| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 18:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: it lives again |
| 18:03 |
|
pianohacker |
Cool, thanks |
| 18:04 |
|
tajoli |
Thank, I see the log now |
| 18:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
ryan: true, though I just got it all figured out lol :) |
| 18:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker: epic thanks |
| 18:15 |
|
pianohacker |
No problem, I've had my battles with jquery :) |
| 18:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
a cookbook type page for this kind of stuff might be helpful on the wiki |
| 18:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
maybe I'll start one |
| 18:21 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 18:21 |
|
pianohacker |
Good morning |
| 18:25 |
|
chris |
you wanted to know about column.def? |
| 18:27 |
|
pianohacker |
I was mainly going to ask if the Capitalized Column Names were an intentional convention, or an accidental one |
| 18:30 |
|
chris |
accidental, its only used by the guided reports, there really is no convention :) it was just a way to present the columns as nicer text than biblioitems.lccn etc |
| 18:30 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 18:30 |
|
chris |
and make them translatable |
| 18:30 |
|
pianohacker |
Were some of the columns in in from dev_week? Don't recognize them from 2.2 or 3.1 |
| 18:30 |
|
ebegin |
ls |
| 18:30 |
|
pianohacker |
* in there in |
| 18:31 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 18:43 |
|
Brendan |
Good afternoon koha |
| 18:45 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: That was a double-take moment; for a second, I thought nekls only had one copy of twilight |
| 18:49 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
why have i heard of leavenworth before? |
| 19:05 |
|
pianohacker |
US prison for court martialled soldiers, I think |
| 19:05 |
|
chris |
ahhhh that will be it |
| 19:05 |
|
chris |
from movies |
| 19:05 |
|
schuster |
Yep. |
| 19:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
jwagner: about? |
| 19:26 |
|
jwagner |
Yes |
| 19:26 |
|
jwagner |
Sort of.... |
| 19:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 19:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
will you have a chance some time this week to review some changes I'm making to the 007 plugin? |
| 19:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
turns out it needs some work to not choke the translator |
| 19:27 |
|
jwagner |
I can try -- what kind of changes? |
| 19:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
mostly reformatting to break up the long JavaScript that xgettext.pl doesn't like |
| 19:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
functionality should be identical otherwise |
| 19:28 |
|
jwagner |
OK, when you're ready let me know what I need to do. |
| 19:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
ok, off to catch the hypothermia bus, back in a bit |
| 19:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, I have another jquery question... say I want to select a div that only shows when in another div: example, I only want to add something to the .container div when it's in yui-main |
| 19:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
but it's a grandchild, not a child |
| 19:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
(i've looked at the examples, I don't get it) |
| 19:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
$('.yui-main .container'); # .yui-main must be an ancester, of any degree, of .container |
| 19:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
hmm... |
| 19:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
I did that but it's either not what I need or I'm doing it wrong. My goal is to get the purchase suggestion box to show both when logged in and when not logged in, with our special text/link additions |
| 19:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]=asdfasdfasdfasdf |
| 19:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
i.e. |
| 19:53 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Have you tried the AnonSuggestions syspref? |
| 19:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
but we don't want that |
| 19:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
:/ |
| 19:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
we want to make them log in |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Ohh, I see |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Never mind |
| 19:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, good idea though :) |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Is the purchase suggestion box even sent to the browser? If it's not there, can't be shown |
| 19:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, but the container that goes around it is |
| 19:57 |
|
pianohacker |
OK |
| 19:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
but... that container is used twice, I need to specify which |
| 19:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
i *thought* that galen's way would work, but... it doesn't |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
and I"m not sure why... my brain says it should |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
but i'm not a computer :P |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
If the structure of the page is pretty stable, you can use something like $('.container:eq(0)') to select the first one |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
Oh... yes... 0 is the index? |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
so if you want the 2nd, it's 1 |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
? |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
I believe it's stable |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
i suppose I could tack it onto different text there... maybe I'm going about it the hard way (entirely possible) |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
1s |
| 20:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
(but you gave me an idea!) |
| 20:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 20:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
lulz |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker: http://nekls.test.kohalibrary.[…]fasdfasdfasdfasdf |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
good idea! |
| 20:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
ty for leading me to it |
| 20:12 |
|
pianohacker |
No problem |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
back |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
if so, that explains why i cant edit stuff :) |
| 20:20 |
|
pianohacker |
Seems like an odd restriction, given that even adding things requires approval |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: started some work on doing a prototype of using template toolkit |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]Koha/Templates.pm |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]fs/heads/template |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
i plan do do the opac-main.pl to use it, and see if we like it or hate it |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
chris++ |
| 20:35 |
|
magnusenger |
TT sounds like a good idea! Haven't had the time to look much at Koha templates yet, but prefer the look of TT to what Koha is using today... |
| 20:36 |
|
pianohacker |
I should have some free time here pretty soon to try to make an H::T::P to TT convertor |
| 20:36 |
|
pianohacker |
From what I know of the languages, it should at least be possible |
| 20:36 |
|
chris |
yeah, at least a darn good start |
| 20:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: cool |
| 20:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
bbiab |
| 20:47 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
hi richard |
| 20:59 |
|
richard |
hey chris |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: can you ping me when you get back please/ |
| 21:17 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
chris : do you know if any usability testing has been done on Koha in the past? |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
yes there has been |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
katipo did some |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
but not in the last 5 years that i know of |
| 21:17 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
way back when, then... |
| 21:17 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
ok |
| 21:18 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
so we would need to start over if we wanted to do something along those lines |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
well there has been none done for 3.x afaik |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
and the UI is pretty much totally different |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
so yep |
| 21:19 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
I'd love to be able to do this |
| 21:20 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
see you tomorrow #koha |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
both russel and rachel have a lot of experience with usability testing, dropping them an email might be an idea |
| 21:20 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
ok, will do |
| 21:20 |
|
nicomo_laptop |
thanks |
| 21:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
NEKLS would be happy to help with that |
| 21:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
usability testing |
| 21:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
speaking of usability |
| 21:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
is there a reason why in the OPAC it shows the current location of the item in location, but the home branch's call number? |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
ohh reed has brought brownies to work JOY! |
| 21:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
shouldn't the two match? |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
do we store both? |
| 21:24 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: How do you mean? On what screen? |
| 21:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
1s, example inc. |
| 21:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
Chris: you can get them in the intranet |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
i guess we do then ;) |
| 21:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://nekls.test.kohalibrary.[…]iblionumber=47833 |
| 21:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
i know that you all probably wouldn't know the difference, but wellsville does not have a call number of JF MEYER |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
what is wrong with them? |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
ohh i can't spell |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
yep i see what you mean |
| 21:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
so, a patron could be standing in a library |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
i cant think of a reason why you wouldnt want the callnumber where it is actually shelved showing there |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
say to the staff "I'm looking for JF MEYER" |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
seems like a bug to me |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
and staff says "that's not our call number" |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
or "that's not in our library" |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
we thought the exact opposite |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
we figured that if a patron wanted to know if wellsville had a book, it should say "wellsville" and show wellsville's call number |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
yeah thats what i meant |
| 21:29 |
|
pianohacker |
There should really only be one call number per item |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
the status says where it is (if it's checked out, we don't care where it is b/c it's not available anyway" |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
pianohacker: ahh not in consortia |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I had a mind to fix it but I thought maybe someone would want a syspref to manage that |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
which I'm probably not competent to do |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
couldnt hurt |
| 21:30 |
|
pianohacker |
chris: It makes sense that it should be possible, but Koha can't store multiple call numbers per item, correct? |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
not that I'm aware of |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
i thought you said you could see it in the intranet? |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
you can, it's one of our custom changes |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
well, we can |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
oohhh |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
so you must be storing more than one then |
| 21:31 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah |
| 21:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't think so, we're only talking about the home location vs. current location |
| 21:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
not about call numbers |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
we broke pianohacker |
| 21:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
doh >.< |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
made him reboot |
| 21:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
i've been abusing his mind all day whilst battling jquery. |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
ok, right, so you have curernt and home branch .. yep thats in koha |
| 21:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
right |
| 21:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
just seems like whatever it is it should be consistent |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
yep, but how would it know what callnumber it should be if it is at wellsville |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
but the most logical way to me is to show the home location (holding branch/library) with its associated call number |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
both are attached to the item record |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
you would have to have one for every branch |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm... i don't think I'm being clear |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
for every item |
| 21:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
what we have in the opac is we show the item record, with it's home branch, and home call number |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
right |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
and you want to show current branch and current branch callnumber? |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
but there is no such thing as home callnumber and current branch callnumber ... just 1 callnnumber |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
so we would need to add callnumbers to all the items, 1 per branch |
| 21:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
what the opac is showing is CURRENT location (where it's been transferred to) and HOME call number |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
ohhh so |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
you just want homebranch to show? |
| 21:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
exactly |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
oh i think there might even be a syspref for that already |
| 21:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
I can't think of a reason anybody would want that combo, current location and home call number |
| 21:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
it would be so spectacular if there was |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
like pianohacker said, lots of libraries shelf in the same callnumber in all branches |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
so they wont have noticed the issue |
| 21:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
that's true |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
ahh there is one for circulation |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
but not for the opac |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
Used by Circulation to determine which branch of an item to check with independent branches on, and by search to determine which branch to choose for availability |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
ok, i reckon we need one in the Opac tab |
| 21:40 |
|
chris |
with the default set to holdingbranch .. so it works the same for everyone now, and you can switch that to homebranch |
| 21:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
right |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
can you do me a flavour wizzyrea |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
on your test one |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
toggle the HomeOrHoldingBranch to homebranch |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
and then refresh taht opac page |
| 21:48 |
|
chris |
i found this in the code |
| 21:48 |
|
chris |
# set item's branch name, use HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref first, fall back to the other one |
| 21:49 |
|
ryan |
imo, that should be considered a bug. if an item is not in its home location, the call number should not display. |
| 21:50 |
|
chris |
thats another way to do it too |
| 21:53 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea: might be best to file a bug |
| 21:53 |
|
chris |
be nice to have someway for people to tell from the opac that its not in its home location |
| 21:54 |
|
chris |
maybe callnumber should say "go ask a librarian, koha has no idea where this might be shelved" :-) |
| 21:55 |
|
chris |
http://eaves.ca/2009/05/26/why[…]r-in-open-source/ |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I honestly think that it should be a toggle for the OPAC. For systems that use uniform call numbers the default way works fine |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
homeorholdingbranch made no difference |
| 21:57 |
|
chris |
worth a try |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
i think a toggle is good too |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
probably good to file a bug, and see if you can get some comments on it |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
ryan: still enjoying the west coast? |
| 21:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think it's OK, since the availability is showing, that even if the item is checked out that the home location and home call number show, instead of current location. Patrons (at least ours) dont' care where it is now, they just want to know if they can have it. |
| 22:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'll file a bug |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 22:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok peps, ttyl |
| 22:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
thanks for all the help today |
| 22:06 |
|
ryan |
chris: even moreso now that the rainy season has passed :) |
| 22:08 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 22:08 |
|
Ricardo |
Hi everyone :) |
| 22:08 |
|
chris |
hi Ricardo |
| 22:08 |
|
Ricardo |
Chris: You're just the man I wanted to talk with! |
| 22:09 |
|
Ricardo |
I'm contributing to the translation of Koha to Portuguese... |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
sup? |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 22:09 |
|
Ricardo |
... but I'm a bit lost regarding the translation of the UNIMARC framework. The French one seems to be done in a different way / files than the one from Russia and Ukraine :-S |
| 22:10 |
|
chris |
ahh yeah |
| 22:10 |
|
Ricardo |
(I know the rest may be /should be translated through Pootle) |
| 22:10 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:10 |
|
Ricardo |
But Pootle does NOT cover the Framework, right? |
| 22:10 |
|
chris |
currently the framework isnt translatable in Pootle |
| 22:10 |
|
chris |
no |
| 22:11 |
|
Ricardo |
Right |
| 22:11 |
|
chris |
i would copy how the russian and ukranian ones are done |
| 22:11 |
|
Ricardo |
So, what's the recommended way of translating the framework? I'm guessing editing SQL files but, like I said, the French and the Russian/Ucrainian seem to be doing it differently |
| 22:12 |
|
Ricardo |
Hmmm.... OK. And how are those files "picked up" by Koha? For instance, "uk-UA" uses this: |
| 22:12 |
|
Ricardo |
(running "updatedb"... please wait) |
| 22:14 |
|
Ricardo |
File: /installer/data/mysql/ru-RU/marcflavour/unimarc/mandatory/unimarc_bibliographic_subfields_[DEFAULT].csv.sql |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:14 |
|
Ricardo |
How does Koha pick that one? I did a grep for unimarc_bibliographic_subfields and found nothing :-( |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
the installer does |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]76895d9904e8a9118 |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
basically you need to do that |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
make a pt-PT dir |
| 22:16 |
|
Ricardo |
Create a pt-PT under installer/data/mysql/ right? |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:17 |
|
chris |
and copy all the files from uk-UA or ru-RU |
| 22:17 |
|
Ricardo |
And is it correct to have files with Item Types "hardcoded" in the name, like the uk-UA has: |
| 22:18 |
|
Ricardo |
File: installer/data/mysql/uk-UA/marcflavour/unimarc/optional/unimarc_bibliographic_subfields_[BOOK].csv.sql |
| 22:18 |
|
Ricardo |
? |
| 22:18 |
|
chris |
those are for special frameworks for books |
| 22:18 |
|
chris |
doesnt hurt to have that in there |
| 22:19 |
|
chris |
makes it easier to see what it is ;) |
| 22:19 |
|
Ricardo |
Right. I gathered as much :) Doesn't that require the framework to be called "BOOK" as well, to work? |
| 22:20 |
|
Ricardo |
I'm guessing it does, from this: |
| 22:20 |
|
Ricardo |
INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (`tagfield`, `tagsubfield`, `liblibrarian`, `libopac`, `repeatable`, `mandatory`, `kohafield`, `tab`, `authorised_value`, `authtypecode`, `value_builder`, `isurl`, `hidden`, `frameworkcode`, `seealso`, `link`, `defaultvalue`) VALUES ('001','@','Ð?омер ідентифікації примітки','','0','0','','3','','','','0','1','BOOK','','','NULL'); |
| 22:20 |
|
Ricardo |
(frameworkcode = BOOK, if I'm reading this right) |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]ee0caa59bbcbcf8f3 |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:21 |
|
Ricardo |
My Ukrainian is a bit rusty, but thanks anyway! ;-) |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
looks like it makes those framworks |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
BOOK |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
PER |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
etc |
| 22:21 |
|
Ricardo |
Right |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
then populates each of them |
| 22:22 |
|
chris |
whereas in marc21 en |
| 22:22 |
|
chris |
we have one huge file that does both at once |
| 22:23 |
|
chris |
so you can do it either way really |
| 22:23 |
|
Ricardo |
It's the hard coding of the name in the frameworkcode that may cause me some trouble, but I guess that will do |
| 22:23 |
|
chris |
since you will probably be maintaining it, do it in whatever way makes more sense for you :) |
| 22:23 |
|
Ricardo |
So, if those files exist under "pt-PT", the installer will "automagically" work with it, or must I edit some code in the installer Perl code, in order for it to work? |
| 22:24 |
|
chris |
lemme check that, i hope its automagically but i will check |
| 22:24 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. Thanks. Waiting :) |
| 22:28 |
|
chris |
i see nothing specific in the code |
| 22:28 |
|
Ricardo |
Great... I guess I'll have long nights and afternoon... |
| 22:29 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 22:29 |
|
Ricardo |
Could you please do NOT consider the deadline the New Zealand time? You're many hours ahead of us! ;-) |
| 22:29 |
|
chris |
it will be french time :) |
| 22:29 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. Fair enough :) |
| 22:30 |
|
Ricardo |
I found it kind of funny then, when searching for Translation information in the wiki, I found this: |
| 22:30 |
|
Ricardo |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]owtotranslatekoha |
| 22:30 |
|
Ricardo |
Read that page :) |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 22:31 |
|
Ricardo |
I'm NOT any of those Portuguese / Brazilian guys, but I think that proves 2 things: |
| 22:31 |
|
Ricardo |
1 - We need to put some information about the translation process in the Wiki |
| 22:31 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:31 |
|
Ricardo |
2 - There's interest in the Portuguese community to have a Portuguese translation! :) |
| 22:32 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php#translation |
| 22:33 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: Right. There's where I found the "HowToTranslateKoha" page (the one with the Portuguese people asking for a Portuguese translation) |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
we should fill that area out a lot more |
| 22:33 |
|
Ricardo |
Ah! Agreed! |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
the first thing should be |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
email koha-translate |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
and introduce yourself |
| 22:34 |
|
chris |
because there may be people already working on things you want to work on |
| 22:34 |
|
Ricardo |
Maybe... Adding information about the mailing list "koha-translate" is vital, granted. |
| 22:34 |
|
Ricardo |
... but I would also add some information about Pootle. |
| 22:34 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:34 |
|
Ricardo |
Oh well, it's always easier to talk about things (like I'm doing now), than ACTUALLY doing them, right? ;-) |
| 22:36 |
|
Ricardo |
I think that's one of the reasons that prompted me to create the "INSTALL.opensuse" file / wiki page (I had problems installing Koha in openSUSE, saw people with some problems, and had the knowledge/experience to try to help. And some TIME too... NOW that's lacking now :( |
| 22:38 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]owtotranslatekoha |
| 22:38 |
|
chris |
theres a start |
| 22:38 |
|
Ricardo |
now THAT was quick! :) |
| 22:38 |
|
chris |
will try to add some more after work |
| 22:39 |
|
Ricardo |
Great Chris! |
| 22:39 |
|
Ricardo |
My gitweb skills are lame... |
| 22:40 |
|
Ricardo |
How do I find/search for the "user_flags.txt" file in gitweb? |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
use the tree links |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]gi?p=Koha;a=tree; |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
if you have some idea where it is anyway |
| 22:40 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: Right. That enables me to browse.... If I know the directory of the file that helps... |
| 22:41 |
|
Ricardo |
I'm guessing it's easier to find the file in my Linux installation than in gitweb then :-( |
| 22:41 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:41 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. Thanks for the feedback |
| 22:42 |
|
Ricardo |
Chris: Should the Portuguese translation be sent to the "3.0.x" branch? To HEAD? To both? |
| 22:43 |
|
chris |
of the frameworks? hmm both |
| 22:43 |
|
Ricardo |
Right ("of the frameworks"). OK. Thanks! :) |
| 22:44 |
|
Ricardo |
I think that, for some of the files, I will copy the english version instead (it's easier to translate and not that bad if I miss the translation of some terms...) |
| 22:46 |
|
chris |
sounds like a good idea to me |
| 22:47 |
|
Ricardo |
Hmm... Yes, thanks. There's a problem though. Filename differences: |
| 22:47 |
|
Ricardo |
"user_flags.txt" (uk-UA) Vs "userflags.txt" (en), for instance |
| 22:48 |
|
Ricardo |
Also "userpermissions.sql" that "uk-UA" has and "en" does NOT |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
im not sure it matters as long as the .sql and .txt files have the same filename |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
also if it turns out it does |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
git mv is easy :) |
| 22:48 |
|
Ricardo |
You're the git guru. Not me! :) |
| 22:49 |
|
Ricardo |
I just "get around" git |
| 22:49 |
|
Ricardo |
I'm only one step above "git newbie" |
| 22:49 |
|
chris |
git mv oldname somenewname |
| 22:49 |
|
chris |
done :) |
| 22:49 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. Thanks for the tip! :) |
| 22:55 |
|
Ricardo |
Shoud I add: |
| 22:55 |
|
Ricardo |
set NAMES 'utf8'; |
| 22:56 |
|
Ricardo |
at the top of my .sql framework files? |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
hmm that im not sure about, but yeah, i reckon so |
| 22:57 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. Thanks |
| 23:01 |
|
pianohacker |
Ricardo: Confirmed from source that you do. The installation module does not do SET NAMES utf8, though the rest of koha does |
| 23:02 |
|
Ricardo |
pianohacker: Thanks for the info. So, I should ADD it at the top of my .sql files, right? |
| 23:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 23:03 |
|
Ricardo |
pianohacker: Cool. Thanks! :) |
| 23:03 |
|
pianohacker |
++ for translation, by the way |
| 23:05 |
|
Ricardo |
pianohacker: Right. At least, for the SQL files that have "weird" characters in it (accented and/or foreign characters) |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
yeah, it doesnt hurt to do it for everything anway |
| 23:05 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 23:05 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: OK :) |
| 23:07 |
|
Ricardo |
BRB |
| 23:17 |
|
Ricardo |
Back |
| 23:19 |
|
Ricardo |
Are there any mandatory files for the translation to work (I mean, NOT to crash Koha)? |
| 23:19 |
|
Ricardo |
(regarding the files under /installer/data/mysql I mean) |
| 23:20 |
|
pianohacker |
I think the only language-dependent, mandatory files are the framework definitions |
| 23:20 |
|
chris |
the mandatory ones maybe? |
| 23:20 |
|
chris |
im not sure actually |
| 23:20 |
|
chris |
translating frameworks is a new(ish) thing |
| 23:20 |
|
Ricardo |
pianohacker / chris: OK. Thanks. If Koha 3.02 crashes hard, you'll know I'm the one to blame! ;-) |
| 23:20 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:29 |
|
Ricardo |
Hmmm... The French translation has authorities SQL files for MARC21 but not for UNIMARC: |
| 23:30 |
|
Ricardo |
FILE: /blib/INTRANET_CGI_DIR/installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire/authorities_normal_marc21.sql |
| 23:30 |
|
Ricardo |
Is this to be expected? :-S |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
authorities work totally different in UNIMARC |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
maybe they dont use that file |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
you would want to talk the french guys about that |
| 23:31 |
|
Ricardo |
Could be... This is looking darker and darker by the minute... |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
i would also suggest emailing Andrei |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
pm'd you the email address |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
he did hte UK and RU translations |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
and has excellent english |
| 23:32 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: OK. Thanks for the info :) |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
so he might be a good source of help |
| 23:32 |
|
Ricardo |
Right |
| 23:34 |
|
Ricardo |
BRB |
| 23:56 |
|
Ricardo |
Back |
| 23:57 |
|
Ricardo |
Furiously translating authority tags :) |
| 00:31 |
|
Ricardo |
OK. It's WAY past my bed time now (1H30 AM here in Lisbon). I need to go to sleep. |
| 00:31 |
|
Ricardo |
Chris and pianohacker: Thank you very much for helping! :) |
| 00:31 |
|
pianohacker |
No problem, thanks for translating |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
sleep well |
| 00:31 |
|
Ricardo |
pianohacker: You're welcome :) |
| 00:31 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: Thanks! |
| 00:31 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: What's the time now there? |
| 00:32 |
|
chris |
12.32 pm |
| 00:32 |
|
Ricardo |
chris: OK. Have a nice lunch, then! ;-) |
| 00:32 |
|
Ricardo |
Cheers! :) |
| 00:33 |
|
chris |
thanks :) |
| 00:35 |
|
Ricardo |
Bye! |
| 00:49 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night, #koha |
| 03:26 |
|
Amit |
hi brendan, chris mason good morning |
| 03:26 |
|
Amit |
hi hdl good morning |
| 03:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi Amit |
| 03:28 |
|
Jo |
morning AMit |
| 03:29 |
|
Amit |
hi jo good morning |
| 03:46 |
|
brendan |
heya Amit |
| 03:50 |
|
Amit |
heya brendan |
| 04:57 |
|
mason |
mornign amit |
| 05:02 |
|
Amit |
hi mason after long time |
| 05:50 |
|
Amit |
hi honey |
| 05:50 |
|
honey |
hi Amit |
| 07:48 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 07:48 |
|
indradg |
chris, around? |
| 07:49 |
|
kf |
hi Amit and indradg |
| 07:49 |
|
indradg |
hi kf |
| 07:54 |
|
chris |
hi indradg |
| 07:54 |
|
chris |
ltns |
| 08:02 |
|
indradg |
chris, yep.. lots of changes... but now getting back to old things that i really knew for a change :D |
| 08:08 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 08:25 |
|
Amit |
hi nicomo, paul |
| 08:32 |
|
chris |
hi hdl_laptop |
| 08:37 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 11:20 |
|
chris |
hmm must be nearly bedtime i think |
| 11:30 |
|
chris |
hi jwagner and bye |
| 11:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
good morning all |
| 11:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
(and g'night chris) |
| 11:33 |
|
jwagner |
Good morning and good night! |
| 11:35 |
|
Amit |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:35 |
|
Amit |
hi jwagner |
| 11:35 |
|
jwagner |
Hi Amit. |
| 11:51 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi hdl_laptop |
| 11:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi Amit |
