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hi chris |
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good morning #koha |
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good afternoon Amit |
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Amit |
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hi Amit |
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@wunder 20740 |
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jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -5.5�C (7:47 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.52 in 1033.4 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 41011 |
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collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is -2.9�C (7:50 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder Berlin alexanderplatz |
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imp: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.1�C (1:42 PM CET on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Steady). |
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hdl_laptop |
hi jwagner |
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jwagner |
Bonjour hdl_laptop. Thought you were on vacation this week. |
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hdl_laptop |
only the first two days |
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jwagner |
Oh, well -- that's better than nothing :-) |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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imp |
heyho owen |
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hilongo |
@wunder Mendoza, Argentina |
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hilongo |
Great day :D |
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owen |
Sound good to me hilongo, my office is 15°C at the moment |
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jdavidb |
@wunder 20852 |
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jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -4.5�C (9:13 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Rising). |
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shivers a little. |
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nengard |
don't want to know the weather here |
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nengard |
let's just say it's FREEZING |
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owen |
Hi nengard, jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Hi, owen! :) |
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nengard |
hiya owen |
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brendan |
Morning All |
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hilongo |
morning! :) |
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rhcl |
Morning brendan |
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brendan |
good morning rhcl |
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nengard |
hey - found another new feature i didn't know about |
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nengard |
what is the merge button on the private lists page in the staff client supposed to do? |
| 15:33 |
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nengard |
cause right now it does nothing :) |
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owen |
Does nothing, or causes an error? I get an error. |
| 15:37 |
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nengard |
both :) |
| 15:37 |
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nengard |
does nothing and throws an error :) |
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nengard |
off to bug report it - even though i don't know what the feature is supposed to do :) |
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owen |
" Can't locate Devel/SimpleTrace.pm in @INC" |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: Do you know anything about it? |
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nengard |
owen - i don't get that |
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nengard |
i get a 500 error |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: you are in debug mode are you not ? |
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nengard |
see bug 4019 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4019 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, Lists Merge Button Throws Error |
| 15:39 |
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owen |
nengard: I found that error in my log |
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nengard |
ahhhh! got it |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: I am in debug level 2, but the error was not output to the browser |
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* owen |
says sternly, "Gentlemen, we are now at DebLev 2. Get to your bunkers." |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
i put my error log info into the bug report |
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nengard |
if that helps |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: owen can you try installing Devel::SimpleTrace ? |
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hdl_laptop |
I shall ask my folks to remove that dependency |
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nengard |
doing it now |
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owen |
Okay, now I don't get an error, but I get a page filled with a huge table and this at the top: "d4d89865f7169b3e107cfe4fb00d8d00" |
| 15:45 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: This is a tool for merging records? |
| 15:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: yes. |
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hdl_laptop |
strange. |
| 15:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
You must have a merge problem. |
| 15:50 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: I'm viewing the list of all my lists, and clicking the "merge" button for one of them. |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop owen - i get a new error now that i have that installed |
| 15:50 |
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nengard |
GET LOST ? at /home/nengard/kohaclone/virtualshelves/merge.pl line 131. |
| 15:51 |
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owen |
If I click through to one of the lists instead and "merge selected," I get an intermediary page which asks me to choose a merge reference. |
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nengard |
maybe cause my list is empty - but that means we should limit when the merge button shows -- off to add to the list |
| 15:51 |
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owen |
"get lost!" geeze nengard, can't a merge get a little privacy around here? |
| 15:52 |
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nengard |
okay - added things ot the list and it worked |
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nengard |
but now i have no idea what to do or how to document it :) |
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owen |
What worked nengard? |
| 15:52 |
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nengard |
adding items to the list :) |
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nengard |
it was a list with 0 items |
| 15:53 |
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nengard |
and yes owen - i too see the differences between the two merge buttons |
| 15:53 |
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nengard |
the behavior of them |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: One button takes me to virtualshelves/merge.pl and the other takes me to cataloguing/merge.pl |
| 15:55 |
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nengard |
hmm |
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nengard |
yeah the cataloguing/merge tool looks a lot easier to figure out |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: virtualshelves/merge.pl should be removed. |
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hdl_laptop |
It is obsolete. |
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nengard |
okay |
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hdl_laptop |
cataloguing/merge is the one. |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: Should we also remove the merge button from the list of shelves? |
| 16:09 |
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owen |
You can't replace the destination of that form with "cataloguing/merge," I tried it. It doesn't pass any biblionumbers, just a shelf number. |
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CGI027 |
Hello. I made some changes in the MARC Bibliographic Framework in Koha Express and see that the misc/rebuildnonmarc.pl script now needs to be run so that the records appear properly in the OPAC. How is this done with Koha Express? If someone could just point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. |
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owen |
CGI027: You edited a framework, or you changed the koha to MARC links? |
| 16:12 |
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nengard |
updated bug 4019 with a summary of changes that need to be made - as i understand them |
| 16:12 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4019 critical, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Lists Merge Issues |
| 16:12 |
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CGI027 |
I changed some of the links. |
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owen |
I'm not sure if there is a step required here or not, but "rebuildnomarc.pl" looks likes it only relevant if marc support is turned off in your system. |
| 16:16 |
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owen |
That's what I interpret from the "nomarc" part at least |
| 16:17 |
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owen |
CGI027: Where does it say you should run misc/rebuildnonmarc.pl? |
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owen |
CGI027: When you say "the MARC Frameworks page," I'm not sure what you mean. There is the "MARC Bibliographic framework" link from the administration page, and there is the "Koha to MARC mapping" link. |
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owen |
If you were changing links, I assume you were using the latter. |
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CGI027 |
It was the MARC Bibliographic Framework, actually. |
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owen |
So you were editing a framework under the "MARC Bibliographic Framework" page? |
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CGI027 |
Yes. |
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owen |
I don't know why you would have to run anything after modifying a framework. |
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owen |
CGI027: What version are you using? Find out by going to More > About Koha |
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CGI027 |
Okay. Maybe that isn't the problem then. What I'm trying to solve is why when I import records item records are recognized but not created. I have an item type defined in 952$y and $a, $b, and $o all have values. |
| 16:26 |
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CGI027 |
Version 3.00.02.012 |
| 16:27 |
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nengard |
well you're 3 releases behind ... |
| 16:27 |
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nengard |
we're at 3.0.5 |
| 16:27 |
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CGI027 |
That's interesting since we just purchased it about 3 weeks ago. |
| 16:28 |
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nengard |
3 weeks ago the current release was 3.0.4 |
| 16:28 |
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nengard |
and then most recently 3.0.5 was released |
| 16:29 |
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nengard |
http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=296 |
| 16:30 |
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owen |
I see Liblime's site says "Runs the official Koha Project release (currently 3.0.2)" |
| 16:30 |
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owen |
So they're a little behind |
| 16:30 |
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nengard |
um - yup - just a little |
| 16:32 |
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owen |
Yeah, 3.0.2 was released in June wasn't it? |
| 16:32 |
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owen |
Anyway, I'm not very experienced with MARC imports, so I'm not sure what to tell you about that CGI027 |
| 16:33 |
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* owen |
has only imported Koha exports into Koha |
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CGI027 |
Thanks for your help, owen. |
| 16:34 |
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CGI027 |
Any suggestions for where I might look for help with my problem? |
| 16:34 |
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owen |
CGI027: This is often a good place to ask, but at the moment there aren't very many people around |
| 16:34 |
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hilongo |
Happy New Year to everyone! .. I'm off to vacation until february ... wohho! |
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hilongo |
see you all next year! |
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owen |
CGI027: If you want to try the Koha mailing list, be sure to start by stating which version you're on (the number). |
| 16:36 |
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CGI027 |
Thanks again, owen. I'll try that. |
| 16:36 |
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owen |
Telling us "Koha Express" lets us know that you don't have access to server configuration or command-line tools, and telling us the version number lets us know what you should expect to see in Koha (and what bugs you might encounter) |
| 16:58 |
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CGI027 |
I forgot to mention that I'm getting the following error message in the MARC Bibliographic Framework Test, but no errors are listed (i.e. OK is listed in every column): "You have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha". Any ideas what the error might be? |
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owen |
Sorry CGI027, no idea |
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CGI659 |
hi can any one help me with arabic po download |
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CGI659 |
hi |
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jwagner |
CGI659, there aren't too many people here today. |
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owen |
CGI659: What version? Did the arabic po file not come with your download? |
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CGI659 |
where can i check in the folder |
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CGI659 |
i'm using git |
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muchin |
if there isn't a scripts folder in my intranet folder so I can run the z3950 daemon do I have recompile koha? |
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owen |
CGI659: misc/translator/po |
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muchin |
thanks, what do i do from there |
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owen |
Sorry muchin, my comment was directed at CGI659 |
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owen |
muchin: What instructions are you following? What version of Koha? |
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muchin |
ah, and I thought I had it solved |
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muchin |
i'm running 3.0.0.2 on debian lenny ... and I'm following the directions from koha documentation |
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owen |
muchin: the debian lenny INSTALL file has directions for how to start the z3950 daemon |
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muchin |
i can't find the z3950 script, I'm not sure I selected from the make file |
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muchin |
owen: all right i'll review the file |
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CGI659 |
thnks seen it, but how can i enable it |
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owen |
CGI659: You'll have to generate the template files using the po file and a template-processing script |
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owen |
First create folders where the translated templates will go: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab |
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owen |
..and koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab |
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CGI659 |
then wat next |
| 17:32 |
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owen |
from misc/translator, run this: |
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owen |
./tmpl_process3.pl install -s ~/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r -i ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/ -o ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab |
| 17:32 |
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owen |
...assuming ~/kohaclone/ is where your Koha is installed |
| 17:33 |
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owen |
And: |
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owen |
./tmpl_process3.pl install -s ~/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r -i ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/ -o ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab |
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CGI659 |
and wat next |
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owen_ |
Did those commands run successfully? |
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owen_ |
You should now have a complete set of opac and intranet templates in the directories you created |
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owen_ |
If so, the next step is to enable your translation in system preferences. |
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CGI659 |
it said cant locate locale.po |
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CGI659 |
i'm installing it |
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owen_ |
tmpl_process3.pl said that? |
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CGI659 |
this is wa i got :Warning: Can't determine original templates' charset, defaulting to UTF-8 Warning: Charset Out defaulting to UTF-8 /opt/kohamaitainance/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po: No such file or directory |
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CGI659 |
owen , i got tmpl_process3.pl : No such file or directory |
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owen |
Did you create the directories under koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog and koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog ? |
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CGI659 |
yes, i check the sysadmin it's there. ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po is .p not .po that was the initial error |
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CGI659 |
my next task is to set Googlearabictranslitration in opac, how can i achieve that |
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CGI659 |
hi |
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CGI659 |
how can i set Googlearabictranslitration |
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owen |
Sorry CGI659 I don't know about that |
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CGI659 |
but my screen is still not multilingual |
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owen |
CGI659: So your translated template files were successfully generated? |
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CGI659 |
after i ran the command i got bash: ./tmpl_process3.pl: No such file or directory |
| 18:13 |
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CGI659 |
i got bash: ./tmpl_process3.pl: No such file or directory |
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owen |
CGI659: I've gotten that error before if I forgot to create the directory for the template files |
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collum |
CGI659: if you do an ls command does tmpl_process3.pl appear in the file listings? ./ indicates that the file has to be in the current directory. |
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CGI659 |
yeah it is done |
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CGI659 |
translated template files were successfully generated |
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collum |
Darn it. So much for the easy fix. Then it must not be able to find a file that is referenced in tmpl_process3.pl. |
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CGI659 |
yes i now have the multilingual screen |
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CGI659 |
thnks guys |
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CGI659 |
is it possible to do multilingual cataloging |
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brendan |
See you all later - enjoy that day |
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richard |
hi |
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rhcl |
@seen wizzyrea |
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munin |
rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 59 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> at least this week. |
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rhcl |
@seen kyle |
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munin |
rhcl: kyle was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <kyle> A late thought, instead of having a version number battle, why not move to a date based versioning system like Ubuntu? Koha 9.12? |
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rhcl |
@seen chris |
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munin |
rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <chris> ok, pain killers kicking in, back to sleep i go |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl: oh hai... oh, nm |
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wizzyrea |
bye |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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brendan |
hola #koha |
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jwagner |
Sorry, I thought that said hula. Was having visions of everyone on the beach in Hawaii..... |
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brendan |
heh :) |
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owen |
Anyone here familiar with the GetMarcBiblio() function? |
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owen |
I'd like Lists in the OPAC to show subtitle as well as title |
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owen |
The way I know to do that is to use C4::Biblio::get_koha_field_from_marc() |
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owen |
But the places I've seen that in use pass a $record variable created by doing my $record = GetMarcBiblio() |
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owen |
But I'm not sure that's the right thing to do here, concerned about the overhead of doing that when looping through list contents |
| 20:13 |
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collum |
Someone just posted a bunch of "open source" questions to Horizon-L. Suggested they post to the Koha or Evergreen lists instead. We'll see. |
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rhcl_lunch |
liz, you there? |
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| 20:34 |
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rhcl |
Does anybody wanna talk politics? |
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* owen |
would normally game, but it's quittin' time! |
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rhcl |
Ohhh, you're gonna miss out... |
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rhcl |
Does anybody know if the Crawford County Fed Library system is part of WALDO? |
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jwagner |
That's Kyle's site, isn't it? Pennsylvania? I doubt it's part of WALDO. |
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collum |
They are not listed on http://www.waldolib.org/members.asp |
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rhcl |
Well, now that there seems to be signs of life...I've been looking over the WALDO website, and I don't see anything particularly that states any interest in open source. |
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rhcl |
Their range of interest, however, is somewhat broader than I had imagined... |
| 20:46 |
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rhcl |
Do you suppose it's possible they were a unit in search of a mission...ooops, that's military...an organization in search of an ILS that they could acquire primarily for their members... |
| 20:46 |
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rhcl |
saw Koha, and said "Let's buy that one?" |
| 20:49 |
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collum |
I'm not sure that I can speculate on their intention, but that seems to be the result. |
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rhcl |
Here's a snip that almost reads like they are a clearing house for products for their members: |
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rhcl |
"information regarding updated pricing, new products, special offers, content changes, or other information on products offered through WALDO" |
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collum |
Just read some history. It's interesting that they were on PALs before Koha. (http://www.facebook.com/note.p[…]_id=136031146335) |
| 20:53 |
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rhcl |
...reading... |
| 20:55 |
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rhcl |
...seems like they wanted to buy Evergreen...reading... |
| 20:59 |
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rhcl |
...not sure what to make of that post |
| 21:00 |
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rhcl |
except that was 1.75 years ago... |
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collum |
Yep. Can't find anything more recent, except for LL announements. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, conspiracy! |
| 21:05 |
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wizzyrea |
so you're thinking that LL is perhaps the unwitting recipient of a grand scheme for WALDO to take over Koha? |
| 21:05 |
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wizzyrea |
they must have some very convincing folks :P |
| 21:05 |
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wizzyrea |
ok, back into my hole |
| 21:06 |
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rhcl |
Liz speaks! |
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collum |
:) |
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collum |
I doubt there was a conspiracy, but it would make a great Library Mystery Novella. |
| 21:08 |
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rhcl |
Liz, what patron access system are you using? |
| 21:19 |
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wizzyrea |
where we have it, we are using LibraryMetricks, and loathe it, for the most part |
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wizzyrea |
we would like to look at libki but are totally snowed at the moment |
| 21:21 |
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rhcl |
Well, we just brought up a libki client, and have been playing with the system. I really like most of what I see, except it needs a few additional features. |
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rhcl |
I don't know if my tech assistant and I are smart enough to start writing php or not. We had actually hoped to start looking at Koha code sometime with the thought of working on some easy bugs. |
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rhcl |
But libki is really really responsive...much quicker than some of the systems we've played with |
| 21:22 |
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rhcl |
most things seem to work "as advertised", and it's pretty, which is important for staff acceptance. |
| 21:23 |
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wizzyrea |
hee |
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rhcl |
The "koha" integration thingee will let you click on a logged-on (or logged off) user and take you directly to their koha profile |
| 21:23 |
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wizzyrea |
that is hotness |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, we have some places using cybraryn, and one place using envisionware |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
now that I think about it for more than 2 seconds |
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rhcl |
A couple of features that we see right off that it needs is a "multiple login" check, where a user can only be logged into one position at at time (we have kids that love to share their lib card) |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
Ahh, yea, we run into that too |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
php, I feel, is not particularly daunting |
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rhcl |
and it needs to do a SIP check to check if a patron profile is authorized access to the internet. For example, if a user is <17 yo, then they need to have signed parental permission for the Internet |
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rhcl |
and we use a profile like "juvOK" (in Sirsi) for that. I'm not sure that libki does any checks like that, although SIP will return that profile type. |
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wizzyrea |
Ahhh |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that kind of stuff would be handy as well |
| 21:32 |
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rhcl |
Kyle's install instructions are excellent, too. |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, he's a top notch gentleman when it comes to thoroughness |
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rhcl |
You can almost cookbook the install. |
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rhcl |
I have vacillated several times over the past couple of years over whether a server-client or distributed database is a better solution for this type of application. |
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rhcl |
Distributed databases can be slow to update and propagate changes (in my limited experience). |
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rhcl |
Is a Koha "patron category" analogous to a Sirsi "patron type"? |
| 21:39 |
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jwagner |
pretty much, yeah. |
| 21:39 |
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jwagner |
I haven't looked at a Sirsi system in a while, but I think Koha patron categories have more settings. |
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rhcl |
Is it possible to add/change category type? The drop down list seems to be fixed to "adult", "child", et al. |
| 21:40 |
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jwagner |
No, that's a downer. It's hardcoded somewhere. |
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wizzyrea |
those arenn't authorized values? |
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* wizzyrea |
goes back to her hole |
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jwagner |
Come out of that hole, it's not groundhog day yet. No, I remember looking for those & I'm pretty sure they're hardcoded. |
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rhcl |
Well, I also see a "code" for "patron category" but it doesn't seem easy to change that for a patron once created. For example, if we need to check for a juvenile user with parental permission to use the internet... |
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rhcl |
we use the "patron type" juvOK. But if we tried to do that in Koha, when this user turned 17, then we need to change the "patron type" to adult. Maybe I just don't see how to do that, however. |
| 21:45 |
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rhcl |
or even better, it should do a date of birth check periodically and change all the juvenile user patron types to adult |
| 21:45 |
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rhcl |
that's a non-librarian speaking, however |
| 21:46 |
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jwagner |
When you're in the patron record, under the More button, Update Child to Adult Patron? |
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rhcl |
I think I need to start looking at the SIP code and see all the values that koha can return. |
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rhcl |
jwagner: does that only show up if you have a child patron? We are just testing koha still and don't have a child patron, but we don't see that option... |
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rhcl |
but we're creating one now to test it |
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jwagner |
I looked at an adult patron & it was there but grayed out. Probably only active in a child record. |
| 21:50 |
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rhcl |
yep, I sees it |
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rhcl |
I see that there is a php-sip class (not a surprise) |
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wizzyrea |
ohh, don't you just hate it when you run out of steam |
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wizzyrea |
I was doing so well |
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wizzyrea |
and then pflapff |
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rhcl |
coffee |
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wizzyrea |
yea, not sure that would help |
| 22:54 |
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wizzyrea |
but a good suggestion. |
| 22:54 |
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wizzyrea |
it's so lonely when everyone's on vacay |
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rhcl |
for real |
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rhcl |
is chris sick or something? |
| 22:55 |
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wizzyrea |
not sure |
| 22:55 |
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wizzyrea |
he may be on a koha vacay as dictated by his wife :) |
| 22:55 |
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rhcl |
munin says he was taking pain killers |
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munin |
rhcl: Error: "says" is not a valid command. |
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rhcl |
@seen chris |
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munin |
rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 1 day, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <chris> ok, pain killers kicking in, back to sleep i go |
| 22:55 |
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wizzyrea |
true, though he tweeted last night about a big day of adventures |
| 22:56 |
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wizzyrea |
so I'd imagine he's just enjoying the summer :) |
| 22:56 |
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rhcl |
then apparently the pain meds worked :) |
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* wizzyrea |
totally digs the idea of summer xmas |
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rhcl |
yea, pictures of snow work fine for me |
| 22:57 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm thinking take the 6 months when the weather sucks, and move to the other hemisphere |
| 22:57 |
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wizzyrea |
then you can live in a lovely temperate place all year round |
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rhcl |
Thailand |
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wizzyrea |
nah, not the tropics |
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wizzyrea |
hot, humid |
| 22:57 |
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wizzyrea |
euch |
| 22:57 |
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wizzyrea |
though they have very good food there |
| 22:58 |
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rhcl |
um, but lots of good things :) |
| 22:58 |
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wizzyrea |
everywhere has it's benefits lol |
| 22:58 |
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wizzyrea |
kansas city = bbq |
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wizzyrea |
lawrence = free state beer |
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rhcl |
yea, whish I could find Oklahoma Joe's |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
Buffalo new york = chicken wings |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
OH OH |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
I know where that is |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
was there a couple of weeks ago |
| 22:59 |
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rhcl |
yea, well, google doesn't |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
stupid googles |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
it's in a gas station |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe you drove past it |
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wizzyrea |
you'd never know it was a restaurant, there's hardly any signage |
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rhcl |
it's in a kinda largerish strip mall, right, towards the left end as you face it from outside? |
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wizzyrea |
they don't need to advertise lol |
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rhcl |
I was there once and can't find my way back |
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wizzyrea |
erm, it's a largish gas station |
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wizzyrea |
the door is towards the left |
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rhcl |
??? maybe I'm confusted |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?a[…]=66103&country=US |
| 23:01 |
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wizzyrea |
this is the one we went to |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
you may be thinking of the one on strang line |
| 23:02 |
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rhcl |
I got a new GPS for Christmas, maybe I should try it out |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
basically, you get off on misison road, head south to 47th |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
it's on the corner |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
*get off of I-35 |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
ok, gotta go, brain made of toast |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
if you get tomorrow off, lucky you :) |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
but otherwise I'll ttyl, because I'll be here |
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rhcl |
ok, lrt |
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rhcl |
ltr |
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SelfishMan |
Ok, odd question and I'm pretty sure I know the answer |
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SelfishMan |
but does the foundation officially exist *right now*? |
