Time  Nick        Message
04:49 chris       test
07:07 chris       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/
08:56 cait1       good morning #koha
09:13 chris       hi cait1
09:19 cait1       cait1?
09:19 cait1       hi chris
09:25 chris       http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/translation
09:25 chris       that branch has your up to date .po files
09:26 chris       so you could do
09:26 chris       git remote add translation git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git
09:26 chris       then
09:26 chris       git fetch translation
09:27 chris       git checkout -b translation --track translation/translation
09:28 chris       and then you will be running master with the lastest versions of .po
09:34 cait1       oh
09:34 cait1       j
09:34 cait1       will try
09:35 cait1       i was about to add them manually by download from pootle
09:35 chris       that works too :)
09:36 chris       but i plan to keep the translation branch up to date, and galen will pull from it into master every so often also
09:37 cait1       sounds good
09:37 cait1       Im still fighting with git
09:37 cait1       but fighting with apache is worse
09:39 cait1       ok, I think those three commands worked
09:39 cait1       what do I need to do now?
09:40 chris       if you look in misc/translator/po
09:40 chris       the new 300200 files should be in there
09:41 cait1       ony 3000000 there
09:42 chris       hmmm
09:42 chris       git branch
09:42 chris       what branch does it say you are on?
09:43 cait1       translation
09:43 chris       and if you do
09:43 chris       git log
09:43 chris       what is the latest commit?
09:44 chris       German translation updates?
09:44 cait1       sorry, different computer cant copy - its patrons with no checkouts report
09:44 cait1       german translation update is the first
09:44 chris       weird
09:45 chris       should have de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po
09:45 chris       and no 3000000 one
09:45 cait1       perhaps i missed something during install? I m really new to git, but the responses to your commands looked fine
09:46 chris       hmm nope what you typed looks fine
09:53 cait1       adding them manually seems to work
09:55 cait1       opac has probllems
09:57 cait1       %, d: Unknown or unsupported format specification
09:57 cait1       and one warning above that, staff is ok
09:58 chris       ahh i bet there is a space in there % s instead of %s of %, instead of %s,
09:58 cait1       yes somehing like that
09:58 cait1       but dificult to find it
09:58 chris       ill fix that up
09:59 cait1       ok thx chris!
09:59 cait1       the warning is in opac-opensearch.tmpl line 38
10:00 chris       can you try getting it again
10:00 cait1       and it stops with an error after creating opac-sendshelf.tmpl
10:00 cait1       mom
10:02 cait1       successful, but the warning about opac-opensearch is still there
10:03 chris       but it created the templates this time?
10:03 cait1       yes
10:03 chris       cool
10:03 cait1       did all templates, just showed the warning while doing it
10:03 cait1       seems to be an additional <
10:05 cait1       no
10:05 chris       wow!!
10:05 cait1       copy and paste is not always an good idea
10:05 cait1       :(
10:06 cait1       when switching between different computers
10:07 chris       yeah always dangerous
10:14 cait1       what I wanted to really show you, when searching for Dienstoberläche I get to "GNU General Public License, version 2"
10:14 cait1       this search works in strange ways
10:17 chris       yeah the pootle search is weird
10:31 cait1       ok, question about git
10:31 cait1       how to change branch back to HEAD?
10:31 cait1       or just leave it as it is?
10:32 chris       git checkout master
10:32 chris       gets you back
10:32 cait1       oh it tells me Im behind origin/master (58 commits)
10:35 cait1       hm I dont really understand what I do, need to read more about git :)
10:35 chris       thats telling you that since you last fetched and rebased 58 changes have happened
10:38 cait1       ah I think I did git pull when I was on mywork branch
10:39 chris       ah yep that would do it
10:39 chris       right time for bed, got work tomorrow
10:39 chris       enjoy the rest of your weekend
10:39 cait1       ok, good night chris
10:40 cait1       and thx again for everything
12:54 jdavidb     @seen jwagner
12:54 munin       jdavidb: jwagner was last seen in #koha 1 day, 13 hours, 22 minutes, and 1 second ago: <jwagner> Hi all, sorry, been off on another screen
16:19 |Lupin|     good evening
16:55 |Lupin|     bye all !
20:33 richard     hi
20:38 pianohacker Hello
20:48 chris       morning
21:10 chris       hey nengard
21:11 chris       so http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 you say?
21:11 munin       04Bug 2046: normal, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Suggestions: Title Field too small
21:12 nengard     changed my mind the comments on bug 2046 imply there may be more than a db issue
21:12 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Suggestions: Title Field too small
21:12 nengard     let's do this: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2761
21:12 munin       04Bug 2761: major, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
21:13 chris       k
21:14 chris       oh yeah we can do that
21:14 nengard     cool
21:14 chris       so when making db changes you need to do a few things
21:14 chris       the first is make the change locally and check it works
21:15 chris       so in this case we would get into our koha db
21:15 chris       then run
21:15 nengard     by 'get into our koha db' do you mean musing mysql - or just get into the directory where we have our git branch
21:16 chris       ahh sorry by using mysql
21:16 nengard     no prob - if we're documenting this i want to be very very specific
21:16 nengard     :)
21:17 chris       so once we are in mysql we can run some sql to alter the items table
21:17 chris       ill let you figure that one out :-)
21:17 nengard     i forgot what i set as my username on mysql :)
21:17 chris       kohaadmin probably
21:18 pianohacker nengard: Try hitting Ctrl-R, then typing in mysql -u
21:18 nengard     you are right ;)
21:18 nengard     okay so now i want to update the table in question
21:18 chris       yep
21:19 nengard     UPDATE items SET itemcallnumber ....
21:19 nengard     bleh - off to read the manual - be right back :) soooo out of practice
21:19 chris       hint, it starts with ALTER
21:19 nengard     don't tell me ... i'll get it :)
21:23 nengard     ALTER items MODIFY itemnumber varchar(255);
21:23 chris       that oughta do it, at least for modern versions of mysql
21:23 chris       its itemcallnumber tho
21:24 chris       making itemnumber a varchar would be bad :)
21:24 nengard     hehe
21:24 nengard     oops
21:24 lamiette    w
21:24 chris       thats why we try it locally before we send a patch ;)
21:24 nengard     mysql> ALTER items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);
21:24 nengard     ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255)' at line 1
21:24 chris       ALTER TABLE items
21:25 nengard     ahh - i thought TABLE was supposed to be the table name
21:25 chris       w to you too lamiette
21:25 lamiette    chris: morning getting to my ability to identify what window I am in
21:25 chris       heh, monday's will do that
21:25 lamiette    trying to :w irc instead of a buffer in vim
21:25 nengard     ah - i forgot to pick a database first - now this i need help with
21:25 chris       use koha;
21:25 nengard     i've only ever used phpmyadmin :)
21:26 nengard     okay
21:26 nengard     change made
21:26 chris       sweet
21:26 chris       and koha still mostly works (it should but it never hurts to click around a bit)
21:27 chris       (for something this benign checking isnt super nessecary but its a good habit to get into)
21:28 nengard     clicking done
21:28 chris       cool
21:28 chris       so we know it works
21:29 nengard     well - we know it doesn't break anything :)
21:29 chris       the next step is to edit installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
21:30 chris       what i would do is vim installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
21:30 nengard     chris - in this instance shouldn't we also change the other tables with call numbers?
21:30 nengard     biblio or biblioitems - i need to check and see where else there is a call number
21:30 chris       probably not, if they are using itemlevelcallnumbers it doesnt store it elsewhere
21:31 nengard     okay
21:32 nengard     okay i'm in kohastructure.sql
21:32 chris       i would type /itemcallnumber
21:32 nengard     am i looking for the items table and itemcallnumber field i assume
21:32 chris       that will jump you right to it
21:33 pianohacker nengard: Yes
21:33 chris       ack i have a meeting in 10 mins
21:33 nengard     done
21:33 chris       but once you find that, you want to change the varchar(30) to varchar(255)
21:33 nengard     done
21:33 chris       cool
21:34 chris       save and quit that file
21:34 nengard     now create patch? or is there more?
21:34 nengard     done
21:34 chris       more
21:34 chris       now we get to edit updatedatabase.pl
21:34 nengard     same directory?
21:34 chris       vim installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
21:34 chris       yep
21:35 nengard     okay found the line and changed it
21:35 nengard     and saved it
21:35 nengard     next
21:35 chris       there is no changing
21:35 chris       :)
21:35 nengard     changed from 30 to 255
21:35 nengard     no??
21:35 chris       you cant change in updatedatabase.pl
21:35 nengard     hehe
21:35 nengard     bleh
21:35 chris       no cos that won't get run
21:36 nengard     k
21:36 nengard     what do i do?
21:36 nengard     sorry
21:36 nengard     was rushing cause you had to go
21:36 chris       ahh sweet
21:36 chris       meeting pushed back to 11
21:36 nengard     yippe
21:36 chris       so i have an hour
21:36 nengard     okay i have updatedatabase open
21:37 chris       what you want do do is come down in the file to just before sub DropAllForeignKeys
21:37 chris       so /sub DropAllForeignKeys
21:37 chris       will jump you there
21:37 nengard     k
21:37 nengard     there
21:37 chris       now scroll up a bit
21:38 chris       there is an if block
21:38 chris       and a $DBversion= 'some number';
21:38 chris       before that?
21:38 nengard     uh huh
21:38 chris       what number is it?
21:38 nengard     .041
21:38 nengard     or longer 3.01.00.041
21:38 chris       right
21:39 chris       in that case ours will be 3.01.00.042
21:39 chris       so copy that line and the line below it, and paste it after the if block
21:39 chris       then change the 41 to 42
21:39 nengard     confused
21:40 nengard     paste after this:
21:40 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 nengard     $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:40 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:40 nengard     print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (added AWSPrivateKey syspref - note that if you use enhanced content from Amazon, this should be set right away.)";
21:40 nengard     }
21:40 chris       yes
21:40 nengard     andcopy this:
21:40 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 nengard     $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:40 chris       just the first 2 lines
21:40 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:40 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:40 chris       ye
21:40 chris       s
21:41 chris       and then change 41 to 42
21:41 nengard     k
21:41 nengard     done
21:41 chris       now we want to add a line after the if to do our db change
21:41 nengard     which is the alter line
21:41 chris       so $dbh->do("That sql we tested before");
21:42 chris       *nod*
21:42 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:42 chris       thats it
21:42 nengard     done
21:42 nengard     close IF?
21:43 chris       now you want the last 2 lines from above
21:43 chris       the SetVersion one
21:44 chris       and the print
21:44 chris       then close the if
21:44 chris       and we want the print to say something meaningful
21:45 chris       like changing itemcallnumber to varchar(255) or something
21:45 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard     print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard     print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard     print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:45 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:45 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:45 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:45 nengard     print "Change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.";
21:45 chris       yeah just once will do tho
21:45 nengard     }
21:45 nengard     ooops!!!
21:45 nengard     sorry
21:45 chris       :)
21:45 nengard     hehe
21:46 nengard     sticky fingers
21:46 chris       maybe add
21:46 chris       Upgrade to $DBversion done
21:46 chris       to your print
21:46 chris       and end it with \n
21:46 chris       (before the ";)
21:46 chris       \n = newline
21:46 chris       other than that, looks great
21:47 chris       and a trick is http://koha.pastebin.com/
21:47 chris       for pasting stuff
21:47 chris       (thats longer than a few lines anyway)
21:47 nengard     there is no new line in the past version upgrade
21:47 chris       well can you fix that while you are there :)
21:48 chris       there is in 39 :)
21:48 chris       and previous
21:48 nengard     okay
21:48 chris       cool
21:48 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.041';
21:48 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:48 nengard     $dbh->do("INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('AWSPrivateKey','','See:  http://aws.amazon.com.  Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.','','free')");
21:48 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:48 nengard     print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (added AWSPrivateKey syspref - note that if you use enhanced content from Amazon, this should be set right away.)\n";
21:49 nengard     }
21:49 nengard     $DBversion = '3.01.00.042';
21:49 nengard     if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion)) {
21:49 nengard     $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE items MODIFY itemcallnumber varchar(255);");
21:49 nengard     SetVersion ($DBversion);
21:49 nengard     print " Upgrade to $DBversion done (change max length of itemcallnumber to 255 from 30.)\n";
21:49 nengard     }
21:49 chris       awesome
21:49 chris       save and quit
21:49 nengard     sone
21:49 nengard     done
21:49 chris       and just 1 last file to g
21:49 nengard     :)
21:49 chris       kohaversion.pl
21:49 chris       in the base dir of your git checkout
21:50 nengard     change to .042
21:50 chris       you want to change the number there to be 42 too
21:50 chris       *snap*
21:50 nengard     done
21:50 nengard     :)
21:50 chris       right, that's how we make a db change
21:50 nengard     so much fun :) hehe
21:50 nengard     yipppppeeeeeee
21:50 nengard     i'll clean this up and put it on the tutorials page
21:50 nengard     and i'll submit my first db patch :)
21:51 chris       now before sending a patch you always want to fetch and rebase
21:51 chris       but you know that eh?
21:51 nengard     i always do that before creating my patch
21:51 nengard     why after?
21:51 chris       sorry before creating
21:51 nengard     k
21:51 nengard     :)
21:52 nengard     i meant before i start writing my changes i pulled it
21:52 nengard     you did say before
21:52 chris       yep, then just before i do my patch
21:52 chris       i fetch and rebase again
21:52 chris       in case someone else has sent and had one accepted in the meantime
21:52 chris       then create patch
21:52 chris       and send
21:52 chris       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today
21:53 chris       dunno if its easier to take from there
21:53 chris       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/text.pl?channel=koha;date=2009-08-16 even
21:53 nengard     okay i'm confused - this screen for committing is diff than the one i'm used to seeing
21:53 nengard     usually i hit esc and then type ZZ
21:54 nengard     but that's not working
21:54 chris       it will be vim
21:54 chris       so just edit it as if it was vim
21:54 chris       save and quit
21:54 nengard     never used vim :)
21:54 chris       its vi improved
21:54 nengard     nope
21:54 nengard     it's typing my :wq
21:55 chris       did you hit esc ?
21:55 nengard     yes
21:55 chris       ok, control-z
21:55 nengard     esc not working - at the buttom it says ^0 WRITEOUT
21:55 chris       to background it
21:55 nengard     no - what the heck is this
21:55 nengard     i can't stop it from typing
21:55 chris       ctrl-c ?
21:56 nengard     that's cursor position
21:56 nengard     according tot he bottom
21:56 nengard     didn't do anything
21:56 chris       ctrl-x  ?
21:56 chris       ahh you are in nano
21:57 nengard     that goe me out
21:57 chris       i hate nano
21:57 chris       ok
21:57 nengard     what the hell is nano???
21:57 nengard     and how did i get in there?
21:57 chris       sudo apt-get remove nano
21:57 chris       its a copy of pico .. which used to come with pine, lightweight editor
21:58 chris       pine was my first email client
21:58 chris       back in the day
21:58 nengard     okay
21:58 chris       ok try your commit again
21:58 nengard     hmm
21:58 nengard     it seems to have created my patch
21:58 chris       and you should be in vi
21:58 nengard     but i'm not sure where it went
21:59 nengard     cause now it says there is nothing to commit
21:59 chris       ahh created your commit you mean?
21:59 nengard     yes
21:59 nengard     sorry
21:59 nengard     or not
21:59 nengard     i did status and there isn't anything there
21:59 nengard     .....
21:59 chris       git commit --amend
21:59 chris       yeah if you committed there wont be
21:59 nengard     okay scary blue screen with my commit info
22:00 nengard     this is not vim
22:00 nengard     or vi
22:00 chris       ctrl-c
22:00 nengard     that got me out
22:00 chris       export EDITOR=vi
22:00 chris       git commit --amend
22:00 nengard     THANK YOU
22:00 nengard     this I know :)
22:01 nengard     nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ export EDITOR=vi
22:01 nengard     nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ git commit --amend
22:01 nengard     Created commit 2e9b904: BUG 2761 Fix max length of itemcallnumber to 255
22:01 nengard     3 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
22:01 nengard     nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$
22:01 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2761 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
22:01 chris       sweet
22:01 chris       and you are ready to create and send your patch
22:03 nengard     sent :)
22:03 nengard     i will not edit this transcript for others to benefit from
22:04 chris       :)
22:06 nengard     patch submitted and attached to bug: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2761
22:06 munin       04Bug 2761: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, NEW, Call Number Field Too Few Characters
22:07 chris       coolio
22:15 nengard     hey gmcharlt put his tutorial on his blog
22:15 nengard     can i put mine natively on the wiki?
22:16 chris       sure you can
22:17 nengard     k
22:17 nengard     doing that
22:17 nengard     don't htink people on my blog care too much :)
22:18 nengard     can we do colored font on the wiki?
22:19 chris       pass
22:19 nengard     hehe
22:19 nengard     okay will edit tutorial more than gmcharlt did :)
22:23 chris       :)
22:25 chris       your email just hit the list
22:40 nengard     chris what's the syntax to have the wiki not turn all words with multi caps into links?
22:40 nengard     http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:dbupdatetutorial
22:41 chris       no idea
22:41 nengard     hehe
22:41 nengard     k
22:41 nengard     how about how do i make my link look right?
22:41 nengard     http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:tutorials
22:41 nengard     i want it to have the title of the page and i want the page under tutorials
22:41 nengard     not under documentation
22:42 chris       right you have to change the link to it
22:42 chris       ill fix the title
22:42 nengard     i thought just by putting it on tutorials it would use that page as the parent
22:43 chris       http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:dbupdatetutorial
22:43 chris       nope
22:43 chris       fixed the title 2 secs
22:46 chris       http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:tutorials:dbupdatetutorial
22:49 nengard     thanks
22:49 chris       ok meeting time
23:03 nengard     hey does anyone know where the koha news is stored? it's not in the db like i thought
23:03 nengard     does it create a text file?
23:10 nengard     nevermind - found it - it is in the db
23:20 nengard     chris - thought of something we didn't cover what if you don't want to change the structure of a table - but the data in it - the you wouldn't have to edit kohastructure.sql - right?
23:20 nengard     is there something you do have to edit?
23:24 nengard     example - for this: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2611
23:25 munin       04Bug 2611: normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Language Issue: Patron Permissions
23:25 nengard     i looked at the contents of the permissions table but I don't see the permissions I see when I got to edit a patron's permissions
23:26 nengard     but once I figure out which table - I want to edit the text in the table, not the table itself
12:22 CGI639      any one could help me  in Circulation and fines rules koha 3.0.3
12:27 gmcharlt    CGI639: what's up?
15:03 cait        @wunder konstanz
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15:12 |Lupin|     hi again :)
15:34 |Lupin|     hi pianohacker,hi hdl_laptop
15:35 pianohacker hi
15:41 hdl_laptop  hi |Lupin|
17:03 |Lupin|     bye all
17:34 |Lupin|     hi again, folks
17:34 pianohacker Hello
17:50 |Lupin|     time to leave, happy day / night all !
18:33 brendan     morning #koha
18:40 pianohacker Good morning
18:41 pianohacker Still safe from the fire?
18:58 brendan     ha -- yeah -- just have poor air quality
18:58 brendan     pianohacker -- you have anymore done on your new sys-pref editor?
18:59 brendan     I'd be interested in taking a sneak peak -- if you have one available
18:59 pianohacker Not beyond what's on github
18:59 pianohacker Hmm. Not available on a public demo at the moment
18:59 brendan     cool
18:59 pianohacker Do you have the URL?
18:59 brendan     I've got it somewhere
19:00 brendan     was looking more for a public demo at the moment
19:01 brendan     @wunder 93117
19:01 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.8°C (12:00 PM PDT on August 15, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
19:02 brendan     thought the condition would pop up as smoke!
19:02 brendan     munin you should report smokey
19:02 munin       brendan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:04 pianohacker brendan: Source at http://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/prefs/; sometime tomorrow or monday I could give you a demo while my computer at home is on
19:05 chris       brendan: http://librarian.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=admin
19:05 brendan     cool I'll pul up a clone sometime later today
19:05 brendan     ah chris -- you're excellent
19:05 pianohacker Ahh, cool. Didn't know if you still had that, up, thanks chris
19:05 chris       well it changes, it was my translation branch
19:06 chris       but i just checked out the prefs branch :)
19:09 pianohacker brendan: I think you were looking into a VPS service a while back. Did you have any luck? Might well have to buy some for  things like this
19:11 brendan     :)  -- using the mosso cloud at the moment
19:11 brendan     1.5 cents an hour
19:12 brendan     or just some internal virtual machines in my office
19:12 brendan     but I agree -- I need to get something more public --
19:18 pianohacker Hmm. Rackspace is jumping on the cloud marketing bandwagon pretty thoroughly
19:18 pianohacker brendan: You or ByWater have anything interesting going on in the Koha realm?
19:19 brendan     just some small libraries migrating at the moment - but hoping to get to a 'did you mean' added for the OPAC
19:20 pianohacker If you can get something better than the old hoary kohaspsuggest, you will make a lot of librarians very happy
19:20 brendan     funding issues at the moment -- but hopefully a few libraries come through and then we'll get to that
19:20 pianohacker Yeah
19:21 brendan     I agree...  current thoughts were something similar... but I agree that was funky
19:21 brendan     so if that comes a reality -- I'm open for suggestions -- currently doing some research on how we want to tackle that
19:21 pianohacker The overall process wasn't too horrible, but the requirement for a separate, poorly documented database was kind of odd
19:22 brendan     agreed -- would be nicer to not have a separate database.
19:23 brendan     so stalled on that for the moment -- but hopefully that picks up again soon -- I think the main librarian interested in that is on vacation for three weeks
19:23 pianohacker Good luck. Can't wait to see it :)
19:23 brendan     :)
19:55 pianohacker bye for now
04:49 chris       test
07:07 chris       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/
08:57 cait1       good morning #koha
09:13 chris       hi cait1
09:20 cait1       cait1?
09:20 cait1       hi chris
09:26 chris       http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/translation
09:26 chris       that branch has your up to date .po files
09:26 chris       so you could do
09:27 chris       git remote add translation git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git
09:27 chris       then
09:27 chris       git fetch translation
09:28 chris       git checkout -b translation --track translation/translation
09:29 chris       and then you will be running master with the lastest versions of .po
09:34 cait1       oh
09:35 cait1       j
09:35 cait1       will try
09:35 cait1       i was about to add them manually by download from pootle
09:36 chris       that works too :)
09:37 chris       but i plan to keep the translation branch up to date, and galen will pull from it into master every so often also
09:37 cait1       sounds good
09:37 cait1       Im still fighting with git
09:37 cait1       but fighting with apache is worse
09:40 cait1       ok, I think those three commands worked
09:40 cait1       what do I need to do now?
09:41 chris       if you look in misc/translator/po
09:41 chris       the new 300200 files should be in there
09:42 cait1       ony 3000000 there
09:42 chris       hmmm
09:42 chris       git branch
09:42 chris       what branch does it say you are on?
09:44 cait1       translation
09:44 chris       and if you do
09:44 chris       git log
09:44 chris       what is the latest commit?
09:44 chris       German translation updates?
09:44 cait1       sorry, different computer cant copy - its patrons with no checkouts report
09:45 cait1       german translation update is the first
09:45 chris       weird
09:45 chris       should have de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po
09:45 chris       and no 3000000 one
09:46 cait1       perhaps i missed something during install? I m really new to git, but the responses to your commands looked fine
09:47 chris       hmm nope what you typed looks fine
09:54 cait1       adding them manually seems to work
09:55 cait1       opac has probllems
09:57 cait1       %, d: Unknown or unsupported format specification
09:58 cait1       and one warning above that, staff is ok
09:59 chris       ahh i bet there is a space in there % s instead of %s of %, instead of %s,
09:59 cait1       yes somehing like that
09:59 cait1       but dificult to find it
09:59 chris       ill fix that up
09:59 cait1       ok thx chris!
10:00 cait1       the warning is in opac-opensearch.tmpl line 38
10:00 chris       can you try getting it again
10:00 cait1       and it stops with an error after creating opac-sendshelf.tmpl
10:01 cait1       mom
10:02 cait1       successful, but the warning about opac-opensearch is still there
10:03 chris       but it created the templates this time?
10:03 cait1       yes
10:03 chris       cool
10:04 cait1       did all templates, just showed the warning while doing it
10:04 cait1       seems to be an additional <
10:06 chris       wow!!
10:06 cait1       copy and paste is not always an good idea
10:06 cait1        :(
10:06 cait1       when switching between different computers
10:08 chris       yeah always dangerous
10:15 cait1       what I wanted to really show you, when searching for Dienstoberläche I get to "GNU General Public License, version 2"
10:15 cait1       this search works in strange ways
10:17 chris       yeah the pootle search is weird
10:31 cait1       ok, question about git
10:32 cait1       how to change branch back to HEAD?
10:32 cait1       or just leave it as it is?
10:32 chris       git checkout master
10:32 chris       gets you back
10:33 cait1       oh it tells me Im behind origin/master (58 commits)
10:35 cait1       hm I dont really understand what I do, need to read more about git :)
10:36 chris       thats telling you that since you last fetched and rebased 58 changes have happened
10:38 cait1       ah I think I did git pull when I was on mywork branch
10:39 chris       ah yep that would do it
10:39 chris       right time for bed, got work tomorrow
10:39 chris       enjoy the rest of your weekend
10:39 cait1       ok, good night chris
10:40 cait1       and thx again for everything