| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:37 |
|
Brooke |
howdy |
| 13:41 |
|
slef |
hi |
| 13:44 |
|
paul |
hi slef : could you summarize the status of the installer ? (what works & what it does) |
| 13:45 |
|
slef |
it checks dependencies (and installs if you run it via install-CPAN.pl) and moves files about |
| 13:45 |
|
slef |
I'm just committing the bit that generates configuration files. |
| 13:45 |
|
slef |
Next I'll write the INSTALL |
| 13:46 |
|
paul |
so it's almost here ? |
| 13:46 |
|
slef |
yes, there's "only" the debugging to do |
| 13:46 |
|
slef |
Have you done $C4::Context::VERSION? |
| 13:47 |
|
paul |
nope. with all database discussions, i've delayed that, to fix everything at the same time |
| 13:47 |
|
slef |
I'll do it - I need it... what is current release number? 3.000.000_0001? |
| 13:48 |
|
slef |
3.00.00.002 |
| 13:48 |
|
slef |
I was close ;-) |
| 15:08 |
|
slef |
paul: latest installer work is available in http://serene.ttllp.co.uk/~mjr/koha-installer/ |
| 15:29 |
|
Brooke |
hi dbs |
| 15:29 |
|
dbs |
Hello Brooke |
| 15:29 |
|
Brooke |
:) |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
slef: you workin on the installer today? |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
slef: so are you giving the user an option for install location, or just using /opt/koha or sth? |
| 16:24 |
|
slef |
kados: optional (set PREFIX, BASE_DIR and other common handy environment variables) |
| 16:24 |
|
slef |
(was on phone) |
| 16:37 |
|
Brooke |
hi tim |
| 16:38 |
|
tim |
Hi Brooke |
| 16:38 |
|
Brooke |
:) |
| 16:38 |
|
slef |
kados: what would be clever would be if rewrite-config.PL could see the value of PREFIX, which it doesn't seem to be able to, hence you have to set BASE_DIR too :-/ |
| 16:39 |
|
tim |
I have a problem that started today and I can't figure it out. It might not be a Koha problem, but it's sure making it slow. |
| 16:40 |
|
tim |
I'm getting 99% CPU usage on the server and can't find any processes that are causing it. |
| 16:40 |
|
slef |
looked in top? |
| 16:40 |
|
slef |
otherwise, what's the server? |
| 16:41 |
|
slef |
(operating system, hosting package, or whatever) |
| 16:57 |
|
kados |
slef: so in the original installer, I had the option to specifiy a desired location for htdocs and cgi-bin for both interfaces |
| 16:57 |
|
kados |
slef: are you saying I'd have to edit a config file to get that functionality now? |
| 16:59 |
|
tim |
Looked on top. OS=Debian Sarge. 1.8GHz Celeron, 1G RAM |
| 16:59 |
|
slef |
kados: no, just put it on the command line |
| 16:59 |
|
slef |
kados: erm |
| 16:59 |
|
kados |
so no more dialog when running the installer? |
| 16:59 |
|
slef |
kados: actually, that particular split would require a config file edit and moving the files around yourself |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
suxor |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
I'd say that's a pretty important issues that needs to be addressed |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
at least IMO |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
because we've got people who want to install multiple versions of Koha on the same box |
| 17:00 |
|
slef |
having 1001 different koha tree layouts is a problem |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
why's that? |
| 17:00 |
|
slef |
so they just put them under different PREFIX or INST_* setups |
| 17:01 |
|
slef |
kados: complexity in the installer |
| 17:01 |
|
kados |
I guess we could have a wrapper install script that did all the stuff you're doing in an automated fashio |
| 17:01 |
|
slef |
kados: multiple kohas with the old installer meant setting environment variables anyway IIRC |
| 17:01 |
|
kados |
n |
| 17:02 |
|
slef |
yes, can have lots of wrappers, but need the basic non-interactive FHS-compliant perl/CPAN-friendly installer first |
| 17:02 |
|
kados |
100% agree |
| 17:02 |
|
slef |
phone again |
| 17:02 |
|
kados |
slef++ |
| 17:10 |
|
slef |
back |
| 17:10 |
|
slef |
one of the problems on the 2.2 installer, IMO, was the number of questions |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
agreed |
| 17:11 |
|
slef |
3.0 installer asks nothing and uses whatever half-sane defaults I |
| 17:11 |
|
slef |
could figure out how to obtain |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
part of that is fixed by moving them to the web installer |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
ok, that works |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
so long as I can write a wrapper later that allows some dialog |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
ie, where there could be choices, I should be able to make choices |
| 17:12 |
|
slef |
many of them can be overridden, by passing environment variables to either MakeMaker or through |
| 17:12 |
|
slef |
rewrite-config.PL |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
yea, the env var is the wy to go IMO |
| 17:12 |
|
slef |
Have you see Havoc's rant against choices? |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
that way I can ask questions, then set the env vars based on that, then go do it |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
no |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
but I agree |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
I just know that some choices are going to be necessary |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
maybe not for 90% of the people installing |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
but there will always be a few that want to set things up a certain way |
| 17:13 |
|
slef |
"Havoc Pennington is a bright enough fellow, but I think he's got |
| 17:13 |
|
slef |
issues." hehe |
| 17:13 |
|
slef |
well, can 10% cope with putting them on the command-line or tweaking their install after the installer's finished? |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
don't thikn so |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
so we write a wrapper |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
but your thing comes first |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
so as long as you use env variables where there shoudl be choices, and use a config r something to set defaults, well be golden |
| 17:14 |
|
slef |
I've passed a tarball dev release to pray for him to try. |
| 17:19 |
|
Brooke |
I know I'll be shot on sight for this, but if it's really that large, can there be 2 installers? One no choice and one customiseable? |
| 17:19 |
|
slef |
*BANG* |
| 17:20 |
|
Brooke |
Shooting me just makes Ugh mad. |
| 17:20 |
|
slef |
Seriously, the installer has lots of choices, but sane defaults and just won't ask you about it. |
| 17:20 |
|
slef |
you can tell it if you want a different choice and it shouldn't be hard to write a "question everything" wrapper |
| 17:21 |
|
Brooke |
question everything, trust no one, who's counting *duck* |
| 17:21 |
|
slef |
http://ometer.com/features.html |
| 17:22 |
|
slef |
http://ometer.com/free-software-ui.html under "The Question of Preferences" |
| 17:22 |
|
slef |
is a better reference |
| 17:23 |
|
Brooke |
*nod* |
| 17:24 |
|
Brooke |
I'm gonna jet, too |
| 17:31 |
|
tim |
Killed MySQL and CPU went down to nothing. Started it up again and it's ok so far, but hasn't been used. |
| 17:33 |
|
slef |
tim: check your mysql logs, but that's fiddly. Did you see what state the mysql daemon was in? If D, then it may be a filesystem fault. |
| 17:33 |
|
slef |
but actually, D won't usually push the CPU up until it's almost unrecoverable |
| 17:33 |
|
slef |
so I don't know |
| 17:33 |
|
slef |
increase your monitoring and cross your fingers |
| 17:35 |
|
tim |
Thanks. It's strange because we didn't have this problem before and it's been under lots heavier use than this. |
| 17:39 |
|
cm |
kados, are you around? I'm puzzling over my title search problem. |
| 17:51 |
|
ryan |
win 3 |
| 17:51 |
|
slef |
lose 99 |
| 18:59 |
|
tim |
This is strange. I killed MySQL and CPU usage dropped. Restarted it and it was fine till we try to add a biblio record. Then CPU is back to 99%. |
| 19:00 |
|
tim |
top doesn't show any processes using that much CPU. |
| 19:54 |
|
thd` |
ryan: ping |
| 19:55 |
|
thd |
tim: how had you measured your 99% CPU usage? |
| 19:58 |
|
tim |
Just with top |
| 22:09 |
|
apeiron |
whois apeiron |
| 22:09 |
|
apeiron |
whoops. |
| 23:09 |
|
MattNZ |
Hey guys |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
hey matt |
| 23:10 |
|
rach |
hello |
| 23:10 |
|
MattNZ |
Just looking at Koha for the first time, just trying to get my head around it all.... |
| 23:10 |
|
MattNZ |
how long have you guys been using it? what do you like about it? |
| 23:11 |
|
chris |
you are probably best to ask that question on the mailing list |
| 23:11 |
|
chris |
mostly developers on irc |
| 23:11 |
|
MattNZ |
Do you know what development support fees are generally? |
| 23:12 |
|
chris |
it depends entirely on who is doing your support and what level of support you need |
| 23:12 |
|
MattNZ |
ok, fair enough |
| 23:12 |
|
MattNZ |
So where are you based? |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
im in wellington |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
you? |
| 23:13 |
|
MattNZ |
Christchurch |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
i work for liblime, who do a bunch of support and development around Koha, here in NZ and in the US |
| 23:14 |
|
MattNZ |
Do you charge hourly, yearly ? for support / development |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
its pretty flexible, we have some kinda set deals, they are based around yearly |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
you probably want to talk to Russel he knows all that kinda stuff :) |
| 23:15 |
|
MattNZ |
Do you have these set deals published anywhere that you know of? :) |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
lemme ask, 2 secs |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
we don't |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
MattNZ: http://liblime.com/about/quote |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
someone will contact you if you submit that form |
| 23:16 |
|
MattNZ |
thanks |
| 23:18 |
|
MattNZ |
How do you find the support of Koha? are most queries just user knowledge? or software issues? |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
a lot of feature requests |
| 23:19 |
|
chris |
lots of user knowledge one toos, though people tend to ask those ones on teh mailing lists |
| 23:19 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 23:19 |
|
chris |
customising/changing features to work in a way a client wants is often a big part |
| 23:20 |
|
MattNZ |
fair enough, being open source I guess the user can implement these functions themselves? |
| 23:20 |
|
chris |
yep sure can |
| 23:21 |
|
MattNZ |
I know there are lots of library systems out there, other than the open source thing what would you say is the major benefit of koha (just in your experience)? |
| 23:22 |
|
chris |
well, the opac of the latest version, and koha zoom, is probably better than any opac ive seen |
| 23:22 |
|
MattNZ |
do you have this online ? I would like to take a look |
| 23:22 |
|
chris |
that stems from the fact that the development is steered by libraries/librarians ... not by marketing teams :-) |
| 23:23 |
|
MattNZ |
yeah, fair enough... do you happen to know any live sites using this opac / koha zoom? that I could take a look at? |
| 23:23 |
|
chris |
there are ton of libraries using koha, ill find one using koha zoom for ya now |
| 23:24 |
|
MattNZ |
thanks |
| 23:24 |
|
chris |
http://search.athenscounty.lib[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 23:24 |
|
chris |
http://www.rangitikeilibrary.org.nz/ <-- koha classic |
| 23:24 |
|
chris |
or www.library.org.nz <-- koha classic too |
| 23:25 |
|
MattNZ |
great! thanks |
| 23:25 |
|
chris |
http://opac.smfpl.org/ <-- theres another zoom one |
| 23:25 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers <-- some of the libraries we know that are using koha |
| 23:26 |
|
chris |
heres a neat thing you can do in zoom |
| 23:27 |
|
chris |
http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/search?q=the |
| 23:27 |
|
chris |
find the album called 'the' by macy gray |
| 23:28 |
|
MattNZ |
ok, found it |
| 23:28 |
|
chris |
(its a pet peeve of mine, i know the wellington city library has albums by 'the the' .. but i cant find them in the catalogue) |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
because the is a stop word |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
and stripped from the searches |
| 23:29 |
|
MattNZ |
ok, cool |
| 23:29 |
|
MattNZ |
does it do video, audio attachments? |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
yep can do |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
you just have to add the link to them when you catalogue an item |
| 23:30 |
|
MattNZ |
to an electronic file? is this stored in the database? or just a link? |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
you could store it in the db if you want, but its best usually using some content management system to manage those type and file,s and just provide a link to them in the catalogue |
| 23:33 |
|
MattNZ |
ok |
| 23:33 |
|
MattNZ |
certainly looks interesting |
| 23:33 |
|
MattNZ |
how long would it have taken to set up the web interface like the athens one? |
| 23:34 |
|
chris |
kados would know the answer to that one, not long i dont think, thats pretty close to the standard templates that come with zoom i think |
| 23:34 |
|
chris |
that right kados? |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
hmm its 7.30pm where he is, he might have gone to eat :) |
| 23:36 |
|
MattNZ |
ok, lol |
| 23:40 |
|
MattNZ |
so is koha zoom something you can download or do you have to buy this component? |
| 23:41 |
|
chris |
you can download, but its very tricky to get going, koha 3.0 will have the features of zoom, but be much easier to install |
| 23:41 |
|
chris |
thats what we are working on now |
| 23:42 |
|
MattNZ |
ahhh I see |
| 23:42 |
|
MattNZ |
are there detailed instructions on how to get it going with 2.28 that you know of? |
| 23:43 |
|
chris |
yeah they are a bit out of date though, but what there are is at |
| 23:43 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ingzebraplugin226 |
| 23:44 |
|
MattNZ |
thanks |
| 23:45 |
|
MattNZ |
oh well, thanks for your help... I will go have a play.... may come back if I can't get things working, lol |
| 23:46 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 23:49 |
|
cht |
hi folks |
| 23:49 |
|
chris |
hi chris |
| 23:50 |
|
cht |
its been a while since i've been in here |
| 23:50 |
|
cht |
but, as always, i'm here for a reason :) |
| 23:51 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:51 |
|
cht |
i'm trying to load the marc data for npl in samoa but... |
| 23:52 |
|
cht |
the bulkmarcload.pl gives me the following: |
| 23:52 |
|
cht |
Can't locate object method "ignore_errors" via package "MARC::Charset" at ... line 24 |
| 23:54 |
|
cht |
that should have been bulkmarkimport.pl, sorry |
| 23:54 |
|
cht |
any ideas? |
| 23:55 |
|
cht |
i'm thinking, comment line 24 out and see what happens :) |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
yeah worth a shot |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
i suspect MARC::Charset has changed since that script was written |
| 23:58 |
|
cht |
wish me luck! ;) |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
good luck :) |
| 23:59 |
|
cht |
sigh... |
| 23:59 |
|
cht |
it looks like MARC::Record has dropped the encoding method used at line 218 |
| 00:03 |
|
chris |
ahh, i wonder if theree is a newer bulkmarcimport in git |
| 00:03 |
|
chris |
lemme look |
| 00:06 |
|
cht |
it looks like bulkmarcimport.pl uses the encoding method in at least three places, some of which are important |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]4a54ff2af1b44319e |
| 00:07 |
|
chris |
is the latest version i can find |
| 00:08 |
|
cht |
i see the the MARC::Charset on line 24 is commented out :) |
| 00:10 |
|
cht |
and the encoding method of MARC::Record is only called once on line 149 and looks easy to comment out |
| 00:11 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 00:11 |
|
chris |
what version of MARC::Record do you hve installed |
| 00:12 |
|
masonj |
hmmm |
| 00:13 |
|
masonj |
just my 2 cents, ive been using a similar version of bulkmarcimport.pl |
| 00:13 |
|
masonj |
with the 'MARC::Charset->ignore_errors(1);' uncommented , and hasnt been grizzling |
| 00:15 |
|
masonj |
i wonder if certain versions of M::Charset dont like/use that sub? |
| 00:15 |
|
chris |
bound to be |
| 00:16 |
|
cht |
sorry - i'm back |
| 00:16 |
|
cht |
whats the best way to check the M:Record version? |
| 00:17 |
|
dbs |
perldoc MARC::Record |
| 00:17 |
|
dbs |
gives you a version under the second heading |
| 00:19 |
|
cht |
MARC::Recod 1.38 |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
its up to 2.0.0 now |
| 00:19 |
|
cht |
oh! |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
i reckon upgrading marc::record will fix the issue with the encoding (which you want fixed, badly encoded records = nightmare) |
| 00:20 |
|
cht |
i wonder if it will compile under debian etch? |
| 00:20 |
|
masonj |
yeah, it should |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
yeah, i installed it on debian just yesterday |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
with CPAN |
| 00:21 |
|
cht |
ok |
| 00:21 |
|
masonj |
FYI: my ignore_errors(1) friendly M::Charset version is 0.97 |
| 00:22 |
|
cht |
i just have to wait for the CPAN module to navigate usp's proxy server |
| 00:22 |
|
masonj |
with M::Record 2.0.0 |
| 00:22 |
|
chris |
proxies arent fun |
| 00:23 |
|
cht |
while this tries to run, i'm gunna grab some lunch |
| 00:23 |
|
cht |
i will report back in a while :) |
| 00:23 |
|
masonj |
cool, cya then |
| 00:23 |
|
cht |
geez i use too many smileys |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
its cos u are in friendly fiji |
| 00:44 |
|
Brooke |
yo |
| 00:44 |
|
chris |
hi brooke |
| 00:44 |
|
Brooke |
\/\/00+ chris is up :) |
| 00:44 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
hey chris if you're bored, I think selectbranchprinter.pl is still busted |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
I think it must use the old sessions stuff or sth |
| 00:46 |
|
chris |
ill go look, this is 3.0 right? |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
but basically, if you change branches, it doesn't save that choice properly |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 00:46 |
|
chris |
ill take a look now |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
the login one works fine |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
so prolly a copy/paste job would do it |
| 01:05 |
|
cht |
ok, i updated both MARC::Record and Charset off od CPAN with no trouble and bulkmarkimport.pl (the original version) is now running against about 45,000 records |
| 01:27 |
|
cht |
thx kados! |
| 01:28 |
|
cht |
dum dee dum... CPU at 100%... mysql at the top of the process list... i guess that's a good sign ;-) |
| 02:08 |
|
thd |
chris: I have a question about submitting compressed git patches. |
| 02:08 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 02:10 |
|
cht |
unrelated question: are there any other opac or intranet templates available anywhere? |
| 02:10 |
|
thd |
chris: I have submitted several patches to patches at koha.org but only one patch which did not depend on previous compressed patches ever made it into the main repository. |
| 02:11 |
|
chris |
not really cht, the idea was that contribs.koha.org would be a place to put them but no one really has yet |
| 02:11 |
|
chris |
hmmm, i wonder if the mail server ate them |
| 02:12 |
|
thd |
chris: the very first patch I submitted is now irrelevant but all the others are still relevant. |
| 02:12 |
|
chris |
can u remmebr the commit lines |
| 02:12 |
|
thd |
chris: what do you mean by commit lines? |
| 02:13 |
|
chris |
Major change switching Koha record ID from field 090 to 999 |
| 02:13 |
|
thd |
that is one |
| 02:13 |
|
chris |
ok what was the irrelevant one? |
| 02:13 |
|
thd |
no that was one of the last ones |
| 02:17 |
|
thd |
chris: the irrelevant one is "Corrected internal versioning and treatment of authority types" from 21 August. |
| 02:18 |
|
chris |
ok ill go hunting for the others and try to reapply them |
| 02:18 |
|
thd |
chris: I updated git subsequent to submitting the next batch of patches so their should be no dependency on the first one. |
| 02:19 |
|
chris |
k |
| 02:20 |
|
chris |
0001-Major-change-switching-Koha-record-ID-from-field-090.patch |
| 02:20 |
|
chris |
didnt apply |
| 02:20 |
|
chris |
error: misc/marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql: does not exist in index |
| 02:20 |
|
chris |
ill have a look at it to see why |
| 02:20 |
|
thd |
chris: "Correcting authoritytypecode values" was the first in a set of sequential patches from 24 August. |
| 02:21 |
|
thd |
chris: "Correcting fields and subfields included in authority frameworks" is second. |
| 02:22 |
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chris |
hmm right ill try applying them in that order |
| 02:22 |
|
thd |
chris: "Adding custom authority frameworks" is third. |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
first 2 applied ok |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
doing the 3rd one now |
| 02:23 |
|
thd |
chris: "Correcting custom authority frameworks installation instructions" is forth. |
| 02:24 |
|
thd |
chris: "Major MARC 21 bibliographic frameworks change" is fifth and last so far. |
| 02:24 |
|
chris |
first 3 applied and pushed up to the rm repo |
| 02:25 |
|
thd |
chris: the only issue I noticed was that git would give a warning about the trailing white space in some of my comment lines. |
| 02:26 |
|
chris |
yeah it doesnt like trailing whitespace |
| 02:26 |
|
chris |
but its just a warning |
| 02:27 |
|
chris |
ok that Major one still doesnt want to apply clean |
| 02:27 |
|
chris |
ill take a look |
| 02:27 |
|
chris |
the rest all applied fine |
| 02:27 |
|
thd |
chris: I could fix the trailing white space in my comments in future to avoid confusing diff but the amount of white space is not a serious issue presently. |
| 02:28 |
|
cht |
folks: where is the item type supposed to go? 942 subfield something? |
| 02:29 |
|
thd |
cht: that sounds right if you mean the internal Koha SQL column. |
| 02:30 |
|
chris |
sorted and pushed up, so when joshua has checked it, should all appear on git.koha.org thd |
| 02:30 |
|
thd |
chris: what was the problem with the last one? |
| 02:31 |
|
chris |
misc/marc21_standard_bib_framework.sql and the simple one didnt exist, so i just git added them and it was happy |
| 02:32 |
|
thd |
chris: were they moved or something? |
| 02:33 |
|
chris |
could be, seems all happy now tho, so just check it when it appears at git.koha.org |
| 02:34 |
|
thd |
chris: I would have thought that some of the other patches had a dependency on those files but I guess I will check the final status to see that it all went well |
| 02:36 |
|
thd |
chris: can file additions not be included in a patch? |
| 02:36 |
|
chris |
yep they can |
| 02:36 |
|
chris |
im not sure why it didnt like them, but its happy now |
| 02:36 |
|
thd |
I guess I ma happy if git is happy :) |
| 02:37 |
|
chris |
the messages had got caught by my filters as they didnt have the [PATCH] text in them, so i didnt spot them |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
(get so much spam to the @koha.org addresses) |
| 02:38 |
|
thd |
chris: should subject line should include [PATCH]? |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
thats what git send email does, so i have a filter that spots them |
| 02:38 |
|
thd |
when I send patch messages? |
| 02:39 |
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chris |
yeah that would be handy |
| 02:39 |
|
thd |
chris: I have not been using git to send them because I have to compress to many of them before sending. |
| 02:40 |
|
thd |
chris: I cannot send a 22-25 MB frameworks patch over my mail system |
| 02:41 |
|
chris |
yeah fair enough, if you put PATCH onthe subject line itll make it easier to spot |
| 02:41 |
|
chris |
and we should be all good |
| 02:41 |
|
chris |
gzipped is fined, i just didnt spot them |
| 02:43 |
|
thd |
cht: biblioitems.itemtype is in 942 $c by default for the Koha MARC 21 bibliographic frameworks |
| 02:50 |
|
cht |
thd: perfect, thx |
| 02:53 |
|
cht |
one more question... i loaded the data before i set the item types, which is something that chris told me not to do... |
| 02:53 |
|
cht |
do i need to set the item types and then do a fresh reload or can i just enter the items types now? |
| 02:53 |
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chris |
you can just enter them now, that should be ok |
| 02:56 |
|
cht |
k |
| 02:59 |
|
cht |
oops. i forgot about the 4 char limit on the item type - i guess i will have to reload after all |
| 07:03 |
|
paul__ |
World Rugby Cup begins today in France |
| 07:09 |
|
chris |
yes, im watching interviews live in marseille |
| 07:09 |
|
chris |
i didnt see you though :) |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 07:09 |
|
chris |
saw zidane kicking a rugby ball |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
yes, we have some ads with Zizou and F. Galtier speaking of sport |
| 07:10 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 07:10 |
|
chris |
12 hours till kickoff |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
the rugby man explaining to Zizou that the Rugby ball is oval and the rules differents (give the ball behind you to advance :-D ), but the sport spirit is the same |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
or something like that |
| 07:11 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 07:11 |
|
masonj |
but keeps it nearby.... |
| 07:11 |
|
chris |
the bar in marseille where russel and I had dinner with HDL was in the newspaper here today |
| 07:12 |
|
chris |
being the only rugby bar in marseille |
| 07:12 |
|
paul |
of course : Marseille is THE soccer city in France. |
| 07:13 |
|
chris |
http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset/blog/archives/448 |
| 07:13 |
|
hdl |
and zizou being badly hit by a quarterback. |
| 07:13 |
|
chris |
new marcedit |
| 07:13 |
|
paul |
(even our new bishop said when he arrived last year : "I come from a Rugby city, but i'm happy to discover a soccer city" ;-) ) |
| 07:13 |
|
chris |
hi hdl |
| 07:13 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 07:14 |
|
hdl |
hi chris |
| 07:15 |
|
hdl |
Marcedit still relies on .net :S |
| 07:15 |
|
chris |
yeah, but it should work with MONO |
| 07:16 |
|
chris |
i havent tried it though |
| 07:16 |
|
hdl |
I tried on a windows engine. |
| 07:16 |
|
hdl |
But it was quite slow. |
| 07:16 |
|
chris |
right |
| 07:17 |
|
hdl |
(.net on windows 2000 professional) |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
chris, a git question... |
| 07:22 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
we did some tests with hdl, and I have something like 10+ commits on my repo. |
| 07:22 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
something like 3-4 of them are "useless" and you don't need to apply them on official repo |
| 07:22 |
|
chris |
right |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
how to tell git "OK, forget those ones" |
| 07:23 |
|
chris |
i dont think you can, but you can tell git which ones you want to make patches for |
| 07:23 |
|
paul |
(of course, they are mixed with useful ones. For example A-B-C-D-E-F : B, C and E are useless) |
| 07:24 |
|
paul |
right, but they will still appear on my branch. And a .patch file file will be generated each time I git-format-patch |
| 07:24 |
|
paul |
right ? |
| 07:24 |
|
chris |
yes unless you tell format patch to ignore them |
| 07:24 |
|
chris |
im just looking how to do that |
| 07:26 |
|
chris |
--ignore-if-in-upstream |
| 07:26 |
|
chris |
Do not include a patch that matches a commit in <until>..<since>. This will examine all patches reachable from <since> but not from <until> and compare them with the patches being generated, and any patch that matches is ignored. |
| 07:26 |
|
chris |
maybe that .. but im not sure |
| 07:26 |
|
chris |
there must be some way to do it, people must have run into this before |
| 08:28 |
|
slef |
hi |
| 08:28 |
|
slef |
chris: about? |
| 08:58 |
|
paul |
hi slef |
| 09:03 |
|
chris |
am now |
| 09:41 |
|
slef |
chris: sorry, was on phone (50 minutes!) |
| 09:41 |
|
slef |
chris: still there? I've got a FHS patch to the installer which might actually get us a working and half-sane tarball |
| 09:44 |
|
chris |
cool :) |
| 09:44 |
|
slef |
I'll email it in now, as you're around, instead of waiting for pray to test |
| 09:44 |
|
chris |
cool, ill take a look and apply it and push it up to the RM repo, and joshua can push it out when he wakes up |
| 09:45 |
|
slef |
you have m il |
| 09:45 |
|
slef |
anyone else, the patches are on serene |
| 09:46 |
|
slef |
serene is http://serene.ttllp.co.uk/~mjr/ |
| 09:46 |
|
slef |
serene? |
| 09:46 |
|
dewey |
serene is http://serene.ttllp.co.uk/~mjr/ |
| 09:47 |
|
chris |
sweet that looks good |
| 09:48 |
|
chris |
done |
| 09:49 |
|
slef |
not 100% sure about it, as I've not found anyone doing this the same way yet |
| 09:49 |
|
chris |
right |
| 09:49 |
|
slef |
but then, installation of perl webapps seems to be as neat as a bag of cats |
| 09:49 |
|
chris |
yeah, everyone seems to do it differently |
| 09:50 |
|
slef |
some people like Module::Install, some like PAR, so I'm staying with MakeMaker for now because it's everywhere |
| 09:50 |
|
chris |
right |
| 09:54 |
|
chris |
that tarball looks pretty deent |
| 09:55 |
|
chris |
decent too |
| 09:55 |
|
slef |
beware: it will splatter /usr if you don't give it a PREFIX on both Makefile.PL and make |
| 09:55 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 09:55 |
|
slef |
but most people seem to like to splatter /usr with koha - strange people ;-) |
| 09:56 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 09:56 |
|
slef |
perl Makefile.PL 'PREFIX=/tmp/koha' |
| 09:56 |
|
slef |
PREFIX=/tmp/koha make install |
| 09:56 |
|
chris |
good way to test |
| 09:57 |
|
slef |
for testing... looks sane... not been brave enough to try install-CPAN.pl on my main coding system yet! |
| 09:57 |
|
chris |
ill have a try on that, and see what happens :) |
| 09:58 |
|
slef |
I've not tried yet, but you may even be able to dh-make-perl the tarball |
| 09:58 |
|
slef |
that's the eventual plan... probably needs debugging |
| 10:09 |
|
chris |
seems to be working |
| 10:11 |
|
chris |
at least its installing a pile of modules from cpan |
| 10:11 |
|
chris |
(was a fresh debian etch so its needing to install all the modules) |
| 10:13 |
|
slef |
cool |
| 10:13 |
|
slef |
did you install mysql and zebra first, like in the README? |
| 10:13 |
|
slef |
;-) |
| 10:13 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 10:13 |
|
slef |
good man! You are a rare hacker, RTFMing |
| 10:14 |
|
chris |
heh i even read the install-CPAN.pl to figure out how to run it |
| 10:14 |
|
chris |
i think if its a fresh cpan |
| 10:14 |
|
chris |
we need one more mkdir |
| 10:14 |
|
chris |
to make the id dir .. before we make id/K |
| 10:14 |
|
slef |
fresh = unused? |
| 10:14 |
|
chris |
yeah, unconfigured CPAN |
| 10:15 |
|
slef |
ah, that doesn't happen during configuration? |
| 10:15 |
|
chris |
it makes author |
| 10:15 |
|
slef |
You need to have configured CPAN |
| 10:15 |
|
chris |
but not author/id |
| 10:15 |
|
slef |
ok, shall I add and send-email? |
| 10:15 |
|
chris |
that would be cool |
| 10:22 |
|
slef |
done |
| 10:22 |
|
chris |
sweet, ill apply then i might head to bed, gotta be up early for the first game of the rugby world cup in the morning |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
I was wondering about going to watch that at the local cinema... not sure I'll bother |
| 10:23 |
|
chris |
luckily kahurangi will wake me up, he never sleeps past 6am |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
I think I have 4 free tickets |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
ultimate big screen sport ;-) |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
no beer, though |
| 10:23 |
|
chris |
to the france vs argentina game? |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
no, to RWC @ cinema |
| 10:23 |
|
chris |
ahh :) |
| 10:23 |
|
slef |
I think it's 4 for all matches |
| 10:23 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 10:24 |
|
slef |
after that, you have to pay... no idea what |
| 10:24 |
|
slef |
as in 4 for the tournament |
| 10:24 |
|
chris |
shame about the no beer rule |
| 10:24 |
|
slef |
no every match |
| 10:24 |
|
slef |
rugby+beer+steeply raked seats? sounds dangerous ;-) |
| 10:24 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 10:26 |
|
slef |
I think I'm only going to report phishing emails for banks I like from now on. |
| 10:26 |
|
slef |
It's too much work, otherwise. |
| 10:26 |
|
chris |
yeah there are so many of them |
| 10:27 |
|
slef |
I already only report UK ones because I know the unified reporting system for them. |
| 10:27 |
|
chris |
right applied and pushed, time for some sleep |
| 10:27 |
|
chris |
thanks for working on the installer |
| 10:27 |
|
slef |
no probs, enjoy your snooze |
| 10:27 |
|
slef |
oh, did it work? |
| 10:27 |
|
chris |
its still cpanning :) |
| 10:28 |
|
chris |
ill let you know tomorrow |
| 10:28 |
|
slef |
ok, voyons! |
| 10:39 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 10:39 |
|
slef |
morning... I shouldn't still be in this office :-/ |
| 10:40 |
|
kados |
slef++ # installer progress |
| 10:46 |
|
slef |
be interesting to see what chris's test turns up |
| 10:52 |
|
kados |
definitely |
| 11:09 |
|
hdl |
hi kados |
| 11:31 |
|
kados |
hey hdl |
