |
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Ropuch |
Evening [; |
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jwagner |
Afternoon :-) |
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jwagner |
How are you feeling, chris? |
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chris |
better every day |
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wizzyrea |
yea, all that means is that you need ot have a .htaccess file in the root of your wp install |
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wizzyrea |
and that it's writable (at elast temporarily) by the webserver |
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wizzyrea |
and your host would need to have AllowOverride on |
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wizzyrea |
chris's_immune_system++ |
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wizzyrea |
modern_medicine++ |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
students_with_iceblock_sticks-- |
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wizzyrea |
yes that is not so cool |
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* jwagner |
is going to venture out & see if I can reach a grocery store, before the NEXT storm comes in. Back later.... |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/273357 |
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Ropuch |
I feel our solution lurks there ;> |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ will look |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: see bug 4139 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4139 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, overdue notice generation performance issue |
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* wizzyrea |
knows enough to be dangerous (and occasionally smart-ish) |
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gmcharlt |
if you've got a large patron data and loan dataset that you're willing to let me play with, that woudl help |
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gmcharlt |
otherwise, I'll just mock stuff up |
| 17:54 |
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gmcharlt |
for the performance fix |
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owen |
Can anyone tell me what the "checked" status for suggestions means? |
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owen |
"Checked" seems like a strange interim status between "Pending" and a real resolution ("Accepted" or "Rejected.") |
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owen |
If so, why is it necessary? |
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chris |
yeah thats a weird one |
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gmcharlt |
we know we want to order it, but not sure if it's available yet? |
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* gmcharlt |
is guessing |
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wizzyrea |
maybe "I checked, we do/don't have that" |
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sekjal |
I guess it's to separate "we haven't looked at your request yet" to "we've looked at it, but haven't decided" |
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wizzyrea |
or "I acknowledge that yes, indeed, there is a suggestion here" |
| 18:02 |
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wizzyrea |
what he said |
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wizzyrea |
to differentiate between brand new suggestions and ones that you hven't decided on yet? |
| 18:02 |
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wizzyrea |
it is weird |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.9�C (11:55 AM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday... |
| 18:02 |
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gmcharlt |
doesn't seem that helpful to a patron, regardless |
| 18:03 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
| 18:03 |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
tshirt again today |
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gmcharlt |
likely a bit of acq workflow stuff that is useful to the acq department but which should be hidden from patron |
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* moodaepo |
thinks chris is a show off : ) |
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chris |
heh |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (12:42 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
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owen |
Perhaps it reflects a workflow where one librarian checks a suggestion for accuracy before another librarian makes the real decision? |
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sekjal |
If we set up the status messages to be configurable, and have both staff client and OPAC options, we could let each library decide just how much info they want to give about the decisions process |
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* chris_n |
greets chris |
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nengard |
chris - no fair :( we're looking at another foot of snow tomorrow!! |
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sekjal |
and with enough generalization, this status model could be extended to bibs and items, so the whole workflow from acquistions to circulation is customizable |
| 18:09 |
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chris |
http://www.computerworld.com.a[…]s_33_000_charity/ |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: $docu = preg_replace($pattern, '"?ch=\1\2"', $docu); seems to be the right way, I can acces subpages from documentation main page |
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Ropuch |
But due to my lame regexp some urls are transforemd into <a href="x2758" |
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wizzyrea |
yea, i had noticed that |
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Ropuch |
You...noticed...my..*lame*...regexp |
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* Ropuch |
cries ;> |
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wizzyrea |
no lol |
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wizzyrea |
I had noticed the wierd url's :) |
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* wizzyrea |
comforts ropuch |
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wizzyrea |
don't cry |
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Ropuch |
Unfortunatelly that's beyond my skills |
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wizzyrea |
you got much further than I ever would have |
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Ropuch |
It's because I;m solving problem with analog approach ;> |
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wizzyrea |
your process seems very similar to mine ;) |
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Ropuch |
hehe |
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Ropuch |
I really like solving problems, but in the end I know what steps should be taken, but can't do it myself due to lack of programming skills |
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Ropuch |
And I sometimes quit after half-day fight with something like simple regexp ;> |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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chris |
ok time to get kahu ready for kindegarten and me ready for work |
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rhcl |
anybody on chat from Montana? |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell hdl_laptop work on 3.0.x->3.2.0 reconiliation - question: do you expect any more DBrevs after 3.00.06.005? |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell matts could you prepare and submit patches fro MT2631 (OPACviewISBD, etc.) for HEAD? |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell hdl_laptop regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c - what is its motivation? now that we have OPAC and staff XSLT display in HEAD that is sensitive to marcflavour, why force user to figure out paths to XSLT files manually? |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.9�C (11:17 AM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
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braedon|work |
Ropuch: is that regex still giving you trouble? |
| 19:25 |
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schuster |
question - is the table sorter on the pl or the tmpl? |
| 19:25 |
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Ropuch |
braedon|work: ask wizzyrea, maybe she fixed it already |
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schuster |
@wunder 75035 |
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munin |
schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 4.3�C (1:22 PM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:25 |
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wizzyrea |
ya, it's still troublesome, I just got back from lunch :) |
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braedon|work |
kk. If it isn't sorted by my lunch (4 hours or so), if you would like i can take a squiz at it. |
| 19:27 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt are we pushing rotating collections to 3.4? |
| 19:27 |
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Ropuch |
braedon|work: http://bagno.be/pliki/wp_kohadocs.zip |
| 19:28 |
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Ropuch |
File update_docs is just a concept, and regexp, well, let's say I know nothing about them |
| 19:29 |
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Ropuch |
Tidy putput isn't perfect, so sometimes lines are broken |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: yes |
| 19:29 |
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nengard |
thanks - will remove from manual |
| 19:29 |
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Ropuch |
We want to extract the content from between <body></body> and change some <a href="foo" |
| 19:30 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, the images bit doesn't seem to be working, even with the right paths |
| 19:30 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: hm |
| 19:30 |
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wizzyrea |
does it work on yours ropuch? |
| 19:30 |
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Ropuch |
Yup |
| 19:30 |
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wizzyrea |
odd |
| 19:31 |
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Ropuch |
Can you give me the url to an image from documentation directory? |
| 19:32 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]oging/newitem.png |
| 19:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I put in wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/images in the script, but it doesn't like it |
| 19:33 |
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Ropuch |
try /wp-content |
| 19:33 |
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wizzyrea |
ooh |
| 19:33 |
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wizzyrea |
trying... |
| 19:34 |
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owen |
nengard: About Bug 4092... |
| 19:34 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, ASSIGNED, suggestion date missing from manage suggestions |
| 19:34 |
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nengard |
? |
| 19:34 |
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owen |
Check the structure of your suggestions table |
| 19:34 |
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owen |
I had to correct mine in order for that bug to be fixed |
| 19:35 |
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owen |
Look for suggesteddate and manageddate |
| 19:36 |
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nengard |
owen - if you had to fix your table manually, then we need a db update for that? right? |
| 19:36 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm that borks the output in such a way that http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ doesn't even have anything |
| 19:36 |
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owen |
nengard: updatedatabase.pl has a section which adds those columns |
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owen |
"ADD suggesteddate date default NULL," |
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owen |
"ADD manageddate date default NULL," |
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nengard |
hmmm - okay - off to check and see if i have those |
| 19:37 |
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owen |
I'm not sure why it didn't update my install. |
| 19:37 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: escape slash like \/? |
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wizzyrea |
Ah! |
| 19:38 |
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Ropuch |
Just guessing |
| 19:38 |
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nengard |
owen - okay - i have them - so they did update ... |
| 19:38 |
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nengard |
but i still don't see them in my display |
| 19:38 |
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nengard |
even after adding a new suggestion today |
| 19:38 |
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Ropuch |
Let's ask someone to rewrite update_docs in any language he/she feels proficient with |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
a shell script would actually do it nicely I think |
| 19:39 |
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wizzyrea |
I see what you're doing here |
| 19:39 |
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wizzyrea |
it wouldn't plug in directly from WP but it could be run in a cron |
| 19:39 |
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Ropuch |
I tried to write in bash, but after painfull hour i gave up |
| 19:39 |
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owen |
Strange, nengard, I thought that would have been the culprit. |
| 19:39 |
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owen |
I'm seeing those dates fine now |
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Ropuch |
In the end I wanted a working concept |
| 19:40 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: I suggested cron in readme |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea |
:D it definitely works (I saw that) |
| 19:41 |
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wizzyrea |
$docu = str_replace('src="images', 'src="kohadocs/images', $matches[1]); is the line I"m futzing with that breaks the output |
| 19:41 |
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Ropuch |
I troed another wp plugin Include html, but it imorts every thml file s post |
| 19:41 |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell hdl_laptop why are there serveral DBrevs in 3.00.04.* that seem to duplicate earlier DBrevs in updatedatabase30.pl? |
| 19:41 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:41 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: i had it commented |
| 19:41 |
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nengard |
owen - i have all kinds of things going wrong lately that make no sense ... can anyone else confirm that Bug 4092 is resolved in HEAD? |
| 19:41 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, ASSIGNED, suggestion date missing from manage suggestions |
| 19:41 |
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wizzyrea |
OHH |
| 19:41 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, indeed you did |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
silly wizzy. |
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chris |
back |
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wizzyrea |
derr. I was not paying attention, sorry |
| 19:44 |
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chris |
hmm i dunno what to say to alison |
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richard |
yeah, it's a hard one to phrase right |
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jwagner |
nengard, online? |
| 19:48 |
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nengard |
here |
| 19:48 |
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owen |
chris_n around? |
| 19:48 |
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chris_n |
here |
| 19:48 |
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jwagner |
Thanks for doing that syspref on the selfcheck -- I haven't even seen the new editor yet, let alone figured out how to do something with it. |
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owen |
Hi chris_n, I have a question about labels. Would it make sense to you that a label batch might fail to be created if there were duplicate barcodes in the batch? |
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nengard |
jwagner - i learned how to do things with it by reading other people's patches :) so if you check out some of the recent patches that might help |
| 19:49 |
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jwagner |
nengard, not until I get an updated system in hand to play with :-) |
| 19:49 |
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nengard |
:) |
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owen |
chris_n: We observed this in 3.01.00.061 |
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chris_n |
owen: there are supposed to be checks in the marc editor for barcode dups and items.barcode is a unique key which should prevent duplicate barcodes in any case |
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chris_n |
opps |
| 19:53 |
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chris_n |
you mean two labels for the same item? |
| 19:53 |
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chris_n |
it should not fail for that |
| 19:53 |
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chris_n |
if it does, it is a bug |
| 19:53 |
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owen |
chris_n: This is after a MARC import |
| 19:54 |
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chris_n |
I do not understand how you can have two items with the same barcode |
| 19:54 |
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chris_n |
the items table will not allow it |
| 19:56 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: hdl_laptop: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]_3.2.0_db_updates |
| 19:57 |
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owen |
chris_n: Okay, I'm going on what my cataloger told me so I may not have the story straight. Thanks. |
| 19:58 |
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chris_n |
owen: I can imagine there might be a potential issue if the bulk import generates a batch of labels from some source other than the items table |
| 19:59 |
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chris_n |
in which case a bug should be opened for the import tool |
| 19:59 |
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owen |
chris_n: Good point |
| 19:59 |
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jwagner |
owen, I wonder if the batch is in the reservoir with barcodes in 952 fields, but not yet imported. I don't think it would block dup barcodes in that case, would it? |
| 19:59 |
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jwagner |
If you've staged the import, but not yet loaded it into the catalog? |
| 19:59 |
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chris_n |
really label batches should be generated from the items table only |
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chris_n |
that will ensure relational integrity |
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* chris_n |
believes as many relationships as possible should be enforced by the db |
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* jwagner |
asks if chris_n is going into marriage counseling? |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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chris_n |
if it were really only that simple ;-) |
| 20:01 |
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owen |
"I tried to ask a girl out and MySQL told me PERMISSION DENIED" |
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chris |
heh |
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jwagner |
I wonder what a SQL query is for a stable relationship? |
| 20:03 |
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chris |
right, that email was the best i could do |
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wizzyrea |
SELECT patience, understanding FROM personality WHERE objective=long-term-love |
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chris_n |
and obey all constraints |
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wizzyrea |
truf |
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rhcl |
and where objective NE marriage |
| 20:04 |
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wizzyrea |
lol, a bit jaded there rhcl? |
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rhcl |
Oh, just a bit...and this fully 15 years after... :) |
| 20:06 |
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wizzyrea |
lol, this is making me crazy: the paths look correct, if I put the path in, the images show up, but they won't come from the pages |
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* wizzyrea |
runs away screaming |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
| 20:06 |
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wizzyrea |
but I'm still a bit screamy |
| 20:07 |
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bigbrovar |
stupid me .. completely trashed my koha database.. I tot i did a backup well i didnt .. now I have to start it all from scatch ,, the good part is its not been deployed yet.. |
| 20:08 |
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bigbrovar |
would have to reinstall the server and do a fresh install though which is not as bad as it sounds. maybe I should use debian lenny instead of ubuntu this time around |
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wizzyrea |
debian++ |
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wizzyrea |
aw, and nengard isn't around. I was going to tell her that I got the images |
| 20:09 |
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rhcl |
OK, on behalf of someone else a question that I don't even understand... |
| 20:09 |
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rhcl |
Something about NSIP needed by OCLC for First Search so people can search the world database |
| 20:09 |
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wizzyrea |
(I'm done screaming) |
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rhcl |
Koha can do? |
| 20:10 |
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* chris_n |
takes out his ear plugs |
| 20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
Koha can talk SIP so I don't know why not |
| 20:10 |
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jwagner |
rhcl, which direction? Searching from Koha to Worldcat, or from Worldcat to Koha? |
| 20:10 |
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wizzyrea |
ha ha ha. |
| 20:10 |
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jwagner |
And if it's just searching, why not z39.50? |
| 20:10 |
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jwagner |
Are they wanting to update holdings in Worldcat, maybe? |
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rhcl |
From Worldcat to Koha (I think). Apparently if a patron is at home "The Database" needs NSIP for them to search WorldCat (FirstSearch) |
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jwagner |
Don't understand that one at all, but so far as I know, Koha is not yet NCIP compliant. Just SIP/SIP2 |
| 20:13 |
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schuster |
Sounds like an ILL question - I've been banging around in my head with that too... The State of Texas has adopted a new ILL version - but for it to be fully functional meaning patron requests without library intervention you would have to be NCIP compliant. |
| 20:14 |
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schuster |
Otherwise NON oclc members have to batch upload their collections to OCLC to be retrievable, but the library still has to initiate the request from my understanding as OCLC won't be able to verify the user to a library. |
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schuster |
There was discussion about openncip.org at one time, but it looks as though it died. |
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chris |
s/died/was killed through stupidity/ |
| 20:15 |
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jwagner |
OK, makes sense if it's ILL -- that would need to send/receive actions. Just searching should be fine with z39.50. |
| 20:15 |
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chris |
david fiander and others are willing to work on it again, as long as the person who killed it is no longer involved |
| 20:15 |
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chris |
so its just a matter of getting some heads together and getting it done |
| 20:16 |
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wizzyrea |
heads together, getting it done. I like these things. |
| 20:16 |
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rhcl |
OH, it's NCIP |
| 20:16 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's fairly safe to say the mentioned person won't be involved |
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chris |
yeah, i think so too |
| 20:18 |
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chris |
plus EG need it too, so there is good chance for collaboration |
| 20:18 |
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rhcl |
...none of which provides a complete access solution...The NCIP-based patron authentication feature...complements and supplement them |
| 20:18 |
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rhcl |
http://www.oclc.org/support/do[…]ipweb/default.htm |
| 20:19 |
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rhcl |
Apparently our patrons can't since we didn't buy an NCIP license |
| 20:20 |
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rhcl |
Yea yea, schuster is saying some of the same words as my TS manager over the partition |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
ropuch: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3116#AEN3119 |
| 20:30 |
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jwagner |
That brings up another idea, for someone's development creativity. It would be useful for Koha to be able to update a library's holdings in OCLC. In Unicorn, when you Smartport (z39.50) a record from OCLC, you have to option to update OCLC to say that you own a copy. |
| 20:30 |
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jwagner |
Dunno how the link to OCLC works, but.... |
| 20:31 |
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rhcl |
Yea, I know that my TS manager has to monthly manual uploads to OCLC |
| 20:31 |
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sekjal |
I have an idea for that |
| 20:31 |
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chris |
if it involves OCLC it will involve money |
| 20:31 |
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rhcl |
A 3-click semi-auto process would be great. |
| 20:31 |
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chris |
flowing in their direction |
| 20:31 |
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sekjal |
OCLC allows for holdings updates to be communicated via Z39.50 |
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sekjal |
it uses one of the extended service definitions for holdings updates |
| 20:33 |
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rhcl |
I think we have to pay a certain amount for each record we upload |
| 20:33 |
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jwagner |
sekjal, yes, I remember having to create 925/926 (I think) local fields for that update in Unicorn. |
| 20:33 |
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sekjal |
if ZOOM supported it, it would be a pretty straight-forward thing to write a script to automatically push all new/edited bibs on a nightly/weekly cron |
| 20:34 |
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jwagner |
Dunno that you'd want all of them. Maybe just new bibs with items? |
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hdl_laptop |
jwagner: therefore, we should separate items and biblios |
| 20:35 |
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sekjal |
the selection of which materials coud be up to local configuration |
| 20:36 |
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sekjal |
I have some pseudo code kicking around somewhere, but I never had time to work on developing it |
| 20:36 |
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jwagner |
Right -- you don't want to upload electronic resources, for example. No point. |
| 20:36 |
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jwagner |
Do other countries have an equivalent to OCLC that works the same way? Central holding database? |
| 20:36 |
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jwagner |
Would a similar function be useful outside the US? |
| 20:37 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: RT : <gmcharlt> work on 3.0.x->3.2.0 reconiliation - question: do you expect any more DBrevs after 3.00.06.005? = I don't think there would be any other DBrev |
| 20:38 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: RT <gmcharlt> regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c : Motivation is to be able to choose a customised stylesheet for an installation and not HAVE to edit the "official" stylesheet |
| 20:39 |
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sekjal |
if we connected the script to the Z39.50 profiles already in the system, we could do this kind of sync with any Z39.50 server that supported the extended service definitions |
| 20:39 |
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sekjal |
and if we set Koha up to support them, we'd have yet another way to pass data back and forth between systems |
| 20:43 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: RT <gmcharlt> regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c : In fact, for a multiple instance Code base, sharing the same stylesheet can lead to problems when you need to customize the stylesheet. |
| 20:45 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: why not use themes, then? |
| 20:46 |
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hdl_laptop |
would duplicate the whole templates only for one file. |
| 20:46 |
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hdl_laptop |
I donot think this adds much complexity. And much more flexible. |
| 20:47 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: whoa! |
| 20:47 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 20:48 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: next/previous link are still broken though |
| 20:48 |
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Ropuch |
But we're almost there :) |
| 20:48 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's my next challenge |
| 20:48 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 20:48 |
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Ropuch |
Hehe |
| 20:48 |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like they're just missing the .html on the end |
| 20:48 |
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Ropuch |
and ?ch= |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
Ah, yes, and that |
| 20:49 |
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Ropuch |
<link rel="?ch=NEXT" title="Basic Parameters" href="x2779" /> |
| 20:49 |
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Ropuch |
It's still regexp doing |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
don't laugh: the picture thing was permissions >.< |
| 20:50 |
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wizzyrea |
and this: http://screencast.com/t/MGU5MTAy |
| 20:51 |
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Ropuch |
<para>to Share - to copy, distribute and transmit the work</para> |
| 20:52 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: perhaps a little too much flexibility - not many other sysprefs requires knowing the internal path to intranet-tmpl |
| 20:52 |
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Ropuch |
It's xml part |
| 20:52 |
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gmcharlt |
at the very least, it could assume ./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/<theme>/<lang>/xslt |
| 20:52 |
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Ropuch |
We can do quick&dirty fix and relace it - either before docbook2html or afer |
| 20:53 |
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gmcharlt |
and I'd prefer that they new sysprefs, a la opaccolorstylesheet |
| 20:54 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: we are planning to make those preferences virtualhost parameters. |
| 20:54 |
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hdl_laptop |
/a la opacstylesheet/ |
| 20:54 |
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chris |
https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/packages |
| 20:54 |
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chris |
im gonna add the alpha here too |
| 20:55 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: would that be OK ? |
| 20:55 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: I believe that would be a question for a 3.4 RFC |
| 20:55 |
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chris_n |
Ropuch: what is your current regexp? |
| 20:57 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: so that enhancement would skip from 3.0.5 to 3.4 |
| 20:57 |
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gmcharlt |
no, something has to get done for 3.2, as I'm not intending to create regressions if I can avoid it |
| 20:57 |
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gmcharlt |
but the vhost parameters *would* be a 3.4 RC matter |
| 20:59 |
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hdl_laptop |
OK. |
| 20:59 |
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hdl_laptop |
Will do RFC. |
| 21:03 |
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Ropuch |
chris_n: wizzyrea is one to ask - it's her baby now ;> |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
i haven't touched the regexp |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
ropuch: i have rather adopted it |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
you can have visitation rights though ^.^ |
| 21:04 |
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Ropuch |
wizzyrea: but you the one to report changes to ;> |
| 21:04 |
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Ropuch |
heheh |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
truth |
| 21:04 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: what's the regexp and what is an example of before and after? |
| 21:04 |
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Ropuch |
Ok, fine I'll take sundays ;> |
| 21:06 |
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wizzyrea |
one moment chris_n |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: bbiab... I'll check the buffer |
| 21:09 |
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wizzyrea |
righty o |
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chris |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=14515 <-- hehe |
| 21:17 |
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chris |
that reads to me like |
| 21:17 |
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chris |
"We announced it only for the publicity and we don't intend to ever actually do it" |
| 21:17 |
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brendan |
re: relais |
| 21:18 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: their intentions were better than that |
| 21:19 |
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chris |
ah yeah of course |
| 21:20 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 21:20 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.3�C (1:17 PM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:21 |
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chris |
cloudy here brendan, you might have me beat |
| 21:21 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
| 21:21 |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
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gmcharlt |
and brendan wins by a nose |
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brendan |
I'll take that as a win - for about another hour - then I think the win will switch to chris |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20740 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.9�C (4:19 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon Tuesday to 7 PM EST Wednesday... |
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jwagner |
Harrumph. |
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hdl_laptop |
well good night folks |
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chris |
night hdl_laptop |
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sekjal |
goodnight, hdl_laptop |
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brendan |
night hdl_laptop |
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Jo |
hi all |
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Jo |
Koha COn meeting now? |
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chris |
dont think so |
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Jo |
mmmm |
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Jo |
ok .... |
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chris |
lemme check the calendar |
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Jo |
its in my diary as today at 11am |
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Jo |
how odd? |
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chris |
nope |
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chris |
its next monday |
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Jo |
I may have misse on e then :( |
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Jo |
ok .. |
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chris |
tuesday even |
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chris |
Russel Garlick has called an IRC meeting for KohaCon 2010 planning at 10:00 NZDT on Tuesday, 16 Feburary 2010 (AKA 21:00 UTC+0 on Monday, 15 February): |
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chris |
tonight our time is the general koha meeting |
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Jo |
there you go |
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Jo |
thers the source of the confusion |
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Jo |
what time Chris? |
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chris |
midnight or something |
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chris |
for us |
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Jo |
golly |
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chris |
yep midnight for us |
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chris |
not sure ill make it |
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brendan |
ah feb 15th is a holiday here --> presidents day |
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Jo |
you'll no doubt awaken tomorrow morning with qwerty imprinted across your forwhead again :) |
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Jo |
right - back on desk i go then :) |
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chris |
cc'd you on a mail to the woman at the convention centre jo |
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wizzyrea |
I once knew an old school geek who told me he wanted to die whilst programming |
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wizzyrea |
I told him that it wouldn't be very graceful to have your last words be "af;djszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" |
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wizzyrea |
true story. |
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braedon|work |
hmm, anyone where worked on, or used, the new Patron Card Creator? |
| 22:16 |
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braedon|work |
it doesn't seem to want to print fields on all the cards for me - just the first one... |
| 22:17 |
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chris |
braedon|work: chris_n is who you want to talk to about that |
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braedon|work |
it seems that chris_n is always the person i should talk to :P |
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chris |
if its to do with cards, in any shape or form, hes the man |
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chris_n |
braedon|work: you need the latest HEAD version |
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braedon|work |
kk |
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chris_n |
and even a patch or two beyond that |
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braedon|work |
lol, ok |
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braedon|work |
i couldn't find anything in bugzilla about it |
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chris_n |
no, I've been locating them myself and not taking time to open bugs.... time is at a premium just now :-) |
| 22:20 |
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chris_n |
feel free to file bugs on anything you find |
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braedon|work |
haha, alrighty. good to know It isn't just me stuffing up the configuration |
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chris_n |
but I would recommend fetching and rebasing first |
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thinks the cards are stacked against him atm :-) |
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brendan |
@wunder wellington NZ |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.4�C (2:32 PM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
chris++ |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -14.1�C (4:45 PM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday... |
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brendan |
hey moodaepo |
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* brendan |
waves |
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* moodaepo |
waves back at brendan through the snow flurries |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 7.0�C (5:41 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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