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rhcl_home |
No, that's the address you put in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:01 |
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rhcl_home |
your /etc/resolv.conf file should contain a line something like this: |
| 00:01 |
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rhcl_home |
nameserver 150.199.1.29 |
| 00:01 |
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rhcl_home |
You can have multiple nameservers in this file, one after another in the format above |
| 00:02 |
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rhcl_home |
If you use a shell tool and >cat /etc/resolv.conf, do you see one or more lines like that? |
| 00:11 |
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chris |
any luck nengard ? |
| 00:12 |
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nengard |
no!!! - reading what rhc1 is saying |
| 00:12 |
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nengard |
and telling bri to check on his machine |
| 00:12 |
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nengard |
scared to use something like opendns cause i don't want to mess with settings on my machine now that i have everything up and running |
| 00:12 |
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nengard |
but my mac doesn't know what my name server is either |
| 00:12 |
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chris |
opendns is safe |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
wonder if i restart - which i haven't done yet today - if it will find them |
| 00:13 |
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rhcl_home |
Nothing to editing the file and changing it to something else. |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
safe - meaning it won't screw up my connections at all |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
okay - i'll try that then |
| 00:13 |
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chris |
nope, |
| 00:13 |
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chris |
all it does is tell it what to use as a nameserver |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
right now the file has 4 lines |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
one for domain |
| 00:13 |
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nengard |
one for search |
| 00:14 |
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nengard |
and 2 for IPs |
| 00:14 |
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nengard |
do i just delete the 4 and replace it with the 2 IPs? |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
just replace the 2 ip ones |
| 00:14 |
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rhcl_home |
well, you need at least one line like I posted above for DNS |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
and nameserver |
| 00:15 |
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chris |
sorry |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
nameserver 208.67.220.220 |
| 00:17 |
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rhcl_home |
I have a homebrew firewall running Smoothwall that won't pick up my ISP's DNS for some reason--I have to manually enter it. |
| 00:17 |
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nengard |
thanks guys - that worked |
| 00:17 |
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rhcl_home |
good good |
| 00:18 |
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nengard |
sorry so frustrated - still sick and little things bug me now |
| 00:18 |
|
chris |
no worries |
| 00:19 |
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rhcl_home |
My tech assistant called in today and said his two sons have tentatively been diagnosed with H1N1. |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
crappy |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
my son actually had scarlet fever .. can you believe that? i couldnt, i didnt think it was even around anymore |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
but apparently thats indeed what he had |
| 00:20 |
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rhcl_home |
Gee, I haven't heard of anybody having that in years. |
| 00:20 |
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| 00:20 |
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chris |
yeah exactly |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
turns out its pretty darn harmless these days |
| 00:21 |
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rhcl_home |
really? Probably better drugs to treat it. |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
yeah, ever since pencillin was discovered it became easily treatable |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
fever, sore throat and a rash |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
= cranky kid |
| 00:23 |
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rhcl_home |
for sure |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
are they still quarantining for H1N1 over there? |
| 00:26 |
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rhcl_home |
Oh no. Not sure they ever did actually. No, it's fairly common and everybody just regards it as a variant of seasonal flu. |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
cool, for a while here they tried to contain it |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
which was a pita |
| 00:27 |
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rhcl_home |
Yea, but the genie got out of the bottle. |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 00:31 |
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chris |
ohh koha.ils that would be sweet |
| 00:32 |
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rhcl_home |
Yea, would be cool. |
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| 04:00 |
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chris |
hi Mehwish |
| 04:14 |
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Mehwish |
Hi |
| 04:15 |
|
Mehwish |
I have a problem with my Koha Installation |
| 04:15 |
|
Mehwish |
can anybody help me to solve that I am hange since months.. |
| 04:15 |
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Mehwish |
I am new to Linux and Koha |
| 04:21 |
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Mehwish |
Is thee any one who can solve my problem? |
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Mehwish |
I have problem in adding Item after I save Biblio.. Can anybody help me?? |
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| 04:29 |
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Mehwish |
hello all.. |
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| 04:41 |
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Mehwish |
can any one help me to solve my problem regarding Koha? I am new to Koha and Linux.. |
| 04:42 |
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chris |
what is the problem? |
| 04:42 |
|
Mehwish |
thanks for reply |
| 04:43 |
|
Mehwish |
when I enter Biblio record and hit the save button |
| 04:43 |
|
Mehwish |
I am redirected to add item page |
| 04:43 |
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Mehwish |
but when i enter all fields for that and press the button i get error.. |
| 04:44 |
|
Mehwish |
Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. |
| 04:44 |
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Mehwish |
this is the error.. |
| 04:44 |
|
chris |
what version of koha is it? |
| 04:45 |
|
Mehwish |
3.2 |
| 04:45 |
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chris |
3.0.2 ? |
| 04:45 |
|
chris |
(3.2.0 hasnt been released yet0 |
| 04:45 |
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Mehwish |
yes I am really a new one to Koha |
| 04:45 |
|
Mehwish |
it is 3.00.02 |
| 04:45 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 04:46 |
|
chris |
ok, if you look in the tarball you explanded, in the misc directory |
| 04:46 |
|
chris |
there is a file sax_parser_print.pl |
| 04:47 |
|
chris |
if you do ./sax_parser_print.pl what does it say? |
| 04:47 |
|
Mehwish |
ok i have seen the file.. |
| 04:48 |
|
Mehwish |
Koha wants something like: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) You have: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x82091e8) Looks good. |
| 04:48 |
|
Mehwish |
i got this message.. |
| 04:49 |
|
Mehwish |
yesterday someone told me to change few things in this file.. I mean in ParserDetails.ini |
| 04:50 |
|
Mehwish |
first I was getting error then I got this message "with text Looks Good" |
| 04:50 |
|
Mehwish |
but the problem is at its place.. |
| 04:50 |
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chris |
right, ok, i will have a look and see if i can find the answer |
| 04:50 |
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| 04:51 |
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Mehwish |
OK |
| 04:51 |
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chris |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ugust/019916.html |
| 04:52 |
|
chris |
so you have a couple of choices |
| 04:52 |
|
chris |
you can grab that file and apply the patch locally, or you can get |
| 04:52 |
|
chris |
http://koha-fr.org/content/dif[…]-koha-version-304 |
| 04:52 |
|
chris |
3.0.4 |
| 04:52 |
|
chris |
and upgrade to that |
| 04:53 |
|
chris |
(the link is at the bottom of the page) |
| 04:53 |
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Mehwish |
OK but plz tell me a few things.. |
| 04:53 |
|
chris |
as it has been fixed now |
| 04:54 |
|
Mehwish |
Shall I download new tarball 3.04 and follow all the installation steps that are after this step from my installation guide.. |
| 04:55 |
|
chris |
there should be on that tells you how to upgrade |
| 04:57 |
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Mehwish |
OK Thanks a lot.. I am trying now. |
| 04:57 |
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chris |
good luck :) |
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Ropuch |
Morning, #koha |
| 06:21 |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
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chris |
heya brendan, get some sleep dude :) |
| 06:49 |
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brendan |
:) |
| 06:51 |
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chris |
glad to hear that apart from the crazy airline dramas things went well |
| 06:54 |
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brendan |
yeah it was fun -- take me a day or two to but it all together |
| 06:55 |
|
brendan |
recover some sleep |
| 06:55 |
|
brendan |
how's you weekend going? |
| 06:55 |
|
chris |
pretty good, long weekend, labour day on monday |
| 06:55 |
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brendan |
Yes that's right |
| 06:56 |
|
chris |
and tomorrow kahurangi and i are going to watch the soccer |
| 06:56 |
|
brendan |
excellent and enjoy |
| 06:56 |
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brendan |
maybe I'll catch you sometime later |
| 06:56 |
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brendan |
ZZZZZzzzzzzzz! |
| 06:56 |
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chris |
sleep well |
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| 09:08 |
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fredericd |
chris: Just read your 3.4 targets as RM: very impressive and valuable! |
| 09:10 |
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chris |
thank you fredericd |
| 09:12 |
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fredericd |
Does translation manager represent a lot of work? |
| 09:12 |
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fredericd |
(reading roles for 3.4 wiki page) |
| 09:13 |
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chris |
i spent usually 8 or so hours a week on it |
| 09:14 |
|
chris |
most of that is answering emails |
| 09:14 |
|
chris |
setting up users, etc |
| 09:16 |
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chris |
it is quite fun, you get to talk to people all around the world |
| 09:16 |
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chris |
with the work with template::toolkit it should make translation easier |
| 09:17 |
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fredericd |
Yes, I can imagine (fun part). |
| 09:17 |
|
fredericd |
The Pootle machinery is on your server? |
| 09:17 |
|
fredericd |
It would have to be shifted on new translation manager server? |
| 09:18 |
|
chris |
potentially, or i could give the person ssh access to my machine, whatever they prefered |
| 09:18 |
|
chris |
the nice thing with pootle is there is no db |
| 09:18 |
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chris |
you just have to apt-get install pootle |
| 09:18 |
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chris |
and then copy /var/lib/pootle |
| 09:19 |
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fredericd |
I will have to deal with Arabic installations. Do you think it is the moment to improve Koha translability and multilingual support? |
| 09:19 |
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fredericd |
could be a separated task... |
| 09:20 |
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fredericd |
I mean: how zebra deals with no-latin alphabet, db text translation, etc. |
| 09:21 |
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chris |
yes that would be a great thing to do |
| 09:21 |
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fredericd |
Something else I was thinking about reading your RM proposal: template::toolkit, DB abstraction, caching => why not trying to use Catalyst framework? |
| 09:22 |
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fredericd |
Everything is already done, tested, and documented |
| 09:22 |
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chris |
we can add catalyst in after, the reason not to do it first, as that any one of those other things can be done stand alone, and incrementally |
| 09:23 |
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fredericd |
And Moose integration would ease draticaly code readibility and reusability... |
| 09:23 |
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fredericd |
yes I understand Koha has huge code base which can't be changed at once |
| 09:24 |
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chris |
yep |
| 09:24 |
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chris |
but if we get db abstraction in there, and then tt |
| 09:24 |
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chris |
we pick modules to use a framework on ... moose is too slow to use without mod_perl2 |
| 09:25 |
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chris |
so we would have to make sure it was safe first |
| 09:25 |
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fredericd |
or fastcgi: it is recommanded by Catalyst framework, even if mod_perl is supported |
| 09:26 |
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chris |
i think if we aimed for catalyst or moose, we wouldnt get there, but if we pick small targets |
| 09:26 |
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chris |
and work towards the bigger one |
| 09:32 |
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fredericd |
If moose were at disposal in 3.4, and an application-level cache, it would be possible to simplify a lot how koha deal with its various configurations files/parameters |
| 09:32 |
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chris |
yep, but it is way too much work to get moose into 3.4 |
| 09:32 |
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fredericd |
system preference one level parameters reach it limits and slow down new functionnalities developments |
| 09:32 |
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fredericd |
it needs fundings... |
| 09:32 |
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chris |
but if we can get db abstraction and tt in |
| 09:33 |
|
chris |
then we are on the way |
| 09:33 |
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fredericd |
ok. |
| 09:33 |
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chris |
and 3.6 could be moose |
| 09:33 |
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fredericd |
could you send me your /var/lib/pootle files? |
| 09:34 |
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fredericd |
I would like to take a look and get the picture |
| 09:34 |
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chris |
its pretty big |
| 09:34 |
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chris |
its just the .po files |
| 09:34 |
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fredericd |
a git clone? |
| 09:36 |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "22:35 /var/lib/pootle $ ls -l" (8 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/30 |
| 09:36 |
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chris |
thats what a sample directory looks like |
| 09:36 |
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chris |
and the .po files are in git |
| 09:37 |
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fredericd |
Ok. I will test this way, by copying HEAD .po files. Thanks. |
| 09:37 |
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chris |
cool |
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Ropuch |
Good afternoon |
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* chris_n2 |
digs out from under a pile of email |
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chris |
colins proposal looks pretty good |
| 18:30 |
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chris |
im just really happy someone is crazy enough to want to do QA :) |
| 18:31 |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris [; |
| 18:33 |
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Ropuch |
I've just managed to get local covers and Amazon/Google ones working at the same time |
| 18:33 |
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chris |
ohhh well done :) |
| 18:33 |
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Ropuch |
Now I'm looking for someone who can point what can be done better ;> |
| 18:33 |
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Ropuch |
http://bagno.be/localcovers.html |
| 18:34 |
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Ropuch |
I'm more than sure some steps are unnecessary |
| 18:34 |
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chris |
ohh a right up, thats neat :) |
| 18:36 |
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Ropuch |
It has been bothering me for some time |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
i think one change would be to make the path to the images be a variable too |
| 18:37 |
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Ropuch |
I was considering this |
| 18:37 |
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chris_n2 |
Ropuch: I'd suggest adding line numbers to your code excerpts |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
and then the next extension would be to make that be able to be a url |
| 18:37 |
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Ropuch |
But it's too much thinking for today |
| 18:37 |
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chris_n2 |
nice tutorial |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
it's a very very good start |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
well done |
| 18:38 |
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Ropuch |
My no-perl-jutsu has improved a lot today ;> |
| 18:38 |
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chris |
:) |
| 18:39 |
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Ropuch |
It have other limitationa atm; only jpg files, but this can be done easily |
| 18:39 |
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Ropuch |
Next step is uploading cover images during cataloguing |
| 18:40 |
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Ropuch |
But getting isbn from addbiblio is a bit hard to me |
| 18:40 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 18:52 |
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brendan |
Just going through and reading the proposal form Collin now |
| 18:54 |
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chris |
cool |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
i wonder if hdl has been given back access to download.koha.org yet |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
i see that that the fixed tarball is there, so it looks promising |
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chris |
hi nelsonf |
| 19:17 |
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nelsonf |
Hi Chris |
| 19:18 |
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nelsonf |
I'm trying to get the e-mail functionality going re circulation / books due and overdue |
| 19:18 |
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nelsonf |
We're using OpenSUSE and I believe I need to get postfix running? |
| 19:19 |
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chris |
well you will need some kind of mta running |
| 19:19 |
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chris |
postfix is certainly one option, or you could use exim4 ... whatever you are comfortable with |
| 19:20 |
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nelsonf |
this sort of thing is way out of my league, but I'm willing to make an attempt to get it going |
| 19:21 |
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nelsonf |
do we need an isp to allow for outgoing emails? |
| 19:21 |
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chris |
well the machine needs to be able to send emails succesfully |
| 19:21 |
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chris |
you can test it by running |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
mailx -s "test email" your email.address |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
type some message |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
then hit ctrl-d |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
and it will try to send email, if you get it, all good |
| 19:23 |
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chris |
so the computer will need to have a connection to the internet |
| 19:23 |
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nelsonf |
I'll try this from the command line using PuTTY, right? |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
you can then look in /var/log at the mail.log file (if you are running postfix) |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
or /var/log/exim4/mainlog if you are running exim4 |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
to see what happened to the message |
| 19:28 |
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nelsonf |
The other day I think I determined that postfix is not installed, because no postfix folders |
| 19:28 |
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nelsonf |
Let me look for exim4 now, using WinSCP |
| 19:30 |
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chris |
it probably isnt either, you will need to install one of them |
| 19:30 |
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nelsonf |
I see var/log/exim/main.log |
| 19:31 |
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nelsonf |
I tried to run the mailx command you mentioned, and received an error |
| 19:31 |
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nelsonf |
-bash: mailx: command not found |
| 19:32 |
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chris |
yep sure looks like no mailer set up |
| 19:32 |
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nelsonf |
I've hesitated to configure the mailer, don't want to mess up the koha installation |
| 19:33 |
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nelsonf |
we're not live yet, but actively testing |
| 19:33 |
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nelsonf |
question about the big picture |
| 19:33 |
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nelsonf |
once the mailer is set up, is this all that is needed for Koha to be able to send out those notifications? |
| 19:33 |
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nelsonf |
or are there additional steps? |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
you need to set up some cron jobs |
| 19:37 |
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chris |
take a look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example |
| 19:37 |
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chris |
(i think thats the file name, something like that) |
| 19:37 |
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nelsonf |
I understand from reading the Koha documentation that these cronjobs |
| 19:38 |
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nelsonf |
run nightly. Will the e-mails be able to go directly from our Koha/OpenSUSE box to the recipients, |
| 19:38 |
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nelsonf |
or does an ISP need to be involved? |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
is the koha box connected to the internet? |
| 19:39 |
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nelsonf |
yes |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
then that should be fine |
| 19:39 |
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nelsonf |
most excellent |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
the test would be, can you send a mail from it to something like a gmail account, if so, then koha will have no problems |
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nelsonf |
so one way to skin this cat would be |
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nelsonf |
to look for a step by step documentation on how to install postfix or exim4 |
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nelsonf |
what about additional security concerns if we start running outgoing email? |
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nelsonf |
ie is the Koha installation more susceptible to hackers if we have a mailer running? |
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chris |
nope, what i would do is make it set up to not accept incoming connections |
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chris |
but only be able to send out |
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chris |
as long as you have the from address of the emails be a valid address (so that bounces can go to it) |
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chris |
there is no reason for the koha box to be able to accept mail |
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nelsonf |
another conceptual question... |
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nelsonf |
we have multiple organizations on this single Koha installation |
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chris |
right |
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nelsonf |
so, the From address might best be set up according to the org for a specific patron |
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nelsonf |
i.e. need for multiple From addresses |
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chris |
hmm not sure if koha can handle that just yet |
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nelsonf |
our circulation is very limited, so sending all bounces to both orgs would not be the worst thing |
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chris |
just as long as someone gets them bouncing bounces is about the worst thing :) |
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chris |
ok time to take my son out to play in the sun |
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chris |
good luck |
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nelsonf |
Is the From address by default the KohaAdminEmailAddress in System preferences of the GUI? |
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nelsonf |
thanks very much chris! have fun in the sun with your son |
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nelsonf |
test, using trillian freeware |
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nelsonf |
test again |
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