| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:18 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 12:18 |
|
kados |
paul around? |
| 12:18 |
|
kados |
or hdl? |
| 12:18 |
|
dewey |
i heard hdl was here |
| 12:18 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 12:19 |
|
kados |
for 2.2.9 I believe |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
morning kados. |
| 12:19 |
|
kados |
g'morning |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
I answered him. |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
Very bad publicity he does indeed. |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
1) not on bugs.koha.org |
| 12:19 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 12:19 |
|
hdl |
2) it is mainly a framework problem imho |
| 12:20 |
|
kados |
could you 'bounce' your reply to the list |
| 12:20 |
|
kados |
so others can see the solution? |
| 12:21 |
|
hdl |
But it is quite surprising to be told that on liblime demo, updating items donot work... Does it ? |
| 12:22 |
|
kados |
wow |
| 12:22 |
|
kados |
if I edit a biblio |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
I edited the biblio title |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
and the title disappeared! |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
maybe someone has messed up the framework |
| 12:24 |
|
kados |
I guess we need to have cron update the framework every day too |
| 12:24 |
|
jaron |
At one point the framework was locked down for demo users. |
| 12:25 |
|
kados |
yea, I'll have to ask ryan about that |
| 12:25 |
|
kados |
hi jaron, what's new? |
| 12:25 |
|
jaron |
Not much. I was going to ask here myself about that fellow's problems. |
| 12:26 |
|
jaron |
I didn't know where to start trying to help him. |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
right |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
thanks for volunteering :-) |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
you can tell him on-list that the problem is caused by incorrectly defined frameworks |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
jaron++ |
| 12:27 |
|
jaron |
This isn't a problem with 2.2.9 per se? |
| 12:27 |
|
jaron |
I haven't upgraded yet myself. |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
no, not a bug at all |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
a miss-configuration |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
One of the bugs Bo reported I've run into myself in 2.2.8. |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
3. When Deleting a book from Koha, the Biblio Subtitle (245b) is not |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
erased from the subtitle database. When new books are added then the |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
subtitles of the other books get all screwed up, Wrong, random subtitles |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
for the books. |
| 12:31 |
|
jaron |
Bugzilla Bug 1346 |
| 12:32 |
|
kados |
hdl: can you confirm that does not happen in 2.2.9? |
| 12:33 |
|
kados |
hdl: if we are getting reports then it is likely a problem and should be fixed asap |
| 12:33 |
|
jaron |
I'm on mysql 5 so that's be my first guess |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
jaron: do you see any errrs in your logs? |
| 12:34 |
|
jaron |
ah, give me a little to check.... |
| 12:34 |
|
jaron |
I'm not on that machine. |
| 12:35 |
|
kados |
paul have you seen this bug report? |
| 12:37 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 12:37 |
|
owen |
Hi kados, what's new? |
| 12:37 |
|
kados |
nuthin much |
| 12:37 |
|
kados |
just having a look at some recent bug reports |
| 12:38 |
|
kados |
it seems there are some pretty serious ones reported in 2.2.8/9 in the last few days |
| 12:38 |
|
owen |
Yeah, I have noticed a bit of complaining on the list |
| 12:42 |
|
jaron |
kados: I check koha-error_log for the days around when I reported that bug and didn't see any errors concerning the phantom subtitle bug. |
| 12:42 |
|
kados |
paul, hdl, do you plan to investigate these bugs and fix them in the 2.2 series? |
| 12:42 |
|
hdl |
which ones ? |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
hdl: see Jaron's post above about subtitles |
| 12:43 |
|
jaron |
hdl: this is one: Bugzilla Bug 1346 |
| 12:44 |
|
jaron |
Please let me know if you need any clarification concerning this bug. I'm the one who reported it. |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
hdl: bugs 1334 - 1346 all look to be un-addressed |
| 12:46 |
|
hdl |
a) is there mysql errors in koha-error log when deleting biblio. |
| 12:46 |
|
jaron |
hdl: no errors in koha-error_log |
| 12:48 |
|
hdl |
b) would you mind sending offending bibliosubtitle record, previous bibnum taht was deleted, and an instance of an other biblio with its biblionumber ? So that we could follow the problem. |
| 12:49 |
|
jaron |
hdl: All trace is gone. I've since dumped all my MARC records and imported them again to completely rebuild the tables. |
| 12:50 |
|
jaron |
hdl: I do not currently have a testing machine to replicate the problem and I'm not willing to do it on production again :) |
| 12:50 |
|
hdl |
I understand |
| 13:14 |
|
hdl |
jaron : problem 1346 should be fixed in CVS. Could you confirm and close ? |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
hdl++ |
| 13:16 |
|
jaron |
hdl: sure. might not be until later that I get a chance. what file(s) changed? |
| 13:16 |
|
kados |
jaron: Biblio.pm |
| 13:16 |
|
jaron |
ok |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
two lines to be added. |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
in OLDdelbiblio |
| 13:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: how about the other report from Bo on 'purchase suggestions' |
| 13:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: have you seen that one? |
| 13:30 |
|
hdl |
not on my configuration. |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
suggestions work ok. |
| 13:38 |
|
kados |
the report specifically is about when you are not logged in |
| 13:54 |
|
rch |
yes, this is the case for us: no error; the suggestion is just ignored. |
| 14:12 |
|
jaron |
hdl, kados: On 2.2.8 I applied hdl's two line patch to Biblio.pm. I imported a record with a subtitle, then deleted it. Before the patch I'd be left with a record for that bib number with just a subtitle, after applying the patch I have a blank bib as it should be. |
| 14:12 |
|
jaron |
Looks like this bug can be closed. |
| 14:12 |
|
jaron |
hdl++ |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
jaron: great, thanks for your help on this |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
hdl++ |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
bbiab |
| 15:39 |
|
paul |
2.2.10 to release asap ? |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
paul: no, there are more bugs to squash |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
Bo has reported some, and others are on bugs.koha.org |
| 15:39 |
|
paul |
ok, waiting a little bit (and leaving for a demo tomorrow, for 2 days) |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
read you later |
| 17:26 |
|
owen |
kados, are you around? |
| 17:27 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:27 |
|
kados |
owen: what's up? |
| 17:28 |
|
owen |
Has Stowe-Munroe talked to you about the downloadable audio books at all? |
| 17:28 |
|
owen |
I'm curious if other Koha libraries are trying to address the same problems we are |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
no, not yet |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
but I know it's a biggie for the academic libraries that are interested |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
they are going to need that overlay module |
| 17:29 |
|
owen |
Module? |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
to allow import and overlay of records |
| 17:29 |
|
owen |
Oh, right. |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
not sure module is the best work, 'feature' is probably better |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
s/work/word/ |
| 17:30 |
|
owen |
The issues don't stop there, for us |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
no? |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
deletions too, eh? |
| 17:31 |
|
owen |
We have to figure out how to work with NetLibrary's authentication scheme, which right now is IP-based. Home users are supposed to log in on NPL's site |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
I thought we had a proxy redirect in place |
| 17:31 |
|
owen |
So how do you catch a click from the OPAC and get the user properly logged-in? |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
a proxy redirect ;-) |
| 17:31 |
|
owen |
:) |
| 17:32 |
|
owen |
If it's circs Lauren wants... :) |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
now traditionally this would be done with ezproxy IIRC |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
did they mention anything about that? |
| 17:32 |
|
owen |
No, but I'm not talking to a tech person |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
if we have an agenda for Thursday that could be on it |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
remember a while ago we had some PHP script or something that was supposed to authenticate users? |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
what ever happened with that? |
| 17:34 |
|
owen |
https://www.athenscounty.lib.o[…]hoice=eaudiobooks |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
so I enter in my card number |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
works like a charm |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
so what's the prob? |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
you need to catch the click from the OPAC |
| 17:35 |
|
owen |
Right. If you've got a record in the catalog for an e-audio book, what does it link to? |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
ok, so coupla ways to do this |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
more than a couple actually |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
probably the most elegent is to have koha regex add the redirect URL to the real URL and have a script somewhere that handles the authentication |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
so you'd have something like: |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
http://myacls.org/authenticate[…].org/audiobook/14 |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
and it would check to make sure the user was logged in |
| 17:39 |
|
owen |
What do you mean by koha regex? Koha is re-writing the URL coming from the MARC record? |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
meant perl regex |
| 17:41 |
|
owen |
I suppose you could build a URL click-handler that worked for all URLs, on which you could add things like pattern match conditions and redirect URLs. It would be a nice way to add click-tracking to Koha's statistics. |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
great idea! |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 17:45 |
|
slef |
hi all |
| 17:45 |
|
slef |
dewey: botsnack? |
| 17:45 |
|
dewey |
thanks slef :) |
| 17:45 |
|
owen |
kados, are other clients of yours wrestling with the issue of how to handle records without items? |
| 17:45 |
|
kados |
not vocally |
| 17:46 |
|
kados |
but I suspect it's a problem for all koha users |
| 17:46 |
|
kados |
the problem with koha users is they don't want to pay for anything ;-) |
| 17:46 |
|
kados |
present company excluded of course ;-) |
| 17:46 |
|
owen |
Lousy skinflints! |
| 17:46 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 17:49 |
|
rch |
hi, slef |
| 17:50 |
|
rch |
i notice there's a virtual shelf OO implementation with your name on it |
| 17:50 |
|
slef |
Someone is hitting me with a shelf? |
| 17:51 |
|
rch |
not the case? |
| 17:51 |
|
rch |
two virt shelf modules, one oo. |
| 17:51 |
|
kados |
owen: the idea you presented wouldn't be very difficult to implement, it's in the order of the xisbn idea |
| 17:51 |
|
kados |
10-15 hours I'd guess |
| 17:51 |
|
rch |
i thought i saw your name in the credits for the oo version. |
| 17:51 |
|
slef |
I'm still slapping my head against the MakeMaker problems. |
| 17:51 |
|
kados |
owen: we can discuss further on Thur if you want |
| 17:52 |
|
slef |
It's possible. I can't remember what I did last week. :-/ |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
makemaker-- |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
make-- |
| 17:52 |
|
owen |
Yeah, I'll be sure to bring it up if we have time. |
| 17:52 |
|
slef |
kados: makes(sic) it very easy to package, though. |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:52 |
|
owen |
Does #koha really have a karma bot? |
| 17:52 |
|
slef |
BTW, did you all see the Anal Tourism Research post on librarian.net? |
| 17:52 |
|
owen |
@karma |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
@karma make |
| 17:52 |
|
slef |
dewey: karma make |
| 17:52 |
|
dewey |
make has karma of -1 |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
guess so |
| 17:53 |
|
slef |
Greetings from the XMPP world, by the way. |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
greetings |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
neat |
| 17:54 |
|
slef |
(which isn't in DNS, at least not yet) |
| 17:54 |
|
owen |
Anal Tourism Research post: http://community.livejournal.c[…]_mofo/489373.html |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 17:58 |
|
slef |
dewey: koha |
| 17:58 |
|
dewey |
somebody said koha was the first open-source ILS or a good free software ILS |
| 17:58 |
|
slef |
dewey: karma koha |
| 17:58 |
|
dewey |
koha has neutral karma |
| 17:58 |
|
slef |
koha++ |
| 17:59 |
|
owen |
yeah, koha++ |
| 18:02 |
|
owen |
kados, does NPL have rapid index-updating now? |
| 18:02 |
|
kados |
no, but they should |
| 18:02 |
|
kados |
my fault |
| 18:03 |
|
owen |
Weird... I just deleted something and it disappeared from search results right away |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
well deleting might be instant |
| 18:08 |
|
slef |
Oops. |
| 18:09 |
|
owen |
kados: have you gotten feedback about an IRC dev meeting? |
| 18:09 |
|
slef |
brb |
| 18:10 |
|
kados |
owen: yep, and scheduling it is on my todo for today |
| 18:11 |
|
kados |
about 6-8 folks responded |
| 18:12 |
|
owen |
show-off ;) |
| 22:09 |
|
Lea |
hi |
| 22:09 |
|
dewey |
hola, Lea |
| 22:09 |
|
Lea |
long time :D |
| 22:09 |
|
Lea |
I kust popped in before going to bed. Any worg on Koha v3 yet? |
| 22:12 |
|
chris |
hi lea |
| 22:12 |
|
Lea |
hi |
| 22:12 |
|
chris |
we are having an irc meeting to talk about that soon, paul is deploying it soon for final(ish) testing |
| 22:13 |
|
Lea |
great stuff |
| 22:13 |
|
Lea |
I'm being asked to do a load of stuff for V2 that may not be necessary |
| 22:13 |
|
chris |
what sort of stuff? |
| 22:13 |
|
Lea |
to do with data migration |
| 22:13 |
|
chris |
ah right |
| 22:13 |
|
Lea |
i think there was also 2 showstoppers for v2: |
| 22:13 |
|
Lea |
1. Short term loans |
| 22:14 |
|
Lea |
2. Holidays |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
ahh holidays are fixed for v2 |
| 22:14 |
|
Lea |
I believe V3 will have these |
| 22:14 |
|
Lea |
? |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
and yes 3 does |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
holidays were just recently backported to v2 |
| 22:14 |
|
Lea |
i would be willing to test 3 if you like |
| 22:14 |
|
Lea |
i have a full time librarian who could test it |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
its all in cvs :-) |
| 22:15 |
|
Lea |
ah ok :D |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
we dont have a nice tarball install package yet, but if you check out the HEAD of cvs, thats 3 |
| 22:15 |
|
Lea |
looks like I might have to do this as well as re-engineering my entire network + servers this summer :( |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
busy summer |
| 22:15 |
|
Lea |
ok, well it's good news |
| 22:15 |
|
Lea |
yeah |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
right I need to go to bed |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
it's really late |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
are you on the devel list? |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
talk in the morning if you're still up :D |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
no I'm not |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
cool :) |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
you might want to lurk on that |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
ok |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
will check it out tomorrow |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 22:16 |
|
Lea |
nn all! |
| 22:16 |
|
chris |
sleep well |
| 09:59 |
|
slef |
oh for a router that is stable |
