| Time |
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Message |
| 00:00 |
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chris |
busy, too much to do |
| 00:00 |
|
chris |
but otherwise ok |
| 00:01 |
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pianohacker |
well, at least you're not bored |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
:) |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
gonna duck out and grab somethign to eat, bbiab |
| 00:31 |
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chris |
why the hell is someone trying to install 2.2.8 ????? |
| 00:34 |
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* chris |
asks as much |
| 00:35 |
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pianohacker |
Not even .2.9, but 2.8 |
| 00:35 |
|
pianohacker |
ah well |
| 00:35 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 00:35 |
|
chris |
thats the problem with having them all in download.koha.org |
| 00:36 |
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chris |
have them somewhere sure, but you should really only have the current stable ones in the main download area |
| 00:36 |
|
chris |
imho |
| 00:37 |
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pianohacker |
not like we really have any _power_ over that |
| 00:38 |
|
chris |
:( |
| 00:40 |
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pianohacker |
well, anyway. I'm more bitter than usual |
| 00:40 |
|
richard |
someone asked me where they could grab a 2 version the other week - they had hosed their installation and wanted to replace it exactly |
| 00:40 |
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* pianohacker |
goes back to working on circ, because it makes sense! |
| 00:40 |
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richard |
couldn't convince them that it wasn't the brightest thing to do |
| 00:42 |
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chris |
at least you tried :) |
| 00:46 |
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| 02:32 |
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chris_n2 |
g'evening |
| 02:50 |
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pianohacker |
hi, chris_n2 |
| 02:50 |
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chris_n2 |
how's it going pianohacker? |
| 02:51 |
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pianohacker |
alright |
| 02:51 |
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pianohacker |
working on circ |
| 02:53 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: what are you up to ? |
| 02:53 |
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chris_n2 |
reading no-good news |
| 02:56 |
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pianohacker |
uh-oh? |
| 02:57 |
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chris_n2 |
just my general appraisal of the news in general |
| 02:58 |
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chris_n2 |
"no news is good news" works two ways you know |
| 02:58 |
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pianohacker |
ah. it's rarely uplifting, is it? |
| 02:58 |
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pianohacker |
why is my ? key trying to take over my keyboard? |
| 03:00 |
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chris_n2 |
heh |
| 03:22 |
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| 03:23 |
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Amit |
hi chris, brendan, chris_n2, richard |
| 03:23 |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:23 |
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chris_n2 |
howdy Amit |
| 03:23 |
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chris_n2 |
hope things are well on your side of the big ball |
| 03:23 |
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Amit |
chris_n2: Everything is fine here what about u? |
| 03:24 |
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chris_n2 |
fine here too; getting ready to shut down for the night |
| 04:18 |
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pianohacker |
good night |
| 04:18 |
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| 04:22 |
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chris_n2 |
g'night as well |
| 04:25 |
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| 05:07 |
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brendan |
hi Amit |
| 06:11 |
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| 06:50 |
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Ropuch |
Good morning |
| 07:01 |
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chris |
http://of2minds.net/reflections/?p=41 <-- really good writeup about the sirsi dynix FUD |
| 07:09 |
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| 07:10 |
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Ropuch |
http://www.skytopia.com/projec[…]l/mandelbulb.html |
| 07:10 |
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| 07:10 |
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Ropuch |
Really good pics of mandelbrot set in 3d |
| 07:11 |
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chris |
cool |
| 07:11 |
|
chris |
heya magnusenger, how'd the conference go? |
| 07:13 |
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magnusenger |
hi chris! it went very well, i think! sounds like we will see some more Koha-libraries in Norway in the near future! ;-) |
| 07:13 |
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magnusenger |
nengard & nicomo did a great job! |
| 07:29 |
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| 07:32 |
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chris |
excellent |
| 07:34 |
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| 07:34 |
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CGI420 |
hi I am nithin |
| 07:34 |
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CGI420 |
i need a help |
| 07:34 |
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CGI420 |
when I tried to install the perl module zoom |
| 07:35 |
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CGI420 |
i am getting error : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxslt |
| 07:35 |
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CGI420 |
pls help me to sovle this problem |
| 07:35 |
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CGI420 |
cause I cant proced with my koha installtions |
| 07:36 |
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CGI420 |
pls help me any one ? |
| 07:38 |
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| 07:39 |
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CGI420 |
usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxslt collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 07:39 |
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CGI420 |
plsd help me to solve |
| 07:39 |
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| 07:39 |
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CGI420 |
perl zoom module error |
| 07:40 |
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CGI420 |
hi amith |
| 07:40 |
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| 07:40 |
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CGI420 |
pls help me |
| 07:40 |
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CGI420 |
usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxslt collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 07:45 |
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chris |
sounds like you are missing the xslt library |
| 07:46 |
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chris |
what version of linux are you using, and how are trying to install zoom |
| 07:46 |
|
zico |
hi |
| 07:47 |
|
zico |
i am here with label printing drop down menu problem again! :) |
| 07:47 |
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CGI420 |
hello |
| 07:47 |
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CGI420 |
pls help me to solve this problem' |
| 07:47 |
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CGI420 |
yes |
| 07:47 |
|
zico |
Piotr Wejman gave me the search.tmpl of koha 3.0.4 |
| 07:48 |
|
Ropuch |
Yup |
| 07:48 |
|
zico |
nd... i pasted that in my koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/labels/ |
| 07:48 |
|
Ropuch |
It was me |
| 07:48 |
|
zico |
oh Ropuch ... :) |
| 07:48 |
|
zico |
thnx man |
| 07:48 |
|
zico |
i can see the drop down menu now |
| 07:48 |
|
zico |
but... it cannot search anything |
| 07:48 |
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Ropuch |
It was not a big deal - i just send one email ;> |
| 07:49 |
|
CGI420 |
zoom 1.25 |
| 07:49 |
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zico |
i mean.. if i tries to search with date ... or barcode... it don`t bring any result |
| 07:49 |
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CGI420 |
wil sme server 7.4 |
| 07:50 |
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Ropuch |
zico: you can try replace intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-item-search.pl but I'm not sure it will work |
| 07:51 |
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Ropuch |
Upgrading to 3.0.4 seems to be the proper way ;> |
| 07:51 |
|
CGI420 |
how to install xslt library |
| 07:52 |
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CGI420 |
chris pls help |
| 07:52 |
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Ropuch |
CGI420: you didn't answer the chris question: what linux version are you using and how trying to install zoom |
| 07:52 |
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| 07:53 |
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Ropuch |
Morning, paul_p |
| 07:53 |
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CGI420 |
SME Server 7.4 |
| 07:53 |
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paul_p |
hello #koha, good morning |
| 07:53 |
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Ropuch |
CGI420: sory, i 've overlooked this |
| 07:53 |
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CGI420 |
using the command make, make test, make install |
| 07:54 |
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CGI420 |
any rpm for xlst |
| 07:54 |
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CGI420 |
pls chris help me |
| 07:57 |
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zico |
Ropuch, nope! it don`t work :) |
| 07:57 |
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Ropuch |
CGI420: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/perl-XML-XSLT/ |
| 07:58 |
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Ropuch |
There's some xslt-perl rpms for CentOS |
| 07:59 |
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CGI420 |
i will try |
| 08:03 |
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chris |
its not the perl one ropuch its the main xslt dev libs |
| 08:03 |
|
chris |
i dont know SME Server at all |
| 08:03 |
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chris |
in debian it would be apt-get install libxslt-dev |
| 08:04 |
|
* chris |
cant always answer right away as i have a family at home who demand my attention also :) |
| 08:05 |
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chris |
zico: as chris nighswonger said its been fixed for 3.0.4, you can either try to find all the patches or upgrade to that (its probably a .pm change as well) |
| 08:06 |
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* chris |
wanders off again |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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|Lupin| |
good day all |
| 08:48 |
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kf |
hi lupin |
| 08:56 |
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|Lupin| |
guten morgen kf :) |
| 08:56 |
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kf |
:) |
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|Lupin| |
till later, everybody, have to go now |
| 08:59 |
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|Lupin| |
bye |
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paul_p |
@seen gmcharlt |
| 10:13 |
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munin |
paul_p: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 5 days, 17 hours, 37 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> Nate: GPL v2 or later |
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jwagner |
paul_p, online? |
| 12:44 |
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paul_p |
yep. 'morning jwagner |
| 12:44 |
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jwagner |
Bonjour. |
| 12:45 |
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jwagner |
Question for you -- does the new acquisitions code obey Independent Branches? If that's on, can libraries see each others' funds/orders? |
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paul_p |
jwagner: for funds, I think so. For orders, not sure, but I don't think so (or, if it works, it's by mistake). This part should probably be improved |
| 12:55 |
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heupink |
Hi all. I'm installing koha on debian, and noticed something in the docs that I think is wrong: |
| 12:55 |
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jwagner |
OK, thanks -- that's promising news |
| 12:55 |
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jwagner |
paul_p, sorry, they can still see each others' funds? |
| 12:56 |
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heupink |
it says: "ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha" |
| 12:56 |
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heupink |
shouldn't this be "ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha.CONF"? |
| 12:56 |
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jdavidb |
Could be, heupink, but it doesn't have to be. |
| 12:56 |
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paul_p |
yes but no : when you create a fund, you can limit it to a branch or not. If you don't limit, then anyone can see it. If you limit, then it's only for your library. |
| 12:57 |
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jwagner |
paul_p, thanks! That's what I needed to know. |
| 12:57 |
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jdavidb |
The second parameter can be whatever you want, as long as it's in sites-available. That, of course, is what your'e going to feed to a2ensite. |
| 12:57 |
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heupink |
because from apache configuration, it tries to load all .conf files, not just ALL files under /sitesenabled |
| 12:57 |
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heupink |
but it should end on .conf, otherwise apache doesn't try to load it, right..? |
| 12:57 |
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jdavidb |
If you named it koha.conf, you'd need to do a2ensite koha.conf |
| 12:58 |
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jdavidb |
It loads everything under /etc/apache2/conf. It specificially does *not* load everything under /etc/apache2/sites-available. |
| 12:58 |
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jdavidb |
a2ensite creates a link from the sites-available to the sites-enabled, and that one, also, loads *all* files, not just .conf. |
| 12:59 |
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heupink |
hmm. it didn't seem to work when i tried it, and it did work when using koha.conf. Strange. |
| 12:59 |
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heupink |
Ok then, I'll take a look at it again then. |
| 12:59 |
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jdavidb |
If it works for you, roll with it. I've done it nearly sixty times now, as documented, on both etch and lenny. |
| 13:00 |
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heupink |
(I come from suse, where things are a bit different) |
| 13:00 |
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heupink |
ok, thanks! |
| 13:00 |
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jdavidb |
Glad I could help. |
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chris_n |
wb gmcharlt |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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gmcharlt |
good morning all |
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owen |
Hi gmcharlt, #koha |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I have koha running fine now on win32 (2+ years later) |
| 13:45 |
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Eric_T |
Bonjour / Hello |
| 13:45 |
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chris_n |
hi Eric_T |
| 13:47 |
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Eric_T |
I'm looking for help regarding zebra indexation |
| 13:49 |
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chris_n |
Eric_T: feel free to ask your question, someone here may have the answer :-) |
| 13:49 |
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Eric_T |
I installed Koha 3.0.4 and imported 1000 "notices" |
| 13:50 |
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paul_p |
Eric_T: are u french ? (notice is the french term) |
| 13:50 |
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paul_p |
( in english, it's biblio ;-) ) |
| 13:50 |
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Eric_T |
I think now i have to build the zebra index (Oui français Paul) |
| 13:51 |
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paul_p |
Eric_T: misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra |
| 13:51 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n++ |
| 13:51 |
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paul_p |
Eric_T: we have a french channel on freenode #koha-fr. He's very quiet, but just FYI. |
| 13:51 |
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Eric_T |
Donc en français, je patauge un peu au niveau de zebra. La recherche ne fonctionne pas. Si j'ai bien compris je dois contruire l'index avec un rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:52 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: with the January 2010 Strawberry release, Koha on win32 should be nearly as straight forward as on *nix |
| 13:52 |
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Eric_T |
Ok but I can't connect on 6667 port... didn' find any web interface for irc.freenod |
| 13:53 |
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paul_p |
Eric_T: :(((( welcome here, anyway. For tech questions, you'll get more answers ! |
| 13:53 |
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paul_p |
Eric_T: yes, you must rebuild_zebra |
| 13:53 |
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paul_p |
(which requires PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF to be defined on your shell) |
| 13:54 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I did find an issue when "round tripping" marc records from one Koha to another |
| 13:54 |
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hdl |
hi gmcharlt |
| 13:54 |
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gmcharlt |
hi hdl |
| 13:54 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: when importing records exported from a Koha installation, the isbn and issn fields are too long, especially when the bib has multiple items attached |
| 13:55 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: too long? in what way/ |
| 13:55 |
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chris_n |
I ended up having to make those fields in the biblioitems table mediumtext types and remove the indexes |
| 13:56 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: the 020 fields are concatenated and then inserted into the isbn field of biblioitems |
| 13:56 |
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chris_n |
the isbn field is varchar(30) currently |
| 13:56 |
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Eric_T |
So when I try to rebuild the (many) errors are [warn] Index 'tpubdate' not found in attset(s) , 'Modified-code' not found in attset(s), etc etc... |
| 13:57 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: a bib with 13 items fails to insert |
| 13:57 |
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gmcharlt |
odd - mysql auto-truncates if you try to insert a string that's too long into a varchar |
| 13:58 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I thought so, but very clearly these items failed to insert with DBD throwing an error |
| 13:58 |
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hdl |
Eric_T: those are warnings only |
| 13:59 |
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chris_n |
I suppose there might be another plausible explanation, but I have not spent a lot of time on it |
| 14:00 |
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chris_n |
I plan on doing the installation again from scratch and will spend more time debugging it then |
| 14:00 |
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Eric_T |
Ok I forget to export KOHA_CONF, now warnings are different. So I pregress... thanks ! |
| 14:00 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: I wouldn't be surprised if the behavior is controlled by a setting, possibly in DBD::mysql, which just happens to have a different default value |
| 14:00 |
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gmcharlt |
in Strawberry |
| 14:00 |
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chris_n |
ahh.... hadn't thought of that, but it very well could be |
| 14:01 |
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heupink |
Hi, I'm trying to authenticate with ldap, by using the bind as user option ( <auth_by_bind>1</auth_by_bind>) |
| 14:01 |
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chris_n |
DBD::mysql is a core module with Strawberry so differences could be there |
| 14:02 |
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heupink |
But I don't understand where tell koha in what form the bind should be (like: uid=from_login,ou=YY,dc=YY) |
| 14:03 |
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heupink |
Koha takes userid from the user of course, but the rest to perform the bind with. |
| 14:04 |
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heupink |
Hope someone here has an idea..? |
| 14:12 |
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chris_n |
heupink: you might want to post the the list as there are some there who have worked with the koha ldap stuff |
| 14:13 |
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heupink |
i just thought I'd ask here first. :-) |
| 14:13 |
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heupink |
thanks. |
| 14:20 |
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jwagner |
I have a new holds-related bug, but I'm not quite sure how best to fix it. Any ideas? See Bug 3785. |
| 14:21 |
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jwagner |
Where'd munin go? Anyway, see http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 |
| 14:22 |
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gmcharlt |
@bug 3785 |
| 14:22 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail |
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Ropuch |
Hm, I added &order=biblio.title to basket showing url: it throwed 'ERROR: Illegal sort requested by "biblio.title".', but the items got sorted according to title anyway |
| 15:30 |
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heupink |
@chris_n: I found out why it didnt work, and I'm writing a wiki page now. |
| 15:30 |
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munin |
heupink: Error: "chris_n:" is not a valid command. |
| 15:31 |
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chris_n |
heupink: cool |
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chris_n |
wiki_pages++ |
| 15:31 |
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chris_n |
heupink++ # for taking time to write one |
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heupink |
I already wrote the ldap wiki page for 2.x series, and am now adding stuff for 3.x series, |
| 15:31 |
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heupink |
. |
| 15:42 |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: question, is the holds targeting immediate? example: staff catalogs an item, accidentally gives it a non restricted hold itype, clicks save. Staff member then realizes that the item should have a restricted (local hold, for example) itype and changes it. Is it too late? Has that item already become a target of the holds picking system? |
| 15:43 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: no, it shouldn't be that fast |
| 15:43 |
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gmcharlt |
as there is an intermediate cronjob |
| 15:43 |
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owen |
gmcharlt: the holdsqueue job? |
| 15:43 |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
| 15:44 |
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wizzyrea |
that is a different script than the one that generates the pick list, or no? |
| 15:44 |
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gmcharlt |
same one |
| 15:44 |
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gmcharlt |
at least, it generates the 'holds queue' version of the pick list |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
right, we call the holds queue the pick list (sirsi holdover. Sigh.) |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
ok, thanks |
| 15:45 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: one more question |
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wizzyrea |
if the mistakenly assigned item is scanned (checked in) is the hold assigned? |
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wizzyrea |
(with it's erroneous itype) |
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gmcharlt |
yes, at that point it could be captured |
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wizzyrea |
okies, ty |
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wizzyrea |
that was my impression, I just wanted to make sure |
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@wunder 66044 |
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owen: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.9�C (10:12 AM CST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
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owen |
Ouch! |
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owen |
@wunder 45764 |
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owen: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
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@wunder 45701 |
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owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 13.0�C (10:55 AM EST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (5:00 PM CET on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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magnusenger |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (4:50 PM CET on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
@wunder Marseille, France |
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paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0�C (5:00 PM CET on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
hehe... I win :D (18°C ) |
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jdavidb |
@wunder Bethesda, md |
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jdavidb: The current temperature in WRC-Tenlytown, Washington, District of Columbia is 18.3�C (10:30 AM EST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling). |
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jdavidb |
18.3. :P |
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owen |
No offense jdavidb, Marseille still wins ;) |
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* jdavidb |
pouts a little. |
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paul_p |
jdavidb: lol |
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magnusenger |
heh, i'm not the coldest! |
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nicomo |
@wunder Lyon, France |
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nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 18.0�C (5:00 PM CET on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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magnusenger |
@wunder bergen, norway |
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magnusenger: The current temperature in Olsvik, Bergen, Norway is 8.3�C (5:19 PM CET on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady). |
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nicomo |
not bad |
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magnusenger |
:-) |
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magnusenger |
[Bergen | Bodø] + 10 = Lyon :-) |
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zico |
hi |
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jdavidb |
Hm...Tenleytown is kinda the high ground in northwest DC. Wonder what it's like down in Foggy Bottom? |
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zico |
i hv just installed koha-3.0.4.. but when i go for http://127.0.1.1:8080/ ... it shows me the error "production mode - trapped fatal error" |
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wizzyrea |
yea, the weather here is frightful |
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wizzyrea |
and I have no fire to make it delightful |
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* wizzyrea |
goes off to look for a youtube vid of a fireplace |
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zico |
is there anyone who can help me with "production mode - trapped fatal error" ?? |
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owen |
zico: You'll have to look in your error logs for more information |
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wizzyrea |
zico: I'm pretty sure there has been discussion of that on the list, lemme get the link |
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wizzyrea |
error logs are a good suggestion as well |
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zico |
nahuel: owen |
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kf |
time to leave - bye #koha :) |
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nahuel |
zico, ? |
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zico |
owen: the log shows me this: "[Tue Nov 17 04:24:24 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/favicon.ico [Tue Nov 17 04:24:27 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/favicon.ico" |
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zico |
:( |
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nahuel |
don't take care about this |
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zico |
nahuel: sorry man! |
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wizzyrea |
http://old.nabble.com/forum/Se[…]+error+production |
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wizzyrea |
is that the apache log or the koha log? |
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zico |
wizzyrea: that`s koha log |
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* chris_n |
hands wizzyrea his soap-stone wood stove |
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chris_n |
just don't drop it on your foot ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
I'll try not to :) |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n thanks, that's very warm |
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chris_n |
lol |
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chris_n |
lunch, bbiab |
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heupink |
Hi again! To set a fixed category code for all new users, should "<categorycode is="ALL"></categorycode>" in koha-xml.conf (with ldap) work..? |
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heupink |
(to set the code to "ALL" |
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heupink |
Because I'm getting this error: "Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha3/borrowers`, CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`categorycode`) REFERENCES `categories` (`categorycode`)) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 730" |
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heupink |
But category code ALL is defined in the database. |
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brendan |
morning All |
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wizzyrea |
omg you should see the snow here |
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wizzyrea |
it's beautiful |
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wizzyrea |
huge flakes |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.2�C (9:55 AM PST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising). |
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owen-away is now known as owen |
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brendan |
Sorry wizzyrea -- I don't see any snow outside |
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wizzyrea |
dude, you're in california |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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brendan |
:) |
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* jdavidb |
isn't in California, and doesn't see snow, either. |
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wizzyrea |
brendan, I just sent you a friend request so you can see my huge flakes :P |
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brendan |
huge flakes - heh ;) |
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jdavidb |
Imma tell your bosses you talk about 'em like that, wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
LOL |
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wizzyrea |
if they were in the pic then we might have grounds for that |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
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chris |
gonna be a nice day |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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jwagner |
Can anyone think of a reason why sites would want ISBD view hidden in staff mode but available in OPAC? XSLT doesn't obey the viewISBD syspref, which is in the Staff group of sysprefs, but I don't see any reason to create an OPAC syspref. |
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chris |
i can think of no reason |
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chris |
but now its time to catch my bus |
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rhcl |
@seen nengard |
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munin |
rhcl: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <nengard> I'm working with melanie on the problem i mentioned above |
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brendan |
nengard is in Italy at the moment |
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rhcl |
Italy? Oh, OK |
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brendan |
rhcl nengard should be back next week |
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rhcl |
Who might be the POC for the installation directions for debian lenny? |
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jdavidb |
rhcl: I've done it a bunch, would be glad to help. |
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rhcl |
I think there are a couple of things that need clarification... |
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jdavidb |
Probably more than a couple. |
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rhcl |
for example, when configuring zebra there is the line "Option 2: run the Zebra processes as daemons, and add to startup process:". |
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rhcl |
What is specifically ment by "startup process". I think that should be defined better. |
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jdavidb |
yup. "running zebra" is one of the sections that needs some love, IMO." |
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rhcl |
Needs to be shot and replaced with a giraffe. |
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brendan |
rhcl -- what does "startup process" mean to you? |
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rhcl |
Is there anything I can do to assist with the docs here? |
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jdavidb |
The little section of code starting at line 210 "Zebra Server" tells how to, and that's what we do exclusively, here. |
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brendan |
those doc's are part of git tree |
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brendan |
so you could make some changes and submit a patch for that |
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jdavidb |
I'm with Brendan. If you find something that needs better wording, just do it. Submit it as a patch, and get ++ a lot. |
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rhcl |
OK, but when we did "Option 2", following the directions pretty exactly, nothing actually started the zebra process. We had to go back to Option 1 to start the daemon, which then worked fine. |
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jdavidb |
That's why that section needs some love...structurally, it has some issues. |
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jdavidb |
just so you know, I'm working on a big rewrite of INSTALL.debian-lenny for the Squeeze release. |
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brendan |
line 223 tells you to start the server |
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rhcl |
The other thing is that in the instructions it mentions "${SCRIPT_DIR}, but never tells how to actually set it. |
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rhcl |
OK, that sounds good. How can I feed you my input, and/or otherwise assist? |
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brendan |
hmm.... line 207 -- explains {SCRIPT_DIR} |
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brendan |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]4c190b52b;hb=HEAD |
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rhcl |
OK, I can't see the line numbers and just have a printout at this computer. |
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brendan |
ok -- try that link I just pasted |
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rhcl |
Yea, that looks good, we were just using the install directions that came with the distro 3.0.4_fixed (or whatever) |
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brendan |
ah ok... I usually just use the git.koha.org versions |
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brendan |
also nice to browse code if you wanted to |
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rhcl |
and I see the file at that link has feedback instructions :) |
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brendan |
:) |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4�C (11:35 AM PST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66047 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 1.6�C (1:38 PM CST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
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wizzyrea |
I win. :) |
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brendan |
is this golf? |
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brendan |
if not -- then I think I win |
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wizzyrea |
oh, this is the misery index |
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wizzyrea |
it's more like golf |
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wizzyrea |
>.> at least in weather terms |
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brendan |
ok -- you win by a wide margin :) |
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wizzyrea |
can anyone tell me, 3M self-check machines can use a PIN, is that equiv. to the OPAC password? |
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* wizzyrea |
resists the urge to hunt down atz |
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chris |
id fire him an email wizzyrea |
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chris |
he'll be able to answer fast |
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chris |
the rest of us would need to go read the code |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's what I was thinking |
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jwagner |
owen and others, I've had a request from a couple of my sites to highlight the shelving location in the staff & OPAC display. Right now it just immediately follows the library branch name, and if you have a wordy name the shelving location gets lost. I'm applying one of the existing span classes to it ("term" which makes it yellow highlighted). Would that be of general use? |
| 19:46 |
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wizzyrea |
k I will do that. |
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owen |
jwagner: It should have its own span. "term" is very specific. |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
hiya richard |
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richard |
hey chris |
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brendan |
morning richard |
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jwagner |
owen, I was kind of hoping to avoid creating a new span, and "term" looked more usable than, say, "lost" -- any suggestions which other class might be better? |
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owen |
Honestly, I wouldn't suggest anything but a new class name. |
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* jwagner |
whimpers |
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* jdavidb |
suggests chocolate for jwagner |
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jwagner |
OK, if this is something that would be of general use, I'll try to figure it out. If not, I'll stick to this for my site :-) |
| 19:51 |
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jwagner |
(jdavidb, caramels work too....) |
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owen |
I'd say it is potentially of general use |
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owen |
I don't know how other libraries use shelving location--we don't use it at all |
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* owen |
is waiting for a transfers-like interface for setting shelving location |
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jwagner |
They also asked for the shelving location to go on a separate line. There are a few cases where I think putting a <BR> in the template code might cause problems. We have a single library site (single branch mode on, so it doesn't display library name) which doesn't use shelving locations. I'll have to look at that a bit more. |
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chris |
owen: like the bulk item edits interface? |
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owen |
jwagner: Then what you need is to add "display:block" to the <span>'s CSS |
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chris |
owen: http://librarian.koha.catalyst[…]tools/batchMod.pl |
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jdavidb |
< TMPL_IF shelving_location is present> <BR><span foo><TMPL_VAR> </span> </TMPL_IF> ? |
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owen |
jdavidb: No, it should go in the CSS |
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owen |
<span class="shelvingloc"><TMPL_VAR></span> ; .shelvingdoc { display: block } |
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jdavidb |
Why choose one over the other, owen? |
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jwagner |
I've set up a span in the css, copying the term one, then called it in the tmpl. Not sure I've got it right yet, but... |
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owen |
jdavidb: Adding the <BR> to the HTML means that it is forced onto a new line for any and all users. Doing it in the CSS means that libraries can choose. |
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jdavidb |
Ah, by merely monkeying with the CSS. I see. |
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owen |
chris: I was picturing an interface just like transfers, only instead of setting a branch you set a shelving location. |
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chris |
i think since we have a way to do bulk modifications on items, probably can just do that for shelving locations too |
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* jdavidb |
gets out his Dark Arts of CSS book. Probably oughta read it some mroe. |
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brendan |
mroe sounds so morose |
| 20:03 |
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jdavidb |
If there wasn't already a "less" command, I'd lobby for that function to be done by mroe. |
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hdl |
jwagner: chris about ISBD for OPAC and intranet : There is the problem of links between intranet and opac which are different owed to the fact that authorities/detail.pl and catalogue/detail.pl refers to different scripts and opac has only one directory |
| 20:14 |
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jwagner |
hdl, does that mean the XSLT shouldn't use the staff viewISBD syspref? |
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chris |
anyone know of any libraries who are using the Koha Opac as a discovery layer, while using their old LMS in the background? |
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hdl |
chris yes. |
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chris |
cool, do you have any details? |
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hdl |
mmm you had better ask paul for details. |
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chris |
in part of my RFI response, they talk about discovery layer, im saying Koha doesnt need one, in fact other libraries have used Koha as discovery layer for their old LMS |
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chris |
i wonder if he is still awake |
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* chris |
is racing a deadline |
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* chris |
emails |
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hdl |
he sure is awake, but should not be near his computer atm |
| 20:23 |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
ill email |
| 20:26 |
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rhcl |
Right now we have to login to our koha server and start zebrasrv, using >/usr/bin/zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha0conf.xml, each time manually (after a reboot). How should this be started automatically without a usr login? |
| 20:26 |
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chris |
yes |
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chris |
are you running debian rhcl ? |
| 20:27 |
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rhcl |
yes, lenny and 3.0.4_fixed |
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chris |
ok look at the INSTALL.debian-lenny |
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brendan |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]4c190b52b;hb=HEAD |
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rhcl |
Yea, I've got the directions here, and have been over them 1000 times, and nothing addresses this that I see. |
| 20:28 |
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chris |
yes it does :) |
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jwagner |
owen, I got the css stuff figured out, I think. How about a nice tasteful green for the shelving location? Blue is kind of overworked, and red is better suited to "pay attention!" things like Lost. |
| 20:28 |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "setting up start up processes" (12 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/59 |
| 20:29 |
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owen |
jwagner: Maybe we should leave the color alone and leave that up to each location? |
| 20:29 |
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rhcl |
The install directions specifically show this as part of the "Option 1, command line", which is exactly how we are starting it. Even with setting up Option 2, and double checking, we have to login and run zebrasrv by hand. |
| 20:30 |
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chris |
im pasting directly from the file |
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jwagner |
owen, I need to set a color for my sites. I can submit the patch with or without a color, I guess. |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Option 1: run the Zebra proces" (29 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/60 |
| 20:30 |
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owen |
jwagner: Then you can use OpacUserCSS to give them their color |
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chris |
rhcl: if you did all of option 2, and its not starting, then you might not have the daemon package installed, or you koha-zebra-ctl.sh script isnt configured right |
| 20:36 |
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brendan |
rhcl, you could check to see what is listed for a username and group in koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
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|Lupin| |
hi there |
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brendan |
bbiab |
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hdl |
hi |logbot_backup |
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hdl |
hi |Lupin| |
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|Lupin| |
hey hdl :) |
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|Lupin| |
wow irssi is clever: lu<tab> completes correctly |
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|Lupin| |
anybody knowshow to do a universal or existential quantification in mysql pls ? |
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|Lupin| |
expressing something like "there exists at least one row in the table such that ..." in a where clause ? |
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Ropuch |
select * from table where exist (select blabla) |
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Ropuch |
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]s-subqueries.html |
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Ropuch |
|Lupin|: is taht what you need? |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: I'll check but it looks like that, yes ! thanks ! |
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Ropuch |
Np, googling things out is my my job ;> |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: are you familiar enough with mysql to tell how one could regularly lookup a table and update another one ? is that doable inpure mysql ? |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: I tried but was not very successfull... tried googling I mean |
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Ropuch |
I can handle signle querry only in sql |
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Ropuch |
But |
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Ropuch |
If you tell me what you are trying to do, I can ask some ppl [; |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: I am trying to create some kind of dynamic virtual shelves for my librarian |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: doing it in Perl is an easy and acceptable fallback |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: I was just wondering how far I could go in pure SQL |
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Ropuch |
Describe what you the sql to do |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: basically find out all the biblonumbers who have an item with a certain ccode and no item with another ccode |
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Ropuch |
I think it's doable |
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Ropuch |
Well, I'm sure it is |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: so am I, thanks for helping |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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pianohacker |
Good afternoon |
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hdl |
|Lupin|: you could update a given virtualshelves content with : DELETE FROM virtualshelvescontent where shelfnumber=... |
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wizzyrea |
ph, hello |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: yeah delete and then insert select the required things... |
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hdl |
|Lupin|: INSERT INTO virtualshelfcontents (shelfnumber, biblionumber) SELECT theshelfnumberyouneed,biblionumber from biblio |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: the question ismore: is there a way in the db to have actions performed regularly, like a cron job but inside the db ? |
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pianohacker |
hi wizzy |
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hdl |
|Lupin|: i would use a shell cronjob for that. |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: anyway, thanks for havign shown, it confirms what I wanted to do can work |
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hdl |
But you could look at http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]/en/triggers.html |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: you mean a script that would pass the whole query to mysql ? yeah, why not ! |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: yeah triggers are even nicr cause it's completely dynamic and ran exactl when it's needed, so that's cool! and I didn't know them so curlutally speaking it's great... so, thanks a lot !! |
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hdl |
ties you with mysql... But well... |
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chris |
postgres has triggers |
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|Lupin| |
hdl: well that's a temporary thing, so that's fine, and the benefit of having a real-time update of the shelf content is worth the price in the situation I think |
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hdl |
chris is the syntax between mysql and postgresql the same ? |
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chris |
not sure, ive never tried triggers in mysql |
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|Lupin| |
OLD and NEW are MySQL extensions to triggers. |
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|Lupin| |
so that's one thing to avoid for portability |
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wizzyrea |
question: is there a max length for the OPAC password? |
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wizzyrea |
erm... 1s I may be able to help myself on that one |
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|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: desc borrowers should tell you |
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|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: (it's a mysql statement) |
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pianohacker |
|Lupin|: not in this case, since it's hashed |
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pianohacker |
There shouldn't actually be a max that you're likely to hit |
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wizzyrea |
`password` varchar(30) default NULL, |
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wizzyrea |
wouldn't that mean 30? |
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owen |
But that's the md5'ed length, isn't it? |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: no; the password is hashed using MD5, and the hash is always the same length |
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wizzyrea |
Ahhhhh |
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wizzyrea |
makes sense |
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wizzyrea |
well it's a good thing I asked, thanks ph |
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pianohacker |
tho we _really_ ought to be moving towards using sha-256, given the known collision attacks against MD5 |
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pianohacker |
</geekery> |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: np |
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|Lupin| |
oops |
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|Lupin| |
sorry wizzyrea to have been confusing |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Are you going to run right out and try to overload the password length? |
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wizzyrea |
well, I can do my best I suppose ;) |
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wizzyrea |
one of my libraries asked |
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pianohacker |
hehe, a particularly long passphrase might come close |
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wizzyrea |
define "particularly long" |
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wizzyrea |
like, pi to the 10000th digit? |
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pianohacker |
ooh |
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pianohacker |
finally, an actual practical use for memorizing pi |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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brendan |
more like a prime number with 10 million digits |
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brendan |
chris_n is into that kind of stuff |
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pianohacker |
brendan: though that falls into the category of an unintentional DOS |
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wizzyrea |
I always like it when a question I ask incites geekery well beyond the original question |
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brendan |
heh |
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brendan |
yeah I'd say there are some geeks in this channel |
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pianohacker |
just a few |
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* owen |
looks accusingly at everyone else |
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pianohacker |
bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car |
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wizzyrea |
LOL someone quote add that |
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wizzyrea |
my quote add capability is somehow broken |
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brendan |
@quote add pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car |
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munin |
brendan: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 23 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 12:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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brendan |
@quote add pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car |
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munin |
brendan: The operation succeeded. Quote #47 added. |
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wizzyrea |
gerg, I keep getting pulled off of my task by koha questions. Not that I mind particularly, but it does make getting things done rather difficult :/ |
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* pianohacker |
hopes owen didn't take his rather droll joke literally |
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joetho |
@wunder fort scott, ks |
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munin |
joetho: The current temperature in DEAN\'S WEATHER STATION, PRESCOTT, Kansas is 4.7�C (3:43 PM CST on November 16, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
that's like, geek speak for "go play in traffic" |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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owen |
Sorry pianohacker, I'm working the circ desk. Can't run out into traffic for another 45 min or so. |
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pianohacker |
Hehe |
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* wizzyrea |
will go kill owen herself if he goes to play in traffic and gets hurt. |
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wizzyrea |
who will design the koha interface? |
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pianohacker |
We need your css, owen! |
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owen |
I hear folks are getting very good results from monkeys these days. |
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wizzyrea |
doh |
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wizzyrea |
not exactly the answer I was looking for |
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* owen |
tries to think of a good interface disaster to blame on monkeys |
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wizzyrea |
well there's the edit items table... |
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wizzyrea |
ok, this is seriously a beef of mine |
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wizzyrea |
why put the fields that are not the most often used at the left of the table? |
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wizzyrea |
and the barcode (used all the time) on the right? |
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owen |
In fact I was thinking of doing a blog post on interface peeves |
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owen |
In fact I think the table isn't designed at all, I think it's just dumped. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, I'm sure we can come up with some for you |
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wizzyrea |
1. alphabetization! |
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wizzyrea |
2. logged in branch should always get preference |
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wizzyrea |
(in drop downs, both) |
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wizzyrea |
3. the edit items table should be optimized for usefulness, with commonly used columns like barcode and home/holding branch not on the part you can't see and have to scroll for. |
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owen |
Yeah, edit items table is in subfield order. |
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pianohacker |
There's a lot of tiny, in-many-places interface tweaks that our retarded templating system makes very difficult |
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pianohacker |
yup, that's entirely based on the MARC framework |
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owen |
pianohacker: what kind of improvements would we get from an alternate templating system? |
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pianohacker |
owen: mainly the option to do _some_ post-processing of the data |
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pianohacker |
nothing too insane, but it would remove the need for the .pl to handle little things like logged-in branch first |
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owen |
I wonder if we could add an option to frameworks to control display of subfields in the add item interface? |
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owen |
(...bringing up another interface disaster...) |
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wizzyrea |
owen++ that would roxxor my soxxors |
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pianohacker |
owen: A cute little Reorder button that brought up a drag-and-drop display? |
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owen |
Not that I'm smart enough to make it happen... |
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|Lupin| |
hmm |
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|Lupin| |
when one follows the instructions given in the INSTALL files |
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|Lupin| |
shouldn't the koha user have all the priviledges over the koha db ? |
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wizzyrea |
ph: i like that. See the WP widget interface |
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wizzyrea |
dk if you're familiar |
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wizzyrea |
(though I think we've talked about that before_ |
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|Lupin| |
I just tried to add a trigger and mysql said the SUPER privilege is required to do that... |
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chris |
yes that would be right, because you dont want an ordinary user able to do, would be an easy way to get hacked |
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owen |
Even if we didn't get as far as enabling reordering, perhaps we could add functionality to the "hidden" constraint in the subfield editor |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: I think I have seen that |
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pianohacker |
owen: I've wanted to redo hidden for a long time |
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pianohacker |
dropdown at least, preferably checkboxes |
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owen |
..although the "hidden" field is for all tags, and this would only be relevant to 952 (or whatever it is in UNIMARC) |
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|Lupin| |
owen: 995 |
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chris |
yeah can we kill those numbers |
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chris |
with the hidden thing |
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chris |
what are we indexdata |
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owen |
Not sure if it's too impractical (or messy) to add functionality that works for only one tag's subfields. |
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pianohacker |
chris: the far worse part is that the hidden field is allllmost a bitmask, but not quite |
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chris |
everytime i read 1 => !OPAC Intranet Editor Collapsed |
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chris |
i want to kill someone |
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pianohacker |
That's the only help page I've ever needed to refer to more than once |
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chris |
exactly |
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pianohacker |
I think I'd send an updatedatabase and tweaks to make it an actual bitmask, then fix the interface |
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chris |
that works |
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* pianohacker |
adds it to Koha to-do list, notes that at this rate it'll get done sometime in 2012 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
i hear that |
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owen |
Just in time for the **AAAHH** <crushed by a falling national monument> |
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wizzyrea |
lol owen |
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wizzyrea |
yay, 400k download speed here. Jebus, what happened to our ISP. Criminy |
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pianohacker |
owen: They sure don't make statues of liberty like they used to |
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owen |
wizzyrea: They're busy torrenting the new Dr. Who special. |
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chris |
did you see that totally screwed up the dates for that? |
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chris |
misread the mayan calendar |
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wizzyrea |
probably. |
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owen |
chris: Was it supposed to happen last week instead? |
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richard is now known as rich-away |
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pianohacker |
bleh. I generally oppose torrenting, but the release schedule for dr. who episodes in the US is truly ridiculous |
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chris |
2020 or soething |
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owen |
chris: It'll be time for a re-make by then |
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chris |
heh |
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mason |
heya folks.. |
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wizzyrea |
hi mason |
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|Lupin| |
k, time to go to bed, til soon everybody, bye |
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brendan |
heya mason |
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wizzyrea |
I'm out, ttyl :) |
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owen |
No, wizzyrea, 12 more minutes of productivity! |
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wizzyrea |
can't... do... it... |
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pianohacker |
just enough time for a patch! |
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wizzyrea |
i'm like the thirsty person in the desert... belly crawling towards the end of day oasis |
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mason |
.. with a bunch of kids, waiting to ride you like a horsey - when to get there ;) |
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mason |
s/to/you/ |
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wizzyrea |
lol masosn |
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wizzyrea |
mason* |
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wizzyrea |
dangit owen, now I feel guilty |
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* owen |
absolves wizzyrea |
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* owen |
thinks, Let's see a monkey do that! |
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brendan |
ah the channel goes quiet after wizzyrea and owen leave :) |
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chris |
heh |
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