| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 16:34 |
|
slef |
hi saorge |
| 17:07 |
|
hm |
hi... was just wondering whether someone knows of a vmware image with koha 2.2.9 pre-installed ?\ |
| 17:08 |
|
owen |
hm, I thought I just saw something on the mailing list about that... |
| 17:10 |
|
owen |
http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ |
| 17:12 |
|
hm |
:) i c ... i was actually wondering if anyone wanted mine of koha 2.2.9 on centos 4.4 vmware ... na way since it already exists one theres no need for mine! |
| 17:21 |
|
martinmorris |
evening all got a quick newbie question :) |
| 17:21 |
|
martinmorris |
i want the call number for a book to always be the UDC number i put in (because that's how the library works) |
| 17:21 |
|
martinmorris |
is the way to do that easy and am I being thick in not finding it? |
| 17:24 |
|
jaron |
there are a couple of different places for call numbers that koha uses |
| 17:24 |
|
jaron |
the 942 is in the bib record |
| 17:24 |
|
martinmorris |
i've been trying the iteamcallnumber field in the system preferences |
| 17:25 |
|
martinmorris |
tried putting in both 080a and 080$a |
| 17:25 |
|
jaron |
all your item stuff probably needs to be in the same field |
| 17:25 |
|
martinmorris |
how do you mean? |
| 17:26 |
|
jaron |
i think all the item level information should be mapped to a single field (952) |
| 17:27 |
|
martinmorris |
ok, i'm wondering how to do that |
| 17:27 |
|
jaron |
two ways you can go about that |
| 17:27 |
|
martinmorris |
right... |
| 17:27 |
|
jaron |
either in your MARC framework |
| 17:28 |
|
jaron |
or, erm, that other place I can't think of right now :) |
| 17:28 |
|
jaron |
I'm not at my Koha machine |
| 17:28 |
|
slef |
martinmorris: btw, will your library be on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers soon? |
| 17:28 |
|
martinmorris |
hehe fair enough |
| 17:29 |
|
martinmorris |
yes it will slef - but i've a fair bit of cataloguing to do first! and some learning too |
| 17:29 |
|
martinmorris |
and the honorary librarian will need some help getting used to it too |
| 17:30 |
|
martinmorris |
anyway, 942 only seems to offer dewey or LCC |
| 17:30 |
|
jaron |
right |
| 17:30 |
|
jaron |
look in 952 |
| 17:31 |
|
jaron |
there are several call number fields mapped to there by default |
| 17:31 |
|
martinmorris |
and library school didn't cover the depths of every marc tag :) |
| 17:31 |
|
martinmorris |
ah, that's better |
| 17:31 |
|
jaron |
well, the 9XX are local use fields so you wouldn't have covered those much ;) |
| 17:32 |
|
martinmorris |
fair enough :) |
| 17:32 |
|
martinmorris |
so something in 952 will be mapped to my UDC classification? |
| 17:33 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm seeing it's got the barcode and holding branch |
| 17:33 |
|
jaron |
something in your 952 will be mapped to a Koha table--think of it as mapped to a variable |
| 17:33 |
|
jaron |
something like itemcallnumber |
| 17:34 |
|
martinmorris |
ok let me take a llok |
| 17:34 |
|
martinmorris |
look |
| 17:34 |
|
jaron |
I think you'll have to move your call number down to the 952 into the correct subfield |
| 17:36 |
|
jaron |
or have the biblio call number mapped to your UDC classification and use the biblio call number in appropriately your templates |
| 17:37 |
|
jaron |
s/in appropriately/appropriately in/ |
| 17:37 |
|
jaron |
what I do is run my records through a script that moves the dewey call number down to the proper 952 fields |
| 17:38 |
|
martinmorris |
two secs |
| 17:39 |
|
jaron |
martinmorris: if you have records in Koha and then you change the framework you'll want to make sure to rebuildnonmarc before looking at the results |
| 17:39 |
|
jaron |
just ignore me until you read the scrollback :) |
| 17:41 |
|
martinmorris |
sorry jaron trying to get off the phone! :) |
| 17:41 |
|
jaron |
no prob |
| 17:42 |
|
martinmorris |
oh, my koha server has just crashed |
| 17:42 |
|
martinmorris |
rebooting it |
| 17:43 |
|
slef |
ow |
| 17:43 |
|
slef |
that shouldn't happen - what is it? |
| 17:44 |
|
martinmorris |
it's just a little machine i'm using to play with while i build the library's new system |
| 17:44 |
|
jaron |
what distro? |
| 17:44 |
|
slef |
Which distribution? |
| 17:44 |
|
slef |
heh |
| 17:45 |
|
martinmorris |
ubuntu |
| 17:45 |
|
martinmorris |
it's been fine for months |
| 17:45 |
|
slef |
wow... did you see why it crashed? |
| 17:46 |
|
martinmorris |
waiting for it to come back up |
| 17:52 |
|
martinmorris |
looks like i forget it's a dhcp'd ip address :) |
| 17:52 |
|
martinmorris |
i forgot even |
| 17:54 |
|
martinmorris |
yep, it did an address refresh and teh address changed, how silly :) |
| 17:54 |
|
martinmorris |
*blush* |
| 17:59 |
|
martinmorris |
anyway, i see that 952k is mapped to items.itemcallnumber |
| 18:01 |
|
martinmorris |
but that there' snothing in 952k when i view the MARC record |
| 18:01 |
|
jaron |
you'll have to put something in there, right? |
| 18:01 |
|
martinmorris |
do i have to do that manually, i can't just tell it i want teh contents of 080a in there? |
| 18:02 |
|
jaron |
read over the scrollback for my other suggestion |
| 18:02 |
|
martinmorris |
ok |
| 18:09 |
|
martinmorris |
so i think the second option would be better, i definitely want teh UDC number to be on 080a so if i can map the call number to that it would be good |
| 18:10 |
|
jaron |
then map the biblio callnumber or whatever it's called to where your classification number is now |
| 18:10 |
|
martinmorris |
that's the itemcallnumber |
| 18:10 |
|
martinmorris |
i've done that already |
| 18:10 |
|
jaron |
itemcallnumber MUST be mapped to 952 somewhere with the rest of your item information |
| 18:10 |
|
jaron |
AFAIK |
| 18:11 |
|
jaron |
you're looking for a bibliocallnumber |
| 18:11 |
|
jaron |
or something like that |
| 18:11 |
|
martinmorris |
OK, two secs |
| 18:11 |
|
martinmorris |
that's different from itemcallnumber then |
| 18:11 |
|
jaron |
yes |
| 18:11 |
|
jaron |
and is used differently in the templates too |
| 18:11 |
|
martinmorris |
ok having a look |
| 18:12 |
|
jaron |
in other words you can have both a biblio call num and an item call num |
| 18:12 |
|
jaron |
that helps out some libraries with different classification depending on library |
| 18:12 |
|
jaron |
from what I understand |
| 18:12 |
|
jaron |
that is some libraries have branches which will want to use different call numbers |
| 18:13 |
|
martinmorris |
right, that doesn't apply to me but thanks for the explanation |
| 18:15 |
|
martinmorris |
942j is currently mapped to biblioitems.classification |
| 18:15 |
|
jaron |
I think that's the one |
| 18:15 |
|
martinmorris |
so i want to map that to 952k instead? |
| 18:15 |
|
jaron |
change biblioitems.classification to the field where you classification will be |
| 18:15 |
|
dewey |
jaron: that doesn't look right |
| 18:16 |
|
jaron |
be quiet, dewey. |
| 18:16 |
|
dewey |
jaron: what? |
| 18:16 |
|
jaron |
dewey: shush |
| 18:16 |
|
dewey |
jaron: excuse me? |
| 18:17 |
|
martinmorris |
i've stopped for a second... |
| 18:18 |
|
martinmorris |
am i changing biblioitems.classification from 942j to 952k? |
| 18:19 |
|
jaron |
biblioitems.classification to 082a or wherever you classification lives now |
| 18:19 |
|
jaron |
I think that's what you want |
| 18:20 |
|
martinmorris |
080a |
| 18:20 |
|
jaron |
so go to 080a |
| 18:20 |
|
martinmorris |
after which i have to rebuild marc |
| 18:20 |
|
jaron |
yes |
| 18:20 |
|
jaron |
rebuildnonmarc methinks |
| 18:22 |
|
martinmorris |
it's not finding C4/Context.pm |
| 18:22 |
|
martinmorris |
is there an environment variable i need to be setting? |
| 18:22 |
|
jaron |
export PERL5LIB= |
| 18:22 |
|
martinmorris |
ah, of course, thanks! |
| 18:23 |
|
jaron |
for me: export PERL5LIB=/usr/local/koha/intranet/modules |
| 18:24 |
|
martinmorris |
it's doing something :) |
| 18:24 |
|
martinmorris |
*nervous* |
| 18:24 |
|
jaron |
yes, 'something' is not always good :) |
| 18:24 |
|
martinmorris |
hey, it worked :) |
| 18:24 |
|
martinmorris |
thanks, learned something about the guts of koha there - thanks |
| 18:25 |
|
jaron |
sure |
| 18:25 |
|
martinmorris |
now, if i want 952k to automatically be the same as 080a....? |
| 18:26 |
|
martinmorris |
i have to map that too within the marc structure? |
| 18:26 |
|
jaron |
the marc structure can't do that, methinks |
| 18:26 |
|
martinmorris |
right |
| 18:26 |
|
jaron |
a script could though |
| 18:26 |
|
martinmorris |
oh i can do that in the database easily enough |
| 18:26 |
|
jaron |
koha allows for plugins |
| 18:26 |
|
martinmorris |
i just wondered if koha had a native way of doing it |
| 18:37 |
|
slef |
can use perl -I rather than export PERL5LIB for a one-off command |
| 18:38 |
|
jaron |
slef: good to know, thanks |
| 18:53 |
|
owen |
kyle_: are you not seeding that koha vmware image anymore? |
| 19:10 |
|
slef |
and business letters are even more important, if a bit tedious |
| 00:00 |
|
martinmorris |
hello me again, got a problem importing some MARC records i've generated |
| 00:00 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm using the intranet, and getting this message in my koha-error.log |
| 00:01 |
|
martinmorris |
[Wed Jun 27 00:59:49 2007] [error] [client 10.0.0.202] malformed header from script. Bad header=MARCRECORDMARCRECORDMARCRECORD: breeding.pl, referer: http://d |
| 00:01 |
|
martinmorris |
az:8080/cgi-bin/koha/import/breeding.pl |
| 00:01 |
|
martinmorris |
if anybody's there and knows what that means i'd love to know too |
| 00:01 |
|
martinmorris |
the records are generated in USMARC format and i'm select MARC21 at the import screen |
| 00:01 |
|
[K] |
<rangi FreeNode> hmm, you might have to ask that one on the mailing list |
| 00:02 |
|
martinmorris |
i thought so |
| 00:02 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> lots of MARC guru's on there |
| 00:02 |
|
martinmorris |
it's about 5,000 records in one file, that's OK I take it? |
| 00:02 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> yeah ive done 300,000 + |
| 00:02 |
|
martinmorris |
and there's some unicode characters in there too |
| 00:03 |
|
martinmorris |
is there any way i can up the logging level to see more information? |
| 00:03 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> not that im aware of |
| 00:03 |
|
martinmorris |
ok |
| 00:12 |
|
jaron |
martinmorris: are you trying to import into the reservoir? |
| 00:12 |
|
martinmorris |
i believe so, yes |
| 00:13 |
|
jaron |
try the same records with bulkmarcimport.pl and see what you get |
| 00:13 |
|
martinmorris |
ok :) |
| 00:13 |
|
jaron |
is you database utf8? |
| 00:13 |
|
martinmorris |
they import into OpenBiblio fine i notice incidentally |
| 00:13 |
|
martinmorris |
yes it is |
| 00:14 |
|
jaron |
ok, if your leader byte 9 is encoded correctly bulkmarcimport will take care of conversion from marc8 to utf8 |
| 00:14 |
|
jaron |
or at least should :) |
| 00:14 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> they are full records you want straight in the catalogue eh? |
| 00:14 |
|
jaron |
character encoding is a pain |
| 00:14 |
|
martinmorris |
yes they are [k] |
| 00:14 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> not ones you want in the reserviour |
| 00:14 |
|
martinmorris |
the 000 header was automatically created by MARC::Record |
| 00:14 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> cool, just checking |
| 00:15 |
|
jaron |
[k] is a bot |
| 00:15 |
|
martinmorris |
well, ideally i'd like them straight into the ctalogue but i thought i had to go via the reservoir |
| 00:15 |
|
[K] |
<rangiFreeNode> nope bulkmarcimport -> straight in |
| 00:16 |
|
martinmorris |
well a lot of them are working but i'm getting some errors too |
| 00:16 |
|
jaron |
what are the errors? |
| 00:16 |
|
dewey |
the errors are different. It says up-to-date check failed and terminates |
| 00:16 |
|
martinmorris |
here's an example |
| 00:16 |
|
jaron |
ok |
| 00:16 |
|
martinmorris |
looks like it's for certain " style characters that have crept in |
| 00:16 |
|
martinmorris |
Converting record 103 encoding from MARC8 to UTF-8 |
| 00:16 |
|
martinmorris |
no mapping found for [0x80] at position 3 in AC‟197/198� *71 #l -e1b g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/Charset.pm line 210. |
| 00:17 |
|
martinmorris |
yeah, and other unicode characters |
| 00:17 |
|
martinmorris |
here's another |
| 00:17 |
|
martinmorris |
Converting record 160 encoding from MARC8 to UTF-8 |
| 00:17 |
|
martinmorris |
no mapping found for [0x9D] at position 25 in Internacia Katolika UnuiÄ?o Esperantista g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/Charset.pm line 210. |
| 00:18 |
|
martinmorris |
so falling over on the Ä? character |
| 00:18 |
|
jaron |
those are both control characters |
| 00:18 |
|
martinmorris |
you're seeing them as control characters? |
| 00:18 |
|
jaron |
that's what the hex code maps to |
| 00:18 |
|
jaron |
http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]9d&preview=entity |
| 00:19 |
|
martinmorris |
weird |
| 00:19 |
|
martinmorris |
it's seeing the characters wrongly then |
| 00:20 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm far from expert on that kind of thing |
| 00:20 |
|
martinmorris |
that should be g with a circumflex on it |
| 00:20 |
|
jaron |
that's what I'm seeing |
| 00:20 |
|
martinmorris |
good |
| 00:20 |
|
jaron |
could you send me one of those records? |
| 00:21 |
|
jaron |
it's hard to tell without seeing a record |
| 00:21 |
|
jaron |
at least for me :) |
| 00:21 |
|
martinmorris |
they're all in one file (1.5Mb) |
| 00:21 |
|
martinmorris |
want the lot? |
| 00:21 |
|
martinmorris |
or shall i recreate one of them for you? |
| 01:18 |
|
CGI766 |
test |
| 07:23 |
|
toins |
hi #koha |
| 09:44 |
|
martinmorris |
hello got another probably basic question |
| 09:48 |
|
martinmorris |
in the catalogue I've got, i want people who search for one name to be directed to another one |
| 09:48 |
|
martinmorris |
and i'm not sure how to set that up |
| 11:26 |
|
kados |
g'morning #koha |
| 11:41 |
|
paul |
hello kados |
| 11:42 |
|
paul |
i just see : http://liblime.com/products/masterkey |
| 11:42 |
|
paul |
what's masterkey ? |
| 11:43 |
|
paul |
(technically) |
| 11:43 |
|
paul |
because i've got questions about OAI support in Koha, merged /multiple sources searches ... |
| 11:43 |
|
paul |
things that "masterkey" seems to be able to do ! |
| 11:44 |
|
paul |
(+ i've seen yakpac as well : very nice) |
| 11:44 |
|
paul |
(except flash technology, of course) |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
masterkey.indexdata.com |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
masterkey doesn't have OAI support, in fact, it doesn't store any data itself |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
it's a metasearch engine |
| 11:45 |
|
kados |
it just queries other searches and merges the results |
| 11:45 |
|
kados |
we have a customer who will go live with it in about 3 months |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
wow, very impressive demo. |
| 11:48 |
|
kados |
This is the customer: http://www.schlowlibrary.org/ |
| 11:48 |
|
kados |
they have 4 libraries that will use it to search each other's collections |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
yesterday was the last day of the largest library con in the US, ALA |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
many many people were interested in open source ILS :-) |
| 11:49 |
|
paul |
some good business contacts here ? |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
yes, met with some good people |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
so today I have a holiday :-) |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
so what are u doing here ? |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
I'm going to see the capitol and smithsonian, etc :-) |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
ahh, it's still early, so I'm just catching up on email, etc. and saying hi to Paul Poulain of course :-) |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]vvi-0t_TD_l37Bv_g |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
oops |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
www.si.edu/ |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
since they have a two letter URL you know they are rich :-) |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
lol |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
it's the most prominent museum in the US I think |
| 11:52 |
|
paul |
like the louvre in Paris ? |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
similar, yes |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
it was founded by a famous person, James Smithson |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
he donated his wealth to the US to found the Smithsonian Institute |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
(side note: they contacted me recently about Koha, but this visit is unrelated :-)) |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
paul: quick question |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
someone asked me yesterday about serials |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
paul: do any libraries manage more than one subscription for a biblio? |
| 11:56 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
(what if a library has 4 branches, and they order 4 issues of each serial) |
| 11:56 |
|
paul |
they create 1 subscription for each they have |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
ok, i thought so |
| 11:57 |
|
paul |
in head, there is a "branch" filter available, to specify that this subscription is attached to branch X |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 11:57 |
|
paul |
(and if IndependantBranches is ON, then the librarians will see only it's subscriptions) |
| 11:57 |
|
paul |
on the other side, the "note" field appears everywhere |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
so, you can have 2 subscriptins for the same branch, one with "public access" and one with "for reserve" (example) |
| 11:58 |
|
kados |
ahh, cool |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
I think his wife just had a baby |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
so he takes a couple days off :-) |
