| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
yep ricardo |
| 00:06 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Cool :) I'm sending you an e-mail right now |
| 00:07 |
|
ricardo |
Sent! |
| 00:07 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 00:09 |
|
ricardo |
I noticed that Pootle shows the 1st character (it's actually Vim's character for BOM - Byte Order Mark - for Unicode UTF-8 files... I think it's harmless) |
| 00:12 |
|
chris |
just testing it now |
| 00:12 |
|
ricardo |
Great :) |
| 00:12 |
|
ricardo |
BTW: I would be interested to see your vimrc (and/or vimrc customisations) |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
i dont use vim |
| 00:13 |
|
ricardo |
chris: You don't? I'm shocked! ;-) So... what do you use? Emacs? Nano? Kate? Gedit? |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
emacs |
| 00:14 |
|
ricardo |
Isn't Emacs "hard on fingers"? |
| 00:14 |
|
chris |
only as hard as vim is on the brain |
| 00:14 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:14 |
|
ricardo |
LOL! |
| 00:15 |
|
ricardo |
You're wrong... vim is easy... It's as easy as git! ;-) |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
templates build ok |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
pushing up now |
| 00:16 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Cool :) |
| 00:16 |
|
ricardo |
(Hmm.... VirtualBox not responding) |
| 00:17 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I see that you pushed it already (thanks!). The diff is scary: |
| 00:17 |
|
ricardo |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]61210bc9f0d663160 |
| 00:18 |
|
chris |
yes, you appear to have made a lot of changes, mostly whitespace |
| 00:18 |
|
ricardo |
Darn... |
| 00:19 |
|
ricardo |
Not on purpose though |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
what did you use for editing? |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
windows eh? |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
+#: ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/virtualshelves/shelves.tmpl:348\r |
| 00:20 |
|
* chris |
see carriage returns |
| 00:20 |
|
ricardo |
I think I used vim... Although the last thing was "SVN Update" to a Windows machine (but don't remember to do any changes there) |
| 00:20 |
|
ricardo |
Let me check this |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 00:20 |
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| 00:20 |
|
chris |
yeah, that might put the carriage returns in, (the svn update) |
| 00:20 |
|
ricardo |
But this is what I usually do... And I don't usually get that "carriage returns" ;-) |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
but thats why so many changes lots of \r |
| 00:20 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Yeah... I hate that |
| 00:21 |
|
ricardo |
I confirm that the file is in UNIX format. It shouldn't behave that way |
| 00:22 |
|
chris |
hmm check it in vi |
| 00:23 |
|
ricardo |
Looks correct... |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
not a big worry tho, tis harmless, but would be good to figure out where they came from |
| 00:23 |
|
ricardo |
# file pt-PT-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po |
| 00:23 |
|
ricardo |
pt-PT-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po: UTF-8 Unicode (with BOM) PO (gettext message catalogue) text |
| 00:23 |
|
ricardo |
The only thing is the "BOM" that I mentioned before (inserted by Vim... but that should also be harmless) |
| 00:24 |
|
chris |
vim carefully hides the \r from me, vi shows them |
| 00:25 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Hmmm... OK. Let me try this in vi compatible mode then |
| 00:25 |
|
ricardo |
Nope... Not even in compatible mode I see them :-/ |
| 00:26 |
|
ricardo |
Do you want to reset that commit and try another one, activating the "fix whitespace errors" or similar feature of git? |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
yeah, ill do that, will revert it, and fix the whitespace |
| 00:26 |
|
ricardo |
Make git automatically remove trailing whitespace before committing |
| 00:26 |
|
ricardo |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]before-committing |
| 00:27 |
|
ricardo |
I don't know if that helps... I'm just *trying* to help :) |
| 00:29 |
|
chris |
here we go |
| 00:30 |
|
ricardo |
"EOL: LF" ... Everything seems to be right :-/ |
| 00:30 |
|
chris |
there, without the whitespace changes this time |
| 00:31 |
|
ricardo |
chris: OK, cool! What was the secret formula, then? :) |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
i just stripped the \r with sed :) |
| 00:32 |
|
ricardo |
LOL! |
| 00:32 |
|
ricardo |
That's cheating! ;-) |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
i cheat doing finds too |
| 00:32 |
|
ricardo |
Eheh |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
find /. | grep "filename" |
| 00:33 |
|
ricardo |
I'm more of a "locate" kind of guy |
| 00:33 |
|
ricardo |
updatedb; locate -i filename |
| 00:33 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:34 |
|
ricardo |
In a fast machine, the seconds that updatedb take don't bother me :) |
| 00:35 |
|
ricardo |
Where do you have your git tree? Something like /home/chris/kohaclone ? /kohaclone ? /root/kohaclone ? |
| 00:35 |
|
chris |
never in root |
| 00:36 |
|
chris |
on my dev box its /home/chris/git/koha.git |
| 00:36 |
|
chris |
along with all my other git repo's |
| 00:36 |
|
chris |
-' |
| 00:36 |
|
ricardo |
chris: OK, cool. Thanks :) |
| 00:37 |
|
ricardo |
"never in root" meaning "never in root's home", right? You may create a "kohaclone" root folder (at the same level of /usr /var /root etc...), right? |
| 00:37 |
|
chris |
i probably wouldnt do that either, cos that would need superuser privs |
| 00:38 |
|
chris |
i try not to use elevated privileges when i don't need to |
| 00:38 |
|
ricardo |
chris: It would, yes |
| 00:38 |
|
ricardo |
OK. That's a good policy |
| 00:39 |
|
ricardo |
No changes from your PO file to mine... Good :) |
| 00:40 |
|
ricardo |
Meanwhile VirtualBox is still not responding.... |
| 00:40 |
|
chris |
sweet, maybe the zipping did something weird, or unzipping, who knows, fixed now :) |
| 00:40 |
|
ricardo |
Yeah... I'm blaming ZIP now, as well (hey, I need a culprit! ;-) |
| 00:42 |
|
ricardo |
I think that I'll have to reboot now. BBL. |
| 00:42 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Thanks for having submitted the updated translation |
| 00:42 |
|
|
chris_n2-away is now known as chris_n2 |
| 00:42 |
|
chris |
no problem |
| 00:42 |
|
ricardo |
BTW: what's up with munin? |
| 00:43 |
|
chris |
not sure, gmcharlt looks after it |
| 00:43 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Oh, OK. Thanks for the info |
| 00:43 |
|
chris_n2 |
ricardo: vim can be made to trim whitespaces on save |
| 00:43 |
|
chris |
it may have been still runnin gon a LL server perhaps |
| 00:43 |
|
chris |
not sure |
| 00:43 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: Cool... What's the super-trick for that? :) |
| 00:43 |
|
pastebot |
Someone at 192.168.15.101 pasted "" Removes trailing spaces func" (13 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/14 |
| 00:43 |
|
chris_n2 |
check that paste |
| 00:44 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: %s/\s*$// |
| 00:44 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: Got it... Thanks :) |
| 00:44 |
|
chris_n2 |
long live vim... ;-) |
| 00:44 |
|
ricardo |
chris: And "logbot_backup" is yours? |
| 00:44 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: Eheh |
| 00:44 |
|
chris |
yep, that and the pastebot |
| 00:44 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Cool. OK, thanks |
| 00:45 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: I'll want to see your vimrc :) |
| 00:45 |
|
chris |
was set up, cos i was scared logbot would disappear .. |
| 00:45 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Good thinking! |
| 00:46 |
|
ricardo |
OK. This is it... Rebooting now |
| 00:46 |
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| 00:59 |
|
* chris |
heads off to a meeting |
| 00:59 |
|
chris |
bbiab |
| 01:00 |
|
* chris_n2 |
heads off to eat pizza |
| 01:13 |
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| 01:19 |
|
ricardo |
Going to bed now. Take care everyone! |
| 01:19 |
|
ricardo |
:) |
| 01:20 |
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| 01:34 |
|
chris |
back |
| 01:41 |
|
brendan |
wb chris |
| 01:41 |
|
chris |
thanks, good weekend brendan ? |
| 01:42 |
|
brendan |
so far great -- waiting for Sonja to get home -- made her a nice dinner (and got her some flowers) |
| 01:42 |
|
brendan |
how was yours |
| 01:43 |
|
chris |
busy but good |
| 01:43 |
|
brendan |
:) |
| 03:43 |
|
brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 03:43 |
|
brendan |
munin? |
| 04:08 |
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| 04:10 |
|
drupsta |
Hi ALL |
| 04:27 |
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| 05:09 |
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john |
Anyone here? |
| 05:13 |
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| 05:26 |
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| 05:31 |
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|Lupin| |
good morning koha |
| 05:37 |
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| 06:26 |
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|Lupin| |
hi again |
| 06:27 |
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Madar |
hi lupin |
| 06:29 |
|
Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
| 06:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello Madar |
| 06:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi Ropuch |
| 06:36 |
|
Madar |
how can i edit marc configiration |
| 06:36 |
|
Madar |
?? |
| 06:36 |
|
Madar |
? |
| 06:37 |
|
Ropuch |
You mean: marc flavor (UNIMARC/MARC21)? |
| 06:37 |
|
Ropuch |
Or something else? |
| 06:38 |
|
|Lupin| |
anyone knows how to retrieve a recorde based on its biblionumber in opac, pls ? |
| 06:39 |
|
Ropuch |
/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=892 |
| 06:39 |
|
Ropuch |
Change the number to whatever you want ;> |
| 06:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
Ropuch: yeah thanks, I new this one. I just wanted to avoid typing the URL; thought perhaps there is something one can enter in the research field and which will lead to the right page. |
| 06:45 |
|
fredericd |
|Lupin|: Local-number:120 to find biblio record #120 |
| 06:45 |
|
fredericd |
hi |
| 06:48 |
|
Ropuch |
oh |
| 06:48 |
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|Lupin| |
fredericd: hello ! thanks !! |
| 06:48 |
|
Ropuch |
Nice |
| 06:48 |
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Ropuch |
fredericd: i didn't knwo that, usefull [; |
| 06:49 |
|
Ropuch |
Thanks :) |
| 06:49 |
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|Lupin| |
fredericd: I was pretty sure there was something like that. |
| 06:49 |
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|Lupin| |
fredericd: where does the "Local-number" name come from ? is it hte name of a Zebra index or something like that ? |
| 06:53 |
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fredericd |
|Lupin|: You have to take a look at two places: record.abs for your marc flavour, and ccl.properties file |
| 07:06 |
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Madar |
Ropuch i dnt know actually , but i found im MARC bibliographic framework test You have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha |
| 07:08 |
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|Lupin| |
fredericd: ok, thanks a lot ! |
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| 08:18 |
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|Lupin| |
perl question pls |
| 08:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
I defined a function in a module |
| 08:18 |
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|Lupin| |
and try to call it from a script |
| 08:18 |
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|Lupin| |
perl doesn't find it |
| 08:19 |
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|Lupin| |
I call another function defined n the same module, perl sees it |
| 08:19 |
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|Lupin| |
however none of them are exported explicitly... |
| 08:19 |
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|Lupin| |
any idea what I'm doign wrong ? |
| 08:19 |
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hdl_laptop |
EXPORT must have this function defined |
| 08:20 |
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|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: ah EXPORT in uppercase... |
| 08:20 |
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|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: there is no EXPORT in the module and however one function gets called whereas mine is not |
| 08:21 |
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hdl_laptop |
you have an array at the head of this function |
| 08:22 |
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|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: ? |
| 08:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
@EXPORT = qw( |
| 08:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
usually in the BEGIN block |
| 08:24 |
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|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: there is no such thing in the module, so I think the actual mystery for me is how it works for the other funciton... |
| 08:26 |
|
chris |
can you paste the whole module at http://paste.workbuffer.org |
| 08:26 |
|
|Lupin| |
sure |
| 08:26 |
|
|Lupin| |
http://pastebin.com/f5b703a0a |
| 08:27 |
|
|Lupin| |
I just wrote the maintainance_mode function |
| 08:27 |
|
|Lupin| |
and try to call it from a script |
| 08:27 |
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|Lupin| |
it doesn't work and perl says it's undefined |
| 08:27 |
|
|Lupin| |
but if I replae this call by a call to top, it works |
| 08:29 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 08:30 |
|
chris |
i notice something else, it says GPL 2, but also it is not free software |
| 08:31 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: yeah because I forgot to remove the old thing saying it is not free... |
| 08:31 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: this is a part of the cade that will disappear anyway since thenew platform will be KOha based |
| 08:31 |
|
chris |
can you paste the code that is calling it also please? |
| 08:32 |
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|Lupin| |
sure |
| 08:33 |
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|Lupin| |
http://pastebin.com/f78a5e793 |
| 08:33 |
|
|Lupin| |
replacing the call by top("foo") works |
| 08:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
(i.e. it produces another error but later, proving that the function is really called) |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
ahhh |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
well that is why top is working |
| 08:34 |
|
chris |
you are giving it the full name |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
if it was exported you could just go top() |
| 08:35 |
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chris |
now to see why maintainance_mode isnt |
| 08:35 |
|
chris |
(you also have 2 BEGIN blocks ... you dont want that) |
| 08:37 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ok, I removed the second BEGIN block |
| 08:37 |
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|Lupin| |
but it doesn't work better with maintainance_mode |
| 08:37 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: the call also fully qualifies the name, so shouldn't it work as it does for top ? |
| 08:38 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 08:38 |
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chris |
im just checking for typos |
| 08:40 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: thanks... looking for that, too |
| 08:41 |
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chris |
when you run perl -c that_file |
| 08:41 |
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chris |
does it complain about that call still? |
| 08:42 |
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|Lupin| |
let me check |
| 08:43 |
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| 08:43 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: no; test.pl syntax OK |
| 08:43 |
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chris |
and when you run it, what is the error? |
| 08:43 |
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|Lupin| |
(does it check that functions are defined?) |
| 08:44 |
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|Lupin| |
sorbier:~/src/helene/webserverv1/cgi-bin$ perl test.pl > /tmp/log 2>&1 |
| 08:44 |
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|Lupin| |
http://pastebin.com/f6df8c0e3 |
| 08:46 |
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|Lupin| |
I also did a perl -c on the module, it says the syntax is ok |
| 08:55 |
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|Lupin| |
now I removed all useless modules from the test script... same problem |
| 08:57 |
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|Lupin| |
ok, I have found the problem |
| 08:59 |
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|Lupin| |
somehow Perl loads the wrong module... a version already installed on the system and which does not have the function... |
| 09:00 |
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chris |
it will load the first one it finds, so there must be one in the perl @INC |
| 09:02 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: yeah I jsut displayed the @INC hoping o see a directory which might contain such a module but I can't see such a directory... |
| 09:02 |
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|Lupin| |
oh yes it does |
| 09:02 |
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|Lupin| |
/home/seb/src/koha |
| 09:02 |
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|Lupin| |
and I copied the library there |
| 09:03 |
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|Lupin| |
so it takes this version rather than the one I'm modifying... |
| 09:04 |
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chris |
probably taking both |
| 09:04 |
|
chris |
and redefining, hence the undefined message |
| 09:05 |
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|Lupin| |
right... |
| 09:06 |
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|Lupin| |
ok, I'm ashamed I dusturbed you with such a silly question chris |
| 09:06 |
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|Lupin| |
my apologies for that |
| 09:06 |
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chris |
np |
| 09:08 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: you know the storry about the sheppard that was yaling there was a wolf and in fact there was no wolf at all ? |
| 09:09 |
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chris |
crying wolf :) |
| 09:09 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: at the end there really was a wolf and nobody came to rescue him because they didn't believe him... |
| 09:10 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: yeah exactly.. so I feel a bit like the shephard... :/ |
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| 10:07 |
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ricardo |
Good morning everyone! |
| 10:07 |
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|Lupin| |
hello ricardo |
| 10:07 |
|
ricardo |
|Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :) |
| 10:09 |
|
ricardo |
I'm having a strange problem in one setup that I have (running git Koha 3.0.x in SuSE - SLES 10 SP2). The first page, after login, in the Intranet - "mainpage.pl" - appears in English, instead of Portuguese. All the other pages in the staff appear correctly in Portuguese. I don't have this problem in other similar installs :-/ |
| 10:12 |
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ricardo |
... and if I click in the "Português" link, at the bottom of the screen, I remain in the "English" option |
| 10:12 |
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chris |
what does intranet-tmpl/prog/pt-PT/modules/intranet-main.tmpl look like? |
| 10:12 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Good morning. Let me check that |
| 10:14 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Err... It doesn't |
| 10:14 |
|
ricardo |
/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/pt-PT/modules # ls |
| 10:14 |
|
ricardo |
about.tmpl acqui admin authorities auth.tmpl catalogue cataloguing |
| 10:15 |
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chris |
theres the problem |
| 10:15 |
|
chris |
you could do an install-code.pl pt-PT |
| 10:15 |
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chris |
and copy over the created file |
| 10:16 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Yeah, but I did that - ran "./install-code.pl pt-PT" (and deleted the folder "pt-PT" right before that, just in case) |
| 10:16 |
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ricardo |
I'll do it it again and generate a log |
| 10:16 |
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chris |
it created it fine on my machine |
| 10:16 |
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chris |
using the .po file you sent |
| 10:16 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right |
| 10:17 |
|
chris |
BUT, that .po is for 3.0.4 (or what is in the 3.0.x branch anyway) |
| 10:17 |
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ricardo |
chris: I updated the PO file with git... And git log shows the commit. Let me check this... I still have the log for this |
| 10:17 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right. I'm in the 3.0.x branch :) |
| 10:17 |
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chris |
so it might not work against 3.0.3 |
| 10:17 |
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|Lupin| |
lunch |
| 10:17 |
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chris |
in that case it should work fine |
| 10:18 |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: OK. Have a nice lunch! |
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pastebot |
"ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Output of "./install-code.pl pt-PT" in a git Koha 3.0.x install in SLES 10 SP2" (826 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/15 |
| 10:24 |
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ricardo |
Aren't you glad that I pasted those 826 lines to pastebot, and not here to the channel? ;-) |
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hdl_laptop |
sure ;) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
weird |
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ricardo |
chris: Right... There's no entry for "intranet-main" |
| 10:26 |
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chris |
Creating ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/pt-PT//modules/catalogue/suggest.tmpl... |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Hi Henri! Good morning :) |
| 10:26 |
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chris |
Creating ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/pt-PT//modules/intranet-main.tmpl... |
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chris |
thats what i get |
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ricardo |
chris: Yeah... I have other setups (one with openSUSE 11.1 and another one with Debian 5.0.3) where I do NOT have this problem |
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* chris |
has to go to bed, but im guessing a gettext issue then |
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ricardo |
chris: OK. Thanks for the tip. I will have to investigate this... or not. The final install will probably be in SLES 11 (and not SLES 10 SP2) |
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* chris_n2 |
says g'night to chris |
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|Lupin| |
hi jane |
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jwagner |
Bonjour |
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|Lupin| |
jwagner: excellent :) |
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|Lupin| |
hello jdavidb :) |
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jdavidb |
Hi, |Lupin|! :) |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: I was wondering.. shall I keep the debian.packages file I once built, or do you have it and I can get rid of it ? |
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jdavidb |
for the Squeeze test? That's the one I have, and am tinkering with, yes. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: hmm I tend to get lost with debian code names... squeeze is the current testing one ? |
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jdavidb |
Right. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: what's the name of current stable again ? |
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jdavidb |
"Lenny". |
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|Lupin| |
ah right, thanks jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
It's still pretty new; a lot of folks are still using the current oldstable, which is "Etch." |
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jdavidb |
I've not had *any* issues with Lenny installs, though. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: I think it would be worth preparing a package file also for this one, cause Koha 3.2 has some newdependencies that were not there for KOha 3.0 |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: also had a few |
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jdavidb |
Probably so; I know there are some recent new dependencies, so the packages file for lenny probably needs some updating. |
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jdavidb |
I'm doing a whole bunch of lenny installs for some testing and demos this week; I'll try to remember to take notes, and send a patch for the lenny file. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: great. I can think of IPC::Cmd and the thing that does caching as things to double-check, that's all I remember |
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jdavidb |
Those are the two that stick out in my mind, too. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: but I have also sent a patch for fixing a wrong package name I think, so that shold be in the archives of the koha-patches mailing list |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: I think this has not been applied so far, don't know why |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: other tricky think is that some Perl modules packages required by KOha are not packaged but a few of their dependencies are, and shold be installed, too |
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jdavidb |
*nod* I'd like to install as many via packages as possible; it's a little easier to keep track of that way, since Debian doesn't shift versions on things quite as often as CPAN does. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: the issue with IPC::Cmd was that it's not a package per se; it's part of perl-modules, so I installed this one from cpan to have the right version |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: right |
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|Lupin| |
can someone please remind me the name of the syspref used to set koha in maintainance mode or something like that ? I can't remember it right now |
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jdavidb |
OPACMaintenance, I think. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: ah, thanks |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: hmm, this syspref seems to have vanished... no trouble though, I'll just remove the editcatalogue permission for those users who have it and that will do |
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jdavidb |
Hm...That's odd; a syspref search for "Maint" is what I usually do to find it fast. |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: I did a select with Maint and it didn't return anything... |
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|Lupin| |
aurelie_v: bonjour |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: hi |
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nengard |
hiya - just emailed you back |
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hdl_laptop |
hav you managed to get the tree ? |
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hdl_laptop |
just received your email |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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hdl_laptop |
have you sent more ? |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: have you sent more than one ? |
| 12:26 |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop - no just the one where i started all over |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: works for me on my laptop with your passphrase |
| 12:36 |
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nengard |
so I can try again? |
| 12:36 |
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hdl_laptop |
I think so. |
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aurelie_v is now known as paul_p |
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ricardo |
back for a while |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: please provide ssh/config full path to your ssh key file. |
| 12:37 |
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ricardo |
" *** aurelie_v is now known as paul_p " ... Hmmm.... Multiple personality? ;-= |
| 12:37 |
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paul_p |
my dell XPS is broken. Using a spare desktop until it's repaired |
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paul_p |
;-) |
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hdl_laptop |
And not simple basename |
| 12:37 |
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paul_p |
(Aurelie has left BibLibre, and not be replaced yet) |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: In a "make test" I did yesterday, I think there's a missing dependency in "Makefile.PL" ("DublinCore::Record"). Should I report this / submit a patch? I have a problem: I don't know what would be the "DublinCore::Record" version required |
| 12:38 |
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ricardo |
(for 3.0.x) |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop - okay - I'll make that change |
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ricardo |
paul_p: OK :) |
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hdl_laptop |
Dublincore::Record ??? |
| 12:40 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Yep, I think so |
| 12:41 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Yes... |
| 12:41 |
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ricardo |
I can put this in Pastebot... wait, please |
| 12:46 |
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pastebot |
"ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted ""make test" for Koha 3.0.x complains about missing "DublinCore::Record"" (26 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/16 |
| 12:52 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: There... Pasted it to "workbuffer" / pastebot ^^^ |
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hdl_laptop |
seen |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK |
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jdavidb |
Hi, mmm! Long time no see. |
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nengard |
mmm - is that michele? |
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mmm |
yes |
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nengard |
HI!! :) |
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mmm |
I just realised that I have not signed for while |
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mmm |
how is everyone doing |
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jdavidb |
Nine kinds of awesome, here. |
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nengard |
just finished setting up git for the 3.2 manual here - so i'm pretty stoked :) |
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nengard |
thanks to help from hdl_laptop!!!! |
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ricardo |
nengard: cool :) |
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nengard |
writing email now |
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nengard |
http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]ohadocs;a=summary |
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nengard |
time to head out and get a flu shot so I can make it to Norway without getting sick :) be back shortly |
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chris_n |
nengard++ #for the work on the manual |
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nengard |
thanks chris_n - still a long way to go |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: it's really cool that the manual goes into git ! I'm pleased because I'll be able to generate doc in txt format which I find especially convenient |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: but does this mean that the ability to modify the KOha manual on the web is lost ? |
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nengard |
Lupin - there was not ability to modify the manual online - you could create new pages but not edit exisiting ones taht I wrote - a big issue for me - so hopefully we can find a way to overcome that barrier with this new format and a git reop |
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nengard |
repo |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: ok... I'm not sure how something could be both in Git and editable online, but if the two options are mutually exclusive, I think I'd defninitely choose git |
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nengard |
Lupin - sorry - not editable online - but editable by downloading it from git |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: yep |
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|Lupin| |
someone knows how to display file permissions in numerical rather than symbolial representations, please ? |
| 15:11 |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: stat * -c "%a %n" |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: ah I didn't know there was a stat command !!! thanks a lot ricardo ! |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: No problem... I must admit I had to Google a bit to answer your question (and adapted a result that I found :) |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I also googled before asking, but apparently not enough. It's cool to know this command exists ! then one just have to read the man to accomodate the results nicely... |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I just tried the comand and it does exactly what I want, you are great :-) |
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|Lupin| |
(here the coma should not be read as a logical implicaiton) |
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|Lupin| |
and above all it sholdn't be read as a logical equivalence. |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: LOL! |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: Cool. I'm glad that helped :) |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: the organization that employs me has a digital library project and this project stores files on a file system. I'm just doing a lot of opeations to convert this file system from an old to a newer format. So this implies a lot of shell scriping, it's really an interesting test to figure out how good one is at shell programming |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: For most of the Admin tasks that I do, I stopped doing "shell scripts" and started writing "Perl scripts" |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I see... Well I'm not good enough with Perl to actually gain some efficiency... |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: Yeah... That takes a bit of time, in the beginning |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: actually, I think that I decide for which task whether it will be shell, perl or perhaps even Caml, depending of what seems easier to me, the code I already have related to the task, etc. |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: yep. |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: I never touched Caml, so I can't comment on that one... You can write a Perl with shell commands, by using system("command"); e.g: system("ls -l"); Granted, for many things it's better to use a native Perl construct than to use "system", but for some things it works well |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I certainly believe you... I even used $var=`command` in Perl once, I think. |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: Maybe... I don't remember if that's allowed, but it may be |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I think it is... |
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ricardo |
|Lupin|: OK |
| 16:04 |
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ricardo |
Oh boy... |
| 16:04 |
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ricardo |
Trouble |
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ricardo |
http://twitpic.com/m4v8y |
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wizzyrea |
omg, I got that one too! |
| 16:07 |
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wizzyrea |
I thought it was just me |
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ricardo |
wizzyrea: Right... Everyone always think that anrything only happens to them! ;-) |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I can't read the page well wth lynx... what's the problem ? |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo: ? |
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hdl_laptop |
Is that on 3.0.x? |
| 16:09 |
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wizzyrea |
well, I'm prone to stupid mistakes >.> |
| 16:10 |
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wizzyrea |
so *usually* it is just me :P |
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ricardo |
wizzyrea: LOL! |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: I'm doing an update from SLES 10 SP2 to SLES 11... and had to change some paths. And now I'm getting this. |
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|Lupin| |
ricardo: I could have said the same... |
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hdl_laptop |
that may come from debug level too important or CGI::Session |
| 16:11 |
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hdl_laptop |
make sure you use CGI::Session::Serialize::YAML |
| 16:11 |
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ricardo |
There are some curious entries in the error log... Pasting it to Pastebot in a few moments |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Oh, I am using CGI::Session::Serialize::YAML : |
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ricardo |
# rpm -qa | grep -i cgi-session |
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ricardo |
perl-CGI-Session-Serialize-yaml-4.24-1.22 |
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ricardo |
perl-CGI-Session-4.42-8.5 |
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hdl_laptop |
ok |
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pastebot |
"ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Koha Error Log for a "Content-type: text/html" Loop in Koha 3.0.x" (25 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/17 |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: still around ? |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo : set debug level to 1 anywhere you can |
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nengard |
Lupin yes -- but on the phone |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: ok, pls tell me when you're available, I'd like to talk about a part of the manual with you |
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nengard |
okey dokey |
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* nengard |
on phone |
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|Lupin| |
artichokey |
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|Lupin| |
thanks nengard |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK, will do |
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* paul_p |
leaves office. See you tomorrow morning #koha ! |
| 16:45 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK, this is weird: |
| 16:45 |
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ricardo |
" NO /root/kohaclone/kohaversion.pl at /koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 203." |
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* nengard |
off the phone |
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ricardo |
But I already updated paths in "koha-conf.xml" :-/ |
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nengard |
Lupin - what did you want to ask? |
| 16:46 |
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ricardo |
and in "koha-httpd.conf" |
| 16:46 |
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ricardo |
(I no longer have a "/root/kohaclone", only a "/koha/kohaclone") |
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ricardo |
I'll do a reboot (just to be sure) |
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* nengard |
lunching |
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ricardo |
Is it "fair game" to edit wrong paths in koha/kohaclone/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml and koha/ricardokohaclone/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-httpd.conf (although those files are marked "read-only")? |
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ricardo |
Never mind... I'll do a "make test"; "make install" instead |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: hmm I missed you, sorry |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: not sure whether I shold wait for you or just go home and talk to you from there |
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wizzyrea |
|Lupin| she'll probably be 30-40 mins |
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|Lupin| |
wizzyrea: ok, thanks a lot ! |
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nengard |
back |
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nengard |
hehe |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: oh wow, you're a quick luncher !! |
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nengard |
Lupin - i've been sick |
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nengard |
just eating something small |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: I wante d to tellyou about two system preferences |
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nengard |
k |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: just checking heir names... |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: staffClientBaseURL and OPACBaseURL |
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nengard |
yep - they are for the url to your staff client and your OPAC |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: I think the manuals document them as if they work, but as far as I know they actually do _not_ work so far. |
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ricardo |
OK... I solved that bug (infinite loop)... and I'm back to the old bug (first page after staff client appears in English... Oh well. I'll leave for today. I think I'll be back here in 4 hours or so.) |
| 17:02 |
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nengard |
both need http:// in front of them |
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nengard |
Lupin - they weren't used at all - until I submitted some patches that do use them |
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nengard |
so theyll be used in 3.2 |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: really !? |
| 17:03 |
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nengard |
:) yup |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: and they are used consistently everywhere in KOha now ? |
| 17:03 |
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nengard |
no - not that i know of - but i don't think they're required everywhere - are they? |
| 17:03 |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: that's really great !! I missed this feature so much !! |
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ricardo |
(Looking at traffic cameras on the Web... |
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nengard |
Like I said - I know that they work for the features I wrote -but I did not fix them globally |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: well... which links according to you shold not take them into account ? |
| 17:04 |
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ricardo |
"Bad traffic! Bad!" ;-) |
| 17:04 |
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nengard |
Lupin - no clue :) hehe - just know that the system seems to work a-ok without them set |
| 17:04 |
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nengard |
would need a developer's input on this |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: yeah so they do not work everywhere... according to me every url generated topoint to the OPAC shold take the OPAC one into account, same for the intranet |
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Ropuch |
Evening, #koha |
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|Lupin| |
hi Ropuch |
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wizzyrea |
lol nengard that was the fastest lunch ever |
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owen |
Oh nice, Liblime has kicked me off the Liblime-users list. |
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owen |
Guess what guys, our contract isn't up until January! |
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wizzyrea |
... |
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nengard |
owen - wait - aren't you a LL customer? |
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wizzyrea |
!! You're a muck stirrer !! |
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nengard |
and isn't the list for LL customers? |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: what I mean is that by reading the manual it's what I understood -- that all the OPAC-related urls use th opac sysperf and the same for intranet related urls and the intranet syspref. And then I realized it was not the case and was frustrated. |
| 17:06 |
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wizzyrea |
owen: still, that's epic dirty. |
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nengard |
Ahhh - okay - Lupin I'll update the description to make it clear that it's not used for everything at this time |
| 17:07 |
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* owen |
was about to stir up some more muck! |
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Ropuch |
[; |
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Ropuch |
Sue them! ;-) |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: /me disappointed :) |
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schuster |
Did you get an email? or how did you know you were bumped? |
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nengard |
I'd be happy to have one less email list to read through :) |
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nengard |
Lupin - sorry :( |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
is there a bug for it? |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: actually the wonderfur thing would be to patch KOha so that they are used everywhere... but I realsie it's a logt of job and don't have the time myself to do it |
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owen |
schuster: I got a message that my email was "being held until the list moderator can review it for approval." |
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owen |
"Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list" |
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wizzyrea |
wowie |
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schuster |
hmmm used the same email account right? Very interesting... I'll probably be next. |
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|Lupin| |
nengard: yeah, but I céan't remember the number right now... it was suggested to get rid of the sysprefs, but I added a comemnt to explain why it was not a good idea IMO |
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wizzyrea |
and nengard got a nastygram from LL too |
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nengard |
schuster? why would you be next?? |
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wizzyrea |
??! |
| 17:09 |
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schuster |
I keep asking when when when... |
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owen |
Because schuster didn't call to have me tarred-and-feathered when I stirred up muck ;) Let that be a lesson to all of you! |
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schuster |
As a self hosted we would be treated like community - but pay support for community upgrades and we are "tied-in" for the 5 year contract. |
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* jdavidb |
wouldn't tar-and-feather owen, even for funsies. He's too awesome for that. |
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wizzyrea |
schuster did you have the option to say "this isn't what we signed up for, let us out?" |
| 17:11 |
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schuster |
Havn't gotten legal yet.... |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
i know our contract is under review |
| 17:11 |
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schuster |
We also have some development that I'm waiting to see from them. |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
so do we |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
and we haven't had any updates since... june-ish? |
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ricardo |
Bye ppl! |
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| 17:12 |
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nengard |
so much sadness :( |
| 17:12 |
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wizzyrea |
well, actually, that's not entirely accurate. we've had a couple very specific bugfixes since then |
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schuster |
Yep... No updates and I have been getting emails that logs are being noted - "when this bug is fixed in community it will be applied to your system" |
| 17:12 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, we are getting those too |
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Ropuch |
Uh |
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schuster |
I sent Josh and Marc an email today about our development timelines. |
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wizzyrea |
so have we |
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wizzyrea |
last week, actually |
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wizzyrea |
and we have heard nothing |
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nengard |
schuster - did you report your bugs/requests/issues on bugs.koha.org - feel free to email me some of them if you need help with them - I'll do my best |
| 17:13 |
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nengard |
same for wizzyrea |
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schuster |
3166 is one that they noted |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
a lot of our stuff is fixed already |
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schuster |
Lucky you...wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
we just need the effin patches. :( |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
don't know, don't feel so lucky |
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schuster |
I'd better stop now or I'll be sanctioned. |
| 17:16 |
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nengard |
that too is way too sad :( |
| 17:16 |
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Ropuch |
How can I git clone the kohadocs repo? I'm not familiar with git and can't figure out the repository ulr |
| 17:17 |
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nengard |
Ropuch - I used this: |
| 17:17 |
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nengard |
git clone gitosis git.biblibre.com:kohadocs.git clonedoc |
| 17:17 |
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nengard |
but I don't know if that is what you need |
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Ropuch |
nengard: yep, but it requires a password - maybe it's not public yet? |
| 17:18 |
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nengard |
Ropuch - yeah - hdl said he had to remove the password we set up for me to start the work - so we probably just need to wait a little bit |
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nengard |
besides like I said the version in there isn't complete and isn't the one I'm going to work on anymore - I'm going to start fresh |
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Ropuch |
nengard: ok, I'm just courious [; |
| 17:19 |
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brendan |
nengard++ startingfresh++ |
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nengard |
:) |
| 17:19 |
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nengard |
I need a good refreshing in general |
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Ropuch |
I'm thinking of starting an english-polish dictionary with modern librarianship vocabulary, all i have acces to are pretty out-of-date |
| 17:25 |
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Ropuch |
Polish mozilla translating team has something like that, pretty simple and useful |
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chris |
*sigh* i find it telling that joshua doesnt have time to commit code back, or answer questions, but has time to threaten nengard |
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chris |
i guess it shouldnt suprise me, he already threatened me earlier this year, but still ... what a dick |
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jdavidb |
Hi, chris. I guess y'all are just special; he hasn't hassled me yet. But the day is young. |
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|Lupin| |
all the best everybody, time to go home |
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|Lupin| |
bye |
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chris |
savitra++ #lots of good answers on the mailing lists |
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brendan |
still no munin eh? |
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chris |
yeah, havent seen galen for a couple of days |
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brendan |
how am I supposed to know what the weather is like outside? |
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brendan |
I guess I will use old fashion ways and open a window |
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nengard |
hehe - or turn on the news - or visit weather.com |
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nengard |
:) |
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chris |
hehe |
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chris |
web owen |
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brendan |
chris is now in spiderman mode |
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nengard |
hehe - was wondering what he meant by 'web' |
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nengard |
thanks for clearing that up :) |
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chris |
wb i meant to type |
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nengard |
but it's so much fun to pick on you :) |
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nengard |
will do |
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owen |
I'm feeling a bit disreputable today thanks to my mailing list ban ;) |
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chris |
be careful, or i will send you an email and cc a lawyer nengard |
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brendan |
koha loves you owen |
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pianohacker |
hello |
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chris |
quick there he is nengard |
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chris |
hiya pianohacker |
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nengard |
pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
oh no |
| 18:16 |
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nengard |
was just talking about you :) hehe |
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* pianohacker |
runs away again |
| 18:16 |
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nengard |
was about to write you an email |
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jdavidb |
run away, pianohacker! |
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nengard |
NO NO NO - :) |
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nengard |
you're all so mean to me :( boo hoo |
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pianohacker |
I saw the one about sysprefs |
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pianohacker |
I just can't handle all the pressure! |
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nengard |
no another one - |
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brendan |
hi pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi brendan, jdavidb, chris, nengard |
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nengard |
I'm actually writing up the manual now for sys prefs - but I wanted to ask if you need help - and I wanted to suggest - or do it for you - that you put the prefs in alpha order |
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nengard |
is that something I can do to aleviate pressure? |
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nengard |
also if you tell me what sections need prefs still I can try to help with that too |
| 18:18 |
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nengard |
anything that makes my documenting life easier :) hehe |
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pianohacker |
ahh, okay. within the groups, they're often loosely grouped by function |
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nengard |
yes within the groups |
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pianohacker |
but alpha would probably be easier to deal with |
| 18:19 |
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pianohacker |
jk about the pressure :) |
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nengard |
heh |
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nengard |
but seriously, I can help |
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nengard |
I don't mind - but I didn't want to step on what you were doing |
| 18:21 |
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pianohacker |
right. it is a bit behind; let me do some work on it today and submit that. you've reminded me that I really need to make a guide to adding sysprefs to the editor |
| 18:24 |
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pianohacker |
That would probably go on the dev wiki, but I could make a basic docbook version if it would make your life easier |
| 18:27 |
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nengard |
whatever way is easiest for you |
| 18:27 |
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nengard |
also the tabs themselves aren't in alpha order right now - and should be |
| 18:28 |
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pianohacker |
okay, I'll check that and make sure it's correct for the version I submit today |
| 18:29 |
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pianohacker |
(It will also include the OAI-PMH -> Web Services change, as that's very easy) |
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chris |
hmmm no ricardo |
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chris |
ah well google translate to the rescue |
| 18:32 |
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* chris |
found this today |
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chris |
http://baixamar.wordpress.com/[…]ca-nas-politicas/ |
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chris |
which lead me to |
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chris |
http://www.alatechsource.org/s[…]ter/november-2009 |
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nengard |
pianohacker - you rock - and while you work I'm going to document what you have already anyway - so I can be ahead of the curve |
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pianohacker |
nengard: sounds good |
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chris_n |
interesting descriptive term... "enraged" |
| 18:37 |
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* jdavidb |
is pleased to spot two new twitter followers, and they're two of his faaaaavorite koha people. |
| 18:37 |
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wizzyrea |
what's your twitter jdavidb |
| 18:38 |
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jdavidb |
dbavousett |
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chris |
chris_n: hehe yeah, i thought the writeup mostly gets it though eh? |
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chris_n |
chris: dead on the nail head |
| 18:39 |
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pianohacker |
jdavidb: hahaha, you're a qc fan too, eh? |
| 18:39 |
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jdavidb |
Very much! |
| 18:39 |
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jdavidb |
When Jeph was here for SPX, he did a great sketch of Dora for me. :) |
| 18:40 |
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pianohacker |
oh, very nice |
| 18:40 |
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jdavidb |
I've posted in in my facebook album, pianohacker...aren't you on there? |
| 18:40 |
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pianohacker |
every once in a while, let's see... |
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jdavidb |
I laugh a *lot* at unsuckdcmetro's tweets. Someone needs a hug, real bad. |
| 18:42 |
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pianohacker |
hey, doing pull-ups on the subway isn't a bad idea! |
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nengard |
git question |
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nengard |
if i remove files from my local directory will it note that when i commit? or do I have to use a command to remove files? |
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chris_n |
git rm |
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pianohacker |
nengard: you have to use git-rm |
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chris_n |
pianohacker: those fingers are healing well I see ;-) |
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pianohacker |
hehe |
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pianohacker |
this one-handed typing is working better and better |
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nengard |
thanks chris_n and pianohacker |
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chris_n |
brb |
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chris |
bus time |
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chris |
bbiab |
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pianohacker |
cya |
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wizzyrea |
is anybody here in a library that's using the SMS capability in Koha |
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schuster |
Are there any CODE4LIB folks online right now? Couple of questions... |
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pianohacker |
schuster: I think all of the members are idling at the moment, but I might be able to help |
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schuster |
I've never been, but understand they CAP attendance? |
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jdavidb |
I believe that's correct schuster, but it's not as nefarious as it sounds. They deliberately choose small venues. |
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schuster |
So its first come you get in type stuff. |
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jdavidb |
As I understand it, yes. |
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schuster |
Ah.... |
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nengard |
pianohacker - another edit for you |
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nengard |
on the catloging preferences |
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nengard |
change the spelling of the title from Cataloguing to Cataloging |
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nengard |
schuster yes - that is the case - small venues so limits on the number of people |
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pianohacker |
nengard: ahh, thank you for catching that, I've been britrotted by the usage of cataloguing in the code |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
no prob |
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nengard |
question for everyone - why are we using OSt as the default MARC Org code? Should we try to get one for Koha - or use something fake instead of a real code for a library in Ohio? |
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nengard |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/organi[…]ns/org-search.php |
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richard |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
heya richard |
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richard |
hi wizzyrea |
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chris |
back |
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richard |
wb chris |
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chris_n |
nengard: this might be something we could do after fixing our foundational woes |
| 19:52 |
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nengard |
that makes sense |
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chris_n |
nengard: it would be nice to have a syspref for libraries to enter their own org code if they have one and otherwise default to the koha foundation code |
| 19:53 |
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chris |
presumably each library should have thei own |
| 19:53 |
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chris |
and yes it is a syspref |
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chris_n |
nothing like re-inventing the wheel :-P |
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* chris |
finds |
| 19:53 |
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nengard |
chris - but if the library doesn't use MARC why have a code? |
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chris |
MARCOrgCode |
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chris |
they have to use MARC with koha currently |
| 19:54 |
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nengard |
I know that - that's what I'm talking about - but they don't have to register for a code |
| 19:54 |
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nengard |
:) |
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chris |
there is no way round it, much to my chagrin |
| 19:54 |
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nengard |
which means they're using the one for a library that isn't theirs |
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chris |
yeah, i dont think that actually matters |
| 19:55 |
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nengard |
it does if they allow for their records to be downloaded by others |
| 19:55 |
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nengard |
then another library might download it and have that code attached - anyway - it shouldn't be a code for a real library by default in my opinion |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
in that case they should register for one |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
id leave it blank by default |
| 19:56 |
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* chris_n |
applies for an org code for the library here |
| 19:56 |
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chris |
but i dont really care :) |
| 19:56 |
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chris_n |
nengard: thanks for bringing this up |
| 19:56 |
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nengard |
chris - as a cataloger I care :) hehe |
| 19:56 |
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chris |
whatever value is in there is going to be wrong |
| 19:57 |
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chris |
unless it is actually the library's one |
| 19:57 |
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nengard |
true |
| 19:57 |
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chris_n |
catch 22 |
| 19:57 |
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chris |
so blank is probably best |
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nengard |
k - then we need to change another setting too - that requires that that field be filled in |
| 19:57 |
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chris_n |
maybe a link in the syspref description to the code request form? |
| 19:58 |
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nengard |
chris_n - pianohacker did that :) |
| 19:58 |
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nengard |
in his new sys prefs developments |
| 19:58 |
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chris_n |
cool |
| 19:59 |
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chris_n |
chris: is there a chinese translation/usage of koha? |
| 19:59 |
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chris |
yes |
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chris |
there is a huge koha-taiwan group |
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chris |
and quite a few mainland ones also |
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* chris_n |
reads a request on the list |
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chris |
http://groups.google.com/group/kohataiwan |
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chris_n |
yup |
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chris_n |
google knows... :-) |
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chris_n |
kind of scary actually |
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chris |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
ok question about SMS + koha |
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schuster |
You may ask but may not find... ;( |
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wizzyrea |
we are toying with the idea of letting patrons use their phone email address as their SMS info |
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wizzyrea |
but I think that means that any notices sent to the SMS email addresses will be the same as the regular notices |
| 20:43 |
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schuster |
There was some note someplace about needing an SMS "driver" or something along those lines... |
| 20:43 |
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chris |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I think you can get around that if you are using it as email |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
as in, not the native SMS driver |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
BUT |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm thinking about these notices |
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wizzyrea |
who wants to get 3 texts saying 'you have a hold' |
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wizzyrea |
So. |
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ricardo |
Hi all (again) |
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pianohacker |
hi, ricardo |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Hi Jesse |
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pianohacker |
I think chris was looking for you earlier |
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pianohacker |
how are you? |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Chris was looking for me? Why? |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: not sure |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: I'm well, but I need a long vacation... And no chance to take days off in sight (although I still have *lots* of holiday days to use) |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: busy with work? |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: You bet! |
| 21:30 |
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pianohacker |
where exactly do you work? |
| 21:30 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you" ;-) |
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pianohacker |
oh my. "dias-marques, ricardo dias-marques", eh? |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: I'm a public/civil servant, in Portugal |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: LOL! |
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pianohacker |
right, in portugal. what does the government have you doing? |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: http://www.inst-informatica.pt[…]rsion?language=en |
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pastebot |
"hdl" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "data in @next_items" (58 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/19 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Although, you may recognize more easily http://www.inst-informatica.pt[…]koha/opac-main.pl ;-) |
| 21:33 |
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pianohacker |
Ah, your agency is in the government. That page manages to say a lot but communicate very little about what the agency actually does ;) |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: LOL! |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: It does several things... None of them are secret (that I know of) but they are listed in the site only in the Portuguese area of the web site |
| 21:35 |
|
* chris_n2 |
marvels at pianohacker's insight into the uselessness of government disinformation ;-) |
| 21:35 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: LOL! |
| 21:35 |
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pianohacker |
a quick scan seems to indicate that you are essentially the it and recordkeeping services for the government |
| 21:36 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: I work at a public library, so I can't really talk, but... |
| 21:36 |
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chris_n2 |
nice looking site ricardo |
| 21:36 |
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pianohacker |
it is purty |
| 21:36 |
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chris_n2 |
lol pianohacker |
| 21:36 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Well, I suppose you say "you" = meaning "The Institute", and not me... I work a lot, but not THAT hard :) |
| 21:37 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: Wasn't done by me, but by some colleagues of mine... and it's Plone powered! :) |
| 21:37 |
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chris_n2 |
ok, well feel free to pass it along :-) |
| 21:38 |
|
* chris_n2 |
hears food calling |
| 21:38 |
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pianohacker |
enjoy your meal, good sir |
| 21:38 |
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chris_n2 |
and, of course, must obey |
| 21:39 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: LOL |
| 21:40 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: for someone buried under work, you're in a bubbly mood |
| 21:41 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Well... when you have to work in several projects at the same time, getting late in some of them becomes inevitable... So, you do your best and try to keep a good mood, I guess |
| 21:41 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: yeah, I'm familiar with that coping mechanism from both school and work... |
| 21:42 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Right! |
| 21:42 |
|
pianohacker |
gotta stay cheerful, or you'll end up on top of a clock tower clutching a sniper rifle and cackling madly |
| 21:43 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: LOL! True |
| 21:44 |
|
ricardo |
Hmmm.... |
| 21:45 |
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pianohacker |
¿Qué pasa? |
| 21:45 |
|
ricardo |
Many "File does not exist" errors in this Virtual Machine (in the "koha-error_log" |
| 21:45 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: That's Spanish... but OK ;-) |
| 21:46 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: actually, that leads me to a question from our conversation yesterday; do you encounter spanish much in portugal, and do you speak it? |
| 21:46 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: I understand Spanish... I may speak "Portunhol" (similar to "Spanglish"), but that's not a real language :) |
| 21:47 |
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pianohacker |
ahhh, okay |
| 21:47 |
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pianohacker |
cool, good to know. |
| 21:47 |
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ricardo |
:) |
| 21:47 |
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pianohacker |
do some of those errors contain itemtypeimg? |
| 21:48 |
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pianohacker |
there's a weird bug with itemtype images |
| 21:48 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Nope |
| 21:48 |
|
ricardo |
kohaclone/koha-tmpl/container |
| 21:48 |
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ricardo |
kohaclone/koha-tmpl/menu |
| 21:48 |
|
ricardo |
kohaclone/koha-tmpl/utilities |
| 21:48 |
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ricardo |
kohaclone/koha-tmpl/button |
| 21:48 |
|
ricardo |
That's it... |
| 21:48 |
|
ricardo |
Should these files exist? |
| 21:49 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: not to my knowledge, looking for similar errors in my library's install |
| 21:49 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: OK, thanks :) |
| 21:50 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Try to enter the "System Preferences" area and see if you get these errors, please |
| 21:51 |
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pianohacker |
haven't checked system preferences yet, but I am getting a lot of harmless errors like this: File does not exist: /home/jakarta/projects/koha3-production/koha-tmpl/koha-tmpl, referer: http://staff.jcfl/cgi-bin/koha[…]rd&importid=88321 |
| 21:51 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Right... That kind |
| 21:53 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: loading up the sysprefs area doesn't generate any errors on my bleeding-edge install |
| 21:53 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: For "3.0.x" or "master"? |
| 21:53 |
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pianohacker |
master |
| 21:53 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: OK. I'm on "3.0.x". That may explain it |
| 21:54 |
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pianohacker |
could be some fixed bug |
| 21:54 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Perhaps... I'll try to update this |
| 21:55 |
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ricardo |
OK... What's that command to compare a "working copy" file with HEAD again... |
| 21:55 |
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pianohacker |
git diff master <filename>, I believe |
| 21:55 |
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pianohacker |
replacing master with whatever base you want to use |
| 21:56 |
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| 21:56 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Yep, you're right. Thanks :) |
| 21:56 |
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| 21:59 |
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ricardo |
Ouch! |
| 21:59 |
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pianohacker |
? |
| 21:59 |
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ricardo |
"In the radio: the temperature may drop 10º C, here in Portugal, during this week" |
| 21:59 |
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pianohacker |
wow, that's quite a drop |
| 21:59 |
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ricardo |
Yep! |
| 22:02 |
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| 22:06 |
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ricardo |
Running "./install-code.pl pt-PT" |
| 22:07 |
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pianohacker |
please don't paste the output! :) |
| 22:08 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: LOL! |
| 22:08 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: "Touché!" ;-) |
| 22:09 |
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ricardo |
Here's the output: |
| 22:09 |
|
ricardo |
"The install seems to be successful." |
| 22:09 |
|
ricardo |
;-) |
| 22:09 |
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pianohacker |
well then! |
| 22:09 |
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ricardo |
Let's see... |
| 22:10 |
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| 22:11 |
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ricardo |
Everything is the same... I'll run "perl Makefile.PL; make test; make install" again |
| 22:21 |
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ricardo |
Running "make test". Now pasting the output of this would be fun ... and long! ;-) |
| 22:24 |
|
* chris_n2 |
tinkers with koha on win32 with the latest Strawberry rc |
| 22:25 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: Is it working well? |
| 22:27 |
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chris_n2 |
phone |
| 22:32 |
|
ricardo |
Eeek! |
| 22:32 |
|
ricardo |
I have to rebuild the MySQL database of this install |
| 22:37 |
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pianohacker |
What happened? |
| 22:38 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: An almost database, in this case... This is an old VM (untouched for a long time), so it may be some old problem that I don't remember |
| 22:39 |
|
ricardo |
almost *empty* database, I mean |
| 22:39 |
|
ricardo |
What's the best way to make the Web installer run again? |
| 22:40 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: change the Version system preference |
| 22:43 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: To what value? |
| 22:43 |
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pianohacker |
ricardo: depends, where do you need to rebuild it from? |
| 22:44 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Well, this is for 3.0.x |
| 22:44 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Right now, the "Version" system preference, in the database, reads " 3.0004018" |
| 22:45 |
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ricardo |
I only have 3 rows in the "systempreferences" table actually |
| 22:45 |
|
ricardo |
"FrameworksLoaded", "marcflavour" and "Version" |
| 22:45 |
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pianohacker |
ahh, something is very screwed up |
| 22:45 |
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pianohacker |
how'd that happen? |
| 22:45 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Nah.... I would just point to: |
| 22:46 |
|
ricardo |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAFU |
| 22:46 |
|
ricardo |
;-) |
| 22:46 |
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pianohacker |
right then? |
| 22:47 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: Not sure... Some mix-up between a "kohamaster" and a "koha30x" database in this git setup? Rest assured that I treat my production machines better than this, eheh |
| 22:48 |
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| 22:50 |
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ricardo |
pianohacker: I'll try to run "perl Makefile.PL" without pointing to a previous install, and see how this goes |
| 22:51 |
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chris_n2 |
ricardo: good... so far |
| 22:52 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: I assume you're talking about "Koha on Windows". OK :) |
| 22:52 |
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chris_n2 |
right |
| 22:52 |
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chris_n2 |
pre-reqs are going flawless so far... |
| 22:52 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: Nice" |
| 23:07 |
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chris_n2 |
ok, the party is over... stuff is refusing to install :-S |
| 23:08 |
|
* chris_n2 |
gets out his bigger hammer |
| 23:08 |
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* ricardo |
ducks! |
| 23:08 |
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ricardo |
OK... Something is *really really* wrong here |
| 23:08 |
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ricardo |
Even with an empty database... I wonder if the problem is with the SQL test files that I have in this setuo |
| 23:08 |
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ricardo |
setup |
| 23:19 |
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ricardo |
OK, yeah... that was it. |
| 23:20 |
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ricardo |
The problem was that I had some SQL test files (for a future version of the Portuguese translation) under: |
| 23:20 |
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ricardo |
kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/pt-PT/marcflavour/unimarc/mandatory/ |
| 23:20 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: same errors as the last time you tried? |
| 23:20 |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: no, this is an issue with Barcode::Code128 |
| 23:21 |
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ricardo |
...and I selected "pt-PT" in the Installer... because I don't have yet INSERTs for the "systempreferences" table (for Portuguese), this had all kinds of nasty effects |
| 23:21 |
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chris_n2 |
I'm not sure it is a *real* issue |
| 23:21 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: I think Galen said it's safe to force install Barcode::Code128 |
| 23:22 |
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chris_n2 |
it seems that the binary in the graphic generated by GD does not match that in the test file |
| 23:22 |
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chris_n2 |
I tend to think it is more of a problem with the test than a bug proper |
| 23:22 |
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chris_n2 |
ricardo: seems I remember that too |
| 23:23 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: I think I had to force install myself on linux |
| 23:23 |
|
ricardo |
#28369: PNG image generated by test looks the same but is not identical |
| 23:23 |
|
ricardo |
http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/[…]lay.html?id=28369 |
| 23:24 |
|
ricardo |
I even "chimed in" for that Barcode::Code128 bug: |
| 23:24 |
|
ricardo |
http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/[…]=28369#txn-531884 |
| 23:24 |
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chris_n2 |
are you the same ricardo? |
| 23:24 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: Yep |
| 23:24 |
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chris_n2 |
ricardo++ |
| 23:24 |
|
ricardo |
LOL |
| 23:24 |
|
ricardo |
Thanks :) |
| 23:25 |
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chris_n2 |
and we're off again |
| 23:27 |
|
ricardo |
I have a greater victory for "HTTP::OAI" where I exchanged e-mails with Tim Brody and he changed that module so that it didn't fail tests (in Koha installs, it would usually fail because "we" change the ParserDetais.ini file) |
| 23:27 |
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chris_n2 |
nice |
| 23:27 |
|
ricardo |
:) |
| 23:28 |
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chris_n2 |
I've got some improvements submitted for PDF::Reuse which should show up in the next release near the end of Oct |
| 23:28 |
|
ricardo |
... and if you think some Koha code is hard to read, you should try to read "HTTP::OAI" code: it uses "recursion" and "reflection" extensively :-S |
| 23:28 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2++ |
| 23:28 |
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chris_n2 |
yuk |
| 23:29 |
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chris_n2 |
obfuscation is intriguing at times, but mostly a pain |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
Tim Brody has a PhD... and he belongs to the Research Staff of the "School of Electronics and Computer Science" of the "University of Southampton" in the UK. So, I guess that his code look simple to him... |
| 23:30 |
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chris_n2 |
heh |
| 23:32 |
|
ricardo |
For instance |
| 23:32 |
|
ricardo |
http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]/OAI/Harvester.pm |
| 23:32 |
|
ricardo |
Read "sub _oai" |
| 23:33 |
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pianohacker |
wow, that's a lot of perl shortcuts |
| 23:33 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: yep |
| 23:33 |
|
ricardo |
$r->record(@{$self->{_records}->{$args{metadataPrefix}}}); |
| 23:34 |
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pianohacker |
bleh, though things like that are the fault of perl's horribly bass-ackwards data structures |
| 23:34 |
|
ricardo |
LOL |
| 23:35 |
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chris_n2 |
interesting |
| 23:36 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: It is... He uses blocks with "$verb" to create ... err... methods at runtime... That probably has a name in Perl but I don't know it / remember |
| 23:36 |
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chris_n2 |
I wonder if there is really any gain in net speed vs extrapolating the code into a bit more readable form? |
| 23:36 |
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chris |
no |
| 23:37 |
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ricardo |
chris: He's alive! |
| 23:37 |
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chris_n2 |
heh |
| 23:37 |
|
ricardo |
I like these 2 lines even better: |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
the interpreter will execute them both the same |
| 23:37 |
|
ricardo |
} elsif( $verb eq 'ListIdentifiers' ) { |
| 23:37 |
|
ricardo |
$r->identifier(map { $_->header } @{$self->{_records}->{$args{metadataPrefix}}}) |
| 23:37 |
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chris_n2 |
no ricardo, he comes up for air occasionally |
| 23:37 |
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chris |
the only reasno for doing stuff like that is if you are playing perl golf |
| 23:37 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: I've had to resist the urge to write 1 line of unreadable code vs. 4 lines of readable code before |
| 23:37 |
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ricardo |
chris: LOL! |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
its short term gain vs months of long term pain |
| 23:37 |
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chris_n2 |
I took the ultra readable route in the labels rewrite |
| 23:38 |
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ricardo |
chris: *nod* |
| 23:38 |
|
chris |
chris_n2++ |
| 23:38 |
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pianohacker |
I'm hoping some of the shortcuts I took in the new sysprefs editor don't make it too unreadable :) |
| 23:38 |
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ricardo |
I really prefer "readable"... I'll have to debug stuff months from now, and the simpler, the better... Not to mention I think my IQ is decreasing as years go by... |
| 23:39 |
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chris_n2 |
ricardo: same problem here ;-) |
| 23:39 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: eheh |
| 23:39 |
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chris |
http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2[…]quote_of_the_day/ |
| 23:40 |
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pianohacker |
ahaha, very true |
| 23:40 |
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chris_n2 |
chris: LOL! |
| 23:40 |
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ricardo |
chris: Kernighan++ ;-) |
| 23:41 |
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ricardo |
chris: pianohacker said you wanted to talk with me? |
| 23:42 |
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chris |
ah was about |
| 23:43 |
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chris |
http://baixamar.wordpress.com/[…]ca-nas-politicas/ |
| 23:43 |
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ricardo |
"Baixamar"? heh |
| 23:43 |
|
ricardo |
OK. Let me read that |
| 23:44 |
|
ricardo |
OK, read... |
| 23:44 |
|
ricardo |
I read Portuguese fluently! ;-) |
| 23:44 |
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chris |
hehe |
| 23:44 |
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chris |
its just about the LEK fork eh? |
| 23:46 |
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ricardo |
chris: It is... It says that's an example similar to others that has an enterprise version, targeted to the corporate market, with "enriched" software ... and also has a "less evolved" version in the hands of the community. The article compares it to Fedora from Redhat, openSUSE from Novell and Zimbra from Yahoo |
| 23:47 |
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ricardo |
Let me try a real-time translation (of my own) for the next paragraph |
| 23:47 |
|
chris |
right, i think those are false comparisons, but i guess they are similair |
| 23:47 |
|
chris |
Redhat didnt fork the kernel |
| 23:48 |
|
ricardo |
"The fracture between LibLime and other companies that participate in Koha's development iis served. Companies and individuals propose to keep the development by creating a foundation so that the application remains in the hands of the community like has happened in other projects like Mozilla or OpenOffice" |
| 23:49 |
|
ricardo |
Where's Google Translate when you need it... Let me see if their translation is good |
| 23:49 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:50 |
|
ricardo |
http://translate.google.com/tr[…]n&history_state0= |
| 23:50 |
|
ricardo |
"perky for themselves"?! |
| 23:50 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 23:50 |
|
ricardo |
That is "developed by themselves" |
| 23:50 |
|
chris |
cool thanks |
| 23:50 |
|
ricardo |
The 2nd paragraph is perfectly translated (Google++) |
| 23:51 |
|
ricardo |
3rd paragraph is also almost perfect, as well |
| 23:52 |
|
ricardo |
4th paragraph also perfect |
| 23:52 |
|
ricardo |
And I understand perky... The article used the world "desenvolta" instead of "desenvolvida". I bet if the article used "desenvolvida" Google Translate would also "nail that one" |
| 23:53 |
|
ricardo |
s/world/word |
| 23:55 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I also have a question for you. Are you still here? |
| 23:55 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 23:55 |
|
chris_n2 |
it would appear that at times cpan forgets to set PERL5LIB correctly.... at least in Strawberry and with chained dep installs |
| 23:55 |
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chris_n2 |
of course it could have to do with the different syntax for setting env vars on win32 |
| 23:55 |
|
ricardo |
chris: How does Koha deal if there's a PO translation for a Language but does NOT have SQL files for that language? |
| 23:56 |
|
ricardo |
chris_n2: Could be |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
it uses the english sql instead |
| 23:56 |
|
ricardo |
chris: OK. Fair enough... What does it do? Sees if there's a directory "installer/data/mysql/pt-PT" and, if not, uses English SQL? |
| 23:56 |
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chris |
or at least it should, they are only used during the install process |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 23:58 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I saw that *really bad things* happen if I have some SQL files under ""installer/data/mysql/pt-PT" (for UNIMARC frameworks) but do NOT have SQL file(s) for the "systempreferences" table |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 23:58 |
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chris |
you need to have them all or none |
| 23:58 |
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ricardo |
chris: right |
| 23:58 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker was already insulting me for having a destroyed Koha install ;-) |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:59 |
|
ricardo |
Eheh |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
you can copy the english ones in |
| 23:59 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right... |
| 23:59 |
|
chris_n2 |
so what's wrong with this picture: |
| 23:59 |
|
chris_n2 |
Warning: prerequisite Data::ICal 0.13 not found. |
| 23:59 |
|
chris_n2 |
Warning: prerequisite Date::Calc 5.4 not found. |
| 23:59 |
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pianohacker |
bah, wasn't trying to insult you |
| 23:59 |
|
chris_n2 |
Warning: prerequisite Date::ICal 1.72 not found. |
