| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:29 |
|
kyle |
hey all |
| 13:42 |
|
hdl |
hi kyle |
| 14:49 |
|
rch_ |
hi hdl |
| 14:49 |
|
paul |
hello rch_/ryan |
| 14:50 |
|
rch_ |
hey paul |
| 14:50 |
|
paul |
it's a nightmare to test... |
| 14:50 |
|
paul |
login as B, issue, logout, login as A, reserve, logout, login as A ... |
| 14:51 |
|
paul |
I use 2 differents browsers to help, but that's still a nightmare... |
| 14:53 |
|
rch_ |
http://www.openqa.org/selenium/ |
| 14:53 |
|
rch_ |
never tried it, but looks like more fun than by hand |
| 14:55 |
|
rch_ |
paul: i see hdl committed some bugfixes to serials |
| 14:55 |
|
paul |
right. |
| 14:56 |
|
paul |
BLO bugfix if i don't mind |
| 14:56 |
|
paul |
(at least CRI) |
| 14:57 |
|
rch_ |
yes, we've found some problems with it, and are trying to resolve this week. |
| 15:00 |
|
hdl |
rch_: is this bug fix which cause a problem ? |
| 15:02 |
|
rch_ |
hdl: no. i just wanted to tell you that we're working on it, so we both don't fix bugs in different ways :) |
| 15:02 |
|
hdl |
Ok. |
| 15:02 |
|
rch_ |
i think the katipo commits on it do not abide by 1-1 biblio-biblioitems |
| 15:02 |
|
rch_ |
for the routing module. |
| 15:03 |
|
hdl |
But that bug I fixed is really a huge one. |
| 15:03 |
|
rch_ |
they put the item/issue info at biblioitem level. |
| 15:03 |
|
hdl |
Since when modifying an existing subscription would delete any exisiting serial name in serial table. |
| 15:06 |
|
rch_ |
right- i think the commits changed some functionality without thinking about anyone who was already using serials |
| 15:07 |
|
rch_ |
so we are going to try to sort this out this week, and get rel_2_2 serials working |
| 15:08 |
|
rch_ |
and have a safe upgrade path. |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
rch_: on 2.2.8, there is nothing for serial routing, as it is based on 2.2.7, that did not have it yet. |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
that's one of the reason I didn't wanted to release 2.2.8 from rel_2_2. : I did some tests, and founded some problems with routing & improved subscription management |
| 15:09 |
|
hdl |
paul : unfortunately, on rel_2_2, there are things abour RoutingList. |
| 15:09 |
|
hdl |
Asking sometimes for a routing table. |
| 15:09 |
|
hdl |
+ using claimdate. |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
not on 2.2.8 |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
or i made a mistake somewhere... |
| 15:10 |
|
rch_ |
i have no checked out 2.2.8 |
| 15:11 |
|
paul |
commits since dec, 19 are not in 2.2.8, except for the bugfix ones. |
| 15:11 |
|
paul |
that makes around 100 commits (mainly those of bob, waylon & mason) |
| 15:24 |
|
rch_ |
so we will be looking to fix these problems- |
| 15:25 |
|
rch_ |
I think it may require the added feature of item-level reserves. |
| 15:25 |
|
rch_ |
without which, the serials routing bit just doesn't really work. |
| 15:25 |
|
paul |
wow... that will be a huge stuff... |
| 15:25 |
|
paul |
(i'm afraid) |
| 15:26 |
|
rch_ |
yes- we are committed to heavily testing |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
mmm... /me think you're spending too much time on feature improvement for 2.2 ... |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
(I already told to kados, and I know he disagree with me) |
| 15:28 |
|
rch_ |
yes, i see this - for use, though, we need a fast solution. |
| 15:29 |
|
rch_ |
s/use/us/ |
| 15:29 |
|
rch_ |
so we need the routing to work on rel_2_2 |
| 15:29 |
|
paul |
what kind of routing ? (could you explain what you need functionnaly) |
| 15:30 |
|
rch_ |
the routing module takes a list of users and automatically places a reserve on a new issue of a serial when it arrives. |
| 15:30 |
|
paul |
which is really different of the other routing method i've added to head : |
| 15:31 |
|
paul |
when an issue arrives, print a paper, with the user list, and let's start routing. |
| 15:31 |
|
paul |
in french, it's called "circle routing list" (mine) vs "star routing list" (your's) |
| 15:31 |
|
paul |
mine is from far simple to code ;-) |
| 15:31 |
|
rch_ |
surely :) |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
circle routing list : each user gives the issue to the next "issuer", and in the ILS we don't know where is the item. |
| 15:32 |
|
rch_ |
ah, i see - the circle and the star. |
| 15:32 |
|
rch_ |
yes, we need a star. |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
and having both in koha will be a great +. |
| 15:35 |
|
rch_ |
so it is okay for rel_2_2 RM to add item-level reserves ? |
| 15:40 |
|
rch_ |
we plan to discuss with chris & mason late today a more specific plan - |
| 15:40 |
|
rch_ |
and to coordinate with bob (still at katipo), who did much of the routing commits |
| 15:42 |
|
paul |
rch_: i'm not sure i'm OK to add item-level reserves. but i'm not sure kados will agree if I say no ;-) |
| 15:43 |
|
paul |
however i'm open to speak of this, let me know what/how you intend to do this. |
| 15:44 |
|
rch_ |
okay, i understand your concerns. will discuss late today what we need to do on our end, and present some more ideas tomorrow |
| 15:45 |
|
rch_ |
there may be other ways |
| 15:45 |
|
rch_ |
which are not so scary :) |
| 15:50 |
|
paul |
rch_: a quick question : do you spell transfer or transfert in english ? |
| 15:53 |
|
owen |
transfert is not an English word |
| 15:53 |
|
paul |
hi owen. |
| 15:53 |
|
owen |
hi paul :) |
| 15:53 |
|
paul |
so what word should we use ? |
| 15:54 |
|
owen |
Transfer, I'm assuming. |
| 15:54 |
|
paul |
when you move a book from a branch to another |
| 15:54 |
|
paul |
(because of a reserve for example) |
| 15:55 |
|
paul |
and we have a branchtransfer table in Koha |
| 15:59 |
|
owen |
yes, Transfer is the right word |
| 15:59 |
|
paul |
thanks (in french we spell it transfert) |
| 16:07 |
|
rch_ |
hi cm - did you see all those dev_week commits by mason on calendar? |
| 16:08 |
|
rch_ |
he removed C4::Calendar::Calendar and kept C4::Calendar . |
| 16:38 |
|
hdl |
rch_: paul : does anyone know where rentaldiscount comes from ? |
| 16:39 |
|
hdl |
It is now in issuingrules. |
| 16:39 |
|
hdl |
And I donot know what it is used for. |
| 16:41 |
|
rch_ |
i've never seen it outside the table definition. |
| 16:49 |
|
hdl |
Are there libraries that have a pay for rent ? |
| 16:50 |
|
owen |
hdl, I think some libraries charge for certain types of materials |
| 16:50 |
|
owen |
It's something to ask chris--I suspect it might be something that originated in NZ |
| 16:50 |
|
hdl |
OK. Can there be discounts for some borrower cats? |
| 16:53 |
|
owen |
I would think so |
| 17:35 |
|
cm |
hi rch. yeah, I saw them. |
| 17:36 |
|
cm |
i'll probably apply them at some point. |
| 17:38 |
|
cm |
anybody here know what this zebra error means? |
| 17:38 |
|
cm |
message: error: 224 ES: immediate execution failed |
| 17:39 |
|
cm |
we're trying to get our script that deletes biblios without items attached to work. |
| 17:39 |
|
cm |
they seem to get deleted from the db but some don't get deleted from the zebra index |
| 17:41 |
|
rch_ |
cm check to see if you lost your biblionumber 090 field in biblioitems.marc |
| 17:41 |
|
cm |
ok, I'll check. |
| 17:42 |
|
rch_ |
we were having some problems with this when importing marc8 records. |
| 17:54 |
|
cm |
yeah, there's no 090. |
| 17:54 |
|
cm |
i thought bulkmarcimport was supposed to fix that. |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
rch_: we shuould port the rel_2_2 fix to dev_week asap |
| 17:55 |
|
cm |
can you make it optional to check for duplicate barcodes while you're at it? :D |
| 18:01 |
|
rch_ |
cm: the problem should be fixed as far as new data goes |
| 18:02 |
|
cm |
you mean for 090? |
| 18:02 |
|
rch_ |
but you'll have to run through your existing data and make sure you've got the 090's |
| 18:02 |
|
cm |
yeah, i was just looking into that. |
| 18:02 |
|
rch_ |
yes- recent commits to breeding.pm |
| 18:02 |
|
cm |
ok. |
| 18:02 |
|
rch_ |
and z3950 search.pl |
| 18:02 |
|
rch_ |
should fix on import. |
| 18:03 |
|
rch_ |
basically just run through all your biblios and add an 090 if it's missing. |
| 18:04 |
|
cm |
i need to clean out our db and do another test upload again anyway. |
| 18:04 |
|
cm |
we've finally set an official migration date--May 21! |
| 18:05 |
|
cm |
there's a script to patch missing 090's, isn't there? i thought i remembered seeing it. |
| 18:06 |
|
rch_ |
yes, i think so. you can also just add a line to update_items. |
| 18:07 |
|
cm |
ok. |
| 18:11 |
|
cm |
actually, on second look, the data for 090c seems to be there. |
| 18:12 |
|
cm |
took me a while to realized what i was looking for. |
| 18:12 |
|
cm |
s/realize/realized |
| 18:20 |
|
cm |
kyle, are you around? |
| 18:20 |
|
kyle |
yeah |
| 18:20 |
|
cm |
i think the scrub script might be choking on the records with duplicate barcodes. |
| 18:21 |
|
cm |
i have an example up in my office if you want to see. |
| 18:21 |
|
kyle |
ok |
| 18:46 |
|
owen |
Lookin' for rch_ or kados |
| 19:01 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 19:01 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 19:02 |
|
owen |
Did you see the message to the Koha list a few days ago about reserve fees? |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
ahh, I see |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
the $1.00 charge error |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
I remember that one, I thought it was fixed in 2.2.8 |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 19:03 |
|
paul |
hi aka |
| 19:03 |
|
paul |
hi kados |
| 19:03 |
|
owen |
Yeah... I remember we worked on it in dev_week. I'm thinking it didn't get fixed in rel_2_2 ? |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
ahh, could be |
| 19:07 |
|
owen |
kados: I'm wondering if you could check this out in short order or should I email the sender about trying to fix it based on the changes in dev_week? |
| 19:07 |
|
kados |
owen: sure, I'd be happy to |
| 19:07 |
|
owen |
Thanks kados |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
I'll try to resolve it today |
| 19:21 |
|
rch_ |
paul_: are you still up? |
| 19:21 |
|
paul_ |
yep |
| 19:21 |
|
paul_ |
even if my connection seems tired... |
| 19:22 |
|
rch_ |
so item-level reserves in rel 3 ... |
| 19:22 |
|
rch_ |
work for available items, |
| 19:22 |
|
rch_ |
can you reserve an item that is on loan now? |
| 19:23 |
|
paul |
mmm... yes, of course |
| 19:23 |
|
paul |
in fact, you must consider 2 cases : |
| 19:23 |
|
paul |
- there is 1 available item & X unavailable |
| 19:23 |
|
paul |
- all items are unavailable |
| 19:25 |
|
rch_ |
so for biblio A, if item 1 is available, and items 2,3,4 are on issue, |
| 19:25 |
|
rch_ |
i want to reserve item 4. |
| 19:25 |
|
rch_ |
is this possible? |
| 19:25 |
|
paul |
you should be able to do it. |
| 19:54 |
|
slef |
chris: "non-ajax commenting is disabled" says your blog. Would you *please* put that on a page that I see before I waste my time typing a comment? |
| 19:54 |
|
slef |
hi all ;-) |
| 19:59 |
|
slef |
bbi60+ |
| 20:58 |
|
slef |
quiet today |
| 09:42 |
|
slef |
hi rach |
