| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
hey jaron |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
jaron: got a sec? I've got a question about keystroke behavior in your marc editor |
| 13:18 |
|
jaron |
one sec... |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 13:19 |
|
jaron |
ok, what's up? |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
I'm basically just wondering what the rules should be for tab / enter in various contexts |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
so maybe tab between subfields, then to the next line, field indicators, subfields ? |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
enter to create a new field? |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
ctrl-sth to create a new subfield ? |
| 13:20 |
|
jaron |
I see. |
| 13:20 |
|
jaron |
right off the top of my head |
| 13:21 |
|
jaron |
my marc editor right now is vim :) |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
really? |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
not binary MARC though |
| 13:21 |
|
jaron |
yeah, I use yaz-marcdump to put it in line format and then convert it back |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 13:22 |
|
jaron |
but I do like vim style home key stuff over emacs ctrl-x stuff, but that's just me |
| 13:23 |
|
jaron |
but I also know that most folks don't get that and wouldn't work for the kind of one mode editor you're dealing with |
| 13:23 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 13:23 |
|
jaron |
is this for that summer of code marc editor? |
| 13:23 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 13:24 |
|
jaron |
are you breaking up subfields or leaving them all in one text box per field? |
| 13:24 |
|
kados |
they're broken up |
| 13:24 |
|
kados |
into delimiter and value |
| 13:24 |
|
kados |
by spans I think |
| 13:25 |
|
jaron |
ah, ok |
| 13:25 |
|
kados |
foxnorth has started working on the keymap |
| 13:25 |
|
jaron |
maybe tab for each subfield--taking you to the content of the subfield and then shift tab to go back through them. |
| 13:25 |
|
kados |
yea, that's what we had in mind |
| 13:26 |
|
kados |
what about when you get to the last one? |
| 13:26 |
|
jaron |
arrow keys to go up and down through fields? |
| 13:26 |
|
kados |
shoudl it go to the next line? |
| 13:26 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 13:26 |
|
jaron |
last tab takes you to the next line |
| 13:26 |
|
kados |
to the field, or indicators? or subfield? |
| 13:27 |
|
kados |
I guess it depends also on wheher it's a new record or you're editing an existing one |
| 13:27 |
|
jaron |
last tab takes you to the next field first subfield |
| 13:27 |
|
jaron |
that definitely matters. I guess I'm thinking editing existing mostly. |
| 13:27 |
|
jaron |
not much original cataloging going on these days |
| 13:27 |
|
kados |
new record should make a new field delimiter I suppose |
| 13:27 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 13:28 |
|
kados |
and what about the 'enter' key? |
| 13:28 |
|
kados |
do you know if there's a convention for that in marc editors? |
| 13:28 |
|
jaron |
that could behave in two ways |
| 13:29 |
|
jaron |
the way I've seen in the ils I use now it doesn't go to the next field but it keeps hightlight on the current field but disables editing |
| 13:29 |
|
jaron |
of the current fields |
| 13:29 |
|
jaron |
s/fields/field |
| 13:30 |
|
jaron |
I'd think it would go to the next fields |
| 13:30 |
|
jaron |
argh s/fields/field/ |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
right |
| 13:30 |
|
jaron |
you'd probably want a ctrl-x type or F3 type thing to create new fields |
| 13:31 |
|
jaron |
that's how what I have to use now does |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
yea, that's in the works too ... new field, new subfield, delete field, delete subfield |
| 13:31 |
|
jaron |
and it'd be best if there were defaults but they can be configured |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
yea, there's gonna be a config keymap section |
| 13:35 |
|
jaron |
in what I use now tab goes from field to indicators to subfields. subfield box is just a plain textbox without any movement through the subfields other than regular editing functions like word by word. and enter and shift-enter go up and down through the subfield boxes. |
| 13:36 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 13:36 |
|
kados |
so does it let you create subfield delimitors that have more than one character ($aaaa) |
| 13:36 |
|
jaron |
ctrl-insert and ctrl-delete operate on a whole field--deleting the field, indicators and subfeilds |
| 13:36 |
|
jaron |
it is completely freeform textbox. |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
wow, interesting |
| 13:37 |
|
jaron |
never tried that though. might send back and error. |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
what system is this? |
| 13:37 |
|
jaron |
unicorn |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
and how do you distinguish between subfield delimiter and value? |
| 13:37 |
|
jaron |
pretty recent version |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
a space? |
| 13:38 |
|
jaron |
|a is never entered. it's assumed that the first text is subfield a |
| 13:38 |
|
jaron |
there are no spaces |aThe Hobbit |
| 13:38 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 13:38 |
|
jaron |
makes it difficult to read on some lines |
| 13:38 |
|
kados |
shoot, phone ... brb |
| 13:44 |
|
jaron |
no prob. btw, I'm not in front of my workstation right now, so this is all from memory :) You should probably catch me one weekday while I'm at work. |
| 13:46 |
|
jaron |
family's up--gotta go |
| 19:51 |
|
thd |
kados: ping |
