| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 20:09 |
|
cori |
Hi, I need help with installing Koha |
| 20:12 |
|
cori |
we ran the perl install script, and set everything up, but we don't know where to put koha files |
| 20:12 |
|
cori |
was that supposed to be automatically handled by the install.pl script? |
| 20:12 |
|
mason |
hiya cori, u on a windows or linux box? |
| 20:12 |
|
cori |
ubuntu |
| 20:13 |
|
cori |
edgy eft |
| 20:13 |
|
mason |
cool, try /usr/local/koha |
| 20:14 |
|
mason |
install.pl should have installed koha to that dir |
| 20:14 |
|
cori |
should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder? |
| 20:15 |
|
mason |
you downloaded the koha-2.2.7.tar file ? |
| 20:15 |
|
cori |
yes |
| 20:15 |
|
cori |
we ran the install.pl script, and it is reporting back as installed |
| 20:16 |
|
mason |
cool |
| 20:16 |
|
mason |
so , have u got a /usr/local/koha dir now? |
| 20:17 |
|
cori |
yes, I'll try running it now |
| 20:17 |
|
mason |
ah, answer to your 'should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder?' question is no |
| 20:18 |
|
cori |
yeah, I get this error from a web browser: The requested URL /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl was not found on this server |
| 20:19 |
|
mason |
right, you might need to do a little apache configing to set that up |
| 20:20 |
|
mason |
hmm, i guess edgy is running apache2 |
| 20:20 |
|
cori |
yes, what is the apache configuration that we need to do |
| 20:20 |
|
cori |
we put Include /etc/koha-httpd.conf into the apache2.conf |
| 20:21 |
|
mason |
let me just check... |
| 20:21 |
|
cori |
is koha not compatible with apache2? |
| 20:21 |
|
mason |
yes, it is |
| 20:24 |
|
cori |
it looks like my koha conf files all refer to /usr/local/koha but my apache server files use /var/www |
| 20:24 |
|
cori |
do I need to change any settings in apache? |
| 20:25 |
|
mason |
weve got a koha running with apache2 here |
| 20:25 |
|
cori |
yes |
| 20:26 |
|
mason |
looks like the /etc/koha-http.conf file is moved into /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 20:28 |
|
cori |
what should the default intranet url be for my koha server? ... what is the "index.html"? |
| 20:28 |
|
mason |
and a symlink is made from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha-http.conf to ./etc/apache2/sites-available/koha-http.conf |
| 20:29 |
|
kados |
cori: did you run the installer? |
| 20:29 |
|
cori |
yes |
| 20:30 |
|
mason |
ah, the installer asks you for the default koha and opac urls... |
| 20:30 |
|
kados |
so just make sure there's a line in your apache.conf file |
| 20:30 |
|
kados |
something like: |
| 20:31 |
|
kados |
Include /usr/lib/koha/etc/koha-http.conf |
| 20:31 |
|
kados |
and then edit that file as needed for your local config |
| 20:31 |
|
mason |
look for a line like |
| 20:31 |
|
mason |
# KOHA's INTRANET Configuration |
| 20:31 |
|
mason |
<VirtualHost koha.koha.hostname.com:81> |
| 20:35 |
|
mason |
thanks josh :) |
| 20:35 |
|
cori |
I see it, |
| 20:35 |
|
cori |
thanks |
| 20:37 |
|
mason |
you might need to add your new <VirtualHost> name to your dns or hosts file too |
| 20:37 |
|
mason |
if its not getting resolved properly... |
| 20:41 |
|
cori |
it looks correct |
| 20:42 |
|
mason |
great |
| 20:43 |
|
cori |
except it's not working |
| 20:45 |
|
cori |
is there a highly recommended lamp configuration for koha that's publicly available, that involves minimal post install adjustments? |
| 20:46 |
|
cori |
a koha install that could work out of the box? |
| 20:46 |
|
kados |
cori: some knowledge of apache, mysql and linux is a requirement for running a complex tool like Koha |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
cori: otherwise, there are hosted solutions managed by koha companies |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
cori: http://liblime.com/products/ko[…]ha-classic-hosted |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
for instance :-) |
| 20:48 |
|
cori |
I had heard about Libime |
| 20:48 |
|
cori |
I think someone called you Josh, if you're the same Josh at Liblime |
| 20:48 |
|
kados |
yep, that's me |
| 20:51 |
|
cori |
I'm interested, I'll be in touch. thank you all. |
| 21:30 |
|
thd-home |
kados: are you still there? |
| 21:30 |
|
kados |
thd-home: my flight was delayed |
| 21:30 |
|
kados |
thd-home: it leaves at 8:00 now :/ |
| 21:30 |
|
kados |
(they keep pushing it back) |
| 21:31 |
|
thd-home |
kados: the Marriot La Guardia hotel is at the airport itself or across a street from the airport. |
| 21:32 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 21:33 |
|
thd-home |
kados: are you returning Wednesday? |
| 21:34 |
|
kados |
yes, wednesday evening |
| 21:35 |
|
kados |
and a meeting back in athens on thursday :( |
| 21:35 |
|
kados |
busy week |
| 21:36 |
|
thd-home |
kados: I will be in Westchester county on Wednesday so it would have to be tomorrow if we were going to meet. |
| 21:36 |
|
thd-home |
or tonight :) |
| 21:38 |
|
kados |
thd-home: I was just thinking that I might need to meet up with randy tonight to go over the strategy for tomorrow |
| 21:38 |
|
kados |
thd-home: what time tomorrow are you avaialble? |
| 21:39 |
|
thd-home |
I have no specific plans for tomorrow so I should be available most any time. |
| 21:40 |
|
thd-home |
The airport is about an hour and a half from lower ( the southern part) Manhattan by city bus and subway |
| 21:41 |
|
thd-home |
kados: other forms of transport are faster but cost real money. |
| 21:41 |
|
kados |
right |
| 21:42 |
|
kados |
ok, well I'll find out my schedule from randy and get back to you on a time |
| 21:43 |
|
thd-home |
kados: I understand why you asked about LC possibly discontinuing MARC support now |
| 21:43 |
|
kados |
did you see the recent minutes from the first meeting? |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
LCWGMinutes110306 |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
here's an interesting blurb: |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
"A particularly salient issue is how, and to what extent, |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
libraries can fit with the world of search engines. She believes that libraries exist to connect |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
people with content; therefore the challenge for libraries is how to make the library experience |
| 21:44 |
|
thd-home |
kados: I think it just means that some of the documentation was being maintained by someone who may have retired and not replaced. |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
easier for users and how to serve users more directly. A wide range of library literature makes it |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
clear that users consider library catalogs antiquated and not very user-friendly. She had found |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
that LC catalogers, when asked to face this reality, tended to have two responses: first, |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
agreement that users have difficulty using the catalog; and second, that the catalog is actually |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
better than most users realize, if only librarians would educate users. |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
of the roughly 132 million items in the Library of Congress collections, |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
probably no more than 15 million are represented by bibliographic records in the LC Online |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
Catalog. |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
Dr. Marcum recalled that at the recent Digital Library Federation meeting, Judith Nadler |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
had said that we should not try to fix existing systems; rather, we should try to pretend that we |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
had just arrived on Earth from Mars, so that we could consider how we would create systems of |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
bibliographic access if we were unencumbered by the past. |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
that sounds to me like they want to replace marc |
| 21:47 |
|
thd-home |
kados: I think the real problem is that the OPAC, and I mean none of them is anywhere near what it could be as a tool which guides users to finding what they are seeking. |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 21:49 |
|
thd-home |
kados: Judith Nadler wants a scorched earth policy to library systems design. |
| 21:50 |
|
kados |
wow, their action items are daft |
| 21:50 |
|
kados |
not a single one will result in anything |
| 21:51 |
|
kados |
loc-- |
| 21:51 |
|
thd-home |
kados: we could certainly do a better job starting from nothing but no one has the funding to do that job of building a new elegant system. |
| 21:52 |
|
kados |
yea :( |
| 21:52 |
|
kados |
maybe some day :-) |
| 21:53 |
|
thd-home |
kados: there is the danger that the future of bibliographic control committee is just some pretence of consultation so it would not matter that the committee accomplished nothing. |
| 21:55 |
|
thd-home |
kados: LC management could simply use it as something to point to when they go ahead with their own plan. |
| 21:58 |
|
thd-home |
kados: LC was only doing about a third of the work for series authority control so, while the impact is bad where that matters it is not catastrophic for series authorities. |
| 21:58 |
|
thd-home |
s/catastrophic/fatal/ # it is catastrophic for series authorities |
| 22:00 |
|
kados |
thd-home: talk to you soon |
| 22:00 |
|
thd-home |
pleasant flying |
| 10:20 |
|
toins |
hi all |
