IRC log for #koha, 2009-08-16

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04:49 chris test
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07:07 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/
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08:56 cait1 good morning #koha
09:13 chris hi cait1
09:19 cait1 cait1?
09:19 cait1 hi chris
09:25 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]heads/translation
09:25 chris that branch has your up to date .po files
09:26 chris so you could do
09:26 chris git remote add translation git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git
09:26 chris then
09:26 chris git fetch translation
09:27 chris git checkout -b translation --track translation/translation
09:28 chris and then you will be running master with the lastest versions of .po
09:34 cait1 oh
09:34 cait1 j
09:34 cait1 will try
09:35 cait1 i was about to add them manually by download from pootle
09:35 chris that works too :)
09:36 chris but i plan to keep the translation branch up to date, and galen will pull from it into master every so often also
09:37 cait1 sounds good
09:37 cait1 Im still fighting with git
09:37 cait1 but fighting with apache is worse
09:39 cait1 ok, I think those three commands worked
09:39 cait1 what do I need to do now?
09:40 chris if you look in misc/translator/po
09:40 chris the new 300200 files should be in there
09:41 cait1 ony 3000000 there
09:42 chris hmmm
09:42 chris git branch
09:42 chris what branch does it say you are on?
09:43 cait1 translation
09:43 chris and if you do
09:43 chris git log
09:43 chris what is the latest commit?
09:44 chris German translation updates?
09:44 cait1 sorry, different computer cant copy - its patrons with no checkouts report
09:44 cait1 german translation update is the first
09:44 chris weird
09:45 chris should have de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po
09:45 chris and no 3000000 one
09:45 cait1 perhaps i missed something during install? I m really new to git, but the responses to your commands looked fine
09:46 chris hmm nope what you typed looks fine
09:53 cait1 adding them manually seems to work
09:55 cait1 opac has probllems
09:57 cait1 %, d: Unknown or unsupported format specification
09:57 cait1 and one warning above that, staff is ok
09:58 chris ahh i bet there is a space in there % s instead of %s of %, instead of %s,
09:58 cait1 yes somehing like that
09:58 cait1 but dificult to find it
09:58 chris ill fix that up
09:59 cait1 ok thx chris!
09:59 cait1 the warning is in opac-opensearch.tmpl line 38
10:00 chris can you try getting it again
10:00 cait1 and it stops with an error after creating opac-sendshelf.tmpl
10:00 cait1 mom
10:02 cait1 successful, but the warning about opac-opensearch is still there
10:03 chris but it created the templates this time?
10:03 cait1 yes
10:03 chris cool
10:03 cait1 did all templates, just showed the warning while doing it
10:03 cait1 seems to be an additional <
10:05 cait1 no
10:05 chris wow!!
10:05 cait1 copy and paste is not always an good idea
10:05 cait1 :(
10:06 cait1 when switching between different computers
10:07 chris yeah always dangerous
10:14 cait1 what I wanted to really show you, when searching for Dienstoberläche I get to "GNU General Public License, version 2"
10:14 cait1 this search works in strange ways
10:17 chris yeah the pootle search is weird
10:31 cait1 ok, question about git
10:31 cait1 how to change branch back to HEAD?
10:31 cait1 or just leave it as it is?
10:32 chris git checkout master
10:32 chris gets you back
10:32 cait1 oh it tells me Im behind origin/master (58 commits)
10:35 cait1 hm I dont really understand what I do, need to read more about git :)
10:35 chris thats telling you that since you last fetched and rebased 58 changes have happened
10:38 cait1 ah I think I did git pull when I was on mywork branch
10:39 chris ah yep that would do it
10:39 chris right time for bed, got work tomorrow
10:39 chris enjoy the rest of your weekend
10:39 cait1 ok, good night chris
10:40 cait1 and thx again for everything
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12:54 munin jdavidb: jwagner was last seen in #koha 1 day, 13 hours, 22 minutes, and 1 second ago: <jwagner> Hi all, sorry, been off on another screen
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16:19 |Lupin| good evening
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16:55 |Lupin| bye all !
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20:33 richard hi
20:38 pianohacker Hello
20:48 chris morning
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21:10 chris hey nengard
21:11 chris so http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2046 you say?
21:11 munin Bug 2046: normal, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Suggestions: Title Field too small
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21:12 nengard changed my mind the comments on bug 2046 imply there may be more than a db issue
21:12 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Suggestions: Title Field too small
21:12 nengard let's do this: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2761
21:12 munin Bug 2761: major, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
21:13 chris k
21:14 chris oh yeah we can do that
21:14 nengard cool
21:14 chris so when making db changes you need to do a few things
21:14 chris the first is make the change locally and check it works
21:15 chris so in this case we would get into our koha db
21:15 chris then run
21:15 nengard by 'get into our koha db' do you mean musing mysql - or just get into the directory where we have our git branch
21:16 chris ahh sorry by using mysql
21:16 nengard no prob - if we're documenting this i want to be very very specific
21:16 nengard :)
21:17 chris so once we are in mysql we can run some sql to alter the items table
21:17 chris ill let you figure that one out :-)
21:17 nengard i forgot what i set as my username on mysql :)
21:17 chris kohaadmin probably
21:18 pianohacker nengard: Try hitting Ctrl-R, then typing in mysql -u
21:18 nengard you are right ;)
21:18 nengard okay so now i want to update the table in question
21:18 chris yep
21:19 nengard UPDATE items SET itemcallnumber ....
21:19 nengard bleh - off to read the manual - be right back :) soooo out of practice
21:19 chris hint, it starts with ALTER
21:19 nengard don't tell me ... i'll get it :)
21:23 nengard ALTER items MODIFY itemnumber varchar(255);
21:23 chris that oughta do it, at least for modern versions of mysql
21:23 chris its itemcallnumber tho
21:24 chris making itemnumber a varchar would be bad :)
21:24 nengard hehe
21:24 nengard oops
21:24 lamiette w
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21:24 chris thats why we try it locally before we send a patch ;)
21:24 nengard mysql> ALTER items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);
21:24 nengard ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255)' at line 1
21:24 chris ALTER TABLE items
21:25 nengard ahh - i thought TABLE was supposed to be the table name
21:25 chris w to you too lamiette
21:25 lamiette chris: morning getting to my ability to identify what window I am in
21:25 chris heh, monday's will do that
21:25 lamiette trying to :w irc instead of a buffer in vim
21:25 nengard ah - i forgot to pick a database first - now this i need help with
21:25 chris use koha;
21:25 nengard i've only ever used phpmyadmin :)
21:26 nengard okay
21:26 nengard change made
21:26 chris sweet
21:26 chris and koha still mostly works (it should but it never hurts to click around a bit)
21:27 chris (for something this benign checking isnt super nessecary but its a good habit to get into)
21:28 nengard clicking done
21:28 chris cool
21:28 chris so we know it works
21:29 nengard well - we know it doesn't break anything :)
21:29 chris the next step is to edit installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
21:30 chris what i would do is vim installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
21:30 nengard chris - in this instance shouldn't we also change the other tables with call numbers?
21:30 nengard biblio or biblioitems - i need to check and see where else there is a call number
21:30 chris probably not, if they are using itemlevelcallnumbers it doesnt store it elsewhere
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21:31 nengard okay
21:31 pianohacker1 is now known as pianohacker
21:32 nengard okay i'm in kohastructure.sql
21:32 chris i would type /itemcallnumber
21:32 nengard am i looking for the items table and itemcallnumber field i assume
21:32 chris that will jump you right to it
21:33 pianohacker nengard: Yes
21:33 chris ack i have a meeting in 10 mins
21:33 nengard done
21:33 chris but once you find that, you want to change the varchar(30) to varchar(255)
21:33 nengard done
21:33 chris cool
21:34 chris save and quit that file
21:34 nengard now create patch? or is there more?
21:34 nengard done
21:34 chris more
21:34 chris now we get to edit updatedatabase.pl
21:34 nengard same directory?
21:34 chris vim installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
21:34 chris yep
21:35 nengard okay found the line and changed it
21:35 nengard and saved it
21:35 nengard next
21:35 chris there is no changing
21:35 chris :)
21:35 nengard changed from 30 to 255
21:35 nengard no??
21:35 chris you cant change in updatedatabase.pl
21:35 nengard hehe
21:35 nengard bleh
21:35 chris no cos that won't get run
21:36 nengard k
21:36 nengard what do i do?
21:36 nengard sorry
21:36 nengard was rushing cause you had to go
21:36 chris ahh sweet
21:36 chris meeting pushed back to 11
21:36 nengard yippe
21:36 chris so i have an hour
21:36 nengard okay i have updatedatabase open
21:37 chris what you want do do is come down in the file to just before sub DropAllForeignKeys
21:37 chris so /sub DropAllForeignKeys
21:37 chris will jump you there
21:37 nengard k
21:37 nengard there
21:37 chris now scroll up a bit
21:38 chris there is an if block
21:38 chris and a $DBversion= 'some number';
21:38 chris before that?
21:38 nengard uh huh
21:38 chris what number is it?
21:38 nengard .041
21:38 nengard or longer 3.01.00.041
21:38 chris right
21:39 chris in that case ours will be 3.01.00.042
21:39 chris so copy that line and the line below it, and paste it after the if block
21:39 chris then change the 41 to 42
21:39 nengard confused
21:40 nengard paste after this:
21:40 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 nengard $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:40 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:40 nengard print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (added AWSPrivateKey syspref - note that if you use enhanced content from Amazon, this should be set right away.)";
21:40 nengard }
21:40 chris yes
21:40 nengard andcopy this:
21:40 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 nengard $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:40 chris just the first 2 lines
21:40 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 chris ye
21:40 chris s
21:41 chris and then change 41 to 42
21:41 nengard k
21:41 nengard done
21:41 chris now we want to add a line after the if to do our db change
21:41 nengard which is the alter line
21:41 chris so $dbh->do("That sql we tested before");
21:42 chris *nod*
21:42 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:42 chris thats it
21:42 nengard done
21:42 nengard close IF?
21:43 chris now you want the last 2 lines from above
21:43 chris the SetVersion one
21:44 chris and the print
21:44 chris then close the if
21:44 chris and we want the print to say something meaningful
21:45 chris like changing itemcallnumber to varchar(255) or something
21:45 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 chris yeah just once will do tho
21:45 nengard }
21:45 nengard ooops!!!
21:45 nengard sorry
21:45 chris :)
21:45 nengard hehe
21:46 nengard sticky fingers
21:46 chris maybe add
21:46 chris Upgrade to $DBversion done
21:46 chris to your print
21:46 chris and end it with \n
21:46 chris (before the ";)
21:46 chris \n = newline
21:46 chris other than that, looks great
21:47 chris and a trick is http://koha.pastebin.com/
21:47 chris for pasting stuff
21:47 chris (thats longer than a few lines anyway)
21:47 nengard there is no new line in the past version upgrade
21:47 chris well can you fix that while you are there :)
21:48 chris there is in 39 :)
21:48 chris and previous
21:48 nengard okay
21:48 chris cool
21:48 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:48 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:48 nengard $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:48 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:48 nengard print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (added AWSPrivateKey syspref - note that if you use enhanced content from Amazon, this should be set right away.)\n";
21:49 nengard }
21:49 nengard $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:49 nengard if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:49 nengard $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:49 nengard SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:49 nengard print " Upgrade to $DBversion done (change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.)\n";
21:49 nengard }
21:49 chris awesome
21:49 chris save and quit
21:49 nengard sone
21:49 nengard done
21:49 chris and just 1 last file to g
21:49 nengard :)
21:49 chris kohaversion.pl
21:49 chris in the base dir of your git checkout
21:50 nengard change to .042
21:50 chris you want to change the number there to be 42 too
21:50 chris *snap*
21:50 nengard done
21:50 nengard :)
21:50 chris right, that's how we make a db change
21:50 nengard so much fun :) hehe
21:50 nengard yipppppeeeeeee
21:50 nengard i'll clean this up and put it on the tutorials page
21:50 nengard and i'll submit my first db patch :)
21:51 chris now before sending a patch you always want to fetch and rebase
21:51 chris but you know that eh?
21:51 nengard i always do that before creating my patch
21:51 nengard why after?
21:51 chris sorry before creating
21:51 nengard k
21:51 nengard :)
21:52 nengard i meant before i start writing my changes i pulled it
21:52 nengard you did say before
21:52 chris yep, then just before i do my patch
21:52 chris i fetch and rebase again
21:52 chris in case someone else has sent and had one accepted in the meantime
21:52 chris then create patch
21:52 chris and send
21:52 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today
21:53 chris dunno if its easier to take from there
21:53 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]a;date=2009-08-16 even
21:53 nengard okay i'm confused - this screen for committing is diff than the one i'm used to seeing
21:53 nengard usually i hit esc and then type ZZ
21:54 nengard but that's not working
21:54 chris it will be vim
21:54 chris so just edit it as if it was vim
21:54 chris save and quit
21:54 nengard never used vim :)
21:54 chris its vi improved
21:54 nengard nope
21:54 nengard it's typing my :wq
21:55 chris did you hit esc ?
21:55 nengard yes
21:55 chris ok, control-z
21:55 nengard esc not working - at the buttom it says ^0 WRITEOUT
21:55 chris to background it
21:55 nengard no - what the heck is this
21:55 nengard i can't stop it from typing
21:55 chris ctrl-c ?
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21:56 nengard that's cursor position
21:56 nengard according tot he bottom
21:56 nengard didn't do anything
21:56 chris ctrl-x  ?
21:56 chris ahh you are in nano
21:57 nengard that goe me out
21:57 chris i hate nano
21:57 chris ok
21:57 nengard what the hell is nano???
21:57 nengard and how did i get in there?
21:57 chris sudo apt-get remove nano
21:57 chris its a copy of pico .. which used to come with pine, lightweight editor
21:58 chris pine was my first email client
21:58 chris back in the day
21:58 nengard okay
21:58 chris ok try your commit again
21:58 nengard hmm
21:58 nengard it seems to have created my patch
21:58 chris and you should be in vi
21:58 nengard but i'm not sure where it went
21:59 nengard cause now it says there is nothing to commit
21:59 chris ahh created your commit you mean?
21:59 nengard yes
21:59 nengard sorry
21:59 nengard or not
21:59 nengard i did status and there isn't anything there
21:59 nengard .....
21:59 chris git commit --amend
21:59 chris yeah if you committed there wont be
21:59 nengard okay scary blue screen with my commit info
22:00 nengard this is not vim
22:00 nengard or vi
22:00 chris ctrl-c
22:00 nengard that got me out
22:00 chris export EDITOR=vi
22:00 chris git commit --amend
22:00 nengard THANK YOU
22:00 nengard this I know :)
22:01 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ export EDITOR=vi
22:01 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ git commit --amend
22:01 nengard Created commit 2e9b904: BUG 2761 Fix max length of itemcallnumber to 255
22:01 nengard 3 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
22:01 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$
22:01 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2761 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
22:01 chris sweet
22:01 chris and you are ready to create and send your patch
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22:03 nengard sent :)
22:03 nengard i will not edit this transcript for others to benefit from
22:04 chris :)
22:06 nengard patch submitted and attached to bug: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2761
22:06 munin Bug 2761: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
22:07 chris coolio
22:15 nengard hey gmcharlt put his tutorial on his blog
22:15 nengard can i put mine natively on the wiki?
22:16 chris sure you can
22:17 nengard k
22:17 nengard doing that
22:17 nengard don't htink people on my blog care too much :)
22:18 nengard can we do colored font on the wiki?
22:19 chris pass
22:19 nengard hehe
22:19 nengard okay will edit tutorial more than gmcharlt did :)
22:23 chris :)
22:25 chris your email just hit the list
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22:40 nengard chris what's the syntax to have the wiki not turn all words with multi caps into links?
22:40 nengard http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:dbupdatetutorial
22:41 chris no idea
22:41 nengard hehe
22:41 nengard k
22:41 nengard how about how do i make my link look right?
22:41 nengard http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ntation:tutorials
22:41 nengard i want it to have the title of the page and i want the page under tutorials
22:41 nengard not under documentation
22:42 chris right you have to change the link to it
22:42 chris ill fix the title
22:42 nengard i thought just by putting it on tutorials it would use that page as the parent
22:43 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:dbupdatetutorial
22:43 chris nope
22:43 chris fixed the title 2 secs
22:46 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:dbupdatetutorial
22:49 nengard thanks
22:49 chris ok meeting time
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23:03 nengard hey does anyone know where the koha news is stored? it's not in the db like i thought
23:03 nengard does it create a text file?
23:10 nengard nevermind - found it - it is in the db
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23:20 nengard chris - thought of something we didn't cover what if you don't want to change the structure of a table - but the data in it - the you wouldn't have to edit kohastructure.sql - right?
23:20 nengard is there something you do have to edit?
23:24 nengard example - for this: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2611
23:25 munin Bug 2611: normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Language Issue: Patron Permissions
23:25 nengard i looked at the contents of the permissions table but I don't see the permissions I see when I got to edit a patron's permissions
23:26 nengard but once I figure out which table - I want to edit the text in the table, not the table itself
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12:22 CGI639 any one could help me  in Circulation and fines rules koha 3.0.3
12:27 gmcharlt CGI639: what's up?
15:03 cait @wunder konstanz
15:03 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 29.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on August 15, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
15:12 |Lupin| hi again :)
15:34 |Lupin| hi pianohacker,hi hdl_laptop
15:35 pianohacker hi
15:41 hdl_laptop hi |Lupin|
17:03 |Lupin| bye all
17:34 |Lupin| hi again, folks
17:34 pianohacker Hello
17:50 |Lupin| time to leave, happy day / night all !
18:33 brendan morning #koha
18:40 pianohacker Good morning
18:41 pianohacker Still safe from the fire?
18:58 brendan ha -- yeah -- just have poor air quality
18:58 brendan pianohacker -- you have anymore done on your new sys-pref editor?
18:59 brendan I'd be interested in taking a sneak peak -- if you have one available
18:59 pianohacker Not beyond what's on github
18:59 pianohacker Hmm. Not available on a public demo at the moment
18:59 brendan cool
18:59 pianohacker Do you have the URL?
18:59 brendan I've got it somewhere
19:00 brendan was looking more for a public demo at the moment
19:01 brendan @wunder 93117
19:01 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.8°C (12:00 PM PDT on August 15, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
19:02 brendan thought the condition would pop up as smoke!
19:02 brendan munin you should report smokey
19:02 munin brendan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:04 pianohacker brendan: Source at http://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/prefs/; sometime tomorrow or monday I could give you a demo while my computer at home is on
19:05 chris brendan: http://librarian.koha.workbuff[…]nces.pl?tab=admin
19:05 brendan cool I'll pul up a clone sometime later today
19:05 brendan ah chris -- you're excellent
19:05 pianohacker Ahh, cool. Didn't know if you still had that, up, thanks chris
19:05 chris well it changes, it was my translation branch
19:06 chris but i just checked out the prefs branch :)
19:09 pianohacker brendan: I think you were looking into a VPS service a while back. Did you have any luck? Might well have to buy some for  things like this
19:11 brendan :)  -- using the mosso cloud at the moment
19:11 brendan 1.5 cents an hour
19:12 brendan or just some internal virtual machines in my office
19:12 brendan but I agree -- I need to get something more public --
19:18 pianohacker Hmm. Rackspace is jumping on the cloud marketing bandwagon pretty thoroughly
19:18 pianohacker brendan: You or ByWater have anything interesting going on in the Koha realm?
19:19 brendan just some small libraries migrating at the moment - but hoping to get to a 'did you mean' added for the OPAC
19:20 pianohacker If you can get something better than the old hoary kohaspsuggest, you will make a lot of librarians very happy
19:20 brendan funding issues at the moment -- but hopefully a few libraries come through and then we'll get to that
19:20 pianohacker Yeah
19:21 brendan I agree...  current thoughts were something similar... but I agree that was funky
19:21 brendan so if that comes a reality -- I'm open for suggestions -- currently doing some research on how we want to tackle that
19:21 pianohacker The overall process wasn't too horrible, but the requirement for a separate, poorly documented database was kind of odd
19:22 brendan agreed -- would be nicer to not have a separate database.
19:23 brendan so stalled on that for the moment -- but hopefully that picks up again soon -- I think the main librarian interested in that is on vacation for three weeks
19:23 pianohacker Good luck. Can't wait to see it :)
19:23 brendan :)
19:55 pianohacker bye for now
04:49 chris test
07:07 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/
08:57 cait1 good morning #koha
09:13 chris hi cait1
09:20 cait1 cait1?
09:20 cait1 hi chris
09:26 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]heads/translation
09:26 chris that branch has your up to date .po files
09:26 chris so you could do
09:27 chris git remote add translation git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git
09:27 chris then
09:27 chris git fetch translation
09:28 chris git checkout -b translation --track translation/translation
09:29 chris and then you will be running master with the lastest versions of .po
09:34 cait1 oh
09:35 cait1 j
09:35 cait1 will try
09:35 cait1 i was about to add them manually by download from pootle
09:36 chris that works too :)
09:37 chris but i plan to keep the translation branch up to date, and galen will pull from it into master every so often also
09:37 cait1 sounds good
09:37 cait1 Im still fighting with git
09:37 cait1 but fighting with apache is worse
09:40 cait1 ok, I think those three commands worked
09:40 cait1 what do I need to do now?
09:41 chris if you look in misc/translator/po
09:41 chris the new 300200 files should be in there
09:42 cait1 ony 3000000 there
09:42 chris hmmm
09:42 chris git branch
09:42 chris what branch does it say you are on?
09:44 cait1 translation
09:44 chris and if you do
09:44 chris git log
09:44 chris what is the latest commit?
09:44 chris German translation updates?
09:44 cait1 sorry, different computer cant copy - its patrons with no checkouts report
09:45 cait1 german translation update is the first
09:45 chris weird
09:45 chris should have de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po
09:45 chris and no 3000000 one
09:46 cait1 perhaps i missed something during install? I m really new to git, but the responses to your commands looked fine
09:47 chris hmm nope what you typed looks fine
09:54 cait1 adding them manually seems to work
09:55 cait1 opac has probllems
09:57 cait1 %, d: Unknown or unsupported format specification
09:58 cait1 and one warning above that, staff is ok
09:59 chris ahh i bet there is a space in there % s instead of %s of %, instead of %s,
09:59 cait1 yes somehing like that
09:59 cait1 but dificult to find it
09:59 chris ill fix that up
09:59 cait1 ok thx chris!
10:00 cait1 the warning is in opac-opensearch.tmpl line 38
10:00 chris can you try getting it again
10:00 cait1 and it stops with an error after creating opac-sendshelf.tmpl
10:01 cait1 mom
10:02 cait1 successful, but the warning about opac-opensearch is still there
10:03 chris but it created the templates this time?
10:03 cait1 yes
10:03 chris cool
10:04 cait1 did all templates, just showed the warning while doing it
10:04 cait1 seems to be an additional <
10:06 chris wow!!
10:06 cait1 copy and paste is not always an good idea
10:06 cait1 :(
10:06 cait1 when switching between different computers
10:08 chris yeah always dangerous
10:15 cait1 what I wanted to really show you, when searching for Dienstoberläche I get to "GNU General Public License, version 2"
10:15 cait1 this search works in strange ways
10:17 chris yeah the pootle search is weird
10:31 cait1 ok, question about git
10:32 cait1 how to change branch back to HEAD?
10:32 cait1 or just leave it as it is?
10:32 chris git checkout master
10:32 chris gets you back
10:33 cait1 oh it tells me Im behind origin/master (58 commits)
10:35 cait1 hm I dont really understand what I do, need to read more about git :)
10:36 chris thats telling you that since you last fetched and rebased 58 changes have happened
10:38 cait1 ah I think I did git pull when I was on mywork branch
10:39 chris ah yep that would do it
10:39 chris right time for bed, got work tomorrow
10:39 chris enjoy the rest of your weekend
10:39 cait1 ok, good night chris
10:40 cait1 and thx again for everything

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