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* chris_n2 |
wanders in and looks around |
| 03:00 |
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* chilts |
sees chris_n2 wander in and look around |
| 03:07 |
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chris_n2 |
hi andy |
| 03:10 |
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SelfishMan |
multiple chris* nicks confuses me |
| 03:11 |
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chris |
i only have the one :) |
| 03:11 |
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* chris_n2 |
is also chris_n |
| 03:11 |
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chilts |
lol |
| 03:11 |
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chris_n2 |
vpn is too latent for me to deal with |
| 03:11 |
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chilts |
so my Post-Christmas resolution (seeing as I don't do New Year's ones), get Koha going at home and damn well fix somethign :) |
| 03:11 |
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chilts |
think I missed getting a commit number under 100 :) |
| 03:11 |
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chilts |
maybe 101 is good though |
| 03:12 |
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SelfishMan |
there are three chris* nicks? I just got used to two! |
| 03:12 |
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chris_n2 |
my resolution to get koha going on win32 by year's end is fading fast |
| 03:12 |
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chilts |
:( |
| 03:12 |
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chilts |
good luck! |
| 03:12 |
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SelfishMan |
chris_n2: What flavor of perl? |
| 03:12 |
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chris_n2 |
SelfishMan: earlier there were four chris* nicks |
| 03:12 |
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chris_n2 |
strawberry |
| 03:13 |
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SelfishMan |
I haven't played with strawberry yet. Does it have full support for Time:HiRes yet? |
| 03:13 |
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chris_n2 |
the maintainers worked with me last month to get several changes made in the January 2010 build necessary to run koha |
| 03:13 |
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chris_n2 |
I'm not sure about that |
| 03:14 |
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SelfishMan |
That is one of the things that always amazed me about activestate and vanilla perl was that Time::HiRes was not useable |
| 03:14 |
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SelfishMan |
Even more amazed by that fact that there was no alarm support |
| 03:14 |
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chris_n2 |
right now I'm trying to fight through figuring out why a single directory install of koha runs fine, but a dev install causes apache to bork when calling /cgi-bin/ pages |
| 03:15 |
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chris_n2 |
motivation has been low for the last several weeks, however :-P |
| 03:16 |
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SelfishMan |
Is there a release date for 3.2 yet? Not sure if I missed that discussion |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
nope |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n2 |
SelfishMan: cpan Time::HiRes says "Time::HiRes is up to date (1.9719)." |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
http://2tu.us/gqg |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n2 |
it appears to be a core module on strawberry |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
gotta kill those blockers and criticals (to be fair, most of them have patches waiting to be pushed) |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
and then it will be sometime after that |
| 03:18 |
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SelfishMan |
chris_n2: ok. just making sure. Had a library tell me they wanted to upgrade to 3.2 today but I don't remember it being scheduled for release yet. |
| 03:19 |
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* chris_n2 |
wonders if the bugs with patches waiting are marked as such |
| 03:19 |
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chris |
they are |
| 03:19 |
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chris |
using the priority column |
| 03:19 |
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chris |
so when they get pushed, someone gets to test and close them :) |
| 03:20 |
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chris_n2 |
any thoughts on why "http://localhost:8080/index.html" works fine, but "http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]ols/tools-home.pl" causes apache to throw a 500 error? |
| 03:20 |
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chris_n2 |
same thing works fine with a single directory install |
| 03:20 |
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chris |
SelfishMan: we don't really do dates .. we aimed to get 3.2 out by the end of the year, but that wont happen .. but it will be out as soon as we can fix the bugs |
| 03:20 |
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chris |
chris_n2: whats the error in the log? |
| 03:21 |
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chris |
the main apache2 error log that is |
| 03:21 |
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chris_n2 |
nothing... that's the thing... just a line for the 500 error in the access log |
| 03:21 |
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* chris_n2 |
hates silent fails |
| 03:22 |
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pastebot |
"chris_n2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "access.log" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/102 |
| 03:23 |
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chris_n2 |
last entries in the error log are from 16 dec... :-( |
| 03:24 |
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chris |
not the koha error log either? |
| 03:26 |
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chris_n2 |
yes |
| 03:26 |
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chris_n2 |
there are |
| 03:27 |
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* chris_n2 |
suddenly remembers where he was four weeks ago in the debugging |
| 03:28 |
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chris |
:) |
| 03:28 |
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pastebot |
"chris_n2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "koha-error_log" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/103 |
| 03:28 |
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chris_n2 |
it appears to be pathing, but again, the only change here is the dev install vs. single dir install |
| 03:29 |
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chris_n2 |
C4 is located in C:/DOCUME~1/CHRIS/MYDOCU~1/koha-test/lib/ |
| 03:29 |
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chris |
and the SetEnv is right? |
| 03:30 |
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chris_n2 |
SetEnv PERL5LIB "C:/DOCUME~1/CHRIS/MYDOCU~1/koha-test/lib/" |
| 03:30 |
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SelfishMan |
chris: That's what I remember but they were convinced that 3.2 was out |
| 03:30 |
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SelfishMan |
Just needed to figure out which of us was on crack :--P |
| 03:30 |
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chris |
SelfishMan: heh, funny, maybe they were confused with 3.0.2 |
| 03:32 |
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chris_n2 |
I've been trying to get it running as a dev install to ease getting my work into my git repo |
| 03:32 |
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chris_n2 |
it's a chore to manually move each change from the single dir into my win32 repo |
| 03:33 |
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chris |
you cant do symlinks in windows eh? |
| 03:33 |
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SelfishMan |
sure you can |
| 03:34 |
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SelfishMan |
They are called "junctions" and can be a little funky |
| 03:35 |
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chris_n2 |
what SelfishMan said :-) |
| 03:35 |
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chris_n2 |
funky is definitely the word |
| 03:35 |
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* chris_n2 |
wonders what part of windows is *not* funky |
| 03:36 |
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SelfishMan |
The first thing I learned about junctions is to *never* remove the target before removing the junction |
| 03:36 |
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chris |
right time to pick up kids |
| 03:36 |
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chris |
spotyas later |
| 03:36 |
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chris_n2 |
and time for bed here |
| 03:36 |
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chris_n2 |
g'night |
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Amit |
heya brendan, chris |
| 03:38 |
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Amit |
good morning all |
| 04:00 |
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brendan |
hi amit |
| 04:00 |
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brendan |
good evening |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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nicomo |
morning Ropuch |
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hdl_laptop |
hi all |
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Ropuch |
Hello |
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Amit |
heya nicomo, ropuch |
| 10:15 |
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Ropuch |
Hi amit |
| 10:19 |
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Ropuch |
Huh, I was just wondering how tiny dryed grapes are called in english |
| 10:19 |
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Ropuch |
I remeber "raisins" from sezame street ;> |
| 10:20 |
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Ropuch |
But querying some dictionaries gave me: tidbit, plum |
| 10:20 |
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Ropuch |
Thank you, google image! ;> |
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nengard |
happpy christmas eve eve everyone :) |
| 13:16 |
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jwagner |
And to you. |
| 13:19 |
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magnusenger |
to you too! |
| 13:19 |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: hapy xmas eve |
| 13:29 |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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hilongo |
happy christmas eve eve to you too... and to all :) |
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| 13:42 |
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nengard |
so - today i'm going through pianohacker's updated sys prefs branch - i have to say i like it more and more the more i use it :) |
| 13:44 |
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owen |
nengard: You got tired of waiting and set up a special branch to test? |
| 13:44 |
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nengard |
yeah |
| 13:44 |
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nengard |
cause hdl_laptop gave me some detailed instructions for setting up a new branch and not losing HEAD :) |
| 13:44 |
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nengard |
I can share them with you too if you want |
| 13:45 |
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owen |
I think I'd better not...plenty of things to keep me occupied today without new shiny distractions |
| 13:52 |
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jwagner |
New toys! new toys! |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: I want to make an open testing interface so that one can test. |
| 13:54 |
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nengard |
cool |
| 13:56 |
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chris_n |
bye chris_n2 |
| 13:57 |
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* chris_n |
wonders if his 3 year old is playing with the keyboard at home again :-) |
| 13:58 |
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jwagner |
But Daddy plays with it, why can't I??? |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 14:09 |
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chris_n |
paul_p++ #for the "too many sysprefs" observation |
| 14:10 |
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chris_n |
jwagner: if chris_n2 suddenly starts typing things unintelligible, you'll know what happened ;-) |
| 14:12 |
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jwagner |
Yep. Unfortunately, most of us don't have that excuse.... |
| 14:13 |
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jwagner |
chris_n, not sure I agree with paul_p and you -- I think allowing anonymous suggestions and allowing reading history anonymizing are two different functions. Libraries should have the either/both choice. I think both sysprefs should stay. |
| 14:13 |
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paul_p |
jwagner: activating them is another thing. This one is just to say which patron is the "anonymous patron". |
| 14:14 |
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chris_n |
my complaint about too many sysprefs is more general rather than directed so much at this particular instance |
| 14:14 |
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paul_p |
so, we have 3 : sugg yes/no, readinghistOptIn yes/No, AnonymousPatronName Number |
| 14:14 |
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jwagner |
paul_p, in that case, I'm OK with it. Just don't want to lose the granularity of control. |
| 14:15 |
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jwagner |
Personally, I like more sysprefs. The more control we give the library, the happier they'll be and the less customizing we might have to do. So long as the sysprefs are documented and don't clash with each other, the more the merrier! |
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chris_n |
jwanger: I've been thinking of a feature which would allow some sysprefs to be set on a per user basis (those that are appropriate for that sort of thing) |
| 14:31 |
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nengard |
chris_n & paul_p I don't agree - more preferences means more control for the librarians - and that's a good thing :) and pianohacker's sys prefs edits makes it much easier to navaigate |
| 14:32 |
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nengard |
paul_p i'm confused - suggestion just says whether to allow suggestions at all |
| 14:32 |
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jwagner |
chris_n, I think that would be very advisable. There are some sysprefs that the library really _shouldn't_ mess with, and others, like all the opac text blocks, that they can change to their heart's content. If we could group the "don't touch" ones somewhere and isolate a permission for them, that would be great. |
| 14:32 |
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* chris_n |
's main concern has been the hither-to-fore confusion and general lack of understandable explanation of sysprefs in general |
| 14:33 |
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chris_n |
but nengard's work should fix most of that and stop my griping ;-) |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
paul_p - so if i have suggestion on but want the suggestions to be anonymous i set anonsuggestion |
| 14:33 |
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jwagner |
I do think many of the sysprefs need better documentation. |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
jwagner - working on it :) |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
help always appreciated |
| 14:35 |
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chris_n |
some sort of syspref development standard which could be enforced on patches containing new sysprefs might also help keep the poison out of the pot of sysprefs |
| 14:35 |
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chris_n |
and keep work like is having to be done now down to a minimum |
| 14:35 |
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owen |
An iron-fisted RM could help |
| 14:36 |
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* chris_n |
tries to imagine gmcharlt with an iron fist, glibly smashing patches into little pieces :-) |
| 14:36 |
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jwagner |
Nah, gmcharlt is more the velvet glove type. Keep the iron fist out of sight, but available :-) |
| 14:37 |
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gmcharlt |
*snort* |
| 14:37 |
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owen |
Oooh, what color are they gmcharlt ? |
| 14:37 |
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chris_n |
I think development standards in general should move up to near the top of the list after our 3.2 release |
| 14:37 |
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jwagner |
I vote we all present gmcharlt an Order of the Iron Fist plaque when he retires from his present role. |
| 14:38 |
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chris_n |
they could save lots of time |
| 14:38 |
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gmcharlt |
owen: fuligin, naturally |
| 14:41 |
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* owen |
runs off the look up fuligin |
| 14:52 |
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chris_n |
@dict fuligin |
| 14:52 |
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munin |
chris_n: No definition for "fuligin" could be found. |
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nengard |
owen added you to a bug - i thought it was a circ issue -but now i'm almost positive it's a design issue |
| 15:04 |
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nengard |
done testing an documenting the new sys prefs branch - i think :) |
| 15:11 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: hi |
| 15:25 |
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| 15:38 |
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jwagner |
Got a report puzzler for you -- I'm trying to run a select * from borrowers where cardnumber like 'e%' but when I save the report, it's cutting it off at like 'e -- leaving off the % and the closing ' Any ideas why? |
| 15:40 |
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nengard |
jwagner sounds like an HTML filtering issue on the textarea ... |
| 15:40 |
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nengard |
off to try it myself |
| 15:41 |
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owen |
Some kind of sanitize routine that gets run on SQL submissions? |
| 15:41 |
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nengard |
jwagner and owen - it works for me ... |
| 15:41 |
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jwagner |
Don't know. This is a pretty old version of Koha, maybe a bug that got fixed in the meantime. |
| 15:41 |
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nengard |
on the most recent version of head |
| 15:42 |
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owen |
I've got a question about adding budgets. On the add budget form (admin/aqbudgets.pl) there is a hint that says "Budget amount cannot both be empty" |
| 15:42 |
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jwagner |
It does the same thing with a contains 'e' -- cuts off the closing ' |
| 15:42 |
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nengard |
yeah - i think i put a bug in for that owen - it's a language issue |
| 15:42 |
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owen |
nengard: So the "both" is superfluous? |
| 15:42 |
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owen |
Or "amound" and something else cannot both be empty? |
| 15:42 |
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nengard |
or there is another field that can't be blank that's missing |
| 15:43 |
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nengard |
not sure which |
| 15:43 |
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nengard |
owen - it wasn't a bug report - it was an email to the mailing list that was never answered -- |
| 15:43 |
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nengard |
off to put it in as a bug that you can watch |
| 15:43 |
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owen |
Maybe hdl_laptop or nahuel know the answer? |
| 15:44 |
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nahuel |
abotu what ? |
| 15:44 |
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nahuel |
about |
| 15:44 |
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nengard |
Bug 3998 |
| 15:44 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3998 normal, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, Confusing warning on budget add page |
| 15:44 |
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owen |
nahuel: On admin/aqbudgets.pl |
| 15:45 |
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nahuel |
oh right |
| 15:45 |
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nahuel |
it's on new acquisition module ? |
| 15:45 |
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nengard |
yes |
| 15:47 |
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nahuel |
2s |
| 15:50 |
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nahuel |
I don't find the message in templates... |
| 15:50 |
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owen |
"Budget amount cannot both be empty" |
| 15:51 |
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nahuel |
oh 2s |
| 15:51 |
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nahuel |
:) |
| 15:53 |
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nahuel |
$ grep -ir 'cannot both' koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ |
| 15:53 |
|
nahuel |
doesn't return anything... |
| 15:53 |
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owen |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]9ea39fd8b;hb=HEAD |
| 15:53 |
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owen |
Line 284 |
| 15:56 |
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nahuel |
2s i'm rebasing |
| 16:00 |
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nahuel |
I got it ! |
| 16:01 |
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nahuel |
So |
| 16:02 |
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nahuel |
hmmm |
| 16:04 |
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nahuel |
ok |
| 16:04 |
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nahuel |
"both" can be deleted |
| 16:04 |
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nahuel |
if you want to do the patch |
| 16:05 |
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owen |
If budget amount cannot be empty, shouldn't it be a required field like budget name is? |
| 16:05 |
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nahuel |
no |
| 16:06 |
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nahuel |
It's an old stuff |
| 16:06 |
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nahuel |
Before you had to choose 2 budgets |
| 16:06 |
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nahuel |
now you have only one |
| 16:06 |
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owen |
So the whole message can be removed? |
| 16:06 |
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nahuel |
hmmm |
| 16:06 |
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nahuel |
Depends :) |
| 16:06 |
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paul_p |
owen: probably right |
| 16:07 |
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nahuel |
amount me be filled |
| 16:07 |
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nahuel |
as I know |
| 16:07 |
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wizzyrea |
nahuel: I have a question about bug 3950, is it related to 3270? |
| 16:07 |
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owen |
So it's okay to create a budget with no amount? |
| 16:07 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3950 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Pending reserve problems |
| 16:08 |
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wizzyrea |
(because if you fixed that, I will... I'm not sure, but it will be a huge thanks) |
| 16:08 |
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nahuel |
owen, no you can't |
| 16:08 |
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nahuel |
wizzyrea, I fixed it today |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
it was REALLY hard |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
:) |
| 16:09 |
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owen |
Then budget amount *should* be a required field? |
| 16:09 |
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* wizzyrea |
squees with joy |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
I have a question for US people : how many holds a library have? |
| 16:09 |
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wizzyrea |
lots |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
lots is like how much ? |
| 16:09 |
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wizzyrea |
hundreds a day |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
200 ? |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
1000 ? |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
10 000 ? |
| 16:10 |
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wizzyrea |
you know, I'm not sure how to measure that |
| 16:10 |
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wizzyrea |
items on the holds queue for the day? Items waiting in the queue |
| 16:10 |
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wizzyrea |
? |
| 16:10 |
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nengard |
nahuel owen - my head hurts - what does the note mean and do we need it? |
| 16:10 |
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nahuel |
wizzyrea, items that should be in pending reserves :) |
| 16:10 |
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wizzyrea |
Ahh... lemme see if I can get a current snapshot of that, sec |
| 16:10 |
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nahuel |
nengard, The "amount" *must* be specified |
| 16:11 |
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owen |
Thanks nahuel, I'll see about including that in the work I'm doing on that template right now |
| 16:11 |
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nengard |
so it should be required and we can remove the note |
| 16:11 |
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nahuel |
ok cool :) |
| 16:12 |
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owen |
select count(*) from reserves where found IS NULL ? |
| 16:12 |
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owen |
Hmmm... and maybe add "and cancellation date is not null" ? |
| 16:14 |
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owen |
No, that turns up nothing |
| 16:14 |
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nahuel |
héhé |
| 16:14 |
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nahuel |
no owen |
| 16:14 |
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nahuel |
"and cancellationdate IS null" :) |
| 16:15 |
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owen |
Of course. But it doesn't look like it makes a difference to check cancellation date. I get the same result: 2726 |
| 16:16 |
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jwagner |
nahuel, one of my sites can have several hundred holds in a day, maybe getting close to 1,000. We've done some work on pendingreserves ourselves, trying to speed it up for them. Not finished with that yet -- our programmer is looking at your patch to see if we're taking the same approach. |
| 16:17 |
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nahuel |
owen, me too :) |
| 16:17 |
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nahuel |
jwagner, I don't think |
| 16:17 |
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nahuel |
Mine is slower, but not hang the browser |
| 16:17 |
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nahuel |
It use some AJAX |
| 16:18 |
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nahuel |
for 1700 holds it took 20s to show the result |
| 16:18 |
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nahuel |
it have pagination |
| 16:18 |
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nahuel |
and filtering |
| 16:19 |
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owen |
We may have 2726 holds but we never look at a list of all of them. |
| 16:19 |
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nahuel |
In pending reserve, i'll add a CSV export |
| 16:20 |
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nahuel |
to allow librarians to print it |
| 16:20 |
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wizzyrea |
2918 here |
| 16:20 |
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wizzyrea |
omg nahuel |
| 16:20 |
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wizzyrea |
i love you. |
| 16:20 |
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nahuel |
ahah |
| 16:21 |
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owen |
She says that nahuel, but she never calls on Valentine's Day. |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
well I didn't want to annoy your wife |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 16:21 |
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paul_p |
nahuel: i'll copy/paste the chat to Delphine :D |
| 16:21 |
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nahuel |
You can |
| 16:21 |
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nahuel |
I have a lot of "in-love" friends |
| 16:21 |
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nahuel |
:p |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
Wife vs. Some random koha person... wife winds |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
wins* |
| 16:21 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 16:22 |
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wizzyrea |
wife crits you for 9999 |
| 16:22 |
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wizzyrea |
you die. |
| 16:22 |
|
* chris_n |
gets bug #3999 |
| 16:22 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3999 major, P5, ---, cnighswongerfoundations.edu, NEW, Create Batch on Marc Import Tool Does nothing |
| 16:22 |
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chris_n |
tnx nengard :-) |
| 16:22 |
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nengard |
no prob |
| 16:22 |
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wizzyrea |
there's one last thing about pending reserves |
| 16:23 |
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nahuel |
yep ? |
| 16:23 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not sure we've filed a bug, it's kind of more of a fringe case |
| 16:23 |
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wizzyrea |
where the only item with a hold placed on it is missing |
| 16:24 |
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wizzyrea |
the reserves system shouldn't allow that |
| 16:24 |
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nahuel |
you're right :) |
| 16:25 |
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wizzyrea |
to be perfectly clear, this is a situation where a bib has only one item, and it's lost |
| 16:25 |
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owen |
What did I accidentally type to make mysql ask, "Display all 2786 possibilities? (y or n)" |
| 16:26 |
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nahuel |
héhé |
| 16:26 |
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nahuel |
"tab" |
| 16:26 |
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owen |
Oh, "tab" twice :) |
| 16:26 |
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nahuel |
héhé like in a shell |
| 16:27 |
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jwagner |
I don't think we've submitted it yet, but we've created a field in the reserves table for expiration date instead of calculating on the fly. This allows filtering etc. We also created a script to automatically transfer expired holds to old_reserves. |
| 16:28 |
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nahuel |
What about if you change the expiry delay ? |
| 16:28 |
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jwagner |
It records the expiration date as of the setting when the hold is triggered. |
| 16:30 |
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nahuel |
it don't update fields ? |
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jwagner |
You mean if someone changes the syspref? No. We have a site that changes the syspref at intervals (don't ask) but the expiration date should always be based on what was in effect when the hold was triggered. |
| 16:34 |
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nahuel |
héhé in 3.4 this won't be a syspref anymore |
| 16:35 |
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nahuel |
it'll be in issuingrules/smartrules |
| 16:35 |
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nahuel |
each library will be able to choose his delay |
| 16:39 |
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hdl_laptop |
pianohacker around ? |
| 16:41 |
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chris_n |
@seen pianohacker |
| 16:41 |
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munin |
chris_n: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <pianohacker> Good night, #koha |
| 16:44 |
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owen |
@seen pianohackr|work |
| 16:44 |
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munin |
owen: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you |
| 16:45 |
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owen |
Hmmm.. I guess munin doesn't know you were here unless you said something. |
| 16:45 |
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nengard |
heh - sometimes those last quotes are just funny |
| 16:45 |
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chris_n |
@quote add <pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you |
| 16:45 |
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munin |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #50 added. |
| 16:46 |
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* chris_n |
is sorry he missed seeing that one live ;-) |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]+Brown+Christmas/ |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
merry christmas everybody |
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owen |
nahuel: I'm curious about the jquery "treeTable" scripts in aqbudgets.tmpl |
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owen |
Under what conditions does something on that page display as a tree? |
| 16:51 |
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owen |
I've tried adding a sub-budget, thinking that would be it, but my sub-budget displays the same as other budgets |
| 16:51 |
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nahuel |
owen, with big tree between budgets |
| 16:52 |
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nahuel |
sub-budgets with sub-budgets with sub-budgets |
| 16:53 |
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owen |
nahuel: If I have a sub-budget with a sub-budget, should I see the tree view automatically? |
| 16:53 |
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nahuel |
theoricaly yes :) |
| 16:54 |
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* owen |
doesn't see it :( |
| 16:54 |
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nahuel |
oh, tomorrow i'll take a look |
| 16:55 |
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owen |
Okay, I'll file a bug |
| 16:55 |
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nahuel |
ping me to remind me :) |
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owen |
Bug 4000! |
| 17:00 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4000 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, NEW, Budgets table doesn't show tree view for sub-budgets |
| 17:02 |
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jwagner |
That's some kind of milestone. Not sure if it's good or bad.... |
| 17:04 |
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owen |
I'd like to see a graph of open bug reports over time. Hopefully that would not be a steadily rising line. |
| 17:07 |
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chris |
it does rise, mainly because we are bad at marking bugs resolved/closed not because we arent fixing them |
| 17:07 |
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owen |
nengard will have made a difference with her recent work |
| 17:07 |
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chris |
hence the desire for 3.4 to come with a bug wrangler to do that |
| 17:07 |
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chris |
yep |
| 17:08 |
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chris |
also enhancements ... often just keep growing and don't get checked again |
| 17:08 |
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chris |
even when they have actually now been implemented, or it no longer makes sense |
| 17:11 |
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chris |
nahuel: was your patch for 3536 meant for master or 3.0.x ? it does the updatedatabase for 3.0.x ... shall i make one for master too? |
| 17:11 |
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* chris_n |
hates it when he gets the assignment operator swapped with a logical equality >:-( |
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paul_p |
chris: nahuel just left |
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paul_p |
chris: Merry Christmas to you ! (it's 24th for you isn't it ;-) ) |
| 17:14 |
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* paul_p |
head home now (6:15PM in France) |
| 17:14 |
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chris_n |
bye paul_p |
| 17:14 |
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paul_p |
see you tomorrow. Next week will be an internet-less one ! |
| 17:15 |
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* chris_n |
too (next week) |
| 17:17 |
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chris |
cya |
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indradg |
Merry Christmas to all at #koha |
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| 17:36 |
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nengard |
owen - yeah - i did the best i could - some bugs weren't even marked as patch sent - so i may have not tested some that were done because of that |
| 17:37 |
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nengard |
i think bugzilla could make things a little easier - but i like it better than other systems i've used |
| 17:37 |
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owen |
it takes some discipline on everyone's part to make sure the process works well. |
| 17:38 |
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owen |
If only Bugzilla could prevent you from marking something as patch-sent if there are not patches attached. |
| 17:38 |
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nengard |
i'd like a way to mark it assigned, patch sent and attach the patch in one move |
| 17:39 |
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nengard |
see if bugzilla made it easier maybe more people would do it |
| 17:39 |
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nengard |
who knows |
| 17:39 |
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chris |
i doubt it |
| 17:39 |
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nengard |
LOL |
| 17:39 |
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chris |
seriously |
| 17:39 |
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nengard |
well - i'd appreciate it :) making my life easier as one of the good kids just seems fair |
| 17:40 |
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nengard |
or a way to add multiple attachments at once - that would also be nice |
| 17:40 |
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nengard |
i try to be detailed and provide images - but sometimes i just don't cause of how annoying it is to do |
| 17:40 |
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chris |
there are probably enhancements filed for that |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: you could use screencast/jing and keep them all online and just link to them there |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
instead of uploading to bugzilla |
| 17:41 |
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nengard |
bleh - still another step |
| 17:42 |
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nengard |
hehe |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
hm, my experience with jing is screencap, add arrows or whatever, say save to screencast and it is ready to paste the link |
| 17:42 |
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nengard |
i'm not a fan of jing in general - not sure what it is - but it bugs me |
| 17:42 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
which seems easier than taking the screencap, adding arrows, saving, uploading into bugzilla |
| 17:43 |
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chris |
basically what we need the bug wrangler to do, i forget who volunteered for that |
| 17:43 |
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chris |
lemme look |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
ah, well you're entitled to your opinion :D |
| 17:43 |
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nengard |
several people did |
| 17:43 |
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nengard |
volunteer for the bug wrangler job |
| 17:43 |
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chris |
jesse or calyx |
| 17:43 |
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chris |
to nag people |
| 17:44 |
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chris |
attach your patch, add more info |
| 17:44 |
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chris |
there are bugs that i just go, what? and move on |
| 17:44 |
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chris |
if a developer cant figure out what you mean ... they will just move on .. more info is always better |
| 17:45 |
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chris |
its a human problem, ppl are inherently bad at reporting bugs |
| 17:45 |
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owen |
Yeah, because if there is lower-hanging fruit it will be chosen first |
| 17:45 |
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chris |
and they just need someone to nag them into being good ;-) |
| 17:48 |
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nengard |
working as temp bug wrangler again - i'm good at nagging :) |
| 17:49 |
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chris |
:) |
| 17:50 |
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chris |
im too brutal to do bug wrangling, id just go these have been open more than 6 months, no one has done anything to them ... closed |
| 17:50 |
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nengard |
no no no |
| 17:51 |
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nengard |
the prob is there are so many patches waiting to be pushed - so i can't test them and close them until they're pushed |
| 17:51 |
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chris |
the mail will at least prompt people to reopen them and look at them if they really care |
| 17:51 |
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chris |
oh there are craploads of really old ones with no patches too |
| 17:52 |
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chris |
1199 open |
| 17:53 |
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chris |
304 of those have patches |
| 17:54 |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - who wrote this? http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]receipt-printers/ I want to add it to the manual with the proper credits |
| 17:56 |
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* chris_n |
finishes adding the ability to embed borrowers table fields into text lines on patron cards |
| 17:56 |
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chris_n |
and inches one step closer to the end |
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| 18:01 |
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nengard |
woo hoo - go chris_n |
| 18:02 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: pretty much everyone on the NExpress team had a hand in that one. I wrote it originally, Heather Braum edited it some, sharon did too |
| 18:02 |
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wizzyrea |
I think you can just credit NEKLS with it's creation |
| 18:02 |
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wizzyrea |
it was a team effort :P |
| 18:03 |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - okey dokey |
| 18:03 |
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wizzyrea |
most of our stuff is (except for the reports stuff, sharon does most of that) |
| 18:03 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 18:03 |
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nengard |
okay all - prepare to be flooded with bug emails if you subscribe to that list |
| 18:03 |
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nengard |
status changed to REMIND on all bugs that haven't been looked at since before 12-31-2008 |
| 18:04 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: did you see the patch I sent yesterday that sharon re-wrote some of the help in the reports module? |
| 18:04 |
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nengard |
yes i saw it - and i need to grab that text for the manual or i might end up overwriting it next time i edit that file :) |
| 18:05 |
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nengard |
i usually write those files based on the manual |
| 18:05 |
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wizzyrea |
or you can work them together |
| 18:05 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure she won't mind |
| 18:05 |
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nengard |
yeah - that's what i mean - i need to take her edits and add them to what i wrote in the manual :) |
| 18:05 |
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wizzyrea |
ah gotya |
| 18:05 |
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wizzyrea |
<- is a little slow today |
| 18:06 |
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nengard |
okay -- manual question for all on the chanel - should we have 2 manuals - one for useage and one for sys admin stuff? right now it's all in one manual - which i'm fine with - but i'm just wondering if we want 2 |
| 18:06 |
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nengard |
let the debating begin |
| 18:07 |
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chris |
i like 1 |
| 18:08 |
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chris |
otherwise you are gonna have to check 2 places everytime you arent sure |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
chris++ 1 manual please |
| 18:16 |
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* chris_n |
votes for 1 |
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* owen |
too |
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* owen |
is off |
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owen |
Merry Christmas everyone |
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nengard |
okay - adding it all to the one manual - |
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nengard |
hubby home - time for a break - be back later |
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zico |
hi |
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zico |
i just need an idea regarding koha-3.0.5 |
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zico |
i want to add "New arrival" in my opac |
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zico |
there... that "New Arrival" will just show the new arrivaled book`s image... say .. only 5 images |
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zico |
how can i do that? |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/node/624 |
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rhcl |
Cool. Pretty nice of ACLOU. |
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wizzyrea |
something like that zico? |
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zico |
wizzyrea: yep! xactly like this. :) |
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jwagner |
zico, jdavidb has worked on a feature for a new books list, not exactly like owen's, but controlled by sysprefs. With luck he can get that one pushed out fairly soon. |
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zico |
jwagner: is jdavidb here? |
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jwagner |
No, he's on vacation this week. |
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wizzyrea |
and a well deserved one at that |
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jwagner |
He was trying to sneak in and do some work this morning, but I growled at him. |
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wizzyrea |
good girl jwagner! |
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jwagner |
Doing it via chat doesn't have quite the emphasis of in-person looking-over-the-top-of-the-glasses, but it seems to work. |
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Ian |
hi folks, quick question: does the dev version of Koha work with MySQL 5.2? |
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zico |
ok.. guys.. i will check this tomorrow...and let you know... :) |
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zico |
need some sleep now! |
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wizzyrea |
Ian: afaik, dev koha works exactly the same as tarball koha in that regard |
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wizzyrea |
so if tarball koha works, dev should too. |
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* wizzyrea |
loves low hanging fruit |
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Ian |
thanks wizzyrea |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -3.1�C (2:58 PM CST on December 23, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST today... |
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wizzyrea |
hahaha http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
it's really too bad chris isn't here lol |
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* jwagner |
chortles |
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jwagner |
I think a LOT of people would appreciate that one. |
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jwagner |
In fact, I just sent it to a couple of them.... |
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* chris_n |
heads out to find food and become chris_n2 |
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IrmaCalyx |
Good morning all... |
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wizzyrea |
morning IrmaCalyx |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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rhcl |
Hi cait! |
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cait |
hi rhcl :) |
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cait |
zico around? |
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wizzyrea |
newp, he's gone |
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wizzyrea |
cait: I think I answered his question to the list, but I"m not sure |
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wizzyrea |
if I understood it correctly |
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cait |
hi liz |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
I wrote him the same... some days ago |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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wizzyrea |
oi |
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cait |
I m a little confused why he wrote to the mailing list again |
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wizzyrea |
his english may not be very good, he may not be understanding |
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wizzyrea |
hard to say |
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wizzyrea |
we'll get him sorted out eventually |
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cait |
thx for answering him :) and I need to tell him, Im not a he ;) |
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wizzyrea |
hee :) |
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wizzyrea |
well peeps, I may check in now and again over the long weekend, but if I don't talk to you, have a merry and safe holiday |
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wizzyrea |
I'm out, ttyl |
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cait |
oh now she is gone :) |
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cait |
@tell wizzyrea you were too fast for my typing - merry holidays to you too! |
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munin |
cait: Error: I haven't seen wizzyrea, I'll let you do the telling. |
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cait |
@later wizzyrea you were too fast for my typing - merry holidays to you too! |
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munin |
cait: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "wizzyrea" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
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cait |
@list later |
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munin |
cait: notes and tell |
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cait |
list later |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
difficult |
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cait |
@later |
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munin |
cait: Error: "later" is not a valid command. |
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* cait |
gives up |
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cait |
merry christmas #koha :) |
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