| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:55 |
|
fbcit |
g'morning koha |
| 13:03 |
|
fbcit |
chris around? |
| 13:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi fbcit |
| 13:07 |
|
fbcit |
hey gmcharlt |
| 13:08 |
|
fbcit |
you're here early :) |
| 13:08 |
|
fbcit |
do you know if there is any place in the staff client that patron images are displayed? |
| 13:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah, that would be one place for it |
| 13:15 |
|
fbcit |
~ line 372 |
| 13:15 |
|
fbcit |
if borrowerimages subdir were added to the repo, installer should pick up on it and create it, right? |
| 13:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
looks like patron images are pulled in through Javascript, so wouldn't be much reference to them in code |
| 13:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
creating directory, possibly adding it to map in Makefile.PL and sticking a blank REAME file in it should do it |
| 13:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
issue is that permissions need to be set up so that Apache user (e.g., www-data) can write to the directory |
| 13:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
so would need to put in instructions about setting permissions or ACLs, etc. |
| 13:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
or else sidestep the issue by storing the images as BLOBs in MySQL |
| 13:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
anyway, gotta to start shoveling snow -- bbiab |
| 13:20 |
|
fbcit |
:) |
| 13:59 |
|
[K] |
*** join #koha FreeNode: Comete n=Cometekrypton.saint-lo.fr |
| 14:48 |
|
fbcit |
hey atz |
| 14:49 |
|
atz |
greets fbcit |
| 14:53 |
|
fbcit |
atz: Have a good vacation? |
| 14:58 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 14:58 |
|
fbcit |
hi hdl |
| 14:58 |
|
hdl |
anyone working on Fines or Overdues around ? |
| 15:15 |
|
slef |
hi all - should MARC21 be listed in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/z3950servers.tmpl? Is USMARC standing in for it? |
| 15:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: I believe that USMARC is what the record syntax is still called for Z39.50 purposes |
| 15:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
self: but the label could be changed to USMARC/MARC21 or somesuch |
| 15:19 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: ANSI slow to update? It would be good if we can change the user-visible label, as I've just had another new koha librarian ask me about it. |
| 15:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: I'll make a patch to change the user-visible label unless you want |
| 15:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
want to, rather |
| 15:20 |
|
slef |
I've all the files open, so I may as well |
| 15:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok, thanks |
| 15:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: question about ISO-5426 -- is it equivalent to just the ANSEL part of MARC-8, or does it (or a related ISO standard) include the MARC-8 encodes for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc.? |
| 15:23 |
|
hdl |
only ANSEL part of MARC-8 |
| 15:24 |
|
hdl |
I got the hash from marc4j. |
| 15:25 |
|
hdl |
I belive we could investiguate and build up a better hash. |
| 15:25 |
|
hdl |
Have you tested that on some data ? |
| 15:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: thanks. I wonder if there's a way to get MARC::Charset to convert just ANSEL |
| 15:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: tried in context of Z39.50 searches of LC -- when encoding is ISO-5426, conversion seems to not handle the diacritics correctly |
| 15:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
setting encoding to MARC-8 (which uses MARC::Charset) seems to work better |
| 15:27 |
|
hdl |
On BNF encoding, it works well for diacritics. |
| 15:27 |
|
hdl |
And they claim to have biblios encoded in ISO5426. |
| 15:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
'BNF' is the French national library's Z39.50 server? |
| 15:29 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 15:30 |
|
hdl |
And marc8_to_utf8 failed on that. |
| 15:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: what's a good word for a title search of BNF? |
| 15:32 |
|
hdl |
http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavig[…]frame/infopro.htm |
| 15:32 |
|
hdl |
Les misérables |
| 15:33 |
|
hdl |
or ISBN :2020224526 |
| 15:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: alas, that server is not accepting connections at the moment |
| 15:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: do you know of another French Z39.50 server that works in the same way as BNF? |
| 15:40 |
|
hdl |
SUDOC |
| 15:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
i.e., carmin.sudoc.abes.fr? |
| 15:41 |
|
hdl |
http://www.abes.fr/abes/page,439,mode-public.html |
| 15:41 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 15:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: today just isn't my lucky day -- that one is not accepting my connections |
| 15:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: ok, found one I can connect to: Univ. de Rennes |
| 15:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
http://irspy.indexdata.com/ful[…]fr%3A210%2Frennes |
| 15:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
do diacritics look correct for you if encoding is set to ISO-5426 (they don't for me, but MARC-8 does work for me) |
| 16:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: more info -- for Rennes Z39.50 server (ti=chat) diacritics still look wrong in ISO_5426 mode when code is at currently 3.0 -- i.e., without my charset patch of yesterday |
| 16:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: do they look correct to you? |
| 16:01 |
|
hdl |
trying now |
| 16:07 |
|
hdl |
Etude comparée du comptage des éosinophiles chez le chien et chez le chat par un automate à variation d'impédance l'Hemavet 950 (Drew Scientific) et deux méthodes manuelles |
| 16:07 |
|
hdl |
looks right for me. |
| 16:09 |
|
hdl |
But it comes from SUDOC. |
| 16:09 |
|
hdl |
ARTUS seems to be USMARC. |
| 16:09 |
|
hdl |
(No Title) |
| 16:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: I guess I'll have to try my testing later when BNF or SUDOC start accepting connections from me |
| 16:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: in meantime, if you could check whether my charset patch breaks anything for your testing of BNF or SUDOC, I'd appreciate it |
| 16:25 |
|
hdl |
can you send it to me ? |
| 16:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: I've e-mailed it to you |
| 16:30 |
|
hdl |
Patch doesnot apply on ImportBatch.pm |
| 16:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: sorry missed a preceding patch -- will e-mail it to you |
| 16:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: sent |
| 16:45 |
|
hdl |
http://pastebin.com/md4f35f6 |
| 16:45 |
|
hdl |
It doesnot work. |
| 16:47 |
|
hdl |
:( |
| 16:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: what happens when you set z3950servers.encoding to 'MARC-8' and search again? |
| 16:58 |
|
hdl |
It Breaks. |
| 16:58 |
|
hdl |
But ISO_5426 works. |
| 17:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: so if I understsand correctly, with my patch, ISO_5426 still works for the SUDOC server? |
| 17:00 |
|
hdl |
(testing on BNF only) |
| 17:01 |
|
hdl |
But I still have some problems : |
| 17:01 |
|
hdl |
Éd. du Seuil |
| 17:01 |
|
hdl |
Should be Éd. du Seuil |
| 17:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: the diacritic is not coming across in my IRC channel -- what is the name of it? |
| 17:02 |
|
hdl |
Capital E Acute |
| 17:11 |
|
hdl |
gmcharlt: Have you worked on Authorities ? |
| 17:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: still in process -- the authorities indexing I posted about on koha-devel is part of it |
| 17:14 |
|
hdl |
I sent a patch which allowed authid to be user defined subfield. |
| 17:14 |
|
hdl |
Have you seen it ? |
| 17:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: not yet, but sounds useful |
| 17:15 |
|
hdl |
I cannot see this post any more. |
| 17:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
which one -- the authorities indexing one? |
| 17:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
gmcharlt-- # missed that BNF requires a username and password |
| 17:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: I just sent you another patch -- should fix invocation of ISO_5426 conversion from a Z39.50 search |
| 17:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: found big difference between ISO-5426 and MARC-8: the combining cedilla is \xD0 in 5426, \xF0 in MARC-8 ANSEL |
| 17:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl: now I know why MARC::Charset doesn't work for it |
| 18:02 |
|
atz |
whoa.... microsoft buys yahoo for $44 Billion ?! |
| 18:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: is the deal complete? |
| 18:06 |
|
atz |
just a bid right now... but a rather persuasive one, I'd say |
| 18:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
nah, Yahoo should hold out for more ;) |
| 18:17 |
|
slef |
US+EU regulators will call it in anyway |
| 18:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: by that you mean kill the deal on antitrust concerns? hope the EU regulators would do so; I'm not so sure about US |
| 18:19 |
|
slef |
either way, just the delay may mean that if Yahoo agrees then if it is blocked/obstructed too much, Yahoo will tailspin and be bought by someone else |
| 18:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
yep, it's possible |
| 18:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
I haven't been following Yahoo -- has it been on the way down recently? |
| 18:21 |
|
slef |
no, but doesn't seem to have been on the up like google |
| 18:21 |
|
slef |
and microsoft are big anyway |
| 18:22 |
|
slef |
I don't know what analysts think about Wikia Search - it's possible that they reckon it will shift one of the top 4, as Jimmy Wales has media buzz |
| 18:24 |
|
slef |
Yahoo's last results were down, apparently, but even google disappointed |
| 18:24 |
|
slef |
from a libraries point of view, it's sort of disappointing that the big properties are mostly search |
| 18:25 |
|
slef |
then again, if you are a successful non-proprietary search, you won't appear in the list of top properties that the media often quote |
| 18:27 |
|
atz |
anybody know the ppl behind "Alpha-G" consulting that is apparently working to deploy evergreen ? |
| 18:27 |
|
atz |
spinoff from equinox? |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: the principal John Craig appears to have been a Dynix; looks like he left it to found Alpha-G before Sirsi bought it |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
a Dynix guy, rather |
| 18:31 |
|
atz |
interesting |
| 18:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
he has a pretty detailed profile on LinkedIn |
| 19:42 |
|
fbcit |
is there a quick way to grab a member's cardnumber based on borrowernumber? |
| 08:38 |
|
chris |
evening |
