Time  Nick     Message
10:27 s3       my name is ahmed
10:27 s3       i am happy to meet you
10:27 paul     so I live in France :-D
10:27 paul     nope, i'm french.
10:26 s3       you live in new zealand
10:26 s3       i am egyptions
10:26 paul     now it's international
10:26 paul     the 1st version came from New Zealand.
10:26 s3       no
10:26 paul     you're from Israel ?
10:25 paul     why do you ask this question ?
10:25 paul     no israelian is involved yet
10:25 paul     hdl & me (france) being the "european" part of the main core. kados, ryan and other LibLime folks being the US part
10:25 s3       many peaple tell me this system desigen in israel
10:24 s3       i am sorry
10:24 paul     many ppl develop Koha.
10:24 s3       who desien this system
10:22 paul     ???
10:22 s3       what
10:22 s3       library in usa or in uk or waht
10:21 s3       koha system how creait ti
10:20 paul     Koha is used in many differents libraries, I don't know why you could not use it ;-)
10:20 s3       and i want ask
10:20 s3       i mean Specialized library
10:19 paul     Koha works fine on windows and on linux, but it's easier to set up the server on linux/unix/mac OS-X
10:19 paul     what is "special library" ?
10:18 paul     don't expect anything intelligent from dewey, it's a stupid bot ;-)
10:18 dewey    hola, s3
10:18 s3       hello
10:18 paul     hello s3.
10:17 s3       or for lunix
10:17 s3       koha for windows
10:16 s3       and
10:16 s3       can use koha system in special library
10:16 s3       i want ask
10:15 dewey    hi, s3
10:15 s3       hi
09:44 Brooke   hmmm sleepy again
08:36 Brooke   hi llyod
08:01 Brooke   Bonjour :)
08:01 hdl      hi Brooke
07:52 dewey    niihau, Brooke
07:52 Brooke   howdy
02:47 thd      kados: you had told me that some of your installations used 001 for storing the Koha record ID but 001 is defined for storing only a single value.
02:46 thd      kados: how had you accommodated using 001 which has no subfields for storing both of those values?
02:45 kados    currently they do
02:44 thd      kados: Do you know if both biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber still need to be stored in the bibliographic record for Koha 3.0?
02:29 kados    *nod*
02:29 thd      kados: my mail system cannot accommodate very large attachments
02:28 thd      ok thanks kados
02:28 kados    to reduce space I guess?
02:28 kados    I think paul's done a couple of those
02:28 kados    compressed patches, eh?
02:28 kados    thd: he'll be back tomorrow
02:28 thd      kados: yes I know, my question is about submitting compressed patch archives which is not outlined
02:28 kados    thd: and chris is out of town today
02:27 kados    thd: it's outlined on the wiki
02:27 thd      chris: I have a question about the patch submission process for git
22:51 thd      chris: are you there?
18:54 thd      kados: ping
17:08 owen     :)
17:08 kados    ahh, right, never did fix that, sorry :/
17:08 kados    owen: your zebradb is busted?
17:08 kados    paul++
17:04 paul     end of the day for me anyway now.
17:04 paul     kados : mail sent to koha-devel, about database structure.
16:10 owen     My zebra index is broken, so I'm having difficulty working on catalog results pages
16:10 paul     ok
16:10 owen     Yes, I'm working on it now
16:09 paul     catalogue search results gives poor result, isn't it ?
16:08 owen     Right now the left-hand navigation column in contained in mainmenu.inc, included just above intranet-bottom.inc
16:07 owen     auth.tmpl is an example of a page structure with no columns (single column). intranet-main.tmpl is an example of a page with a left-hand column
16:07 owen     Not all, but most
16:06 paul     owen : are all template "yui-ed" ?
16:04 paul     yeah ! /me really happy with git !
16:03 owen     Yes
16:03 paul     owen : is http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl ok now ?
16:03 paul     hop, master is uptodate while localbranch is untouched...
16:03 paul     git rebase origin
16:03 paul     git checkout master
16:01 paul     the uptodate is called origin/master
16:00 paul     master is stamped to aug,13
16:00 paul     ok, I understand what happends but not how to solve the problem...
15:54 paul     (there is no modules/css/js/ in templates directories)
15:54 paul     if I switch to "master", it seems i go back to an old state
15:53 paul     if I switch to my local branch, it's OK
15:53 paul     there's something going wrong with git (probably my use)
15:49 paul     no
15:49 paul     mmm...
15:49 paul     I just had to remove the intranetstylesheet !
15:48 paul     gotcha !!
15:48 paul     what is most probable is that something must be added in the systemprefs or somewhere
15:48 owen     In the current up to date version the main page uses staff-global.css instead of intranet2.css
15:48 paul     owen : it is an uptodate version (unless i'm mistaken, or joshua hasn't pushed everything)
15:47 paul     I suspect I should add some data somewhere in my database...
15:47 owen     No, that's not how it should look. It doesn't look like it's an up-to-date version.
15:47 paul     (same question to kados eventually)
15:47 paul     and tell me if it's  the way a raw git repository should appear or if it should be nicer ?
15:46 paul     (login abel/abel)
15:46 paul     owen : could you look at : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl
15:30 owen     Although I assigned him a bug for "global warming" and it came back marked "invalid"
15:28 owen     No, just reassign to GWB
15:28 paul     ok, I close the bug then... :-D
15:28 owen     Sure I'll get right on that :)
15:27 paul     owen : maybe you could suggest GWB to discard us format for dates and use a more logic one ?
15:26 owen     So it sounds like it's something about us or non-metric date formatting.
15:25 owen     Here's more info: I just changed the DateFormat systempref from us to metric and the bug didn't happen
15:23 paul     (maybe it's a DateFormat systempref problem, maybe something else)
15:23 paul     but not sure, as I can't reproduce it atm
15:23 paul     I suspect.
15:23 owen     Why do you say 1394 is a template bug?
15:21 owen     If there's a bug in a template, though, it should be fixed, and whatever changes need to be made later to that template can be corrected with the fix included
15:20 owen     I mean template-rewriting is part of the process of getting 3.0 ready. I can't see it ending until 3.0 is ready for release.
15:20 paul     owen : what do you mean by "I don't think we do" ?
15:19 paul     (bug that I can't reproduce however)
15:19 paul     for example 1394
15:18 paul     owen : it's bugs you've entered & assigned to me ;-)
15:18 owen     I don't think we do. If they're template bugs can you pass them to me?
15:17 paul     I have some bugs on bugzilla I can't fix because it's probably a template problem & I don't want to interfere with what you're doing
15:17 paul     owen / kados : do you know when the template rewriting will be finished ?
15:17 owen     Sorry
15:17 kados    paul: means 'ignore'
15:16 paul     I don't understand "brushed it off" :-\
15:14 kados    yea, that's a good point owen
15:02 owen     I wanted to highlight that email in case people brushed it off because of the suggestions for how to fix the problem.
14:59 paul     I saw it too
14:59 hdl      yes
14:59 paul     yep ?
14:59 kados    paul: ? hdl ?
14:56 owen     Did everyone see Colin McD's message to the Koha list? While the message itself was a little hard to get through, the core message is a good one: Koha needs to /work/. Every bug is bad customer experience.
14:53 Brooke   right, lunch time
14:39 Brooke   got done thats been sitting and it was fun to boot
14:39 Brooke   lots o stuff on the weekend
14:38 Brooke   pretty good
14:37 hdl      que tal ?
14:37 bureado  hola :)
14:35 dewey    salut, Brooke
14:35 Brooke   hola
14:29 foxnorth hey hdl
14:28 hdl      hi
14:21 foxnorth hey, cool.  it's coming along, i think
14:21 owen     I finally got to see a preview of the cataloging client on Friday. It looks great
14:20 owen     Pretty well, thanks.
14:20 foxnorth hey owen- how's it going?
14:19 owen     Hi foxnorth
13:08 kados    *nod*
13:03 paul     so, my suggestion would be : "don't do anything that will break mod_perl compatibility, but don't consider that it is working atm"
13:03 paul     limiting the perf increase when going mod_perl.
13:02 paul     + i have found that some Context features, that were supposed to be cached were not in fact
13:02 paul     (mysql parameter)
13:02 paul     worst : san-op identified 1 problem with mySQL handlers not being freed, and they solved that by hardcoding a time-to-live of 10seconds for handlers
13:02 kados    we should make some before we make any changes to the script locations
13:01 paul     nope.
13:01 kados    paul: do you have some tests for mod_perl sanity?
13:01 paul     about the template strcuture : I haven't investigated what you did exactly on intranet. what is nice with git is cherry picking ;-) : I don't have applied patches related to the templates rewriting : it breaked my ipt setup...
13:01 kados    *nod*
13:00 paul     I don't understand internals. I just know that virtualshelves were not working well in 2.2 due to global variables (they are gone everywhere afaik), and scripts call being xxx.pl and not /cgi-bin/koha/xxx.pl
12:59 kados    it's been a while since I looked at mod_perl stuff, I know there's a bunch of options for how to use it
12:59 kados    or are you not talking about pre-compiling?
12:59 kados    paul: but the scripts will have a complete path w/respect to the server, for pre-compiling, right?
12:58 kados    paul: ahh, good to know
12:57 paul     kados : about absolute path for opac, i 100% agree. we need to be able to have a more simpler architecture. Just note that, iirc, mod_perl don't like scripts without a complete path.
12:56 paul     back
12:53 kados    hdl: yep
12:53 hdl      But all those things are 2dary to BUG FXING.
12:53 kados    hdl: good point actually
12:53 kados    hdl: ahh, right
12:53 hdl      ...
12:53 hdl      Yes, if you have a link say opac-search.pl in your ISBD, you won't be able to click on this link in intranet.
12:52 kados    so I could choose to have just / or /koha or sth
12:52 kados    make that a syspref or a config file setting rather than hard coded
12:52 dewey    Hmm.  No matches for that, kados.
12:52 kados    one thing I'd like to do is remove the need for /cgi-bin/koha/
12:52 kados    ahh, it breaks for ISBD?
12:52 hdl      It would not be the same path to scripts.
12:52 hdl      Since it breaks things for ISBD... I would find it more interesting to have only one Script API... ... But anyway.
12:51 kados    s/opac-search.pl/search.pl/ IMO
12:51 hdl      Is it interesting to have opac-scriptname for opac ??
12:50 kados    sure
12:50 hdl      Little question...
12:50 hdl      ....
12:50 hdl      But, if we want a light maintenance... we may have rather do the same thing.
12:49 hdl      imho, OPAC has only one directory, So Would not need same structure.
12:48 hdl      hi kados.
12:46 paul     (on phone)
12:46 kados    paul: do you like the new organization?
12:46 kados    paul: I'm wondering if we shouldn't just go ahead and move the OPAC tempaltes into the same structure as the staff client
12:46 kados    paul: your patches have been applied
12:45 kados    hi paul
12:45 paul     hello kados & owen
12:45 dewey    hi, owen
12:45 owen     Hi
12:45 kados    morning all
12:45 kados    morning owen