Time Nick Message 12:55 fbcit g'morning koha 13:03 fbcit chris around? 13:07 gmcharlt hi fbcit 13:07 fbcit hey gmcharlt 13:08 fbcit you're here early :) 13:08 fbcit do you know if there is any place in the staff client that patron images are displayed? 13:14 gmcharlt yeah, that would be one place for it 13:15 fbcit ~ line 372 13:15 fbcit if borrowerimages subdir were added to the repo, installer should pick up on it and create it, right? 13:17 gmcharlt looks like patron images are pulled in through Javascript, so wouldn't be much reference to them in code 13:18 gmcharlt creating directory, possibly adding it to map in Makefile.PL and sticking a blank REAME file in it should do it 13:18 gmcharlt issue is that permissions need to be set up so that Apache user (e.g., www-data) can write to the directory 13:18 gmcharlt so would need to put in instructions about setting permissions or ACLs, etc. 13:19 gmcharlt or else sidestep the issue by storing the images as BLOBs in MySQL 13:20 gmcharlt anyway, gotta to start shoveling snow -- bbiab 13:20 fbcit :) 13:59 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: Comete n=Comete@krypton.saint-lo.fr 14:48 fbcit hey atz 14:49 atz greets fbcit 14:53 fbcit atz: Have a good vacation? 14:58 hdl hi 14:58 fbcit hi hdl 14:58 hdl anyone working on Fines or Overdues around ? 15:15 slef hi all - should MARC21 be listed in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/z3950servers.tmpl? Is USMARC standing in for it? 15:18 gmcharlt slef: I believe that USMARC is what the record syntax is still called for Z39.50 purposes 15:19 gmcharlt self: but the label could be changed to USMARC/MARC21 or somesuch 15:19 slef gmcharlt: ANSI slow to update? It would be good if we can change the user-visible label, as I've just had another new koha librarian ask me about it. 15:20 gmcharlt slef: I'll make a patch to change the user-visible label unless you want 15:20 gmcharlt want to, rather 15:20 slef I've all the files open, so I may as well 15:20 gmcharlt ok, thanks 15:22 gmcharlt hdl: question about ISO-5426 -- is it equivalent to just the ANSEL part of MARC-8, or does it (or a related ISO standard) include the MARC-8 encodes for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc.? 15:23 hdl only ANSEL part of MARC-8 15:24 hdl I got the hash from marc4j. 15:25 hdl I belive we could investiguate and build up a better hash. 15:25 hdl Have you tested that on some data ? 15:25 gmcharlt hdl: thanks. I wonder if there's a way to get MARC::Charset to convert just ANSEL 15:26 gmcharlt hdl: tried in context of Z39.50 searches of LC -- when encoding is ISO-5426, conversion seems to not handle the diacritics correctly 15:26 gmcharlt setting encoding to MARC-8 (which uses MARC::Charset) seems to work better 15:27 hdl On BNF encoding, it works well for diacritics. 15:27 hdl And they claim to have biblios encoded in ISO5426. 15:29 gmcharlt 'BNF' is the French national library's Z39.50 server? 15:29 hdl Yes. 15:30 hdl And marc8_to_utf8 failed on that. 15:32 gmcharlt hdl: what's a good word for a title search of BNF? 15:32 hdl http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavigat/frame/infopro.htm 15:32 hdl Les misérables 15:33 hdl or ISBN :2020224526 15:39 gmcharlt hdl: alas, that server is not accepting connections at the moment 15:40 gmcharlt hdl: do you know of another French Z39.50 server that works in the same way as BNF? 15:40 hdl SUDOC 15:41 gmcharlt i.e., carmin.sudoc.abes.fr? 15:41 hdl http://www.abes.fr/abes/page,439,mode-public.html 15:41 hdl yes 15:49 gmcharlt hdl: today just isn't my lucky day -- that one is not accepting my connections 15:53 gmcharlt hdl: ok, found one I can connect to: Univ. de Rennes 15:53 gmcharlt http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Aartus.univ-rennes1.fr%3A210%2Frennes 15:54 gmcharlt do diacritics look correct for you if encoding is set to ISO-5426 (they don't for me, but MARC-8 does work for me) 16:00 gmcharlt hdl: more info -- for Rennes Z39.50 server (ti=chat) diacritics still look wrong in ISO_5426 mode when code is at currently 3.0 -- i.e., without my charset patch of yesterday 16:00 gmcharlt hdl: do they look correct to you? 16:01 hdl trying now 16:07 hdl Etude comparée du comptage des éosinophiles chez le chien et chez le chat par un automate à variation d'impédance l'Hemavet 950 (Drew Scientific) et deux méthodes manuelles 16:07 hdl looks right for me. 16:09 hdl But it comes from SUDOC. 16:09 hdl ARTUS seems to be USMARC. 16:09 hdl (No Title) 16:24 gmcharlt hdl: I guess I'll have to try my testing later when BNF or SUDOC start accepting connections from me 16:25 gmcharlt hdl: in meantime, if you could check whether my charset patch breaks anything for your testing of BNF or SUDOC, I'd appreciate it 16:25 hdl can you send it to me ? 16:28 gmcharlt hdl: I've e-mailed it to you 16:30 hdl Patch doesnot apply on ImportBatch.pm 16:33 gmcharlt hdl: sorry missed a preceding patch -- will e-mail it to you 16:35 gmcharlt hdl: sent 16:45 hdl http://pastebin.com/md4f35f6 16:45 hdl It doesnot work. 16:47 hdl :( 16:49 gmcharlt hdl: what happens when you set z3950servers.encoding to 'MARC-8' and search again? 16:58 hdl It Breaks. 16:58 hdl But ISO_5426 works. 17:00 gmcharlt hdl: so if I understsand correctly, with my patch, ISO_5426 still works for the SUDOC server? 17:00 hdl (testing on BNF only) 17:01 hdl But I still have some problems : 17:01 hdl Éd. du Seuil 17:01 hdl Should be Éd. du Seuil 17:02 gmcharlt hdl: the diacritic is not coming across in my IRC channel -- what is the name of it? 17:02 hdl Capital E Acute 17:11 hdl gmcharlt: Have you worked on Authorities ? 17:11 gmcharlt hdl: still in process -- the authorities indexing I posted about on koha-devel is part of it 17:14 hdl I sent a patch which allowed authid to be user defined subfield. 17:14 hdl Have you seen it ? 17:15 gmcharlt hdl: not yet, but sounds useful 17:15 hdl I cannot see this post any more. 17:15 gmcharlt which one -- the authorities indexing one? 17:36 gmcharlt gmcharlt-- # missed that BNF requires a username and password 17:36 gmcharlt hdl: I just sent you another patch -- should fix invocation of ISO_5426 conversion from a Z39.50 search 17:44 gmcharlt hdl: found big difference between ISO-5426 and MARC-8: the combining cedilla is \xD0 in 5426, \xF0 in MARC-8 ANSEL 17:44 gmcharlt hdl: now I know why MARC::Charset doesn't work for it 18:02 atz whoa.... microsoft buys yahoo for $44 Billion ?! 18:05 gmcharlt atz: is the deal complete? 18:06 atz just a bid right now... but a rather persuasive one, I'd say 18:06 gmcharlt nah, Yahoo should hold out for more ;) 18:17 slef US+EU regulators will call it in anyway 18:19 gmcharlt slef: by that you mean kill the deal on antitrust concerns? hope the EU regulators would do so; I'm not so sure about US 18:19 slef either way, just the delay may mean that if Yahoo agrees then if it is blocked/obstructed too much, Yahoo will tailspin and be bought by someone else 18:20 gmcharlt yep, it's possible 18:20 gmcharlt I haven't been following Yahoo -- has it been on the way down recently? 18:21 slef no, but doesn't seem to have been on the up like google 18:21 slef and microsoft are big anyway 18:22 slef I don't know what analysts think about Wikia Search - it's possible that they reckon it will shift one of the top 4, as Jimmy Wales has media buzz 18:24 slef Yahoo's last results were down, apparently, but even google disappointed 18:24 slef from a libraries point of view, it's sort of disappointing that the big properties are mostly search 18:25 slef then again, if you are a successful non-proprietary search, you won't appear in the list of top properties that the media often quote 18:27 atz anybody know the ppl behind "Alpha-G" consulting that is apparently working to deploy evergreen ? 18:27 atz spinoff from equinox? 18:31 gmcharlt atz: the principal John Craig appears to have been a Dynix; looks like he left it to found Alpha-G before Sirsi bought it 18:31 gmcharlt a Dynix guy, rather 18:31 atz interesting 18:32 gmcharlt he has a pretty detailed profile on LinkedIn 19:42 fbcit is there a quick way to grab a member's cardnumber based on borrowernumber? 08:38 chris evening