IRC log for #koha, 2009-12-18

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02:06 brendan @wunder 93117
02:06 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.9�C (6:02 PM PST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
02:06 brendan looks like we lost the NZ'ers
02:08 russ back now :-)
02:08 brendan hey great :)
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03:41 Amit heya brendan, chris
03:42 Amit good morning #koha
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04:35 CGI946 i get this error when i try to install koha in fedora; could somebody clarify: Installing /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/README Installing /var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/README Installing /var/run/koha/zebradb/README chown: invalid user: `koha:koha' make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1
04:36 CGI946 chris could u clarify my earlier query:?
04:39 CGI946 hi if nebody out there could clairfy this error in fedora: chown invalid user koha:koha make :*** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1
04:42 CGI946 brendan: could u clarify my earlier post
04:48 Amit hi CGI976
04:48 Amit have u created koha user
04:48 Amit ?
04:51 CGI946 hi amit
04:51 CGI946 yes i have created kohaadmin, koha accounts in mysql
04:51 Amit no create linux user koha
04:52 Amit CGI946: Create linux user koha
04:52 CGI946 oh so there should be a linux user account koha...
04:52 CGI946 ok i shall create.. and should i repeat all the steps logged in as koha in linux??
04:52 Amit yes
04:53 CGI946 and password should it be koha or anything of my choice...
04:53 Amit as your choice
04:54 CGI946 ok amit i shall create and repeat the probs i shall get back.. thanx for the info.
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05:23 CGI161 hi amit.. got through that koha ownerhsip error. but then the next command i execute... sudo -ln ... says  creating symbolic link `/etc/apache2/sites-available/koha': No such file or directory
05:24 CGI161 shud these directories be created under /etc as root user
05:25 CGI161 somebody could clarify my recent post...
05:53 CGI161 amit there?
05:53 Amit y
05:53 CGI161 hi amit.. got through that koha ownerhsip error. but then the next command i execute... sudo -ln ... says  creating symbolic link `/etc/apache2/sites-available/koha': No such file or directory
05:54 CGI161 shud these directories be created under /etc as root user
05:55 CGI161 amit my earlier post did it reahc?
05:57 Amit follow this
05:57 Amit[…]3165d30ded572cc8b
05:58 Amit chris: we have create live cd of koha on opensuse with zebra
05:58 CGI161 yep i shall go thru that page..... one more clarifiaction, in windows i have been able tos uccessfully how do i login as an administrator from another machine...i am able to access the opac page from client i do reach the admin page from clinet machines...
05:59 Amit localhost:8080
06:00 CGI161 the ip of machine:8080 would work?
06:03 Amit y
06:03 CGI161 lets say the machine where the software is installed is so to access the admin page should i give then there is no response...
06:08 CGI161 i give that localhost:8080 the system hangs with no response in the browser...
06:08 CGI161 but i am able to access the opac pages from other machines...
06:16 CGI161 amit ?
06:27 Amit go to koha-httpd.conf
06:28 Amit file and Listen 8080 port
06:49 CGI161 koa
06:49 CGI161 thanx amit..i shall try that...but i am not able to proceed with my installation in fedora....
06:51 CGI161 any other good help file for installation in fedora.... for example the command sudo a2enmod does not execute at all...
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07:19 Ropuch Morning #koha
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07:28 Amit heya ropuch
07:28 Ropuch Hi Amit
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07:52 kf morning #koha
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07:58 Ropuch guten Tag, kf
07:59 Ropuch
07:59 Ropuch [;
08:09 paul_p2 chris: about ?
08:12 paul_p2 @seen gmcharlt
08:12 munin paul_p2: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 49 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> Ropuch: that's fine
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08:15 Ropuch Hi paul_p2
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08:15 paul_p hi Ropuch, kf, Amit & munin
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08:26 Amit hi paul_p, kf
08:27 Amit @wunder Dehradun india
08:27 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 11.0�C (8:30 AM IST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa.
08:27 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw
08:27 munin Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -14.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:28 nicomo brr
08:28 nicomo @wunder lyon france
08:28 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is -2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
08:29 Kivutar @wunder marseille france
08:29 munin Kivutar: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:36 Amit heya nicomo
08:36 nicomo hi Amit
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08:58 Ropuch kf: what field is used for storing subject heading in german cataloging practice (you told me that once befero)
09:21 kf Ropuch: dresden?
09:21 kf hi paul_p and Amit
09:21 kf @wunder Konstanz
09:21 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.3�C (10:10 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
09:22 Ropuch kf: Tateadhe biggest photo in the world ;>
09:31 Amit @wunder Bangalore india
09:31 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 23.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 19.0�C.
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09:33 CGI167 amit i am not able to access the koha admin pages from client machines. windows platform. tried http://serverip:8080 it hangs...without response..
09:33 kf Ropuch: depends, Schlagwortketten (subject chains according to RSWK) are stored in 689, but this is not a good solution for koha
09:33 Amit i think your firewall is on
09:34 CGI167 how do i proceed
09:34 kf Ropuch: we wrote a converter (tested successfully yesterday) to change them from chains to single subject headings in normal MARC21 fields - now facets are working great :)
09:35 CGI167 the start page comes welcome to koha.....and then it hangs....
09:35 hdl_laptop Kf are you using zebra facets or koha facets ?
09:36 kf hdl_laptop: uh, dont know, the one thats implemented in koha?
09:36 hdl_laptop ok.
09:36 CGI167 amit...i added the line listen 8080 into the conf file and then the welcome to koha 2.2.9 message comes...but then the browser hangs for a while before timing out...
09:37 kf hdl_laptop: but we had a question about facets some time ago - I think the implemented feature works with search strings and zebra facets would work through indexing?
09:39 hdl_laptop implemented feature parses the returned records.
09:40 kf I think zebra facets would be faster?
09:40 hdl_laptop and zebra facets would use zebra indexes.
09:40 hdl_laptop yes and more global
09:41 hdl_laptop But we have a problem with diacritics.
09:41 kf I looked at the code yesterday to find out how facets work, I saw comments about federated search
09:42 kf is it possible to do federated search with koha? with z39.50?
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09:47 hdl_laptop kf: it could be/ should be possible.
09:48 hdl_laptop Since whatever z3950 server we connect to, we would have the same queries.
09:48 hdl_laptop What makes problem is displaying details.
09:49 kf do you know somebody who has implemented something like that in his library catalog?
09:49 hdl_laptop Since we donot have a failback on what the server returns.
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10:10 imp @wunder hannover germany
10:10 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -6.3�C (10:59 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
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10:57 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:57 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.1�C (11:50 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady).
10:58 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw
10:58 munin Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -12.0�C (11:30 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
10:58 kf ;)
11:00 Ropuch glitschig
11:00 Ropuch Kristin just taught me new word
11:01 kf glitschig - nice :)
11:02 kf because everything is wet or frozen?
11:02 Ropuch Frozen
11:03 Ropuch I've found the word flatt
11:03 Ropuch glatt
11:03 Ropuch ;>
11:03 imp how about "rutschig"?
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12:53 kf Ropuch: when there is ice on the streets it's "glatt"
12:53 kf rutschig is ok too
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13:53 owen nengard++ # for bug-wrangling!
13:53 nengard :)
13:57 owen Weird, this is a new one to me: "Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE  the*/ at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/ line 935."
14:01 owen ...and now it's gone.
14:02 hdl_laptop owen: if you can find the string you were searching for.
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14:08 owen Ah, interesting. hdl_laptop: the error happened when I had a space before my search term.
14:09 owen
14:12 hdl_laptop Is that 3.0 or 3.2 ?
14:13 owen head
14:14 jwagner Owen, see Bug 3711 -- I submitted a patch to strip spaces before/after search terms.  Dunno if it's made it into head yet.
14:14 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC
14:14 jwagner Is that the same type of error you were having?
14:15 owen It's not a javascript error, it's a show-stopping error.
14:15 owen "Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE  the*/ at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/ line 935."
14:20 nengard so maybe speaking up is just going to make me more and more tired ... there is no easy solution there is there?
14:20 owen jwagner: it doesn't look like your patch ever got approved, but there's no way to know whether it's still a problem until this new bug gets fixed.
14:25 owen Can anyone duplicate the search error I'm getting?
14:26 owen I'd hate to file a big fat blocker bug and find out it was user error.
14:27 nengard owen - happens for me too
14:27 nengard if i have a space before my search term
14:27 owen Okay, filing big fat blocker bug report.
14:27 nengard in opac and staff client
14:27 jwagner I'm not at current head yet, so I can't test.
14:28 owen Who should I assign it to, anyone have any suggestions?
14:28 nengard hmm
14:32 hdl_laptop jwagner: can you link to your patch in bugzilla ?
14:33 hdl_laptop owen: looks like the same issue.
14:33 jwagner ? Bug 3711
14:33 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC
14:33 owen hdl_laptop: jwagner's error was a javascript error.
14:36 owen Bug 3955
14:36 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3955 blocker, P5, ---,, NEW, Searching fails if there is a space before your search term
14:36 collum I got the same error in both PAC and Staff search.
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14:45 CGI213 good morning
14:45 CGI213 is this a german chat room?
14:46 kf hi CGI213
14:46 CGI213 schuster tomascohen owen nate
14:46 CGI213 hello
14:46 kf this chat room is English, but Im German
14:46 CGI213 ummm.... i was asked to find out this, "Sarah ~ Please call and  find out when the upgrade for KOHA will become an approved release."
14:46 CGI213 i see
14:46 Nate Hi!
14:46 tomascohen hi
14:47 CGI213 hello
14:47 CGI213 Guten.... morgen!
14:47 tomascohen hola che
14:47 schuster Howdy! from Texas with a Minnesota drawl.
14:48 CGI213 minnesota is more like a pinch than a drawl :)
14:50 CGI213 so does anyone know anything about the uprade release of Koha?
14:50 kf CGI213 where are you from?
14:50 schuster approved release?  Well sometime in the spring would be my guess.  I know there are people "testing" 3.2 kinda pre alpha even at this point.  I believe Galen talked about a "Beta" in January.
14:51 CGI213 Atlanta
14:52 CGI213 thank you for the fyi about the upgrade
14:52 owen CGI213: Do you run your own Koha installation?
14:52 kf ah
14:52 kf I thought perhaps from Germany, because of your question
14:54 CGI213 not germany, i don't run the installation, the IT company I work for maintains the Koha server at a local university and they asked me to find out when the new upgrade is coming out.
14:55 imp but how is this related to german? :D
14:55 owen CGI213: I'm surprised your IT company doesn't keep tabs on it themselves.
14:57 tirabo @wunder Cordoba, Argentina
14:58 munin tirabo: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0�C (11:00 AM ART on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
14:58 tirabo @bgkriegel
14:58 munin tirabo: Error: "bgkriegel" is not a valid command.
14:59 tirabo @seen bgkriegel
14:59 munin tirabo: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 1 day, 17 hours, 37 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tirabo: hi
15:12 schuster owen you online?
15:12 owen Yes
15:13 schuster What version of FF are you using?
15:13 owen 3.5.6
15:13 schuster I'm still trying to figure out why my Add item/edit item forms don't print the data inthe fields.
15:13 schuster Ah...  I'm on 3.0.11 so that might be part of it.
15:14 schuster hmmm how to get the district to update FF on 40,000 computers...
15:14 owen schuster: Do you have a computer you can try FF 3.5.6 on? At least then you'd know for sure whether that was really the problem.
15:15 schuster That's what I'm trying to figure out.  thanks
15:21 owen nengard still around?
15:23 nengard yup
15:23 nengard patching and documenting
15:23 owen Is there a difference between a "vendor" and a "supplier," and if not which is the best term to standardize on?
15:24 kf I think there are is also bookseller in new acq
15:25 owen That's right kf I knew there was a third
15:25 owen Anyone else have a vote?
15:25 imp imho a vendor is "someone" who produces the thing, a supplier may only sell the things a vendor produces?
15:25 kf I tried to translate all of them with Lieferant, I think this would be vendor or supplier
15:25 nengard owen - there is no difference
15:25 nengard they are all the same
15:25 nengard I'd say vendor - since you can buy more than books
15:25 owen I would probably choose "vendor," but I've not used any other acquisitions system for comparison.
15:25 kf but I think owen is right, we should only use one term
15:26 kf make it easier for translators too
15:26 nengard yup :)
15:26 kf vendor sounds better for me, but Im not a native speaker :)
15:26 nengard I've done a lot of training
15:27 nengard and no one has ever used a term other than vendor when i asked how they did acq
15:27 nengard but that is just the US
15:27 * owen chants USA! USA! USA! and changes everything to "vendor"
15:28 kf :)
15:28 nengard LOL
15:28 nengard owen - do you think when you're done with that you could test something for me
15:29 owen Sure
15:29 nengard on /cgi-bin/koha/tools/  -- if you were to scan a barcode into the box does it submit the form before you get to scan another item?
15:29 nengard i don't have a scanner to test wtih
15:29 nengard with
15:29 owen Me neither :(
15:29 nengard wizzyrea around?
15:29 owen that's the trouble with VirtualBox, I can't hop on any computer and test
15:30 nengard or anyone else on who has the most recent HEAD and a scanner?
15:30 nengard and owen - you can easily plug any scanner into your computer :)
15:30 nengard they're plug & play
15:30 owen Yeah, tell that to the circ desk librarians who I'd have to steal one from :P
15:34 nengard hehe
15:34 nengard or the catalogers?
15:34 nengard I had one as a cataloger
15:34 nengard I'll send a message to the mailing list - unless someone in here has a scanner they can test with
15:35 owen nengard: Normally a scanner wouldn't submit a form from a textarea, since it's a carriage return and textareas will happily accept carriage returns without submitting the form
15:36 nengard ah - you are right!!!
15:36 nengard thanks :)
15:36 nengard no worries then
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15:39 owen hdl_laptop: the 3.0.5 download link you posted to the Koha list does not work. I get Drupal "access denied" message
15:39 owen[…]-koha-version-305
15:40 imp @wunder hannover germany
15:40 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -7.7�C (3:59 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
15:45 nengard we need to find a better way to handle the in-Koha help ... once the manual is in XML do we think we can pull from that?
15:45 wizzyrea lurve that idea nengard
15:46 nengard :) good cause as i go through trying to keep the help up to date before the 3.2 release i'm hating the way we do it
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15:49 hdl_laptop owen-away: should be ok now
15:53 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
15:53 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (10:50 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from noon today to 7 PM EST Saturday...
15:55 joetho "Neither a borrower nor a lender be."
16:00 wizzyrea well criminy, that should be possible
16:01 nengard @wunder 19030
16:01 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -3.8�C (10:45 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Watch in effect from late tonight through late Saturday night...
16:02 nengard chris_n2 looks like we have a watch - not an advisory - what's worse? :)
16:02 collum @wunder 41017
16:02 munin collum: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is 2.2�C (10:59 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling).
16:03 chris_n2 nengard: watch
16:03 nengard :(
16:03 chris_n2 and actually we are under a watch atm
16:03 nengard i need to run an errand - but don't want to go out among all the crazies who will be stocking up on water and food - cause snow = end of the world
16:03 * chris_n2 thinks he may loose his seats at a play at UNC tomorrow :-(
16:04 chris_n2 hehe
16:04 nengard :(
16:04 chris_n2 snow = end of milk around here
16:04 nengard ah - yeah end of milk too
16:04 nengard but i have enough of that to get through the weekend ;)
16:04 nengard i think i should go out now - most people will be in work - right?
16:04 chris_n2 now's the best time probably
16:05 chris_n2 it'll get crazy this afternoon... especially if/when the precip starts
16:05 chris_n2 it's not the snow/ice I'm worried about... its the other people on the road that scare me ;-)
16:05 chris_n2 bbl
16:06 jwagner Those of us who grew up in the snow belt have _vastly_ superior winter driving skills :-)
16:06 chris_n2 jwagner: I grew up with snow, but most folks in NC did not apparently
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16:10 jwagner chris_n2 -- yep, been there, done that.
16:10 jwagner Got the dents....
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16:22 nicomo @seen brendan
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16:58 schuster Party party party last day of work until January 4th - I'm sure I will lurk here and there but everyone have joyful Winter holidays!
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16:58 chris winter?? thats crazy talk
16:59 kf schuster: my last work day this year too :) merry chrismas and a happy new year everyone!
16:59 * owen envies all these people about to embark on 2 weeks of vacation!
17:00 CGI212 Is there a way to get Koha to automatically create item records when a batch of MARC records are imported? We imported all our MARC records but have no holdings. We use the 852 field for our holdings information so I tried importing a record with holdings information in the 952 field and an item record was found but not created. Thoughts?
17:01 sekjal CGI212:  did you have 952$a, $b and $y all populated with existing values in your Locations, Locations and Item Types (respectively)?
17:02 CGI212 Yes to 952$a, $b and $o.
17:02 sekjal CGI212:  if you fill in the $y with your Itemtypes, I think that will help
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17:05 CGI212 I see. That's problematic since we don't have itemtypes defined in our present records. I suppose this means we will have to create all new item records? Or is there a way around this? By the way, thank you very much for your help.
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17:07 kf CGI212: there is no automatic way, but it should be no problem to add $y with a tool like marcedit
17:07 CGI212 Okay, I'll try that. Thanks!
17:07 sekjal CGI212: if your items all circulate the same way (have the same loan periods, fines, etc.) you could just assign a universal default value
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17:16 joetho hey all you experimenters- has anyone turned "independent branche settings" OFF, after having used the system for a while with that pref ON?
17:16 chris hmm not me im afraid, never actually run with it on
17:19 brendan @wunder 93117
17:19 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.1�C (9:15 AM PST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 10 am PST this morning...
17:19 chris @wunder wellington nz
17:19 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on December 19, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
17:19 brendan guess that I can still ride the bike today :)
17:19 chris stupids clouds
17:20 nicomo @wunder lyon france
17:20 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 0.0�C (6:00 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
17:20 kf @wunder Konstanz
17:20 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -4.0�C (6:00 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
17:20 nicomo eh, always nice to see some people are worse off than one is ;-)
17:21 chris gah
17:21 chris[…]-nz-colour-latest
17:21 chris way way too many lines on that
17:21 chris gonna be a rainy weekend
17:21 chris otoh, probably some good surf
17:22 sekjal got a pretty good chance of a large snow storm sweeping through my way long abouts Saturday night
17:22 sekjal right when I have movie tickets, too... boo
17:22 brendan nicomo - does it usually get that cold where you are - or is that temp not normal?
17:23 brendan sekjal - for avatar?
17:23 sekjal brendan:  yes
17:23 chris in 3d?
17:23 sekjal yes
17:23 nicomo brendan that's not unusual... if it doesn't last
17:24 brendan yeah planning on seeing avatar on boxing day, in NYC
17:24 chris nice
17:24 brendan one of those big 3d imax screens
17:25 chris pie who is in here sometime was at weta when they were working on that
17:25 joetho sup with the mass email announcement thing in koha 3.0x?
17:26 chris who what where?
17:26 joetho being able to send email to all patrons
17:27 chris oh, no idea
17:28 chris and it being the first day of my holidays .. im outta here for a bit, nicomo might know
17:28 * chris will bbl
17:29 nicomo eh eh, nice try chris but no, I haven't looked at the email annoucement yet
17:31 owen Is that in 3.0.x but not HEAD?
17:34 joetho it was bandied about when we were ILS shopping
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17:44 owen Bandied about when you were talking to your vendor joetho?
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18:04 joetho bait n switch
18:05 kf \me will bbl
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19:24 nengard it's very very quiet today - is it really a work/week day?
19:29 owen It is for me, although everyone around here is slowly wandering off
19:30 brendan yup seems quiet today
19:30 brendan NOISE
19:30 brendan Loud Noises
19:31 imp ;)
19:32 * imp was just stunned by the snow today ;)
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20:02 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:02 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.4�C (8:50 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
20:05 jwagner @wunder 20740
20:05 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 1.1�C (3:03 PM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from midnight tonight to 6 am EST Sunday...
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20:54 chris_n2_ hmmm.... says the latest stable version is 3.0.2
20:55 wizzyrea has anybody looked at 3270
20:55 wizzyrea bug 3270
20:55 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, P5, ---,, NEW, Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item
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21:02 owen chris_n2: You didn't think it would be up to date did you?
21:06 wizzyrea oh, chris_n, I had a question about labels
21:06 wizzyrea chris_n2
21:06 wizzyrea :P
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21:20 chris_n2_ wizzyrea: :-)
21:21 * chris_n2_ got caught up looking at some Jatoba (aka Brazilian Cherry)
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21:28 schuster nengard around?
21:28 schuster or anyone who has travel experience!  What are the cheaper days to fly?  I thought I had heard like Tuesday through Thursday?
21:29 sekjal schuster: I believe that is true
21:29 sekjal also helps to purchase tickets on those days, as the prices tend to dip mid-week
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21:40 cait time to sleep - bye :)
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21:48 wizzyrea oh, chris_n2 are you still about?
21:48 wizzyrea that question...
21:48 wizzyrea ;)
21:49 wizzyrea NEKLS, as a local preference, has the label item search set to default to Barcode (we changed the templates... I'll wait while you cringe... ok) would it be possible to, say, have a checkbox in that window that says "Make this my default search type" and key it to the logged in user?
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22:01 wizzyrea oh, and what is the status of that other LL initiative, openNCIP?
22:02 wizzyrea or is that "the next big thing"
22:02 wizzyrea for LL
22:02 wizzyrea I feel like I'm pulling the thread on a sweater here...
22:02 sekjal good (localtime), all!   I'm off for the holidays.  best wishes to you all.
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22:04 wizzyrea oh, ha, chris_n2_
22:04 wizzyrea that might get your attention better ^.^
22:14 chris_n2 is now known as chris_n
22:14 chris_n hey wizzyrea
22:14 chris_n you mean a personal preference or a library wide one?
22:14 * chris_n is in for just a minute then out again
22:14 chris_n library wide could be a syspref (yet another one ;-)
22:15 chris_n personal might be possible with a modification to the borrowers table
22:15 chris_n it is something I have given a little bit of cogitation to now and then
22:16 chris_n gotta run off again, I'll check the buffer later
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22:22 wizzyrea well, I think personal
22:23 wizzyrea @later tell chris_n I think personal, in that each staff user might have a different preference.
22:23 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
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22:44 brendan afternoon all
22:50 rhcl Hi brendan
22:50 brendan howdy
22:50 brendan you get any snow?
22:51 rhcl Not recently. Maybe light snow tonight and tomorrow. We do have a little left over from about 10 days ago.
22:51 brendan when I see an email from Liz Rea - it looks so weird - I'm used to seeing wizzyrea
22:52 brendan I've only seen snow on mountain tops so far this year - haven't got close to it yet
22:52 rhcl how are temps out there where you're at?
22:52 brendan it was 70 degrees today with a low of about 40 at night
22:53 rhcl Oh gee.....
22:53 brendan it hardly every varies from a high of 70 - even during the hottest parts of the summer
22:53 wizzyrea brendan: hehehe
22:54 wizzyrea i'm just hoping I didn't totally miss what she was saying
22:54 wizzyrea of course, without a URL I can't check myself to see what they're doing. That's so annoying
22:55 wizzyrea you really ought to include the URL of your opac if you're going to ask about the display therein
22:55 wizzyrea aside: I love
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23:02 rhcl are you using camtasia or jing?
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