| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 12:45 |
|
owen |
Hi |
| 12:45 |
|
dewey |
hi, owen |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
hello kados & owen |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
paul: your patches have been applied |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
paul: I'm wondering if we shouldn't just go ahead and move the OPAC tempaltes into the same structure as the staff client |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
paul: do you like the new organization? |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
(on phone) |
| 12:48 |
|
hdl |
hi kados. |
| 12:49 |
|
hdl |
imho, OPAC has only one directory, So Would not need same structure. |
| 12:50 |
|
hdl |
But, if we want a light maintenance... we may have rather do the same thing. |
| 12:50 |
|
hdl |
.... |
| 12:50 |
|
hdl |
Little question... |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 12:51 |
|
hdl |
Is it interesting to have opac-scriptname for opac ?? |
| 12:51 |
|
kados |
s/opac-search.pl/search.pl/ IMO |
| 12:52 |
|
hdl |
Since it breaks things for ISBD... I would find it more interesting to have only one Script API... ... But anyway. |
| 12:52 |
|
hdl |
It would not be the same path to scripts. |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
ahh, it breaks for ISBD? |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
one thing I'd like to do is remove the need for /cgi-bin/koha/ |
| 12:52 |
|
dewey |
Hmm. No matches for that, kados. |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
make that a syspref or a config file setting rather than hard coded |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
so I could choose to have just / or /koha or sth |
| 12:53 |
|
hdl |
Yes, if you have a link say opac-search.pl in your ISBD, you won't be able to click on this link in intranet. |
| 12:53 |
|
hdl |
... |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
hdl: ahh, right |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
hdl: good point actually |
| 12:53 |
|
hdl |
But all those things are 2dary to BUG FXING. |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
hdl: yep |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
back |
| 12:57 |
|
paul |
kados : about absolute path for opac, i 100% agree. we need to be able to have a more simpler architecture. Just note that, iirc, mod_perl don't like scripts without a complete path. |
| 12:58 |
|
kados |
paul: ahh, good to know |
| 12:59 |
|
kados |
paul: but the scripts will have a complete path w/respect to the server, for pre-compiling, right? |
| 12:59 |
|
kados |
or are you not talking about pre-compiling? |
| 12:59 |
|
kados |
it's been a while since I looked at mod_perl stuff, I know there's a bunch of options for how to use it |
| 13:00 |
|
paul |
I don't understand internals. I just know that virtualshelves were not working well in 2.2 due to global variables (they are gone everywhere afaik), and scripts call being xxx.pl and not /cgi-bin/koha/xxx.pl |
| 13:01 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 13:01 |
|
paul |
about the template strcuture : I haven't investigated what you did exactly on intranet. what is nice with git is cherry picking ;-) : I don't have applied patches related to the templates rewriting : it breaked my ipt setup... |
| 13:01 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have some tests for mod_perl sanity? |
| 13:01 |
|
paul |
nope. |
| 13:02 |
|
kados |
we should make some before we make any changes to the script locations |
| 13:02 |
|
paul |
worst : san-op identified 1 problem with mySQL handlers not being freed, and they solved that by hardcoding a time-to-live of 10seconds for handlers |
| 13:02 |
|
paul |
(mysql parameter) |
| 13:02 |
|
paul |
+ i have found that some Context features, that were supposed to be cached were not in fact |
| 13:03 |
|
paul |
limiting the perf increase when going mod_perl. |
| 13:03 |
|
paul |
so, my suggestion would be : "don't do anything that will break mod_perl compatibility, but don't consider that it is working atm" |
| 13:08 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:19 |
|
owen |
Hi foxnorth |
| 14:20 |
|
foxnorth |
hey owen- how's it going? |
| 14:20 |
|
owen |
Pretty well, thanks. |
| 14:21 |
|
owen |
I finally got to see a preview of the cataloging client on Friday. It looks great |
| 14:21 |
|
foxnorth |
hey, cool. it's coming along, i think |
| 14:28 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 14:29 |
|
foxnorth |
hey hdl |
| 14:35 |
|
Brooke |
hola |
| 14:35 |
|
dewey |
salut, Brooke |
| 14:37 |
|
bureado |
hola :) |
| 14:37 |
|
hdl |
que tal ? |
| 14:38 |
|
Brooke |
pretty good |
| 14:39 |
|
Brooke |
lots o stuff on the weekend |
| 14:39 |
|
Brooke |
got done thats been sitting and it was fun to boot |
| 14:53 |
|
Brooke |
right, lunch time |
| 14:56 |
|
owen |
Did everyone see Colin McD's message to the Koha list? While the message itself was a little hard to get through, the core message is a good one: Koha needs to /work/. Every bug is bad customer experience. |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
paul: ? hdl ? |
| 14:59 |
|
paul |
yep ? |
| 14:59 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 14:59 |
|
paul |
I saw it too |
| 15:02 |
|
owen |
I wanted to highlight that email in case people brushed it off because of the suggestions for how to fix the problem. |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
yea, that's a good point owen |
| 15:16 |
|
paul |
I don't understand "brushed it off" :-\ |
| 15:17 |
|
kados |
paul: means 'ignore' |
| 15:17 |
|
owen |
Sorry |
| 15:17 |
|
paul |
owen / kados : do you know when the template rewriting will be finished ? |
| 15:17 |
|
paul |
I have some bugs on bugzilla I can't fix because it's probably a template problem & I don't want to interfere with what you're doing |
| 15:18 |
|
owen |
I don't think we do. If they're template bugs can you pass them to me? |
| 15:18 |
|
paul |
owen : it's bugs you've entered & assigned to me ;-) |
| 15:19 |
|
paul |
for example 1394 |
| 15:19 |
|
paul |
(bug that I can't reproduce however) |
| 15:20 |
|
paul |
owen : what do you mean by "I don't think we do" ? |
| 15:20 |
|
owen |
I mean template-rewriting is part of the process of getting 3.0 ready. I can't see it ending until 3.0 is ready for release. |
| 15:21 |
|
owen |
If there's a bug in a template, though, it should be fixed, and whatever changes need to be made later to that template can be corrected with the fix included |
| 15:23 |
|
owen |
Why do you say 1394 is a template bug? |
| 15:23 |
|
paul |
I suspect. |
| 15:23 |
|
paul |
but not sure, as I can't reproduce it atm |
| 15:23 |
|
paul |
(maybe it's a DateFormat systempref problem, maybe something else) |
| 15:25 |
|
owen |
Here's more info: I just changed the DateFormat systempref from us to metric and the bug didn't happen |
| 15:26 |
|
owen |
So it sounds like it's something about us or non-metric date formatting. |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
owen : maybe you could suggest GWB to discard us format for dates and use a more logic one ? |
| 15:28 |
|
owen |
Sure I'll get right on that :) |
| 15:28 |
|
paul |
ok, I close the bug then... :-D |
| 15:28 |
|
owen |
No, just reassign to GWB |
| 15:30 |
|
owen |
Although I assigned him a bug for "global warming" and it came back marked "invalid" |
| 15:46 |
|
paul |
owen : could you look at : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 15:46 |
|
paul |
(login abel/abel) |
| 15:47 |
|
paul |
and tell me if it's the way a raw git repository should appear or if it should be nicer ? |
| 15:47 |
|
paul |
(same question to kados eventually) |
| 15:47 |
|
owen |
No, that's not how it should look. It doesn't look like it's an up-to-date version. |
| 15:47 |
|
paul |
I suspect I should add some data somewhere in my database... |
| 15:48 |
|
paul |
owen : it is an uptodate version (unless i'm mistaken, or joshua hasn't pushed everything) |
| 15:48 |
|
owen |
In the current up to date version the main page uses staff-global.css instead of intranet2.css |
| 15:48 |
|
paul |
what is most probable is that something must be added in the systemprefs or somewhere |
| 15:48 |
|
paul |
gotcha !! |
| 15:49 |
|
paul |
I just had to remove the intranetstylesheet ! |
| 15:49 |
|
paul |
mmm... |
| 15:49 |
|
paul |
no |
| 15:53 |
|
paul |
there's something going wrong with git (probably my use) |
| 15:53 |
|
paul |
if I switch to my local branch, it's OK |
| 15:54 |
|
paul |
if I switch to "master", it seems i go back to an old state |
| 15:54 |
|
paul |
(there is no modules/css/js/ in templates directories) |
| 16:00 |
|
paul |
ok, I understand what happends but not how to solve the problem... |
| 16:00 |
|
paul |
master is stamped to aug,13 |
| 16:01 |
|
paul |
the uptodate is called origin/master |
| 16:03 |
|
paul |
git checkout master |
| 16:03 |
|
paul |
git rebase origin |
| 16:03 |
|
paul |
hop, master is uptodate while localbranch is untouched... |
| 16:03 |
|
paul |
owen : is http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl ok now ? |
| 16:03 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 16:04 |
|
paul |
yeah ! /me really happy with git ! |
| 16:06 |
|
paul |
owen : are all template "yui-ed" ? |
| 16:07 |
|
owen |
Not all, but most |
| 16:07 |
|
owen |
auth.tmpl is an example of a page structure with no columns (single column). intranet-main.tmpl is an example of a page with a left-hand column |
| 16:08 |
|
owen |
Right now the left-hand navigation column in contained in mainmenu.inc, included just above intranet-bottom.inc |
| 16:09 |
|
paul |
catalogue search results gives poor result, isn't it ? |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
Yes, I'm working on it now |
| 16:10 |
|
paul |
ok |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
My zebra index is broken, so I'm having difficulty working on catalog results pages |
| 17:04 |
|
paul |
kados : mail sent to koha-devel, about database structure. |
| 17:04 |
|
paul |
end of the day for me anyway now. |
| 17:08 |
|
kados |
paul++ |
| 17:08 |
|
kados |
owen: your zebradb is busted? |
| 17:08 |
|
kados |
ahh, right, never did fix that, sorry :/ |
| 17:08 |
|
owen |
:) |
| 18:54 |
|
thd |
kados: ping |
| 22:51 |
|
thd |
chris: are you there? |
| 02:27 |
|
thd |
chris: I have a question about the patch submission process for git |
| 02:27 |
|
kados |
thd: it's outlined on the wiki |
| 02:28 |
|
kados |
thd: and chris is out of town today |
| 02:28 |
|
thd |
kados: yes I know, my question is about submitting compressed patch archives which is not outlined |
| 02:28 |
|
kados |
thd: he'll be back tomorrow |
| 02:28 |
|
kados |
compressed patches, eh? |
| 02:28 |
|
kados |
I think paul's done a couple of those |
| 02:28 |
|
kados |
to reduce space I guess? |
| 02:28 |
|
thd |
ok thanks kados |
| 02:29 |
|
thd |
kados: my mail system cannot accommodate very large attachments |
| 02:29 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 02:44 |
|
thd |
kados: Do you know if both biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber still need to be stored in the bibliographic record for Koha 3.0? |
| 02:45 |
|
kados |
currently they do |
| 02:46 |
|
thd |
kados: how had you accommodated using 001 which has no subfields for storing both of those values? |
| 02:47 |
|
thd |
kados: you had told me that some of your installations used 001 for storing the Koha record ID but 001 is defined for storing only a single value. |
| 07:52 |
|
Brooke |
howdy |
| 07:52 |
|
dewey |
niihau, Brooke |
| 08:01 |
|
hdl |
hi Brooke |
| 08:01 |
|
Brooke |
Bonjour :) |
| 08:36 |
|
Brooke |
hi llyod |
| 09:44 |
|
Brooke |
hmmm sleepy again |
| 10:15 |
|
s3 |
hi |
| 10:15 |
|
dewey |
hi, s3 |
| 10:16 |
|
s3 |
i want ask |
| 10:16 |
|
s3 |
can use koha system in special library |
| 10:16 |
|
s3 |
and |
| 10:17 |
|
s3 |
koha for windows |
| 10:17 |
|
s3 |
or for lunix |
| 10:18 |
|
paul |
hello s3. |
| 10:18 |
|
s3 |
hello |
| 10:18 |
|
dewey |
hola, s3 |
| 10:18 |
|
paul |
don't expect anything intelligent from dewey, it's a stupid bot ;-) |
| 10:19 |
|
paul |
what is "special library" ? |
| 10:19 |
|
paul |
Koha works fine on windows and on linux, but it's easier to set up the server on linux/unix/mac OS-X |
| 10:20 |
|
s3 |
i mean Specialized library |
| 10:20 |
|
s3 |
and i want ask |
| 10:20 |
|
paul |
Koha is used in many differents libraries, I don't know why you could not use it ;-) |
| 10:21 |
|
s3 |
koha system how creait ti |
| 10:22 |
|
s3 |
library in usa or in uk or waht |
| 10:22 |
|
s3 |
what |
| 10:22 |
|
paul |
??? |
| 10:24 |
|
s3 |
who desien this system |
| 10:24 |
|
paul |
many ppl develop Koha. |
| 10:24 |
|
s3 |
i am sorry |
| 10:25 |
|
s3 |
many peaple tell me this system desigen in israel |
| 10:25 |
|
paul |
hdl & me (france) being the "european" part of the main core. kados, ryan and other LibLime folks being the US part |
| 10:25 |
|
paul |
no israelian is involved yet |
| 10:25 |
|
paul |
why do you ask this question ? |
| 10:26 |
|
paul |
you're from Israel ? |
| 10:26 |
|
s3 |
no |
| 10:26 |
|
paul |
the 1st version came from New Zealand. |
| 10:26 |
|
paul |
now it's international |
| 10:26 |
|
s3 |
i am egyptions |
| 10:26 |
|
s3 |
you live in new zealand |
| 10:27 |
|
paul |
nope, i'm french. |
| 10:27 |
|
paul |
so I live in France :-D |
| 10:27 |
|
s3 |
i am happy to meet you |
| 10:27 |
|
s3 |
my name is ahmed |
