| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:19 |
|
nengard |
okay spelling question - is it: anonymize or anonomize ?? neither is in the dictionary - and we use them both |
| 12:22 |
|
nicomo |
anonymize (see anonymity) |
| 12:23 |
|
nicomo |
I think |
| 12:24 |
|
nengard |
nicomo i thought so too |
| 12:29 |
|
paul |
hdl, est-ce que l'anti spam est bien en route sur le netserver ? Parce que je recois des zillions de mails "euro dice casino" depuis quelques temps. |
| 12:29 |
|
paul |
ca lasse... |
| 12:29 |
|
paul |
(et aussi des "pillules bon marche", et autres trucs du même genre) |
| 12:37 |
|
js |
depuis que tu as annoncé que ta famille etait assez grande, j ai fait passé le message paul ;) |
| 12:38 |
|
paul |
oups... sorry, I thought I was on another channel... |
| 13:08 |
|
slef |
c'est pas grave |
| 13:09 |
|
slef |
c'est assez interessant pour moi ;-) |
| 13:09 |
|
slef |
nengard: y |
| 13:09 |
|
nengard |
thanks slef - i found it in a different dictionary |
| 13:10 |
|
slef |
nengard: I have a collins paper dictionary on my desk |
| 13:11 |
|
slef |
BTW, I'm in a world of pain today. One server with a reinstall when I was expecting an upgrade, another server defaced (I'd been telling its owner we needed to take it offline for a security upgrade). Send sympathy here. ;-) |
| 13:11 |
|
slef |
So sorry if I'm short/late/grumpy. |
| 13:11 |
|
kados |
slef: you, grumpy? ;-) |
| 13:12 |
|
slef |
kados: I'm usually cheerful but short/abrupt. |
| 13:12 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 13:13 |
|
slef |
I'm sure there's a reason why I don't usually do this ;-) |
| 14:07 |
|
hdl |
hug to slef. |
| 14:21 |
|
slef |
thanks... it's the reinstall I'm more miffed about... last time that customer got defaced was December 2004, which I don't think is a bad innings |
| 15:14 |
|
cnighs |
paul about? |
| 15:14 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 15:14 |
|
paul |
hi cnighs |
| 15:15 |
|
cnighs |
hi paul, could you help me understand the relationships between the serial and serialitems tables? |
| 15:15 |
|
paul |
hdl could be more helpfull here I think |
| 15:15 |
|
paul |
hdl ? |
| 15:16 |
|
hdl |
hi cnighs |
| 15:16 |
|
cnighs |
hello hdl |
| 15:16 |
|
hdl |
ryan designed this. |
| 15:17 |
|
hdl |
In order to be able to receive, afaik, multiple items of an issue. |
| 15:17 |
|
hdl |
Why do you ask ? |
| 15:18 |
|
hdl |
So It is a 1 to many relation |
| 15:18 |
|
hdl |
1 serial many itemnumber |
| 15:18 |
|
cnighs |
currently things break when attempting to receive duplicate items of a particular issue of a given serial |
| 15:18 |
|
cnighs |
ie. a library has two copies of the same issue of a magazine |
| 15:20 |
|
cnighs |
this appears to be because AddItem2Serial attempts to insert a duplicate value into serialitems.serialid |
| 15:21 |
|
cnighs |
1 serial to many itemnumber is what I was looking to confirm, though |
| 15:22 |
|
cnighs |
tnx hdl, paul |
| 15:25 |
|
paul |
(clicking on the menu does nothing at all) |
| 15:26 |
|
paul |
(renew patron & delete works fine, only set permission unreachable) |
| 15:26 |
|
paul |
mmm... gotcha |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
if the librarian don't have permission to set permissions, the link is here, but un-clickable |
| 15:48 |
|
ryan |
cnighs: actually, serialitems is supposed to be 1-1 short term, and was added to avoid having to change the items table, as well as future functionality of 1-n relation. |
| 15:48 |
|
ryan |
but for 3.0, there should be 1-1 relation. |
| 15:51 |
|
cnighs |
ryan: so for 3.0 if I have two copies of the same issue of the same magazine, I cannot have two corresponding serialitems? |
| 15:52 |
|
ryan |
cnighs: there _shouldn't_ be a problem, but the functionality to create the items doesn't exist. |
| 16:59 |
|
saorge |
which MARC21 fields must be filled to add an item when I import a bibliographic records via bulkmarkimport? |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
saorge: check your framework, normally 952 |
| 18:22 |
|
saorge |
kados: thanks! |
| 18:24 |
|
saorge |
finally, it was a problem from my MARC file, some subfields were missing |
| 19:31 |
|
hdl |
what are those minus meant for in addbiblio.tmpl ? |
| 19:31 |
|
pianohacker |
hdl: There's minus buttons for some tags to remove them from the record |
| 19:32 |
|
hdl |
hi pianohacker have we ever met ? |
| 19:32 |
|
pianohacker |
hdl: I don't think so; I recognize you from the irc regulars wiki page, but I'm Jesse Weaver from LibLime |
| 19:33 |
|
hdl |
nice to meet you. |
| 19:33 |
|
pianohacker |
you too |
| 19:33 |
|
hdl |
hdl Henri-Damien LAURENT from biblibre. |
| 19:33 |
|
pianohacker |
Are those the minus buttons you meant? |
| 19:34 |
|
hdl |
yes. But it doesnot seem to do anything on blank record. |
| 19:35 |
|
pianohacker |
I know there are some tags that are mandatory and thus deleteable |
| 19:35 |
|
pianohacker |
and if you remove the last instance of a tag, you can't put anything in (blank tags are ignored) |
| 19:37 |
|
hdl |
seemed strange to me to see so many -. |
| 19:37 |
|
hdl |
Since both fields and subfields can be deleted. |
| 19:38 |
|
hdl |
But acknowledge it is really cool. |
| 19:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: if a given field/subfield input box is the last instance, clicking minus clears it instead of removing the input form |
| 19:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: otherwise, you wouldn't be able to add it back without reloading the form |
| 19:44 |
|
hdl |
ok. |
| 20:08 |
|
su-erin |
any tips for trouble shooting this upgrade from .064 to .094 on ubuntu 7.10: Can't open blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd for read at rewrite-config.PL line 168. |
| 20:09 |
|
su-erin |
trying to get the test server upgraded so we can continue configuring it once, well once "paper work" is done |
| 20:09 |
|
hdl |
su-erin: normally, you only have to use the webupgrade. |
| 20:10 |
|
su-erin |
hdl: i still have SO much too learn... sorry |
| 20:10 |
|
hdl |
np |
| 20:12 |
|
su-erin |
hdl: where is the webupgrade interface? |
| 20:12 |
|
hdl |
go to intranet. |
| 20:13 |
|
hdl |
And you are prompted to webupgrade. |
| 20:13 |
|
su-erin |
where does it propmt you? |
| 20:21 |
|
hdl |
it leads you to webinstaller. |
| 20:21 |
|
hdl |
You have to enter your login/password. |
| 20:21 |
|
hdl |
and then go through update. |
| 20:39 |
|
slef |
su-erin: it usually appears instead of the login screen. |
| 20:40 |
|
slef |
su-erin: what command produces the above error? |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
ata marie |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
(maori language week here in nz this week) |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
hi liz |
| 20:59 |
|
liz |
hiyas |
| 21:07 |
|
adamaix |
hi |
| 21:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi adamix |
| 21:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
admaix, rather |
| 21:09 |
|
adamaix |
no worries :p ,I have to say, koha is probably one of the most promising opensource library application |
| 21:10 |
|
adamaix |
been trying now for the past three days getting it to work on freebsd, though |
| 21:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
what's the issue? |
| 21:11 |
|
chris |
3.0.0rc1 adamaix? |
| 21:11 |
|
adamaix |
yep |
| 21:12 |
|
adamaix |
i've got all the perl libraries installed, most of them via the perl ports collection |
| 21:12 |
|
atz_ |
adamaix: nobody's tried bsds yet, afaik |
| 21:12 |
|
adamaix |
some of the libraries weren't available in the ports, so i retrieved them from MCPAN |
| 21:12 |
|
slef |
adamaix: come on, if I can get it working on osx, freebsd should be doable (modulo mysqladmin shell evilness by the installer *glares*) |
| 21:13 |
|
adamaix |
i was reading the osx documentation :p |
| 21:13 |
|
slef |
There's osx documentation? |
| 21:13 |
|
slef |
;) |
| 21:13 |
|
chris |
slef just hammers madly on the keyboard and sometimes it works :) |
| 21:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: you mean the documentation you're writing, correct? ;) |
| 21:14 |
|
adamaix |
stuck here > http://pastebin.com/m22241a7d |
| 21:14 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: I don't see what documentation it needs... just use apt-get and cpan install and it works. |
| 21:15 |
|
adamaix |
i've seen a fwe issues similer to this on the list |
| 21:15 |
|
slef |
adamaix: got PERL5LIB set and exported |
| 21:15 |
|
slef |
? |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
oh, failing tests .. thats pretty much a given, the test suite is still a work in progress |
| 21:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
adamix: in the full test log, does the 'Can't connect to data source' error occur every time it complains about failing to compile modules? |
| 21:22 |
|
adamaix |
yes |
| 21:22 |
|
adamaix |
i've run export PERL5LIB="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8" and make test again |
| 21:22 |
|
adamaix |
same error |
| 21:23 |
|
slef |
apt-get install $(sed -n -e "/PREREQ_PM =/,/}/{;s/^[ ']*//;s/::/-/g;s/'.*\$/-pm588/;/-.*-pm588/p;}" Makefile.PL | tr A-Z a-z) |
| 21:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Oh my god |
| 21:23 |
|
atz_ |
adamaix: PERL5LIB is supposed to be your koha repo |
| 21:23 |
|
slef |
(I don't recommend that, but I just wanted to share it) |
| 21:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
adamaix: in your installation directory, does blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml exist? if so, could you pastebin the last 20 lines or so of it (excluding your db password, of course) |
| 21:24 |
|
adamaix |
yes |
| 21:28 |
|
adamaix |
http://pastebin.com/m35e36159 |
| 21:29 |
|
adamaix |
earliy i've tried setting the enviroment variables as specified in the error |
| 21:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok, there's part of your problem - when you do a 'make' prior to running 'make test', it should have substituted in the correct values in place of the __DB_NAME__, etc placeholders |
| 21:31 |
|
adamaix |
ah, that make sense, so should i try manually editing the file? |
| 21:31 |
|
atz_ |
no, it will take you forever to edit everything |
| 21:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
adamaix: first try 'make blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml' and see if it gives you a message about running rewrite-config.PL |
| 21:34 |
|
adamaix |
usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" rewrite-config.PL blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml |
| 21:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok, progress, so far - did it actually change the file? |
| 21:35 |
|
adamaix |
yeah! :) |
| 21:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok, if you grep for rewrite-config.PL you'll get the other 15-odd files to run 'make foo' on - afterwards, 'make test' should run |
| 21:37 |
|
adamaix |
i see its all the default information in koha-conf.xml, though |
| 21:40 |
|
adamaix |
ah, i have to prefix rewrite-config.PL |
| 21:41 |
|
adamaix |
k, we makeing progress |
| 21:44 |
|
slef |
46 even |
| 21:44 |
|
slef |
48... final offer... going once, going twice |
| 21:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
SOLD! |
| 22:17 |
|
slef |
anyone know who jayadevkumbar is? |
| 22:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: I don't |
| 22:18 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: he appears to control the koha group on linkedin.com |
| 22:18 |
|
slef |
he/she/it |
| 22:18 |
|
chris |
yes, i noticed that |
| 22:18 |
|
chris |
whoever creates it first, controls it :) |
| 22:19 |
|
slef |
not according to their faq |
| 22:20 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 22:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
is he not responding to join requests? |
| 22:21 |
|
slef |
not for me yet - anyone here joined successfully? |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
not yet |
| 22:21 |
|
slef |
chris: applied? |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 22:21 |
|
chris |
yesterday |
| 22:21 |
|
slef |
ok, let's give him a while longer |
| 22:22 |
|
slef |
actually |
| 22:22 |
|
slef |
I'll search the lists first |
| 22:22 |
|
slef |
ho ho... one invite-spam to koha.lists.katipo and that's all |
| 22:23 |
|
chris |
i see some mail from him |
| 22:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: and a couple actual questions on 3 March, it looks like |
| 22:23 |
|
chris |
Subject: [Koha] how to change the year in the source |
| 22:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
I've sent in my group join request as well |
| 22:23 |
|
chris |
windows user it looks like |
| 22:25 |
|
slef |
http://article.gmane.org/gmane[…]mp.misc.koha/8350 was all I found |
| 22:25 |
|
slef |
ah, surname is kumbar |
| 22:25 |
|
slef |
not devkumbar |
| 22:26 |
|
slef |
I suck at asian names. |
| 22:26 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 22:41 |
|
eric |
err; likes |
| 22:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
hee - I wonder how many times thats actually been used |
| 22:43 |
|
eric |
Maybe on some NASA reports... who knows |
| 22:44 |
|
chris |
astronomy books |
| 22:44 |
|
chris |
maybe |
| 22:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
presumably not as place of publication though - 7xx isn't for topics |
| 22:44 |
|
chris |
starcharts and the like |
| 22:44 |
|
chris |
true |
| 22:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
starcharts though makes sense, at least based on my reading of the MARC21 manual |
| 22:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
"name of community served" |
| 22:46 |
|
eric |
Here is the full info about this field |
| 22:46 |
|
eric |
Name of any extraterrestrial entity or space and includes solar systems, galaxies, star systems, and planets as well as geographic features of individual planets, etc. Subfield $h may be repeated for hierarchies when multiple levels are given, retaining the order highest-to-lowest |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
ahh the chown's and chmods dont respect DESTDIR |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
that makes making a package hard |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
cos we install the man pages to DESTINSTALLMAN1DIR |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
but then chown them at ) chown -R koha:koha $(KOHA_DEST_MAN_DIR) |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
so if we have $DESTDIR set that breaks |
| 00:13 |
|
chris |
another thing for the todo list |
| 00:28 |
|
slef |
ooh drat - Image::Magick just ate my internet connection |
| 00:40 |
|
chris |
http://apt.workbuffer.org/main[…]pan-libkoha-perl/ |
| 00:40 |
|
chris |
first cut |
| 00:41 |
|
chris |
the things i do when i should be eating lunch :) |
| 00:41 |
|
chris |
(its set up to just do all the defaults ie, if i just wailed on return when running perl Makefile.PL |
| 00:41 |
|
chris |
) |
| 04:10 |
|
cnighs |
ever, also |
| 04:12 |
|
cnighs |
seems insanely long |
| 04:14 |
|
chris |
yeah someone complained once the default was too short |
| 04:14 |
|
chris |
now its way to long |
| 04:15 |
|
chris |
600 seems like a good time |
| 04:15 |
|
chris |
if you work more than 10 hours in a day |
| 04:16 |
|
chris |
then an enforced break is like a health and saftey requirement :) |
| 04:33 |
|
cnighs |
I just set it to 21600 which should be 6 hours |
| 04:33 |
|
cnighs |
actually my computer should lock me out at 12am for at least 6 hours ;-) |
| 04:34 |
|
cnighs |
for health and safety reasons... |
| 04:42 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 04:54 |
|
nrp |
hello all. I'm having trouble using zebra on a koha 3.0 RC1 install on ubuntu. searches don't return anything, and koha-zebradaemon-output.log shows Search biblios ERROR 109 for every search. |
| 04:58 |
|
nrp |
some list posts suggest its a database error, but I don't know how to fix it. I tried running rebuild_zebra.pl, but it just returns without saying anything |
| 05:05 |
|
nrp |
ooh, ok. got rebuild_zebra.pl to run by sticking a use lib "/usr/share/koha/lib"; in it, and it says it indexed stuff, but the search still doesn't return anything and the log still gives ERROR 109 |
| 05:08 |
|
nrp |
rebuild_zebra.pl spits out the following: http://pastebin.ca/1080383 |
| 06:30 |
|
nrp |
weew! fixed it |
| 07:53 |
|
chris |
hi lloyd |
