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22:56 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 7.0�C (5:41 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
22:56 chris_n @wunder 28334
22:56 * moodaepo waves back at brendan through the snow flurries
22:55 * brendan waves
22:55 brendan hey moodaepo
22:52 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -14.1�C (4:45 PM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday...
22:52 moodaepo @wunder 56001
22:37 brendan chris++
22:37 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.4�C (2:32 PM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
22:37 brendan @wunder 93117
22:36 munin brendan: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:36 brendan @wunder wellington NZ
22:23 * chris_n thinks the cards are stacked against him atm :-)
22:20 chris_n but I would recommend fetching and rebasing first
22:20 braedon|work haha, alrighty. good to know It isn't just me stuffing up the configuration
22:20 chris_n feel free to file bugs on anything you find
22:20 chris_n no, I've been locating them myself and not taking time to open bugs.... time is at a premium just now :-)
22:19 braedon|work i couldn't find anything in bugzilla about it
22:18 braedon|work lol, ok
22:18 chris_n and even a patch or two beyond that
22:18 braedon|work kk
22:18 chris_n braedon|work: you need the latest HEAD version
22:18 chris if its to do with cards, in any shape or form, hes the man
22:17 braedon|work it seems that chris_n is always the person i should talk to :P
22:17 chris braedon|work: chris_n is who you want to talk to about that
22:16 braedon|work it doesn't seem to want to print fields on all the cards for me - just the first one...
22:16 braedon|work hmm, anyone where worked on, or used, the new Patron Card Creator?
22:13 wizzyrea true story.
22:13 wizzyrea I told him that it wouldn't be very graceful to have your last words be "af;djszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
22:12 wizzyrea I once knew an old school geek who told me he wanted to die whilst programming
22:07 chris cc'd you on a mail to the woman at the convention centre jo
22:07 Jo right - back on desk i go then :)
22:06 Jo you'll no doubt awaken tomorrow morning with qwerty imprinted across your forwhead again :)
22:06 brendan ah feb 15th is a holiday here --> presidents day
22:06 chris not sure ill make it
22:06 chris yep midnight for us
22:06 Jo golly
22:06 chris for us
22:06 chris midnight or something
22:06 Jo what time Chris?
22:06 Jo thers the source of the confusion
22:05 Jo there you go
22:05 chris tonight our time is the general koha meeting
22:05 chris Russel Garlick has called an IRC meeting for KohaCon 2010 planning at 10:00 NZDT on Tuesday, 16 Feburary 2010 (AKA 21:00 UTC+0 on Monday, 15 February):
22:05 chris tuesday even
22:05 Jo ok ..
22:05 Jo I may have misse on e then :(
22:05 chris its next monday
22:05 chris nope
22:05 Jo how odd?
22:05 Jo its in my diary as today at 11am
22:04 chris lemme check the calendar
22:04 Jo ok ....
22:04 Jo mmmm
22:04 chris dont think so
22:04 Jo Koha COn meeting now?
22:04 Jo hi all
21:36 brendan night hdl_laptop
21:35 sekjal goodnight, hdl_laptop
21:35 chris night hdl_laptop
21:34 hdl_laptop well good night folks
21:22 jwagner Harrumph.
21:22 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.9�C (4:19 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon Tuesday to 7 PM EST Wednesday...
21:22 jwagner @wunder 20740
21:22 brendan I'll take that as a win - for about another hour - then I think the win will switch to chris
21:21 gmcharlt and brendan wins by a nose
21:21 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
21:21 chris @wunder wellington nz
21:21 chris cloudy here brendan, you might have me beat
21:21 chris [off] someone should update his wikipedia page to list all the cooperative initiatives he has killed
21:20 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.3�C (1:17 PM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
21:20 brendan @wunder 93117
21:20 chris [off] the project killer strikes again
21:19 chris ah yeah of course
21:19 gmcharlt [off] but the announcement was made in the context of a partnership, which, well ...
21:18 gmcharlt chris: their intentions were better than that
21:17 brendan re: relais
21:17 chris "We announced it only for the publicity and we don't intend to ever actually do it"
21:17 chris that reads to me like
21:17 chris http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14515 <-- hehe
21:09 wizzyrea righty o
21:09 chris_n wizzyrea: bbiab... I'll check the buffer
21:06 wizzyrea one moment chris_n
21:04 Ropuch Ok, fine I'll take sundays ;>
21:04 chris_n wizzyrea: what's the regexp and what is an example of before and after?
21:04 wizzyrea truth
21:04 Ropuch heheh
21:04 Ropuch wizzyrea: but you the one to report changes to ;>
21:04 wizzyrea you can have visitation rights though ^.^
21:04 wizzyrea ropuch: i have rather adopted it
21:04 wizzyrea lol
21:04 wizzyrea i haven't touched the regexp
21:03 Ropuch chris_n: wizzyrea is one to ask - it's her baby now ;>
20:59 hdl_laptop Will do RFC.
20:59 hdl_laptop OK.
20:57 gmcharlt but the vhost parameters *would* be a 3.4 RC matter
20:57 gmcharlt no, something has to get done for 3.2, as I'm not intending to create regressions if I can avoid it
20:57 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: so that enhancement would skip from 3.0.5 to 3.4
20:55 chris_n Ropuch: what is your current regexp?
20:55 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: I believe that would be a question for a 3.4 RFC
20:55 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: would that be OK ?
20:54 chris im gonna add the alpha here too
20:54 chris https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/packages
20:54 hdl_laptop /a la opacstylesheet/
20:54 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: we are planning to make those preferences virtualhost parameters.
20:53 gmcharlt and I'd prefer that they new sysprefs, a la opaccolorstylesheet
20:52 Ropuch We can do quick&dirty fix and relace it - either before docbook2html or afer
20:52 gmcharlt at the very least, it could assume ./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/<theme>/<lang>/xslt
20:52 Ropuch It's xml part
20:52 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: perhaps a little too much flexibility - not many other sysprefs requires knowing the internal path to intranet-tmpl
20:51 Ropuch <para>to Share - to copy, distribute and transmit the work</para>
20:50 wizzyrea and this: http://screencast.com/t/MGU5MTAy
20:49 wizzyrea don't laugh: the picture thing was permissions >.<
20:49 Ropuch It's still regexp doing
20:49 Ropuch <link rel="?ch=NEXT" title="Basic Parameters" href="x2779" />
20:49 wizzyrea Ah, yes, and that
20:48 Ropuch and ?ch=
20:48 wizzyrea it looks like they're just missing the .html on the end
20:48 Ropuch Hehe
20:48 wizzyrea :)
20:48 wizzyrea yea, that's my next challenge
20:48 Ropuch But we're almost there :)
20:48 Ropuch wizzyrea: next/previous link are still broken though
20:47 wizzyrea :)
20:47 Ropuch wizzyrea: whoa!
20:46 hdl_laptop I donot think this adds much complexity. And much more flexible.
20:46 hdl_laptop would duplicate the whole templates only for one file.
20:45 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: why not use themes, then?
20:43 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: RT <gmcharlt> regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c : In fact, for a multiple instance Code base, sharing the same stylesheet can lead to problems when you need to customize the stylesheet.
20:39 sekjal and if we set Koha up to support them, we'd have yet another way to pass data back and forth between systems
20:39 sekjal if we connected the script to the Z39.50 profiles already in the system, we could do this kind of sync with any Z39.50 server that supported the extended service definitions
20:38 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: RT <gmcharlt> regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c : Motivation is to be able to choose a customised stylesheet for an installation and not HAVE to edit the "official" stylesheet
20:37 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: RT : <gmcharlt> work on 3.0.x->3.2.0 reconiliation - question: do you expect any more DBrevs after 3.00.06.005? = I don't think there would be any other DBrev
20:36 jwagner Would a similar function be useful outside the US?
20:36 jwagner Do other countries have an equivalent to OCLC that works the same way? Central holding database?
20:36 jwagner Right -- you don't want to upload electronic resources, for example. No point.
20:36 sekjal I have some pseudo code kicking around somewhere, but I never had time to work on developing it
20:35 sekjal the selection of which materials coud be up to local configuration
20:35 hdl_laptop jwagner: therefore, we should separate items and biblios
20:34 jwagner Dunno that you'd want all of them. Maybe just new bibs with items?
20:33 sekjal if ZOOM supported it, it would be a pretty straight-forward thing to write a script to automatically push all new/edited bibs on a nightly/weekly cron
20:33 jwagner sekjal, yes, I remember having to create 925/926 (I think) local fields for that update in Unicorn.
20:33 rhcl I think we have to pay a certain amount for each record we upload
20:32 sekjal it uses one of the extended service definitions for holdings updates
20:31 sekjal OCLC allows for holdings updates to be communicated via Z39.50
20:31 chris flowing in their direction
20:31 rhcl A 3-click semi-auto process would be great.
20:31 chris if it involves OCLC it will involve money
20:31 sekjal I have an idea for that
20:31 rhcl Yea, I know that my TS manager has to monthly manual uploads to OCLC
20:30 jwagner Dunno how the link to OCLC works, but....
20:30 jwagner That brings up another idea, for someone's development creativity. It would be useful for Koha to be able to update a library's holdings in OCLC. In Unicorn, when you Smartport (z39.50) a record from OCLC, you have to option to update OCLC to say that you own a copy.
20:30 wizzyrea ropuch: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3116#AEN3119
20:20 rhcl Yea yea, schuster is saying some of the same words as my TS manager over the partition
20:19 rhcl Apparently our patrons can't since we didn't buy an NCIP license
20:18 rhcl http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/firstsearch/getting_started/ncipweb/default.htm
20:18 rhcl ...none of which provides a complete access solution...The NCIP-based patron authentication feature...complements and supplement them
20:18 chris plus EG need it too, so there is good chance for collaboration
20:17 chris yeah, i think so too
20:16 wizzyrea I think it's fairly safe to say the mentioned person won't be involved
20:16 rhcl OH, it's NCIP
20:16 wizzyrea heads together, getting it done. I like these things.
20:15 chris so its just a matter of getting some heads together and getting it done
20:15 chris david fiander and others are willing to work on it again, as long as the person who killed it is no longer involved
20:15 jwagner OK, makes sense if it's ILL -- that would need to send/receive actions. Just searching should be fine with z39.50.
20:15 chris s/died/was killed through stupidity/
20:14 schuster There was discussion about openncip.org at one time, but it looks as though it died.
20:14 schuster Otherwise NON oclc members have to batch upload their collections to OCLC to be retrievable, but the library still has to initiate the request from my understanding as OCLC won't be able to verify the user to a library.
20:13 schuster Sounds like an ILL question - I've been banging around in my head with that too... The State of Texas has adopted a new ILL version - but for it to be fully functional meaning patron requests without library intervention you would have to be NCIP compliant.
20:12 jwagner Don't understand that one at all, but so far as I know, Koha is not yet NCIP compliant. Just SIP/SIP2
20:11 rhcl From Worldcat to Koha (I think). Apparently if a patron is at home "The Database" needs NSIP for them to search WorldCat (FirstSearch)
20:10 jwagner Are they wanting to update holdings in Worldcat, maybe?
20:10 jwagner And if it's just searching, why not z39.50?
20:10 wizzyrea ha ha ha.
20:10 jwagner rhcl, which direction? Searching from Koha to Worldcat, or from Worldcat to Koha?
20:10 wizzyrea Koha can talk SIP so I don't know why not
20:10 * chris_n takes out his ear plugs
20:09 rhcl Koha can do?
20:09 wizzyrea (I'm done screaming)
20:09 rhcl Something about NSIP needed by OCLC for First Search so people can search the world database
20:09 rhcl OK, on behalf of someone else a question that I don't even understand...
20:09 wizzyrea aw, and nengard isn't around. I was going to tell her that I got the images
20:08 wizzyrea debian++
20:08 bigbrovar would have to reinstall the server and do a fresh install though which is not as bad as it sounds. maybe I should use debian lenny instead of ubuntu this time around
20:07 bigbrovar stupid me .. completely trashed my koha database.. I tot i did a backup well i didnt .. now I have to start it all from scatch ,, the good part is its not been deployed yet..
20:06 wizzyrea but I'm still a bit screamy
20:06 wizzyrea j/k
20:06 * wizzyrea runs away screaming
20:06 wizzyrea lol, this is making me crazy: the paths look correct, if I put the path in, the images show up, but they won't come from the pages
20:05 rhcl Oh, just a bit...and this fully 15 years after... :)
20:04 wizzyrea lol, a bit jaded there rhcl?
20:04 rhcl and where objective NE marriage
20:04 wizzyrea truf
20:04 chris_n and obey all constraints
20:03 wizzyrea SELECT patience, understanding FROM personality WHERE objective=long-term-love
20:03 chris right, that email was the best i could do
20:02 jwagner I wonder what a SQL query is for a stable relationship?
20:01 chris heh
20:01 owen "I tried to ask a girl out and MySQL told me PERMISSION DENIED"
20:01 chris_n if it were really only that simple ;-)
20:00 chris_n hehe
20:00 * jwagner asks if chris_n is going into marriage counseling?
20:00 * chris_n believes as many relationships as possible should be enforced by the db
20:00 chris_n that will ensure relational integrity
19:59 chris_n really label batches should be generated from the items table only
19:59 jwagner If you've staged the import, but not yet loaded it into the catalog?
19:59 jwagner owen, I wonder if the batch is in the reservoir with barcodes in 952 fields, but not yet imported. I don't think it would block dup barcodes in that case, would it?
19:59 owen chris_n: Good point
19:59 chris_n in which case a bug should be opened for the import tool
19:58 chris_n owen: I can imagine there might be a potential issue if the bulk import generates a batch of labels from some source other than the items table
19:57 owen chris_n: Okay, I'm going on what my cataloger told me so I may not have the story straight. Thanks.
19:56 gmcharlt chris: hdl_laptop: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:3.2:3.0.x_3.2.0_db_updates
19:54 chris_n the items table will not allow it
19:54 chris_n I do not understand how you can have two items with the same barcode
19:53 owen chris_n: This is after a MARC import
19:53 chris_n if it does, it is a bug
19:53 chris_n it should not fail for that
19:53 chris_n you mean two labels for the same item?
19:53 chris_n opps
19:52 chris_n owen: there are supposed to be checks in the marc editor for barcode dups and items.barcode is a unique key which should prevent duplicate barcodes in any case
19:49 owen chris_n: We observed this in 3.01.00.061
19:49 nengard :)
19:49 jwagner nengard, not until I get an updated system in hand to play with :-)
19:49 nengard jwagner - i learned how to do things with it by reading other people's patches :) so if you check out some of the recent patches that might help
19:49 owen Hi chris_n, I have a question about labels. Would it make sense to you that a label batch might fail to be created if there were duplicate barcodes in the batch?
19:48 jwagner Thanks for doing that syspref on the selfcheck -- I haven't even seen the new editor yet, let alone figured out how to do something with it.
19:48 chris_n here
19:48 owen chris_n around?
19:48 nengard here
19:48 jwagner nengard, online?
19:45 richard yeah, it's a hard one to phrase right
19:44 chris hmm i dunno what to say to alison
19:42 wizzyrea derr. I was not paying attention, sorry
19:42 chris back
19:42 wizzyrea silly wizzy.
19:41 wizzyrea yes, indeed you did
19:41 wizzyrea OHH
19:41 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, suggestion date missing from manage suggestions
19:41 nengard owen - i have all kinds of things going wrong lately that make no sense ... can anyone else confirm that Bug 4092 is resolved in HEAD?
19:41 Ropuch wizzyrea: i had it commented
19:41 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
19:41 gmcharlt @later tell hdl_laptop why are there serveral DBrevs in 3.00.04.* that seem to duplicate earlier DBrevs in updatedatabase30.pl?
19:41 Ropuch I troed another wp plugin Include html, but it imorts every thml file s post
19:41 wizzyrea $docu = str_replace('src="images', 'src="kohadocs/images', $matches[1]); is the line I"m futzing with that breaks the output
19:40 wizzyrea :D it definitely works (I saw that)
19:40 Ropuch wizzyrea: I suggested cron in readme
19:39 Ropuch In the end I wanted a working concept
19:39 owen I'm seeing those dates fine now
19:39 owen Strange, nengard, I thought that would have been the culprit.
19:39 Ropuch I tried to write in bash, but after painfull hour i gave up
19:39 wizzyrea it wouldn't plug in directly from WP but it could be run in a cron
19:39 wizzyrea I see what you're doing here
19:38 wizzyrea a shell script would actually do it nicely I think
19:38 Ropuch Let's ask someone to rewrite update_docs in any language he/she feels proficient with
19:38 nengard even after adding a new suggestion today
19:38 nengard but i still don't see them in my display
19:38 nengard owen - okay - i have them - so they did update ...
19:38 Ropuch Just guessing
19:38 wizzyrea Ah!
19:37 Ropuch wizzyrea: escape slash like \/?
19:37 owen I'm not sure why it didn't update my install.
19:37 nengard hmmm - okay - off to check and see if i have those
19:37 owen "ADD manageddate date default NULL,"
19:37 owen "ADD suggesteddate date default NULL,"
19:36 owen nengard: updatedatabase.pl has a section which adds those columns
19:36 wizzyrea hmm that borks the output in such a way that http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/ doesn't even have anything
19:36 nengard owen - if you had to fix your table manually, then we need a db update for that? right?
19:35 owen Look for suggesteddate and manageddate
19:34 owen I had to correct mine in order for that bug to be fixed
19:34 owen Check the structure of your suggestions table
19:34 nengard ?
19:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, suggestion date missing from manage suggestions
19:34 owen nengard: About Bug 4092...
19:33 wizzyrea trying...
19:33 wizzyrea ooh
19:33 Ropuch try /wp-content
19:32 wizzyrea I put in wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/images in the script, but it doesn't like it
19:32 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/images/cataloging/newitem.png
19:31 Ropuch Can you give me the url to an image from documentation directory?
19:30 wizzyrea odd
19:30 Ropuch Yup
19:30 wizzyrea does it work on yours ropuch?
19:30 Ropuch wizzyrea: hm
19:30 wizzyrea yea, the images bit doesn't seem to be working, even with the right paths
19:29 Ropuch We want to extract the content from between <body></body> and change some <a href="foo"
19:29 nengard thanks - will remove from manual
19:29 gmcharlt nengard: yes
19:29 Ropuch Tidy putput isn't perfect, so sometimes lines are broken
19:28 Ropuch File update_docs is just a concept, and regexp, well, let's say I know nothing about them
19:27 Ropuch braedon|work: http://bagno.be/pliki/wp_kohadocs.zip
19:27 nengard gmcharlt are we pushing rotating collections to 3.4?
19:27 braedon|work kk. If it isn't sorted by my lunch (4 hours or so), if you would like i can take a squiz at it.
19:25 wizzyrea ya, it's still troublesome, I just got back from lunch :)
19:25 munin schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 4.3�C (1:22 PM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady).
19:25 schuster @wunder 75035
19:25 Ropuch braedon|work: ask wizzyrea, maybe she fixed it already
19:25 schuster question - is the table sorter on the pl or the tmpl?
19:23 braedon|work Ropuch: is that regex still giving you trouble?
19:22 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.9�C (11:17 AM PST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
19:22 brendan @wunder 93117
19:18 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
19:18 gmcharlt @later tell hdl_laptop regarding 3.0.x commit 3057a7afb98c - what is its motivation? now that we have OPAC and staff XSLT display in HEAD that is sensitive to marcflavour, why force user to figure out paths to XSLT files manually?
19:14 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
19:14 gmcharlt @later tell matts could you prepare and submit patches fro MT2631 (OPACviewISBD, etc.) for HEAD?
19:11 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
19:11 gmcharlt @later tell hdl_laptop work on 3.0.x->3.2.0 reconiliation - question: do you expect any more DBrevs after 3.00.06.005?
18:30 rhcl anybody on chat from Montana?
18:24 chris ok time to get kahu ready for kindegarten and me ready for work
18:23 wizzyrea :)
18:21 Ropuch And I sometimes quit after half-day fight with something like simple regexp ;>
18:21 Ropuch I really like solving problems, but in the end I know what steps should be taken, but can't do it myself due to lack of programming skills
18:18 Ropuch hehe
18:18 wizzyrea your process seems very similar to mine ;)
18:16 Ropuch It's because I;m solving problem with analog approach ;>
18:16 wizzyrea you got much further than I ever would have
18:16 Ropuch Unfortunatelly that's beyond my skills
18:15 wizzyrea don't cry
18:15 * wizzyrea comforts ropuch
18:15 wizzyrea I had noticed the wierd url's :)
18:15 wizzyrea no lol
18:15 * Ropuch cries ;>
18:15 Ropuch You...noticed...my..*lame*...regexp
18:14 wizzyrea yea, i had noticed that
18:12 Ropuch But due to my lame regexp some urls are transforemd into <a href="x2758"
18:12 Ropuch wizzyrea: $docu = preg_replace($pattern, '"?ch=\1\2"', $docu); seems to be the right way, I can acces subpages from documentation main page
18:09 chris http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/335434/linux_conf_raises_33_000_charity/
18:09 sekjal and with enough generalization, this status model could be extended to bibs and items, so the whole workflow from acquistions to circulation is customizable
18:09 nengard chris - no fair :( we're looking at another foot of snow tomorrow!!
18:05 * chris_n greets chris
18:05 sekjal If we set up the status messages to be configurable, and have both staff client and OPAC options, we could let each library decide just how much info they want to give about the decisions process
18:05 owen Perhaps it reflects a workflow where one librarian checks a suggestion for accuracy before another librarian makes the real decision?
18:05 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (12:42 PM EST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
18:05 chris_n @wunder 28334
18:05 chris heh
18:05 * moodaepo thinks chris is a show off : )
18:03 gmcharlt likely a bit of acq workflow stuff that is useful to the acq department but which should be hidden from patron
18:03 chris tshirt again today
18:03 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
18:03 chris @wunder wellington nz
18:02 gmcharlt doesn't seem that helpful to a patron, regardless
18:02 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.9�C (11:55 AM CST on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday...
18:02 moodaepo @wunder 56001
18:02 wizzyrea it is weird
18:02 wizzyrea to differentiate between brand new suggestions and ones that you hven't decided on yet?
18:02 wizzyrea what he said
18:02 wizzyrea or "I acknowledge that yes, indeed, there is a suggestion here"
18:01 sekjal I guess it's to separate "we haven't looked at your request yet" to "we've looked at it, but haven't decided"
18:01 wizzyrea maybe "I checked, we do/don't have that"
18:01 * gmcharlt is guessing
18:01 gmcharlt we know we want to order it, but not sure if it's available yet?
18:00 chris yeah thats a weird one
18:00 owen If so, why is it necessary?
18:00 owen "Checked" seems like a strange interim status between "Pending" and a real resolution ("Accepted" or "Rejected.")
17:55 owen Can anyone tell me what the "checked" status for suggestions means?
17:54 gmcharlt for the performance fix
17:54 gmcharlt otherwise, I'll just mock stuff up
17:54 gmcharlt if you've got a large patron data and loan dataset that you're willing to let me play with, that woudl help
17:54 * wizzyrea knows enough to be dangerous (and occasionally smart-ish)
17:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4139 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, overdue notice generation performance issue
17:53 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: see bug 4139
17:53 wizzyrea ^.^ will look
17:53 Ropuch I feel our solution lurks there ;>
17:53 Ropuch wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/273357
17:52 * jwagner is going to venture out & see if I can reach a grocery store, before the NEXT storm comes in. Back later....
17:51 wizzyrea yes that is not so cool
17:51 chris students_with_iceblock_sticks--
17:50 chris heh
17:49 wizzyrea modern_medicine++
17:49 wizzyrea chris's_immune_system++
17:49 wizzyrea and your host would need to have AllowOverride on
17:49 wizzyrea and that it's writable (at elast temporarily) by the webserver
17:49 wizzyrea yea, all that means is that you need ot have a .htaccess file in the root of your wp install
17:48 chris better every day
17:48 jwagner How are you feeling, chris?
17:48 jwagner Afternoon :-)
17:46 Ropuch Evening [;
17:45 chris morning
17:41 Ropuch I'll ask some php/apache gurus, it should be easy to get it working with minor tweak to rewrite rules
17:40 Ropuch It says I shuold update my .htaccess
17:40 wizzyrea in custom
17:39 wizzyrea /%postname%/
17:39 Ropuch should
17:39 Ropuch wizzyrea: what shuold i put into permalink setting to dupicate the one from koha-community?
17:38 wizzyrea :)
17:38 wizzyrea schuster: maybe
17:38 Ropuch Heheh
17:38 wizzyrea wp is kind of one of my tech pets. I like to pet it and feed it and call it george
17:38 schuster wizzyrea you speaking clingon again?
17:38 Ropuch yes
17:37 wizzyrea $docu = preg_replace($pattern, '"?ch=\1\2"', $docu); is what you were thinking?
17:36 Ropuch even more to me, as don't know php or wordpress ;>
17:35 wizzyrea ropuch this is so exciting
17:35 wizzyrea hehe
17:35 wizzyrea yup it's important or yup it generates lots of errors?
17:34 Ropuch Yup
17:34 wizzyrea zillions of these errors on update
17:33 wizzyrea is this important? openjade:/home/koha-community/public_html/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual.xml:17511:36:E: non SGML character number 152
17:33 Ropuch instead of ?page_id=X&ch=foo ?ch=foo will work with friendly urls
17:33 wizzyrea ok, one more time for the boys and girls in the back
17:32 wizzyrea hehe
17:32 nengard not dumb!! never dumb!! it's still monday - that's my excuse today :)
17:32 Ropuch Maybe that will work
17:32 Ropuch YOUR_SITE_PATH/?variable_name=variable_value
17:32 nengard wizzyrea awesome
17:32 * wizzyrea feels dumb
17:32 wizzyrea HA
17:32 Ropuch wizzyrea: tidy ;>
17:32 wizzyrea nengard: it looks like it wouldn't be too bad to use this to generate all of the different languages, not just EN
17:31 wizzyrea which package
17:31 wizzyrea apt-get install.... ?
17:31 wizzyrea actually
17:31 wizzyrea i'm guessing I might need to install tidy
17:30 Ropuch And the code doesn't look like it was parse through tidy
17:30 Ropuch wizzyrea: images path must be broken
17:29 nengard we just need to make it searchable and printable
17:29 nengard but this works!!!
17:29 nengard wizzyrea and Ropuch, we need links to all of the manuals - not just English - BibLibre is working on a French translation and there are folders there for other languages as well
17:28 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/?page_id=123
17:26 Ropuch Ok, I'll get some tea and look into friendly urls
17:26 Ropuch Along with rtf, man, tex... ;>
17:25 wizzyrea oh woot
17:25 Ropuch It's in docbook-utils too
17:25 Ropuch docbook2pdf ;>
17:25 Ropuch just 1-2 lines
17:24 Ropuch PDF is not a problem
17:24 wizzyrea yep yep
17:24 Ropuch wizzyrea: we could include some custom style in update_docs
17:24 nengard and I agree wizzyrea
17:24 nengard we need to do a pull of it as PDF as well - when we figure this out
17:24 wizzyrea which is amazing
17:23 Ropuch automagick
17:23 nengard got it
17:23 Ropuch nengard: it's just a protoype of autogaick git pul & publish
17:23 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: well, it isn't yet (a text)
17:23 nengard and are the images there?
17:23 nengard Important and Tip need styles - they need to stand out
17:23 wizzyrea :)
17:23 * wizzyrea breathes finally. Stupid technology.
17:23 hdl_laptop fact is that attribute could/should also be a text and not a varchar.
17:23 Ropuch ;)
17:23 nengard woo hoo
17:23 nengard works!!!!
17:22 Ropuch works
17:22 nengard duh
17:22 nengard due
17:22 nengard oh found it
17:22 wizzyrea it's just you
17:22 nengard is it just me?
17:22 nengard wizzyrea - i don't see a link on the docuemntation page :( geeze
17:22 wizzyrea not the page_id nonsense
17:22 hdl_laptop mmm would require also some indexes on attributetypes.
17:22 wizzyrea so the reason you are getting the home page is you are trying to use the pretty permalinks
17:22 imp nice
17:21 jwagner imp, I got between 18-24 inches depending on where I measure. Other parts of the area got 30 inches or more.
17:21 wizzyrea I had to turn off pretty urls
17:21 gmcharlt in fact, I suspect that adding the latter index would suffice
17:21 wizzyrea do the links from there work
17:21 wizzyrea does that work?
17:21 wizzyrea click 3.2 manual (I have some cleanup to do here)
17:21 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: y'know, I wonder if an index on borrower_attributes.attribute and, more importantly, authorised_values.authorised_value would be sufficient
17:21 wizzyrea click documentation
17:21 wizzyrea yes, go to the home page
17:20 imp jwagner: how much snow do you already have?
17:20 owen Now http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/ takes me to the home page
17:20 jwagner The weather forecaster just muttered something about another 6-12 inches of snow tomorrow night here....
17:20 * jwagner shrieks, sighs
17:19 wizzyrea i think it cached the wrong thing
17:19 wizzyrea ok, turned off caching, does it work now?
17:19 owen I get the same thing
17:19 nengard okay i restarted FF and the page loads - but the links stil only take me to the homepage
17:18 wizzyrea heh, yea, 135, not 3
17:17 wizzyrea lol, can anybody duplicate that?
17:17 wizzyrea ?!
17:17 nengard okay very weird - i'm logged in and now i can't get to the page - now all i see is the homepage no matter what url i'm at - i'm restarting
17:16 hdl_laptop and then query borrowers on borrowernumbers
17:16 hdl_laptop Problem is that as it is now, use of extended patron information is a major performance killer. we should try and query first on extendedattributes
17:16 wizzyrea it works
17:16 wizzyrea logged in, logged out
17:15 wizzyrea odd, it works for me
17:15 nengard my links say: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?page_id=3&ch=c46#AEN518
17:15 nengard but clicking won't work
17:15 wizzyrea it's cached
17:15 nengard nope - when i mouse over they read the right thing
17:14 wizzyrea log in
17:14 wizzyrea if your URL doesn't say page_id=135 then you don't have the most current
17:14 nengard did - will do again
17:14 wizzyrea b/c it works for me
17:14 wizzyrea mmm you need to shift+refresh
17:14 nengard not the manual pages
17:14 nengard they all go to the homepage
17:14 nengard nope ...
17:14 wizzyrea at least, they do for me
17:14 wizzyrea they should now
17:14 nengard also the links don't work
17:14 Ropuch And I insist that someone should rewrite it ;>
17:14 wizzyrea and i'm going to work on the templats
17:13 wizzyrea the CSS will need some tweaking I think
17:13 nengard awesome!!!
17:13 Ropuch Just a working concept
17:13 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/
17:13 wizzyrea very very good work ropuch
17:13 nengard wizzyrea
17:13 wizzyrea nengard
17:13 wizzyrea rawr, it works
17:12 wizzyrea Ropuch: I found the problem I think
17:12 hdl_laptop I agree.
17:12 hdl_laptop So it would be VERY unpleasant for them to find that feature broken.
17:10 wizzyrea for this, you can have all the time you need
17:10 wizzyrea :D
17:10 Ropuch Just give me some time ;>
17:10 Ropuch wizzyrea: I'm looking into it
17:09 gmcharlt the feature in question was sponsored by schuster 's school, btw
17:09 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: can you comment on 943aa38564c73 ? this patch can't stay in as is; a real fix is needed rather than simply commenting it out
17:08 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: i am
17:08 hdl_laptop hi
17:08 wizzyrea and it looks quite lovely
17:08 wizzyrea closer ever still
17:08 wizzyrea BUT
17:08 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: about?
17:08 wizzyrea you're right, not sure it works with pretty URLS
17:07 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/
17:04 nengard hiya
17:04 Ropuch Hello nengard
16:57 kf bye #koha
16:57 owen gmcharlt: I'm assuming that the titles in suggestions_loop are already filtered on the logged-in user's borrowernumber
16:56 gmcharlt I also confirm that in any event, that syspref doesn't seem to work for me either
16:55 gmcharlt but the suggestions interface seems buggy in general
16:55 wizzyrea kk
16:55 Ropuch wizzyrea: yes
16:55 gmcharlt owen: the fact that OPACViewOthersSuggestions only appears in the template is not necessarily an issue (although it is, since it ought to also be enforced by opac-suggestions.pl to prevent a back door into seeing other people's suggestions)
16:51 wizzyrea Ropuch: this might be a dumb question... I need to init the git repo for kohadocs before doing the update?
16:45 wizzyrea debian :)
16:44 Ropuch wizzyrea: apt-get install docbook-utils for me, but I don't know what system you're using
16:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4137 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, OPACViewOthersSuggestions preference doesn't work
16:43 owen Hmmm... Anyway: Bug 4137
16:41 wizzyrea nm, google lol
16:40 wizzyrea ropuch: docbook-utils is available from where?
16:37 gmcharlt owen: if you're referring to the file I think you are, commit 8802bbf5fe6 seems to be the culprit
16:34 hdl_laptop pickckaxe
16:34 hdl_laptop owen: git log -Syourstring
16:34 owen gmcharlt: I'm trying to find out when something disappeared from a particular file
16:34 gmcharlt owen: search how? would git blame file + grep do what you need?
16:33 Ropuch ...and $_REQUEST should be sanitize, and I;m stop complaining ;>
16:32 Ropuch I haven't tested it with friendly urls
16:32 wizzyrea I have confidence that it will work ^.^
16:31 Ropuch wizzyrea: If something is not clear, I;m here
16:31 wizzyrea happiness
16:31 wizzyrea Ropuch: working on it now <fingers crossed>
16:29 owen Is there a way to search for a particular string in the git history of a single file?
16:11 Ropuch But - as I said - it's working ;>
16:10 Ropuch Main flaw for now is that all html is displayed into wp content part, along with <xhtml> and meta tags
16:10 Ropuch I talked to chris, maybe he will rewrite this in proper way
16:09 wizzyrea i'm beyond excited :)
16:09 wizzyrea bless you good sir
16:09 Ropuch Consider it working beta
16:09 Ropuch wizzyrea: http://bagno.be/pliki/wp_kohadocs.zip
16:07 wizzyrea Hooray!
16:07 Ropuch ;>
16:07 Ropuch wizzyrea: I'm here
15:44 wizzyrea duly filed under "laters that could mean lots of things"
15:44 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
15:44 wizzyrea @later tell Ropuch ooh, send it to me!
15:43 chris_n lol :-)
15:43 wizzyrea but you all knew that
15:43 * wizzyrea is also not perfect
15:43 wizzyrea >.<
15:43 wizzyrea too
15:43 wizzyrea and xml
15:43 wizzyrea oh speaking of xhtml: there is something funny about the rss feeds in the catalog. I think I talked to chris about it a long time ago but they don't validate?
15:42 * owen hasta keep busy somehow
15:42 gmcharlt owen++ # I ought to make your life easier by killfiling patches that don't declare XHTML in their templates ;)
15:40 * jwagner is kinder and suggests that the perfect code talent was hogged up by the first on the scene. Not mentioning names, chris....
15:40 wizzyrea ;)
15:40 wizzyrea mmm, no one is perfect. Some of the best inventions came from accidents.
15:40 * wizzyrea is torn between telling you no one is perfect and (teasingly) mocking you for not being perfect
15:39 owen chris_n: Voodoo curse?
15:39 * chris_n wonders why he cannot write perfect code the first time every time ;-)
15:01 amadan This problem stops below the line "Manifying blib/man3/serials::member-search.3pm"
14:59 amadan Thanks imp, I tried but still getting " /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib" during make at which it stops. Can anyone help?
14:53 imp (where the path is the path to your perl executeable i guess)
14:53 imp perl fix-perl-path.PL /absolute/path/to/foo
14:53 imp amadan: =head2 BASIC USAGE
14:52 amadan I tried running the fix-perl-path.PL file but it says "no such file or directory at line 64. Could any one help please
14:51 imp (so you could just use the normal translations to get the pictograms will be displayed this way)
14:50 schuster Just build a template - yes Owen and I have done something along those lines. let me see if I still have a live page.
14:49 imp schuster: is it possible load images inside the translations?
14:49 schuster I'm waiting for 3.2 before I do much with that owen FYI.
14:49 schuster I've been poking Owen on a few tips tricks, but we havn't come up with an elegant solution yet. He has helped me some using the Multi-pac setup which allowed for local default browsing based on the URL.
14:48 schuster I think it would be really easy to build an interface and I've been pondering it, but the problem is we need it to "automatically" limit to the location as well. Showing a kindergartener ALL the Dinosaur books as ALL the locations is overwhelming.
14:47 schuster School perspective...
14:46 schuster For what it is worth - the kids pac discussion - for Kinder - 2nd grade where they can't spell it sure helps them to have the picture driven interface.
14:41 amadan basically make stops at /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib
14:39 amadan Could anyone please inform me where the koha install logfile is located
14:35 imp should i fill a bug report for this: http://pastebin.ca/1789468 (had the problems while installing)
14:35 amadan yep
14:28 owen amadan: Is that the whole error?
14:24 amadan Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, i keep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make. Can anyone please help
14:10 amadan Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, ikeep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make. Can anyone please help, I'm stuck?
14:07 jwagner gmcharlt, nengard is more likely to get to it before I do....
14:06 amadan can anyone help
14:06 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
14:06 gmcharlt @later tell nengard note sysprefs for bug 3738 need to be added to new interface, in case jwager doesn't get to it first
14:06 amadan Hello Folks, I'm installing koha 3.05 on debian lenny, ikeep getting "fix-perl-path.PL blib" after running make.
14:02 hdl_laptop yeah...
13:59 owen nengard++ for filling my mailbox this weekend. Good work!
13:59 * collum just added the 2002 Newbury title. It took 10 minutes and I have to reboot the server to see it. Done for the day.
13:48 nengard okay - time to run out - i'll be back later - oh and sorry for filling all your mailboxes this weekend :) I was on a bug closing/commenting roll :) hehe
13:45 nengard hehe - yeah - both of them had to hop to get through the snow - it was at their backs
13:44 owen Looks like it took a lot of effort to get that far. No wonder she needed a rest!
13:43 nengard anyone want to smile this monday morning? yesterday my girl was so goofy - she went outside and decided the snow looked like a comfortable place to relax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/4336866823/
13:38 gmcharlt yeah, if somebody had noticed, you would have gotten a lot of angry Neil Gaiman fans protesting at the library or something
13:38 * collum thinks that since no one has ever pointed out the Newbery Awards to us, it is an indication of usage.
13:38 nengard gmcharlt - i need theraflu - not caffine :( but I have a PT appt in 30 min and have to drive so i have to wait
13:37 nengard the news just said we can expect another foot of snow on top of the foot+ we have on the ground right now!!!
13:37 * gmcharlt gives nengard some caffeine
13:37 * gmcharlt stomps on the bad meme
13:36 nengard oh :( don't play with me on monday morning :) hehe
13:36 gmcharlt ALA is still giving the Newbery
13:36 gmcharlt meep - I was joking
13:36 chris_n g'morning #koha
13:36 nengard gmcharlt, i didn't know ... do you know why?
13:34 collum Very labor intensive interface.
13:33 collum That's probably our fault. :)
13:31 gmcharlt recent awards: no (who knew that ALA stopped awarding the Newbery in 2002 ;) )
13:31 gmcharlt awards: yes
13:30 gmcharlt scoping: doesn't look like it (not that I'm a fan of sticking kids into a ghetto, either)
13:29 gmcharlt precoordinated search links: check
13:29 collum I asked our Virtual Librarian if we gather usage stats on it. We don't.
13:28 collum http://ipac.kentonlibrary.org:8080/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=c-kids&logout=true&startover=true
13:28 collum All the opac's that I have seen have been based on CARL's model, from many year's ago.
13:27 collum There are some studies.
13:27 collum Just did a google search on kid's opac
13:27 gmcharlt agreed
13:26 owen It'd be a great subject for a controlled study
13:26 gmcharlt but thinks like a cutsey interface leave me cold
13:26 gmcharlt some things that may be of actual use would be large fonts, easy creation of precoordinated searches (e.g., click here to get books on Dinosaurs), and scoping to juvenile materials
13:25 * gmcharlt doesn't think so either, but that doesn't stop library's from asking for one
13:23 * owen isn't sure making an OPAC look childlike is going to help kids use it
13:22 gmcharlt I haven't seen any more YakPacs showing up in the wild, but I haven't been looking for them either
13:21 gmcharlt I not be the one to ask
13:21 owen YacPac never went anywhere did it?
13:21 owen I sure don't
13:20 gmcharlt owen: do you know of any good kiddie-OPAC skins out in the wild?
13:20 gmcharlt good morning owen
13:20 bigbrovar gmcharlt: thanks
13:20 Ropuch Hi owen
13:19 owen Hello #koha
13:19 gmcharlt back up everything before you do it, of course
13:19 gmcharlt i.e., perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log; make; make test; sudo make upgrade
13:19 gmcharlt bigbrovar: sure - the upgrade instructions in the INSTALL should work fine
13:18 bigbrovar gmcharlt: from koha-3.0.2
13:18 bigbrovar oh sorry from koha-3.0.2
13:17 gmcharlt bigbrovar: upgrade from what to what? :)
13:16 bigbrovar am currently running koha-3.0.5 is there a way i can upgrade to koha3.0.5 without doing a reinstall from scratch
12:30 gmcharlt hi Ropuch
12:29 Ropuch Hi gmcharlt
12:28 gmcharlt does anybody know of good children's catalog skins for Koha?
12:28 gmcharlt_ good morning
11:32 munin chris_n`: The operation succeeded.
11:32 chris_n` @later tell Schuster: yeah, it needs to make it into the INSTALL.* files
10:27 CGI231 OK. Thanks.
10:26 nahuel ask the person who installed koha
10:26 CGI231 But I dont know how to do that..
10:25 CGI231 OK.
10:25 nahuel on koha server
10:21 CGI231 on my PC or on Koha Server??
10:21 CGI231 how to do that?
10:20 nahuel you should increase your timeout in apache configuration
10:20 nahuel Ah
10:20 CGI231 but I think the problem is because of slow searching speed.
10:18 CGI231 OK let me check error log.
10:18 CGI231 as number increase it shows error.
10:17 CGI231 If i am selecting less libraries say 8.the system is fine.
10:17 nahuel yep
10:17 CGI231 means error log?
10:17 nahuel did you looked in your logfiles?
10:16 CGI231 but now getting error. Error 500.
10:16 CGI231 all were working well a few days back.
10:16 CGI231 I have included 15 target Z39.50 Servers
10:15 nahuel ask, if someone have the answer, you'll have an answer
10:15 nahuel don't ask to ask :)
10:15 CGI231 ??
10:15 CGI231 can any one help me.
10:15 CGI231 I am having a problem in my Koha system..
10:14 CGI231 Hello to all..
09:52 Ropuch chris: how was your day in work? It was the first one after surgery afair?
09:19 kf sleep well :)
09:19 chris and now im going to sleep
09:19 chris my cat walking on it
09:18 kf sleeping on your keyboard? :)
09:18 kf good morning chris
09:18 kf ?
09:15 chris AAAAAC
09:12 munin kf: Error: "still" is not a valid command.
09:12 kf munin still sleeping?
09:08 magnus bug 4036
09:06 kf im not sure a patch was sent for this bug
09:05 kf works fine for me
09:05 kf good morning paul_p
09:05 magnus hm, looks like bugs.koha.org has some problems
09:04 munin kf: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:04 kf @bug 4036
09:04 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4�C (9:59 AM CET on February 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
09:04 kf @wunder Konstanz
09:03 kf lazy munin :)
09:03 kf i suspect bug 4036
09:03 kf does not work in 3.2 - perhaps its because the user has overdues, but I schould get the yes/no at least
09:03 kf works fine in 3.1.61
09:03 kf configuration should be the same, just checked again
09:02 kf testing notices in our production system and head
09:02 kf checking out a book
09:00 magnus kf: do you know what you were doing when you got it?
08:56 kf dont know why, dont know what to write in my bug report *sigh*
08:55 kf hm, I have a yellow empty error box in 3.2 circ :(
08:52 Amit heya kf
08:45 kf hi Ropuch
08:36 Ropuch Morning kf
08:35 kf morning #koha
08:29 Amit heya Ropuch
08:29 Ropuch Hi Amit
08:28 Amit hi all
07:05 Ropuch Hi chris
07:04 chris hi all
06:45 braedon|home evening Ropuch
06:43 Ropuch Morning #koha
04:54 braedon|home wait, i (or my work alter ego) caught something?
04:01 Schuster chris_n thanks for the graphics::magick stuff. That still needs to be fixed someplace in the install.
03:11 chris_n g'night #koha
03:09 chris_n nice catch braedon|work; patch submitted
02:41 chris id certainly try upgrading one major version at a time
02:37 chris probably 1.2.3 to 2.0.0 to 2.2.9 to 3.0.0 to whatever
02:36 chris but i doubt he can go 1.2.3 to 2.2.9
02:36 chris eventually yes
02:35 chris_n chris: rekon that fellow will be able to upgrade?
02:33 chris getting better, as long as i keep taking the painkillers its ok
02:33 richard chris, how's your throat?
02:31 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=docs/history.txt;
02:31 chris december 2002
02:31 chris not quite
02:31 chris_n close to 10 years I'd imagine
02:30 braedon|work chris_n: how ancient exactly? (approximately)
02:27 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is -2.0�C (9:21 PM EST on February 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
02:27 chris_n @wunder 28334
02:23 chris_n wow, koha 1.2.3... that's ancient history :-)