| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:03 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: and the permissions are the same, too ? |
| 12:05 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: sorry for being unclear, yes. |
| 12:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: np |
| 12:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: I asked because I have met this problem |
| 12:08 |
|
|Lupin| |
just because I have ea restrictive umask and forgot to re-run chmod after having generated the translations |
| 12:09 |
|
magnusenger |
-rw-r--r-- should be ok, right? |
| 12:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: depends for what |
| 12:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: if it's for the directories, I'd add x for group and others |
| 12:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: to be sure the webserver is allowed to enter directories |
| 12:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
please everybody |
| 12:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
is it correct that the different libraries are stored in the branches table ? |
| 12:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
and also: why is his called branches rather than, say, libraries ? |
| 12:19 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: no, those were the files, eg in prog/nn-NO/modules. Directories are drwxr-xr-x |
| 12:20 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: should be enough, indeed |
| 12:20 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: after you got the repository, which commands did you use to install ? |
| 12:21 |
|
kf |
lupin: the defined libraries are stored in branches |
| 12:22 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: I followed the steps in INSTALL.debian-lenny |
| 12:22 |
|
kf |
lupin: I think the name is for a historical reason, also look at branchrelations and branchcategories |
| 12:23 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone; cd kohaclone; git checkout -b myinstall origin; perl Makefile.PL; make; make test; sudo make install |
| 12:23 |
|
kf |
lupin: when you define search groups the relation is stored in these tables, but I think groups aren't used in Koha atm |
| 12:26 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: ok, thanks. I was trying to figure out where the "branch" term comes from. And yes I noticed that several tables have branch in their names |
| 12:28 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: I think there is one additional command to run when compiling from git |
| 12:28 |
|
|Lupin| |
but can't find it |
| 12:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
however I myself added it to the wiki a few days ago |
| 12:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
can't remember to which page, though |
| 12:29 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin| ;-) |
| 12:32 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: I was a bit unsure about the bit that says "git checkout -b myinstall origin", I can't remember doing that on earlier installs... |
| 12:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: 'm not sure either, but this may be to create a branh, i.e. if you intend to modify the code |
| 12:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
hmm |
| 12:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
once loged in to the wiki |
| 12:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
is there a way to see all the pages one has changed on it ? |
| 12:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
there is an rss feed |
| 12:44 |
|
hdl_laptop |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=recent&id=start |
| 12:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: I 'm not sure this is what I'm looking for |
| 12:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: I'm looking for a list of all the pages _I_ have modified once, even not recently |
| 12:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: cd KOHADIR/misc/translator/ |
| 12:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: ./install-code.pl LANGUAGECODE |
| 12:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: and replace LANGUAGECODE by what is appropriate for you |
| 12:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: does that help ? |
| 12:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: I have finally found the page: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development |
| 13:01 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: That sounded promising, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/m5cf50a07 And I'm not doing a dev install, just a normal install but from git. |
| 13:06 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: then I don't know. |
| 13:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: I guess if I were you I'd examine the script and see wha goes wrong, since it's perhaps not much. |
| 13:07 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: Thanks for trying!! |
| 13:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: also: the command may be useful for any install from git, nos sure whether it is specific to dev-installs, installs from gi, ... |
| 13:27 |
|
|Lupin| |
please everybody |
| 13:28 |
|
|Lupin| |
Is it correct that koha does not have a function to send a fresh password to a user that would have forgotten or lost it ? |
| 13:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: correct |
| 13:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
hitting the road again - talk to you all later |
| 13:30 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin| et al: finally thought to look in koha-opac-error_log. With each request to a detail-page in the opac, i get *5* of these: "File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/intranet-tmpl, referer: http://sksk.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]pl?biblionumber=1" |
| 13:31 |
|
magnusenger |
now, why would Koha be looking for *opac*/htdocs/*intranet*-tmpl ? |
| 13:33 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: no idea, but that's the kind of thing you may be able to debug with Perl's print function, at least |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: there is a function which is called something like find_user_and_template |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: you look this one |
| 13:34 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin|: sure enough, i'll give it a try |
| 13:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
magnusenger: grep "sub find_user_and template" to locate it, or even better use ctag, I think it supports Perl... |
| 13:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: ctags++ |
| 13:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: :) |
| 13:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
it makes people think you are a real hacker when you give the location of a funciton implementing a syscall in the LInux kernel |
| 13:45 |
|
schuster |
OK gmcharlt - you out of the office? |
| 13:46 |
|
schuster |
I see he was hitting the road, but didn't know for how long... |
| 13:49 |
|
schuster |
hmmm I'll catch him via email. |
| 13:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
schuster: he left a quarter ago or something like that, perhaps more |
| 14:06 |
|
Snow_Fox |
RHCL hate to break it to ya but i think you have incomming agian |
| 14:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
just rain in lawrence :P |
| 14:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
prob not as bad though |
| 14:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
about to rain here agian |
| 14:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
although not as ugly as whats in indiana right now |
| 14:15 |
|
|Lupin| |
pls, is it correct- to store a user login in the borrowers.userid column ? |
| 14:15 |
|
|Lupin| |
not sre what userid refers to. |
| 14:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
ah that's ok |
| 14:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
just had a look to what we have in our database |
| 14:17 |
|
schuster |
userid is user login to pac and also to staff interface if you provide permissions. |
| 14:21 |
|
|Lupin| |
schuster: yep, that's what I finally figured out. Thanks a lot for your help. |
| 14:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
I'm wondering what's he best way to implement dependent choices |
| 14:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
like one authorised value represents a list of manufacturers |
| 14:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
and then for each one there is a list of products |
| 14:26 |
|
|Lupin| |
so two lists, but choice in the second one depends on what has been selected in the first one |
| 14:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
one other ossibility would be onelist that combines manufacturer and products, but it does not look very elegant to me and also, at database level I'd like to have a clear distinction between the two concepts |
| 14:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
does anybody have suggestions or remarks on this, pls ? |
| 14:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
perhaps two lists and then in a function somewhere check that the (manufacturer, product) pair that has been chosen is valid |
| 14:32 |
|
schuster |
This doesn't sound like a library issue...?? Are you using the system for another purpose? |
| 14:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
schuster: kind of. |
| 14:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
schuster: we will use koha to deliver DRM-protected books to visuall impaired persons. |
| 14:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
schuster: so the system must know about manufacturers and platforms for which a book can be encrypted |
| 14:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i know necessary evil |
| 14:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
Snow_Fox: I don't like them either |
| 14:36 |
|
|Lupin| |
Snow_Fox: but given the way publishers react in France, the choice is not between DRM and no DRM. The choice is rather between books with DRMs and no book at all. |
| 14:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
true |
| 14:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
but one can hope cant we |
| 14:40 |
|
|Lupin| |
Snow_Fox: definitely |
| 15:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i think i may have asked this before but cant remember |
| 15:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
is there a data dictionary for the database? |
| 15:06 |
|
magnusenger |
|Lupin| et al: Looks like my earlier problem may have been related to Firefox, not Koha. I tried it in Safari and the languages worked as expected. Then i closed Firefox and started it again, and now it works there too! |
| 15:08 |
|
paul_p |
hey, magnusenger: I apologize... as it's a very known/common issue (related to page caching) |
| 15:09 |
|
magnusenger |
paul_p: good thing it wasn't something completely unknown, then! :-) |
| 15:10 |
|
magnusenger |
paul_p: is this something end users may run into, or is it related to the itranet? Firebug was reporting 404s for some js-stuff that seems to be only used in the intranet... |
| 15:11 |
|
magnusenger |
...in the opac |
| 15:31 |
|
magnusenger |
gotta run, thanks for your help, folks! |
| 15:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
till soon, everybody. Take care. |
| 15:57 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey to make a patron a staff memeber is it better to go in a granulaly do it via the permissions or just to set the category to staff |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
Permissions are the only thing that really affect access |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
The patron categories don't grant any kind of status on their own |
| 15:58 |
|
Snow_Fox |
crapski |
| 15:59 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ok thanks owen |
| 16:03 |
|
atz |
yeah, case in point... a library may have many "staff" who aren't actually librarians or circdesk ppl |
| 16:04 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well so much for the simple document :-P |
| 16:05 |
|
rhcl |
@seen chris |
| 16:05 |
|
munin |
rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 59 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <chris> yep |
| 16:07 |
|
rhcl |
7.8 quake hit NZ I see, I assume everybody is OK. |
| 16:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i would assume not.... |
| 16:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
7.8 is nothing to scoff at ':\ |
| 16:08 |
|
rhcl |
OK, well, I hope everybody is OK |
| 16:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
there we go |
| 16:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
me too |
| 16:08 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, that will rattle your cage |
| 16:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ok so permissions are not quite like active directory in terms of user groups |
| 16:11 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well that kinda sucks |
| 16:19 |
|
atz |
Snow_Fox: by not quite, you mean not at all. |
| 16:19 |
|
atz |
permissions are all based on granted privs to individuals... |
| 16:22 |
|
paul_p |
hello Snow_Fox & atz & owen |
| 16:22 |
|
atz |
greets paul_p, did you enjoy the holiday? |
| 16:23 |
|
paul_p |
almost time to leave for me, here in Europe |
| 16:23 |
|
paul_p |
atz: yep. |
| 16:23 |
|
paul_p |
although I worked a little yesterday (working on our 2010 plans...) |
| 16:24 |
|
paul_p |
we are very very very busy and the next months/years will probably not be too quiet. (note i'm happy with that) |
| 16:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
nice |
| 16:26 |
|
paul_p |
atz: do you plan to have some holidays this summer (how many weeks do you have ? iirc, the US standard is 2 weeks per year, isn't it ?) |
| 16:27 |
|
paul_p |
(in France, the legal minimum is 5 weeks) |
| 16:27 |
|
Snow_Fox |
atz: yes i mean not at all, i cant set a generic permissions category like circ staff, and when i create a new user or add it to that category he doesnt get the perms |
| 16:27 |
|
Snow_Fox |
am i correct? |
| 16:27 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: Correct |
| 16:27 |
|
schuster |
snow_fox you are correct |
| 16:27 |
|
pianohacker |
You can only set global defaults right now |
| 16:28 |
|
atz |
paul_p: yes, the french are superior in that respect... |
| 16:28 |
|
Snow_Fox |
pianohacker pickaxe please |
| 16:28 |
|
Snow_Fox |
are they gonna change it eventually |
| 16:28 |
|
paul_p |
atz: I won't tell you how many holidays librarians in universities have... you would decide to learn french & move here) |
| 16:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: <thuck> |
| 16:28 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 16:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: I don't know if there's a bug out for it. |
| 16:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Would be a good thing to get some libraries together and co-sponsor, though |
| 16:29 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ill keep that in mind |
| 16:29 |
|
Snow_Fox |
would make user management a bit easier |
| 16:29 |
|
atz |
Snow_Fox: the proposed mechanism you describe would not be too difficult to implement |
| 16:30 |
|
atz |
the difficulty would be when changing patron category, what happens then? |
| 16:31 |
|
atz |
your only choices would be (1) nothing, (2) overwrite w/ new categories defaults or (3) supplement w/ new categories defaults |
| 16:32 |
|
atz |
my impression is that none of this would matter much if you could batch edit effectively. |
| 16:33 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well the idea is similar to active directory which is what im more familiar with anyways |
| 16:33 |
|
Snow_Fox |
if need be you can create a new user group and toss those users into it |
| 16:33 |
|
Snow_Fox |
the only thing i figure would be problematic would be having users being part of multiple groups |
| 16:34 |
|
atz |
yeah, the difference is that in AD you can be in many groups... koha has only one field for patron category |
| 16:34 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well |
| 16:34 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i dont think it would be that hard though |
| 16:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
would change the insides a little thats for sure |
| 16:35 |
|
atz |
a ton, actually |
| 16:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
why im not a dedicated programmer :-P |
| 16:35 |
|
atz |
all the circ rules and stats reports depend on patron category |
| 16:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
oh i see |
| 16:35 |
|
pianohacker |
It would be one of those joyous, slog through the code refactoring projects |
| 16:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
then why not just leave categorys alone so to speak |
| 16:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
and add a feature like |
| 16:36 |
|
atz |
having singular defaults for new users would be easy.... switching to a multiple group/category based system is a huge rewrite |
| 16:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
Patron Permissions Blocks |
| 16:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
or something |
| 16:36 |
|
atz |
yeah, that makes sense |
| 16:36 |
|
pianohacker |
Would still be difficult, but more practical |
| 16:36 |
|
atz |
ryan might be working on something similar already |
| 16:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 16:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
nothing to see here |
| 16:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
no grand plans |
| 16:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
etc |
| 16:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
move on |
| 16:38 |
|
chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]uake-measures-7-8 |
| 16:38 |
|
chris |
no real damage |
| 16:38 |
|
chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ecent_quakes.html |
| 16:39 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i would imagine with all the mountains in NZ especially in the rainforests it would be some nice rock slides |
| 18:01 |
|
joetho |
Hello Ryan! Are you here? |
| 18:02 |
|
pianohacker |
ryan: customerping |
| 18:03 |
|
joetho |
what does THAT mean. |
| 18:03 |
|
joetho |
never mind |
| 18:34 |
|
joetho |
hello collum, hello tester |
| 18:35 |
|
pianohacker |
<TMPL_IF __odd__>Hi, collum!</TMPL_IF> |
| 18:38 |
|
collum |
Hi |
| 18:39 |
|
joetho |
Hi, RYAN! |
| 18:40 |
|
joetho |
Five bucks to Ryan's paypal if he writes anything on here in the next hour. |
| 18:42 |
|
owen |
joetho: If that turned out to work it could revolutionize Koha support |
| 18:44 |
|
joetho |
56 minutes left. |
| 18:46 |
|
ryam |
Hi there |
| 18:46 |
|
ryam |
lost 5 $ ? :) |
| 18:47 |
|
pianohacker |
@seen ryan |
| 18:47 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: ryan was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 23 hours, 45 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: * ryan Ryan Higgins, LibLime |
| 18:47 |
|
pianohacker |
So not since the meeting |
| 18:47 |
|
ryam |
hehe :) |
| 18:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
sneaky |
| 18:59 |
|
joetho |
this works great with my daughters |
| 19:00 |
|
joetho |
forty minutes left. Operators are standing by! |
| 19:22 |
|
joetho |
Nineteen minutes remaining for this one-time offer! |
| 19:22 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
ill do it, $5 us is like 10 million nz |
| 19:26 |
|
ebegin |
Chris, really? |
| 19:28 |
|
ebegin |
1 U.S. dollar = 1.54035736 New Zealand dollars |
| 19:28 |
|
ebegin |
joetho, what is the offer actually? |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
yeah i tend to exaggerate for effect |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:30 |
|
joetho |
You mean the one that expires in TEN MINUTES?? |
| 19:31 |
|
ebegin |
Yeo |
| 19:31 |
|
ebegin |
yep |
| 19:31 |
|
joetho |
I have been trying to reach Ryan by email to schedule some stuff. |
| 19:31 |
|
ebegin |
Oh, i see |
| 19:44 |
|
joetho |
uh oh |
| 19:44 |
|
joetho |
times up. |
| 20:32 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:32 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ello |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
morning richard |
| 03:04 |
|
chris |
quiet today |
| 03:06 |
|
ebegin |
Hey, does anybody know how rss feed are managed? |
| 03:07 |
|
chris |
in koha? |
| 03:08 |
|
ebegin |
Yes. If I subscibe to a search result in the opac, will the request will be send every time I refresh my RSS reader? |
| 03:08 |
|
chris |
everytime your reader asks for the feed again, yes |
| 03:10 |
|
ebegin |
So if i read my feed from, let's say, Google Reader, every time I refresh my page, this will trigger a search in the catalogue... do you know if this is the way most of the rss feeds work? |
| 03:12 |
|
chris |
not in google reader it wont |
| 03:12 |
|
chris |
google reader fetches feeds periodically |
| 03:12 |
|
chris |
like bloglines |
| 03:13 |
|
chris |
refreshing just refreshes your display, it doesnt refetch all the feeds you have subscribed to |
| 03:13 |
|
chris |
(that way if multiple people are subscribed to a feed, it only gets fetched once, every 10 mins or so ... instead of once per person) |
| 03:14 |
|
chris |
does that make sense? |
| 03:14 |
|
ebegin |
a lot actually... :) |
| 03:15 |
|
chris |
if you wanted to publicise a feed |
| 03:15 |
|
ebegin |
Do you know iGoogle? |
| 03:15 |
|
chris |
say recently acquisitioned books |
| 03:15 |
|
chris |
i would use feedburner |
| 03:15 |
|
chris |
then people could subscribe to that, feedburner fetches it once, ppl fetch it from feedburner lots |
| 03:15 |
|
chris |
saves your opac getting hit lots |
| 03:18 |
|
ebegin |
ok, that is good for the example you explaine with the recent acqui... but feedburner can not really used on a search result feed. For exemple, I perform a seach about Computer in the OPAC. I subscribe to the search result to know when a new book will get out from my Computer query. |
| 03:19 |
|
ebegin |
Am I right? |
| 03:19 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 03:21 |
|
ebegin |
Ok, and we may encounter problems if 100 persons subscribes to 10 search queries each... |
| 03:22 |
|
Amit |
hi koha #good morning |
| 03:22 |
|
ebegin |
hey Amit! |
| 03:22 |
|
Amit |
heya ebegin |
| 03:22 |
|
ebegin |
How are you? |
| 03:23 |
|
Amit |
ebegin: i m fine what about u? |
| 03:23 |
|
ebegin |
pretty good, thanks. |
| 03:25 |
|
ebegin |
How's the weather in India? |
| 03:26 |
|
ebegin |
Amit: IIRC, You are in India, right? |
| 03:26 |
|
Amit |
yes i m from India |
| 03:26 |
|
Amit |
i m in bangalore weather is good here in bangalore |
| 03:26 |
|
ebegin |
@wunder montreal, quebec |
| 03:26 |
|
munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 19.0°C (11:00 PM EDT on July 15, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangalore, india |
| 03:27 |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 03:27 |
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Amit |
hi munin |
| 03:28 |
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ebegin |
:) Amit, munin is a bot, an automated machine answering our request |
| 03:28 |
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ebegin |
@seen amit |
| 03:28 |
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munin |
ebegin: amit was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 4 seconds ago: <Amit> hi munin |
| 03:28 |
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Amit |
ok i think munin is a person |
| 03:28 |
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ebegin |
A lot of person think so |
| 03:29 |
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Amit |
haa.. |
| 03:50 |
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Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:50 |
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Amit |
chris: http://www.topnews.in/delhi-pu[…]subbranch-2149652 |
| 03:51 |
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chris |
ah yep, i saw that a while ago |
| 03:51 |
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chris |
good news |
| 03:52 |
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Amit |
http://www.tenderhome.com/mcd/[…]ease.php3?sno=652 |
| 03:52 |
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Amit |
http://www.indianexpress.com/n[…]doorsteps/489434/ |
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ebegin |
A lot of work on your shoulders Amit :) |
| 03:53 |
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Amit |
hmm ur right |
| 04:52 |
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brendan |
heya amit, chris, mason -- #koha |
| 04:53 |
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brendan |
@ wilsall, mt |
| 04:53 |
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munin |
brendan: I suck |
| 04:53 |
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Amit |
heya brendan |
| 05:00 |
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Amit |
munin: @wunder Delhi |
| 05:00 |
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munin |
Amit: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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brendan |
@wunder wilsall, mt |
| 05:03 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Shields Valley, Wilsall, Montana is 11.4°C (11:03 PM MDT on July 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:03 |
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ebegin |
Amit, is there a province or state in which delhi is? |
| 05:03 |
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brendan |
@wunder new delhi indian |
| 05:03 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in New Orleans Lakefront, Louisiana is 28.0°C (11:53 PM CDT on July 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder new delhi, indian |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in New Orleans Lakefront, Louisiana is 28.0°C (11:53 PM CDT on July 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
hehe |
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ebegin |
@wunder new delhi, india |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 33.0°C (10:00 AM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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ebegin |
haha! |
| 05:04 |
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brendan |
:) |
| 05:04 |
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ebegin |
@wunder delhi, india |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
ebegin: Delhi is union territory. |
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brendan |
@wunder delhi, uk |
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munin |
brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
National Capital Territory of Delhi (NCT), is the second-largest metropolis in India. |
| 05:05 |
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brendan |
@wunder National Capital Territory of Delhi |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Villages of Summit Woods, Reynoldsburg, Ohio is 21.8°C (1:03 AM EDT on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising). |
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Amit |
@wunder Dehradun |
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munin |
Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 28.0°C (8:30 AM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.51 in 999 hPa. |
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ebegin |
@wunder wonderland |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
:) |
| 05:06 |
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ebegin |
@wunder moon |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
@wunder Bangalore |
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munin |
Amit: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangalore, karnataka |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangaluru, karnataka |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangaluru |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
@wunder bangaluoore |
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munin |
Amit: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangaluru, india |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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brendan |
@wunder bangalore india |
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ebegin |
@wunder bangaluoore, india |
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munin |
brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
@wunder Bengaḷūru |
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munin |
Amit: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder Bengaḷuru, india |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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Amit |
@wunder New Delhi |
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munin |
Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 34.0°C (10:30 AM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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ebegin |
@wunder texas |
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munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
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ebegin |
@wunder dallas, texas |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in South of Downtown Dallas, Dallas, Texas is 30.7°C (12:12 AM CDT on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Thursday... |
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greenmang0 |
@wunder mumbai |
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munin |
greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0°C (10:10 AM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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Amit |
hi indradg |
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indradg |
Amit, hey |
| 05:37 |
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greenmang0 |
indradg: good morning |
| 05:38 |
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greenmang0 |
indradg: is it raining in Kolkata? |
| 05:38 |
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indradg |
greenmang0, morning... not raining right now... just overcast and gloomy |
| 05:39 |
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greenmang0 |
indradg: it's pouring outside here... |
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Amit |
hi nicomo |
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nicomo |
hi Amit |
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|Lupin| |
hello! |
| 06:58 |
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Amit |
hi Lupin |
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|Lupin| |
hey Amit |
| 06:59 |
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|Lupin| |
do you by chance know whether it is possible in KOha to get a list of recently added records ? |
| 07:00 |
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|Lupin| |
like, given a date, all the records that are more recent than this date |
| 07:00 |
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Amit |
i think u can check this by guided report |
| 07:02 |
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|Lupin| |
Amit: ah I didn't explore the report module so far so I didn' even thin about it. Thanks ! |
| 07:13 |
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|Lupin| |
the modules looks very cool ! |
| 07:13 |
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|Lupin| |
no idea whether it can help for the functionality I'm looking for, though |
| 07:24 |
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|Lupin| |
hello kf ! |
| 07:24 |
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kf |
guten morgen Lupin ! |
| 07:25 |
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Amit |
hi kf |
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|Lupin| |
gut geschlafen kf ? :) |
| 07:27 |
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kf |
ja, aber zu kurz - wie immer :) |
| 07:28 |
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kf |
hi Amit |
| 07:28 |
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|Lupin| |
kf :) |
| 07:29 |
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|Lupin| |
kf: do you by chance know whether it is possible in Koha to see a list of records that have been added after a given date ? |
| 07:30 |
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kf |
I think its possible, but dont know how, perhaps I can look at it later today |
| 07:30 |
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|Lupin| |
kf: thanks. Just posted to the list so maybe a reply will come from there... |
| 07:51 |
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kf |
lupin: ok |
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chris |
yes |Lupin| |
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chris |
you can query the items table |
| 07:56 |
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chris |
for dateaccessioned |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ah there is no binding for this in the web interface ? |
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chris |
you can do it in the reports module |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
if you are using acquisitions there is a prepared report |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
if not |
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chris |
just use the guided reports module |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ok, thanks ! We may not use the acquisition module systematically, so I think I'll have to use the guided report module. I'm just wondering where it is located in the web interface, I couldn't find it... |
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chris |
go to reports |
| 08:01 |
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chris |
then guided reports |
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|Lupin| |
chris: right, I'm there and creating a new report |
| 08:13 |
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|Lupin| |
it's really impressive |
| 08:13 |
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|Lupin| |
just surprised that title and author do not appear in the list of columns one can add... ? |
| 08:15 |
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|Lupin| |
hmm missing the possibility to limit by date.. guess will have to use some scriptiong and SQL queries... |
| 08:15 |
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|Lupin| |
hi laurence |
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laurence |
hello |lupin| |
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|Lupin| |
laurence: thanks a lot for the nice pages you have written on the french site for Koha |
| 08:17 |
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laurence |
:) |
| 08:19 |
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paul_p |
|Lupin|: hello. So, you confirm koha-fr.org is OK for disabled ppl ? nice to read (Drupal is supposed to be, but it's always better when one can test it IRL) |
| 08:21 |
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chris |
you can do sql in the guided reports to |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ah, will have to figure that out |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I don't see where one can do sql in the guided report... |
| 09:48 |
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chris |
go to reports, then guided reports |
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|Lupin| |
yep |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I did step 1 to 4 |
| 09:49 |
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chris |
dont do that :) |
| 09:49 |
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chris |
instead of choosing build new |
| 09:49 |
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chris |
choose create report from sql |
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|Lupin| |
chris: it chris: aaaaah |
| 09:49 |
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|Lupin| |
sorry I missed this button |
| 09:49 |
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chris |
np |
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chris |
easy to do |
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|Lupin| |
chris: and then in the SQL field, you give the whole select request ? |
| 09:51 |
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|Lupin| |
s/request/query/g |
| 09:51 |
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chris |
thats right |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ok |
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|Lupin| |
hmm I guess I'll have to learn some sql because it's not onl a select, also have to midify the db. |
| 09:52 |
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chris |
ahh you cant do that in the interface |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
have to do that in msyql |
| 09:53 |
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|Lupin| |
no ? |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
can only run selects (too dangerous otherwise) |
| 09:53 |
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|Lupin| |
not sure I understand that.. |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
someone might go delete from biblio; |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
blam no database |
| 09:53 |
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|Lupin| |
if the query is passed as is to mysql, why not ? |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
because we try to protect users from themselves |
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|Lupin| |
chris: sure I understand |
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|Lupin| |
chris: but how do you warranty / check that the request won't modify the database ? |
| 09:54 |
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|Lupin| |
is there a way to switch it to read only mode or something like that ? |
| 09:54 |
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chris |
by only running ones that begin with select |
| 09:54 |
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|Lupin| |
ah |
| 09:55 |
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|Lupin| |
hmm so there could be a system preference to disable this checking ? |
| 09:55 |
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chris |
if ($sql =~ /;?\W?(UPDATE|DELETE|DROP|INSERT|SHOW|CREATE)\W/i) { |
| 09:55 |
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chris |
return (undef, { sqlerr => $1} ); |
| 09:55 |
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chris |
nope |
| 09:55 |
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chris |
if you want to manipulate the database |
| 09:56 |
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chris |
its best to do it at the commandline |
| 09:56 |
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chris |
after doing a mysqldump |
| 09:56 |
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chris |
in case you make a mistake :) |
| 09:56 |
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chris |
or you could use phpmyadmin or something similair |
| 09:56 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: the problem is |
| 09:57 |
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|Lupin| |
I have to provide a feature to my librarian |
| 09:57 |
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|Lupin| |
so that she can generate a list of titles that have been added to the catalog recently |
| 09:57 |
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chris |
yep, a list of titles wont need changing anything |
| 09:57 |
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|Lupin| |
here recently means since the last list was generated |
| 09:57 |
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|Lupin| |
the change is to store the date of the last request |
| 09:58 |
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chris |
that will be in the sql |
| 09:58 |
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|Lupin| |
so that each request gives you the titles that have been added since the last time you have done the same action |
| 09:58 |
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chris |
i would just put it in the report |
| 09:58 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I don't understand what you mean, sorry |
| 09:59 |
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chris |
select * from items where dateaccessioned > '2009-06-30' and dateacessioned <= '2009-07-16' |
| 09:59 |
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chris |
the second date is today |
| 09:59 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: yes |
| 10:00 |
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|Lupin| |
but how do ou then remember the date of your last query ? |
| 10:00 |
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chris |
its saved |
| 10:00 |
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|Lupin| |
I don't want my librarian to have to enter dates by herself |
| 10:00 |
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chris |
when you make a report using guided reports |
| 10:00 |
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chris |
it saves it |
| 10:00 |
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chris |
in that case, you will probably need to install phpmyadmin |
| 10:00 |
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chris |
or write a script to do it for you |
| 10:01 |
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|Lupin| |
I see |
| 10:01 |
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chris |
its too dangerous to allow sql that changes the database to be pasted in |
| 10:01 |
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|Lupin| |
btw just one last question pls |
| 10:01 |
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nahuel |
hi all :) |
| 10:01 |
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|Lupin| |
what's the semantics of the accessionedate field, compared to the creatondate field in the biblio table ? |
| 10:02 |
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|Lupin| |
hi nahuel |
| 10:02 |
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chris |
one is at the item level |
| 10:02 |
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nahuel |
hi |Lupin| and chris :) |
| 10:02 |
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nahuel |
what's up ? |
| 10:02 |
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chris |
the biblio might have been created last year |
| 10:02 |
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chris |
you might have just got a new item tho |
| 10:02 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: right. So these two could have the same name ? |
| 10:03 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I was trying to figure out what accessionedate meant... |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
its a library term |
| 10:03 |
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|Lupin| |
ah |
| 10:03 |
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chris |
an item is accessioned when it is added to the catalogue |
| 10:03 |
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|Lupin| |
oh I didn't know |
| 10:03 |
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|Lupin| |
thanks much |
| 10:04 |
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chris |
comes from french, (as lots of english does) |
| 10:04 |
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|Lupin| |
yes ? |
| 10:05 |
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|Lupin| |
not sure from which word... |
| 10:05 |
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chris |
or maybe spanish |
| 10:05 |
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chris |
or latin :) |
| 10:05 |
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|Lupin| |
there is the word 'accession" but which is more from the legal field I'd say |
| 10:05 |
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chris |
it means to increase, to add something |
| 10:05 |
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|Lupin| |
ahah |
| 10:05 |
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|Lupin| |
probably not from french then |
| 10:06 |
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chris |
spanish i think actually |
| 10:06 |
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chris |
http://mw1.merriam-webster.com[…]tionary/accession |
| 10:06 |
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|Lupin| |
chris well from you NZ point of view french spanish and latin may be just one thing, seen from so far away |
| 10:06 |
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chris |
Accesión :) |
| 10:06 |
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|Lupin| |
ok |
| 10:07 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: anyway... many many thanks for your patience in helping |
| 10:07 |
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chris |
no problem |
| 10:20 |
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chris |
just about to hit the road gmcharlt ? |
| 10:20 |
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gmcharlt |
in a couple hours |
| 10:20 |
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gmcharlt |
Marlene wants to sleep in |
| 10:20 |
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Amit |
hi galen |
| 10:20 |
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chris |
ahh fair enough :) do you both drive? |
| 10:20 |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
| 10:21 |
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chris |
that's good, i wasnt much help when laurel and I drove from seattle to san diego |
| 10:23 |
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gmcharlt |
I got my license relatively late in life |
| 10:23 |
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gmcharlt |
when we moved to Alaska, at one point we were contemplating driving from Chicago to Anchorage |
| 10:24 |
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chris |
good grief |
| 10:24 |
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gmcharlt |
and Marlene put her foot down and told me to get my license |
| 10:25 |
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chris |
:) |
| 10:25 |
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gmcharlt |
as she didn't want to drive the 4,000 mlles all by herself :) |
| 10:25 |
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chris |
fair enough |
| 10:25 |
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gmcharlt |
we ended up flying, of course |
| 10:25 |
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chris |
i was ok between cities |
| 10:25 |
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chris |
but driving in the cities on the right freaked me out |
| 10:26 |
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|Lupin| |
till soon all, lunch time |
| 10:29 |
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chris |
http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp?g2_itemId=1527 |
| 10:29 |
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chris |
one of the highlights of our drive |
| 10:32 |
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Amit |
chris: this is your baby snap http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=11620 |
| 10:33 |
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chris |
thats our first son |
| 10:33 |
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Amit |
this is your second http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=69849 |
| 10:33 |
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Amit |
i think |
| 10:34 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: nice |
| 10:34 |
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chris |
yep amit |
| 10:34 |
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Amit |
nice baby |
| 10:34 |
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Amit |
chris: this is your snap http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=69840 |
| 10:35 |
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Amit |
chris: mummy papa & baby |
| 10:36 |
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chris |
yep all very tired |
| 11:02 |
|
Amit |
@wunder Delhi |
| 11:02 |
|
munin |
Amit: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:02 |
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Amit |
@wunder New Delhi |
| 11:02 |
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munin |
Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 36.0°C (4:00 PM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:03 |
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Amit |
@wunder Dehradun |
| 11:03 |
|
munin |
Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 32.0°C (2:30 PM IST on July 16, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.41 in 996 hPa. |
| 11:28 |
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paul_p |
hello Amit, chris & gmcharlt |
| 11:28 |
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paul_p |
(back from lunch) |
| 11:30 |
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chris |
heya paul_p |
| 11:31 |
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gmcharlt |
hihi paul_p |
| 11:34 |
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chris |
morning jwagner |
| 11:37 |
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jwagner |
Morning, chris. Hope that earthquake/tsunami wasn't anywhere near you! |
| 11:38 |
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Amit |
hi paul_p, jwagner |
| 11:38 |
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chris |
nope, nowhere near where anyone lives luckily |
| 11:38 |
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jwagner |
Good. One day I'm going to learn my way around NZ geography.... |
| 11:39 |
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jwagner |
Hi Amit |
| 11:40 |
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chris |
it was off the cost of the bottom of the south island |
| 11:40 |
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chris |
i live at the bottom of the north island |
| 11:40 |
|
chris |
cost=coast :) |
| 11:43 |
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jwagner |
I'd love to get to NZ one of these days. There's a chance I may be going to Australia in 2010 for a conference in Melbourne, but I'm really dubious about spending that long on a plane. Maybe when I retire & can take a cruise ship across the Pacific :-) |
| 11:45 |
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gmcharlt |
:) |
| 11:45 |
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ebegin |
morning #koha |
| 11:45 |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, ebegin. :) |
| 11:45 |
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gmcharlt |
though if it's in NZ, I'd like to see if we can manage a live video feed and lots of backchannel |
| 11:46 |
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jwagner |
Now if we could time Kohacon in NZ to match up with my thing in Melbourne, I could make a nice month-long trip :-) |
| 11:46 |
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jdavidb |
That would be very cool, gmcharlt. |
| 11:46 |
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gmcharlt |
I'll have to ping schuster and find out if any of the video he took at KohaCon came out |
| 11:47 |
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ebegin |
jwagner, you thing in Melbourne is the IFLA? |
| 11:48 |
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jwagner |
Nope, World Science Fiction Convention, Sept 2-6 http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/ |
| 11:49 |
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chris |
ebegin: IFLA has been cancelled |
| 11:49 |
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jwagner |
I used to be a regular con staff member for Worldcons, but "retired" from it several years ago. I had always wanted to go to one of the Aussiecons, though, so I'm tempted. |
| 11:49 |
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chris |
or at least, its not going to australia anymore |
| 11:49 |
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ebegin |
chris... you are serious?? |
| 11:50 |
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chris |
jwagner and jdavidb its looking like october 2010 |
| 11:50 |
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jwagner |
Hmmmmm........ |
| 11:50 |
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chris |
ebegin: yes, thats what i am hearing from some australian librians |
| 11:50 |
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chris |
i will try to find a link to confirm |
| 11:50 |
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jwagner |
jdavidb, I'm SURE they can do without both of us for a month, no??? |
| 11:50 |
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jdavidb |
Sure! :) |
| 11:50 |
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jdavidb |
We *might* have EBPL fully live by then... |
| 11:51 |
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ebegin |
you are right chris... http://www.ifla.org/en/news/if[…]in-brisbane-austr |
| 11:51 |
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chris |
yep |
| 11:51 |
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chris |
switzerland instead |
| 11:51 |
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chris |
oh no |
| 11:51 |
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chris |
sweden |
| 11:52 |
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chris |
http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]72.html?rssid=191 |
| 11:52 |
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chris |
gmcharlt: i think we can manage live video feed |
| 11:52 |
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ebegin |
@wunder goteborg, sweden |
| 11:52 |
|
munin |
ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:54 |
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kf |
live video feed would be great, I really learned to love twitter during texas kohacon |
